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Speaker 2: been the best Thursday night football game I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Thirty six thirty Kirk Cousins, Oh my God, five hundred

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Speaker 2: plus yards for kirk Cousins. Was it four touchdown passes?

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Speaker 2: Baker had what three touchdown passes? It's just a flurry.

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Speaker 2: I lost count. Jeez, what a night. I mean this,

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Speaker 2: thirty six thirty Yeah, Baker nineteen and twenty four three touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Listen to these numbers for kirk Cousins forty two of

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Speaker 2: fifty eight, four touchdowns, five hundred and nine yards. Colin,

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Lena paid Kirk Cousins and drafted

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Speaker 1: It should be fired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, having two quarterbacks. It's terrible thing in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Just terrible. So first of all that that game was crazy.

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Speaker 2: October has arrived and SOA's offense. I mean, this just

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Speaker 2: shows you how close this league is. So Atlanta. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, they get Darnell Mooney drops that ball six

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Speaker 2: open Darnell Mooney. But Raheem Morris, like good coaches, kept

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Speaker 2: his timeouts. They were able to stop tamp on that drive.

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Speaker 2: Time out, time out, time out, get it back ball

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Speaker 2: is what Captain Kirk does. He's a professional quarterback in

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Speaker 2: this and this shows you. We talked about this on

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Speaker 2: FS one today. The middle class quarterbacks. You know, your

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Speaker 2: into Look at all these middle class quarterbacks. Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 2: the higher end of that, but you don't pay him

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Speaker 2: a fortune. They make good money. Kirk makes good money.

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Speaker 2: But look at all the quarterbacks that don't make the

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Speaker 2: biggest money. Kirk Cousins a lot of weapons, Baker Godwin,

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans, Gino Darnold. You notice that if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: don't pay him Dak money, look at the weapons. Dak's

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Speaker 2: a B plus quarterback, A minus, you pay him big money.

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Speaker 2: They got one receiver, okay, and they can't They probably

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Speaker 2: gonna afford Devonte Adams, but they have the worst running

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Speaker 2: So if you're gonna pay a quarterback the Mahomes money,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen Lamar, I'm for it, but that's why Kansas

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Speaker 2: City never has a fully formed wide receiver group. But

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Speaker 2: that game tonight's just a I mean, I got notes here.

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Speaker 2: I've been watching it for hours and I'm sitting here

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Speaker 2: and forget my notes. It was just a great wild

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Speaker 2: It's funny about Baker Mayfield. We talked about this today

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Speaker 2: al Michaels said to Night or Kirk Krbstreet said tonight

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Speaker 2: But this is what's crazy about it. So the New

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Speaker 2: it on a piece of paper right now. The Phillies

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Speaker 4: with the guy playing the fourth game of his career

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Speaker 4: who has a little hero ball syndrome to him. Yes,

428
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Speaker 4: so when you're asking him to do it a lot,

429
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 4: it's gonna get a.

430
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Speaker 5: Little out of whack.

431
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Speaker 2: Well, and the interesting thing, the tricky thing for Chicago is,

432
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Speaker 2: and you saw it again today, eber Flues's defense situational.

433
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: He's pretty good. Matt knows what he's doing on that

434
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Speaker 2: side of the ball. Now, Cliff Kingsbury obviously knows what

435
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: he's doing on the offensive side of the ball. You're

436
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: watching right now a masterclass. But a lot of these

437
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: guys who are the great. Some guys are vice president,

438
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: some guys are CEOs. Clearly eber Fluce knows defense because

439
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: you have to. They don't give you a lot of freebies.

440
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: The Rams today again they had didn't have Cooper Puka,

441
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: so it makes it really difficult. But when I watch

442
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: Chicago today, I guess the word I would use is

443
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: the one you used formula. I'm like, oh, yeah, this

444
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: will work. They played even when they led, it was

445
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: just the off. It's just amazing. What a decent it doesn't.

446
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: You don't have to rush for two hundred yards one

447
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty. Just Swift popped about five runs several catches,

448
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 2: and it just that's the formula. I still think this

449
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: is going to be a seven win team, but John,

450
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 2: it will feel better than last year's seven win team.

451
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: You'll look at it and go, oh, he didn't have

452
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: Keenan for a bunch of games. The defense is excellent.

453
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: It feels when I watch Caleb play and justin fields,

454
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: I feel sometimes justin fields is it's he's lost. Caleb's

455
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: wildly talented, he just sometimes misses easy throws. But I

456
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: kind of I feel like today a couple of times

457
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: his expression doesn't change, he doesn't get down. There was

458
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: a couple of the clocks winding down. I just felt,

459
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Speaker 2: justin I just felt Caleb felt under control today.

460
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely was less frenetic than the last couple

461
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: of weeks. And that's where Jayden has really thrived. You're like,

462
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 4: does this guy even get is he unflappable? But one

463
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 4: thing that you just mentioned he's got going for him,

464
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: and they've been hammered all year is Brian Robinson, the

465
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 4: running back from Texas is a really good player, hand

466
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 4: the ball off to him, and that just calms everyone down,

467
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: and the Bears were not able to run the ball.

468
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 4: I think the problem though, big picture, if the Bears

469
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 4: only end up with seven or eight, you know, you

470
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 4: just got coaching flux, then you got new coordinators, and

471
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 4: then you got more movement. I mean, that's just always

472
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: an issue whenever we talk about young quarterbacks and just

473
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Speaker 4: young teams in general, because they do have a lot

474
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Speaker 4: of talents. But if you couldn't win this game, Colin

475
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 4: the Rams, you know, understaffed coming off a big win,

476
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: so you know they can inhale a little bit that

477
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Speaker 4: ten am kickoff for a West Coast team long trip.

478
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Speaker 1: This was.

479
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Speaker 4: If you're not winning this game, you're probably instead of

480
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: heading for seven or eight, might be heading for five

481
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: or six. So this was a big game for Chicago

482
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Speaker 4: at home. Quiet the crowd a little bit because the

483
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: fans are like, what the hell's going on here? Partly

484
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: because the expectations were so high. That's why think about

485
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: with Jayden Daniels, both of them, I mean, these guys

486
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: went one too. Both of them won the last two Heismans.

487
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: But the expectations for Jaden weren't nearly as high as

488
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: Caleb just because of the Avalanche hype. Really over the

489
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: course of his college career from three years ago when

490
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 4: he came in for Spencer Rattler in a Kansas game

491
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 4: and ripped the ball out of the guy's hands, and

492
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 4: you watch Jayden Daniels and you go, I don't know

493
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Speaker 4: how you could look much better, just in terms of calm, poise,

494
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: deep ball accuracy, accuracy across the field, just zero freak

495
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: out whenever there's a rush, throwing guys open, like to

496
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 4: me right now, and it's not apples to apples. They're

497
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: playing on different teams. His offensive coordinators clearly better. They

498
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 4: sculpted an offense around him that just fits. He's in

499
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 4: the shotgun. But Kingsbury's added more physical run game by

500
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Speaker 4: Adam Anthony Lynn, who they stole from the Niners, who's

501
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: kind of an old school running back guy, and it's

502
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: just working. And I don't know how many games how

503
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: good their defense is. Ultimately, the Cardinals might just suck,

504
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: but just if you just watch him independent of everything,

505
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: you go, holy shit, this guy's this guy's got a

506
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: lot going for him.

507
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: My surprise team in the NFL was Washington. I didn't

508
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: look very smart after they got trounced by Tampa, but

509
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: it looks good now. So it's really I was talking

510
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: to Steve Kaim I had dinner with him the other night,

511
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: and you know, people forget Kime two time executive year.

512
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: He had a really tough owner to deal with, and

513
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: Kyler was very difficult. Kyler just doesn't watch enough film

514
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: and it's been an issue. I've supported him, but it's an issue.

515
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: But I was talking to him about Cliff and he said, listen,

516
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: he said, Cliff now has tried head coaching twice. It

517
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: hasn't worked, he says, But when you sit down with

518
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: him and interview him, the reason he got head coaching jobs.

519
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: He's really a brilliant guy. He's not he's not a disciplinarian.

520
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: Things got a little loose, right like like it would

521
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: get loose. But Kim told me when he went to Washington,

522
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: he goes that Jade and Daniels Kid could not literally

523
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: get a better guy. First of all, he's not a

524
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: yellowness screamer. He's a teacher. He's fun. He likes to

525
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: make it fun. He gives you he watches what you

526
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: do manufactures an offense based solely on what you do.

527
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: And because Jaden moved, Cliff was banging on the table

528
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: for this guy. He's like, guys, I don't want to

529
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: hear about J. J. McCarthy. This is the guy. This

530
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: is the guy. So he went all in on this.

531
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: Adam Peters the new GM dan Quinn they listen to.

532
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: Cliff.

533
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Cliff was like, this is it, and it's just this

534
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: is very true. Brian Flores is the best defensive coordinator

535
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: in football. His personality got in the way of his

536
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: coaching as a head coach. Cliff's personality the opposite of Flora's.

537
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: It's not intense, he doesn't bark, he doesn't discipline. Cliff's

538
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: the opposite. So Floraes in Kingsbury are the antithesis of

539
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: each other. But in both instances, one guy is too

540
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: intense or was, and one guy doesn't want to manage

541
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: and discipline and you have.

542
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: To do some of it.

543
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Flores and Kingsbury are a plus plus plus

544
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: at what they do and that we see this all

545
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: over the world. Some guys are just salesmen. Some guys

546
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: can be the president but couldn't sell anything. It's just

547
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: the way the world works. When I watch that offense today.

548
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

549
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing an offense they're not fooling people.

550
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: What they're basically doing is they're getting they're winning the

551
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: math game. They just looked like, I mean, these runs, John,

552
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: these running backs aren't having to create anything off contact.

553
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: They're getting four and five yard runs before anybody initiates contact.

554
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: It just it just looks so easy. Maybe I'm waiting

555
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: for them to struggle and get into a fistfight, but

556
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: it's like they're just it's just up down seven on seven.

557
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 4: I've been saying this for a long time. The best

558
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: part about the NFL. In most industries, you know, people

559
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: fight and claw in the private sector in different operations

560
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: to try to sit at the head of the table

561
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: because it's so much more lucrative than a lot of

562
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: different management spots. But in football, the number two spot,

563
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: whether you're the offensive or defensive coordinator, especially on a

564
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: team where the head coach is the opposite, pays you

565
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: like two to five million dollars and you have no

566
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: responsibility when someone gets injured, when someone gets DUI, when

567
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: who knows what happens, which we've all followed the NFL

568
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: long enough. Literally everything happens eight year problem. You're still

569
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 4: getting paid three million dollars and it's got to be

570
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: one of the best jobs in It's still you spend

571
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: a lot of time. It's a lot of work, but

572
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: in terms of the amount of money you're getting paid.

573
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 4: And then when you're great like Flores or Kingsbury whoever

574
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: the best coordinate Steve Spagnola and none of the responsibilities

575
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: on you and you basically in those guys individual spots,

576
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: they kind of get to be the head coach of

577
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: their group. Right, Kevin O'Connell's not telling Flores what to do,

578
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: dan Quin's telling King's. It's an incredible gig. Now there

579
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: is I understand there's a big difference between three million

580
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: dollars and fourteen million dollars or ten million dollars. But

581
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 4: some of these guys, especially once they've tried it, like

582
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: you could do this for a long period of time

583
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: and just become a legend doing this, Like where is

584
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: Cliff I would imagine maybe not the NFL, but like

585
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: over the next couple of years, colleges are gonna call

586
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: him again.

587
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And they pay a lot.

588
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: I think forty guys make over four million dollars. I mean,

589
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: you make a lot of money and you don't have

590
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: to answer to anybody hard to get a better gig

591
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: than that that he's got going right now, right in

592
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: why And I'd say same thing for Flores. I do

593
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: think Flores is gonna battle. You know, like you said,

594
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: did you see the viral clip of Kyle lighting into

595
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: Brandon Ayuk for wearing the wrong shorts? It came out,

596
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: It came out on Friday. Brandon, you came to practice

597
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: with the wrong shorts, you know, in the regular season only,

598
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 4: like the press is only allowed there out there for

599
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes, so it's the only time they were out there,

600
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: and Kyle went up to him and lit him up.

601
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 4: I mean it was kind of embarrassing for Ayuk, Like

602
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: there's a dress code. He has the different shorts than

603
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: literally the entire team, and that's type stuff. You know.

604
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: Some coaches, like one thing I heard about Cliff is like,

605
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: oh just let that fly, let that go, and you

606
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: can't like that ain't flying, and Kyle's not you know,

607
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: Belichick here, But it's hard being like that's on you

608
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: as a head coach.

609
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: Little things like the wrong socks.

610
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: Right, And I think Flora is dealing with the quarterback

611
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: because that is kind of like the heartbeat of the

612
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: organization is not really going to be anything. He's going

613
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: to be able to answer as a coordinator. But eventually,

614
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: if you're that good, you know someone's going to give

615
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: him another because he's he's not good. I mean right now,

616
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: he's elite. Like you said, yes, defense more than offense too.

617
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: It's usually about like you got to have the Jimmy's

618
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: and the Joe's and who do they got? Harrison Smith's

619
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: like my age, I mean, who who what are they?

620
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: John Randall's not on the defensive line. What are they

621
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: rolling out there in Minnesota? So it's those two guys

622
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 4: right now. You're talking coordinators of the year through four weeks.

623
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Speaker 4: So I mean it's Brian Floras and Cliff Kingsbury kicking everybody's.

624
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: I feel like every Kansas City game now looks the same.

625
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Everyone is that you know they'll they'll fall in a

626
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: hole or you'll watch them early and you're thinking, this

627
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: isn't the Sunday They just they're they're just not and

628
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: then Rashee Rice gets hurt very early and I'm like,

629
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: they're on the road, they're out of sync. Chargers had

630
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: multiple sacks and then they just and I think so

631
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: much of this is Andy Reid inspects they just slowed

632
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: the game down. They're really good at killing momentum. Mahomes

633
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: had a couple of big runs. He had a couple

634
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: of beautiful passes. Kelsey was more visible today and available. Obviously,

635
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 2: with Rahee Rice out, Travis Kelcey becomes more available. But

636
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: there is something about Kansas City is that we tend

637
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: to love flash like Darnold's numbers, and I like, I

638
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: like Kansas City, But I ask you, if they played

639
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: Minnesota tomorrow, I would take Kansas City. What are we

640
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: supposed to make of this team that isn't pretty? Every

641
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 2: single game is close. It doesn't matter who the opponent is.

642
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: They don't start necessarily well, they always end great. Do

643
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: you worry at all that Kansas City's sort of following

644
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: in this it's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. It's

645
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: they're just winning the same way and they're not playing

646
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: particularly well for long periods of time.

647
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like Spags and Andy are just like,

648
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: you know, you fill up refrigerator and they're making meal

649
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: after meal and every time they're using different ingredients. You're like,

650
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: how are you doing this? Eventually, if you don't go

651
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 4: to the store, you're going to run out stuff to

652
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 4: make food with. And today after Mahomes, it's through a

653
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: pretty bad pick early in the game, Eric terrible Kelsey

654
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 4: and then he hit He didn't mean to, but Rashi

655
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: Rice is their best receiver and he kind of ended

656
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: up hitting him like he's John Lynch because he was

657
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 4: trying to make a tackle, might have blown out his knee.

658
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 4: Like that's so you let's just hypothetically say he's gone

659
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: for a long period of time or the season. That's

660
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: pretty devastating. They were playing with Kareem This is not

661
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen. He's back on the team because they're starting

662
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 4: running back. Just broke his leg and the other kid

663
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: from Missouri, his own family through a wedding last Sunday

664
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: because they didn't even think the guy was gonna be

665
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: an NFL player. So I just I don't know, like

666
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: it's remarkable what they're doing and they've been playing like

667
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 4: this basically for two and a half years now. He

668
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: does feel eventually, like I love these guys and they

669
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: are It's truly one of the great runs of my

670
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: lifetime any sport, what they're rattling off now these over

671
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 4: this five years, but specifically these two years. I don't

672
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: know how you can maintain this. Eventually, you're gonna obvious

673
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: they're gonna lose some games this year, but like they're

674
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 4: margin foreir in a playoff game, it's just very, very

675
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: difficult for them to score. And Mahomes cannot and you

676
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: saw Andy get kind of mad early. You cannot turn

677
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: the ball over.

678
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: You know.

679
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: And I think Andy felt right away like this Charger

680
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: team came to play this Jim Harbaugh, They're ready, like

681
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 4: this could be fifteen to thirteen final score, and he

682
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 4: airmails it and steal fumbles and it's like you could

683
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: tell Andy was pissed because this has to be a

684
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 4: flawless We hold onto the ball, even if we're gonna

685
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: score fourteen points total, Okay, we'll win at fourteen to ten.

686
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 4: We can't hand them the ball at their own thirty

687
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: yard line. And I think if the two tackles are there,

688
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: Chiefs easily could have lost today. I mean, they are

689
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: holding on. It's competitive character. The toughness. It's what you

690
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: get out of like some of those late nineties Bulls teams,

691
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 4: some of those Curry Clay Draymond teams, Like it's only

692
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: they're the only team in the league that has this

693
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: in the back to keep doing this, like eventually you

694
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: just drop a game whatever, and they just they refuse

695
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 4: to lose.

696
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: And they got nothing.

697
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: I mean, they're best receivers carted off the field five

698
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: minutes into the game. They're riding Kareem Hunt. Well, I'm

699
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: pretty sure it wasn't even in the league like three

700
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: weeks ago, but they had no choice because the other

701
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 4: guy broke his leg.

702
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Isaiah watched that game. They got I mean, listen,

703
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 2: they got an injury rebreak. The Chargers are missing tackles Abosa,

704
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: Derwin Jay. They were missing their best athletes defensively, and

705
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: you know it's the NFL. You have to make up

706
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: for that. But as I watched them, you know they're going.

707
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: It's a tough opponent.

708
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: It's a tough opponent for that because their defense, Chris

709
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 4: Jones and Spags, they just kept on any long third

710
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 4: and long, they would just put ninety five over one

711
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: of the tackles even though he's a defensive tackle. So

712
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, I just become a defensive They wouldn't

713
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: do that with Alton Slater in the game, that's right.

714
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: So it was a total mismatch. You're just you just

715
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 4: kind of screwed.

716
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 2: And I think what they do with Chris Jones. There's

717
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: no rigidity with the Chiefs, Like you know, the saying

718
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: I use all the time at the volume to everybody

719
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: is don't worry about being right, get it right, don't

720
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: get stubborn on stuff. It's a fluid business. Change The Chiefs,

721
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: like you said, they go into the cupboard and whatever

722
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: is available they use. Like they're not a rigid franchise, which,

723
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: by the way, New England became in their dominance. I

724
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: mean Belichick basically took over the drafts. Belichick only wanted

725
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: to coach players he liked to coach.

726
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: They got very rigid.

727
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: They started buying into their own stuff. And by the way,

728
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: Greg Popovich, you know I'm not going to deal with Kawhi,

729
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: well you probably should.

730
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: He's great.

731
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: The danger of the danger. One of the things I

732
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: always respect about Saban. He just kept hiring great coaches.

733
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: He went from a defensive culture to a quarterback wide

734
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: receiver culture. Saban was just like whatever wins wins. And

735
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: I always said that that's really different with Saban. He

736
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: didn't have Belichick's ego. He was willing to just pivot

737
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: off guys move into guys. I mean, good God, in

738
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: the middle of a national championship gave me change his quarterbacks.

739
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: Saban was whatever wins works. I feel with Andy Reid,

740
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: I get that, I get I don't feel like there's

741
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: this definitive sort of moral standard, this saying, you know,

742
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: just do your job. Kansas City doesn't have one of those.

743
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: They don't have to do your job right, they don't

744
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: have one. Well, they just they do what they have

745
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: to do in this series to score, all right. So

746
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: I occasionally bring Danny Parkins on FS one, but we

747
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: can kind of stretch things out here and go for

748
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: forty five minutes to an hour on the volume, which

749
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: I really like, and talk about a bunch of different stuff.

750
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: So you don't want to make sweeping generalizations. But first

751
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: impressions do matter. They matter a lot. So when Nick

752
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: Sarianni had his first press conference, it was the worst

753
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: thing I'd ever seen. Jim tom Sula's was second. So

754
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: I had information. I'd seen Tom Sula's presser. He did

755
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: an interview after he was hired, and it was a disaster.

756
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Tom's slibit does. I'd been told by a source that

757
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: I really trust Sirianni wasn't parady for the job. They

758
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: weren't sure he was a great coordinator. And then he

759
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: had the press conference, and so then he starts coaching.

760
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: It's really choppy. Shane steik and takes over play calling,

761
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: it's really good, Shane leaves, it's terrible again, and so

762
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: and I think back to the Sirianni thing, and so

763
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: I didn't stick with my belief, Like my take was, Okay,

764
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: Sirianni's got it. And now I go back and I look,

765
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: and I think, why did you ever bail on that?

766
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: Your first impression was right? Now, I will say Dan

767
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: Campbell's opening presser was kind of vintage, a little caveman

768
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: over the top Dan Campbell. But the truth is, we

769
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: don't think he's situationally a great coach. We think he's

770
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: a culture builder. And he was building a culture so

771
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: that was aligned with how really he is, and that's

772
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: why his players play so damn hard. Even his first

773
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: year when they weren't winning, God, they were playing good

774
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: teams to the bell, and so I've always watched that

775
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: opening presser. Tmiko Ryans excellent, Sean McVay excellent, many of

776
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: the guys now again, Belichick was actually pretty damn funny

777
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: at the podium before he got all the rings. Then

778
00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: he turned angry. But I do watch that Wednesday press conference.

779
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: My legendary or annoying hat on backwards take like I

780
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: do think that stuff matters. I've had more coaches text

781
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: me on that in the last ten years than you

782
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: would believe that they they do take the wensday don't

783
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: want to go ahead. I mean, I've had people say

784
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: the truth is, we tell our guys, that's a big

785
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: press conference. The banks behind you watch what you say.

786
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: That's a big press conference, the Wednesday quarterback presser. And

787
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: I do watch press conferences for coaches because it tells

788
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: me Brady talked and never said anything, Eli Manning talked

789
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: and never said anything, and they turned out being two

790
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: of the smartest quarterbacks of all time. So one of

791
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: my takes is, I know it's a generalization, but I

792
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: do take snippets from coaches the podium As a member

793
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: of the media, I watch interactions. Kenny Pickett had a

794
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: comment at a press conference a year ago.

795
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to repeat it.

796
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: It was about some body part of his and I

797
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: was like, oh Jesus, this guy can't Nope, he doesn't

798
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: get it. Like this doesn't work at all. Whether or

799
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: not you agree with backward hat the premise of making

800
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: a judgment for high priority positions on brief snippets. Now

801
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: we do this with politicians freely, liberally and with conviction.

802
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: Do you buy it for sports?

803
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: To a point, I think that grading press conferences at

804
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: times is something that the media does and puts too

805
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: much emphasis on, because it is something that we can

806
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: relate to and we can understand. We are good public speakers.

807
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: We know how to speak into a microphone, we know

808
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: how to say interesting things. We don't know how to

809
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: run the West Coast offense. We don't know how to

810
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: block a three hundred pound guy who runs a four

811
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: or five. And so I think that there are some

812
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: degree of they're playing our game, They're answering our questions.

813
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: They're in front of our microphones, in front of our cameras,

814
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: so they're on our turf. So let's judge them at

815
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: our game, because it's something that we are obviously better

816
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: at and understand and are trained for. We're the pros

817
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: in that arena. So I do think sometimes we overrate it.

818
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: But that is not just I say all of that,

819
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: then say to your point. Sometimes when I see a

820
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: guy up there, I'm like, there's just no way that

821
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: he can command a room, right, you know, or like

822
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: there's no way that his players are not making fun

823
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: of him behind his back, or whatever the conclusion is.

824
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: So I'm not right. It's not a hard and fast

825
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: rule of Matt Eberflus Bears coach. I think he's a

826
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: nice guy who listens to his players, but I think

827
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: he's a little vanilla, little corny some dad jokes. I mean,

828
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: I've had guys say like, yeah, you know, Dad, Joe,

829
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: Grandpa Fluse, Like we laugh, we laugh at him a

830
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: little bit, like, not in a mean way, not in

831
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: a disrespectful way. But I don't believe that he's like

832
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: all of their guys that they would go to the

833
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: mat for forever, you know. I don't think he's that guy.

834
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell very clearly is that guy his team has

835
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: taken on the culture of Dan Campbell. I do wonder

836
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: if there's an expiration date on something like that, Like

837
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: if you give me the great culture builder or the

838
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: great schematic mind, I'll take the great schematic mind. Like

839
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: I'd be interested into knowing what Ben what Dan Campbell's

840
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: team looks like. When Ben Johnson takes a head coaching

841
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: job and a couple of the offensive players leave. You know,

842
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I'd much rather have Kyle Shanahan than Dan Campbell. Would

843
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: not even be close for me, because I've seen that

844
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan can overachieve. So I think that there's obviously

845
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: something to it. These are billion dollar organizations, you're representing

846
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: yourself publicly. It's a glimpse for us into their world.

847
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: But I also think, I mean, how you know way

848
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: more coaches than I do. I know plenty. I've covered

849
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: the NFL for a while. What are their work weeks?

850
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: One hundred hours? One hundred plus hour work weeks?

851
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, brutal.

852
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: They're in front of the camera for an hour a

853
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: week post game Monday Wednesday. So I think we get

854
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: so much content out of that hour that they're in

855
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: front of our cameras and microphones that we by definition

856
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: overrate its value because to them it's one percent of

857
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: their work week. To us, it's one hundred percent of

858
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: what we see into the building that isn't broadcast on

859
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: our TVs on Sunday night, Monday night, and Thursday night.

860
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: So I just do I think it matters, but I

861
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: think the media overrates it.

862
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: I look at quarterbacks and coaches the same way. When

863
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 2: I look at a quarterback out of college, there's got

864
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 2: to be at least one wow. So Daniel Jones has

865
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: no wow, so it doesn't work for me. Joe's accuracy

866
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: was wow, Josh Allen size Lamar's speed, Jayden Daniels a

867
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: little of both. There's a wow. That doesn't mean it's refined.

868
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: But when I saw Josh Allen first year jump over

869
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: a linebacker, I'm like wow. So my first take is

870
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: a Trubisky no wow, Daniel Jones, no Wow. Ej Manual

871
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: no Wow. Like if I don't see a wow, it's

872
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: not gonna last or you're gonna need a perfect coach.

873
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: That's why I was into Sam Darnold. I was like, oh,

874
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: I see the wow. He is freaking an athlete with

875
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: a big arm and he runs over He's like a

876
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: poor man's Andrew Luck or maybe a better man's Carson

877
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: Wentz like he's you know, but we know he's not Luck.

878
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: But I think he's better at his best than Carson Wentz.

879
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: If I said to you best coach, Andy Reid, is

880
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: there a definitive to you second best coach in the league?

881
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: Because Shanahan's liability has been late game lead evaporation, and

882
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: there's I can give you about six different times in spot.

883
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah you can. But he's the Here's the thing. This

884
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: is not a formula. It's not something that can be computed.

885
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: It's just in my own head. A guy who watches

886
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: damn near every game. I plug into the matrix for

887
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: eleven hours on Sunday from one VM Eastern to eleven

888
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern, and then watch Monday night football and

889
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: Thursday footbyes. Watch it all. I've got to in my head.

890
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: How good is your quarterback? How good is your coach?

891
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: How good is your coordinator? How good is the rest

892
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: of your roster? How good is your owner? How good

893
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: is your general manager? How good is your cap space?

894
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Who's carrying more dead cap money? Who's supposed to win

895
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: this year, who's supposed to be good offensively, who's supposed

896
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: to be good defensively? And then I have all these factors,

897
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, who's overachieving and who's underachieving? Okay,

898
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 1: So like the Eagles, they spend more money on offense

899
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: than any team in the league, number one in cash

900
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: spent on the offensive side of the ball, and they

901
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: have an offensive head coach, and they have a high

902
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: profile offensive coordinator, and they're nowhere near the best offense

903
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: in the league through four games. They are underachieving. That's

904
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: a big knock for me on Nick Sirianni and also

905
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. He leads the league in turnover since the

906
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: start of last year. Kyle Shanahan, I've seen the guy

907
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo, and I've seen

908
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: him in a Super Bowl with Brock Purty, and I've

909
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: seen him in another NFC Championship game with Brock Purty.

910
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: I saw him trade three first round picks to move

911
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: up from thirteen to three to take an FCS quarterback

912
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: It not work in Trey Lance, and then be better

913
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: the next year like he is. It. It's crazy what

914
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: he gets out of Maybe you love Brock purty. Fine,

915
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: maybe his special or his wow is anticipatory throwing, post

916
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: snap processing between the years. Fine, we would not have

917
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: said that at Iowa State. We did not know that.

918
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: Good job by them. He was literally the last pick

919
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: in the draft. I don't think they knew it either.

920
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: There is something too Kyle Shanahan overachieving that impresses me

921
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: sure more than a And by the way, I'm consistent

922
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: on this Andy Reid best season of Donovan McNabb's life

923
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid, Mike Vick's life Andy Reid, Jeff Garcia's

924
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: life Andy Reid, Kevin Cobbs' life Andy Reid, Alex Smith's

925
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: life Andre Reed. Then he gets the generational talent five

926
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: thousand yards, fifty touchdowns, MVPs, Super Bowl, MVPs, rings, dynasties,

927
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: you know. So like to me, Andy Reid overachieved with

928
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: all of those guys. And so that is kind of

929
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: how I look at coaches, is are you overachieving or

930
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: underachieving based on your circumstance. And I would put Kyle

931
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: Shanahan to because to me, he is the most consistent

932
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: overachiever without a Hall of Fame quarterback.

933
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm watching Gino Smith make throws and if you didn't

934
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: know it was Gino Smith, the timing routes, the back

935
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: shoulder stuff, I'm like, I know, DK Metcalf's good, but

936
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: there was a lot of pressure. It was on the road.

937
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: It was thirty eight first downs, defensive head coach and

938
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: a college offensive coordinator. I'm sitting there like, if Seattle

939
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: had three of their four defensive front guys, that's a

940
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: real game. Is Gino a potential hoisted trophy guy? Because

941
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: damn he's big, he's strong, he moves. I mean, Aikman

942
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: was saying, this thing is he has got a heater

943
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: on this thing.

944
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: He makes high degree of difficulty throws consistently. He's incredibly impressive.

945
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: You know what's funny what I've been thinking about with

946
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Gino this year so far, I think one of the

947
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: single biggest stories in the NFL. And there are a

948
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 1: few I think that I just can't really stop thinking about,

949
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: but one of them is we all say that we

950
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: know that situation matters. It's not just like what if

951
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky would have been drafted to Andy Reid and

952
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes would have been drafted to the Bears. Right,

953
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: It's a great. What if? What would Mahomes' career look like?

954
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: What would Trabsky's career look like? If Trubisky had Kelsey

955
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: and Reed and Tyreek Hill in that infrastructure sitting behind

956
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: Alet Smith the whole thing. I like to play that

957
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: game on sports radio All the time we do these

958
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: unanswerable hypotheticals. Sam Darnold is ballin', Yes, Gino Smith is ballin'.

959
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: Justin Field's career highs in efficiency, taking fewer sacks, turning

960
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: the ball over less, higher passer rating than any time

961
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: in his career, higher completion percentage than any time in

962
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: his career, winning seventy five percent of his games. Baker

963
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: Mayfield has found a home. All of these guys were

964
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: left for debt. That's right. So we are all coming

965
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: out now in saying, oh, of course, Minnesota's good. Kevin O'Connell,

966
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: great coach, Brian Flores, great coach. Can anyone find any

967
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: member of the media that didn't have them finishing fourth

968
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: of the division? I mean, and by the way, me too,

969
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: guilty as charged, and I covered the NFC North and

970
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: I've said that Kevin O'Connell's an awesome coach for seven

971
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: years like five years whatever it's been, Like, so, can

972
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: I see Gino hoisting a Lombardi Trophy maybe, Like it's

973
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: it's not an anti Geno point for me to say no,

974
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: Like is the situation good enough for him?

975
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: It's the NFC, it's not the AFC.

976
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: Sure you're right now, here's here's why I love Detroit.

977
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: In that game, though, uh, people were going crazy over

978
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: three and o Seattle and McDonald coming from Baltimore, our

979
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: youngest head coach, their defense, the whole thing. I was like, Okay,

980
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: they had beaten Jacoby bris Bo, Nicks and Skyler Thompson, right, like,

981
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: can we we Every game matters in the NFL. Every

982
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: week matters. But some teams were judging through the prism

983
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: of four games. Seattle new coach, let's judge them through

984
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: just this season. Minnesota new quarterback, Let's judge them just

985
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: through the prism of this season. But I judge Detroit,

986
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: same head coach, same offensive coordinator, same offensive line, same quarterback,

987
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. I'm on Ross Saint Brown, Laporta, Gibbs, Montgomery.

988
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: It's the same team that last year lost by three

989
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: to the Niners in the NFC Championship Game. And it

990
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: was one of the five best teams in the NFL

991
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: all season. Like they have a twenty plus game body

992
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: of work to me of being a top five or

993
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: six team in the NFL. Seattle had three games of

994
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: beating bad quarterbacks. So I know that's not exactly an

995
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: answer on Geno Smith, but I also look at that way,

996
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: like Baltimore, I give them the benefit of the doubt, Kansas,

997
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: I give them the benefit of the doubt. Like teams

998
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: that Buffalo. I picked them to win the AFC East.

999
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: They've done it the last four years, like they to me,

1000
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: they deserve the benefit of the doubt over some of

1001
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: these newcome teams that we're thinking are gonna be the

1002
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: hot thing in the moment. So it's the NFC. Gino

1003
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: is slinging it, But I need to see them actually

1004
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: beat good teams with this defense, with this coach before

1005
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that they could go. And I mean, assuming

1006
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: you think San Francisco is gonna win that division, they'd

1007
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: have to go like at the you know, maybe at Detroit,

1008
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: at Green Bay, at San Francisco or something like that

1009
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl. That's just a very very

1010
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: tough path. Because I haven't seen them beat good teams yet.

1011
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: Time for another edition of Sharper Square. Chad Milman CC

1012
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: of the Action Network. All odds provided by DraftKings So,

1013
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: Cleveland getting three and a half against Washington, they get

1014
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb back. But I wonder if two things, Deshaun

1015
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: Watson is washed. Secondly, though they haven't faced great competition,

1016
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: Washington's domination of Arizona makes me think, do we have

1017
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: the next Lamar Jackson in Washington. There's a certain harmony

1018
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: with Cliff Kingsbury and Jade Daniels. It's not like they're

1019
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: completing seventy percent of the throws, it's like eighty two.

1020
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: So my gut, my history says, Cleveland plus three and

1021
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: a half against a rookie quarterback feels like a really

1022
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: smart side Sharper Square.

1023
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 6: It's there's gonna be games, Colin, and we've talked about this.

1024
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 6: We'll do the Sharp Calls segment on the Favorites, where

1025
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 6: the wise guys, professional betters will weigh in with their

1026
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 6: feedback on the games that we talk about. We talk

1027
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 6: about them on Tuesday. On Thursday, we go over Sharp

1028
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 6: Calls four or five games this week. Washington is one

1029
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 6: of them. Massive split. The right side is to play

1030
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 6: Cleveland at three and a half. You're one hundred percent right.

1031
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 6: It's not because of the rookie quarterback. Jaden Daniels has

1032
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 6: already proven he's preternaturally gifted, like what he has done

1033
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 6: in the first four weeks of the season is indicative

1034
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 6: of what you will do over the course of a season. Right,

1035
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 6: and his accuracy stats, as you mentioned, they are not

1036
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 6: just good for a rookie, they are good historically in

1037
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 6: the history of quarterbacking. This is a bi low cell

1038
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 6: high situation.

1039
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 5: Right.

1040
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 6: You want to get off the Commanders right now, because

1041
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 6: they had that big win against the Bengals. Then they

1042
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 6: went and blew out Arizona in a game a lot

1043
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 6: of professional bettles were betting in Arizona. Meanwhile, Cleveland, they're fading.

1044
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 6: The line flipped last week when Max Crosby was out

1045
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 6: and Devonte Adams was out for the Raiders and the

1046
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 6: Browns went from being under dogs to being favorites and

1047
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 6: then they still lost. Here's the challenge, and it's why

1048
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 6: the game is so split, and it's why a lot

1049
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 6: of wise guys are taking the half point, but a

1050
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 6: lot of people they're just passing this offensive line for

1051
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 6: Cleveland is in shambles, and now Ethan Pozick, who was

1052
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: the center who went out last week, there are questions

1053
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 6: about his ability to play this week. And they are

1054
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 6: already lacking other offensive linemen that has been killing their

1055
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 6: their running game, which has always been good. Forget about

1056
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb. If David and Joku gonna play. If Djoku plays,

1057
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 6: that makes Deshaun Watson a little bit better. But generally

1058
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 6: this team is struggling at every single position on the

1059
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 6: field defensively as well, like they have not been playing

1060
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: well defensively. Miles Garrett has already said he's got injuries

1061
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 6: to his feet that are going to require surgery. To listen,

1062
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 6: I want to bet the Browns so bad in this game.

1063
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 6: I do, I really do, And like I can't pull

1064
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 6: the trigger yet I might, I might, the wise guys

1065
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 6: still might come in.

1066
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: It's not one of my favorite plays.

1067
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: So I believe two things are true simultaneously. That quarterbacking

1068
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: matters more now than ten years ago, and coaching does.

1069
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: I think there's a gap in coaching in this league,

1070
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: and you're seeing it on a regular basis. I think

1071
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: Minnesota has the best coaching staff in the league. Brian

1072
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: Flores arguably the best defensive coordinator, where top quarterback C. J.

1073
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: Stroud brought pretty acknowledge. I don't know what I saw.

1074
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: Minnesota doesn't even have to give off a field goal. Oh,

1075
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: by the way, massive pressure on a team I think

1076
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: is one of the most poorly coached between Nat Hackett

1077
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: and Robert Sala. If it's three, I stay away. If

1078
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: I only have to swallow two and a half Darnold

1079
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers, it's a lot closer right now than

1080
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: you think. I would swallow the two and a half

1081
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: in London and take Minnesota sharper score.

1082
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 6: So historically you're on the right side. I think their

1083
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 6: record for favorites in London just straight up thirty four

1084
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: to ten and one, yes, thirty and fifteen against the spread,

1085
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 6: So that is the right side. The wise guys have

1086
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 6: a they can't quit Annion Rodgers. They can't quit the

1087
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 6: Jets right now, so they have been coming in on

1088
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 6: the Jets. But I agree with you, the right side

1089
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 6: is the Viking. It's not it's not a sharp side

1090
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 6: by any measure, but it is the side where you

1091
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 6: probably are going to have a better opportunity because of

1092
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 6: what's happened historically.

1093
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: Okay, something that I believed for a long time, a

1094
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: little zigzag theory. When a really good team is humiliated

1095
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: in a standalone game, take them the following week. Yes,

1096
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo minus one at Houston without Joe Mixon, C J.

1097
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: Strout all you all quarterbacks need run games, young quarterbacks especially,

1098
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: It's not quite the same without Joe Mixon. A healthy

1099
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon. Buffalo is an excellent team, much more depth,

1100
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: more layered offensively than years before. The linebackers are healthier,

1101
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: completely utterly humiliated. I would swallow the point and take

1102
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: Buffalo sharper square.

1103
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 5: Square, totally square.

1104
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 6: This is a massive public game where the fans are

1105
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 6: coming in and they love the Bills and normally and

1106
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 6: there are stats to back this up, which I'm sure

1107
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 6: we will get to. You get blown out. You want

1108
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 6: to be the team that is being bet on in

1109
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 6: the next game. Here's what's challenging for this game. Number One,

1110
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 6: the line has flipped. It's gone from Buffalo being the

1111
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 6: underdog Buffalo being the favorite. That is a side where

1112
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 6: you want to be on the underdog. That is a

1113
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 6: historical trend where when the line flips you bet the

1114
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 6: underdog number one, number two on the field. The challenge

1115
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 6: with the Bills is at the middle of their defense,

1116
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 6: from their linebackers to their safeties is just trash.

1117
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 5: Right.

1118
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 6: Matt Milano has been out since before the season started.

1119
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 5: His backup out tomorrow.

1120
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 6: Hamlin is not a top notch safety in the way

1121
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 6: they have had top notch safeties in the past. Nico

1122
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 6: Collins is a game wrecker right now. So CJ. Shroud

1123
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 6: improves his third down efficiency just a little bit and

1124
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 6: will probably have that opportunity to take advantage of the

1125
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 6: middle of the field against that Bill's defense. Then all

1126
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 6: of a sudden, you're playing yourself out of a game.

1127
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 6: So the wise guys are on the Texans and they're

1128
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 6: hoping to keep getting plus one and a half so

1129
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 6: they can get a little bit of a cushion. But again,

1130
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 6: what's interesting that half point means everything in these games

1131
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 6: where the spreads are between one and four, right, So

1132
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 6: that's a massive, massive edge.

1133
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: So Green Bay and I said I didn't bet the

1134
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: Packers Vikings because my guess was the two possible outcomes,

1135
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: and I actually saw both in the Vikings Packers game. Yeah,

1136
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: Brian Flores first half against Jordan Love. Jordan looked like

1137
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: he hadn't played a lot. Second half gets his feet

1138
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: under him. Green Bay pivots at half, and then you

1139
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: see the real Packers team that can play with anybody.

1140
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: So I think the second half Packers is the team

1141
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm getting. There's still a major problem with the Rams.

1142
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: With no Pooka and Cooper Cup. They can't get touchdowns

1143
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: in the red zone. They have no playmaker. Tyler Higbee

1144
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 2: out Pooka out, Cooper Cup out, Blake Korum not playing much,

1145
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: missing their best offensive lineman on the interior. So the Rams,

1146
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: even when they outplay you, they're just settling for field goals.

1147
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: I think the second half Green Bay team minus three.

1148
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a strong play, but I take

1149
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: the Packers. There is no home field advantage. It'll be

1150
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 2: sixty five thirty five. Packer fan Sharper Square.

1151
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 6: You have nailed the biggest prose Joe's game on the

1152
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 6: board with the pros playing the Los Angeles Rams. So

1153
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 6: on Tuesday, me and my co host Simon Hunter, you're

1154
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 6: always trying to put us against each other. We like

1155
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 6: to bring we like to bring love to the Volume

1156
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 6: podcast network, but you're trying to, you know, create animosity.

1157
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: I like conflict.

1158
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, you like conflict. Listen, that's why you're a content genius.

1159
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 6: You know, conflict creates really great ratings. I came in

1160
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 6: and I'm like, Simon, the Packers are the side here.

1161
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 6: We saw the second half they were in that game

1162
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 6: against the Vikings. Brian Flores has been making C. J.

1163
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 6: Stroud and brock Purty see ghosts and Jordan love when

1164
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 6: it was coming down to it was right there like

1165
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 6: that was a scary, scary game. If you were a

1166
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 6: Vikings Packer, you got to take the Packers here against

1167
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 6: a team in the Rams that can't put anyone in

1168
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 6: the field.

1169
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 5: Come in to me, it was.

1170
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 6: Don't get cocky, And sure enough, as the week went on,

1171
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 6: this was the game that all the wise guys were

1172
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 6: coming in on. You saw the line move from three

1173
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 6: and a half down to three. Even with all the

1174
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 6: tickets coming in on the Packers, it stayed exactly where

1175
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 6: it is. It's pretty astonishing how much the wise guys

1176
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 6: like the Rams.

1177
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 5: Here.

1178
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 6: I'm going to be on the Rams. I'm hoping that

1179
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 6: I can wait until Sunday and get three and a

1180
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: half again. When everybody is coming in and the public

1181
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 6: comes in on the Packers. One stat I can give you,

1182
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 6: and similar to why wise guys are thinking about the Browns,

1183
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 6: is when you're playing a team covering the spread by

1184
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 6: more than five points per game. So then in this

1185
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 6: case the Packers, they only cover about forty five percent

1186
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 6: of the time when facing a team with a win

1187
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 6: percentage of less than sixty. So I know it's a

1188
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 6: lot of numbers, but basically, when bad teams play good teams,

1189
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 6: bad teams cover.

1190
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: Giant Seahawks. Rarely have I ever been more impressed with

1191
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: a losing team on Monday Night football. So Seattle in Detroit,

1192
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: standalone game missing their top four defensive linemen, you knew

1193
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: they couldn't stop Detroit. Seattle has two things going for it.

1194
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: Their skill players Walker dk Metcalf tight ends Gino's playing.

1195
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: I mean he's completing seventy seven percent of his throws,

1196
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: and I think Mike McDonald's excellent. They're getting a couple

1197
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: of their defensive linemen back New York. If Malik Neighbors

1198
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: doesn't play in this environment, I don't know how the

1199
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: Giants move the ball. McDonald is really clever and he's

1200
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: been really good against average a blow average quarterbacks. I

1201
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: came out of that Seahawks game and I'm like, I

1202
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: would not want to play them. I think if those

1203
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: two teams met again and Seattle was reasonably healthy, I

1204
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: wonder if I'd take Seattle. I'm gonna swallow the six.

1205
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: I know I'm a dullered, but sharper square.

1206
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're a duller because you're on the right side

1207
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 6: at a bad number. And what is the theme of

1208
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 6: today's show, Get the best.

1209
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 5: Of the number? Right?

1210
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 6: This game opened at five, I think maybe five and

1211
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 6: a half. That lasted for maybe seventeen and a half

1212
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 6: seconds before the wise guys took the five and a

1213
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 6: half took the six. By the time most of America

1214
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 6: got up on Monday morning, it was at six and

1215
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 6: a half, where it's been sitting, except for today, where

1216
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 6: it's starting to creep up to seven. You are seeing

1217
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 6: some sevens out there.

1218
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 5: Don't do it.

1219
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 6: There's a lot of games like you're just setting yourself

1220
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 6: up for disaster because there's so much variance in these games,

1221
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 6: and teams that have been seven point favorites or more

1222
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 6: this year are crushing it. So you're hoping there's some aggression,

1223
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 6: but this is like they're eight and five straight up

1224
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 6: this year, so you're really playing with fire to bet

1225
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 6: the worst of the number on a big underdog.

1226
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I like Pittsburgh minus two and a half of

1227
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: the Cowboys TJ Watt against the rookie left tackle. It's

1228
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: a standalone game justin fields under Arthur Smith is not

1229
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: as turnover prone. And I mean this is a classic

1230
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: example to me of what the Steelers can do offensively

1231
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: is run the ball, and the Cowboys defensive run defense

1232
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: is thirty second in the league. I don't have to

1233
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: love the Pittsburgh Steelers offensively, but there are things they're

1234
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 2: excellent at doing. I'm not sure what Dallas does well

1235
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: at this point, I would swallow the two and a

1236
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: half in Pittsburgh Sharper.

1237
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 6: Square totally sharp wise, guys love this game. It's sort

1238
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 6: of a reverse raw ro on Mike Tomlin spot. Normally

1239
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 6: you don't like back in Mike Tomlin as a favorite, right,

1240
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 6: and we saw that last week. I was all over

1241
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 6: the Colts last week when the Steelers were on the

1242
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 6: road playing in Indie. But he's coming off a loss.

1243
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 6: So even though he's a favorite. It's a good rob

1244
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,520
Speaker 6: Ross spot for the coach who has been enormously successful

1245
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 6: motivating his team. But then all, let's look at the field.

1246
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 6: Dallas was already thin and bad defensively. Now they are

1247
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 6: thinner and worse. No Micah Parsons, no DeMarcus Lawrence on offense,

1248
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks is out in the backfield. They really have

1249
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 6: no running game to speak up. From a matchup point

1250
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 6: of view, it lines up perfectly for the Steelers in

1251
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 6: every way they have an edge.

1252
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 5: You want to be able to run the ball.

1253
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 6: You want to get the ball out of Justin Field's hands,

1254
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 6: or you want to peep the ball in his hands

1255
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 6: for RPOs. Arthur Smith, Steelers offensive coordinator, has been amazing

1256
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 6: this year. Ye a game planning to put Justin Fields

1257
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 6: in a position to succeed. The only time it hasn't

1258
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 6: worked is when they were losing and all of a

1259
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 6: sudden he had to start making plays throwing the ball

1260
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,440
Speaker 6: down field, and that's when he's fumbling. He's making bad decisions.

1261
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 6: They will likely have a lead in this game. They

1262
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 6: will likely be able to nurse a lead in this game,

1263
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 6: and then it's going to be up to Dak Prescott

1264
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 6: to throw the Cowboys back into the game, and he's

1265
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 6: going to be going against TJ. Watt, and that's when

1266
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 6: the Steelers really cycle up the opportunity to win. So yeah,

1267
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 6: we're all over the Steelers in this game.

1268
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: Saints plus five and a half at Kansas City with

1269
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 2: no Rashi Rice. So it's not a great offensive line,

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Speaker 2: but check ho still not back, not as format ale

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01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: a run game. You lost your number one receiver. Xavier

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01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 2: Worthy could become a volume receiver, he's certainly not that now.

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01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 2: I think the Saints can hang around Chiefs to win,

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: but five and a half seems really really rich.

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Speaker 5: Sharper square, totally sharp.

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 6: The Saints are the right side here, and don't be

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 6: sort of dissuaded by the outings they've had the past

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 6: couple of weeks. They were incredibly unlucky. We've talked about

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01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 6: the luck rankings on this show, which is basically a

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 6: formula our math geniuses have devised to separate the signal

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 6: from the noise and identify regression either positively or negatively. Right,

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 6: So last week, the last two weeks, the Saints have

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01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 6: been incredibly unlucky.

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 5: The Chiefs have still been lucky.

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01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 6: Right, and they will acknowledge that they are playing at

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 6: a higher level than their talent because Patrick Mahomes is

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01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 6: so much better than everybody else. This is the biggest

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 6: difference in luck we have in our luck rankings this week,

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01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 6: twenty eight spots separating them that number. If a difference

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01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 6: in the luck rankings of twenty eight or more sixty

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Speaker 6: five percent against the spread, if the team that's unlucky

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01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 6: is on the road seventy eight percent against the spread,

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01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 6: I'll throw even more at you, Colin. Think about Patrick

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01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 6: Mahomes as a favorite of more than a field goal

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01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 6: under five hundred against the spread. You want to talk

1296
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 6: about Derek Carr. Derek Carr gets a lot of hate

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 6: from everybody, deservedly so, but as an underdog the past

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01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 6: twenty years, if he is playing a team that scores

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 6: less than twenty one points in a game, he has

1300
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 6: a top five against the spread record. With guys like

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 6: Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees. How many points a

1302
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 6: game are the Kansas City Chiefs averaging eighteen something like that?

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01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 6: So the stars are aligning for New Orleans to cover

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01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 6: against the Kansas City Chiefs.

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't know what the over under should be for

1306
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: Denver in Las Vegas. But in a game that could

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01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 2: end up seventeen fourteen, I'm going to take the points

1308
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 2: with the Raiders two and a half against bone Knicks.

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01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 2: I like bon Nicks. There's limitations. I just don't see

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01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: the points here. I think Denver's defense has actually paid

1311
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: really well and I think it will hold brock Bauers

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01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams. I don't think that trade happens till after

1313
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: this weekend. I have to take the points here with

1314
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: the Raiders in a division rivalry game. Sharper Square.

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why you do take the points is because

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01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 6: it's a division rivalry game. Because why would you take

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 6: a rookie quarterback as a favorite when he just came

1318
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 6: off a game where he literally had the most putrid

1319
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 6: offensive stats that have happened since the nineteen sixties. You know,

1320
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 6: minus seven yards passing at one point. But the challenge

1321
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 6: here and the wise guys are totally split, so you're

1322
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 6: not going to get like a definitive Sharper Square.

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01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 5: Personally, I have bet the Raiders.

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 6: At plus two and a half, but I know a

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01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 6: lot of guys who are taking the Broncos their defense

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01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 6: isn't just good, their defense is elite, like they're playing

1327
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 6: at a top five level. And you're going against a

1328
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 6: Raiders team where Max Crosby we still don't know what

1329
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 6: kind of health he will be in for the game.

1330
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 6: They have offensive line issues as well. Obviously Devonte Adams

1331
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 6: will not be playing in that game. I don't know

1332
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 6: that that matters to me. That's not a reason to

1333
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 6: bet or not bet. But I do think Gardner Mischeu

1334
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 6: under pressure about sixty two percent QBR. When he's not

1335
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 6: under pressure, he's in the nineties. So something the Broncos

1336
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 6: do really well is pressure the quarterback top five, So

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01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 6: that's going to be a challenge. I think I'm still

1338
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 6: going to be on the Raiders because ultimately I like

1339
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 6: the trend of betting the division the dogs in the division.

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01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 5: But it's a tricky one. It's not like a definitive

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Speaker 5: Sharper square.

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Speaker 1: The volume.

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