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Speaker 1: In honor of Women's History Month, when Fridays, we'll be

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Speaker 1: releasing episodes of historical Records. My new podcast with the

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Speaker 1: story Pirates, is an explosive fusion of hip hop and history,

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Speaker 1: tailor made for music loving kids and families, a podcast

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Speaker 1: the entire family can listen to and enjoy together. In

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Speaker 1: today's episode, Niminy heads to out of Space to make

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Speaker 1: a brand new hip hop track about Mary Golden Ross,

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Speaker 1: the very first Native American female aerospace engineer. We hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy Historical Records, the show that proves in order

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Speaker 1: to make history, you have to make some noise.

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Speaker 2: Rah today another hour.

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Speaker 3: We don't have that kind of time. Tina, the spaceship

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Speaker 3: is scheduled to blast off in one minute. One minute,

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Speaker 3: ll LOUNDI look, Tina, I don't care if my face

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Speaker 3: is on the outside anymore, so long as it flies

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Speaker 3: through space. Forget my gorgeous exterior design. Just make sure

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Speaker 3: we have a sturdy vessel.

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Speaker 1: Tina's gonna drive, But the time in his night, Tina's

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Speaker 1: gotta move.

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Speaker 3: Last fill the hype man gets it, Raccoons, Let's fire

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Speaker 3: up Dan Jacob. Hey, listeners, as you can likely tell,

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Speaker 3: you caught me at a pretty tense moment. I am

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Speaker 3: sitting inside a homemade rocket and am about to launch

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Speaker 3: into space. Why are we doing this well, Tina, I

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Speaker 3: am determined to be the first person in history to

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Speaker 3: record a song in space. Oh. I got the idea

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Speaker 3: from today's hero. I don't know that much about her,

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Speaker 3: but Mary Golda Ross is a NASA legend and it

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Speaker 3: got me thinking about space. Okay, and second till last, Tina,

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Speaker 3: please tell me we're ready. I'm just, you know, about

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Speaker 3: to get blasted into the great unknown and need to

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Speaker 3: know the rocket. It's good to go? Good? Oh, this

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Speaker 3: is gotta it close? Yes, you did it? Records. Here

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Speaker 3: we go. Three till one flap. That didn't sound good.

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Speaker 3: It almost sounded like the engine exploded. Okay, that definitely

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Speaker 3: sounded like the engine exploded.

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Speaker 4: It's historical records.

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Speaker 3: You are now listening to historical were To make history,

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Speaker 3: you got to have struggles to make history. You got

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Speaker 3: to show poised, cannot be quiet loud as the riot.

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Speaker 3: To make history, you gotta make some noise. Hi, listeners,

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Speaker 3: Niminy here welcoming you back to historical records. As you know,

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Speaker 3: this is the show where I spearhead daring experiments that

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Speaker 3: combine history and hip hop. Unfortunately, we are all to

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Speaker 3: a bad start today because the spaceship mostly built by

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Speaker 3: my raccoon assistance exploded. That's true, Tina, it was not

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Speaker 3: all your fault. It was mostly your fault. Anyway, Listeners,

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Speaker 3: the good news is that today's historic figure knows a

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Speaker 3: lot about spaceships. So I am really hoping to get

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Speaker 3: some inspiration or even directly snack some first hand space knowledge.

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Speaker 3: Let's head to the library to find my historian Gape.

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Speaker 3: What is that zaploys about Himine Gabe book, You just

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Speaker 3: appeared from nowhere.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I appeared from somewhere. I teleported here from the beach.

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Speaker 3: Is that why you're wearing those Neon red aviator sunglasses?

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Speaker 5: No, that's why I'm wearing these flippers. These sunglasses are

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Speaker 5: my new history simulator.

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Speaker 3: How futuristic and practical.

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Speaker 5: Indeed, I realized that if I could just figure out

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Speaker 5: how to teleport our body through space, then we wouldn't

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Speaker 5: need some big honking machine to get us around. We

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Speaker 5: could just appear anywhere in history without causing a stir.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you figured out how teleportation works.

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Speaker 5: It took me all weekend, which was pretty annoying, but

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Speaker 5: I got there. Eventually. Turns out it's all just math.

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Speaker 3: Since one has one of my historians become a math expert.

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Speaker 5: History is my area of expertise, but math, math is

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Speaker 5: my passion. Everybody needs a hobby, Niminy, I feel like

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Speaker 5: I'm learning a.

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Speaker 3: Lot about you today. But wait, gate teleportation just moves

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Speaker 3: people from place to place. History simulators don't just need

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Speaker 3: to be able to move through space, they also need

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Speaker 5: I was nervous about that too, but luckily time and

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Speaker 5: space are inextricably tied together, so we should be able

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Speaker 3: How does that work?

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Speaker 5: Time is just a line, hence the phrase timeline. That

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Speaker 3: Do, But you're really surprising me today with this expert

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm a very different Gabe than I was yesterday,

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Speaker 5: and a very different game than I'll be tomorrow. That is,

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Speaker 5: if everything goes according to plan, you know, Niminy, Change

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Speaker 3: Ain't that the truth? Now?

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Speaker 5: Shall we zap our way straight into the life of

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Speaker 5: Mary Golde Ross?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? But Gabe, how am I supposed to get around?

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Speaker 3: If you're the one wearing the history simulator glasses?

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Speaker 5: I made you your own pair.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic news for the both of us.

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Speaker 5: Here you go, and off we head to the National

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Speaker 3: Oh, what's it the big.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry, we'll reappear momentarily.

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Speaker 3: Here we are. Huh the teleportation sunglasses worked. By the way,

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Speaker 3: what was that white void we passed through?

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Speaker 5: No clue, but I'm really hoping we never get stuff

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's so muggy here is it summer?

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Speaker 5: It's early fall? Actually, But people forget our nation's capital

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Speaker 3: The air is so soggy I can barely see where

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Speaker 5: Both true statements. I can barely see as well. But

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Speaker 3: Coo, go go go, go go cool. But Gabe, who

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Speaker 3: is that ninety year old woman in that stunningly beautiful

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Speaker 3: ancestral Cherokee dress? And why is she leading that processional?

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Speaker 3: That's Mary Goldo Ross. I suppose I should have seen

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Speaker 5: And she's leading a procession of Indigenous people to celebrate

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Speaker 3: That seems less obvious but makes perfect sense. Huh. If

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Speaker 3: pretty important.

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Speaker 5: Her legacy, much like space, is immeasurable. She made a

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Speaker 5: massive impact in US history, Cherokee history, and the space race.

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Speaker 3: Space race, you mean the competition between the US and

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Speaker 5: That's the one, and Mary was right in the middle

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Speaker 5: so she helped write NASA's manuals for manned spaceflights, all

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Speaker 5: while being a proud Cherokee.

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Speaker 3: This woman is awesome, And as someone who is hoping

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Speaker 3: try to get her rocket ship to take off. You

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Speaker 5: You will need to put your sunglasses back on.

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Speaker 6: Ready, set tell apart, disappearing, passing through the weird white board,

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Speaker 5: Santa Fe, New Mexico in nineteen forty two.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, it's hot, hair too, but dry as a sand sandwich.

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Speaker 5: My lips are getting chapped just standing here. Let's head

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, speaking of dry, look at that math equation.

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Speaker 3: Mary golda Ross is riding on the chalkboard.

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Speaker 5: Five Very good, pretty complicated stuff to be sure.

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Speaker 3: All right, those kids were saved by the bell help?

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Speaker 3: But wait, is she helping that young woman after hours?

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Speaker 5: Indeed she is, because Mary was a math teacher and

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Speaker 3: And now her classroom phone is ringing. This woman is busy.

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Speaker 5: You have no idea. This is her literally answering the

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Speaker 3: How could a math teacher with a master's degree help

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Speaker 5: First, she joined the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation. Next, she used

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Speaker 3: Sounds like we should speed to Lockheed Aircraft Corporation so

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Speaker 5: To Lockheed in nineteen fifty seven. Ready, study teleport and.

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Speaker 3: Our bodies are disappearing. A quick wave and the scary whiteboard.

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Speaker 3: And now we're at Lockheed, finally a place with a

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Speaker 5: The only other woman was the secretary.

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Speaker 3: And look at her tools. A slide ruler and the

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Speaker 5: That's called a freedom calculator.

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Speaker 3: Verty amazing the things she worked on planes with these

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Speaker 3: totally old school tools. Hey, why is everyone at Lockheed

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Speaker 5: Remember they're in a.

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Speaker 3: Race, a space race, right? But how did the space

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Speaker 5: After World War Two, the United States and this Union

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, So everyone's eyes were on the.

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Speaker 5: Stars, and in nineteen fifty seven, the Soviets launched the

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Speaker 3: So Mary and all her colleagues are trying to catch up.

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Speaker 5: It was all hands on deck for US scientists, engineers,

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Speaker 5: and mathematicians. But eventually Mary went to NASA. Shall we

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Speaker 3: On your marks?

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Speaker 5: Get set teleports.

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Speaker 3: I'm terrifying.

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Speaker 5: My god, I don't work here, but welcome to NASA.

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Speaker 3: Look, Mary is over there. Let's go check out what

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Speaker 3: she's working on. See if maybe I can learn how

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Speaker 3: to get a spaceship in the air.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but we should probably try not to be noticed

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Speaker 5: because most of what Mary's working on is top secret.

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Speaker 3: You're totally right, Gabe. It says top secret right on

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Speaker 3: top of the manual she's typing up. Oh. I feel

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Speaker 3: like we're in a spy.

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Speaker 5: Movie from the looks of it. The thing that she's

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Speaker 5: working on is the operational requirements for a spacecraft.

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Speaker 3: Jackpot, that's exactly what I need to get my spacecraft

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Speaker 3: into space. Just gonna write a couple things down.

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Speaker 5: That manual is an absolutely vital part of the Apollo program.

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Speaker 5: And you see that pile of papers on her desk, Oh,

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Speaker 5: that's gonna turn into NASA's Planetary Flight Handbook.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that NASA's comprehensive guide to space travel? Sure is

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Speaker 3: bubble Jackpot just gonna take a couple more notes here, and.

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Speaker 5: This report over here is full of preliminary concepts for

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Speaker 3: Are you saying that Mary laid the groundwork for missions

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Speaker 3: that haven't yet come to fruition. I am Oh, she's

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Speaker 3: so cool. I love learning about cool people.

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Speaker 5: You're not alone, which is why there's a sculpture of

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Speaker 5: of the American Indian that we have to go see

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Speaker 5: That is exactly what it is. How did you know that?

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Speaker 5: The painting is entitled ad Astra per Astra, which means

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Speaker 5: That is the agent a spacecraft? It was a versatile

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Speaker 3: Oh and look at this Marry quote below the painting.

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Speaker 5: She was truly an example of how important math is

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I didn't realize how important math is

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Speaker 5: Nimity, Can I ask you were you using any math

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Rocket ship plus one song equals one space song. Oh,

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Speaker 5: I admire your gumption and it got you on your way.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I'm going to teleport into the White Void?

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Speaker 3: What what game? It's so endless and blank.

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Speaker 5: Trust me, I know, but seeing how fearless Mary Golder

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Speaker 3: Well, good luck with that game. I obviously want the

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Speaker 8: Bye, Who I am back in the here and now

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Speaker 3: I have some serious improvements on the construction and operation

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Speaker 3: it is starting to look good in here, Tina. What's

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Speaker 7: That was?

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Speaker 3: Quick? I suppose when you're not guessing how to build

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Speaker 9: Life Nice four three two ones.

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Speaker 10: I go by the name of Mary Golda Ross, aka

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Speaker 5: Here we go.

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Speaker 10: I was born in Oklahoma nineteen o eight, a small

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Speaker 10: Those around me, they often agreed, spend my next few

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Speaker 10: I sought it college with plots, math class, I taught

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Speaker 3: I got it.

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Speaker 10: But after the next chapter of my biography, one in

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Speaker 10: which the prodigy in geometry wants to honestly, you are

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Speaker 3: It's hard to.

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Speaker 10: See a past if you can't see a hero. So

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Speaker 9: I never know where my path please plot.

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Speaker 3: I solved all my problems.

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Speaker 9: I got math, leats, married gold plus remember me check

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Speaker 10: I did I advise the kids right? But I felt

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Speaker 3: So what saw the sign?

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Speaker 10: Search for the sign and the coast sign. I headed

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Speaker 10: At the job I always wanted doing aeronautics, making military

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Speaker 3: And then the men came home. So then I.

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Speaker 10: Didn't know if they let me stop that work any more.

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Speaker 9: Please plut ourselves all my problems. I am Mattheleas married

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Speaker 10: Make them say, take a girl multiplier with some passion

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Speaker 3: Would you get the answer?

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Speaker 10: Risk Mary Ross? And if they would have said you

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Speaker 10: can't do Matthew read anymore, I'd be very cross. That

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Speaker 10: to be an engineer, say for twenty plus years, earn

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Speaker 3: What's the fights to say?

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Speaker 10: You got Mary Russ the thing for your flights? Today

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Speaker 4: Beg Jesus, Jesus, make him say.

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Speaker 8: Jesus.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after a few words for the

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Speaker 3: grown ups. Landing in the three two ones, A flawless

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Speaker 5: Raccoons, We did it.

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Speaker 3: We recorded a song in space. Yea, how she did it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: First you had to record.

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Speaker 3: A song edge first, Hey, it's my high fan Phil.

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Speaker 11: Oh, yeah, Phil's here here in person and the spirit.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks to everyone for being my welcome committee, Phil, Tina,

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Speaker 3: Same all. Phil doesn't get it yet, think about it, Phil. Rhythms, patterns, intervals, scales,

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Speaker 3: and word is grateful exactly. Oh now, everyone, if you'll

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Speaker 5: Stat Wait, nmity, I have a question.

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Speaker 3: What is it, Phil, And why do you suddenly sound

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Speaker 11: I'm really excited for you, but I'm also extremely jealous.

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Speaker 12: I honestly just stumbled into this whole highbad thing, which

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Speaker 3: Phil I'm so glad you said something. I'd be thrilled

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, space man, combining my job.

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Speaker 2: And my.

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Speaker 3: Tina please help fill into space. Thanks team, and now

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Speaker 3: Please welcome Christina and Vivian.

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Speaker 8: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Please introduce yourselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eh sha Christina Helona Yisha sitting on Jenny Inishai

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Speaker 12: Hi.

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Speaker 2: My name is Christina Helna and I am of the

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Speaker 2: Black Streak Wood People Clan born for the Folded Arms

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Speaker 2: I am the Interio's Rocket Systems engineering program manager at NORTHFORLK.

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Speaker 2: Grumman Corporation in Chandler, Arizona.

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Speaker 12: Hi.

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Speaker 7: My name is Vivian. I am eight years old. I

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to have both of you here. Let's

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Speaker 7: How do you know you wanted to be an engineer?

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Speaker 12: Great question, Vivian.

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Speaker 2: I actually knew I wanted to be an internet at

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Speaker 2: want to do that.

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Speaker 7: What does it feel like to be an engineer?

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Speaker 2: Well, Vivian, it actually feels pretty amazing, you know, especially

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Speaker 2: as a Native American woman. There's not many of us

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Speaker 2: in the STEM field. You know, Mary Ross was the

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Speaker 2: very first Native American engineer at Lockheed and just in

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Speaker 2: general in the world. And you know, I just kind

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Speaker 2: of use her path. She would worked very hard to

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Speaker 2: get where she was and she was making great waved

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Speaker 2: links to do what she loved and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: do the same. And how she inspired individuals Native Americans

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Speaker 2: alight like myself to pursue a STEM degree. She was

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Speaker 2: definitely someone I looked up to and I'm hoping I'm

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Speaker 2: able to inspire others as well, just telling the young

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Speaker 2: Indigenous kids out there that they can do anything they want.

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Speaker 2: They can be an engineer like myself and Mary Ross.

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Speaker 3: Mary Ross is so inspirational. Can you tell us a

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Speaker 3: little more about what she worked on, Christina.

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Speaker 12: She worked on very different projects.

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Speaker 2: One of them you might not be aware with, Vivian

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Speaker 2: because you're so young, is the skunk Works project at

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Speaker 2: Lackey Martin. Then they did a lot of classified projects

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Speaker 2: what they called skunk Works. The bomber there, the really

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Speaker 2: quiet airplane that makes no noise when it's flying up above.

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Speaker 2: Like she gets to tried to work up really cool

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Speaker 2: projects like that. She was amazing what.

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Speaker 7: Was your favorite thing in school?

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Speaker 2: Sciences was actually my favorite, just because you got to

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Speaker 2: do a little bit of everything. And then what got

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Speaker 2: me really interested in what I'm doing right now as

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Speaker 2: an engineer in general is learning about physics and working

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Speaker 2: on bottle rockets and the Newton's laws and all that craziness.

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Speaker 2: Growing up, you know, I also like arts and crafts too,

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Speaker 2: which is a little bit different than a little bit

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Speaker 2: different than my engineering background. But you know, growing up,

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Speaker 2: I used to watch my grandmother and grandparents leave rugs,

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Speaker 2: so they had to use actually math too to do

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Speaker 2: that and figure out how the rug weaving would go,

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Speaker 2: how the patterns would look like, and to have to

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Speaker 2: think about that ahead of time. My grandparents also did

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Speaker 2: a lot of drawings and pottery, and so seeing that

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Speaker 2: as a child kind of made me appreciate the arts

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Speaker 2: a little bit too.

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Speaker 3: Oh, your grandparents sound really talented, Vivian. You're interested in

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Speaker 3: art too.

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Speaker 7: Right, I think I like drawing.

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Speaker 12: What do you like to draw?

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Speaker 7: Sometimes I just draw Star Wars?

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Speaker 12: Oh? You like Star Wars? What's your favorite character?

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Speaker 7: M Arto D two?

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Speaker 12: You know what so do?

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Speaker 2: I I love R two D two and CP three

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Speaker 2: to Zho I call them their besties because they're always together.

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Speaker 3: Hey, now that I think about it, R two, D

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Speaker 3: two and C three PO were probably built by engineers.

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Speaker 3: Thank you both for joining me today.

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Speaker 12: Been up so nice to meet you.

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Speaker 7: Nice to meet you too, Thank you, Christina, Bye, Thank

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Speaker 7: you bye, listeners.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me today for our space epic. Pretty amazing.

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Speaker 3: We made it so far into space and back, well,

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Speaker 3: almost all of us. I still haven't heard from Gabe. Gabe,

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Speaker 3: you're back and right on time. Hey, Nimity, How was

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Speaker 3: the infinite White Void?

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Speaker 5: Very intimidating at first and then very calming?

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Speaker 3: Calming?

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Speaker 5: Turns out a place without time and space can be

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Speaker 5: pretty chill. Nowhere to be no time crunch for anything.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure I spent years there.

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Speaker 3: Oh, but you mention it. You are glowing slightly.

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Speaker 5: Also, it was hard to sleep because it was so bright,

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Speaker 5: So I think I'm gonna go lay down.

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Speaker 3: Totally nice to catch up and hear about your mind

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Speaker 3: bending adventure, listeners, real talk before we dive into Mary's

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Speaker 3: legac See, I had no idea math played such a

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Speaker 3: big role in my life. Are there ways that math

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Speaker 3: plays a big role in your daily lives? I'd love

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Speaker 3: to know anyway A huge thanks to today's guests Vivian,

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Speaker 3: Crystal and Christina Remember parents and teachers. You can download

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Speaker 3: a free activity related to today's episode by visiting story

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Speaker 3: pirates dot com. Slash Historical Records and I can't wait

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Speaker 3: to go on another adventure with you all very soon.

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Speaker 3: Until next time it's face. Don't forget to make history.

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Speaker 3: You gotta make some noise and possibly explode a spaceship

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Speaker 3: engine or two bye.

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Speaker 11: and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson.

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Speaker 11: Sound designed and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic

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Speaker 11: Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Gerson and produced

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Speaker 11: was written by Dan Foster and Niminy Ware and produced

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Speaker 11: by Jack Mitchell. Additional recording at Red Room Studios in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

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Speaker 11: Special guests Crystal Lightning, Christina Helona and Kid interviewer Vivian.

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Speaker 11: Lee Overtree, and Gabe Pacheco. Special thanks to David Kerns

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Speaker 11: and Joey Clift.