1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Abe Morris and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: We start with labor strikes across the country an attentative 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: deal for screenwriters in Hollywood. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter joins us 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: from California with the very latest on that story. 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: We've been hearing that areas regarding residuals, minimum staffing, revenue 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: sharing when shows hit streaming, as well as AI and 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: data transparency, but hammered out. As with all deals, union 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: members have to vote, and WGA member Alceptian says ratifications 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: should not be a problem. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: We know that our negotiating committee is not going to 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: accept the deal then subpar, because we trust them and 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: they've led us through this. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: The strike has been ongoing since early May in California. 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: All right, Ed, thanks, and we're also monitoring developments in 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: the auto workers strike after the UAW expanded the work 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: stoppage Friday. This morning. The two sides remain far apart 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: on key issues, and Bloomberg's Ed Corey joins us from Detroit. 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: With the latest. 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 5: Those issues include pay, benefits and job protections in a 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 5: Sunday television appearance. US Transportation Secretary Pete Buddhaje Edge said 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 5: automakers can achieve a win win by sharing strong profits 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 5: with workers. President Joe Biden travels to Michigan Tuesday to 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 5: support striking UAW members. Meanwhile, union workers at Ford, Canada 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 5: have ratified a three year deal that locks in substantial 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 5: wage gains. In Detroit, ed Corey Bloomberg Radio, all right. 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Ed, thank you, now, let's stay in Michigan Tomorrow. President 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Biden will make another pitch to residents of the state 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: his economic record. Bloomberg political reporter Mark Niquette says it's 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: an issue on a lot of consumers' minds because how 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: the economy looks on paper does not match up with 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: what they are experiencing. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 6: He has a record to run on. He's passed significant 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 6: legislation that is making investments in infrastructure and chips and 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 6: other things in the economy. The numbers are getting better, 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 6: but people are just starting feeling it. 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Mark Niquett says the chill for President Biden will 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: be convincing Americans that the economy is strengthening as inflation drops. 40 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: And amy as you know We're closely following developments on 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill with a potential government is shut down by 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: the end of the week. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: been trying to rally hardline members of his own party 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: to pass a stopgap spending measure, but the speaker continues 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: to face pushback. Florida Republican Congressman Matt Gates told Fox 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: News over the weekend a shutdown may be needed for 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: a few days to meet the demands of Conservatives. Louisiana 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: representative and McCarthy. Ally, Garrett Graves has a message for 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: GOP holdouts. 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 7: If you want to empower Senator Schumer, if you want 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 7: to empower Joe Biden, then what you do is you 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 7: let government shut down. You don't pursue a continued resolution, 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 7: you don't pass the appropriations bills. That is the liberal solution. 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Republican Representative Garrett Graves says he wants to see a 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: continuing resolution keeping the government open. The federal government's current 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: funding is set to run out on Saturday. 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: And the tech space is also info because this morning, 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: centering specifically on AI, Amazon will invest up to four 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: billion dollars into artificial intelligence startup Nthropic a major player 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: in the generative generative artificial intelligence space, and Thropic aims 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: to make a safer kind of chatbot for tasks like searching, 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: answering questions, and coding. The AI company will move most 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: of its software to Amazon Web Services data centers and 64 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: use the cloud computing company's homegrown chips to train the 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: models it uses to power chatbots and other applications. Founded 66 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: by OpenAI veterans, in Thropic has raised more than a 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: billion dollars so far. 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Well e verses this morning, Amy. We're also following developments 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: in the banking industry. We spoke exclusively with UBS CEO 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Sergio or Mati, who's making his first trip to China 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: since UBS took over credits Suites. Ramadi says he wants 72 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: to reiterate the firm's commitment to clients in China. 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 8: This is my first trip to Asia since taking on 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 8: again my role at UBS. Think it is very important 75 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 8: for me to reach out to all the Chinese stackholders 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 8: and reiterate our commitment to China, while also updating them 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 8: on the integration. 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: UBS CEO Sergio Ormadi also discussed the bank's effort to 79 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: regain funds from its credit sweet integration. In an exclusive 80 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: conversation with our John Low and Beijing. You can hear 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: the full conversation on the Bloomberg Talks podcast feed. Download 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: all our high profile conversations wherever you get your podcasts. 83 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: And we have news on a major victory for NASA 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: this morning, and NASA capsule containing chunks of an asteroid 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: that may hold clues to the Solar System landed in 86 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: the Utah Desert yesterday. Cosmo chemist doctor Natalie Starkey says 87 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: the findings will help scientists get a snapshot of what 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: materials were present when the Solar System first formed. 89 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 9: We don't have any other samples that can tell us 90 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 9: about those times. And the important thing is is they're 91 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 9: pristine because they haven't been through atmosphere entry. They're going 92 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 9: to be looked after in this cap that's come back 93 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 9: from the spacecraft, and they're just the perfect samples that 94 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 9: we could hope for. 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: Cosmo chemist doctor Natalie Starkey says the NASA mission has 96 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: been more than a decade in the making. Researchers plan 97 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: to study those rocks and use the mission to inform 98 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: future exploration. 99 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: And again, amy futures are lower this morning S and 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: P Future is down to tenth of up percent done 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: about six points down. Futures down to tenth of up 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: percent or forty six points, and nasday Future is down 103 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: to tenth of up percent or nineteen points. Ten year 104 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: Treasury down eleven thirty seconds. They yield at four point 105 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: four eight percent, and straight ahead. We have more global headlines, 106 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: plus a check of sports, and this is Bloomberg. 107 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: Thank you, Karen. Time now for a look at some 108 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: of the other stories making news in New York and 109 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: around the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael, Good morning. 111 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 10: Amy. Aphelia may no longer be a tropical storm, but 112 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 10: it is still giving the Try and State area headaches 113 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 10: with wind and rain. Power companies across the Tri state 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 10: area have reported more than six thousand power outages. Many 115 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 10: residents woke up yesterday to flooded streets in Virginia and 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 10: neighboring North Carolina. Power for the most part, has been restored. 117 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 10: For Dominion Energy Customers, spokesperson Benita Billingsley. 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 11: Harris that combination of strong winds and heavy rain caused 119 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 11: a lot of damage from trees and tree limbs. Pulling 120 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 11: down power lines, breaking poles, and other equipment. 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 10: Dominion energies Benita Billingsley Harris as they brought an extra 122 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 10: cruise from other states to respond to the outages. The 123 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 10: mayor of El Paso, Texas, says his city is reaching 124 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 10: a breaking point over the droves of asylum seekers. The 125 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 10: strain is being felt by several border towns, with as 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 10: many as eight thousand migrants crossed again to the US 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 10: every day on CBS has faced the nation. Heard Sundays 128 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 10: on Bloomberg, Republican Congressman Tony Gonzalez of Texas blamed the 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 10: Biden administration for the crisis. 130 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: This border crisis is as if. 131 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: A Category four hurricane has hit. Well, we're just trying 132 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: to keep our head above water here in Texas. 133 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 10: But Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorcis, who visited the border 134 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 10: over the weekend, blamed in action in Congress. 135 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 6: Our immigration system is absolutely broken, a fact on which 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 6: everyone agrees, and Congress needs to face it now. 137 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 10: Mexico says it's reached an agreement with the US to 138 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 10: deport migrants from its northern cities to stem the sharprize. Today, 139 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 10: authorities in Hawaii are expected to begin, allowing the first 140 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 10: residents to return to their devastated properties in Lehina, Many 141 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 10: for the first time since the historic town was demolished 142 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 10: by a wildfire nearly seven weeks ago. The wildfire killed 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 10: at least ninety seven people and destroyed more than two 144 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 10: thousand buildings, most of them homes. Global News twenty four 145 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 10: hours a day, powered by more than twenty seven hundred 146 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 10: journalist analyst in over one hundred and twenty countries. I'm 147 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 10: Michael Barr. This is Bloomberg Gaming. 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, Michael. We bring you news throughout 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: the day here on Bloomberg Radio. But now you can 150 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: get the latest news on demand whenever you want it. 151 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Subscribe to Bloomberg News Now to get the latest headlines 152 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: at the click of a button. Get informed on your schedule, 153 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: Listen and subscribe to Bloomberg News Now on the Bloomberg 154 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: Business app, Bloomberg dot Com plus Apple, Spotify, and anywhere 155 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: else you get your podcasts. Time now for the Sports report, 156 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: brought to you by Tri State Autie. For that, we 157 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: bring in John'stash Hour. 158 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: Thanks Amy and Medlife Stadium. The Patriots only scored fifteen points, 159 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: it was enough to beat the Jets for the fifteenth 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: kids secutive time. Only one New England touchdown. It was 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: a long one. 162 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 5: Kisiki moves right to left. 163 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 12: Jones are the playfif Can I throw down the right seam? 164 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 13: It's put up by Farrell Brown racing to the twenty 165 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 13: fifteen ten chase by any five stretching out to the pylon, 166 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 13: put DIY for a touchdown Patriots. 167 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: That's radio. The Jets scored one TV That came fourth 168 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 4: quarter captain eighty seven yard drive, which was more yards 169 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 4: than the Jets and massed combining their thirteen other possessions. 170 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: They punted on eight of the first nine. It was 171 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: another rough day for Zach Wilson as the Pats beat 172 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: the Jets fifteen to ten. Both teams are one and two. 173 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: New England A voids what would have been their first 174 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: oh to three starts since two thousand. Denver is ozh 175 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: and three, having lost at Miami seventy to twenty. The 176 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: Dolphins scored ten touchdowns, five in each half. They had 177 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 4: seven hundred and twenty six yards of offense, the most 178 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: of the NFL since nineteen fifty one. The seventy points 179 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: the most in Chicago scored seventy three in the nineteen 180 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: forty championship game. These Bears are owing three. They've lost 181 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: thirteen straight going back to last season. Kansas City won 182 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 4: forty one to ten. Chiefs were ugh thirty four to 183 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: nothing at the half. Big upset in Phoenix. Arizona beat 184 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: Dallas twenty eight to sixteen. Cowboys were two another. They 185 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 4: had beaten the Jets and Giants by combined seventy to ten. 186 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: Last night, Pittsburgh won at Las Vegas twenty three to eighteen. 187 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: Mets lost in Philadelphia five to two. The Pills on 188 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: the verge of clinching a wildcard. Arizona leads for the 189 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: second NL wildcard. The Dbacks the Yankee seven to one upset. 190 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: In the WNBA playoffs, the Connecticut Sun took game one 191 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: of the best of five semifinals from the Liberty. 192 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 14: John Stashawer, Bloomberg. 193 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: Sports Amy All right, thank you, John. The Bloomberg Sports 194 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: Report was brought to you by Audi. 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Both UBS and Credit Suees have 205 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: long standing joint ventures in China, where managing the assets 206 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: of the ultra wealthy is big business. Ermadi sat down 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: with Bloomberg's John lou for inni exclusive interview on the 208 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: Swiss giants plans in Asia. I started by discussing if 209 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: Chinese clients still have concerns about the integration of Credit Suisse. 210 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 8: Things are progressing very well. We made shift very swift 211 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 8: progress in integrating Credit Swiss. We close the transaction in 212 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 8: record times, also thanks to the big cooperation of regulators 213 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 8: across the globe. And that's one of the reasons why 214 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 8: I'm also here today in Beijing because I you know, 215 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 8: this is my first trip to Asia since taking on 216 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 8: again in my role at UBS, and I think it's 217 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 8: very important for me to reach out to all the 218 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 8: Chinese stakeholders and reiterate our commitment to China while also 219 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 8: updating them on the integration. 220 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 13: So I do know that here in China UBS has 221 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 13: a securities venture. Credit Swiss also had a securities venture. 222 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 13: It would seem to make sense to sell out of 223 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 13: the Credit Swiss venture. Is that something you're pursuing now? 224 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 8: Well, we are currently evaluating the best options. Of course, 225 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 8: we are not allowed to have to operations, but we 226 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 8: need to really understand exactly how to do that. We 227 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 8: are very happy with our historical operation here in China 228 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 8: that we were the first to get the license as 229 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 8: a foreign investors to own and a control stake. So 230 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 8: it's a very important element of our strategy in China. 231 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 8: And now we need to exactly evaluate how to integrate 232 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 8: or how to what to do with the CES operation. 233 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 13: Sort of how far have you progressed in that process? 234 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 13: Are you looking at potential buyers? Are you talking to 235 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 13: anyone yet or is it knock got into that place at. 236 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 8: This stage we are examining the situation, Okay. 237 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 13: In your second quarter results it mentioned specifically that client 238 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 13: confidence sentiment and activity here in Asia was muted. Are 239 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 13: you still finding that's the case into the third quarter. 240 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 8: Well, I think that we saw in general a little 241 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 8: pick up across the globe, also in Asia in terms 242 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 8: of client activity. So the most important topic for us 243 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 8: was to see the returns of assets that left credit SUITEE. 244 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 8: In Q four Q one this year, we started to 245 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 8: see assets coming back at pretty swiss towards the end 246 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 8: of the second quarter. We see also very good momentum 247 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 8: in Q three, So that's the most important issue. But 248 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 8: also in general, it's fair to say that investors are 249 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 8: more constructive than they have been uh recently. 250 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 13: So on the momentum you talked about in Q three 251 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 13: there was a net new money and flow about sixteen 252 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 13: billion US dollars and two Q you said at the 253 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 13: time you expected that to continue. What is it looking 254 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 13: like in twe Q What does good momentum mean? 255 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 8: Well, I mean we we are pursuing similar patterns, so 256 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 8: we are not going to be specific on numbers. The 257 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 8: quarter is still ongoing, but the most important issues that 258 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 8: we see we see see substantial substantially our forecast being 259 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 8: confirmed and we are getting the close of the quarters. 260 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 8: So I think that that's very encouraging to see that. 261 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 8: So quickly. Our clients are responding to our actions to 262 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 8: stabilize credit suits and and and to and to offer 263 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 8: them the best of the combined organizations and age. 264 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 13: I believe in the second quarters there was a net 265 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 13: money and flow about one point eight or so billion 266 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 13: US dollars in Asia. Do you see a similar sort 267 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 13: of trajectory in the third quarters. 268 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, we see positive trends across the globe in each region. 269 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 13: What about here in China? What does the sentiment feel like, 270 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 13: not only here, but like globally, the perception of China 271 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 13: and Chinese assets. 272 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 8: Well, look in general in the globe, you know, we 273 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,359 Speaker 8: are going through very challenging times in terms of macroeconomic 274 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 8: In terms of the macroeconomic picture, of course, the geopolitical 275 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 8: tensions are not helping at this stage, you know, but 276 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 8: I do believe that many investors still sees the long 277 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 8: term potential of China. 278 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: That's ubs CEO Sergia or Madi speaking exclusively with Bloomberg's 279 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: John lu in Beijing. Congress is heading into a make 280 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: or break week for avoiding a government shutdown. We are 281 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: joined now by Dennis Gardman, University of Akron Endowment Chairman 282 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: and former publisher of the Gartman Letter, Dennis, always a 283 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: pleasure to have. You want to take a broader look 284 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: at the markets as we start this trading week, But 285 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: there are so many factors impacting the markets, especially now, 286 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: not the least of which a possible government shutdown. Is 287 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: that a factor for you too? 288 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 14: Yes, it is a factor, and it should be a 289 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 14: factor for everybody. I hope that there are some resolution 290 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 14: to this before the week is out, that we actually 291 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 14: keep the government intact, but the markets right now seem 292 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 14: to think that that's not going to happen, that we're 293 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 14: going to continue to see dissension within the troops in Washington, DC, 294 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 14: and that there will be a government shutdown even if 295 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 14: we'd get one. I doubt that it lasts very long. 296 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 14: But right now the market wants to say it's deleterious 297 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 14: to share prices, and that's why we were having a 298 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 14: difficulty this morning. We had a little bit of a 299 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 14: rally in the futures overnight, but that gave up very quickly, 300 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 14: and we're making new lows as we speak. So it's disconcerting, 301 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 14: to say the very least. You also have the continued 302 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 14: UAW strikes that seem to be widening, not lessening, And 303 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 14: the only good thing is that the writer's strikes seems 304 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 14: to be making some progress. But strikes and government shutdowns 305 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 14: are never good for stock prices. 306 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: Now, you have been bearished for months now, and just 307 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: for a few days last week you were modestly bullish. 308 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: You were sort of dipping your toe in that water 309 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: on stocks. Has this kind of ruined that for you? 310 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: Are you bearish again? 311 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 14: Yes, it has ruined it for me. The only I 312 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 14: trade my own account, and right now I have a 313 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 14: very large position in less than two year notes, which 314 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 14: I'm comfortable with at seventy three years old income. It 315 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 14: seems to be more important to me then speculative trades. 316 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 14: But I'm short about eight percent of my portfolio at 317 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 14: this point, have been for a while, and as we 318 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 14: make new lows, my propensity is to add to that trade. 319 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 14: I'm short stocks and long a little bit of gold, 320 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 14: and I'm reasonably comfortable with usosition. But it scared me 321 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 14: being barish for a while. That we had a rally 322 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 14: two weeks ago, but it seemed to fail very quickly, 323 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 14: and the problem with the market was that the rallies 324 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 14: were on the very light volume. The brakes were on 325 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 14: heavier volume and we failed to make new highs. And 326 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 14: at the same time we had the CNN Fear and 327 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 14: Greed Index, which had gotten to eighty five, was beginning 328 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 14: to turn lower, and that's always a definitive signal that 329 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 14: Marcus want to go lower. So for about an hour 330 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 14: and a half, I got a little bit concerned. For 331 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 14: months and months, I've been very barish, and I continue 332 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 14: to be all right. 333 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: Then, oil, though, has rallied in recent weeks, and it 334 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: continues this morning, if not modestly, three tens seven percent 335 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: for NINEX crewede almost a half percent for Brent crude 336 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: as we speak for futures. Does that help support what 337 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 2: had been a modestly bullish. 338 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 14: Position for you, Well, the thing to watching the crude 339 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 14: oil market is the fact that the backwardation the inversion 340 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 14: continues to widen. And as long as the market continues 341 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 14: to be inverted, as long as the front months gain 342 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 14: on the back months on down days and gain on 343 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 14: the back months on updates, you have to err upon 344 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 14: the side of being bullish of crude oil. Ninety five 345 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 14: dollars WTI seems to be an extremely high price, but 346 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 14: it has surprised me the ability for crude to continue 347 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 14: to be inverted in the term structure, and it wants 348 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 14: to go higher and higher. For crude oil are always 349 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 14: deleterious to share prices generally, so it higher crude oil 350 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 14: prices tend to be an added various circumstance, so it 351 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 14: adds to my overt variousness and stock prices at this point. 352 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: Now we've been talking about inflation, We've been talking about 353 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: the oil prices, We've been talking about the strikes and 354 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: the possible government shutdown. There are so many X factors. 355 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: Where's the FED when it comes to driving these stock prices? 356 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 14: The set has been behind the eight ball for quite 357 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 14: a period of time. They were laid in understanding that 358 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 14: inflation was a problem, calling it transitory when it wasn't 359 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 14: really going to be transitory. And the SET is going 360 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 14: to continue to be I think detrimental to share prices. 361 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 14: It's going to continue to hold a tight monetary policy 362 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 14: for a much longer period of time than people want 363 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 14: to anticipate. It's going to be at least late into 364 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 14: twenty twenty four, maybe into twenty twenty five before the 365 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 14: SAD begins. The process of allowing the overnight Fed funds 366 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 14: rate to decline. So you have to prepare yourself for 367 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 14: an inverted you O curve for a long period of 368 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 14: time going forward. Not higher prices as far as or 369 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 14: not hired levels of interest rates, but high levels of 370 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 14: interest rates for a long period of time. So it's 371 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 14: high for longer and not higher for longer. 372 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: Ah, got it. That is a subtle difference, but a 373 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: significant one. Dennis, Thank you so much for taking the 374 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: time with us. 375 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 14: Amy always a pleasure, thank you, and an honor to 376 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 14: be on in the morning. 377 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: Dennis Gartman, the University of Akron and Dowman Chairman and 378 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: former publisher of The Gartman Letter. 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