WEBVTT - Historical Records: Mary Golda Ross (feat. Crystle Lightning and Kristina Halona) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.680 In honor of Women's History Month, when Fridays, we'll be 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.520 releasing episodes of historical Records. My new podcast with the 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.360 story Pirates, is an explosive fusion of hip hop and history, 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:14.800 tailor made for music loving kids and families, a podcast 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.919 the entire family can listen to and enjoy together. In 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.880 today's episode, Niminy heads to out of Space to make 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.280 a brand new hip hop track about Mary Golden Ross, 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:29.160 the very first Native American female aerospace engineer. We hope 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.279 you enjoy Historical Records, the show that proves in order 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.600 to make history, you have to make some noise. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:45.200 Rah today another hour. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.080 We don't have that kind of time. Tina, the spaceship 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.200 is scheduled to blast off in one minute. One minute, 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:57.680 ll LOUNDI look, Tina, I don't care if my face 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.360 is on the outside anymore, so long as it flies 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.080 through space. Forget my gorgeous exterior design. Just make sure 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.240 we have a sturdy vessel. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.200 Tina's gonna drive, But the time in his night, Tina's 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:11.000 gotta move. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.639 Last fill the hype man gets it, Raccoons, Let's fire 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:20.959 up Dan Jacob. Hey, listeners, as you can likely tell, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.800 you caught me at a pretty tense moment. I am 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.639 sitting inside a homemade rocket and am about to launch 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:32.200 into space. Why are we doing this well, Tina, I 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.160 am determined to be the first person in history to 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.520 record a song in space. Oh. I got the idea 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.200 from today's hero. I don't know that much about her, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.959 but Mary Golda Ross is a NASA legend and it 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:51.600 got me thinking about space. Okay, and second till last, Tina, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.480 please tell me we're ready. I'm just, you know, about 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.800 to get blasted into the great unknown and need to 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.960 know the rocket. It's good to go? Good? Oh, this 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:05.440 is gotta it close? Yes, you did it? Records. Here 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:16.000 we go. Three till one flap. That didn't sound good. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:21.680 It almost sounded like the engine exploded. Okay, that definitely 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.400 sounded like the engine exploded. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.200 It's historical records. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:35.880 You are now listening to historical were To make history, 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.560 you got to have struggles to make history. You got 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.600 to show poised, cannot be quiet loud as the riot. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:48.440 To make history, you gotta make some noise. Hi, listeners, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.800 Niminy here welcoming you back to historical records. As you know, 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.920 this is the show where I spearhead daring experiments that 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:00.200 combine history and hip hop. Unfortunately, we are all to 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.320 a bad start today because the spaceship mostly built by 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:08.400 my raccoon assistance exploded. That's true, Tina, it was not 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:14.880 all your fault. It was mostly your fault. Anyway, Listeners, 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.680 the good news is that today's historic figure knows a 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.120 lot about spaceships. So I am really hoping to get 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:27.080 some inspiration or even directly snack some first hand space knowledge. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.799 Let's head to the library to find my historian Gape. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:36.280 What is that zaploys about Himine Gabe book, You just 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:37.840 appeared from nowhere. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:42.360 Actually, I appeared from somewhere. I teleported here from the beach. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.840 Is that why you're wearing those Neon red aviator sunglasses? 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.560 No, that's why I'm wearing these flippers. These sunglasses are 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.160 my new history simulator. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.560 How futuristic and practical. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.400 Indeed, I realized that if I could just figure out 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.840 how to teleport our body through space, then we wouldn't 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.400 need some big honking machine to get us around. We 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.120 could just appear anywhere in history without causing a stir. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.920 I can't believe you figured out how teleportation works. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.480 It took me all weekend, which was pretty annoying, but 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.440 I got there. Eventually. Turns out it's all just math. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.799 Since one has one of my historians become a math expert. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.800 History is my area of expertise, but math, math is 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.080 my passion. Everybody needs a hobby, Niminy, I feel like 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:27.800 I'm learning a. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:32.120 Lot about you today. But wait, gate teleportation just moves 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:36.159 people from place to place. History simulators don't just need 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.320 to be able to move through space, they also need 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.120 to be able to move through time. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.440 I was nervous about that too, but luckily time and 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.039 space are inextricably tied together, so we should be able 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.400 to get anywhere we need. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:50.760 How does that work? 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.920 Time is just a line, hence the phrase timeline. That 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.400 means that any date in the past is just a 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.280 location on that line. You follow, I. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.160 Do, But you're really surprising me today with this expert 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.960 level math and time travel knowledge, I feel like I'm 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:08.320 meeting a whole new Gabe. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.000 Oh, I'm a very different Gabe than I was yesterday, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.719 and a very different game than I'll be tomorrow. That is, 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.200 if everything goes according to plan, you know, Niminy, Change 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.200 is the only constant. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.200 Ain't that the truth? Now? 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.040 Shall we zap our way straight into the life of 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.560 Mary Golde Ross? 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:29.279 Absolutely? But Gabe, how am I supposed to get around? 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.039 If you're the one wearing the history simulator glasses? 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:33.480 I made you your own pair. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.800 Fantastic news for the both of us. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.600 Here you go, and off we head to the National 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.320 Mall in Washington, d C. Two thousand and four. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.200 Oh, what's it the big. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.400 Don't worry, we'll reappear momentarily. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:54.320 Here we are. Huh the teleportation sunglasses worked. By the way, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.719 what was that white void we passed through? 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.000 No clue, but I'm really hoping we never get stuff 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.279 in there anyway. Welcome to DC. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.120 Yes, it's so muggy here is it summer? 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.800 It's early fall? Actually, But people forget our nation's capital 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.200 was built on a swamp next to the Potomac River. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.839 The air is so soggy I can barely see where 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.920 we are. Oh. Also, the lenses on these sunglasses are 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:19.799 incredibly dark. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.120 Both true statements. I can barely see as well. But 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.080 I happen to know. We are a little less than 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.000 a mile from the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument, and 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:28.839 the White House. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.920 Coo, go go go, go go cool. But Gabe, who 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.640 is that ninety year old woman in that stunningly beautiful 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:40.320 ancestral Cherokee dress? And why is she leading that processional? 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.120 That's Mary Goldo Ross. I suppose I should have seen 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:44.599 that coming. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.080 And she's leading a procession of Indigenous people to celebrate 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.680 the opening of the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.520 That seems less obvious but makes perfect sense. Huh. If 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.560 she was chosen to lead the processional, she must be 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:00.599 pretty important. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.479 Her legacy, much like space, is immeasurable. She made a 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.720 massive impact in US history, Cherokee history, and the space race. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.840 Space race, you mean the competition between the US and 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.560 the Soviet Union to have superior spaceflight capabilities. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.480 That's the one, and Mary was right in the middle 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.560 of it. She was a brilliant mathematician specializing in aeronautics, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.000 so she helped write NASA's manuals for manned spaceflights, all 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.720 while being a proud Cherokee. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.840 This woman is awesome, And as someone who is hoping 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.760 to get into space herself, maybe we could back up 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.000 a bit and see how she got here. I'd love 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.400 to get away closer, look at some of her technical 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.520 know how. That way, maybe a certain podcast host can 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.760 try to get her rocket ship to take off. You 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:46.320 know what I mean. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.880 You will need to put your sunglasses back on. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:57.120 Ready, set tell apart, disappearing, passing through the weird white board, 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.680 and reappearing. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.240 Santa Fe, New Mexico in nineteen forty two. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:07.360 Ooh, it's hot, hair too, but dry as a sand sandwich. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.200 My lips are getting chapped just standing here. Let's head 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:11.239 inside that school. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.920 Oh wow, speaking of dry, look at that math equation. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.080 Mary golda Ross is riding on the chalkboard. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.720 Five Very good, pretty complicated stuff to be sure. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.640 All right, those kids were saved by the bell help? 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.640 But wait, is she helping that young woman after hours? 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.679 Indeed she is, because Mary was a math teacher and 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.360 advisor for Native American girls in Santa Fe, New Mexico. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.800 And now her classroom phone is ringing. This woman is busy. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.720 You have no idea. This is her literally answering the 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.360 call to help the nation in nineteen forty two, when 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:49.880 World War II broke out. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:53.040 How could a math teacher with a master's degree help 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.439 the nation during war? 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.880 First, she joined the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. Next, she used 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.520 math to keep fighter checks from falling apart while flying 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:02.880 close to the speed of sound. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.760 Sounds like we should speed to Lockheed Aircraft Corporation so 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.120 we can see her work first hand. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:16.360 To Lockheed in nineteen fifty seven. Ready, study teleport and. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.720 Our bodies are disappearing. A quick wave and the scary whiteboard. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.080 And now we're at Lockheed, finally a place with a 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.280 temporate climate. Gabe, is it just me? Or is Mary 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.640 the only woman here? 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.079 The only other woman was the secretary. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.400 And look at her tools. A slide ruler and the 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.880 world's largest calculator. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.199 That's called a freedom calculator. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.040 Verty amazing the things she worked on planes with these 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.960 totally old school tools. Hey, why is everyone at Lockheed 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.160 in such a huge hurry? 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:49.600 Remember they're in a. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.360 Race, a space race, right? But how did the space 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.400 race begin? Why was everyone suddenly so desperate to get 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:57.079 into space? 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.640 After World War Two, the United States and this Union 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.160 got into a heated competition called the Cold War, and 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.880 a big part of that struggle was over the control 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:07.520 of space. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.679 Gotcha, So everyone's eyes were on the. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.960 Stars, and in nineteen fifty seven, the Soviets launched the 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.920 first ever satellite into orbit, which was called Sputnick. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.679 So Mary and all her colleagues are trying to catch up. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.280 It was all hands on deck for US scientists, engineers, 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:30.160 and mathematicians. But eventually Mary went to NASA. Shall we 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:30.800 join her there? 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:31.800 On your marks? 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.280 Get set teleports. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:36.079 I'm terrifying. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:40.200 My god, I don't work here, but welcome to NASA. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:40.720 Oo. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.320 Look, Mary is over there. Let's go check out what 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.720 she's working on. See if maybe I can learn how 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.160 to get a spaceship in the air. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.280 Okay, but we should probably try not to be noticed 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.600 because most of what Mary's working on is top secret. 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.920 You're totally right, Gabe. It says top secret right on 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.760 top of the manual she's typing up. Oh. I feel 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.240 like we're in a spy. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.880 Movie from the looks of it. The thing that she's 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:09.040 working on is the operational requirements for a spacecraft. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.480 Jackpot, that's exactly what I need to get my spacecraft 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.120 into space. Just gonna write a couple things down. 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.280 That manual is an absolutely vital part of the Apollo program. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.640 And you see that pile of papers on her desk, Oh, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.040 that's gonna turn into NASA's Planetary Flight Handbook. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.240 Isn't that NASA's comprehensive guide to space travel? Sure is 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:36.559 bubble Jackpot just gonna take a couple more notes here, and. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.800 This report over here is full of preliminary concepts for 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.080 flights to Mars and Venus. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.080 Are you saying that Mary laid the groundwork for missions 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.680 that haven't yet come to fruition. I am Oh, she's 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.400 so cool. I love learning about cool people. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.640 You're not alone, which is why there's a sculpture of 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.120 her at Buffalo State College. Also, there's a painting by 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.120 Cherokee artist to America Meredith at the Smithsonian National Museum 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.760 of the American Indian that we have to go see 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.080 it better. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.440 Be her against a starry rocket filled sky. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.640 That is exactly what it is. How did you know that? 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.040 Good guess? Tward time. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.120 And we're back to the Smithsonian. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.960 Look, there's our painting, Merey Golde Ross in space. It's 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.600 absolutely stunning. Well, let's get closer. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:31.320 The painting is entitled ad Astra per Astra, which means 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.920 to the stars from the stars, and a reference to 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.199 a Cherokee origin story about how humans arrived on Earth 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.559 from the Pleiades. Let's take a closer look. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:46.000 Look at all this detail. Wow, this painting is packed 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.280 with symbolism. I actually know about this. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:49.400 Say more. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:54.280 Okay, First, there's this seven pointed star, which references the 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:59.360 seven Sisters constellation Bigo. Second you have the seven clans 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.000 of the Cherokee Bengo. And last you have got the 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:07.480 seven directions in Cherokee cosmology Bongo niminy. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.720 I had no idea. You knew all that. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.880 It's pretty amazing the stuff that will float around in 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.120 your noodle from high school history. But Gabe, what is 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.000 that spacecraft in the painting? 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.319 That is the agent a spacecraft? It was a versatile 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.640 American rocket and satellite bus used by NASA and the 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.080 US Air Force for tons of projects. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.880 Oh and look at this Marry quote below the painting. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.160 To function efficiently in today's world, you need math. The 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.959 world is so technical. If you plan to work in it, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.680 a math background will let you go farther and faster. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.880 She was truly an example of how important math is 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:43.640 for everyone. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.880 To be honest, I didn't realize how important math is 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.240 and making so many big things happen in the real world. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.360 I kind of feel my way through a lot in life. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.000 Nimity, Can I ask you were you using any math 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.040 to try to record a song in space? 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:03.679 Absolutely? Rocket ship plus one song equals one space song. Oh, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.960 I realized now it was a little simple. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.400 I admire your gumption and it got you on your way. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.680 True, and now thanks to Mary, I have got the 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.600 goods and I am ready to try again. Speaking of which, 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:16.960 are you ready to head back home? 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.200 Actually, I'm going to teleport into the White Void? 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.240 What what game? It's so endless and blank. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.680 Trust me, I know, but seeing how fearless Mary Golder 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.880 Ross was made me realize it was time to face 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:31.800 my fears. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.520 Well, good luck with that game. I obviously want the 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.480 full report. As for me, I'm headed back to the 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.600 book activate teleport. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:49.920 Bye, Who I am back in the here and now 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.600 da come take a look at these notes I took. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.280 I have some serious improvements on the construction and operation 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:03.280 of our rocket ship. Yeah, I know, pretty smart stuff, right? 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:11.920 Can you make these changes? Fantastic? And while they are 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.600 working on the rocket ship, I'm gonna go ahead and 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.480 get in my space suit. I'll see. It's probably for 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.800 the best. We didn't actually get into space last time. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.440 We didn't even have a proper protocol. I'm in and 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.520 now that I am suited up, I am going to 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:37.080 go ahead and get inside. Welcome. Thanks robot voice. Wow, 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.760 it is starting to look good in here, Tina. What's 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:41.600 the word. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:43.280 That was? 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.600 Quick? I suppose when you're not guessing how to build 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:51.000 a spaceship, it's a lot easier. Huh. Well, thanks to 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.480 Marry Golda Ross for straightening out our space aspirations and 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.760 making this possible. Robot boys, let's get this thing going 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.920 and seconds. Listeners, we are about to make some history 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.640 by making music about some history and featuring one of 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.120 today's special guests, Crystal. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.000 Life Nice four three two ones. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:36.520 I go by the name of Mary Golda Ross, aka 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:42.480 the first known Native American female aerospace engineer. I am 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:47.520 a mathematician, I am a Cherokee, and I am a trailblazer. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:48.920 Here we go. 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.320 I was born in Oklahoma nineteen o eight, a small 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.000 town called park Hill, where life wasn't so great. But 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.960 from a very early age I showed a growth rate 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.080 at learning to compute the count and cold. Late I 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.360 had a mind for math, and I got math in 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.120 my mind. But for Native girls, you'll find it wasn't 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.480 a good time. But I'm a great grand child of 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.800 a charity teacher, so inside of me a healthless belief. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.200 Those around me, they often agreed, spend my next few 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.960 years with their help in pursuit of my dreams. Knowledge. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.480 I sought it college with plots, math class, I taught 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:24.439 it masters. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:25.080 I got it. 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.760 But after the next chapter of my biography, one in 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.480 which the prodigy in geometry wants to honestly, you are 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.120 astronomer me. But misogyny in the field means the quantity 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.160 of females that's near zero. 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:39.000 It's hard to. 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.720 See a past if you can't see a hero. So 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.840 we rode back to a reservation. I worked in education. 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.919 Maybe my dream was dead and then instead for the 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:49.040 next generation. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.080 I never know where my path please plot. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:54.440 I solved all my problems. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:59.040 I got math, leats, married gold plus remember me check 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.679 my legacy engineer and Cherokee. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.800 I did I advise the kids right? But I felt 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.360 I never ever really get that big life. But then 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.240 Germany starts picking a big fight and my world changes 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.000 quick overnight. You might not know, but in World War Two, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.560 men were overseas siegings, so the girls would do new 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.600 jobs that before would never hurt towards you. A new 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.879 world soars through and un worlds for you. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.440 So what saw the sign? 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.119 Search for the sign and the coast sign. I headed 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.720 for the coastline to lock Heed on a course I 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:33.439 was charged. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.880 And if you didn't and a few I was starting. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:41.119 At the job I always wanted doing aeronautics, making military 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.359 places start silivery and Rocky Silent. Had that money in 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.640 my pockets on a trade with Nope, stopping within the 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:48.720 war stops. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.000 And then the men came home. So then I. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.480 Didn't know if they let me stop that work any more. 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.800 Once again, every bosses at a cross roads, at a 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:03.480 lost or where the oh no, I never know where 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:04.040 my path. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.400 Please plut ourselves all my problems. I am Mattheleas married 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.720 gold that plus remember me check my legacy engineer and 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:23.639 Cherokee squeeze. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:28.200 Make them say, take a girl multiplier with some passion 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.399 and action, attract all distraction, added a little traction and 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.199 a fraction, a fashion and a glass ceiling. 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.119 Would you get the answer? 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.000 Risk Mary Ross? And if they would have said you 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.840 can't do Matthew read anymore, I'd be very cross. That 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.919 would be a scary thought because my mind absorbing all 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.200 these facts like the water, and my brain is made 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.720 of terry cloth. Yes, what I was so good that 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.399 they kept me here, pay for me to train again 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.840 to be an engineer, say for twenty plus years, earn 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.720 my pension here, and did even more things than I 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.520 can mentioned here. Most of it is classified. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:03.720 What's the fights to say? 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.760 You got Mary Russ the thing for your flights? Today 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.760 only woman in the room where the fellas is with 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:14.560 the Melandine helping their new text development and writing manuals 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:18.480 for the skunk Works. And after I retired, I'm inspiring 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.840 the young squirts, helping kids who look like me do 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.719 what I did, be a hero so they could dream. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:36.840 Beg Jesus, Jesus, make him say. 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:40.240 Jesus. 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.240 We'll be right back after a few words for the 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:18.879 grown ups. Landing in the three two ones, A flawless 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.679 re entry and landing. I sure am glad to be 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.439 back home. Now, let me just push the button to 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:26.960 open the spaceship door. 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:29.960 Raccoons, We did it. 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:36.800 We recorded a song in space. Yea, how she did it? Yeah? 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:38.560 First you had to record. 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:42.000 A song edge first, Hey, it's my high fan Phil. 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:46.760 Oh, yeah, Phil's here here in person and the spirit. 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:51.520 Well, thanks to everyone for being my welcome committee, Phil, Tina, 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.679 other nameless Raccoons. When I was recording that absolute smash 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.800 hit of a tune in Deep Space, I realized something 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.359 you did. Now you should tell us spill the fat. 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.600 I realized I use math all the time in music. 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:11.439 Music and math are like time and space, inextricably tied. 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:18.320 Same all. Phil doesn't get it yet, think about it, Phil. Rhythms, patterns, intervals, scales, 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.560 the notations of a composer communicate the sounds that a 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:27.080 musician needs to make. It all involves maths. Music is man, 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:32.720 and word is grateful exactly. Oh now, everyone, if you'll 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.640 excuse me, my space mission went a touch too long 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.040 and I have to head to my interview. 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.600 Stat Wait, nmity, I have a question. 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.480 What is it, Phil, And why do you suddenly sound 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.000 so earnest? Can you send me into space? 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.520 I'm really excited for you, but I'm also extremely jealous. 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.639 It was my childhood dream calling a mission to space. 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.640 I honestly just stumbled into this whole highbad thing, which 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.159 is great, don't get me wrong, but space that was 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:00.160 my first love. 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.800 Phil I'm so glad you said something. I'd be thrilled 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.280 to lend you my rocket ship really under one condition, 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.600