1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is Wired to Hunt's 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: rout Fresh Radio powered by First Light and I am 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: your host, Spencer new Hearth. This is episode FO one 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: and this week we're talking about the white Tail Lockdown. 7 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's Fresh Radio. I am your host, 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Spencer new Hearth and back again joining us this week 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: is Mark Kenyon. Now, the reason Mark wasn't with us 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: last time because he was without service somewhere in Nebraska 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: trying to kill a white tail with his bow. Mark, 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm interested to not only hear how that hunt went, 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: but also what you witness for buck activity. So give 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: us all, uh, give us a little preview about it. Yeah, 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: well it was intense, you know. This is that hunt 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: where I was going out there and trying to learn 17 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: how to hunt deer in open country with like a 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: handheld decoy, like one of those handheld silhouette heads up decoys. 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: That's what I was using. And there's a brand new 20 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: thing for me. But it was a ton of fun. 21 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean, something that I'm absolutely gonna want to do 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: more in the future and a lot of good buck activity. 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: As far as general rut activity and behavior, I saw 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: a lot of cruising, and then I also saw a 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: lot of kind of rut fests where you've got a 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: buck locked on a doll, like a mature buck locked 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: on a doll, and the three or four satellite bucks 28 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, surrounding them or all five of these bucks 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: chasing that doll. I had. That happened two different days. Um, 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: so you know, full blown rut is basically what I 31 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: experienced last week, and I imagine, you know, there's gonna 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: be more, more and more of that now as more 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: of these bucks are locked on does. So it was 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: definitely a fun week and great to see. After an 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: aisle of hunt where I did not see a whole 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: lot of rutting activity, this Nebraska strip was was kind 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: of a perfect antidote for them. So if you had 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: to put a label on the rutting activity that you 39 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: saw in Nebraska, what would you say That phase of 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: the rut was, Oh, gosh, we are right in that transition. 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: I'd say between like light chasing too early lockdown like 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: there was there was some of both happening. Um, pretty 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: unclose like peak rutt You know, I don't know if 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: we were at peak breeding, but peak rutting activity and 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: and probably you know, somewhere around now would be what 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: most people would would call peak breeding, where the largest 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: number of dolls are being actively bred. Yeah, and you 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: brought up lockdown, which is going to be a theme 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: when we interview our guests this week. But I want 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: you to talk a little bit Mark about the reality 51 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: of lockdown and maybe go over like what the perception 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: is that a lot of hunters have about lockdown versus 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: what the reality is of lockdown and what that really 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: means for buck movement. Yeah, so lockdown lockdown is kind 55 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: of this term we use now to describe that period 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: of time when the largest number of doughs are being bread. 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: So if we think of the timing of breeding as 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: as being described by a bell curve, right, So for 59 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: people that don't know, the bell curve is basically imagine 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: the graph and there's this line that starts low and 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: it slowly rise to the top like a bell, and 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: then it eventually drops down. That top of the bell 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: would represent when the most doughs are being bread, which 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: in most parts of the country is happening right around now. 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: So we call that lockdown because when a dough is 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: being bred, usually what happens is a buck, whatever buck 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: has kind of one her. We'll try to corral her 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: into some little patch cover or some weird place in 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: the middle of a field or somewhere he can get 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: her away from all the other deer, and he will 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: hang out with her there for a day or two 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: or sometimes three, uh, breeding her and keeping her around. 73 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: And so people would describe as being locked down. So 74 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: that's happening, and at this time there's a whole bunch 75 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: of bucks that are currently locked down with the dough. 76 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: That's the general, high level description of what's happening. What 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: most hunters would tell you is that this is a 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: really tough time to hunt because they think all the 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: bucks are locked down, and so there's no way your 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: and will get a deer in their feet because there, 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, in one of the little patches, they're stuck 82 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: with the dough somewhere they're not moving, and you know, 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: there is to a degree validity in that like that 84 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: is happening a lot. There are a lot of bucks 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: like that, so it can be a slower time, but 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: it can also be a lights out time because these 87 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: bucks aren't on does the entire time, right, There's always 88 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: going to be a buck or two or some that 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: lose their dough or that finished off with a doll 90 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: or I'm looking for the next one, and so those 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: in between moments can lead to chaos. There can be bucks, Jason, 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: there can be bucks cruising, there can be all these 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: great things happening right now. It's just gonna be a 94 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: little bit more hit or miss. So I think the 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: trick this time of year is sticking it out, and 96 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: even if you have two days where it's absolutely dead, 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: trying to keep the face because any moment now that 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: big one could break off of his doll and he'll 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: be right back in the game, and you need to 100 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: be there too. If you've given up to the two 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: slow days, you're gonna miss that day window when he 102 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: is free and he's searching all over the place of 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: that next deal and he's going crazy. Um. There's also 104 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: a great opportunity if you spot a buck locked on 105 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: a doll, and you can maybe slip in on him 106 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: for lots of times. If you see a buck on 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: a doll in a certain little patch of cover. We'll 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: usually stick right around there for the next twenty four 109 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: thirty six forty eight hours, and you can move right 110 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: in there and have a kind of consistent movement of 111 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: that deer. That deer might be in there tight and 112 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: move around a little bit for moving the evening for 113 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, moving the afternoon, moving the morning, and 114 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: if you can get right in there with him, you've 115 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: got a chance. Um, if you're doing on something like 116 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: I was doing last week with a head of decoy, 117 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: you can move right in on that buck and present 118 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: the decoys to him head on a challenging it'll come 119 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: in there and try to push you off. So my 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: cliff notes of this is that while the lockdown can 121 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: be tough, it also could be you know, bananas. So 122 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: so don't skip out on the out there because the 123 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: ruts still happening, and when it happens, you can get 124 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: really hot and heavy fast. Yeah. I think you said 125 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: it best at the end there that like you should 126 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: still be in the woods. This time of years, still 127 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: great time to kill a mature buck and it doesn't 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: happen where it's like a mature buck has a dough 129 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: corral for like November and sixteenth, and then November seventeenth, 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: he goes right into post route where he's nocturnal. Again, 131 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: he only cares about food sources. It's not like one 132 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: like phase ends or breeding happens, and then it's right 133 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: to post route for him that there's still gonna be 134 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of movement out there in the 135 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: woods that hunters can capitalize on. And again the lockdown 136 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: thing and breeding is something you're gonna hear from the 137 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: rest of our guests this weekend. And the reading materials 138 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: for this week which you can find the description of 139 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: this episode. If you're on like Spotify, I scroll down 140 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: or I Heart or iTunes, you're gonna find these articles 141 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: linked below. How to e scout for the Rout by 142 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. Tony talks about how to use aerial imagery 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: to kill a buck in November, like what he did 144 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: in episode one of One Week in November, which is 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: out on YouTube right now. And then we have what 146 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I've learned watching Do You Have Sex? From You? Mark Kenyon. 147 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Mark covers how witnessing white tails breed informed his perspective 148 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: on hunting in mid November, and then we have how 149 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: to pull off I Like It I like it. And 150 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: then we have how to pull off and almost all 151 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: day rot Haunt by Tony Hanson. Hanson goes over history 152 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: rategy for staying in the woods as much as possible 153 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: this time of year, and then we have what is 154 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the white Tail Lockdown? By Mark Kenyon. Mark looks at 155 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: the reality of the white tail lockdown and why it 156 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a phase of the rod that keeps you 157 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: out of the woods. Mark, What is next for you? 158 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: I feel like every time I talk to you, you're 159 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: you're in a new state doing a new haunt. What 160 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: is next for you on the agenda? Yeah, Man, I 161 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: leave in a day and a half for Maine, and 162 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hunting up in northern Maine learning how 163 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: to track here in the snow with hell blood. So 164 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be super interesting. My biggest wildcover right now 165 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: is that there's not necessarily snow in the forecast. So 166 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: if we don't get snow, it's gonna be it's gonna 167 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: be a real doozy. Some cross my fingers and toes 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: that we get the pre set that we need and 169 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I can get a good opportunity out there to at 170 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: least learn this really interesting style of hunting. That's that's 171 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: what I got. And what about Michigan? Did you forget 172 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: about Michigan this year? And Man, this year? This year 173 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: because of the crazy slate of travel I have, Michigan's 174 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: pretty much been put on the back burn. Um. I 175 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: might get a few hunts in December. Um, but you know, 176 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm just home for a few days at the time, 177 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: so mostly just trying to spend it with a family 178 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: and be a dad when I can. So the Michigan 179 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: Bucks are kind of getting the free passes here, all right, Man, 180 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Well they won't get the same treatment next year, I imagine, 181 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: and I look forward to hearing how the main hunt went. 182 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: Talk to you next week, Mark, sounds good, Thanks Man, alright, 183 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: And joining us on the line next is Alex Gilstrom, 184 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: who's writing you can find on Wired Hunt's website in Illinois. Now, 185 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: Alex in Illinois, what would you say the buck activity 186 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten. 187 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: The lately, I'd say in the last week it's been 188 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: pretty close to about of six. Um. Kind of unfortunate really, 189 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: It's it's been we had a really timely cold front 190 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: of the movement's just been kind of slow overall. We 191 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: had a timely cold front move in last week and 192 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: just a few days ago, but it was accompanied by 193 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: really high wind. So the wind speed was high, you know, 194 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: Lett we're up round twenty miles so pretty was pretty sustaining, 195 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: and it was a south wind, and it was had 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: a lot of swirling in it, gusting, and it just 197 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: seemed to I don't know if it necessarily subdued the 198 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: deer movement, it just the deer just didn't move very well. Um. 199 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of daylight activity much at all, 200 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: especially when it come the running activity. Not much chasing 201 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: or seeking. I think we meant me in a little 202 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: bit of a lockdown phase, but it's just, uh, yeah, 203 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: it hasn't been real great so far. So where do 204 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: you want to be running your trail cameras this time 205 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: of year. I've always had the best success during you know, 206 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks in November and and even 207 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: phasing into two you know, kind of later into the month. Um. 208 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm a really big fan of just really kind of thick, thick, 209 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: tight security cover for betting and security cover for transitions, 210 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: So thick cover that can be transition zones between the 211 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: dough betting areas, UM downward sides of betting areas, anything 212 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: like that. I think that's that's where I've seen and 213 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: had the best luck of maximum you know, getting not 214 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: just good pictures of bucks in the area, bucks moving 215 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: in um or bucks that have kind of like is 216 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: in there within their home range, but also daylight pictures 217 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: as well, so you can get kind of a little 218 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: bit better idea of you know, or is this is 219 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: this based on the bucks cruising circuit when they're moving 220 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: and traveling. Is it more on their morning side or 221 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: their evening side. You can kind of assess that a 222 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: little better. So I'm a big fan of betting areas 223 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: this time of year. What have you been seeing for 224 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: signmaking as of late? Not a ton. I haven't seen 225 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot um of course, you know, in the first 226 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: week in November. First week in November was a lot more. 227 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: But they've kind of seemed to move off of the 228 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: signmaking scrapes are getting covered up by leaf drop and 229 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: leaf fall. Um. There's still some some scrapes opening up 230 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: in some from fresh rubs, but um, it seems like 231 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: we're in the kind of the stage right now. Where 232 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: they're really focused on just finding the doughs, blocking you know, 233 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: breeding the doughs and getting into that that lockdown period 234 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: or there where that where it really gets aggressive and 235 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: that kind of are leaving the chap, the scrape checking 236 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: and things like that away. I'm not seeing a lot 237 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: of fresh sign pop up recently. What food sources are 238 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: relevant right now for deer hunters in Illinois? And what 239 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: is the crop harvest status in your state? So the 240 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: crops are out for the most part here in western Illinois, 241 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: where west central Illinois where I'm at, Um, it's I 242 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: mean it's it's God's country as far as corn beans 243 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: and agriculture, so they you know, they don't let the 244 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: crops stay in the field much longer than they have to. 245 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: So by now, Um, we had some some late rains 246 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that maybe held a few things up, 247 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: but all the beans and corn fields have been harvested 248 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: by this point for for the most part, I mean 249 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: except maybe just one or two, just one offs here 250 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: and there, but um, so that's been good. And then 251 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: and then now they're really shifting. So we've had a 252 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: couple of really good hard frosts, some colder weather come in, 253 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: so it really seemed to be shifted to the grain. 254 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: The oak ridges are still pretty hot. I'm seeing still 255 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: quite a bit of dough activity, feeding and things like 256 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: that happening on the oak ridges as well. So if 257 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: you have acorns, um, it can be pretty timely right 258 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: now for that as well. But but it seems like 259 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: they're really kind of shifting to the grain for pretty 260 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: pretty pretty good right now. Historically, do you do any 261 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: calling or decoying in Illinois in mid November? You know, 262 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: not really a whole lot in Illinois. I had a 263 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: lot of public actually exclusively public ground in Illinois for 264 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and um, I'll do some grunting. 265 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't really rattle a whole lot, just because on 266 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: public it's just so competitive. But UM, I have had 267 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: some luck with some tending grounds close to bedding or 268 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: thick security cover, especially if I can see the year 269 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: that I want to call to and watch his body 270 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: language and read it, um and just kind of attract 271 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: and call into that a little bit more so so 272 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: I will I will I always haven't gun call with 273 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: me and do some light running, but um, outside of that, 274 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't do a whole lot, a whole lot of 275 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: calling myself right at this kind going forward then in 276 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: this next week or so, what do you think that 277 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: BUCKETTV is going to be on a scale of one 278 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: to ten in Illinois? Gotta be optimistic, it's gotta just 279 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: bust loose and and some of the spots that I hunt. 280 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: Um now, so I'm thinking I'm gonna I'm thinking it's 281 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: with the weather looking ahead, the um hoping enough, you know, 282 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: if there was some some some of the more mature 283 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: bucks and lockdown, they're coming off their doors. They're looking 284 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: for that next one's kind of um expanding their search 285 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: a little bit out of their core. So I'm gonna 286 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it an eight. I'm gonna say, we're 287 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna move from that six to that eight 288 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: and and be good to go. All right, Alex, I 289 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: like the optimism, luck with your haunts. Thanks for joining me, 290 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Thanks all right and joining us on the line. Next 291 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: is Wade Middleton from White Tail Diaries in Texas. Now, 292 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: Wade in Texas, what would you say the buck activity 293 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten. 294 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: I think it's about a six, depending on where you are. Statewide. Uh, 295 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: in the central part of the state. Man, the Reds 296 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: are actually going on to fantastic correct now. Everybody I 297 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: talked to said the Jason does I'm seeing there? You know, 298 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Buck Stason does that there? You may have to go 299 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: eight in that part that when you get down south 300 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: southwest or we spent a lot of the last ten 301 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: days it's been kind of hot, a lot of late 302 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: afternoon here, you know, showing up right at last night. 303 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Give that about a six for for that part. But 304 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: at all that the hunting has been. So what phase 305 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: of the route would you say? Sort of northern Texas 306 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: and southern Texas are in right now, you know that 307 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: central northern part. There's no doubt the Reds going on 308 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: from San Antonio north through Austin, going on the way 309 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: up north from there. I mean, Bucks have the most 310 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: to the ground there doing what we all like, showing 311 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,359 Speaker 1: up any word at any time when you go southwest 312 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: towards Del Rio, or you go south of San Antonio, 313 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: we're still a couple of ways and a couple of 314 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: weeks away from seeing that road that to you picked 315 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: up there. Wait, I know you said earlier this year 316 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: in February that you had a freeze event that's been 317 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,479 Speaker 1: one of the most extreme you've witnessed in southern Texas. 318 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: Is that something that you've seen impact hunting this fall? Absolutely, 319 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: that freeze was empty because it reached down the way 320 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: to the Texas Coach you know, caused big fish kills 321 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: down there, I mean eat backs, as hers. You know, 322 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of fleas are burned and got fast fact 323 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: black better word, while they were developing. And as such, 324 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of the accorn, a lot 325 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: of the mass crops seemed to be stunned. A lot 326 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: of the acorns that I'm seeing it at various places 327 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: this year really small, about the smaller than the size 328 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: of your pinky dale. And so therefore it seems like 329 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: to me that deer have been searching far and wide 330 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: for you know, corn corn feeders Texas the famous form, 331 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: and more deer showing up around feeders this year earlier 332 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: than than ever. So if you notice that February freeze 333 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: impact bedding at all, since the deer tend to want 334 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: to be around the feeders more, do you notice the 335 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: shifting bedding in mid November than what you've seen in 336 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: the past. Yeah, the the traditional patterns seem to have 337 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: gotten back to normal. Um, it just seems that, you know, 338 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of the normal mass crops 339 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: that we have are just a little smaller. The other thing, 340 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: I noticed that we had a mild spring, we had 341 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: a mild summer. I mean, hundred pery temperatures were far 342 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: less issue we've ever had. Antler development is sobomenal along 343 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the places that we've been. You know, 344 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: look at the sting cameras and hunting Texas. So it's 345 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: really it's just been a different year because of the 346 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: mass crops and a lot of guys that you know, 347 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: relying on hunting by a feeder. Uh, they're all like, man, 348 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: we're seeing more deer than what you're past in mid 349 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: November in southern Texas. Is water factor into your setups 350 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: at all? It does? You know, we're pretty dry in 351 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: the southwest part of Texas. We've had good rain in 352 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: other parts of Texas, but this year they've got that 353 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: Luninia is like college set up out there in the 354 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: delf And, and so we don't get as much rain. 355 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: They don't get a lot of runoff, they don't have 356 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: those big storms, and you know, I hunted up in 357 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Brownwood area early in October. I just we've spent a 358 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: lot of time around del Rio and surface water sources 359 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: are pretty limited. And if if you've got surface water 360 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: and you go look around the edge of those ponds, 361 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna find tracks and you're gonna see activity. I know, 362 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: way that you like to do some rattling this time 363 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: of year, tell us what those setups look like, and 364 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: when you have a successful one, what maybe the those 365 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: areas have in common when you do get a buck 366 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: to respond. You know, for me, rattling, that's that is 367 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: one of my biggest fashions. But I kind of read 368 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: the conditions. Am I seeing a lot of scrapes and 369 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: when I've seen dear mateing in my you know, chasing 370 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: those at the in the middle of the day, let's 371 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: seeing buck rudding sign then I kind of determine how 372 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: loud and aggressive that I that I want to be. 373 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: Right now, if I was in the hill country part 374 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: of Texas going up north, I would I would bang 375 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: those antlers pretty aggressively. You to try to you know, 376 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: literally something in you know, from sunrise up to about 377 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: two o'clock. I have good success down south roout, no 378 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: rout southwest. If I'm gonna round them, it's kind of 379 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: a light tickle. Um, you know, I'm just just trying 380 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: to make enough noise. That's something that's trolling on the east. 381 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: Might change direction and come our come our way. But 382 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: two weeks from now I'll be banging them pretty hard 383 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: going forward. Then, in this next week or so, what 384 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: do you think that bucket activity is going to be 385 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Texas? Texas? 386 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's fixing to blow up everywhere. I would 387 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: say we've got a cold coming through. I believe Thursday 388 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: of this week, I think gonna get back mild statewide. 389 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: We've got a little moist in a few places, and 390 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: always like that this time of the year. I think 391 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: the eight statewise, I think it's about to break loose. 392 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: All right, Wade, good luck to you and everyone else 393 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: from White Tailed Diaries. Thanks for joining me. Thanks Panters 394 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: all right in joining us on the line. Next is 395 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: Brian Christner from Knock and Release in Kentucky. Now, Brian 396 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: in Kentucky, what would you say the buck activity has 397 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten? Lately? 398 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: With our trip, we would say it was a good stick. 399 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: We started off our trip on the nine of November 400 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: and we were seeing you know, just our our regular 401 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: you know guys on the on the property with with 402 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: the activity and everything in does um, but we're seeing 403 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: a lot of activity at night, so a lot our 404 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: daytime pictures. Our daytime activity wasn't the greatest. And then 405 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: we started rolling into the about the eleventh in the 406 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: twelve we uh, we started seeing those young bucks chasing 407 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: pretty good. Um. I saw a couple of nice mature 408 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: bucks on that the tent actually that morning and uh, 409 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: it was yeah, I'd say it was a it was 410 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: a solid stix. And then near that opening Gune weekend, 411 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: we started rolling into the seven and eight range, um 412 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: with the bucks more on their feet cruising looking for 413 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: those um. But yeah, it was it was. It was 414 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: a good six at the beginning of the week and 415 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: near the end of this last week, I would say 416 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: it was a seven and an eight. Just now, you 417 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: just killed a great buck in Kentucky over the weekend. 418 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: Tell us about that set up, why you were in 419 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: that spot, and why that buck wanted to be there. 420 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: So that spot was it was on top of a ridge, Um, 421 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: it was a great spot. It was actually just in 422 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: a leaner, uh, just a double sleated leaner fiftet in 423 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: the air and uh it kind of looked down into 424 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: a like a like a natural bottleneck almost to where 425 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: those deer traveled. That bottleneck pretty hard and it was 426 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: by a hundred yards from bettings, so we knew the 427 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: deer traveled through. They're pretty good so and you know, 428 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: with all the podcasts we listened to, you know, everyone 429 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: always says, you know that first light when you can, 430 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: if you can grunt, if you can grunt, and you see, 431 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, I have good light grunt. You know, tried 432 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: pulling those deer in um. If a buck's cruising by, 433 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna hear it. And that's exactly how that set 434 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: up went for me. I took that to heart and 435 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna try this like everyone says. 436 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: And I did it. It was right around six thirty. 437 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: I started running and uh, within five minutes, I had 438 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: that buck. I I saw him about a hundred yards 439 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: out through the woods down that bottleneck and he literally 440 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: pinpointed me and walked six yards from the bottom of 441 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: my stands um. So it was It was a well 442 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: traveled area. Betting was nearby, so the dos were nearby, 443 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: and the bucks knew, you know, the dose were there, 444 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: and we kind of had an idea everything was at too, 445 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: so it worked out really well for us. UM. But yeah, 446 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: it was It was an awesome experience to see that 447 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: buck so close and he came straight up to the 448 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: bottom of my stand, grunning and searching. He knew something 449 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: was nearby, and I just made a mistake and came 450 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: to me, where do you want to be running a 451 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: lot of your trail cameras this time of year in Kentucky? 452 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: In Kentucky, where we were at, we were running. Um. 453 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: We we had him on food sources, of course, but 454 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: we we sat the woods. Um. We really dedicated ourselves 455 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: to the woods near bedding, hardwood, thick areas. The area 456 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: I was hunting was pretty thick um with basically off 457 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: a little cut you you know, as about as white 458 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: as us. You know, a small car could go down. 459 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: And that's where I hunted in that area. UM, And 460 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: so where I had we had all our trail cameras. 461 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: We were running about eight trail cameras this last week 462 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: and we were checking read them religiously. We had a 463 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: couple of cell phone cameras, so that was a huge 464 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: help because we knew exactly what was going on NonStop 465 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: in those areas. UM. So we we concentrated very very 466 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: heavily on on trails in the woods. What have you 467 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: been seeing for signmaking as of late? So that that 468 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: was a big We were pretty disappointed actually, Uh come 469 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: the end of October. We have a nice road cut 470 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: through there, and and plenty of areas where these you 471 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: know overhanging tree you know, little limbs and everything where 472 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: you see that sign all the time, rubs and scrapes 473 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: and and we just weren't seeing that well here this 474 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: last week we saw a lot of that happening. We 475 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: saw bucks making rubs, We saw bucks making scrapes and 476 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: hitting those spots, especially after it rained this past thursday 477 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: up there in Kentucky. I think the entire state, the 478 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: whole Midwest got that band going through them. That's what 479 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: brought that big front and and U which really started 480 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: that activity. But and that's when they were freshening up 481 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: those scrapes and freshening up those rubs. Um. But we 482 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: saw that a lot this last week Going forward, then 483 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: in the next week or so, what do you think 484 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: that bucket activity is going to be on a scale 485 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Kentucky one to ten. I 486 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: think this weekend is gonna be a nine. Honestly, I 487 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: think it's it's just gonna get fired up. It's when 488 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: we left, you could actually already tell the bucks were 489 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: on their feet more in daylight, according to our pictures 490 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: that we were getting. And then um and it just 491 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, according to you know, other podcasts and those 492 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: things we listened to and pay attention to, and the 493 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: hunt casts and everything, it looks like Friday is gonna 494 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: be an awesome day to be in the woods. For sure. 495 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Friday and this Saturday, it just looks really really good. 496 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: Um So I would be in the woods definitely, if 497 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 1: I wasn't taged out, all right, I would be out 498 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: there again. So all right, Brian, congrats on that great 499 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: buck he killed. Thanks of joining me, Ye, thank you, 500 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: all right and joining us on the line. Next is 501 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Nick Kravitz from Flat Line, White Tails in Pennsylvania. Now 502 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: Nick in Pennsylvania, what would you say the buck activity 503 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten, 504 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: I'd say this week it's probably gone upwards of seven 505 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: eight maybe nine. I mean, it's getting colder this week, 506 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: is why. I would say that it kind of warmed 507 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: up there the week before and now it's dropped back 508 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 1: down again and we actually got some snow recently, so 509 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: I think that things have been on their feet more. 510 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: And I mean I've seen all my buddies are really 511 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: getting the mature deer on the ground right now, so 512 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: I think it's really ramped things up. Your brother kill 513 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: a great buck over this last weekend. Tell us about 514 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: that set up. Why was he in that area and 515 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: why was that buck in that area? Well, that area 516 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: in particular actually is a turn up plot. So there's 517 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: a good food source. They're off of a thick bedding, 518 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of doughs hanging out in that 519 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: food and there's also what a few bucks in that area, 520 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: So that buck I think came out looking for the 521 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: does and they were feeding and that just it kind 522 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: of worked perfectly in that situation. What would you label 523 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: this phase is the rod as in Pennsylvania? Oh Man, 524 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: I would say at this point, they're definitely, like, I mean, 525 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: they're beyond lockdown at this point there. I don't know. 526 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but they're definitely locked on the doughs. 527 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: I actually was hunting with my buddy Billy there and 528 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: we watched him breed a dough, and after he bred 529 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: that dough, he just kind of moved on. You know, 530 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: where are you running a lot of your trail cameers 531 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: at this time of year? Well, right now, we kind 532 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: of have them in some different spots. I have a 533 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: bunch of mine on like the transitions like pinch points 534 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: um in the thickets there when they're moving from betting 535 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: areas to food source and that seems to be working 536 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: out good. We have some nice pictures of books in 537 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: these transitions of these betting area is that we're getting 538 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: a lot of daylight pictures. Actually, most of the pictures 539 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: I've been getting, I've been at like eleven am and 540 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: two pm is when we're getting a lot of them. 541 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: The sture bucks on camera at the moment you mentioned 542 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: that your brother's buck was killed on a turnip plot. 543 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: What other food sources are relevant right now for deer 544 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: hunters in Pennsylvania. Well, when my buddy and I saw 545 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: that fuck breed a dough, actually all the doughs and 546 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the little bucks are coming out and 547 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: they're feeding in that soybean field there where we were hunting, 548 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: So that's where we were kind of seeing a lot 549 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: of the activity, a lot of doughs coming into those 550 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: soybeans right now. Um, I haven't hunted much of the corn, 551 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: so I can't speak for that myself, but I know 552 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: they were definitely hitting the soybeans hard and obviously the 553 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: turn up plot there that Tyler was hunting. What have 554 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: you seen for signmaking as of late, Well, there's been 555 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot of weathers as far as rain and whatnot, 556 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: so here and there they're freshening up the scrapes, but 557 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: it seems like they're more worried about the does this point. 558 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: I see a lot. Even in my yard when I'm 559 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: coming home, there's a buck with the dough almost every 560 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: night in there. So it seems like they're more focused 561 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: on just going after the dose at the moment. But 562 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: they are still hitting the scrapes periodically as far as 563 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing some of my cameras, they're set up on them, 564 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: But um, I think it's more hunt the does at 565 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: the moment as far as that goes. In mid November, 566 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: are you doing any calling or decoying in Pennsylvania. I 567 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: personally don't use a decoy myself, but we are seeing 568 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: some response. We saw some response all this coming this 569 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: past week here to the grunt calls. Um, they seem 570 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: to be coming in getting defensive about it. And uh, 571 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: it's definitely stirring up some activity as far as we've 572 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: seen going forward. Then in this next week or so, 573 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to 574 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Pennsylvania. 575 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: I think it will pick up to an eight or 576 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: a nine personally, just because it's it's cold weather now, 577 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: it's sticking around, and I think that's really got things 578 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: really moving. Um. And I mean one other thing I 579 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: would have to say would be where my cousin Jagger 580 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: shot his buck was over a water source there and 581 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: that buck that he particularly shot the his goal was 582 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: to come in and drink that water and just move on, 583 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: but he didn't make it far because jaggering out before 584 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: he could leave. So the water seemed to be good 585 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: there too. All right, Nick, good luck to you and 586 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: the boys from Flat Line White Tails. Thanks for joining me. Yeah, 587 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: take care. And that concludes this week's episode of Wired 588 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: to Hunt's Rout Fresh Radio. Thanks to Alex Wade, Brian 589 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: and Nick for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. 590 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: As a reminder, this week's reading materials can be found 591 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: in the description of the episode. You're gonna see articles 592 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: like how to eat scout the rut, what I've learned 593 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: watching deer have sex, how to pull off and almost 594 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: all day rutt haunt, and what is the white tail Lockdown? 595 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: And as another reminder, the first episode of One Week 596 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: in November is now available on Meat Eaters YouTube channel, 597 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: with new episodes dropping every single Tuesday from now until 598 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: the end of the year. This week's episode, though the 599 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: first episode, is especially exciting because Tony Peterson drops the 600 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: hammer on a giant four by four that you're gonna 601 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: want to see. It was an exciting episode to make. 602 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be an exciting episode to 603 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: watch and we'll talk to you next week, but until then, 604 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: stay Wired to Hunt.