WEBVTT - Best NFL Week 13 Bets + Favorite Props (Ep. 31)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there everyone, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Harris and you can find me on Twitter at Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Harris Ady. We are recording our usual Thursday episode on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday this week in lin of Thanksgiving. Good news is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Thursday games are on the table, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you'll even be able to get some betting action in

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<v Speaker 1>with your turkey and pumpkin pie. As always, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be breaking down some of our favorite and our

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<v Speaker 1>least favorite bets for the week thirteen NFL slate. And

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<v Speaker 1>with me to talk about it all is Steve Merrill,

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<v Speaker 1>a professional handicapper and owner of Pro sportsinfo dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find him on Twitter at his name at

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Merrill. That's me E R R I L Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going, Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing well? What's your Thanksgiving look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Usually?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you just parked them from the TV

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<v Speaker 1>watching the games all day? You got a big family thing?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? This is my twenty fourth year as a

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<v Speaker 2>full time professional handicapper. I started Pro SPORTSMFO dot com

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<v Speaker 2>back in ninetheen ninety six, so twenty four football seasons

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<v Speaker 2>now over half my life as a professional. So unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>this time of year, the holidays is the busiest time

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<v Speaker 2>of year for me. You know, my off season is

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<v Speaker 2>July when there's a little bit of baseball going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, this time of year with the holidays, it's busy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's fun also because you get the family element.

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<v Speaker 2>You also get the football element. And know it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same as the bowl season coming up next month with

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<v Speaker 2>college football. So yeah, the holidays and the weekends, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a reverse holl you know, Tuesday and Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>or my off days. The weekends and the holidays are busy,

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<v Speaker 2>and Thanksgivings great because you get that tripleheader of NFL action.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. Yeah, well, as we were talking about before

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<v Speaker 1>we started recording, this is not your first show of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. You've been doing quite a bit of work today,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get onto it and we can get you

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<v Speaker 1>on so you can have you know, five minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>catch your breath on the day. As usual, Steve and

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<v Speaker 1>I are going to be breaking down three of our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>bets of the week, one bet to avoid and one

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<v Speaker 1>prop bet that we're interested in. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into it, let's do some full disclosure revisit last week's picks.

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<v Speaker 1>I hit on the Seahawks getting one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>from the Eagles, Bengals getting six and a half from

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers, but I missed on the Packers and the

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<v Speaker 1>Niners over forty seven and a half, and on my

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<v Speaker 1>top prop, which was Oldell Beckham Junior going over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards, he fell just a bit short. Our guest

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Smith hit on the Jets getting three from the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders and the Ravens giving three did the Rams, but

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<v Speaker 1>he missed on the Dolphins getting ten and a half

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<v Speaker 1>against the Browns and Darren Waller over fifty receiving yards.

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<v Speaker 1>So a bit of a mix bag for both of us, Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>People have turkey to eat, injuries to fake so they

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<v Speaker 1>can line bed and watch football. So go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>get us started. What's your first pick of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna start with one of this. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>use all the Sunday games here, so give the listeners

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<v Speaker 2>a little extra time to get him into their joining this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know on Friday or Saturday. And the first game

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<v Speaker 2>I want to look at is actually one of the

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<v Speaker 2>early kickoff games on Sunday, December first, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're looking at games all of next month taking place,

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<v Speaker 2>so no November games here. It's hard to believe December

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<v Speaker 2>is here. But you can take a look at the

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<v Speaker 2>green Bay Packers though they're at the Giants, and this

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<v Speaker 2>line's been moving around this week. You know, seven is

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<v Speaker 2>a very key number in the NFL, the second most

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<v Speaker 2>key number after three. About five percent of the time

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<v Speaker 2>favorites win back exactly seven points, and this line was

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<v Speaker 2>seven and a half initially early in the week. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a solid six and a half across the board

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<v Speaker 2>in almost all locations, and I think there's some value

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<v Speaker 2>now with the Packers laying less than a touchdown. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a green Bay team that was in a terrible

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<v Speaker 2>matchup last Sunday night against San Francisco. You know, many

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<v Speaker 2>of the shows I did last week asked me about

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<v Speaker 2>that game because it was a big spotlight game, and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things I jumped out to me was

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the forty nine Ers pass defense has

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<v Speaker 2>been as good as anyone's in the league this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and Green Bay does not run the ball well. They're

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<v Speaker 2>a pass happy offense with Aaron Rodgers so it was

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible matchup. It showed as they managed only eight points.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think this is a bounce back spot. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I always like to play Class eight teams, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be the NBA or the NFL. Awful loss. Packer's still

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<v Speaker 2>eight and three on the season, the Giants two to nine.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a focused spot. And then he had the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Giants have one of the worst pass

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<v Speaker 2>defenses in the NFL game up over eight yards per pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to can trust that with San Francisco. The Niners

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<v Speaker 2>allow four point six, the Giants allow eight point one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how much of a difference it is from last

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<v Speaker 2>week to this week. I think the Packers take full

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<v Speaker 2>advantage in a double win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everything sets up well for the Packers in this game, particularly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just you know, it's more of a narrative

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, you know, rather than you know, statistical

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<v Speaker 1>sports handicapping or anything like that. But obviously they're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>desperate now for the win, and they were embarrassed on

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<v Speaker 1>national television, So this sets up as a game where

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to come in and go hard. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm i'm I want to ask you about since

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<v Speaker 1>you're obviously professional handicapper is from everything I'm looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't have all the data, but it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the vast majority of both the number of

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<v Speaker 1>bets and the money are coming in on the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>and this game. But I'm not sure why the line

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<v Speaker 1>then has gone down from seven and a half to six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. Is that just a factor of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, you know, the look at line of seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half the Packers looked so terrible coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, against the Niners, that would account for the

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<v Speaker 1>line movement, or because you know, ordinarily, when you see

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that much money in particular coming in on

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<v Speaker 1>one side, you would expect the line to go up

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<v Speaker 1>rather than down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to be honest, the look ahead seven and a

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<v Speaker 2>half line really was, as you said, before that game

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off on Sunday night. Most sportsbooks ever opened any

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<v Speaker 2>higher than seven after that, and some that open up

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday and Tuesday have always been six and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>So gosh, you know, there was briefly a seven and

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<v Speaker 2>a half out there, but realistically the opener was probably

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<v Speaker 2>seven even six and a half. But you bring up

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<v Speaker 2>a good point. Normally in the NFL, I am rarely

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of the public, and this does look

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<v Speaker 2>like a public pick. I think it might be a

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<v Speaker 2>little less public though, as you mentioned, because Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>looked so bad last week and the odds makers probably

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<v Speaker 2>adjusted that in. I wouldn't be surprised to see this

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<v Speaker 2>game hit seven though by Sunday. I think the public

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<v Speaker 2>will come back in and push it back to that

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<v Speaker 2>key number.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do like it below the key number. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look, I agree with the point about the public,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes it's all right. I mean, the public exactly

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<v Speaker 1>certainly back in the Ravens this past week against the Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was fine with that. As for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to take the Rams, who were embarrassed laying

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<v Speaker 1>three did the Cardinals, and the Cardinals have been a

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<v Speaker 1>tough team to bet against. There almost been a guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>cover for pretty much the entire season. They're five to

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<v Speaker 1>one and one against the spread over their last seven games.

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<v Speaker 1>They're home, they're coming off a bye, So certainly, on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface, things look good here for the Cardinals. Not

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<v Speaker 1>as well for the Rams to cover the three points spread.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I just mentioned how the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>extremely desperate. They're not quite as desperate as the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, they're six and five with the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers, the Seahawks. They have almost no chance at

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<v Speaker 1>a wild card if they don't win this game, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to and I think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to win big. The offense has looked broken. Jared Goff

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<v Speaker 1>did not throw a touchdown pass in the month of November.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been held to seventeen points or less in three

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<v Speaker 1>straight games. But this is kind of the matchup that

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<v Speaker 1>the Doctor ordered. The Cardinals, ring twenty ninth in defensive DVOA,

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<v Speaker 1>thirtieth in points allowed per game, thirty first in yards

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<v Speaker 1>allowed per game, thirty second in passing yards allowed per game.

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<v Speaker 1>This just gives me that feeling where you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams got shut down by the forty nine ers a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks back, and then they bounce back big and

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed the Falcons thirty seven to ten. Their offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>is terrible, but they have all three of their receivers back.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be able to use play action. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to be able to get on back

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<v Speaker 1>on track here and put up some points offensively. And

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals look they'll be able to put up points too.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been doing it a lot lately, despite two of

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<v Speaker 1>their last three matchups being against the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, even though you know, the Rams were

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<v Speaker 1>completely blown out by the Ravens, they've been very solid

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<v Speaker 1>defensively overall, particularly since trading for Jalen Ramsey. They're eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>in defensive DVOA and with the Cardinals offensive line struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, generally speaking, I think that Kyler Murray's is

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be dealing with, you know, some pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and he's able to escape it. But at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll be able to slow down the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>enough to get out here with the big leads. So

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<v Speaker 1>at three, I think the worst case for me I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at is a push. I feel pretty confident that

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams are going to win the game, So I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like here they're going to win my more than three,

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<v Speaker 1>But at absolute worst, I take him there. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take the Rams lang three, even though they're on the

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<v Speaker 1>road against the Cardinals team off a bye, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the real X factor there, as you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it, is the bye week. You know, you never

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<v Speaker 2>know how teams respond from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Buye.

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<v Speaker 2>In general, when people ask me how do you handicap

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<v Speaker 2>by weeks in the NFL? I always say I take

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<v Speaker 2>a contrarian view, meaning that if you know a team

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<v Speaker 2>is red hot, sometimes they regress. If a team is

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<v Speaker 2>really struggling, they play well. Textbook example. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>was the Atlanta Falcons terrible for the start of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>They had that buy a few weeks when they come

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<v Speaker 2>out back to back underdog wins, including the Saints. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see if it helps the Cardinals. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>buye came in a really good time for them. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the team that was on a four game

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<v Speaker 2>losing streak heading into the bye week. But they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a good team still, and at some point I expect

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams to wake up. I thought there was value

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<v Speaker 2>with them on Monday Night. I had a plan them

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<v Speaker 2>at plus three and a half for my clients. It

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<v Speaker 2>obviously did not work out. I thought that line was

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculously inflated based on how good the Ravens had looked.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, LA's probably maybe what a six point favorite

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<v Speaker 2>when the season begins against Baltimore than they were three

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<v Speaker 2>and a half point dog this week. But with that said,

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<v Speaker 2>they have underachieved. I also liked them the week before

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<v Speaker 2>against Pittsburgh, so I don't disagree with you. It's two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks in a row. I've lost with the Rams. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably not the best person to ask, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as you know when to play them. But that

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl loser situation seems to work a year after

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<v Speaker 2>year where they always regress. And LA's definitely having a

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<v Speaker 2>down season so far, and it'll be interesting if they

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<v Speaker 2>can't take advantage of areas out of this week. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be very careful with them going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, And again I'm completely with you. I was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly on the Rams early on, and look, the Rams were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the sharp side really, you know, against the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens this past week. But it was just one of

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<v Speaker 1>these things where you know, I think if you have

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<v Speaker 1>any remote pass rush, I think golf is just useless

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<v Speaker 1>essentially at this point. And I really don't expect the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals to be able to get pressure on them, and

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, I think that they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put up points. So, you know, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>if they lose this game, then you know, forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can forget them for the rest of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm willing to roll with them one more time

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<v Speaker 1>at a point where they're probably most desperate all the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to your second pick. What do you got here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna look at an over under. And since

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the Ravens, this is a good transition

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<v Speaker 2>into the forty nine Er Ravens game. You know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned this earlier with my Packers selection. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a great matchup for San Francisco last week

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<v Speaker 2>because they have the best pass defense in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>But the forty nine Ers run defense has been very

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<v Speaker 2>suspect this year. They allow four point seven yards per carry,

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<v Speaker 2>and now they're facing the best rushing attack in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL and the Baltimore Ravens. Now, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily jump on the Ravens though as a side pick,

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<v Speaker 2>because as I mentioned, the public is all over them.

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<v Speaker 2>The line just continues to be inflated. I was even

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<v Speaker 2>surprised to see that six this week. In this game,

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco has been as good as anybody in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, the odds makers are saying the Ravens are

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<v Speaker 2>three points better at least than San Francisco maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>just two points, because home field could worth be worth

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<v Speaker 2>about four here it is a west coast to east

0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.760
<v Speaker 2>coast spot. Both teams played the Sunday and Monday night

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<v Speaker 2>primetime games, but this will be a ten am Pacific

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<v Speaker 2>kickoff for San Francisco, so I'd be careful with them,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't necessarily want Baltimore even with the inflated price.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the best way to play this game is

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<v Speaker 2>the over under, and the over looks like the way

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<v Speaker 2>to go. I mean, obviously, the Ravens have been an

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<v Speaker 2>offensive juggernaut this season, but the total is just forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven in this game, and that's because San Francisco's defensive

0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.520
<v Speaker 2>numbers have been so good. This is really crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at it. San Francisco averages thirty points

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<v Speaker 2>a game, the Ravens averaged thirty five points a game.

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<v Speaker 2>At sixty five, the totals forty seven. Now, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>isn't because Baltimore's defense is great. They allow eighteen and

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<v Speaker 2>a half a game, but I think they are mediocre defense.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they give up five point eight yards per

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<v Speaker 2>play against teams that averages five point six, so theoretically

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<v Speaker 2>they are below average defense on the yards per play basis.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason this total is only forty seven is because

0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the forty nine Ers defense gives up less than fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>points a game, and they have been fantastic this year

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<v Speaker 2>four point six yards per play against teams at average

0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.040
<v Speaker 2>five point six. But they haven't faced an offense like this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Patriots offense. Our defense had been fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>all season also until a few weeks ago when they

0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.719
<v Speaker 2>gave up thirty seven. And I just don't see them

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<v Speaker 2>slowing down Baltimore, especially with the below average run defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's value with over forty seven. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like a public pick being a Raven's over,

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<v Speaker 2>just like the Packers are public. But once again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not afraid to be on the public side here. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think that total is way too low.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. I was a little

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<v Speaker 1>surprised on it. Look the Ravens, they're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to score against anyone right now. I get that they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably playing at the height of what they're able to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I read a stat that said they

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<v Speaker 1>have not punted in a drive led by Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>in three games or something like that. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>is just really his speed and you know, just the

0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.959
<v Speaker 1>offense that they're running over there, it's really really difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to slow down, even with the defense as good as

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers been, and of course, you know

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<v Speaker 1>they the strength of the Ravens in what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do is run the ball effectively and to the

0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.440
<v Speaker 1>extent there is a spot to attack the forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers defense, it is more on the run specifically, since

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kwant Alexander went out and yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens defense. I mean, I think I like them

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, probably than as you've described, just

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<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of their season long statistics

0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.840
<v Speaker 1>were influenced early on when they were dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more injuries. You know, Brandon Williams really hurt their

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<v Speaker 1>ability to stop the run and everything like that. They

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<v Speaker 1>were banged up in the secondary. I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing better lately, but I agree, I mean, lo,

0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Shanahan is perhaps the most creative offensive coach in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, so he is going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>devise certain things. So I'm in good lead agreement with you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw it, you know it struck me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I try to look at when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at the lines, I just take my gut reaction before

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<v Speaker 1>I really dive into it, and my gut reaction was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly it was low. So you know, we do picks

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<v Speaker 1>on bettingpros dot com. You know, I don't know one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty. You know, quote unquote experts make picks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've already locked in the over on that one,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm in total agreement with you. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>also with an over here, and you know, Steve, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna disagree with this one, but we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it for a second. And I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>make it clear. When I picked it, it was at forty six.

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<v Speaker 1>It has moved to forty seven. It's been trending up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I locked it in when it was forty six,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel better about that. I'll still take it

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<v Speaker 1>at forty seven because what the heck. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>go on a Thanksgiving game, even though some people, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to this, it may be late. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we never get to do Thursday games on the show

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<v Speaker 1>because we usually record on Thursday. So I'm gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to take the Bills and the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>over forty seven. Again, as often happens, it was forty

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<v Speaker 1>six when I sort of looked at it and decided

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<v Speaker 1>to make the pick. But I'll stick with it at

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven. The Cowboys ranked sixth in the NFL in

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<v Speaker 1>scoring at nearly twenty seven points per game. They're even

0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.000
<v Speaker 1>better at home, averaging more than thirty points per game.

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<v Speaker 1>They're second in offensive DVOA. That's obviously including this past

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<v Speaker 1>weekend where they did absolutely nothing against the Patriots. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the Rams. I expect this to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a bounce back effort for Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly offensively. And the Bills have a great defense,

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<v Speaker 1>the ranked third in the NFL, but certainly some of

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<v Speaker 1>that has been their schedule, which has been one of,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the single easiest schedule in the NFL. And

0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you've seen you know, they've got a great defense, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're much better pass defense. They're a bit vulnerable against

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<v Speaker 1>the run. And even though Ezekiel Elliott has not torn

0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it up of late, he's likely going to get going

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. And I think they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to move the ball through the air too, give

0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.720
<v Speaker 1>him the play action. They've given up the fewest sacks

0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, even with Amari Cooper matched up against

0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Tradavius Right. Cooper is coming off a game where he

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<v Speaker 1>was shut out. You know he's going to get at

0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.360
<v Speaker 1>least a little bit more there. And Michael Gallup is

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<v Speaker 1>playing well as well. And they're even getting Rendal Cobb involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Cowboys know this game they obviously play on

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving every year. The quick turnaround, I think they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go, But I also expect Buffalo to be

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.880
<v Speaker 1>able to score two. They're featuring Devin Singletary a bit more.

0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.960
<v Speaker 1>They just gashed a very strong Denver run defense. On

0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the ground, Josh Allen is really able to extend plays.

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<v Speaker 1>But in particular, you know, even though you've got, you know,

0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.680
<v Speaker 1>two teams that are going to run the ball a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's usually good for the under because it takes

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<v Speaker 1>up you know, longer drives, takes up clock. But the

0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys generally are pretty they play fast, and really, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at the Bills last week, they really

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<v Speaker 1>played up tempo. They went no huddle a ton. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was something like, you know, forty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time close to that. They ran seventy three plays

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<v Speaker 1>last week. I think that's what they're going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to come out and do. Their offense looked better against

0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.920
<v Speaker 1>a tough defense, so I expect them to also try

0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.920
<v Speaker 1>to play fast, which again to me, strikes me as

0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.280
<v Speaker 1>something that's going to lean towards the over. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, the total strending up here, as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned it, I looked at it. It was forty five and

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<v Speaker 1>a half at one point. I got it when it

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<v Speaker 1>was forty six. It's now at forty seven on our

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<v Speaker 1>Consentuve ods, so I could see the under I think

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<v Speaker 1>the under looked quote unquote like the sharp play given

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<v Speaker 1>all the reasons I discussed, But I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>over here with forty seven for the Bills and the Cowboys. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I think the sharp money agrees with you. This

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<v Speaker 2>was as low as forty five even in some spots

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<v Speaker 2>when it opened, and it is up to forty six

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<v Speaker 2>and forty seven as you mentioned the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>The public isn't playing this yet. I think the professionals,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably expect these overs to be bumped up

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously the public likes overs and on Thursday, these

0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.800
<v Speaker 2>are very public bet games of three Thanksgiving games, so

0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.320
<v Speaker 2>they maybe are trying to get in early. There might

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit of a buy back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it hits forty seven and a half, they might

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<v Speaker 2>come back on the under, try to middle it, and

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<v Speaker 2>this line might drop back down by kickoff to forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven to forty six and a half. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be careful overreacting to Buffalo's defensive numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>They might allow just sixteen points a game, but they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't faced many offenses like Dallas. This is a good

0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.440
<v Speaker 2>cowboy offense. They can both run and throw the ball.

0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.720
<v Speaker 2>They average eight and a half yards of pass twenty

0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.880
<v Speaker 2>seven points a game. They're averaging over thirty points per

0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.680
<v Speaker 2>game at home this season, so I think it could

0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.560
<v Speaker 2>be a high scoring game. Actually it wouldn't shock me.

0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.360
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, both teams run the ball, but as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>they do it officially, they do a kind of uptempo.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the uptempo analogy. It's something I use a

0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.760
<v Speaker 2>tremendous amount in college and pro basketball and handicapping totals.

0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:46.840
<v Speaker 2>We don't talk about it as much in football, but

0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.200
<v Speaker 2>in the modern you no spread offenses. It is a

0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.640
<v Speaker 2>legitimate handicapping factor. And once again, this is kind of

0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like that San Francisco Baltimore total. You know that I

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<v Speaker 2>use the over. You've got one really good defensive team

0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.800
<v Speaker 2>like San Francisco Buffalo of a really good offensive team

0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Alish or Baltimore, and because of that, the odds makers

0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of have to put the total in the middle there.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those teams is going to dictate their preferred

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.440
<v Speaker 2>style of play. I think it'll be Baltimore at home,

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.479
<v Speaker 2>and you know you're betting it'll probably be Dallas at home.

0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.240
<v Speaker 2>And in general, the home team does dictate the way

0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.040
<v Speaker 2>they want the game to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my one worry on it would be that the

0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys jump out to a real big lead. And then,

0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think the Bills are capable of

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<v Speaker 1>putting up points, which I look, it's a it's a

0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.720
<v Speaker 1>certainly something that's that's a factor. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do expect as much as I don't, you know,

0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>have quite as much faith in the Bills defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>like their offense, and I really do considering they're bringing

0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.639
<v Speaker 1>in Devin Singletary. I you know, John Brown's always been

0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.320
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite players. It's great to watch him

0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.520
<v Speaker 1>succeed right now. And Josh Allen is able to when

0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you get pressure on him because of his legs, is

0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.920
<v Speaker 1>able to extend drive. So I think they're going to

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.760
<v Speaker 1>play fast. I think there's gonna be a lot of points,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll take the over. Let's move on to your

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<v Speaker 1>third pick here. What do you got?

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna talk about it more of an ugly team

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<v Speaker 2>here for the third pick, go back to a side

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<v Speaker 2>selection and this is one of the Lake kickoffs at

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<v Speaker 2>four to twenty five Eastern on Sunday afternoon, going to

0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.600
<v Speaker 2>look at the Oakland Raiders. And this is another game

0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.399
<v Speaker 2>in which the lines moved a bit from what the

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<v Speaker 2>look ahead number was. I saw it as low as

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<v Speaker 2>eight and a half in some spots, but now as

0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.880
<v Speaker 2>of Wednesday afternoon, we're looking at a solid plus ten

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.720
<v Speaker 2>across the board. Ten another very key number about four

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<v Speaker 2>to five percent of the time, just like seven, it's

0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.439
<v Speaker 2>going to land on ten. So I do think at

0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.119
<v Speaker 2>ten or more here we're starting to get some value

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<v Speaker 2>with the Oakland Raiders. This is a rematch from earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this season. I always like to take good sized big

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:26.000
<v Speaker 2>divisional dogs in rematches, especially if they've lost. They're coming

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<v Speaker 2>off a terrible show in last week against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I had a best bet on the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Jets as the home dog against the Raiders

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.439
<v Speaker 2>from my clients, so that game did not surprise me.

0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Now the thirty four to three win did surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a pleasant surprise. But I still think because

0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.680
<v Speaker 2>of that, this line's been inflated. Now. Also, Kansas City

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get a little healthier, but they've alternated wins

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<v Speaker 2>or losses going all the way back to early October.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is still a team that's just three and

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<v Speaker 2>four straight up their last seven games, both against the

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.960
<v Speaker 2>spread and outright, so they have not been crushing it

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<v Speaker 2>like they did last year. I just think this is

0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.400
<v Speaker 2>an inflated line here. You look at the Oakland They're

0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.560
<v Speaker 2>capable of moving the ball. You know, they put up

0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty four points straight against Chicago Green Bay in Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>then they put up thirty one and twenty six against

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Detroit and the Chargers, and then the last two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>only seventeen and three all of a sudden. I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is a little bit of an overreaction by the

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<v Speaker 2>Betty market, and I think Oakland is more likely to

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<v Speaker 2>return to that twenty twenty five point average this week

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<v Speaker 2>against the mediocre Kansas City defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure that I would pick it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with the side that you're on. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>what I look at here and I agreed with the

0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Jets against the Raiders. Look, the Raiders need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to run the ball with Jacobs in order to

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<v Speaker 1>really establish their identity and put up points. They have

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.200
<v Speaker 1>lost Hunter ren for of course, but look, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>it in the past before mahomes injury. You know, when

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you were able to slow down the Chiefs offense. How

0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>did they do it? You know that game against the Colts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe the game against Texans. They ran the ball,

0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.960
<v Speaker 1>they controlled the game, They kept Mahomes off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mahomes is not, you know, looking quite as good

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 1>as he did before the injury for obvious reasons. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this game unlike the Jets game, because the

0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Jets were able to stop the run. They stopped really

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<v Speaker 1>what the Raiders did. I feel like in this game,

0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs cannot stop the run, and that is where

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders are going to be able to not only

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<v Speaker 1>move the ball, but keep Mahomes off the field as

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<v Speaker 1>much as possible and be able to keep the game close.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, betting against Patrick Mahomes is something that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've struggled to do, you know, at least in his prime,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was too scary frankly when I was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in it. But overall, so I don't think I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to get in on it. But I do agree that

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<v Speaker 1>if I were to pick a side, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders getting ten for basically all the reasons you described,

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<v Speaker 1>So I do like the pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one thing I'll point out to you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the importance of the Raiders running the ball, and

0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I ever got to mention Kansas City's run defense. Given

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<v Speaker 2>a five point one yards per carry this year, it's

0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the weaker yards per carey defenses in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do think Oakland will have some success on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent. And really, when you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, that's kind of how you keep the game close.

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 1>And again, ten is a huge number. You know, anytime

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:52.919
<v Speaker 1>you get to double digits, you got to look closely

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.080
<v Speaker 1>at the team getting the points and it's a key number,

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, so certainly, at the very least the

0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>backdoor covers is always in play. I'll go to my

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<v Speaker 1>final pick and it's going to go back to an

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<v Speaker 1>over under, and that's the Jets and the Bengals over

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.440
<v Speaker 1>forty one and a half. I think you're gonna probably

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<v Speaker 1>see this line maybe crew up to forty two forty

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>two and a half with Andy Dalton back in, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a good reason for it. Look, the

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Jets offense right now is clicking. It's been soft matchups,

0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.600
<v Speaker 1>but they've scored exactly thirty four points in each of

0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.639
<v Speaker 1>their last three games. That's against the Giants, Redskins, and Raiders,

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 1>soft matchups. But they've got another one here against the Bengals.

0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 1>In addition the simple fact that Sam Darnold is growing

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback, There's just some talented playmakers and it's

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.679
<v Speaker 1>really that none of those teams get pressure consistently on

0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.159
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback. That's the key for Donald, who stands behind

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a terrible offensive line and so long as he isn't

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.400
<v Speaker 1>consistently dealing with defenders in the space, he can make

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>plays and put up points. And the Bengals have sixteen

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.199
<v Speaker 1>sacks on the season. That's second worst in the NFL.

0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 1>They're head of only the Dolphins. They're third worst in

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>defensive DVOA. There's absolutely no reason why the Jets should

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 1>struggle to put up points here. And look, the Jets

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.760
<v Speaker 1>are solid upfront. Defensive they have Jamal Adams, one of

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the best safeties in the game. Since they've switched at cornerback,

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>they've been playing better. Brian Poole has had actually a

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:09.960
<v Speaker 1>nice season out of the slot and their fifth in

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:15.919
<v Speaker 1>defensive DVOA. But the Bengals are at least borderline competent offensively.

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.680
<v Speaker 1>So long as Andy Dalton is under center, he knows

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.320
<v Speaker 1>how to utilize Tyler Boyd. Joe Mixon has been getting

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:24.120
<v Speaker 1>plenty of work lately, which he really wasn't getting early.

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.679
<v Speaker 1>On forty Glenn came back, which helps their offensive line.

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen anything on the practice reports with aj Green,

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 1>but you know, you got to get this feeling like Green.

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming back with Ryan Finley, but all right,

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.439
<v Speaker 1>you throw Dalton back there, maybe he'll try to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he doesn't, though, I think that the Bengals

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:40.639
<v Speaker 1>are going to be able to put up at least

0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:42.639
<v Speaker 1>some points right now, I don't think the Jets defense

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>is quite as good as it has looked lately. Not

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a crazy amount of points, but certainly some points. And

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>with the Jets being able to put up points, I

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable here that they're going to shoot over forty

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.120
<v Speaker 1>one a half, which again is a fairly low over under.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very low. I was going to say it's

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:56.679
<v Speaker 2>a very low over under for the modern NFL on

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.360
<v Speaker 2>forty one, by the way, a very key number with totals,

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and I do see several spots out there that still

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:03.919
<v Speaker 2>have forty one. So I think you can legitimately say

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>you could play over forty one in this game about

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 2>three to four percent of the time it's going to

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 2>land on forty one points. You know, twenty four to seventeen,

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 2>thirty one, ten, twenty one, twenty, There's a lot of

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.919
<v Speaker 2>combinations that get you there. So definitely shop around get

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>that over forty one in this one. If you're looking

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>at the over I do think forty one and a

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 2>half forty two by Sundays be what the number is,

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.199
<v Speaker 2>So I'd play it sooner than later. And yeah, I

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of wait for the Bengals to have a breakout game.

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:27.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, they've been so terrible this year. Everyone thought

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins were the worst team in the modern NFL history,

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 2>and they've already won two games. You know, the Redskins

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 2>looked like they were the worst team. They won their

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 2>second game last week. The Jets were actually in the

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 2>playoff list now if you look at teams in the hunt,

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the Jets are actually listed now despite being just four

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and seven. But they are a better team healthy, and

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the reasons I liked the Jets last week.

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Is the best bet for my clients against Oakland was

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I do feel like they're flying a bit under the

0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>radar now that Darnold is healthy and able to play

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.120
<v Speaker 2>his level. Thirty four points three straight games. You mentioned

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the three week opponents they've played. This is the weakest yet,

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 2>so I see no reason why it wouldn't continue. And

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I think the key here is of Cincinnati can get

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the points. We know they allow points. They give up

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty two a game at home. The problem is they

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 2>only average sixteen at home, only fourteen and a half overall.

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.719
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not stilling this Jets defense. They give up

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>over twenty six and a half away. Yeah, it's a

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 2>low total forty one. He almost automatically have to look

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>at the over and I think he brought up some

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 2>very good reasons to do so.

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm a Jets fan. Full disclosure, I'm from Queens,

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>so I grew up, unfortunately rooting for them and still do.

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.399
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I agree. Look, they've been playing very well,

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>but I'm still not trusting the defense at this point.

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 1>And again, look, the Bengals are terrible. They are a

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>terrible football team. They've got probably two games left that

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they can win. They don't want to go oh in sixteen.

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>They do have a game against Miami, so you know,

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll put that out there. They can definitely win that game.

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>But they've got to be going for it at this

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.679
<v Speaker 1>point because otherwise there's really no reason to turn back

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to Andy Dalton because he's not the quarterback in the future.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're going to be drafting a quarterback this year.

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>So I think they want this win. I think they're

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>going to do whatever they can to get it, which

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I think means putting up points. All right, let's recap here, Steve.

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>You've got the hacker's lank six and a half to

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, the forty nine Ers and Ravens over forty seven,

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and the Raiders getting ten from the Chiefs. I'll take

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the Rams lank three to the Cardinals, the Bills and

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys over forty seven now, and the Jets and the

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Bengals over forty one and a half. I believe, although, yeah,

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:17.800
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0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>the line we are avoiding this weekend. What do you have?

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know we talked about this game. I used

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the over, but I'm going to use the side. I

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of referenced this earlier that I know it was

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>a tough one, and that's the Ravens forty nine Ers side.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 2>Here I can make an argument for both teams. I

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>can also tell you why he probably want to stay

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 2>away from both teams. First of all, as I've referenced earlier,

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I was surprised to see the line six. I mean,

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco has been as good as anybody in the NFL.

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 2>They just blew out a good Packers team on Sunday

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 2>night primetime football. Normally you lose line value because of that.

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 2>But then the Ravens did them one better and they

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>blew out the Rams on Monday night, which is more recent,

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and then everybody's memory, the betting public saw what they

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 2>did to the Patriots a few weeks ago. So now

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you've got the Ravens at minus sixth. It's like Ohio

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>State and college football. You're not going to get any

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 2>value with Baltimore going forward until they lose at some point.

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Ohio State's failed to cover each of

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the last two weeks despite winning. Still who that doesn't

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 2>mean you jumped in on the forty nine Ers either.

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 2>This is a team that's coming off that huge win.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I'll have to travel cross country and have the

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>disadvantage of playing a one o'clock Eastern, which is a

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 2>ten am Pacific kickoff on their body clocks. And also,

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>as I referenced, one of the reasons I like the

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>over and I'm staying away from the side is because

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 2>the forty nine Ers defense has been great this year,

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>but that's against the past. They're actually a below average

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>rush defense statistically four point seven yards per rush allowed,

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>and now they're facing a mobile quarterback like they have

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 2>not seen all season. I'd be very careful with this side.

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a bad matchup for San Francisco, but

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I think there's no value right now with Baltimore in

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the near future.

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>So usually what we do, if you've listened to the show,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>is I have our guests send me their picks in advance,

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>so I could just make sure I don't pick the

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>same game. And you know, it's Thanksgivings coming up. Steve

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and I weren't able to connect that closely about this,

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>so that was going to be my line to avoid this. Yeah, no, great,

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>bos think a lot. You want to do it, all right,

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. I'll throw it out very quickly for

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you too. But I could not agree with you more.

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>This is just not a line I'm going anywhere near.

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked it's six, by the way. I mean, as

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>much as I six just strikes me as crazy inflated.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But I can't bring myself to bet against Lamar Jackson

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>at this point. But it's certainly something that's crazy. But

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I like that you took it. It was gonna be

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>mine too. I think I'll pivot a little bit and

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the game that I'm avoiding because again I've looked at

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>this game and I you know, originally I wanted to

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>take it, but I couldn't get there. And that's the

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Patriots laying three to the Texans in Houston. Look this game,

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>when you look at the Patriots, they're just their defense

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>is great, but their offense it's really not working right now.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I understand that the game against Dallas was in the

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>terrible weather, but it's really not going anywhere. Brady is

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>not playing particularly well. They struggle to run the ball,

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>as I have all season long, since James Devlin went out.

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>They're really just not able to put up a ton

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>of points. I don't you know, Brady was on the

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>injury report with an elbow injury. That's you know, he

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>used to always be on the injury report, but I

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>hadn't heard of that before. So he may be a

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>little banged up. He's been getting hit quite a bit,

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you know. And the Texans right now, you know, look

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>they're off the many bye, Will Fuller is healthy. You know,

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>they're playing overall. They came off the big win pretty well.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>If there's one thing that the Patriots defense kind of

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>struggles with a little bit, it's mobile quarterbacks. You saw

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>against Lamar Jackson. Although that's not really something that you

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>can hold against any defense, frankly, but because they play

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>so much, man, you know, their cornerbacks have their backs

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>turned to it so the mobile quarterbacks like Watson are

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>able to get out. But in the end, the coaching

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>difference in the two teams. I mean, Bill O'Brien is

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>just not somebody that I can feel comfortable backing, particularly

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.479
<v Speaker 1>against Bill Belichick. So at this game on Sunday Night Football,

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the crowd's going to be crazy. It's just something where

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like, if I'm forced to pick

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>a side, I see the value in the Texans personally,

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's not something where I'm going to be willing

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and bet against Bill Belichick. So I'm

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>avoiding the Patriots laying three to the Texans. I wanted

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:53.479
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on that line.

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to be critical where this line settles

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>because as of Wednesday right now, there's a lot of

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>threes minus one twin but I see several spots also

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 2>that have minus three and a half, even on the Patriots.

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>And as we talked about earlier in the show, you know,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>NFL favorites went about nine to ten percent of the

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>time by exactly three points, so big difference. You know,

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>if you like, if you like New England, you want

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>to play three minus one twenty. If you like Houston,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you play plus three and a half even it is

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>worth the twenty cent gap. In fact, it's worth about

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty five to thirty cents. Historically, it's the one time

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>it's worth paying a little extra. And if you've noticed,

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>most sports books know this, and they make you charge.

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>They charge you at least like thirty cents because buying

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 2>points in general is a sucker play you don't normally

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>want to do. They don't want to move the line

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 2>a half a point in lay minus one twenty instead

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of minus one ten. But in this situation, you are

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>better off laying a little extra if it's only a

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.479
<v Speaker 2>twenty cent gap. So yeah, we'll see where this line settles.

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think that reason alone, you know, Dan has

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>reason to stay away from this game at least right

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>now until Sunday night.

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's a great point. And again, look,

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned it most times we record. But again we're

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>using the consensus odds, okay, and that's probably I believe,

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>eight sports books that we've got going on. But if

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you look at it, the consensus odds are minus three

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and laying one o five right here. But if you

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>look at the different sports books, there's a handful of

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>three and a half. So it really depends on where

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you're able to get in. But yeah, it's just not

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>ane I you'll come to with. If it's three and

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a half, I'll bite the bullet and take the Texans.

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>But at three it's not something that I want to go. Okay,

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you and I are both avoiding the Ravens lank six

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to the forty nine ers, and I'm going to avoid

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots laying three to the Texans. So before we

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0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>get a chance to talk about our top props, so legitimately,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>if you take mine, I'm just gonna jump on it

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>with you. So go ahead, and and what do you

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>got here?

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well there's a couple I'm looking at, and it's

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>by the way, you know, Wednesday. Of course, it's very

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>hard to find the numbers for the Sunday games. All

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>the Thursday props are out now, but really haven't seen

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 2>any of the major books with the numbers up for Sunday.

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna be general and you can kind of

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>throw in the exact number when you see it as

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>a consensus. The one I'm gonna stay away from, by

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the way, is, you know, obviously, uh Lamar Jackson rushing

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>yards over is very tempting for me because San Francisco's

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 2>run defense has been below average, as I've referenced several times,

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and also the fact they haven't seen a quarterback like that.

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>But I'm staying away from Baltimore in general, because they're

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 2>so public right now, I'd like to normally look for

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>unders with props because if a player gets injured, I'm

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>not wishing an injury, but if a player gets injured,

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously that helps the under and that's something

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 2>that just could be an additional bonus for you. Plus

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>the public normally plays the over. With that said, I'm

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 2>going to use an over, and I like Aaron Rodgers

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>total passing yards over the total. It goes hand in

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>hand with the side selection I used at the top

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>of the show. I think Green Bay is flying a

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>little bit under the radar right now after that terrible

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>performance on Sunday night offensively when they only put up

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 2>eight points and overall as a team they only threw

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the ball for eighty one passing yards. But as I've

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>said several times, San Francisco's pass defense has been the

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.479
<v Speaker 2>best in the NFL this year, it was a bad

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 2>matchup for the Packers. They are now taken on which

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.919
<v Speaker 2>maybe is the worst pass defense at least in the NFC,

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>maybe the whole NFL. Giants give up sixty eight percent completions,

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>they give up eight point one yards per pass and

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 2>just look at the yardage they've given up recently. And

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>what's incredible about this, they've lost seven straight games. You know,

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 2>normally teams run the ball when they have the lead,

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>and the Giants you think wouldn't be thrown on as

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>much two hundred and seventy two eighteen, two fifty seven,

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 2>three sixteen. The last four weeks they did hold Arizona

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:51.440
<v Speaker 2>at eighty nine, still lost the game, but the two

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>weeks before that New England and Minnesota three thirteen and

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>two seventy nine allowed. And now they're taking on as

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 2>good of any quarterback in the league and Aaron Rodgers.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 2>So I'd like the Aaron Rodgers props over specifically, say

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>over to total passing yards.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's gonna be a win. Whatever I mean this

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>is I look, I feel about this game the exact

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>same way you do, which is I think the Packers

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>are just going to come out and get you know,

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>just firing on all cylinders in this game. I think

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>they were really embarrassed last game. Rogers in particular. I

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>think there's going to be a lot of stuff going on.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>You did bring up a good point with the props,

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>which because look, if you've been listening to it. Almost

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>always I'm taking it over and it's always that kind

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of a garden variety line. That is because when we record,

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, prop bets generally don't drop till closer to

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>game time. And it's funny because the vast majority of

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the props I'm actually able to play once they come

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>out on Saturday or even Sunday morning are unders because

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that's generally when I project players, which you know, I

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>also do fantasy, so I'm projecting players I'm able to

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>really go there. So with these, You're right, it's a

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>little more difficult because you've always got to go over.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>And again, we I use points bet because that's really

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the one of the few that has it out there.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.959
<v Speaker 1>So for me, I'm going to take DJ Shark over

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards receiving against the Bucks. That's a plus

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>one sixty right now. Chark and pretty much all the

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars receivers had a terrible day against the Titans, but

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he'd seen at least nine targets in each of his

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>three previous games. I expect him to reach that number

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>again in a game where the Jaguars are certainly going

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to need points. I mean that Bucks hit the over

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>on pretty much every one of their games. The Bucks

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>have an incredibly strong run defense, as most betters now

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>at this point, but an abysmal pass defense. Dede. Westbrook,

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Chris Conley, They're both going to factor in, But in

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the end, I think realistically it's gonna be Chark. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have by far dominate the targets. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a ton of receiving yards. So at plus

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<v Speaker 1>one sixty, I think the odds are good enough for me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that is gonna do it for today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining me, Steve. Remind everyone where they can

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<v Speaker 1>find more of you and your work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the website prosportsinfo dot com, and then on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned earlier, Steve Merril, and it's two RS,

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<v Speaker 2>one L, just one L. It's unusual, but it allowed

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<v Speaker 2>me to get my Twitter handro many years after Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>had started, so I wasn't complaining at Steve Merril, M

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<v Speaker 2>E R R I L on Twitter, website again, prosportsinfo

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, and anybody that hears the podcast and emails

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<v Speaker 2>me directly, I'll be glad to send him one of

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<v Speaker 2>my personal best bets for this weekend. Steve at Pro

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<v Speaker 2>sports Info dot com just mentioned the show for a

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<v Speaker 2>free best bet with analysis. Steve at prosportsinfo dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's great, and you know, I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of envy right now because you know, Dan Harris, I

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<v Speaker 1>came in a little late there and I have not

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<v Speaker 1>been able to get my name. I'm going to find

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<v Speaker 1>the real Dan Harris though, and I'm gonna certainly steal

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<v Speaker 1>whatever he's got going on. But thanks again for joining us.

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