Speaker 1: In honor of Women's History Month, when Fridays, we'll be
Speaker 1: releasing episodes of historical Records. My new podcast with the
Speaker 1: story Pirates, is an explosive fusion of hip hop and history,
Speaker 1: tailor made for music loving kids and families, a podcast
Speaker 1: the entire family can listen to and enjoy together. In
Speaker 1: today's episode, Niminy heads to out of Space to make
Speaker 1: a brand new hip hop track about Mary Golden Ross,
Speaker 1: the very first Native American female aerospace engineer. We hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy Historical Records, the show that proves in order
Speaker 1: to make history, you have to make some noise.
Speaker 2: Rah today another hour.
Speaker 3: We don't have that kind of time. Tina, the spaceship
Speaker 3: is scheduled to blast off in one minute. One minute,
Speaker 3: ll LOUNDI look, Tina, I don't care if my face
Speaker 3: is on the outside anymore, so long as it flies
Speaker 3: through space. Forget my gorgeous exterior design. Just make sure
Speaker 3: we have a sturdy vessel.
Speaker 1: Tina's gonna drive, But the time in his night, Tina's
Speaker 1: gotta move.
Speaker 3: Last fill the hype man gets it, Raccoons, Let's fire
Speaker 3: up Dan Jacob. Hey, listeners, as you can likely tell,
Speaker 3: you caught me at a pretty tense moment. I am
Speaker 3: sitting inside a homemade rocket and am about to launch
Speaker 3: into space. Why are we doing this well, Tina, I
Speaker 3: am determined to be the first person in history to
Speaker 3: record a song in space. Oh. I got the idea
Speaker 3: from today's hero. I don't know that much about her,
Speaker 3: but Mary Golda Ross is a NASA legend and it
Speaker 3: got me thinking about space. Okay, and second till last, Tina,
Speaker 3: please tell me we're ready. I'm just, you know, about
Speaker 3: to get blasted into the great unknown and need to
Speaker 3: know the rocket. It's good to go? Good? Oh, this
Speaker 3: is gotta it close? Yes, you did it? Records. Here
Speaker 3: we go. Three till one flap. That didn't sound good.
Speaker 3: It almost sounded like the engine exploded. Okay, that definitely
Speaker 3: sounded like the engine exploded.
Speaker 4: It's historical records.
Speaker 3: You are now listening to historical were To make history,
Speaker 3: you got to have struggles to make history. You got
Speaker 3: to show poised, cannot be quiet loud as the riot.
Speaker 3: To make history, you gotta make some noise. Hi, listeners,
Speaker 3: Niminy here welcoming you back to historical records. As you know,
Speaker 3: this is the show where I spearhead daring experiments that
Speaker 3: combine history and hip hop. Unfortunately, we are all to
Speaker 3: a bad start today because the spaceship mostly built by
Speaker 3: my raccoon assistance exploded. That's true, Tina, it was not
Speaker 3: all your fault. It was mostly your fault. Anyway, Listeners,
Speaker 3: the good news is that today's historic figure knows a
Speaker 3: lot about spaceships. So I am really hoping to get
Speaker 3: some inspiration or even directly snack some first hand space knowledge.
Speaker 3: Let's head to the library to find my historian Gape.
Speaker 3: What is that zaploys about Himine Gabe book, You just
Speaker 3: appeared from nowhere.
Speaker 5: Actually, I appeared from somewhere. I teleported here from the beach.
Speaker 3: Is that why you're wearing those Neon red aviator sunglasses?
Speaker 5: No, that's why I'm wearing these flippers. These sunglasses are
Speaker 5: my new history simulator.
Speaker 3: How futuristic and practical.
Speaker 5: Indeed, I realized that if I could just figure out
Speaker 5: how to teleport our body through space, then we wouldn't
Speaker 5: need some big honking machine to get us around. We
Speaker 5: could just appear anywhere in history without causing a stir.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you figured out how teleportation works.
Speaker 5: It took me all weekend, which was pretty annoying, but
Speaker 5: I got there. Eventually. Turns out it's all just math.
Speaker 3: Since one has one of my historians become a math expert.
Speaker 5: History is my area of expertise, but math, math is
Speaker 5: my passion. Everybody needs a hobby, Niminy, I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm learning a.
Speaker 3: Lot about you today. But wait, gate teleportation just moves
Speaker 3: people from place to place. History simulators don't just need
Speaker 3: to be able to move through space, they also need
Speaker 3: to be able to move through time.
Speaker 5: I was nervous about that too, but luckily time and
Speaker 5: space are inextricably tied together, so we should be able
Speaker 5: to get anywhere we need.
Speaker 3: How does that work?
Speaker 5: Time is just a line, hence the phrase timeline. That
Speaker 5: means that any date in the past is just a
Speaker 5: location on that line. You follow, I.
Speaker 3: Do, But you're really surprising me today with this expert
Speaker 3: level math and time travel knowledge, I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: meeting a whole new Gabe.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm a very different Gabe than I was yesterday,
Speaker 5: and a very different game than I'll be tomorrow. That is,
Speaker 5: if everything goes according to plan, you know, Niminy, Change
Speaker 5: is the only constant.
Speaker 3: Ain't that the truth? Now?
Speaker 5: Shall we zap our way straight into the life of
Speaker 5: Mary Golde Ross?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? But Gabe, how am I supposed to get around?
Speaker 3: If you're the one wearing the history simulator glasses?
Speaker 5: I made you your own pair.
Speaker 3: Fantastic news for the both of us.
Speaker 5: Here you go, and off we head to the National
Speaker 5: Mall in Washington, d C. Two thousand and four.
Speaker 3: Oh, what's it the big.
Speaker 5: Don't worry, we'll reappear momentarily.
Speaker 3: Here we are. Huh the teleportation sunglasses worked. By the way,
Speaker 3: what was that white void we passed through?
Speaker 5: No clue, but I'm really hoping we never get stuff
Speaker 5: in there anyway. Welcome to DC.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's so muggy here is it summer?
Speaker 5: It's early fall? Actually, But people forget our nation's capital
Speaker 5: was built on a swamp next to the Potomac River.
Speaker 3: The air is so soggy I can barely see where
Speaker 3: we are. Oh. Also, the lenses on these sunglasses are
Speaker 3: incredibly dark.
Speaker 5: Both true statements. I can barely see as well. But
Speaker 5: I happen to know. We are a little less than
Speaker 5: a mile from the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument, and
Speaker 5: the White House.
Speaker 3: Coo, go go go, go go cool. But Gabe, who
Speaker 3: is that ninety year old woman in that stunningly beautiful
Speaker 3: ancestral Cherokee dress? And why is she leading that processional?
Speaker 3: That's Mary Goldo Ross. I suppose I should have seen
Speaker 3: that coming.
Speaker 5: And she's leading a procession of Indigenous people to celebrate
Speaker 5: the opening of the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian.
Speaker 3: That seems less obvious but makes perfect sense. Huh. If
Speaker 3: she was chosen to lead the processional, she must be
Speaker 3: pretty important.
Speaker 5: Her legacy, much like space, is immeasurable. She made a
Speaker 5: massive impact in US history, Cherokee history, and the space race.
Speaker 3: Space race, you mean the competition between the US and
Speaker 3: the Soviet Union to have superior spaceflight capabilities.
Speaker 5: That's the one, and Mary was right in the middle
Speaker 5: of it. She was a brilliant mathematician specializing in aeronautics,
Speaker 5: so she helped write NASA's manuals for manned spaceflights, all
Speaker 5: while being a proud Cherokee.
Speaker 3: This woman is awesome, And as someone who is hoping
Speaker 3: to get into space herself, maybe we could back up
Speaker 3: a bit and see how she got here. I'd love
Speaker 3: to get away closer, look at some of her technical
Speaker 3: know how. That way, maybe a certain podcast host can
Speaker 3: try to get her rocket ship to take off. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You will need to put your sunglasses back on.
Speaker 6: Ready, set tell apart, disappearing, passing through the weird white board,
Speaker 6: and reappearing.
Speaker 5: Santa Fe, New Mexico in nineteen forty two.
Speaker 3: Ooh, it's hot, hair too, but dry as a sand sandwich.
Speaker 5: My lips are getting chapped just standing here. Let's head
Speaker 5: inside that school.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, speaking of dry, look at that math equation.
Speaker 3: Mary golda Ross is riding on the chalkboard.
Speaker 5: Five Very good, pretty complicated stuff to be sure.
Speaker 3: All right, those kids were saved by the bell help?
Speaker 3: But wait, is she helping that young woman after hours?
Speaker 5: Indeed she is, because Mary was a math teacher and
Speaker 5: advisor for Native American girls in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Speaker 3: And now her classroom phone is ringing. This woman is busy.
Speaker 5: You have no idea. This is her literally answering the
Speaker 5: call to help the nation in nineteen forty two, when
Speaker 5: World War II broke out.
Speaker 3: How could a math teacher with a master's degree help
Speaker 3: the nation during war?
Speaker 5: First, she joined the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. Next, she used
Speaker 5: math to keep fighter checks from falling apart while flying
Speaker 5: close to the speed of sound.
Speaker 3: Sounds like we should speed to Lockheed Aircraft Corporation so
Speaker 3: we can see her work first hand.
Speaker 5: To Lockheed in nineteen fifty seven. Ready, study teleport and.
Speaker 3: Our bodies are disappearing. A quick wave and the scary whiteboard.
Speaker 3: And now we're at Lockheed, finally a place with a
Speaker 3: temporate climate. Gabe, is it just me? Or is Mary
Speaker 3: the only woman here?
Speaker 5: The only other woman was the secretary.
Speaker 3: And look at her tools. A slide ruler and the
Speaker 3: world's largest calculator.
Speaker 5: That's called a freedom calculator.
Speaker 3: Verty amazing the things she worked on planes with these
Speaker 3: totally old school tools. Hey, why is everyone at Lockheed
Speaker 3: in such a huge hurry?
Speaker 5: Remember they're in a.
Speaker 3: Race, a space race, right? But how did the space
Speaker 3: race begin? Why was everyone suddenly so desperate to get
Speaker 3: into space?
Speaker 5: After World War Two, the United States and this Union
Speaker 5: got into a heated competition called the Cold War, and
Speaker 5: a big part of that struggle was over the control
Speaker 5: of space.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, So everyone's eyes were on the.
Speaker 5: Stars, and in nineteen fifty seven, the Soviets launched the
Speaker 5: first ever satellite into orbit, which was called Sputnick.
Speaker 3: So Mary and all her colleagues are trying to catch up.
Speaker 5: It was all hands on deck for US scientists, engineers,
Speaker 5: and mathematicians. But eventually Mary went to NASA. Shall we
Speaker 5: join her there?
Speaker 3: On your marks?
Speaker 5: Get set teleports.
Speaker 3: I'm terrifying.
Speaker 5: My god, I don't work here, but welcome to NASA.
Speaker 7: Oo.
Speaker 3: Look, Mary is over there. Let's go check out what
Speaker 3: she's working on. See if maybe I can learn how
Speaker 3: to get a spaceship in the air.
Speaker 5: Okay, but we should probably try not to be noticed
Speaker 5: because most of what Mary's working on is top secret.
Speaker 3: You're totally right, Gabe. It says top secret right on
Speaker 3: top of the manual she's typing up. Oh. I feel
Speaker 3: like we're in a spy.
Speaker 5: Movie from the looks of it. The thing that she's
Speaker 5: working on is the operational requirements for a spacecraft.
Speaker 3: Jackpot, that's exactly what I need to get my spacecraft
Speaker 3: into space. Just gonna write a couple things down.
Speaker 5: That manual is an absolutely vital part of the Apollo program.
Speaker 5: And you see that pile of papers on her desk, Oh,
Speaker 5: that's gonna turn into NASA's Planetary Flight Handbook.
Speaker 3: Isn't that NASA's comprehensive guide to space travel? Sure is
Speaker 3: bubble Jackpot just gonna take a couple more notes here, and.
Speaker 5: This report over here is full of preliminary concepts for
Speaker 5: flights to Mars and Venus.
Speaker 3: Are you saying that Mary laid the groundwork for missions
Speaker 3: that haven't yet come to fruition. I am Oh, she's
Speaker 3: so cool. I love learning about cool people.
Speaker 5: You're not alone, which is why there's a sculpture of
Speaker 5: her at Buffalo State College. Also, there's a painting by
Speaker 5: Cherokee artist to America Meredith at the Smithsonian National Museum
Speaker 5: of the American Indian that we have to go see
Speaker 5: it better.
Speaker 3: Be her against a starry rocket filled sky.
Speaker 5: That is exactly what it is. How did you know that?
Speaker 3: Good guess? Tward time.
Speaker 5: And we're back to the Smithsonian.
Speaker 3: Look, there's our painting, Merey Golde Ross in space. It's
Speaker 3: absolutely stunning. Well, let's get closer.
Speaker 5: The painting is entitled ad Astra per Astra, which means
Speaker 5: to the stars from the stars, and a reference to
Speaker 5: a Cherokee origin story about how humans arrived on Earth
Speaker 5: from the Pleiades. Let's take a closer look.
Speaker 3: Look at all this detail. Wow, this painting is packed
Speaker 3: with symbolism. I actually know about this.
Speaker 5: Say more.
Speaker 3: Okay, First, there's this seven pointed star, which references the
Speaker 3: seven Sisters constellation Bigo. Second you have the seven clans
Speaker 3: of the Cherokee Bengo. And last you have got the
Speaker 3: seven directions in Cherokee cosmology Bongo niminy.
Speaker 5: I had no idea. You knew all that.
Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing the stuff that will float around in
Speaker 3: your noodle from high school history. But Gabe, what is
Speaker 3: that spacecraft in the painting?
Speaker 5: That is the agent a spacecraft? It was a versatile
Speaker 5: American rocket and satellite bus used by NASA and the
Speaker 5: US Air Force for tons of projects.
Speaker 3: Oh and look at this Marry quote below the painting.
Speaker 3: To function efficiently in today's world, you need math. The
Speaker 3: world is so technical. If you plan to work in it,
Speaker 3: a math background will let you go farther and faster.
Speaker 5: She was truly an example of how important math is
Speaker 5: for everyone.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I didn't realize how important math is
Speaker 3: and making so many big things happen in the real world.
Speaker 3: I kind of feel my way through a lot in life.
Speaker 5: Nimity, Can I ask you were you using any math
Speaker 5: to try to record a song in space?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Rocket ship plus one song equals one space song. Oh,
Speaker 3: I realized now it was a little simple.
Speaker 5: I admire your gumption and it got you on your way.
Speaker 3: True, and now thanks to Mary, I have got the
Speaker 3: goods and I am ready to try again. Speaking of which,
Speaker 3: are you ready to head back home?
Speaker 5: Actually, I'm going to teleport into the White Void?
Speaker 3: What what game? It's so endless and blank.
Speaker 5: Trust me, I know, but seeing how fearless Mary Golder
Speaker 5: Ross was made me realize it was time to face
Speaker 5: my fears.
Speaker 3: Well, good luck with that game. I obviously want the
Speaker 3: full report. As for me, I'm headed back to the
Speaker 3: book activate teleport.
Speaker 8: Bye, Who I am back in the here and now
Speaker 8: da come take a look at these notes I took.
Speaker 3: I have some serious improvements on the construction and operation
Speaker 3: of our rocket ship. Yeah, I know, pretty smart stuff, right?
Speaker 3: Can you make these changes? Fantastic? And while they are
Speaker 3: working on the rocket ship, I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 3: get in my space suit. I'll see. It's probably for
Speaker 3: the best. We didn't actually get into space last time.
Speaker 3: We didn't even have a proper protocol. I'm in and
Speaker 3: now that I am suited up, I am going to
Speaker 3: go ahead and get inside. Welcome. Thanks robot voice. Wow,
Speaker 3: it is starting to look good in here, Tina. What's
Speaker 3: the word.
Speaker 7: That was?
Speaker 3: Quick? I suppose when you're not guessing how to build
Speaker 3: a spaceship, it's a lot easier. Huh. Well, thanks to
Speaker 3: Marry Golda Ross for straightening out our space aspirations and
Speaker 3: making this possible. Robot boys, let's get this thing going
Speaker 3: and seconds. Listeners, we are about to make some history
Speaker 3: by making music about some history and featuring one of
Speaker 3: today's special guests, Crystal.
Speaker 9: Life Nice four three two ones.
Speaker 10: I go by the name of Mary Golda Ross, aka
Speaker 10: the first known Native American female aerospace engineer. I am
Speaker 10: a mathematician, I am a Cherokee, and I am a trailblazer.
Speaker 5: Here we go.
Speaker 10: I was born in Oklahoma nineteen o eight, a small
Speaker 10: town called park Hill, where life wasn't so great. But
Speaker 10: from a very early age I showed a growth rate
Speaker 10: at learning to compute the count and cold. Late I
Speaker 10: had a mind for math, and I got math in
Speaker 10: my mind. But for Native girls, you'll find it wasn't
Speaker 10: a good time. But I'm a great grand child of
Speaker 10: a charity teacher, so inside of me a healthless belief.
Speaker 10: Those around me, they often agreed, spend my next few
Speaker 10: years with their help in pursuit of my dreams. Knowledge.
Speaker 10: I sought it college with plots, math class, I taught
Speaker 10: it masters.
Speaker 3: I got it.
Speaker 10: But after the next chapter of my biography, one in
Speaker 10: which the prodigy in geometry wants to honestly, you are
Speaker 10: astronomer me. But misogyny in the field means the quantity
Speaker 10: of females that's near zero.
Speaker 3: It's hard to.
Speaker 10: See a past if you can't see a hero. So
Speaker 10: we rode back to a reservation. I worked in education.
Speaker 10: Maybe my dream was dead and then instead for the
Speaker 10: next generation.
Speaker 9: I never know where my path please plot.
Speaker 3: I solved all my problems.
Speaker 9: I got math, leats, married gold plus remember me check
Speaker 9: my legacy engineer and Cherokee.
Speaker 10: I did I advise the kids right? But I felt
Speaker 10: I never ever really get that big life. But then
Speaker 10: Germany starts picking a big fight and my world changes
Speaker 10: quick overnight. You might not know, but in World War Two,
Speaker 10: men were overseas siegings, so the girls would do new
Speaker 10: jobs that before would never hurt towards you. A new
Speaker 10: world soars through and un worlds for you.
Speaker 3: So what saw the sign?
Speaker 10: Search for the sign and the coast sign. I headed
Speaker 10: for the coastline to lock Heed on a course I
Speaker 10: was charged.
Speaker 3: And if you didn't and a few I was starting.
Speaker 10: At the job I always wanted doing aeronautics, making military
Speaker 10: places start silivery and Rocky Silent. Had that money in
Speaker 10: my pockets on a trade with Nope, stopping within the
Speaker 10: war stops.
Speaker 3: And then the men came home. So then I.
Speaker 10: Didn't know if they let me stop that work any more.
Speaker 10: Once again, every bosses at a cross roads, at a
Speaker 10: lost or where the oh no, I never know where
Speaker 10: my path.
Speaker 9: Please plut ourselves all my problems. I am Mattheleas married
Speaker 9: gold that plus remember me check my legacy engineer and
Speaker 9: Cherokee squeeze.
Speaker 10: Make them say, take a girl multiplier with some passion
Speaker 10: and action, attract all distraction, added a little traction and
Speaker 10: a fraction, a fashion and a glass ceiling.
Speaker 3: Would you get the answer?
Speaker 10: Risk Mary Ross? And if they would have said you
Speaker 10: can't do Matthew read anymore, I'd be very cross. That
Speaker 10: would be a scary thought because my mind absorbing all
Speaker 10: these facts like the water, and my brain is made
Speaker 10: of terry cloth. Yes, what I was so good that
Speaker 10: they kept me here, pay for me to train again
Speaker 10: to be an engineer, say for twenty plus years, earn
Speaker 10: my pension here, and did even more things than I
Speaker 10: can mentioned here. Most of it is classified.
Speaker 3: What's the fights to say?
Speaker 10: You got Mary Russ the thing for your flights? Today
Speaker 10: only woman in the room where the fellas is with
Speaker 10: the Melandine helping their new text development and writing manuals
Speaker 10: for the skunk Works. And after I retired, I'm inspiring
Speaker 10: the young squirts, helping kids who look like me do
Speaker 10: what I did, be a hero so they could dream.
Speaker 4: Beg Jesus, Jesus, make him say.
Speaker 8: Jesus.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a few words for the
Speaker 3: grown ups. Landing in the three two ones, A flawless
Speaker 3: re entry and landing. I sure am glad to be
Speaker 3: back home. Now, let me just push the button to
Speaker 3: open the spaceship door.
Speaker 5: Raccoons, We did it.
Speaker 3: We recorded a song in space. Yea, how she did it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: First you had to record.
Speaker 3: A song edge first, Hey, it's my high fan Phil.
Speaker 11: Oh, yeah, Phil's here here in person and the spirit.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks to everyone for being my welcome committee, Phil, Tina,
Speaker 3: other nameless Raccoons. When I was recording that absolute smash
Speaker 3: hit of a tune in Deep Space, I realized something
Speaker 3: you did. Now you should tell us spill the fat.
Speaker 3: I realized I use math all the time in music.
Speaker 3: Music and math are like time and space, inextricably tied.
Speaker 3: Same all. Phil doesn't get it yet, think about it, Phil. Rhythms, patterns, intervals, scales,
Speaker 3: the notations of a composer communicate the sounds that a
Speaker 3: musician needs to make. It all involves maths. Music is man,
Speaker 3: and word is grateful exactly. Oh now, everyone, if you'll
Speaker 3: excuse me, my space mission went a touch too long
Speaker 3: and I have to head to my interview.
Speaker 5: Stat Wait, nmity, I have a question.
Speaker 3: What is it, Phil, And why do you suddenly sound
Speaker 3: so earnest? Can you send me into space?
Speaker 11: I'm really excited for you, but I'm also extremely jealous.
Speaker 3: It was my childhood dream calling a mission to space.
Speaker 12: I honestly just stumbled into this whole highbad thing, which
Speaker 12: is great, don't get me wrong, but space that was
Speaker 12: my first love.
Speaker 3: Phil I'm so glad you said something. I'd be thrilled
Speaker 3: to lend you my rocket ship really under one condition,
Speaker 3: fail will do anything you ask. I need you to
Speaker 3: promise that you'll keep space totally hyped.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, space man, combining my job.
Speaker 2: And my.
Speaker 3: Tina please help fill into space. Thanks team, and now
Speaker 3: for today's interview, we have two really special guests joining us.
Speaker 3: Please welcome Christina and Vivian.
Speaker 8: Hi.
Speaker 3: Please introduce yourselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eh sha Christina Helona Yisha sitting on Jenny Inishai
Speaker 2: bashish chin ttich ain'ty dashi che ashiha Dashanela.
Speaker 12: Hi.
Speaker 2: My name is Christina Helna and I am of the
Speaker 2: Black Streak Wood People Clan born for the Folded Arms
Speaker 2: People Clan. The Bitter Water Clan is my maternal grand
Speaker 2: father's clan and the Salt Clan is my paternal grandfather's clan.
Speaker 2: I am Navajo originally from the Nawaha Reservation from Samila, Arizona.
Speaker 2: I am the Interio's Rocket Systems engineering program manager at NORTHFORLK.
Speaker 2: Grumman Corporation in Chandler, Arizona.
Speaker 12: Hi.
Speaker 7: My name is Vivian. I am eight years old. I
Speaker 7: live in Ohio I am Odawa in Hana Nashoni. My
Speaker 7: name is Alway Hunted.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to have both of you here. Let's
Speaker 3: start off with your first question, Vivian.
Speaker 7: How do you know you wanted to be an engineer?
Speaker 12: Great question, Vivian.
Speaker 2: I actually knew I wanted to be an internet at
Speaker 2: a very young age, which is very rare. I was
Speaker 2: probably about your age, maybe even a year or two
Speaker 2: younger than you are right now. I saw an airplane
Speaker 2: go by above me, and I'd asked my mom what
Speaker 2: was that and she told me.
Speaker 12: What it was, and I was like, was there people
Speaker 12: on there?
Speaker 2: I was just asking all kinds of questions and she
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, well, have to take it to
Speaker 2: the library. I checked out books about airplanes and astronauts
Speaker 2: and space and rockets, and when I found out who
Speaker 2: designs rockets and airplanes, I found out was an aerospace engineer,
Speaker 2: and so that's what I said I was going to do.
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to make things fly. I
Speaker 2: want to do that.
Speaker 7: What does it feel like to be an engineer?
Speaker 2: Well, Vivian, it actually feels pretty amazing, you know, especially
Speaker 2: as a Native American woman. There's not many of us
Speaker 2: in the STEM field. You know, Mary Ross was the
Speaker 2: very first Native American engineer at Lockheed and just in
Speaker 2: general in the world. And you know, I just kind
Speaker 2: of use her path. She would worked very hard to
Speaker 2: get where she was and she was making great waved
Speaker 2: links to do what she loved and I'm going to
Speaker 2: do the same. And how she inspired individuals Native Americans
Speaker 2: alight like myself to pursue a STEM degree. She was
Speaker 2: definitely someone I looked up to and I'm hoping I'm
Speaker 2: able to inspire others as well, just telling the young
Speaker 2: Indigenous kids out there that they can do anything they want.
Speaker 2: They can be an engineer like myself and Mary Ross.
Speaker 3: Mary Ross is so inspirational. Can you tell us a
Speaker 3: little more about what she worked on, Christina.
Speaker 12: She worked on very different projects.
Speaker 2: One of them you might not be aware with, Vivian
Speaker 2: because you're so young, is the skunk Works project at
Speaker 2: Lackey Martin. Then they did a lot of classified projects
Speaker 2: what they called skunk Works. The bomber there, the really
Speaker 2: quiet airplane that makes no noise when it's flying up above.
Speaker 2: Like she gets to tried to work up really cool
Speaker 2: projects like that. She was amazing what.
Speaker 7: Was your favorite thing in school?
Speaker 2: Sciences was actually my favorite, just because you got to
Speaker 2: do a little bit of everything. And then what got
Speaker 2: me really interested in what I'm doing right now as
Speaker 2: an engineer in general is learning about physics and working
Speaker 2: on bottle rockets and the Newton's laws and all that craziness.
Speaker 2: Growing up, you know, I also like arts and crafts too,
Speaker 2: which is a little bit different than a little bit
Speaker 2: different than my engineering background. But you know, growing up,
Speaker 2: I used to watch my grandmother and grandparents leave rugs,
Speaker 2: so they had to use actually math too to do
Speaker 2: that and figure out how the rug weaving would go,
Speaker 2: how the patterns would look like, and to have to
Speaker 2: think about that ahead of time. My grandparents also did
Speaker 2: a lot of drawings and pottery, and so seeing that
Speaker 2: as a child kind of made me appreciate the arts
Speaker 2: a little bit too.
Speaker 3: Oh, your grandparents sound really talented, Vivian. You're interested in
Speaker 3: art too.
Speaker 7: Right, I think I like drawing.
Speaker 12: What do you like to draw?
Speaker 7: Sometimes I just draw Star Wars?
Speaker 12: Oh? You like Star Wars? What's your favorite character?
Speaker 7: M Arto D two?
Speaker 12: You know what so do?
Speaker 2: I I love R two D two and CP three
Speaker 2: to Zho I call them their besties because they're always together.
Speaker 3: Hey, now that I think about it, R two, D
Speaker 3: two and C three PO were probably built by engineers.
Speaker 3: Thank you both for joining me today.
Speaker 12: Been up so nice to meet you.
Speaker 7: Nice to meet you too, Thank you, Christina, Bye, Thank
Speaker 7: you bye, listeners.
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me today for our space epic. Pretty amazing.
Speaker 3: We made it so far into space and back, well,
Speaker 3: almost all of us. I still haven't heard from Gabe. Gabe,
Speaker 3: you're back and right on time. Hey, Nimity, How was
Speaker 3: the infinite White Void?
Speaker 5: Very intimidating at first and then very calming?
Speaker 3: Calming?
Speaker 5: Turns out a place without time and space can be
Speaker 5: pretty chill. Nowhere to be no time crunch for anything.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I spent years there.
Speaker 3: Oh, but you mention it. You are glowing slightly.
Speaker 5: Also, it was hard to sleep because it was so bright,
Speaker 5: So I think I'm gonna go lay down.
Speaker 3: Totally nice to catch up and hear about your mind
Speaker 3: bending adventure, listeners, real talk before we dive into Mary's
Speaker 3: legac See, I had no idea math played such a
Speaker 3: big role in my life. Are there ways that math
Speaker 3: plays a big role in your daily lives? I'd love
Speaker 3: to know anyway A huge thanks to today's guests Vivian,
Speaker 3: Crystal and Christina Remember parents and teachers. You can download
Speaker 3: a free activity related to today's episode by visiting story
Speaker 3: pirates dot com. Slash Historical Records and I can't wait
Speaker 3: to go on another adventure with you all very soon.
Speaker 3: Until next time it's face. Don't forget to make history.
Speaker 3: You gotta make some noise and possibly explode a spaceship
Speaker 3: engine or two bye.
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Speaker 11: Executive produced by Emir Questlove Thompson, John Plickman, Lee Overtree
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Speaker 11: is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus.
Speaker 11: Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Elliott. Scoring
Speaker 11: and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson.
Speaker 11: Sound designed and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic
Speaker 11: Room in New York City. Song mastering by Josh Han,
Speaker 11: Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Gerson and produced
Speaker 11: by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabelle Riccio. Production management
Speaker 11: by Maggie Lee. The line producer for Story Pirate Studios
Speaker 11: is Glennis Brawl. Pr for Story Pirate Studios is provided
Speaker 11: by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode
Speaker 11: was written by Duke Doyle. The song Mary golda Ross
Speaker 11: was written by Dan Foster and Niminy Ware and produced
Speaker 11: by Micah James, with vocal direction and additional music supervision
Speaker 11: by Jack Mitchell. Additional recording at Red Room Studios in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 11: Special guests Crystal Lightning, Christina Helona and Kid interviewer Vivian.
Speaker 11: This episode features performances by Sarah Elizabeth Haynes, Peter McNerney,
Speaker 11: Lee Overtree, and Gabe Pacheco. Special thanks to David Kerns
Speaker 11: and Joey Clift.