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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Stalley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck coming soon to Ohio on a

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Boul Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Hi so live on a Monday edition of the program,

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Speaker 2: Merely bo the great z from the City of Brotherly

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Speaker 2: Love of Palachi. What are you the Four Seasons of Ritz?

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Speaker 2: What are you at over there?

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Speaker 3: I mean we're I'm not even official travel.

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Speaker 4: We can't give we can't give that hotel information away

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Speaker 4: due to the thraws of Browns fans that have descended

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Speaker 4: on the City of Brotherly Love. You can hear already

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Speaker 4: from the Philly media how excited they are about these

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Speaker 4: joint practices.

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Speaker 3: This is a big deal. This is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: So we can't give we we're in an undisclosed location, sorry, folks,

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Speaker 4: that's the deal.

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Speaker 3: That's where we are.

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Speaker 5: That's how I became the one individual from Philadelphia that

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Speaker 5: was quite angry yesterday. How about the evening practices. I'm

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Speaker 5: the one that had him tossed last year and got

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Speaker 5: in with security and got all the security gear.

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Speaker 2: That was the guy that was the guy? Yes, our

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Speaker 2: audience understand. So there was a guy complaining on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: This guy's like a radio guy.

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Speaker 5: Why can I not seem to I told him my

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Speaker 5: son a zoom ten minutes taking so long?

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Speaker 4: He just is, well, I was standing looking through the

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Speaker 4: other zoom, so I forgot to have to activate my own.

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Speaker 5: He's complaining about something that I in all fairness, I

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Speaker 5: did not usurp him or do anything to him.

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Speaker 3: Oh I was usurpent.

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Speaker 2: Are we talking about the kid from Philly or z

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Speaker 2: now who's complaining?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, keep it straight.

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Speaker 2: You guys got too many there's too many gripes. I

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Speaker 2: got too many gripes right now.

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Speaker 4: So, kid from Philly, this isn't the city of brotherly

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Speaker 4: love if you're not with us.

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Speaker 2: Bo, Well, that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Brothers got a hug, the true.

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Speaker 2: All right. So there was a guy complaining about the

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Speaker 2: practice times. He's a radio guy in Philly, right, complaining

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Speaker 2: about the practice times. Yeah, he's a reporter blaming it

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Speaker 2: on the Browns, and the Browns are second rate operation

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Yeah, hurtful, so oh very much. So

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Speaker 2: I hardly slept last night because of this, Yes, get over.

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Speaker 2: The reality though, is is that the Eagles set the

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Speaker 2: schedule guests.

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Speaker 5: You might want to double check your facts before you

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Speaker 5: just throw out this text or this tweet. Sorry, Eagles

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Speaker 5: joint practices against Cleveland will be Monday and Tuesday five pm.

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Speaker 5: They really need to stop practicing with the Browns and

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Speaker 5: then in parentheses, a poorly on franchise if they are

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Speaker 5: going to insist on practicing at silly times and not

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Speaker 5: in the morning like a real team.

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Speaker 3: Hey buddy, it's not a lie if you believe it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I don't.

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Speaker 2: He's since been debunked, right, Like, does the tweet still

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Speaker 2: exist or did he have to delete it?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: No, the tweet still exists and he got he got

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Speaker 5: body bagged pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mo Pedman was the first one up. Well, if

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Speaker 2: you're defending the honor of Cleveland, there are a few

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Speaker 2: who are more eager to do so than Pedman. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I look, I mean that it's a pretty simple one

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Speaker 2: to know. Like, when they were here a year ago,

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Speaker 2: and now we're over there, it's when they want to

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Speaker 2: do it. So that's a pretty simple fix. So then

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Speaker 2: you got this guy thrown out at some point.

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Speaker 5: So it was right in the middle of the Watson presser.

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Speaker 5: Does he know that like the first time he I

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Speaker 5: don't think I didn't. So there was a there's a

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Speaker 5: check in. Yeah, and I saw the guy and now

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Speaker 5: he didn't have anything. He didn't have any identification nothing

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Speaker 5: this so I didn't know he was in the media. Sure,

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Speaker 5: I see this guy walk past security like not not

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Speaker 5: the not the Tenable people are the security company that

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Speaker 5: right up and stands almost on my gear like this

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Speaker 5: is the This is Watson's first meeting with the media

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Speaker 5: after the suspensions in it like it was a big

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Speaker 5: Remember mister missus Haslam talked, it's a big deal. This

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Speaker 5: guy just walks in and I looked at him. I go,

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Speaker 3: And he said something.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you don't have a badge go check in

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Speaker 5: and he was like yeah, and he goes, I'll do

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Speaker 5: it later. I said, no, I think he'll do it now.

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Speaker 2: We're already do it now, coach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that literally he almost stepped right on

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Speaker 5: the comrades. I was like, what what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: All right, So this is who we're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I look at Art.

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Speaker 2: You worried about retribution today from him to you?

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Speaker 3: Please great send me back to the house.

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Speaker 4: I already had a good workout this morning. I got Gibbet, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Got I got hoffin z g Yeah, I got over there.

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Speaker 3: He is en route. He will be at practice though,

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Speaker 3: he will be there when Gibbe needs him.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's a formidable.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of beef from'll be blocking Gibbe's blind side.

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Speaker 3: So anyways, Yeah, in another story, no, no, I told.

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Speaker 3: I told that.

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Speaker 5: I told the crew and they they immediately pulled him

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Speaker 5: and mister Frank came over later. I was like, you

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Speaker 5: did you did this a big favor today, greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, very good.

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Speaker 5: And he was back. He was the guy was back

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Speaker 5: out there. So you have quarterzip What do you have?

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Speaker 5: I have hats, quarter zips, polos from what the chief

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Speaker 5: security officer at the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: Y has security gears?

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Speaker 2: What he said, you have security gear. That's what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, y'all are every year. Happen every year.

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Speaker 5: I get flack from you guys about maybe you're gonna

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Speaker 5: get kicked out, not anymore if the one kicking.

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Speaker 4: Out nobody's seen him and RJ in the same place

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Speaker 4: at the same time anyway, Solid, it's possible for I

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Speaker 4: thought you were J. I think it's I think that's

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Speaker 4: very fair, totally true.

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Speaker 2: It's very very great job, great job, some more gear?

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Speaker 2: Can I get you a quarter zip in a Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the least I can do. All right, So you

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Speaker 2: guys flew over there yesterday. Correct, you haven't really done anything, right,

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Speaker 2: So you're basically saying out cocktailing having some meals.

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Speaker 4: I took it easy that night. I needed just like

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Speaker 3: I had to work at the stadium till about eight thirty.

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Speaker 3: Sure were you doing?

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Speaker 2: You're constructing it.

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Speaker 5: They didn't have putting up some dry wall. No one

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Speaker 5: could tell me what booth our radio broadcast is in.

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Speaker 2: Isn't the same always.

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Speaker 3: We have a game, That's what I'm like. This shouldn't

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Speaker 2: Like when you go to Cleveland Brown Stadium, if you're

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Speaker 2: still radio Booth's, isn't it like labeled?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Brown's Radio booth visiting radio booth. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's the one that's way at the end. Yeah, National

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Speaker 4: radio's on the other end.

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Speaker 2: At the link. You're telling me it's.

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Speaker 5: Not no no labels, no no air conditioning up there.

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Speaker 3: It was rough for a few hours.

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Speaker 2: What type of heat are you guys dealing with over there? Yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's a hot one baby yesterday, today, today?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's like real feel ninety six oh hot, humid?

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Speaker 2: So is that why they went at night?

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Speaker 4: I wonder, I'm guessing, but we could. I think tonight

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Speaker 4: we're going to beat the storms. I don't know about

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Speaker 4: tomorrow and about tomorrow, but tonight storms around eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: When did when did August become April? Except hot? It

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Speaker 2: rains every day, I know, you know back there it

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Speaker 2: has rained every weekend. The last weekend where we went

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Speaker 2: Day weekend. I saw that the other day. That's what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're to ask me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, me and miss k we're just saying we have

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Speaker 4: This is the least amount of time we've gone to

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Speaker 4: the pool at the club in a summer ever.

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Speaker 3: And I said, because it rains every.

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Speaker 4: Weekend, rains every weekend. Yeah, yeah, how about rain on

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Speaker 4: a Tuesday and the first Friday? How about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 2: No, just poor free and then and of course it

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Speaker 2: started for us on Friday. That's a nice little delay

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Speaker 2: And that's what we get. Pretty brutal from that part

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Speaker 2: in terms of what we saw, there's a there's something.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here. I guess do we

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Speaker 2: want to start with the glasses half full stuff or

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Speaker 2: get the tough stuff out of the way first?

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling today? Both? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I want to all right, I think I want to

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Speaker 2: about So let's just let's tackle the hard stuff first.

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Speaker 3: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: I had that down, and then let's come back up.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll come back up. We'll bring it down and

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Speaker 2: then bring it back. I just had this NBC. They

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Speaker 2: about he's got like a third period study hall. I'm like, buddy,

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Speaker 2: if you can you have the discipline to knock it

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Speaker 2: out right there, it's gonna be smooth saleing. If you're

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Speaker 2: Jimmy jam and the Gang. Big problems, big problems. So

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Speaker 2: get the hard stuff out early and then and then

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Speaker 2: you can cruise.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So this is Jacob Phillis just can't have luck, just

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Speaker 4: He unfortunately last year was a peck injury. This year

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Speaker 4: he played in twenty of the fifty games in which

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Speaker 4: he was elible to participate since being drafted. His four

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Speaker 4: years with the Browns. You know, and who knows what

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Speaker 4: happens now, but the four years of his rookie contract,

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Speaker 4: he will have played twenty out of sixty seven possible games.

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Speaker 4: And it's just unfortunate. Now, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 4: Jacob was battling, I think for a roster spot, maybe

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Speaker 4: more than people realize in that linebacker room.

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Speaker 3: And I think so.

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Speaker 4: Then from a decision making standpoint, it makes things a

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Speaker 4: little bit easier in the sense that now there's one

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Speaker 4: less body in the room.

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Speaker 3: But you just feel so bad for the guy.

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Speaker 4: He works so hard every offseason, he comes back looking

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Speaker 4: like an Adonis every single offseason, and then something happens

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Speaker 4: and he's not able to get you know, through the season,

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Speaker 4: and it's just it really bums out. It goes back

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Speaker 4: to two years ago the joint practices against the Giants

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Speaker 4: is when he injured his elbow.

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Speaker 3: Last year. This is peck.

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Speaker 4: This year tears the other peck. It's just it's it's

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Speaker 2: And if had he done that, then there's nothing to

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Speaker 4: Did he miss any extra points? McPherson home, please, he did. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: can identify with it. All right, from a positives we

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Speaker 2: we finally got to see Deshaun Watson the offense three

439
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,959
Speaker 2: for three on the drive, showed some mobility. Yeah, as

440
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: you knew he would be. I thought he looked great.

441
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: I thought he looked very good as well, completely that

442
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 4: it was clear that the speed of the game was

443
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 4: right in line with what he was expecting, you know

444
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 4: what I mean. And that's what you want to see

445
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 4: in terms of the comfort. He was completely prepared for

446
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: the speed of the game. He looked athletic, he looked strong.

447
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 4: Good decisions with the football, you know, some of it

448
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 4: just didn't you know. There weren't many opportunities really pressed

449
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 4: the push the ball down the field. There was maybe

450
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 4: one throw he could have made to Chief on a

451
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 4: corner route where he took a safer pass. But watching

452
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: all twenty two, I agreed with the decisions with the football.

453
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: I thought that he looked very good running it. I

454
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 4: would have loved to have seen us throw the ball

455
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: at the goal line. And I'm actually curious gonna ask.

456
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: I'll ask coach when I see him next. I think

457
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 4: the first down play was a boot out to the right.

458
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 4: He ended up running it because Jack Conklin missed the

459
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 4: block and if he was able to kind of sprint

460
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 4: out right and hold it, they had a backside slant

461
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 4: come with DPJ that was white open. The way that

462
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 4: everybody was working down the field indicated to me that

463
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: that was actually a pass. It just seemed to scramble

464
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 4: and then it was three straight runs after that. And

465
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Speaker 4: I understand trying to you know, establish something, you know,

466
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 4: mental there at the end. I did have one question

467
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 4: for you, going back real quick to k York. Yeah,

468
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: end of the game, we get the ball back. It's

469
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Speaker 4: the preseason, we're down eight. I understand that you want

470
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Speaker 4: the guys on the field to give them a chance

471
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 4: to compete, but there was a part of me that thought,

472
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 4: for the season, it might have been more valuable to

473
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 4: just pull up at the twenty five and send Kate

474
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: out there and be like, hit a forty three yard

475
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 4: field goal right now.

476
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Speaker 2: I love the idea of that.

477
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: What if he missed it though, then you had then

478
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 4: you but then you kind of you know that we

479
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 4: have a real that we have an issue that has

480
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: to be dealt with.

481
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, I think that I understand where you're

482
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: coming from, and it's that would have solved it.

483
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 4: But if you're that fearful of it, that make that

484
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: makes me nervous.

485
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: Well I am. I don't know if Kevin Stefanski is,

486
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: but I'm I'm that fearful of it.

487
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Speaker 4: Or I would have liked to see him kick the

488
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 4: extra just I just something I wanted to because you

489
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 4: need to know. Like to me, it's much more important

490
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: whether we see more from Cade and we get to

491
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 4: be like you go out there, because you would know

492
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: he would be feeling immense pressure on that kick, like immense,

493
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 4: So I would like to see him operate in that

494
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 4: situation because if he puts it through, that could be

495
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: the one that kickstarts everything. If he doesn't, then you

496
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: know that, hey, maybe we actually do have a bit

497
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 4: of a problem here.

498
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Speaker 3: To me, that getting that.

499
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Speaker 4: Little bit of information at the end of the game,

500
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Speaker 4: it's hard to balance it because it's unfair to Kellen

501
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 4: Mond and the guys out there battling and fighting sect

502
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: them a chance to tie the game. But the same point,

503
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 4: for the way that our season is going to go,

504
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: that is sign cad your significantly more important then whether

505
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: or not we get a beautiful pass by the way

506
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 4: from Kellen Mond to Mike Carley for a twenty yard touchdown.

507
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Speaker 2: Agree one hundred percent. I think the hard thing for

508
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: a coaches is like the football part of you wants

509
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: to win games, but then like from an information standpoint,

510
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: you would be coaching them totally differently. You would get

511
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: direct information doing what you just said, Like if you

512
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: missed it, then you'd be like, Okay, we got a

513
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: we got a real problem here because the margin and

514
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: this conference is razor thin and we're gonna need most

515
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: of these kicks need to go in. Like That's That's where.

516
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Speaker 3: I just felt like that would be of a pressure

517
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 3: situation a test.

518
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: For sure, you would you would have manufactured a tremendous

519
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: amount of pressure. But I think also if he goes

520
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: out there and misses it, then you'd have to be

521
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: prepared to move on at that point Like.

522
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: That about that, but bring you have to bring somebody in, right, But.

523
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Speaker 2: We talked about this last week. I don't know how

524
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Speaker 2: he would respond to that.

525
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 3: It's I.

526
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: Believe with him that he's gonna go out there kick it,

527
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 4: but he's got to see it go through. It's like

528
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: sometimes a shooter is in a slump they get to

529
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 4: the line. Just getting a free throw to see it

530
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 4: go through that gets you going again.

531
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Speaker 2: I agree, No, I I see where you're coming from

532
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: with it. I mean, it's kind of like the It's

533
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: It's it's different, but it's kind of like the Rogers thing,

534
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: like just throw it every down in preseason, get your

535
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: get your quarterbacks going, like to your point in the

536
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: red zone, like just make everything a throw, Like we

537
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 2: don't need to come on, let's go.

538
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 4: It's not because on that drive, Caid was warming up

539
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 4: the whole time, and in fact, when we scored, the

540
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 4: whole unit came on the field. So maybe at one

541
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 4: point they thought they were just gonna go kick it

542
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 4: and give another kick, and then he waved them off

543
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 4: and and we would They went for two, which obviously,

544
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 4: in the flow of the game, makes all the sense

545
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 4: in the world, like, yeah, it gives you one hundred percent.

546
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Speaker 3: It just would have been that would have been a

547
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: real that would have been a real pressure.

548
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 4: That would have been the most real thing that you

549
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: could have been created in the fourth quarter of a

550
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Speaker 4: preseason game.

551
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Speaker 2: Correct, yep, absolutely absolutely. What else stood out to you

552
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: in terms of positives offense defense?

553
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: We touched on several of them, Elijah Moore, Yeah, exactly

554
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 4: what we would have thought. You know, one carry for

555
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: eighteen yards, catches the pass on the first down, just

556
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: a mismatch waiting to happen. I think he looks great,

557
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: you know, hurt his ribs a little bit. We'll find

558
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 4: out if he'll practice today. I'm not sure if he's

559
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 4: gonna practice today. I think he's I know that. Let

560
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: me say it. He's fine. I talked to him. He's fine.

561
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: Will hey, will they out of an abundance of caution,

562
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: you know, not having practically. We'll find out. But it's

563
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: one of those freak things.

564
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 6: Man.

565
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 4: Just when he got one of the plays when he

566
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: got tackled, I think it was the first play of

567
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: the game. As he got tackled, when he went to

568
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: the ground, he just kind of fell on the ball

569
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: on his ribs and that was it.

570
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: Just bad luck on that side of things. Duan Jones

571
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: can play. He's played like every snap.

572
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: Dwan Jones absolutely can play.

573
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: It's now seventy four pass blocking snaps in the preseason

574
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 4: and he's allowed one pressure. He has been sensation, and

575
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 4: I would add so has his Ohio State line mate

576
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 4: Luke Whippler, who played guard for the first time in

577
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: his life last week, didn't give up a pressure. He

578
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: has not allowed a pressure yet this preseason in forty

579
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: eight pass blocking snaps. Those two both look fantastic. And

580
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: I thought Tyrone Wheatley making his debut. Tyrone Wheatley Junior

581
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 4: also had an excellent performance at the tackle position. So

582
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 4: you got some young guys playing well. But those two

583
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: draft picks out of Ohio State are really really good.

584
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: Dwan Jones has just been sensational. Brian Baldinger can I

585
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: stop raving about him? Mitchell Schwartz, former Browns right tackle,

586
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: talk about you know, when the guy's that big, you

587
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: worried that they're going to be punching down. He sinks

588
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: his hips, he's still punching up at people and he's

589
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: ad his length and strength. And what I thought was

590
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: great watching the tape, there was a two play sequence

591
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: where one time it didn't end up hurting us, but

592
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: he kind of got a little bit lost.

593
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 3: On a stunt.

594
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then the next time they ran that exact

595
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 4: same stunt, he picked it up perfectly.

596
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: And he also, uh that the one you're talking about

597
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: is the one where he like realizes it after it

598
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: happened that he did the wrong thing. Yes, Like, as

599
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: the play has happened, he's like, oh, that was I

600
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: blew that.

601
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

602
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 4: And he had one run play where he went it

603
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 4: was supposed to be a zone to the right and

604
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: he went left and it yeah, did not help the play.

605
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: But other than that, he was incredible.

606
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: And in fact, on one of the run plays that

607
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: somehow only went for like three yards, he blocked his guy.

608
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: We got tackled at our thirty, which was a three

609
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: yard game. He was blocking his guy past the forty

610
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 4: Like he just took somebody on a journey down Cleveland

611
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: Brown Stadium.

612
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: He is incredibly impressive.

613
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: It's so cool because this is everybody knows that he

614
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: didn't handle the pre draft process the best. Uh, And

615
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: we've are taken right, we benefit tremendously, but we are

616
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: taking We've told before about how like once he when

617
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: he fell and we were able to pounce and get him.

618
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: There was a pretty direct message like, hey, there's a

619
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: reason this happened. This is now on your Your NFL

620
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: future is now on you if you want to be

621
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: a pro or not. And so when I'll never forget

622
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: talking to you when we were down at Greenbrier and

623
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: when you guys are down at Greenbrier and you guys

624
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: had told me that he came in like twenty pounds,

625
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: dropped twenty pounds, like dialed in.

626
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: And added muscle.

627
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you went, oh he got it. Message received. Yeah,

628
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: So that's that's because with him, it's never been talent.

629
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Talent is in bunches.

630
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: I mean, well, like we say, you can't coach that size,

631
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: you can't make that size happen.

632
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: And then yes, and the athleticisms he.

633
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: Bad, athleticism defeat. Remember he was a basketball player, that's

634
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: what he wanted to be. Yeah, and so yeah, he

635
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: incredibly talented. He's off to he's off to a great start. DTR,

636
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: I mean, DTR is a dude. And don't take my

637
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 4: word for it, says anybody on this football team if

638
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 4: DTR is a dude, and they will say emphatically. Yes,

639
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: it's standing room only on the sideline. When he's on

640
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: the field, everybody's up watching him, everybody like they know it.

641
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: Nine to ten for one hundred and two and a touchdown.

642
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: On the touchdown, it was a blitz that he identified,

643
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: great route by David Bell. That'd be another positive. Saw

644
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: David Bell show up with a couple of catches and

645
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: that touchdown, made it cross the face, put it right

646
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: in there. He's now let three touchdown drives of seventy

647
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: five yards. He is an impressive young man. Here's preseason

648
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: stats right now, seventeen of twenty one for one hundred

649
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: and eighty four, two touchdowns, no picks, one hundred and

650
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 4: thirty five rating, and he's rushed for forty seven yards

651
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: and led as I said, the three scoring drives some

652
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: more than seventy five yards. He's been he's been great,

653
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: he's been awesome. Austin Watkins, I mean, we can go.

654
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: Let's we'll do offense. Defense. There's more to get into,

655
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 4: but yeah, I think big picture, what you saw while

656
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Speaker 4: your starters were on the field, both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 4: and it wasn't even your full compliment. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: different you know, it's different, especially on that defensive front.

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Speaker 3: It is different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get a much You're gonna get the

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Speaker 2: real truth, Bootsy. Coming up today, coming up tomorrow at

662
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Speaker 2: five o'clock, going against this Philly team. You're gonna you

663
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Speaker 2: guys will know. You'll know by Wednesday what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: A couple of the things here right out of the

665
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Speaker 2: case I gotta get to. We have some roster changes.

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Speaker 2: We have signed safety eight meters and running back Jordan

667
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Speaker 2: Wilkins to the ninety man roster. That's because Jacob Phillips

668
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Speaker 2: goes on reserve on the injured reserve, and then we

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Speaker 2: wave Bubba Bolden as well with an injury designation. So

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Speaker 2: those were the two. Yeah, those were the two there.

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Speaker 2: But obviously there is a one other thing Newsworthy. We

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Speaker 2: have announced this morning that we're moving the August twentieth

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Speaker 2: practice to ten forty five am, so that Sunday's practice

674
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Speaker 2: will now go to ten forty five am. Lots to

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Speaker 2: get to, lots more to get to from this home

676
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Speaker 2: preseason opener last Friday. We'll have some thoughts on that.

677
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Speaker 2: In addition to that, we will have get you set

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Speaker 2: for these dual practices with us and the Eagles the

679
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Speaker 2: boys over in Philly. That is that's heavy stuff over there,

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Speaker 2: Coach from the podium as well. We're often running Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Brows Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Beck. Coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, and be.

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Speaker 2: Sure to catch the Browns previous show tonight at seven

685
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Speaker 2: with Kenon Gerard on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

686
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Speaker 2: Listening for complete coverage from joint practice number one, Kevin

687
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Speaker 2: Stefanski from the podium on Saturday, Let's have a listen.

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Speaker 6: Okay, injury front, unfortunately with Jacob Phillips is going to

689
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Speaker 6: be out for the season with a torn peck that's

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Speaker 6: going to require surgery. So very very disappointed for the

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Speaker 6: young man. I know he's battled injuries, but he's got

692
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Speaker 6: a very strong will, so I know he will bounce

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Speaker 6: back this With the other injuries we have some guys

694
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Speaker 6: there are day to day that we'll learn more about

695
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Speaker 6: as these days go on, and that type of thing.

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Speaker 6: But like we talked about last night, I thought some

697
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Speaker 6: really really good things happened in that game for us

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Speaker 6: to teach off of offense, defense and special teams. I

699
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Speaker 6: thought there was a bunch of different situations that we

700
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Speaker 6: were in and different things come up when you're playing

701
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Speaker 6: different schemes for us to teach and for us to

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Speaker 6: talk through. So that that was really valuable stuff. And

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Speaker 6: we'll get the team in here tomorrow, get get them

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Speaker 6: meet on that film, we'll get a workout, and then

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Speaker 6: we're jumping on an airplane heading to Philadelphia. Practice First

706
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Speaker 6: Eagles a couple times next week as we go into

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Speaker 6: that game Thursday night. But with that, I'll take any questions.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Kevin, sorry to hear about Jacob. Can you did

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Speaker 7: you see exactly what happened? What kind of play that was?

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Speaker 7: I did not gotcha. Hey, as far as Cage, did

711
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Speaker 7: we talk to you a little bit about that last night?

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Speaker 7: From your standpoint, I think there's a lot of mechanisms

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Speaker 7: that go into making a kid snaphold all that timing.

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Speaker 7: Does everything else seem to be working?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 7: I mean, is there is there any kind of common

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Speaker 7: thread here to these couple of misses And I know

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Speaker 7: it's a it's a small sample size.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not only if there's a common thread Tom, I

720
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Speaker 6: think it's to your point, it's a small sample size,

721
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Speaker 6: going to continue to work. Caid's working very hard, just

722
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Speaker 6: like the rest of our team is. I think it's

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Speaker 6: you know, preseason football for all of us. None of

724
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Speaker 6: us are ready to play or coaching in that first

725
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Speaker 6: game just yet, so we're working through it.

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Speaker 8: Kevin, real quick on Jacob, Is it the same armor.

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Speaker 3: As last year?

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 8: It's not, okay, And just how hard is it when

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Speaker 8: you see a guy go through the string of injuries

731
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Speaker 8: like he has?

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Speaker 6: That's the worst. You know, it's the worst part of

733
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Speaker 6: this game seeing guys get injured. Uh, you know, it's

734
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Speaker 6: just and especially you see them how hard they work,

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Speaker 6: so it hurts, you know. I heard for Jacob and

736
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Speaker 6: and you know this is why we're teammates and why

737
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Speaker 6: we support each other. But yeah, the worst part of

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Speaker 6: the game. I wanted to ask you.

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Speaker 9: I know you coaches try to conceal things in their

740
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Speaker 9: offense this time of year, and we who are at

741
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Speaker 9: practice see Elijah Moore all over the place. Anyway, did

742
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Speaker 9: you not feel that was worth concealing? The plays hand

743
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Speaker 9: off to him and the run of the pass pattern.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, to that point, Tony. I'm sure it's

745
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Speaker 6: been you know, well reported that we want to use

746
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Speaker 6: the kid in a bunch of different ways. Teams know

747
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Speaker 6: that we'll hand it to him, that will throw it

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Speaker 6: to them, you know, As you know, there's no shortage

749
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Speaker 6: of plays. There's a thousand things you can do with

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Speaker 6: versatile football players. So to think that you know you're

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Speaker 6: giving your opponent part of your offense, I mean, you

752
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Speaker 6: hold plenty of stuff. So what you're showing games is

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Speaker 6: in these preseason games is really should be the tip

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Speaker 6: of the iceberg.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Kevin, just to go back to cad here. I

756
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Speaker 10: know he's talked about like the mental part and working

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Speaker 10: through that. Just how have you guys seen him handle

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Speaker 10: that part of being in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Caid's got the make up for that role.

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Speaker 6: As you know, he works very hard at his craft.

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Speaker 6: It's also part of being a player in the NFL,

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Speaker 6: and certainly part of being a kicker in the NFL

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Speaker 6: is you got to you know, bounce back from a miss,

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Speaker 6: and I think he did that in the game last night.

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Speaker 6: So really that's what I expect from all of our guys.

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Speaker 11: He's Kevin, I wanted to ask you about Nick Harris

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Speaker 11: a little bit and just what you've seen from him

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Speaker 11: and specifically you know the mental and emotional growth you've

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Speaker 11: seen out of him, you know, coming back from that injury.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Nick is he's He's a great teammate. You know,

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Speaker 6: he pushes guys, he supports guys. He's another guy you

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Speaker 6: talk about injuries that has bounced back and worked really

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Speaker 6: really hard to put himself where he is right now.

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Speaker 6: He's great in our meeting room. He's a younger player,

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Speaker 6: but he does everything the right way. I think he's

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Speaker 6: a great person for our young players to look up to,

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Speaker 6: to see a guy that really works on his craft.

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Speaker 6: But he's a guy that is in a plays a

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Speaker 6: really important role for us.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Kevin, I want to go back to Elijah and

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Speaker 12: sort of the different ways you use him. You know

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Speaker 12: you had you were in Minnesota when Percy Hartman was there.

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Speaker 12: Do you kind of go back to those days. Is

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Speaker 12: there some influence there with how you know you guys

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Speaker 12: use Percy, with how you want to use a guy

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Speaker 12: like Elijah a little bit?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was with Percy. Coach Musgrave was

788
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Speaker 6: with Percy. Kevin Rodgers with Percy. We had Cardero Patterson

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Speaker 6: in Minnesota as well. So really it just speaks to versatility.

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Speaker 6: I mean AVP, had Randall Cobb. When you have guys,

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Speaker 6: it's it's the classic, the more you can do. And

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Speaker 6: I think for us, we're you know, we're early on

793
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Speaker 6: and having being around Elijah, So what is fun is

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Speaker 6: there's no shortage of what he can do, I think

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Speaker 6: physically but also just mentally. You can put a lot

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Speaker 6: on his plate. So that's the fun part for us

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Speaker 6: and trying to just make ourselves difficult to defend. From

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Speaker 6: the defense.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Kevin, I want to ask you about a couple

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Speaker 8: of defensive guys. We haven't asked about Shelby Harris. What

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Speaker 8: was attractive about him and where do you think he

802
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Speaker 8: fits from a role perspective. I think you spent a

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Speaker 8: lot of time in a three to four.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, productive football players. Has been very disruptive in his career.

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Speaker 6: I've gone against him, you know, has had an interesting career,

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Speaker 6: really started out, didn't play a ton early in his career,

807
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Speaker 6: but has really come on, played very very meaningful snaps

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Speaker 6: and good snaps for a bunch of good defenses. So

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Speaker 6: we'll see where he fits, you know, we just got

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Speaker 6: him in the building, getting him around. Our guys certainly

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Speaker 6: know that he has the ability to play in our scheme,

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Speaker 6: but really a productive veteran.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but it looked like Josh Dobbs was pressured a

814
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Speaker 9: lot took some gifts in his time on the field.

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Speaker 9: Have you reviewed the performance of the second team offensive

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Speaker 9: line and how did they do?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I thought protection really was pretty good all night

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Speaker 6: tony and especially early. They have some guys that can

819
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Speaker 6: really rush the passer, so I thought the guys did

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Speaker 6: a nice job. Never perfect. We definitely gotten some empty

821
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Speaker 6: sets and really challenged the offensive line at times, and

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Speaker 6: we won our fair share they got theirs. But I

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Speaker 6: thought the quarterbacks did a really nice job of navigating

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Speaker 6: some pockets and moving forward and making plays with their feet.

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Speaker 12: I wanted to ask about David Bell too. He had

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Speaker 12: a nice night last night. What have you sort of

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Speaker 12: seen out of him in year two and kind of

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Speaker 12: how he's adjusted to playing in the slot over the

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Speaker 12: last couple of years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a very very dependable player. Made plays last night.

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Speaker 6: I thought had a really nice route, especially in that

832
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Speaker 6: two minute drive to get out of bounds, and then

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was on that play, but

834
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Speaker 6: had another catch and you see him picking up the

835
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Speaker 6: ball and running it right to the middle of the

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Speaker 6: field because it's a two minute drive and he's you know,

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Speaker 6: as he's taught, he's doing exactly what he's taught to

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Speaker 6: do is get the ball back to the middle so

839
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Speaker 6: we can snap it. So you just see a very smart,

840
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Speaker 6: heavy football player, good hands made play it down there

841
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Speaker 6: on the goal line versus Max Pressure. Great throw by Dorian,

842
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Speaker 6: great catch by him.

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Speaker 7: Thanks, Kevin, Hickman is flashed a little bit. Can you

844
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Speaker 7: guess give us your impressions on him so far?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Ronnie, like really a lot of these rookies times,

846
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Speaker 6: it's an impressive rookie class from a intelligence standpoint, and

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Speaker 6: Ronnie certainly fits in in that group and knowing where

848
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Speaker 6: to go and what to do, and just the ability.

849
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Speaker 6: You can't do your job if you don't know your job.

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Speaker 6: And he's a young man that really works hard at

851
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Speaker 6: knowing what to do, so that puts himself in position.

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Speaker 6: And I think he's got really good ball skills and

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Speaker 6: that was evident last night.

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Speaker 9: Kevin, your first interview in Greenbrier, you kind of outlined

855
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Speaker 9: your playtime in general for these four games and the

856
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Speaker 9: Philly game, you weren't expecting to play any starters?

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Speaker 6: Is that hole true? And I got another question too. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: well that's our plan. Tony will use these practices to

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Speaker 6: get the ones and twos a lot of reps, and

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Speaker 6: then it'll be primarily backups in the game Thursday night.

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Speaker 9: Will the format be the same as last year or

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Speaker 9: have you and Nick changed things up somewhat?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really the host is in charge of putting

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Speaker 6: the structure together, so to speak, and the practice plan.

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Speaker 6: So we're the guests. We show up and do what

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Speaker 6: we're told. But Nick and that whole organization are great

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Speaker 6: to work with. I thought we got a ton of

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Speaker 6: really good work done last season when they came here,

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Speaker 6: so we're looking forward to doing the same this season

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Speaker 6: when we go there. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Are there any specific things you're looking to get out

872
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 8: of those joint practices or that you saw last year

873
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 8: and them and you thought these things were very valuable?

874
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think for us, the big thing is going

875
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 6: against a different scheme. You know, Sean Decide is their

876
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator comes from the Vic Fangio family of defense.

877
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 6: That's really good for us to get some reps in

878
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 6: that because it presents different issues from a coverage standpoint

879
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 6: and certainly from a front standpoint, so that's helpful. And

880
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 6: then that offense versus our defense, I mean, you get great,

881
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 6: you get test did with a great quarterback, some really

882
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 6: really unbelievable outside players, a big offensive line. So it

883
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 6: really is a good matchup for us to go against

884
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 6: from a schematic and just a really good football team.

885
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 6: This is a Super Bowl runner up that we're going against.

886
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, I just wanted to check on something with Elijah.

887
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 12: We know he got the X rays yesterday on the

888
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 12: ribs and they came back negative. Is he good to

889
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 12: go this week in those practices?

890
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we'll see. I'd call him day to day.

891
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: I'm hopeful, but I want to get there before I

892
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 6: can make that comment.

893
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff from coach there. To celebrate the

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909
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Speaker 2: the offense, talked about Kate and the stuff on Friday.

910
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: Have not had a lot of chances to time of

911
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: time to talk about what we saw defensively. Ze, you

912
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: did mention j Okay and some of the big guys

913
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: upfront keeping guys off of him in his ability to fly.

914
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: What else stood out to you defensively from Friday?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's just start with the defensive front that

916
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 4: started the game. Three quarters of your starters are actually, yeah,

917
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: three quarters of your starters and we'll count Obo Karanko

918
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 4: as a starter because he's going to be playing a ton.

919
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 4: But ye, your new your three new guys without Shelby Harris.

920
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: He didn't play in this game after just getting signed

921
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: at week. But you know, Dalvin Tomlinson, Zadarias Smith, Obo

922
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 4: okoronquo Obo was great. Four tackles, two pressures. He only played,

923
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: you know, sixteen snaps ters. I thought that that very

924
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: first play you saw his ability to hold up at

925
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: the line you see as a speed to the quarterback.

926
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Speaker 3: He looked great.

927
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: Dalvin Tomlinson didn't do anything that showed up in the

928
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 4: stat sheet per se, but when you watch the tape,

929
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: his ability to eat space and to get push was

930
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: helpful not only to the other pass rushers but also

931
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 4: to the linebackers. J Okay to the safeties. Juan Thornhill

932
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: was flying around as well. And then Zadarias Smith. That

933
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: was Andrew Wiley. That was Andrew Wiley. Andrew Wiley was

934
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: the starting right tackle for the Super Bowl champion Kansas

935
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: City Chiefs. So this wasn't just some like Jabbroni right tackle.

936
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: They signed him three years, twenty four million the game,

937
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: a nice deal, and Zadarius Smith, on consecutive rushes, dominated

938
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: him to the point that he was going to get

939
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: a safe, and Wiley basically just kind of held him

940
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: and threw him out of the way, which led to

941
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 4: a safety anyway. But Zadarius Smith, the power of the

942
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 4: speed to power, just that dominance he showed was great

943
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: to see. So I loved that. I think from you know,

944
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 4: second levels on, I thought Maurice Hurst had a great day,

945
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: led the team with three pressures in this one. TOGYI

946
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 4: had half of a sack, so kind of that defensive

947
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: tackle battle, and you're starting to wonder, you know, with

948
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: Shelby Harrison, now we're back to three definites. I thought

949
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: the way they restructured Jordan Ellen's contract that kind of

950
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 4: put him on that definite list. But I think he's

951
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: in a competition right now with Tommy TOGII, and I

952
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: think he is in a competition with Maurice Hurst perhaps

953
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: for that fourth and final spot in that defensive tackle room.

954
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: So something to keep an eye on there, somebody.

955
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Yeah, we kind of wondered if that

956
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: that that room got tight, man, it got it got

957
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: really really tight. There was I want to talk to you

958
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: about Ronnie Hickman as well. I mean We talked so

959
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: much about the great players on offense and Buckeyes and

960
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: Whipler and Jones, But Hickman, I mean, for a guy,

961
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: these are fighting for dear life. Roster spots man two

962
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: picks in a game, that's attention getter stuff.

963
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, when he comes in has the two picks and

964
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: he's in a battle with the Anthony Bell for that

965
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: final safety spot. And you know they really wanted to

966
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: get a look at him. When I asked, you know,

967
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 4: kind of before the game, doing my rounds, who are

968
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 4: some people you guys really want to see today, Maurice

969
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: Hurst's name came up quite a bit, and then so

970
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: did Ronnie Hickman's. And for Ronnie Hickman, this was all

971
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: you could have hoped to do in a game there.

972
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: And so you get the first interception, great ball skills,

973
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: make the catch through contact, tracked it well, and that

974
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 4: saved you know, they were going down that he caught

975
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 4: that just outside of our goal line and that and

976
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 4: the half so that was took points off the board.

977
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: Then the next interception, they are running a dig which

978
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: is a deep breaking route in front of him. He's

979
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: playing single high safety. He sees that breaks before the

980
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: ball is even thrown, makes the break, gets to the

981
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: ball before the receiver, so he doesn't even make contact

982
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: with him and picks off. That was a big time

983
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: free safety play. Also had a team high five tackles,

984
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: two passes defense, the two picks. I mean, it was impressive.

985
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 4: Now there's still work. Everything's not perfect. He's a step

986
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 4: light on that touchdown to Dotson in the first half,

987
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: but all in all, a very impressive performance and he

988
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: just shows, you know that he's got maybe athletic gifts

989
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: that some of the other guys don't have.

990
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: Now you know this.

991
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: Better than I do, bo, I'm pretty sure that at

992
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: Ohio State, kind of the knock on him was he

993
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 4: was capable of doing these incredible things, but the consistency

994
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: was the issue, which is probably why you know he

995
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 4: goes undrafted.

996
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. True. The other thing that happened at that time

997
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: is they went they had like three different secondary operations

998
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: when he was there, so they basically had three different

999
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: coordinators during the time that he was there on the

1000
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball, So perhaps that led to

1001
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: some of those inconsistencies. But yeah, it was just a

1002
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: consistent play time and time out that you were just

1003
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: kind of waiting for on him, but every other box

1004
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: was certainly checked. And yeah, I mean that makes some

1005
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: sense that that would be it and that's how you

1006
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: end up not being drafted and the rest of those

1007
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: things happen. Yeah, he's he's a top one hundred player

1008
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: out of high school. He's a four star kid, top

1009
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: one hundred player in the country out of high school.

1010
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: Was somebody who played a lot. So yeah, I mean

1011
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: I think I think all of those things for him, though,

1012
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: Like as we're going through this, you talk about the

1013
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: loss of we talked about the loss of Jacob Phillips,

1014
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: Like now all of a sudden, just kind of the

1015
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: breakdown defensively, like it might be a little bit different

1016
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: than it was a week ago when we were having

1017
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: this conversation with Brian Shelby Harris from a week ago. Now,

1018
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Jacob Phillips isn't in the is not

1019
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 2: someone that has to be considered. So there's just some

1020
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: different things that play here than there was a week ago.

1021
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: This thing is ever ever evolving.

1022
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: It is And I thought Hickman really helped himself in

1023
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: that battle with the Anthony Bell, and I think if

1024
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: he can you know, have a good week here in Philadelphia.

1025
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: That could go a long way. I think.

1026
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: He is very talented, and I think that was just

1027
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 4: on display. That second interception was a big time play.

1028
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: Some other guys that I think helped themselves on the

1029
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball. In the linebacking Corps, Tony

1030
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 4: Fields continues to be an excellent run defender. He's got

1031
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: eight run stops in two games. That leads the team.

1032
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: I thought that Cam Mitchell continues to play well, really

1033
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: stuck his nose in there in the run game, and

1034
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 4: I think that's what you need to show if you're

1035
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: gonna play slot in the National Football League. So those

1036
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: are two of the other younger guys that I thought

1037
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 4: played well. And then the two undrafted free agents at linebacker,

1038
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 4: Diabate and Charlie Thomas. Those guys fly around to the ball.

1039
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 4: They are fun to watch. In the Washington game, the

1040
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: body was our second highest graded defender at Pro Football Focus.

1041
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: Had the tackle, had the pass breakup that he should

1042
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: have maybe picked off and taken to the house.

1043
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he.

1044
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 4: Also had a quarterback hit good Blitzer. I mean in

1045
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 4: college he had five sacks at Utah last year. So

1046
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: he is a guy for anoftball linebacker who can get

1047
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. And I think that was fully on display,

1048
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 4: so very encouraging stuff, I think from our young guys

1049
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, and this is

1050
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 4: going to be a big week for them. But for

1051
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 4: Ronnie Hickman, you know, yeah, that was one of the

1052
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 4: positions that we said was a battle before camp. It

1053
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 4: remains a battle, and I think Hickman certainly helped himself

1054
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: in that role.

1055
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: All Right, you'll hear from some of our guys coming

1056
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: up next final hour. Also just set for these big

1057
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: practices against the Eagles over in Philly, which is where

1058
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: our guys are. You have that to look forward to,

1059
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,239
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Speaker 2: Let's hear from some of the guys from Friday Night.

1068
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: Chronologically this show Zadarius first, but I'm gonna put that

1069
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: at the bottom since we'll get to him on the

1070
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: joint practice in a second. We talked a lot about

1071
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: Dwan Jones. He has had a tremendous first couple of

1072
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: weeks of his NFL career. He was asked how the

1073
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: game speed is different. Here's what he had to say.

1074
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Speaker 13: One take, Guys, you know just probably wasn't used to

1075
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 13: the speed of the game. And you know, I just

1076
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 13: knew I was going to figure it out eventually, you know,

1077
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 13: to seeing the guys go fast, you know, the game

1078
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 13: getting faster as it goes. Uh, you know, I feel

1079
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 13: like I just had to do it, just do it

1080
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 13: upon myself, just to get better, honestly.

1081
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: And here he is on his pass protection is he

1082
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: alluded to just one pressure.

1083
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 13: So far being on my pass pro and so like

1084
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 13: stan square is one of my major things, and you know,

1085
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 13: I just want to make sure I keep harping myself

1086
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 13: on that, and he's been harping me on that. And

1087
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 13: I think this thing, I could never stop working on.

1088
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: This thing could look like a theft. By the time

1089
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: of all things, all sudden done with him.

1090
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1091
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: I mean Lance Zerlin, who you know was regarded as

1092
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: one of the better offensive line analysts in the draft process,

1093
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: had a first round great on him. Thought of your minded him,

1094
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 4: Trent Brown. So the reason he didn't go that early

1095
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: is is you alluded to earlier. He is that kind

1096
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: of a talent, and I think when you give that

1097
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: kind of mountain of clay to somebody like Bill Callahan,

1098
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 4: Scott Peters and they buy in. And that's the thing

1099
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 4: he's bought in. He's putting in the work to get

1100
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: the most out of his talent. And his talent is immense.

1101
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 4: So if he does that, this is going to be

1102
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: a very very good thing for the Cleveland Browns and

1103
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: Fordwan Jones. And we're seeing that right now early on

1104
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 4: in his current So now what the next evolution is,

1105
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, does he get a few looks this week

1106
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 4: against you know, elite pass rushers Josh Sweat, you know,

1107
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 4: Brandon Graham, Yeah, Hassan Reddick.

1108
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: Do we give him some work and see?

1109
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: Okay, let's see in a practice setting how he responds

1110
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: against some better talent, and that will, I think be

1111
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: very illuminating for him and for all of us. It

1112
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me at all. If he does get some

1113
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: of that work. I'd like to see it.

1114
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 3: Quite frankly.

1115
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I never thought of in this sense,

1116
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: but I'm curious if that happens tonight. Really should go

1117
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: back and see how he performed against Georgia, see how

1118
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: he performed against Michigan at the end of the season

1119
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: in the last two years, because you would have played

1120
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: at the college level, at least not in terms of

1121
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: pro best pass rushers in Pro but they would have

1122
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: played against some of the best pass rushers in college football.

1123
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: When he was at Ohio State the last two years,

1124
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 2: towards the end of the season, he would had chances

1125
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: to go against Hutchinson when he was, you know, two

1126
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: years ago, and obviously last year would have gone up

1127
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: against that Georgia team. So my guess is that he's

1128
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: ready for it. I think there's a lot to be

1129
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: impressed with how he has started. We spent a lot

1130
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: of time talking about Deshaun Watson his first preseason duty.

1131
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: He was asked quite a few questions. Let's start with

1132
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: if he was rusty.

1133
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 14: No, I'm not thinking about no, Russ. I mean that

1134
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 14: was last year. I miss ball. I placed his games

1135
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 14: last year, had a four off season, So I'm not

1136
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 14: thinking about no Russ. I'm not using no excuses for

1137
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 14: no rust or anything like that. I gotta be ready

1138
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 14: for this moment, and I'm gonna be ready whenever that

1139
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 14: time is called September tenth here in the doll Pound,

1140
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 14: and I'm gonna be ready to go. We all will

1141
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 14: be so all that Russ and all the other stuff

1142
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 14: that's left in twenty twenty two, I'm focused on twenty

1143
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 14: twenty three and making sure that I'm ready for September tent.

1144
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: You and I talk about it all the time about

1145
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: how we just you know, in a way we don't

1146
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: want to rush away summer, but at the same time,

1147
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: let's just get to September tenth. The only person who

1148
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: wants that more than us is Deshaun Watson.

1149
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it was good for him to

1150
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 4: gain and get out there feel the speed of the

1151
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 4: game that was against the defensive front. By the way

1152
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 4: they were all out there, Montes swept Chase Young, Jonathan Allen,

1153
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: Deron Payin. So you want to get a good look,

1154
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 4: you want a real look, Like that's as real a

1155
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 4: look as you're gonna get up front in the NFL,

1156
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: and that's good preparation for what you know, he's gonna

1157
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: get here in a controlled environment where you know he's

1158
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 4: not going to be hit.

1159
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want you want to stack? How good are we?

1160
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna that defensive line from Washington on Friday? And

1161
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 2: this Eagles one. You saw Jalen Carter in his first snap?

1162
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: I did that? What was it? Dominic? Yep, they're loaded.

1163
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. He Jalen Carter was the He was the He's

1164
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: as sure as anything in last year's draft. He just

1165
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: fell because of for obvious reasons off the field, but

1166
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: he was the surest thing in the draft in terms

1167
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: of the talent that was going to be an absolute lock.

1168
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: Watson was asked how comfortably he is in the offense

1169
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: this year. Here's what he had to.

1170
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 6: Say, Way better than last year.

1171
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 14: You know, it was so much going on last year

1172
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 14: and just really just trying to play catch up and

1173
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 14: get to know everyone and new system and everything. But

1174
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 14: you know, having a full off season and being able

1175
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 14: to lock in with the guys and run the first

1176
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 14: team offense all the way through, it's definitely been a

1177
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 14: help for myself and the confidence to get ready for

1178
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 14: this season.

1179
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: Finally, DeShawn was asked how far the Browns can go

1180
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 2: this season. Here's what he had to say.

1181
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the plan.

1182
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 14: Everyone is, you know, giving me the keys and they

1183
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 14: are following my lead. So as far as I go,

1184
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 14: this offense going, this team go, and you know, the energy,

1185
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,959
Speaker 14: the the plays to really just controlling leading this team

1186
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 14: is gonna go as far as as myself. So you know,

1187
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 14: I got to make Sean prepared each and every moment,

1188
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 14: each and every opportunity, and I just got to go

1189
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 14: out there and do what I do and just be myself.

1190
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: You know, we've talked going back to Mini caamp and

1191
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: through the start of training camp Z and how great

1192
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: he's looked consistently great practice after practice after practice. What

1193
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: you'll see tonight and tomorrow that you're gonna have a

1194
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: pretty good idea where we are and where he is specifically.

1195
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and he's right. I mean, at the end

1196
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 4: of the day, we've made a lot of moves, so

1197
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 4: we can win games in a variety of ways. But

1198
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: the ultimate path this team takes, the pinnacle of this

1199
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: team's success in twenty twenty three is going to be

1200
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: linked to the play of Deshaun Watson. It's a quarterback league.

1201
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 4: That's just the bottom line. That is true of every team.

1202
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 4: They can say about their starting quarterback. But Deshaun Watson

1203
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 4: has done it at a very high level in the past.

1204
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: And I kind of like the talk that I'm hearing,

1205
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 4: you know, around owned our organization from the very very

1206
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 4: top and from the head coach and from the quarterback himself,

1207
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 4: is people say, oh, can he get back to twenty twenties, Like,

1208
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 4: I want to be better than that.

1209
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: That wasn't the peak of my career. And so when

1210
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: that happens.

1211
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 4: If that happens, you know, this team has incredible upside.

1212
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 3: I think he looks good.

1213
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 4: I think looks comfortable as ball placement's good, have been

1214
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: good all camp. You can see up comfortably in the pocket.

1215
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 4: He can extend some drives with his legs.

1216
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 3: Noe.

1217
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: What we didn't really get to see, what will get

1218
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: a lot more opportunity to see here is you know,

1219
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: just pocket passing. Now, there was some pressure that he

1220
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 4: had to get out and run away from and make

1221
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 4: plays with his legs, but uh, that's something that we're

1222
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: more interested in seeing, right, is the pocket pass and

1223
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: that's gonna be the real key over the course of

1224
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: the season.

1225
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1226
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were going to be under duress a little

1227
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: bit against Washington. You'll be under duress the next couple

1228
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: of days, you know, from time to time against Philly,

1229
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: like they're there two of the five best lines in

1230
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: the sport.

1231
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: Yes, so absolutely, yeah, very more.

1232
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: Than any anything else you want to get to offensively,

1233
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: from the from the scrimmage, defensively, anything else pop into

1234
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: mind that you want to bring attention to.

1235
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: No, I think it will get into the scrimmage a

1236
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 4: little later on. I just think overall, what you saw

1237
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 4: was very crisp operation. It was like it was, in

1238
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: many ways a carryover of a lot of things we've

1239
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: seen been seeing this offseason. Deshaun looking good, Elijah Moore

1240
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 4: being involved. You know, it didn't work out because we

1241
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 4: missed a block and they were able to chase down David.

1242
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: A joke on that screen, but getting the chief the

1243
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: ball in space. I like the design of the play.

1244
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: It's just, you know, it takes all eleven for a

1245
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: successful planet. By the way, if you get that block

1246
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: on the backside and Tooha isn't able to chase him down,

1247
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: that's that's a big game. There were two blockers on

1248
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: front with two defenders, and so you felt pretty good

1249
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: about how that play was setting up. You know, we

1250
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: still haven't seen Nick Chubb, we haven't seen that stunned too,

1251
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 4: no need to either. And then defensively, just those new

1252
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 4: additions looking so good and the change and you know,

1253
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: Jeremiah's Cormo who you need you want to become that

1254
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: star for you. At the second level, I think you

1255
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 4: saw a lot of indications of all of those things

1256
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 4: potentially being able to happen. As this football team has

1257
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: really retooled the front of its defense and added some

1258
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 4: pieces as well on the back end. But that front

1259
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: Zadarius Dalvin Obo that just jumped out in their brief appearances,

1260
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: and that's without Miles and without Shelby Harris.

1261
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, without two fifths of the people who will be

1262
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: in the middle of that a lot of the time,

1263
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: I do think that this defense, you know, has a

1264
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: chance to be really special. There's a difference between good

1265
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: and special, and to me special To get to special,

1266
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: either j Okay or Grant Delpit needs to take that

1267
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: step to be like what we all kind of think

1268
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: they can be. If one of those two can become

1269
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: like Pro Bowl caliber players, then this defense can go

1270
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: from being a very good because the coroners are going

1271
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: to be there. I mean, there's good as it gets.

1272
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 2: The D lines as good as it gets. But either

1273
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: somebody in that linebacker corn to me, the most likely

1274
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 2: seemed to be Jokay and Delpit. If one of those

1275
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: two can go and go be a Pro Bowl player,

1276
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you can have a special defense.

1277
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 4: Yes, agreed, agreed, because then you'll have it at all

1278
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: three levels. You're gonna have, you know, certainly pro bowlers

1279
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 4: on that defensive line. You've got two of them already,

1280
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: you're gonna have. You have Pro bowlers in the secondary

1281
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position, and you want, you know, if

1282
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 4: you can get one at safety, you can get one

1283
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 4: at linebacker. All of a sudden, you're as dynamic as

1284
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 4: it can be. But I think this D much like

1285
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 4: Philly's D. You know, we know what Chauncey Gardner Johnson

1286
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 4: did with the interceptions he's moved down. We know about

1287
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 4: Sleigh and Bradbury, But what made that D go and

1288
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 4: what was the talk of that D was its defensive

1289
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 4: front and that pass rush and we have a chance

1290
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 4: to get into that kind of, you know, conversation where

1291
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: we've got a lot of guys who can get after

1292
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: it from a lot of places and don't sleep on

1293
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 4: obo okoronko. I think his numbers at the end of

1294
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: the year could be very, very good given the way

1295
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: that we're going to kind of line things up here

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Speaker 4: with Zadarius and Miles and Dalve and o Bo and

1297
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Speaker 4: Shelby Harris. I think you could see those five out

1298
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: there in pass rushing situations, and that's gonna be a

1299
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Speaker 4: lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: When you did you think, do you think he was

1301
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: down when Emerson ripped it? No, we didn't talk about that.

1302
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 4: Was way premature. That was a function premature.

1303
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: I was watching on a TV at a function and

1304
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: I saw the play in real time and and he scored,

1305
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: and then I went back. I'm like, how did we

1306
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: get the ball back? And my buddy's like, oh, they

1307
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: ruled him down. And then I never saw the replay

1308
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 2: until the next day, and I'm like, in real time,

1309
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: this had to be absurd.

1310
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: He wasn't down. They ruled that his forward progress had

1311
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: been stopped.

1312
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: Basically, they blew it, and oh they blew it boy,

1313
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 4: I mean you blew a boy.

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01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 4: That was even in slow motion when we rewatched it

1316
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 4: in the booth. It happened in an instant.

1317
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: It was.

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01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 4: It was an outrageous call. That was MJ doing exactly

1319
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 4: what he did down in Jacksonville. Yeah, ripping it out

1320
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: and taking it to the house.

1321
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: Uh. I think yeah, he got he got hose there.

1322
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: That was. That was a pick.

1323
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 4: But he's much more interested in getting those picks come

1324
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: the uh the regular season.

1325
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You you hate to I hate to throw too much

1327
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: on him, but he looks like he's ready to really go.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would think that that is correct.

1329
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he feels like there's a lot of confidence in

1330
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: the young man, just the way he's practicing, the way

1331
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: he's playing, like there's a lot of juice and self

1332
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: belief in terms of what he thinks he's capable of

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Speaker 3: So the kids would say, yeah, it means it's good.

1354
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 3: It's lit.

1355
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: Baby, does it got that rizz?

1356
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: Yo? It's got that Riz.

1357
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he's dropping on Big r Riz, but

1358
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: lots of Big r Riz talk. You gotta cap that dad,

1359
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: cap that No cop that cop that dad. You gotta

1360
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: cop that.

1361
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: You got to cop that cops. I get it.

1362
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, my I know what a

1363
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff does. And what I like to

1364
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: do is just pretend I don't. So, like if they

1365
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 2: say you got a cough that dad, I'm like, there's

1366
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: no police around. What are you talking about? I don't

1367
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: see if dad, Oh, come on, you don't know you

1368
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: know what that means. It's amazing, amazing. Had the my

1369
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: my revenge yesterday. We had the they go to school

1370
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, So we had like the final summer forsome

1371
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 2: with the boys if you will yesterday. Yeah, you gotta

1372
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: have a force them with the boys if you want

1373
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: to live a little bit. And yeah, you're out here

1374
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: trying to raise alphas. So we're out there playing. And

1375
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: so what I would do is every time they would

1376
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: like walking down a fair or whatever, I would, I

1377
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 2: would whisper to them. I'd be like, you're all dead

1378
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: men walking, You're back in school on Wednesday.

1379
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: It's all over the thought over.

1380
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: Oh they were so upset, so upset. Yeah, they did

1381
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: not like that in any way, shape or form.

1382
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: Question. Yeah, it's it's FIFA gone the way of the dinosaur.

1383
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: It's gone. Yeah, vaporized like it's I think because football.

1384
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 4: Happened, many City is never going to get it its chance, sad.

1385
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm sure you'd

1386
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: smoke him now, like he hasn't played in like three weeks,

1387
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: and it all coincided with football once football happened because

1388
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: we're five days a week. So man, the way that

1389
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: it works now is like football starts like I gotta

1390
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: we leave around five, I get home like we get

1391
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: home like seven thirty seven, and then you know, then

1392
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 2: you're trying to eat quickly and then that's your day.

1393
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: You're done.

1394
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: So there's no and Madden's Madden's dropping. Soon they'll be

1395
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: onto that. Yeah, it's over for FIFA.

1396
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm curious to see if they the

1397
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: last couple Maddens didn't take. But I've heard that didn't

1398
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: We didn't. We talk to a guy like this one's

1399
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: supposed to be. We talked to Shook and he was

1400
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: like he got some sort of a pre version of

1401
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: it and said that it was great. So Josh Allen

1402
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: on the cover, yep. That was a big conversation at

1403
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: at football practice last week was they're kind of sick

1404
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks on the cover of Madden. Kids are yeah,

1405
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: they're like, can we do they want Justin Jefferson.

1406
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 4: Odell Beckham was on the cover, Kronk was on the

1407
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: Coverton Mills, Peyton Wils was, Yeah, that was a long

1408
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 4: time go I'd say, it's been yeah, you've had recently,

1409
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 4: you had, no, you had this one will be Allen.

1410
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 4: Last year was John Madden, and it was Mahomes and

1411
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 4: Brad Mames and Mahomes and Brady for the Goat edition.

1412
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 4: Before that was Lamar Jackson, and I think before that

1413
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 4: was maybe Gronk and then Odell maybe.

1414
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's been a little minute since.

1415
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 4: We Odell was on the cover to the one year

1416
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 4: for the Giant when he was still with the Giants,

1417
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: so that would have been like sixteen seventeen, sixteen seventeen, yeah, yeah.

1418
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 5: Was Adrian Peterson on a cover. They could have been

1419
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 5: Sean Alexander yep.

1420
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: Or Sean Alexander yep.

1421
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Twenty years over though, like those yeah, yeah, yeah.

1422
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: So the kids were like they were that was a

1423
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: big conversation where they wanted to see some position players

1424
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: on the cover and of course you know Nick Chubb

1425
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: and Miles and all those got brought up to but

1426
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: the consensus was Justin Jeffers has got a lot of juice.

1427
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 4: With the Kidsessin, Efferson's the coolest cat around, and he's

1428
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: the consensus best receiver in the league.

1429
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in a group that's pretty talented across the board.

1430
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: What did you make of this Michael Ower story? So, folks,

1431
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: if you're not seeing this is dropped within the last

1432
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: I read it. Folks have seen The blind Side. It

1433
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: was based on a book, The blind Side that Sean

1434
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: and Leanne too he you know, wrote about their story

1435
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 2: with Michael Ower. And then the movie was a big deal.

1436
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: So one part of the movie was they got a

1437
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 2: couple hundred thousand dollars for the rights to the movie,

1438
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: and then they got points on the movie like two

1439
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: point five percent of the of the box office of

1440
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: the movie. So the movie made three hundred million dollars

1441
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: in the in the domestic box office. You can do

1442
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,959
Speaker 2: to math on on what that would what that would

1443
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: work for. And then they made a and then it

1444
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: streams and they get residuals from all of that. So

1445
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: Or today petitioned to court with allegations that the Twoy's

1446
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: never adopted him instead tricking him into signing a document

1447
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 2: making them his conservators and enriching themselves. That's the allegation

1448
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 2: that's made by or who's now like thirty seven years

1449
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 2: of age.

1450
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 4: Okay, So here's just here's my immediate reactions. One, if

1451
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 4: this is true, awful, awful. Two, based on everything we

1452
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 4: feel like we know about the story prior to today,

1453
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: this seems like out of left field shocking.

1454
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 3: Three, like this, why is this all happening now?

1455
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 4: Like the mindset came out a long time ago, that money,

1456
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 4: all of that happened along like over a decade ago.

1457
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: Right, oh gosh yah, yeah, yeah, So.

1458
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 4: Like the timing of it seems odd to me. He's,

1459
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 4: like you said, in his mid thirties. I mean, normally,

1460
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,959
Speaker 4: when you adopt somebody, like really the kind of reality

1461
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 4: of adopting them, And I could be wrong, doesn't that

1462
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 4: Like when they become eighteen, they're adults, Like, yes, you've

1463
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 4: adopted them, but like then they're adults anyway, right the way.

1464
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: I understood it, I don't know. Yeah, if he were

1465
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: adopted at turning eighteen, he would have then had control

1466
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: of his own story and finances and all of that.

1467
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: By allegedly tricking him into being for them being his conservators,

1468
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: they would control his financial part of it is the

1469
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: way I understand it.

1470
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 4: If that's right, and we know about conservatorships now with

1471
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 4: Britney Spears, Fears brought that thing that nobody really knew

1472
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 4: about to light. I guess I have a heart at

1473
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 4: why wasn't this discovered or why I had I don't

1474
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 4: I did. The timing of it just makes no sense

1475
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: to me, it.

1476
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: Does, I agree. I think it's it's the timing is

1477
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 2: certainly odd.

1478
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: Like he would have known this, or some lawyer would

1479
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 4: have come and said, hey, dude, you should have made

1480
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 4: all this money, or his agent, like, think about it.

1481
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 4: He was an NFL player, he had agents. He made

1482
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 4: money in the NFL. Like some agent would be like, dude,

1483
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 4: where's your movie money? Well, like, I just it just

1484
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 4: seems crazy to me that this is happening now. In

1485
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 4: August of twenty twenty three.

1486
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: So he wrote he wrote his own book about with

1487
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: a buddy of mine, Don Yaeger, who used to work

1488
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: for Sports Illustrated. He wrote his own book and the

1489
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: reason he wrote his own book. So Michael Lewis wrote

1490
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: that one and then he wrote his own, which was

1491
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: I think I beat the odds. Yeah, I beat the

1492
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: odds from Homelessness to Blindside and beyond in twenty eleven,

1493
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: and my buddy Don Yeger, I'm pretty sure was the

1494
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: was helping with the writing of that. I'm almost certain

1495
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: of it. So that that part in his beef was

1496
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: that there were some differences in the movie to the reality.

1497
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: But I just assume, like in a movie, you're gonna

1498
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 2: take some liberties, dramatic liberties.

1499
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 4: Either glamorize or sure right, you're gonna the hives will

1500
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 4: be higher, the lows might be look lower to drive

1501
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 4: home the point and the drama and all of that. Yeah,

1502
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 4: but he was involved, if I'm not mistaken in all

1503
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 4: of the like press for the movie and.

1504
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: That I can't remember. I can't remember that. I'm sure

1505
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,440
Speaker 2: it feels.

1506
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't. It was never contentious.

1507
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 4: It was never never no, no, not my story, this

1508
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 4: is BS.

1509
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was no. There was none of

1510
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: that around it. I mean he played a ten NFL games.

1511
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he had made That's what I'm saying.

1512
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 4: He had agents and lawyers and like business people and

1513
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 4: money managers around him at that time. For sure. So

1514
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 4: I don't understand like how this if this was true

1515
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 4: what it is on paper, and maybe it is, but

1516
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 4: like these people are also very public with their story

1517
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 4: and like it.

1518
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: Just yeah, he alleges that, like they continue to make

1519
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: money off of it. She's like a public speaker and

1520
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: she's making money off of it. I think he's the

1521
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: I think the dad is like the one of the

1522
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: voices of the Memphis Grizzlies or was really Yeah, I

1523
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: think he does like color commentary on Grizzlies games. I

1524
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: think that's true.

1525
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 3: Holy molely. It just.

1526
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: I mean when you watch the movie, you feel miss

1527
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 2: standout athlete.

1528
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 3: You feel like you know that those you know, Sander

1529
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: Bullock tremendous, right.

1530
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's it's hard to get my head around.

1531
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 4: But it's the same time, like, if it's true, it's horrific.

1532
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 4: But again, I here's if the Blindside just came out right,

1533
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden he real they have

1534
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: all this money and he got none of it. That

1535
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 4: makes sense to me that then he's like, wait, what's

1536
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 4: the deal here, or somebody in his camp at the time,

1537
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 4: because when the blind takee came out, wasn't he already

1538
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 4: in the league. Yes, yeah, there are people around him

1539
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 4: whose jobs it would be and who's in own their

1540
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 4: own self interest. It would be to discover this and

1541
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 4: make sure, like dude, where's your blindside mind? We should

1542
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 4: be investing this, and blah blah blah blah blah blah

1543
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. It's just the timing of it. I

1544
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: don't I can't comprehend the timing of it.

1545
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: Agreed, It's very odd. Yeah too. He's been a broadcast

1546
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 2: with the Grizzly since two thousand and one. He was

1547
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: a basketball player at Ole Miss, so he's you know

1548
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: that was.

1549
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: He's done Westwood one, CBS Radio. Yeah wow.

1550
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean he owned one hundred and fifteen fast food

1551
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: franchises through the years, and as anyone who's been in that,

1552
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: that's pretty lucrative business. Taco Bell, Chicken, Kentucky Fried Chicken,

1553
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: Pizza Hut, Long John Silver's. Now he has eleven. He

1554
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 2: sold the majority in six different transactions.

1555
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 4: So so he right, they've got plenty of dough. It

1556
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like they would need to, Yeah, do that,

1557
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 4: He's made I'm sure plenty of I just I guess

1558
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 4: I just understand where the time and where it's all

1559
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 4: coming from.

1560
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: Why and why now?

1561
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 4: And it's not like he didn't have a platform to

1562
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 4: express his displeasure that if it ever existed.

1563
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 2: Oh, at any point. Yeah, I mean he last playing

1564
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: in the league in twenty sixteen.

1565
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1566
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: There's plenty of time to get to the bottom of that.

1567
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: So odd story. It happened just before we started the

1568
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: program here.

1569
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 4: And the thing that's wild about it is if you're,

1570
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 4: like we have in the room ESPN's on in the background,

1571
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 4: the nuance that exists in our society anymore for something

1572
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 4: that's just been alleged is gone. So like right now

1573
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 4: it's as if all of this is true, and it

1574
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 4: very well.

1575
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: Maybe I just don't know. It just seems the timing

1576
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,480
Speaker 3: of it seems hard for me to understand.

1577
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 2: I agree, I would. I that's with the.

1578
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 3: Veracity of the allegations.

1579
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 2: I just know. But it's also of it. You can't

1580
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: just run this and say this is what happened either,

1581
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: and that's what's happening right now in our society. It's

1582
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: like you make an allegation all of a sudden, it's

1583
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 2: the real truth.

1584
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 3: It's yeah, It's the real truth, Bootsy.

1585
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. What did you make of the story

1586
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: coming out over the weekend that John Lynch wanted Fields

1587
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: and Shanahan wanted Trey Lance. This was came after Lance

1588
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: really struggled in their preseason debut.

1589
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 3: To me, threw a great touchdown.

1590
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: So I just wonder, like, do you make anything of

1591
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: the timing of like it now coming out of Niners

1592
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: camp that Lynch wanted Fields.

1593
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 4: So, first of all, that kind of stuff doesn't surprise me.

1594
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 4: People all people have different evaluations, you know what I mean,

1595
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 4: So like that he would prefer Fields and Kyle would

1596
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 4: prefer Lance. That doesn't That doesn't surprise me at all.

1597
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 4: It coming is, it's coming out. It coming out is

1598
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 4: a little bit odd.

1599
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's troubles on the hot seat.

1600
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 4: Can I just because I've read it too, but where

1601
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,440
Speaker 4: did it originate?

1602
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 3: Can you tell me that.

1603
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't find it. I was trying to track down

1604
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: where it originated from. It's been everywhere today, but I

1605
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: don't I'm not sure exactly where it originated from. I

1606
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 2: mean went on to say that it was kind of specific,

1607
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: like it said that what Kyle was interested in was

1608
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: the fact that Fields didn't throw off platform enough yep.

1609
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: And he was mostly a pocket guy at Ohio State,

1610
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 2: so that was where his beef was. It is one

1611
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: of the great what ifs because they've won despite it.

1612
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 2: They'veon't been one of the best teams despite it. But

1613
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 2: what the Dolphins got in exchange ends up being Tyreek Kill,

1614
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb, and Jaalen Waddle.

1615
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 3: Well, right, you could have all that, yeah, justin Fields.

1616
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, no, no, it obviously becomes it's a

1617
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 4: it's a problem to be sure, I would say that.

1618
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 4: My guess is it's probably one of those things that's

1619
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 4: like know and people have talked about. It's not a

1620
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 4: big deal, Like there plenty of people come in and

1621
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 4: out of the organization, you know that maybe, but I

1622
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 4: don't bet their scouting department is not exactly the same

1623
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: as it was then. So my guess is that's something

1624
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 4: that's factual. They obviously had some details about why it happened,

1625
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 4: but obviously as an organization, they all agreed ultimately to

1626
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 4: make that decision. Otherwise they wouldn't have done.

1627
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:22,919
Speaker 3: It, you know, So on it there is no fracture

1628
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: between Kyle and John Lynch, No so my guess is

1629
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 3: this is coming out from somebody who maybe worked there

1630
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 3: that now let's say, works for another NFC team and

1631
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: wants to just ruffle some feathers, or it came.

1632
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 2: From just Bilt Kyle.

1633
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:38,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly.

1634
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 4: Somebody wants to ruffle some feathers over there, or is

1635
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 4: the great Gibbet would say, rattle some case.

1636
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 2: A couple other quick hitters here. Jonathan Taylor is going

1637
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 2: to report to camp soon, but he says he won't

1638
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: play unless he's one hundred percent.

1639
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 3: What what what are you doing? You have no leverage.

1640
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: It's personal between camp. They made it personal and they Yeah,

1641
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: it's going to be ugly. That's been a you know what, guys,

1642
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: honestly really dysfunctional organization since Peyton Manning left. Yes, I

1643
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: mean they fell into a lot literally, but it's been

1644
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: up crazy since Manning left. Honestly, like they can't see it.

1645
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: They've had a ton of talent through the years and

1646
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: feel like they're close and starts and stops. So yeah,

1647
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 2: just not a lot of stability there. The Ravens activating

1648
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: running back, They've activated JK.

1649
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: Dobbins.

1650
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: I sign him at practice off the pup list. Yeah,

1651
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: so he's a full go over there, zach Ertz cleared

1652
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,919
Speaker 2: to return from an ACL tear from last season, Gendevian

1653
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: Clowney visiting with the Jaguars over the weekend, and so

1654
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: there you go. A couple of other things. The momentum

1655
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm starting to hear from Cincinnati's that Burrow will be

1656
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: ready for the opener. He threw without a leg sleeve

1657
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: in the warm up of their preseason game on Friday

1658
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: and was throwing at fifty yards downfield without much hesitation.

1659
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: And he was at practice today, not practicing, but just

1660
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 2: in short snow brace on his calf and throwing the ball.

1661
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: So it looks like he's matriculating towards being there for

1662
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: the opener, which is what I want.

1663
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 4: I always thought he was going to play in Week

1664
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 4: one anyway, you wouldn't complain if it happened. But let

1665
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 4: me in those warm ups that they showed that was

1666
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 4: not his normal throwing motion.

1667
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: No, I think he was aware of the leg. He's

1668
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: definitely compensated.

1669
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: He was not pushing off his back.

1670
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: Leg, no, none, No, huh. I'm sure they've told him

1671
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 2: not to. Like right, you can throw, but we're not

1672
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 2: going to do We're not how we normally do at all.

1673
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 2: It's interesting you brought up the lance like preseason can

1674
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 2: be deceiving, right, So that same thing happened but different,

1675
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 2: same but different with Justin Field. So Fields went three

1676
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 2: for three for one hundred and twenty nine and two

1677
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 2: touchdowns and the Bears he had two drives. Neither one

1678
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 2: of his throws that went for touchdowns. Did the ball

1679
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: travel across the line of scrimmage?

1680
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 3: That's right.

1681
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm as big a field guys, you're gonna

1682
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: find leaving him. I think I think the Niners I

1683
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: would have loved for them to have him. I think

1684
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: he would have thrived there. I think they would, especially

1685
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: with Tyreek Kill and Jalen Waddle. My god, But like

1686
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: the notion that that was some sort of greatness, not

1687
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 2: not that's what could happen in preseason.

1688
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 4: It shows why I was smart for them to get

1689
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 4: DJ Moore. You get a real wide receiver and in

1690
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 4: a game break and Khalil Herbert has been kind of

1691
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 4: waiting in the wings, waiting for his opportunity with David

1692
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 4: Montgomery gone, and he had a nice catch and run there.

1693
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 4: So there there are definitely some talent on that team

1694
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 4: and and yeah, that's not If you looked at it,

1695
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 4: you're probably like, oh my guy, through two fifty yard dots?

1696
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 3: No through two one, two screens.

1697
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: Two screens?

1698
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 3: Is what about to do? All right?

1699
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: So there you go around the league? What do we

1700
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: expect from the practices tonight till tomorrow night? We'll get

1701
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 2: you set for those coming up next. List to Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Thirty minute stuff?

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1718
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Speaker 5: that looks like it could be.

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Speaker 2: You can bird it. Do they have burdens it?

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Speaker 3: What is that? That's not that's not any of the

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Speaker 3: stuff that you're looking for. I don't know. It's like,

1722
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: is it Thursday yet?

1723
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: No, that's mine I was.

1724
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 3: I came here.

1725
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 4: I came here a few years ago with the kids

1726
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 4: for the Royal Rumble and we did all the you know, independence,

1727
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 4: all all.

1728
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 3: Of the goosie rocky. Oh maybe we are close to independence.

1729
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: Hall oh yeah.

1730
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 5: Kind of looks like something over there, William Penn on

1731
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 5: the top of that thing. Uh no, no, this is

1732
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 5: not on what we can see. But yeah, it must

1733
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 5: be in this little area over here where all this

1734
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 5: this stuff is.

1735
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 4: It's it's only half of us. So we told me

1736
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 4: earlier today it's a thirty minute walk. That's not thirty

1737
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 4: that's not thirty minutes. Who's walking anywhere in thirty minutes.

1738
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 4: It's ninety degrees right now, it's a fifteen minute walk,

1739
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 4: So a thirty minute round trip. I guess yikes. Yeah,

1740
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 4: so I guess we're we are. That's got that's gotta

1741
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 4: be it. That era what all those trees are? So

1742
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 4: we did that that sight seeing stuff when I was

1743
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 4: here with the kids.

1744
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 3: It's great. And I'm a big.

1745
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 4: Colonial American history buff as you know, so it's great

1746
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 4: to kind of walk and what why is that funny?

1747
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 3: It's true. It's just I know, but you said, what

1748
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 3: was the one that I called you out for? Twelve?

1749
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 4: Officionado that I am doesn't exist anymore.

1750
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 3: Get out of here.

1751
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 4: It's true, Gibbet rip the PAC twelve. I remember PAC

1752
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 4: ten the glory days.

1753
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 3: But no, Philly's a Phillies. Philly's a good town where just.

1754
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 2: I've never been.

1755
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 4: Hey, are you going to see b Westbrook? Yeah, he's

1756
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 4: coming today. He's gonna be a practice to day. We

1757
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 4: might break up break bread with him later me in

1758
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 4: the hof.

1759
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 8: So.

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01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: The William Penn Statue is located atop Philadelphia City Hall.

1761
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: It was installed in eighteen ninety four. Uh yeah, for

1762
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: ninety years an unwritten jen One's agreement for any building

1763
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: in the city from rising above the hat on the

1764
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: Pen statue. That agreement ended in nineteen eighty five, and

1765
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 2: then away you go for that long. That's pretty good.

1766
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how like DC is right. Nothing can be taller,

1767
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 4: yeah than the Capitol.

1768
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: Can't have it, can't have it. When you order a

1769
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 2: cheese steak over there, do they does it come with

1770
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,480
Speaker 2: Wiz naturally or do they do provol It's always.

1771
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 4: Curious about that the ones where you go to, like

1772
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 4: the places like Genos and all that, that's a whiz

1773
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 4: that's Whiz Central.

1774
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not a Whiz guy.

1775
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, like because in my head, when I

1776
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 2: think of Philly cheese steak, it's always with Wiz. But

1777
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: anytime you get it anywhere else in the world, it's

1778
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 2: with Provolon.

1779
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. And it's it's not only is it

1780
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 4: with Wiz. It's like that meat that's like so fine,

1781
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 4: it's like dust. It's like steak dust. Yeah, I want

1782
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 4: to ice like a LCE flame steak chopped up with

1783
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 4: a little.

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01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: What would be asked? If ask you that, like where

1785
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 2: would be? Because I think I've tried and he gave

1786
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 2: like a bunch of answers, like what would be the

1787
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: where do Philly people go have the cheese?

1788
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 3: Say I have reached out.

1789
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 5: I don't think they saw him at lunch and he said, Gibbs,

1790
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 5: I will email you a list of three or four

1791
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 5: places from pizza to cheese.

1792
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 2: That's what I want that's the list I want to go.

1793
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 3: Where are where? Where am I going here?

1794
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1795
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 3: You want to recommendations because I like his style of pizza.

1796
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: How's he like? It is the New York style or

1797
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: what's he like?

1798
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1799
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 4: Like Il Rione that place is that's a tasty place, all.

1800
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 2: Right, very good? So that so we'll get that. I

1801
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,480
Speaker 2: look forward to that list with the correct establishment.

1802
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to seeing today? Yeah, get

1803
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 3: us back on.

1804
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: I want to get in there, GiB like, I'm driving

1805
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: the thing here. We got some time here, I got

1806
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: we got five.

1807
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 3: We got five minutes.

1808
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 2: We'll get there. Give it z. What are you looking

1809
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: for today?

1810
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 3: Number one?

1811
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 4: I'm looking for us to get off this bus with

1812
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 4: the same confidence that I saw the Eagles get off

1813
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 4: the bus with left.

1814
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: Oh boy.

1815
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 4: So that's first and foremost, Like I want to see

1816
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 4: this is a team that has enough dudes on it

1817
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 4: that they we shouldn't be afraid of anybody. We should

1818
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 4: come off there saying we're gonna go on this field

1819
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 4: and you know what, you won the NFC. This is

1820
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 4: this isn't the NFC. We're gonna kick your butts. And

1821
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 4: then I want to see us back that up. I

1822
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 4: want us to see us match them at the point

1823
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 4: of attack on both sides of the ball.

1824
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: I want to see us. I want to see Deshaun

1825
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 3: looking good.

1826
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 4: But more than anything, I want to see this team

1827
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 4: have the swagger and then back it up because if

1828
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: it comes out of this and it should be back

1829
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 4: and forth, they're gonna make some plays. We should make

1830
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 4: some plays both sides of the ball. But if we

1831
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 4: come out of there feeling like, all right, we're this

1832
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: is absolutely the type in brand of football and the

1833
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 4: quality of football that we're going to be playing all year.

1834
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 4: You know that this team has made a big improvement

1835
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 4: year over year. To me, this is a measuring stick.

1836
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 4: We had the opportunity of these joint practices last year

1837
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 4: with the Eagles. We saw what that looked like, and

1838
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't terrible last year, but you knew

1839
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 4: that they were a cut above and then they got

1840
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 4: better as the season went on, because I think Jalen

1841
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 4: Hurts as he continued to get confidence, he got better

1842
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 4: this team. Now you know we they should not be

1843
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 4: a cut above us. You put our roster up against theirs,

1844
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 4: Phillies may have the best roster in the NFL.

1845
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 3: We're right there with them.

1846
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 4: We're right there at all the key positions, so you

1847
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 4: know we have got to show that.

1848
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's most It was most noticeable

1849
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: last year in the two fronts obviously, I mean they

1850
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: were just so physical. My god, Like, I'll never forget

1851
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: seeing Jordan Davis walk off and just went that, dude's

1852
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: in the two deep. He's not even the dude.

1853
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 6: Like.

1854
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: They had so much depth of talent on the on

1855
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: the defensive interior, and they wrote it all the way to.

1856
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.

1857
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 4: So they did that, and I know that that'll be

1858
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 4: You'll know, our offensive line, I'm not worried about. I

1859
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 4: think the biggest difference is going to be in their

1860
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 4: ability to just manhandle our defensive line. I think that's

1861
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 4: over with. And it was Miles, you know, fighting a

1862
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 4: lot by himself. Clowney still putting some good stuff. But

1863
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 4: in the interior, you know, from Tave and Brian and

1864
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 4: Jordan Elliet and Tame Brian had three sacks us here.

1865
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 3: He did fine.

1866
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 4: But to go from those guys to Dalvin and Shelby Harrison,

1867
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 4: to go to the power of Zadarias Smith and then

1868
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 4: in our next way be able to bring it over

1869
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: like this is a very we remade this front. And

1870
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 4: I think it had a lot to do with number

1871
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 4: one getting Miles help. But at number two, I think

1872
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 4: it had a lot to do with those joint practices.

1873
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 4: And you know, he worked in Philly. He understands the philosophy.

1874
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 4: He understands what how he Roseman has put together and

1875
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 4: why they are what they are, and I think andreonrew

1876
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 4: Berry went out to address that, and this is gonna

1877
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 4: be the first opportunity to really see that like to

1878
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 4: we saw it against the Commanders, like there's no doubt, Zadarius.

1879
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, dude, no doubt about it.

1880
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 4: But now we get a chance to see this against

1881
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 4: you know, the Philadelphia Eagles, the NFC champions.

1882
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, gonna be fun. Gonna be fun tonight at practice.

1883
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,480
Speaker 2: They'll do it tonight, they'll do it again on Tuesday.

1884
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 2: We'll have a full breakdown of it all for you

1885
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow on the program. Between now and then,

1886
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: the next level is coming up. Next thing shall listen

1887
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,799
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