1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: I love that you said you'll let me lead. As 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: if I don't do that every week, you can take 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: this one. Oh gee, thanks. Welcome to the Velvet Edge podcast, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Chip Doors to your host and sometimes friend Kelly, sometimes 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: friend now shot fire. Yeah that came out wrong. But 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: it's early in the morning for us, we're not quite awake. 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: This is This is the interesting thing about recording in 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: the morning, Like I'm awake, Like this is the time 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: of day that I would be awake every other day 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: or whatever. But to actually be on to record a 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: podcast feels like something different. Doesn't feel like you're asking 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: a lot of yourself right now, Yeah, because it's like, 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: not only does your brain have to work, but like 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: it also has to travel to your mouth and come home. 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I just took my third sip of 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: coffee because it's too hot to drink when you first 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: make it. So so we don't know what's about to happen. 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Is the trigger warning? Yeah, So this is a little 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: bit different this week because we usually have a system 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: on the Edge where the second week of the month 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: is our Love, Dating, Sex Relationships podcast where we have 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: an expert come in and answer you guys questions about 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: all of those topics that will still happen this month. Um. 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: We because of the topic of gun laws that we 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: brought up last week, We've actually been working on some 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: really cool interviews that I'm really excited about. I know 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: you are two chip, but um because of that, we 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: have pushed the dates on some of our recordings because 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: we're trying to get them all lined up so that 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: you guys can get the amazing conversations that we think 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: we're going to have coming up. With all of that said, 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: there's also another topic we really wanted to discuss this 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: month because it's Gay Pride Month. Happy Gay Pride Ship. 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: Can you say it to me even if I'm not gay, 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: because because I'm celebrating theory, you're celebrating to Okay, ay, 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: I am an ally go gays gays. Um. So anyway, 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about that, not because we kind 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: of think it's silly sometimes, uh, that it's just a 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: month designated just like it's like why is there um 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: black you know, Awareness Month or or what are the 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: other ones? Women's Independent Women? What is it cud of 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Morning's International Women internationally? Yeah, or maybe it's a day 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: but it's like why is that being celebrated on a 44 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: day or a month, or like, isn't that something we 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: should do three six every day all year long? And um, 46 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: we sort of sort of have issues with that. For 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: that reason, however, I didn't want to go the whole 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: month without acknowledging gay pride, like it feels weird to 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: also not acknowledge it. So it was something that you 50 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: and I both decided we wanted to discuss, and we 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it in a way that registers 52 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: with us, which is sort of what I just said, 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: also tied into like just having pride in general and 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: your own self. Yeah. I mean, look, I obviously am 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: a fan of gay pride because I think the ability 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: is really important. But I do think it's like, you know, 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that we celebrate for a 58 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: small window of time, and I think it's important that 59 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: all of those things are celebrated because they need visibility. 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: But I think the problem with it, and we touched 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: on this last year around this time of year, is 62 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: that it gives license to people to feel like they 63 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: can just forget about it when it's not those months. 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I think a great example of black 65 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: lives matter, Like it took Black History months and made 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: it something that like we can talk about on a 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: daily basis. And granted it's you know, they're kind of 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: different things, but it's it's visibility to the people of 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: color and making them um seen and important and visible 70 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: every single day. And um, you know, it's not uh 71 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: fun the cops movement, it is as yeah, I mean 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: it's partly that, you know, for good reason, but it's 73 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: also like it's it should serve as a reminder to 74 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: all of us that, like, every single person on this 75 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: earth is valid, is important, um, no matter what the 76 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: shape of their body is, what the color of their 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: skin is, who they love like any of that stuff, 78 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: And every single day we all deserved the right to 79 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: roll out of bed and be happy for who we are. 80 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: So as much as I love Pride Month, it drives 81 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: me fucking crazy that it ends on, you know, July one, 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: because you see it with corporations, they take the liberty 83 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: to try and tap into and market um to an 84 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: audience um in that month that they then just don't do. 85 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: And that's a blanket statement because some do you know, 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: like some um you know are great brands that recognize 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: people for people. And but you know, a lot of 88 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: a lot of corporations like glom Onto this month and 89 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: suddenly everything's rainbow and and and you know, I'm sort 90 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: of talking out both sides of my mouth here. I 91 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: also think it's really important that they grant that visibility. 92 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Um And I'm not saying that they should have rainbows 93 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: on things percent of the time. Um So, but you know, 94 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: I do think it's like for people who are on 95 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: the receiving ends of all of these special months or 96 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: weeks or days, like, I think it's important to remember 97 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: that you're so much more than that week, that month, 98 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: that day. Right. In some weird way, as you were talking, 99 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, it's almost like we're promoting 100 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the inequality even more by celebrating it for a month, 101 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: because we're like, hey, you're not equal to you know, 102 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: a white man that gets celebrated every day, and so 103 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: we'll just celebrate you for just this month, right, And 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: it also opens the door for the white man to 105 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: be like, well, why don't we have straight pride months, 106 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: We don't we have white history months? Why don't we 107 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: have all? Because motherfucker's that's every fucking day of the year. 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: And so my point is, why don't we get every 109 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: day of the year, right, you know, why is it 110 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: every day International Women's Day? Because it is so um 111 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: you know. So to me when we were talking about 112 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: this topic today, are like talking about what we're gonna 113 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: talk to day, I was like, you know, because I 114 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: need to check myself, Like I, um, I was thinking 115 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: about this in the shower, like one of the things 116 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: that and this kind of touches on what we just 117 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: you're thinking about, you know, like day Pride podcast, it's 118 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: the whole another turn shower version. Um. You know, being 119 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: gay is one piece of what I am, you know, 120 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: and so it's like, of course I have pride in 121 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: the fact that that's part of my identity, but I'm 122 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: a million things I want people to think of. Is 123 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: oh Chip, that gay guy, you know, like of course, like, 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: oh Chip, he's gay, and he's also works in music 125 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: and a great friend and a good son and all 126 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: of the things. He loves boxers, um, you know, the 127 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: dog not yeah, not the sport, the dogs. But um, 128 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: you know it's to me when I when Gay Pride 129 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Month rolls around, like I don't participate a ton because 130 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: it it plays into my fear of people only thinking 131 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: about me as gay. Well, think about it. I don't 132 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: show up at work and people go, there's Kelly, the 133 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: heterosexual woman, like nobody talks about it, right, so, and 134 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: and also you know, the what what the general public 135 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: ends up seeing for gay pride celebrations are the loudest 136 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: and the proudest and the most flagrant examples of UM 137 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: people who are in attendance because A it's fun, it's boisterous, 138 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: it's usually quite artful. UM. But I also think it 139 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: feeds into their fear of what gay people are because 140 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: gay people look like everybody. They're not just drag queens 141 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: and big boisterous people covered in like feathers or people 142 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: wearing nothing like this is. You know, those people are 143 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: taking the moment and like really using it for like 144 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: what it is, and they're going big and they're like 145 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: they're embracing them that moment, like today is about me 146 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be me. And you know it might 147 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: be John the accountant in your company that like suddenly 148 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: is painted and is covered in glitter and is wearing 149 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: a phone, Like really that expression it is so fun 150 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: and so beautiful, but it would be like equating for 151 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: a Louisianian Mardi Gras to everydayly thing, like it's literally 152 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: that is the thing and a lot hall Halloween, right, Like, 153 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't fully represent what, um, it looks like to 154 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: live a life as a gay person, like on a 155 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: day to day It might for some po which is fine, 156 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: but I think in a way and the point that 157 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: I was going to make is like, in a way, 158 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: when that is what gets picked up in the media 159 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: and is the most on display, it it scares a 160 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: lot of people and it's not a pure representation of 161 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: a of a of a wider community. And so you know, 162 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: for me, cramming it all into a month and forcing 163 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: us to celebrate in that way under a microscope has 164 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: some negative impact. Yeah, And and you know I say 165 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: all of this very carefully because I don't only get 166 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: probably a month ago away like I think, I think 167 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: we all deserve it. Um. I just would like to 168 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: see it become twelve months, in the same way that 169 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: I would like to see Black History Month one month, 170 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: International Women's Day, fuck be a month. God give us 171 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: a month at least, Jesus. I mean you all did 172 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: birth us, right, you guys wouldn't be here every every 173 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: year Women's Day, you know, like, you know what's funny 174 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: is why do we celebrate the person who was born 175 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: on the birthday when it was the mom who did 176 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: all the work and the poor moms man moms have 177 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: it the hardest. I really believe that. Yeah, it's interesting. 178 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: So I looked up the definition of pride because you 179 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: and I were talking about it in the way of 180 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: if it's not a month, which you know, we do 181 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: want to celebrate, and so there is that that uh god, 182 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: words are so hard at There is that balance between 183 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: like you don't want something to go away, but it's 184 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: also like and I wanted to be celebrated every day 185 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: of the year and not be just put into this box. 186 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: And so we're really kind of battling that. But we 187 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: started discussing just pride in general and how the ultimate 188 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: goal really truly is for you to be okay with 189 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: yourself and to celebrate yourself every single day, no matter 190 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: what your sexual orientation, no matter your gender, no matter 191 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: your color, no matter anything like that, no matter your politics, 192 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. It's this this relationship with 193 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: yourself that becomes about really accepting and loving who you 194 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,479 Speaker 1: truly are. Um, And so I looked up the definition 195 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: of pride, and it's a deep a feeling of deep 196 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements 197 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: of those who with whom one is closely associated, or 198 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: from qualities or possessions that are widely admired. And the 199 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: interesting thing I thought about that definition is there is 200 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: still this like stigma put around pride that has to 201 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: be about being admired externally? Did you notice that? And 202 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: that is like so where I think we're missing it, 203 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: especially the thing about like widely what bidly admired? Why? 204 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: Why is there an external definition of pride? I thought 205 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: that was weird to the second definition that I read 206 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: was consciousness of one's own dignity, and that actually really 207 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: resonated with me a lot more. Yeah, yeah, but they 208 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: but then those sentence that they used after that was um, 209 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: he didn't let his pride get in the way. So 210 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: it's almost like a negative connotation, and I'm like, wait 211 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: a second, I feel like we're missing this, and I 212 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: feel like as a greater whole right now, this is 213 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: actually can tie into so many more things than simply 214 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: gay Pride goes for so many different variables about us 215 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: as humans not fully accepting ourselves, or if we stay 216 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: we figure out who we are, we assume everyone else 217 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: needs to live that way. I am fully guilty of 218 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: this myself. This is not some sort of indictment on 219 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: other people that I don't feel guilty of too. It's 220 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: just like something I'm learning right now. And this goes 221 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: on a smaller scale of relationships that have ended, or 222 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: um work events, friendships, like a lot of things that 223 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: have changed in my life. I get really upset because 224 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: I think those things can be really painful, especially when 225 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: you're attaching your your worth into those kind of things. 226 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: But like, ultimately the issue for me is like, well 227 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: someone doesn't we don't align, you know, Like they think 228 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: this and I think this, and they're trying to tell 229 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: me who to be and I'm trying to tell them 230 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: who to be and that is never gonna work. And 231 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: so ultimately, like my therapist always says, you're just on 232 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: different journey and then you accept the other person as 233 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: they are and you allow them to go on their journey. 234 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Like it's actually like so cruel for us to try 235 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: to tell another person how to go about their journey 236 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: because we're all here to learn our own lessons, right, 237 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: So it just it just really pinned me as like 238 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: wait a second, this isn't even just about gay pride. 239 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: This is about us as humans, as Americans, whatever you 240 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: want to say, really accepting ourselves and loving ourselves and 241 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: not seeking external validation all the time and allowing others 242 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: to go on their journey. Um if it's and if 243 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: it's different from ours or doesn't align or doesn't work 244 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: for us, like just letting them go, like not having 245 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: to say this is why you're wrong or this is 246 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: what you're not chip you're a gay man, so like 247 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: something's wrong with you, you know, like it just I 248 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: get out of the conversation because it doesn't matter what 249 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: you're yes, you know. One of my favorite arguments when 250 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: when the marriage equality at was you know, a hot 251 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: button issue, was like if you don't believe in gay marriage, 252 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: don't get gay married. It's that's exactly. You don't believe 253 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: an abortion, don't have an abortion, like all of those things. 254 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: Like you know, when we were pre talking, I said, 255 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, you can walk down the street with next 256 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: to somebody and not be with them, and I think 257 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: that's just like a really visual version of like the 258 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: way that life should be. How many times in your 259 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: life are you on the subway you know A yeah, 260 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean depending on where you are, like on a plane, 261 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: on a bus, whatever, next to a stranger who might 262 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: be politically socially, you know, ethically polar opposites of you, 263 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: and it's not until you engage in conversation that that 264 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: is discovered and the breakdown can happen. So, you know, 265 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like keep your opinion to yourself. It's 266 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: really if you if you are happy with who you 267 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: are and you love who you are, it's a lot 268 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: easier to like let go of what what everyone else 269 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: has going on. And I think you know, hate comes 270 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: from you know, it's born out of hating yourself totally. 271 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Others is born out of hating yourself or hating something 272 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: about yourself, and it's just the way that it manifests it, 273 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, towards other people. Um, you know. I it's 274 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: the problem with you know, when we get into like 275 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: political beliefs and sort of social beliefs, is that everyone 276 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: believes that they're right, you know, no matter what side 277 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: of things that you fall on. You know, the I 278 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: and I like to say this, like where I fall 279 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: is I can I think about we and not me 280 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: when it comes from the politics what is best for us, 281 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: not what is best for me, because I have to 282 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: we all have to live in a society. Like when 283 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about government and laws and social politics, it's 284 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: like they apply to a large group of people, not 285 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: just to us. So, you know, and for that reason, 286 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: I believe that I am on the right side of things. UM. 287 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: And I think where when when the people that I've 288 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: brought up against are more concerned about how well's affect 289 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: just them? And that's where the rub really is. And um, 290 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's like if everyone, no matter 291 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: what you believe in, can just like step back and 292 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: think about we and not me, it would change everything. 293 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: And that is a pride to me, that's a really 294 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: prideful Like even the term pride, like a pride of lions, 295 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Like you think of like a group and like the 296 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: fucking lions don't all like each other either, you know, 297 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: like they but they have to get along to survive 298 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: as a community, um or work together in some way 299 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: and um, and there's some sort of strata where you know, 300 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: somebody's in charge and then everyone else is a worker 301 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: be and it's they're kind of set up just like 302 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: any sort of a civilization. So I um, you know 303 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: that ramble is it's kind of just to say, like 304 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: we're all just trying to get by, and the more 305 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: that we can like love ourselves, the more that we 306 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: will love others. And I think it just comes down 307 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: to love and pride. And you know, like the word 308 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: pride has kind of been usurped by the LGBTQ community, 309 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: and I think it's time for like it to be 310 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: something that everyone seeks, you know, every day year. So yeah, 311 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: maybe pride isn't even the right word for these kind 312 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: of events, like because maybe it's more about like celebration, 313 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, and not like pride. In some ways, by 314 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: those definitions, feels very external the way that it's described, 315 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: And so I don't know, that's an interesting one to 316 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: think about. But as you were talking, a couple of 317 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: things popped up for me um in twelve staff they 318 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: say it's principles above personalities and so like in our programs, 319 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, if there's someone who drives you crazy, you 320 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: just let it go because it's like Okay, if their 321 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: personality doesn't work for you, it's for the greater whole, 322 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: Like you said, the for the meetings, for the program, 323 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: for whatever. To just really stay um healthy and like 324 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: working the way they should, you have to let go 325 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: of certain personalities that don't bother you. Um. Another thing 326 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: that also popped in my head was like, if I'm disturbed, 327 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: it's about me, So like, if you're disturbed without someone 328 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: else's living their life, really you should go look in 329 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: the mirror, like what's going on for you? Because it's 330 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: really not about them, it's about what they're bringing up 331 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: for you and mirroring to you. Um. The third thing, 332 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: uh oh, is I really feel like something that's being 333 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: really missed right now. This kind of goes in line 334 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: with what you're saying about, like we all think we're right, 335 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: and you know, there's so much divisiveness, Like it is 336 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: exhausting to me just how much we want argue, Like 337 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: it feels like such a dysfunctional, abusive family dynamic the 338 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: way our culture is right now. And ultimately it's like 339 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: I think the issue is like I was reading this 340 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: article on Washington Post and it talked about gay pride 341 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: specifically and that this year feels a little bit heavier 342 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: because so many things are actually backtracking, Like things that 343 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: have been made legal or accepted um are kind of 344 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: being pulled back. And so it's like and we're feeling 345 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: that in a lot of different arenas, you know. And 346 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me because I'm like, why is this 347 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: even a political issue? This is like a moral issue, 348 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: and someone is trying to some people are trying to 349 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: make it political, Like these are our rights to tell 350 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: other people how to live? And if we're really going 351 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: by a democracy, we have no rights like that. We 352 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: don't This is not we don't get to say I 353 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: don't get to say who you love or who you 354 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: want to be in a relationship with or have sex with. 355 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: Like the whole point of a democracy is that we 356 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: all get to live the way we want to live. 357 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: Like that's the whole fucking point. So it's just interesting 358 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: to me that we're spending energy fighting these battles that 359 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: are not actually political. I do not believe they're moral, 360 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: and they're about your own morality and your own um 361 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: value system and so like like you said, you don't 362 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: want to have a you don't want you don't believe 363 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: an abortion, don't go have an abortion. But like if 364 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: someone else that's what's exactly, Like I can speak to 365 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, it is a crazy um concept that, Yeah, 366 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're wasting any time on this stuff. You know, 367 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: we should be arguing about things that actually matter for 368 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: the greater good of and and you know, saying that, 369 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm careful to say it because like I do feel 370 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: those of us who are standing up and fighting for 371 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: reproductive rights and gay rights and rights of people of color, 372 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: we are standing up and saying this is for the 373 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: greater good. Like, so we have to we have to 374 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: be careful to like not say because silence is complicitness. Um, 375 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm not sorry. I'm not trying to say it, like, yeah, 376 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you are, like I called myself when 377 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I was saying it, like yeah, it's I'm not advocating 378 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: for like silence. But when we speak up for these 379 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: rights that are for the greater good of humanity, there's 380 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: always gonna be someone on the other side screaming back 381 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: that you're wrong, you know, and like we can't control that. Um, 382 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: what we can ask is anyone who is listening that 383 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: feels like they are on that side and is standing 384 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: up screaming back. Check yourself for a second, what is 385 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: it that you are fighting for? You know, like you 386 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: really believe that someone shouldn't have the right to love 387 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: they love? Did anyone get in the way of who 388 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: you love? You know, like say like yeah, it's it's 389 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not that different. Like you know, 390 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: obviously in an Indian culture there's the marriage system is different, 391 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: and obviously it's progressed and not everyone does it this way, 392 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: but like there's arranged marriages. Could you imagine if that, 393 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: like we tried to revert to that in the US 394 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: and like people would be like, are you out of 395 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: your fucking mind? You're gonna talk gonna marry? Like it's 396 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: sort of the same concept, you know. And it's one 397 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: thing if you come from a grow up in a 398 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: culture where that's accepted and that's what people do. And 399 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here as an American that doesn't have 400 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: that saying you shouldn't be doing that, like because every 401 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: could Like there are people in that culture that that's 402 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: what they want, they believe in that by all means great, 403 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: But if we're going from a freedom of choice to 404 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: that being the norm, people would be up in arms 405 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: no matter you're straight or gay. So to think of 406 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: a straight person being like, no, gay people shouldn't be 407 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: able to marry each other like that. I'm just like 408 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: using it as an example of trying how insane that is. Right, 409 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: It's a really good point. Yeah, when I should clarify 410 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: that when I'm speaking about letting everyone live as they would, 411 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: it would be coming from a world that's equal that 412 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: in my head, I'm like operating from a place of 413 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: we're all on equal playing field and we just stopped 414 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: telling other people how to live their lives unless they're 415 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: like shooting people, you know that kind of Yeah, you can't. 416 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: There's obviously boundaries, like you can't be a murderer and 417 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: be like, well, I'm just living on's on his own journey. Yeah, 418 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean there have to be some sort of um 419 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: markers in place that say this is right and wrong. Um. 420 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: But that's also where the area starts to get gray. 421 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: Where how far do we take right and wrong? I 422 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: love what you said. I love what you said about 423 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: hate really being like you hate yourself, because I think 424 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: that that's a really good place to to like bring 425 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: this all back together. Is if we are just spewing 426 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: so much hate to other people, truly, what is that 427 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: mirroring to you? Because it really is about how you 428 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: feel about yourself. If you if if you can talk 429 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: to somebody or be so angry or so hateful about them, 430 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: it's only because that is what's inside of you. Like 431 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: that is how this works. And so if you're coming 432 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: from a place of love and you love yourself, you're 433 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a lot gentler and more compassionate with 434 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: everyone else as well. So I think that that's kind 435 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: of our whole point to all of this is we 436 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: want to celebrate everyone. We want everyone to be treated equally, 437 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: and also like we really, I really genuinely hope for 438 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: everyone that they can develop a relationship with themselves that's fulfilling, 439 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 1: like full of love for themselves. And so we have 440 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: pride in ourselves every day because we know we're worthy. 441 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah, I mean I think you know, it's 442 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: laws and rules and morals and all of those things. 443 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: You know when you see those signs. And this has 444 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: applies to the reproductive rights, uh, like argument, keep your 445 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: laws off my body, Like I think like that's really important, 446 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: like keep your morals off my body, keep your opinions 447 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: off my body. All of those things really need to 448 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: apply because you know, when you take something like drunk 449 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: driving laws, like I can get as drunk as I want, 450 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: but the second I get behind a car and I 451 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: put your body in danger, then I have sucked up, 452 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that should apply to every law, 453 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, every everything. As long as my rights do 454 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: not a fringe upon the safety of your body and 455 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: your being, I should be able to do whatever the 456 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: hell I want. Yeah, you know, And so I think, 457 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's how we can have like sort 458 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: of this like moral level playing field. Do whatever the 459 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: funk you want. I don't care. Just don't let it 460 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: touch me, you know, and um, and then you know, 461 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: every we're all good, you know, Like if you want 462 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: to shoot heroin and overdose, I would hate to see 463 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: you lose your life. But by all means you do 464 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: you boom, Like, just don't stick it in my arm 465 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: or get behind a car that you know that get 466 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: behind a steering wheel like you do you and I'll 467 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: do me. And then I think we we have a 468 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: much healthier society, you know, happier society. I agree completely. 469 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: And it's also about like you find your people, you know, 470 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: Like I think this past couple of years has brought 471 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: that up to the service even more where we've seen 472 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: friendships go, relationships die down or die out because of 473 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: politics and it's sad, but it's also like there really 474 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: is a community for everyone there. Really you go find 475 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: your people that you feel heard and seen with and 476 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: I'll do the same. And as painful as sometimes the 477 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: process can be, ultimately that's more fulfilling anyway. Right. So anyway, 478 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: that's our spill for today. We really just wanted to 479 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: take a minute and celebrate gay pride and also just 480 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: everyone and ourselves to just kind of bringing that energy 481 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: to the table of self love and respecting other people 482 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: and um equality ultimately, it's I mean, I really do 483 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: think it comes down the loving yourself, so you know, 484 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: get in a relationship with yourself. Oh, Like I mean, 485 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: I look, I need to work on it. I'll be 486 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: the first one to say I do. We all do so, 487 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: um and there there's no shame in that game. Yeah. Well, 488 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: as I said, we have some really exciting interviews coming 489 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: up for you. Got for you guys. UM always keep 490 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: your feedback coming to the edge at velvet edge dot com. 491 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: You can hit me up on Insta at Velvet's Edge 492 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: Chip I was preparing for act casual. We're not ready 493 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: for that yet at Chip door shits P D O 494 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: R S H. You literally the spelling and annunciation of 495 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: your name has truly become a thing. We have strangers 496 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: on the street that know that see it. Oh my god, 497 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: how's like, Oh, how is this the thing? This is 498 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: the thing. It's amazing. Anyway, we hope you guys are 499 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: having a great pride month and um we love you. 500 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: And as you go out into your weekend and you're 501 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: living on the edge, I hope you always remember to 502 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: act prideful. Oh what a shad. That's what you're preparing 503 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: you mentally. That's why you couldn't even think about how 504 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: to spell your name. I get it now. Wow. I 505 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: thought of that the shower today too. Oh my god, 506 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: so much happening in the shower. Don't tell us anything more. Okay, 507 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: We love you guys. Byem