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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season seventy seven, Episode

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Speaker 1: two of Daily s Night guyst podcast. We take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness and say, officially off

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Speaker 1: the top cook industries. It's Tuesday, April nine, two thousand nine. Team,

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Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien a K. You can stand

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Speaker 1: me up at the O'Brian well, I won't jack down.

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Speaker 1: I won't jack day, Lisa gust there ain't no easy

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Speaker 1: gray out. All right, that's plenty of that swing and

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always. Buy my cost

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles Gray your MOUs side day and on your

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Speaker 1: mouth bread whenever you reach for me, I'll hot take

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Speaker 1: all that, kay, And what glad is okay? Anyway? So

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Speaker 1: thank you to at uh Anti Linguist m D for

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Speaker 1: that Selene beyond the greatest singer in the world, the

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Speaker 1: great discern for that one. My concert last week and

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Speaker 1: I missed it. Oh really yeah at the Ace, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because damn that's a pretty intimate environment. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it was the Ace whatever that don't they have a

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Speaker 1: theater there? Intimate venue for one Selene one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest singer in the world, in the world take a canoe,

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Speaker 1: go to them. If it's again. If you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: Celine Diona talking about Hurricane Katrina, do yourself a favorite.

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Speaker 1: Look up YouTube clips. I say, YouTube clue what. We

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: the hilarious comedian and podcast host Sophia Alexandra Welcome. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that you had a chance. It

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Speaker 1: seemed like you were gonna comment on how good my

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Speaker 1: singing was. Yeah, I was just going to say, I've

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Speaker 1: never heard you really break down and it was really something.

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Speaker 1: Oh even before the show when he was stopping. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I also was gonna say, it's probably cause you're

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Speaker 1: wearing a V neck today. Yeah, and usually you're real

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Speaker 1: buttoned up. Last time I got business Jack Jack, he

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Speaker 1: falsetto I don't even know. You don't even know like

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Speaker 1: deep V neck Jack is capable used to rock. I

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Speaker 1: have to just for someone who have actually made the

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Speaker 1: terrible mistake of rocking deep V in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: six seven, like trying to get down to the navel

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Speaker 1: there isn't a deeper V, but when you can see

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Speaker 1: a deep V. That's also I have high chest hair,

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Speaker 1: like an inch under your shoulders. I have a very

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Speaker 1: art of Jack's body discussion, chest hair, shoulder nipples, and

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Speaker 1: just sweat. It's also a great color of DEEV for

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Speaker 1: my sweat stains that come through, So look out for

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Speaker 1: the picture on Insta. What do you think of the

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Speaker 1: deep thirst trapping out let people live their lives. They're like,

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Speaker 1: did you shake? Did you hang? That? Hurt? Never mind?

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Speaker 1: I sucked the whole jokes. I'll go back tomorrow. It'll

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Speaker 1: be It'll still be good to write that one out.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming off the cuff. I have a question, though,

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Speaker 1: deep VS. What do you think when you see somebody

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Speaker 1: in the Year of Our Lord two thousand nineteen rubbing

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Speaker 1: the deep as s V that isn't all muscle bound?

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Speaker 1: I for sure thing that you're like a fun boy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like like art that ran for me. There No, no, no, Miles,

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Speaker 1: you're not that deep talking. I'll show you when we

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Speaker 1: get off Mike. I have you know I used to

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Speaker 1: rock the American apparel fucking deep V. I could kind

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Speaker 1: of picture that, and also I could picture you're in

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Speaker 1: tank tops. Were you ever big into tank tops? No? No,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's the stage you're gonna get into.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, what's this summer? Summer nineteen is tank

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Speaker 1: top season? Tank top miles. Watch for that on Insta.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment, Sophia. But first we're going to

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of the things we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. Uh, We're gonna talk about something

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Speaker 1: that is in the news today, the rude robo call

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Speaker 1: I got earlier from No don't know it's happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the show is becoming your soapbox, my place to complain

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Speaker 1: about kids these days. That he is a little too deep, right,

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Speaker 1: he's just getting too loose here. The next story's I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, He's like Eric Merchant loser. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Next up, my neighbor. Uh No, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: modern monetary theory. Maybe say that was such confident. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm an expert on it, so I'm gonna explain it

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Speaker 1: to you. We're gonna talk about Herman Kine. Yes, that

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Speaker 1: uh and Dunning Krueger Effect, which is one of our

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Speaker 1: favorite topics here on dir Daily Cause. But first, Sophie,

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Speaker 1: we like to ask our guess, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well?

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Speaker 1: I just was searching Alvin Ailey because I want to

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Speaker 1: at cool pictures. Do yourself a favor. Next time they're

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Speaker 1: in town, Um, you should go see them. Alvin Eley

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Speaker 1: is like this black choreographer that started the Alvanly Dance

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Speaker 1: Company that's like primarily black, and they do incredible work.

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Speaker 1: They're like I see dance all the time and they're

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Speaker 1: like crazy Google mode, So, um, what did you say

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Speaker 1: like they do revelations every time they come, which is

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Speaker 1: like really beautiful. Um, and favorite book of the Bible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I stand hard for revelations. And then

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Speaker 1: from the last time I saw them. It's just like pieces.

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Speaker 1: So this is regularly said the last time, so you

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Speaker 1: go every year. Oh nice, this is like now at

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Speaker 1: least five years ago, were you dancer? I did? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: that makes sense, not nearly, as I was very average

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Speaker 1: And then I was trying to figure out the other day.

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Speaker 1: my ego side to see some titties. I will do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a very big person. You have that right,

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Speaker 1: my Oh that's right? Okay, yep, that phrase from somewhere.

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Speaker 1: It is huge, impressing, committed. What is something you think

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Speaker 1: is overrated? Coachella? M WHOA right, No one else has

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Speaker 1: ever said that. But the reason I brought that up

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Speaker 1: is better Couchella. To my friend Dave Rankin, who is

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Speaker 1: Parts and Down, Okay, he does this thing every year

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Speaker 1: where he'll turn on the live feed from Coachella and

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Speaker 1: room to room. Got you, I thought you were Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for a second, I think you said Cowella and I

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Speaker 1: was like, but yeah, Colchella. I've done that a few times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that he respects the different stages in his different rooms. Normally,

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Speaker 1: I'm just on the YouTube thing because it's always used

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: because I like, you know, when you see live shows,

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Speaker 1: sometimes bands will really do longer versions of songs and

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Speaker 1: that's like the cool part of like seeing a band live.

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Speaker 1: And that's like usually when my phone more kicks and

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Speaker 1: Billie's that Dave Matthews does? My mind? That's my Yeah,

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Speaker 1: drum solo and so much to say. Another day of

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Speaker 1: great Dave Matthews track in the Live at Red Rocks

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Speaker 1: one that's amazing. No the gor Wait, so what did

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Speaker 1: you say. You didn't say cow Cella. You said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: The country you're both right, is a stagecoach, and the

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Speaker 1: performers are all bovines. An amazing very hard to get

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Speaker 1: You have to turn Beyonce down because she's clearly not

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Speaker 1: a bovine, right, Yeah, you can't break any rules, so

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Speaker 1: launch I read that she just had to cancel her Coachella.

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Speaker 1: Yeah performance, Yeah, because like some production elements weren't coming

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Speaker 1: together in time. Oh ship which damp coach Ella sucks

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Speaker 1: because that new album is really good. Yeah what I

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Speaker 1: mean that she just gets better and better. And for

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Speaker 1: I'll just go live somewhere. She's pushing through. She's a

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because I think that's the

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Speaker 1: trap anyone would fall into when your sisters. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: song I'm a Survivor is really based on Solange's experience.

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Speaker 1: Do you think she ghost wrote it for her? Beyonce

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Speaker 1: just like, listen to this when you get down She's like,

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Speaker 1: cameo outfigured off that Camel's actually our mom made those

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Speaker 1: the nation, you know, how to do anything. Who else

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Speaker 1: the Right Brothers, you know how we were always like

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Speaker 1: that one is super, the other one's trash. Always can't

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Speaker 1: the Powerhouse, the bush Whackers, right, the w WF wrestling

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm trying to think of anybody. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: usually kids to like, kids of athletes, I think really

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Speaker 1: I don't like the same name, and like you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: even like I get I get it. Yeah you look

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Speaker 1: something called modern monetary theory right now, which I didn't

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Speaker 1: death Like the idea that deficits lead to runaway inflation

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Speaker 1: But if every dollar you spend is going into making

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Speaker 1: ledger kind of fundamentally misunderstands what like how government works. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because like the government is not a economic entity. Like

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00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: the government prints its own money. That's a fundamental difference.

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Speaker 1: They can print more money if they want to, And

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Speaker 1: the only thing that should stop them from printing more

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Speaker 1: money is if they are worried about inflation. But otherwise,

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Speaker 1: like they should just be creating programs and creating money

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Speaker 1: to stimulate growth. But then, so, at what point does

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Speaker 1: the deficit actually become a bad thing because we just

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Speaker 1: see growing and growing. So is this saying, look, don't

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Speaker 1: worry about what the bill looks like because it's being

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Speaker 1: spent correctly. Yeah. Basically, Ah, well, I wonder if right

435
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Speaker 1: now we're actually that deficit is actually being spent in

436
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Speaker 1: a way that's beneficial to the country. Right. The theorists

437
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Stephanie Kelton said that it's not the deficits don't matter,

438
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Speaker 1: it's that they're not. Deficits are not a sign of

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Speaker 1: excessive spending or a war runner of inflation, but they

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Speaker 1: can be too big. So it's it's just like basically

441
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Speaker 1: changing the yardstick that you use to judge, like you

442
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't once you're not like fully coming up in

443
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: the black on the like government ledger, you shouldn't start panicking.

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00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: It's more using inflation as the yardstick that you used

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Speaker 1: to measure whether your deficit is getting too big. I

446
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: should tell that to my credit card company. They point

447
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: to the last seven biggest American depressions or downturns going

448
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: back two years. We're all preceded by government surpluses. So

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Speaker 1: basically they're saying that if the government is running a surplus,

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Speaker 1: then you're kind of sucking with the economy because you're

451
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: not spending enough and you need to actually like spend

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Speaker 1: to create a healthy society. He has Trump advocated for

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Speaker 1: this theory, yet he has not. I feel like because right,

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Speaker 1: this is sort of kind of the way we look

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Speaker 1: at it, or at least the like, the way the

456
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: government spends money is like, our every dollar we give

457
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: in taxes is the budget that the government has to

458
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: spend money, When really they're looking at it is like, okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the budget. This is what we're going to spend.

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00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: This is what we got in taxes. Here's the difference.

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Speaker 1: Keep it moving, right. And that may have been overly simplistic,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's the thing that stuck out to

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Speaker 1: me the most is this model that we or I

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Speaker 1: was used to looking at it because I'm not an

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Speaker 1: economist or economist it's pronounced a great magazine, um, but

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00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: that was sort of the model. But this is a

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00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: this is that modern ship. Right Basically, as long as

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00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: there's you know, companies and people and actors within the

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00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: economy there to absorb the government expenditure and like spend

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Speaker 1: the money and use it and to keep it moving

471
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Speaker 1: rather moving over watering a plant whose cup runneth over,

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Speaker 1: then you get that's what you have to look out for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I thought. I was just on the phone

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00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: with Paul Krugman this week, so we're talking. Uh well,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I told when I called Chase Bank.

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00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: I was like, look, bro, this this deficit I have

477
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Speaker 1: with y'all is not an indicator of the runaway spending actually,

478
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Speaker 1: and I think we need to change our yardstick right

479
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Speaker 1: for how we look at this. They still hit you

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00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: with those over draft fees though, huh yeah, but you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I told him this is all fake, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, It's all it's on the either. But it

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Speaker 1: is that like sometimes when you get like financial advice,

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Speaker 1: even on like a personal level, you know, you you

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Speaker 1: like start thinking of that as an absolute until it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even serve you anymore. Like in the beginning, people

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Speaker 1: who are like when you're starting out there like don't

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Speaker 1: have you know, don't have a debit card, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're really young, don't really do the credit card

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00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: thing because you're going to overdraft blah blah blah. But

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Speaker 1: then like as you get older, you need to build

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00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: credit and we do need to have credit cards, and

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00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: you just spend and pay them off and it actually

494
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: makes more sense to put everything on a credit card.

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Speaker 1: Because you get points back and you start like doing

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Speaker 1: all that ship. But like it's the same thing about

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Speaker 1: like moving the yardstick. It's like the rules are different

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00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: once you get to a different stage. And yeah, and

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00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: you just can't just don't spend what you don't have, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's when it gets out of control, because like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I would. It took me so long to actually

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Speaker 1: trust myself with a credit card because I could not.

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Speaker 1: I was just terrible with my finances. Uh. And luckily

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Speaker 1: I just stuck to that because my desk here the

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Speaker 1: ship out of me and he was like, you will

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Speaker 1: be you will be forever fucked if you just like

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Speaker 1: have a credit card run away from you, especially when

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: I was like twenty two and spending it on fucking

509
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: weed and like, yeah, and when you signed up for

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00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: the credit cards because you wanted to get that like

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00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: weed joked T shirt, right, that's what happened to me.

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Speaker 1: I gotta you promised coffee mug with this. I was like,

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00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: wait a minute, a Converse all Star logo, but it's

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00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Converse all high Star. It didn't even make sense. I

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00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, get whatever you want, whatever you need,

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Speaker 1: I'll sign my soul away for that shirt like a shoe.

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Speaker 1: All right, her Men Kane is back in the pocket. Yeah, damn,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's nimble. Uh, the confidence is just emanating

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Speaker 1: off of me. Trump picked. I'm sorry you put it

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Speaker 1: in miles terms that overflow with your cup, with your cup.

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00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: There you go. So the president has picked Herman Kane

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Speaker 1: to run the FED. Yeah, the tax plan guy and

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00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: godfather pizza lord. Now remind everybody what is the plan.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to Basically, his whole thing was like

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Speaker 1: I'm simplifying the whole tax code and saying that it

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Speaker 1: would just be a mix of flat taxes. So there'll

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Speaker 1: be a nine percent sales tax, national sales tax, nine

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Speaker 1: percent corporate income tax Oh wow cool nine percent uh,

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Speaker 1: and nine percent individual income tax to be like yeah,

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Speaker 1: and like we'll just make it real simple and we

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Speaker 1: can keep it moving. But everyone's like, oh, that disproportionately

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00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: hurts like lower income people by being like, so why

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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: should a person and a corporation be taxed the same amount?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, we keep trying to sell this

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Speaker 1: whole keep. They keep trying to sell the whole corporation

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00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: as a person thing, and it's just like yeah, well,

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00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: it's gotten us absolutely nowhere. But anyway, so yeah, he's

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00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the he's the man with like those really cool, you know,

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00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: futuristic ideas that basically only benefit the wealthy. Um. So

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00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that's a little bit freaky is

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00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: because you know, unlike the e p A, the FED.

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00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: Like I mean not to say that the EP isn't

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00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: doing good work, but like the FED is really one

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00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: of those institutions that like has to remain independent because

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00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: it's like the adult in the room being like, Hi,

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00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: we're the central bank, and like we can't just funk around,

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: like we have to actually make sure we're doing what's

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: right for the economy now, which is good because people

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00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: on Wall Street or growing about something. And you know,

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00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the thing is, the two biggest functions with the FED

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00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: are supervision and policy. So on one hand, they oversee

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00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: like financial firms like you know, holding companies and chartered

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00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: banks within the system. Um uh. They also uh like

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00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: they're just also just the general supervisor of all of

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00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: these banking institutions, so they have to make sure there's

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00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: no nothing, no bullshit happening, no factory uh, just you

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00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: know supervisor. Great policy. Also, they also have to set

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00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: monetary policy with things that you know, they have two

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00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: main objectives, which are price stability and full employment, and

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00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: like those are like their north star that they're trying

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00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: to follow. Um. So you know, and if we've also

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00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: saw like with bailouts and things, they also can do

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00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: emergency lending and things like that. So having people who

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00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: like are not in touch with, like, you know, the

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00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: nuances of the economy or like aren't even economists in

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00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: those positions is a fucking really bad thing. But a

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00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: guy who's not a politician as president. So it's like, yeah,

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00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: well but here's the thing. I mean, there's no like

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Speaker 1: it's always been the same sort of type type of

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00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, just wonky economy nerds who like work at

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00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: the Fed and like they get it. And like the

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00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: last person that he Trump picked or nominated was this

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Speaker 1: guy Stephen Moore, who was like a total He was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really an economist. Stephen like admitted that, uh,

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00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: and you know he was like held in contempt of core.

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00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: Heeled his like ex wife like over three hundred thousand

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00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: and like alimony and child support. This dude was just

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00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: not did not have it together on John Oliver. They

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00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: showed a clip of him just like making terrible jokes.

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00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: He was just like not the kind of person that

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00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: would instill confidence in someone running like the country's central bank.

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00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: And he's just another person that Trump picked off TV

583
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: and also wrote a book called trump Anomics and just

584
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: was always just saying really making really cloning statements about Trump.

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00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting and like funked up about the

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00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: whole period in histories that like, uh, it's kind of

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00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: like we didn't think when you did to say things

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00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: or like have them in writing or in laws where

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00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, only a person who is an economist

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00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: in charge of the central bank, you know, or hey,

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00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: you can't appoint someone ahead of the e P A

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00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: who doesn't believe science or whatever things like that, Like

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Speaker 1: we didn't think we had to write that down, or

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00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: like if you've been if it's been confirmed that you've

595
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: been accused of sexual assault and like it's on tape,

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00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: you can't be president. Like we didn't think we had

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00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: to put in writing you can't be this and also

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00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: be this because we were like, oh, well, everyone understands

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00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: and respects the institution and we were idiots because not

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00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: everyone does. And now we're having to like articulate common

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00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: sense into laws just like to help us be like, yeah,

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00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: I guess we have to write a law that don't

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00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: flirt with foreign governments in an election or you know,

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00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: higher experts to run these very very important institutions. Anyway,

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00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: next while we're passing, it's like, you can't be a

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00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: murderer and also be our president. They're like, wait, what

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00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean Herman Kaine's credit, he did have a position

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Speaker 1: as director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City,

609
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: but that is like just that's a lot of money. Yeah,

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00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: but that's but that's running the business side of things,

611
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: like running that. There was no policy work involved with that,

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00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: And this is like this is a position where you

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00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: fucking need that kind of expertise, and it's just sort

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00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: of going out to Kansas makes less money than like

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00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: one suburb of Los Angeles. Yeah, I don't trust that

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00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: guy with their money. Well, I mean it's a you know,

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00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: this is at least it's better than Stephen Moore, who

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00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: was just like I don't really like it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They're all fucking really frightening people. Either way,

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00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: We're not actually having someone you know, because when you

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Speaker 1: run the Federal Reserve and like sending interest rates and

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that, you have to kind of be like

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Speaker 1: really serious about everything, and having like Herman Kine or

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00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: this other dude out there is just not a good look.

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00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: And when you see how the market responds just to

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00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: comments from Trump, like having that from someone who runs

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00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: the actual central bank could be even worse. But this

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00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: is also comes at a time when you have people

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Speaker 1: like Jamie Diamond, who's like the head of JP Morgan

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00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: Chase being like, yeah, student dead is hurting the economy.

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00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, so you want someone who's understanding we

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00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: have these other things going on, these other factors in

633
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the economy that have to be considered rather than Godfather pizza. Right. Yeah,

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00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we need a second so let's hear

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00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: more about this pizza pepperoni theory. I feel like we

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00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: need things written down. And I also want somebody to

637
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: start studying like what jobs lead like what experience and

638
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: what jobs lead to being good in other jobs. I

639
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: feel like that's not studied enough, and so we give

640
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: which skills are Yeah, Like I've always thought it was

641
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: weird that the fact that like Hunky a list actors

642
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: turned out to be decent directors, is weird, rather than

643
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: like really good actors like and talking Yeah, I'm like,

644
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: who are you talking about? Like Ben Affleck, Robert Redford.

645
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: So it's like something East would. It's like it's like

646
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: people who like just know how to look good on

647
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: camera but aren't necessarily like, you know, actors, actors, they

648
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: kind of so like that. That's just something I've always

649
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: like an observation I made. But I'm sure somebody has

650
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: like studied this for the head of the FED or

651
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: something like that and been like, this specific job leads

652
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: very well into being Yeah, like people who were point

653
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: guards tend to be good basketball coaches like things like that.

654
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's not and only a few,

655
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: like former soccer players actually end up being good managers.

656
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: It's weird, like not many players actually fall into the

657
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: role of manager that won't soccer And it's like usually

658
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: like the nerds on the sideline who have just been

659
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: like just like, oh, let me get in there and

660
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: do what I got to do with a coach. Uh. Well,

661
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that FED study did show

662
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: that if you are involved with a successful franchise of

663
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: pizza locations that, Yeah, that makes you the best for leading.

664
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: But like I do, I do wonder what he was

665
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: doing on a day to day basis, like as the

666
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: head of the Kansas City, Like it's just managing a

667
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: business because that's what he was in. Like, that's all

668
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: he was doing when he was doing the pizza thing.

669
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: Like he can run businesses, but that's different. Things are

670
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: giving him enough credit. Okay, it could be a Papa

671
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: John Yeah, oh ship, has anybody consulted him? Yeah? But

672
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: what he's thinking about the time, Jesus, Well, let's say

673
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: a quick goodbye America's papa. Yeah, I mean he's the

674
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: Papa and our Uh let's say quick goodbye to Christian Nielsen. Uh.

675
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: You want to have to struggle with that name everything? Yeah,

676
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: Rex Stagg, Barbie Stagg Barbie, she's out of here. She

677
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: had to resign on. I'm always like annoyed when Kristen's

678
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: tried to do a lot with their name. I'm like,

679
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: you're a Christien just little bit that's trying to like,

680
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: yeah it's Kirsten or no, it's Kristen with two season

681
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: and pree case and a silent f I'm like, you're

682
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: all Christian's. Wow, I'm gonna get a lot of hate mail.

683
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean, in God's eyes, were all Christian's. When the

684
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: nights are off, we're all no. But she's Danish, you know,

685
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: because I think she's day issues. I know, but yeah,

686
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, I got Becauld. You imagine she changed

687
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: her name in college. She was actually Christen. I'm actually

688
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: um well. So on the weekend, she had a meeting

689
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: with Trump that she thought was going to clear the

690
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: air or like they were going to find a way forward,

691
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: because they have just been butting heads. Apparently, because despite

692
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: all the terrible ship she does, she would tell the

693
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: president like just basic stuff like oh yeah, what you're

694
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: asking is illegal. And then that just came to a

695
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: head in like thirty minutes into this interview. He's like, yeah,

696
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: I need you, I need you out of here. So

697
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: I need that resignation. And so it came out. I

698
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so I'm resigning. And the look on

699
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: her face she looked like she was at peace. She

700
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, and I gotta think the president, but

701
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: Wednesday will be my last day. And I was like,

702
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: this is the best decision I've ever made. And you know,

703
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: like when you sort of like see what their relationship was.

704
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: It just seemed like, what is the freakiest ship is

705
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: that Apparently she just wasn't fucking cruel enough for Trump

706
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: because he would call her, Uh this is like in

707
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: the New York Times, I think this is This is

708
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: a quote from that the President berated miss Nielsen, regularly

709
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: calling her at home early in the morning to demand

710
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: that she take action to stop migrants from entering the country,

711
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: including doing things that were clearly illegal, like blocking all

712
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: migrants from seeking asylum. She repeatedly noted that limitations imposed

713
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: on her department by federal laws, court settlements, and international obligations.

714
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, were oblig Uh. So now you know, Stephen Miller,

715
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get his shot to just stack

716
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: this thing with like xenophoe mutant, just supervillains to run DHS,

717
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: because it looks like even also the head of the

718
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Secret Service also got the booty, and it's like and

719
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: people are trying to suspect, oh, you're really just taking

720
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: everybody out of DHS who's actually saying things like oh yeah,

721
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: that's illegal, and just trying to replace it with just

722
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: the grossest type of sycophant. Yes, people who are like,

723
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: whatever you want, whatever you want, it doesn't matter how

724
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: vile it is. Do people think that the Secret Service

725
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: director getting booted has something to do with the mar

726
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: Lago like security concerns? I mean, that was at least

727
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: my first thought. But Miles, you're saying that that, I mean,

728
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: it depends on you know. It's then the reporting a

729
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: source at the Secret Service saying it wasn't connected. Yeah, right, Uh,

730
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: that it wasn't having to do with the moral Lago incident.

731
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: But as they describe it, a near systematic purge happening

732
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: at what is the second largest national security agency. UM

733
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: And because I think Stephen Miller is now leading border policies,

734
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: it's like he has to get people in DHS to

735
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: act out his vile plan, whatever that's going to be.

736
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: And it can't just be people who like know the law,

737
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: because what they're trying to do is illegal. But anyway,

738
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: worry not for reich Stock, Barbie, because your legacy will

739
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: remain because there are tens of thousands of children who

740
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: are still separated from their families, and based on like

741
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: an optimistic estimate, it would probably take around two years

742
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: to fully identify and reunify. A lot of these kids

743
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: like to get everybody off. So I mean, honestly, you know,

744
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: I joked that like she was at peace, but I

745
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: hope she never fucking finds any kind of peace, you know.

746
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: I hope you're treated like the fucking pariah that you are,

747
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: you know, because this is like you could have fucking

748
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: resigned a long time ago, but guess what, you're the

749
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: face of this policy, and you can you can run

750
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: away now, but the damage has been done. And just

751
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: just to underline another thing, when you think about all

752
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: the cabinet positions that are vacant right now, there's currently

753
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: just an acting DHS Secretary and acting Defense Secretary and

754
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: acting Interior Secretary and acting White House Chief of Staff

755
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: and acting United Nations Ambassador and an acting Food and

756
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: Drug Administration commissioner, and these are he's still yet to

757
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: actually put those people in there, Like he hasn't even

758
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: done it yet. It's not like people there are certain

759
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: positions that haven't been filled since he came into office,

760
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: which is wild. And they say even with DHS or

761
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: d O D, it's been two months where that position

762
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: is been vacant and it hasn't been like that, Like

763
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: the last time there was a vacancy that long was

764
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: like seventy years ago. Yeah, no adults. And then also

765
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: when you look at DHS, there's no secretaries, said, there's

766
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: no deputy secretary, there's no Secret Service chief, there's no

767
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: head of FEMA, there's no head of ICE, there's no

768
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: head of Science and Technology. There's just like just it's

769
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: a full on ghost town. Yeah. I guess the only

770
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: thing we can rely on or the courts to actually

771
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: interpret the laws and you know, actually make decisions. Yeah,

772
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: because I know they've been packed. That is the one

773
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: thing he's gotten busy doing. He and the Republicans have

774
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: gotten busy doing, is getting super uber conservative judges confirmed. Yeah,

775
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: I guess they did rule that just keeping everybody in

776
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: Mexico was not legal. No. Well, because he's just trying

777
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: to basically end the asylum program like by just you know,

778
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: pulling up the ladder, and because he quite really over

779
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: the weekend was like sorry, no room, there's no more room. Yeah, right,

780
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be

781
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. And we've talked before on

782
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: the Daily z Eyegeist about the Dunning Krueger effect. Uh,

783
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: it's the Daily z eyegeist. The Dailies Eye Guist is

784
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: a podcast that you and I host. Oh shit, that's yeah, yeah,

785
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, that's where all those pants on people. Yeah,

786
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: you're speaking into a microphone right now. People can see you.

787
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: They can't not when I have these glasses. Sophia, we

788
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: have to explain something about podcasts. Yeah, you host a podcast.

789
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what a podcast is other than the

790
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: one that you host. I don't know about it anyways.

791
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: Dunning Kruger effect is when basically the people who are

792
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: not good at something they don't know how much they

793
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: don't know, and so they think they're better at it

794
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: than they actually are. So SoundCloud rappers and open My

795
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: comedians and people who are good at something are fully

796
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: aware of what they don't know, and so they're a

797
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: little bit at least they're harder on themselves when it

798
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: comes to comparing themselves with the average syndrome. So I

799
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: think we've tended to talk about it when it comes

800
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: to intelligence, Like, you know, people I don't know for

801
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: some reason. Uh, the first season of Jersey Shore always

802
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: pops into my head was like a like a thing

803
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: where the Yeah, hell he like grew up over there.

804
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Wow you said that was such a discuss, mean, like

805
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: like emphatically, because I remember like when you're like, yeah,

806
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: like I go to the shore family, we go to

807
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: the shore, and I was like, for really, so not

808
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: back was like any tanning or laundry or gym or anything. Yeah,

809
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: that's a laundry day, all right. So when you're making

810
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: that graphic of Jack, make him a Jersey shore type Broyes, Wow,

811
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: Harry tan v tan you actually get a good tan though,

812
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: So I believe that. Hey man, that means a lot

813
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: to me. But anyways, just I think we tended to

814
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: cover it from the standpoint of like dumb people thinking

815
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: they're smart. And there's there's how Crash won that Academy Awards,

816
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: Like it's like a dumb movie for dumb people who

817
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: think they're smart. It's a dumb person's idea of a

818
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: smart movie. Yeah, and then they congratulate themselves on it.

819
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: They're like, we really got it, would you like it to?

820
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: Like I get, and like what's to get? It's terrible

821
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: the way Matt Dilan was like that white savior to

822
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: that color. I mean, what about Sandra Bullock and her

823
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: best friend and housekeeper. Everything about that movie is so

824
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: crdin I could just die. But so there's a kind

825
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: of been some nuanced studies that look at the things

826
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: that people tend to be over confident about and under

827
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: confident about. Okay, kind of fucked with me, the things

828
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: that we tend to be over confident about having interesting conversations.

829
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: We think we're more interesting in conversation than we are.

830
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean would have thought as we've talked in to

831
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: these microphonests. We think we're better at getting an animal

832
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: to like us. Okay, your dog Ace was just in

833
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: my lap again, rejected. He loves me. No, okay, because

834
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: that's what I've noticed. My dog like, we'll go up

835
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: and start looking people when they have lotion on. We're

836
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: just like, oh, he loves you. Favor just my energy,

837
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Like I just vibe really well. I don't know. I

838
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: am avoiding falling for a fraud makes sense? Oh, very gullible,

839
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: are you? My husband is like stop almost writing checks

840
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: to people who come soliciting at the door. I'm like,

841
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, they're in a program. He's like, they're

842
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: not go but it's like, stop it No, but it's

843
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: first of it's kind on the market. You don't understand.

844
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: It's Trader Joe's people selling me a sob story. I

845
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Speaker 1: want to support this little league team. He's like, there

846
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: is not a little league team. This person is seventeen

847
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: winning a game of trivia. This is that's me. Like

848
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: all of these so far, I have been like, but

849
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: this one doesn't apply to me because I'm super aware

850
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: of how bad I am at all these and maybe not,

851
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: maybe I'm worse than night kissing, kissing, driving, using a computer,

852
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: being a reliable friend, and controlling your emotions when it's

853
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: useful to do so. Okay, way to sub tweet me?

854
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: Which one are you? What are you over confident about?

855
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: You probably being a rival friend? I mean, like, you know,

856
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: I think you all are like. I think I'm a

857
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: pretty good friend, and I bet you a lot of

858
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: people are like, she is a good friend. But I

859
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: think I also probably funk up more often than I

860
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: register because I just remember about what a good friend

861
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: of self preservation, right, Because when you funk up in

862
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: terms of being a friend, it's usually because you're not

863
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: even like thinking about the things. And so like a

864
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: lot of these come down to uh like availability bias,

865
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Speaker 1: I think is what they call it. Daniel Kaneman's book

866
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Thinking Fast and Slow, where they talk about like how

867
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Speaker 1: we get things wrong because we overestimate the thing that

868
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: is immediately available to us. So like when it comes

869
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Speaker 1: to winning a game of trivia, it's like you just

870
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: think of all the trivia you know, and you're like, oh,

871
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking crush this. You can't. You can't think

872
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: of the trivia you don't know, so you're not gonna

873
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: be like good at thinking of all the answers you're

874
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: going to get wrong. Um, and like with being a

875
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: reliable friend, the thing that we're going to remember is

876
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: like that time we went out of our way when

877
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: we were the hero of our own narrative and their narrative,

878
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: and less the time when you just I didn't really

879
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: think about it, but you kind of sucked over here. Yeah.

880
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: So now here's the stuff that people tend to be

881
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: under confident about, which is some of these are, uh,

882
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: don't make you feel as good as you might have hoped.

883
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: So recovering from the death of a loved one where

884
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: apparently like we think it's going to hurt us more

885
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: than we're just like, just move the funk on. I

886
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if that's what they're saying to

887
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: the Jack O'Briens school of grieving, but but that you

888
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Speaker 1: can make something bad sound sound bad. What do you

889
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: how do you flex the other way? Like, Yo, I'm

890
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: sick at getting over a loved one's death. But yeah,

891
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, these are these are all ones

892
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: that I'm like, no, but I would be terrible at that.

893
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: So it's it just proves like that these are things

894
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm probably wrong about in the same way as I'm

895
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: wrong about the things that we're sick at getting over

896
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: the death of a loved one. I think that i'd

897
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: be really bad. Challenge accept Jack's wife worse than your

898
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: back seat. Oh god, I'm so sorry. She literally listens

899
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: to this podcast in her car, so, uh, don't turn

900
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: around because you're gonna see me behind. Uh. We think

901
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: that we're going to be worse than most at riding

902
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 1: a unicycle, which is a weird fact. How many people

903
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: did they test who have then written a unicycle? Yeah,

904
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, we think we're there's a lot

905
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: of weird ones on here. We think we're worse than

906
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: we are predicting which sports team will win, which it

907
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: seems like there's a whole gambling industry otherwise. But it

908
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: was that easy. Yeah, playing soccer is an interesting one?

909
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: Is that one? What are they asking people? This is

910
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: so weird. It is so weird painting a portrait. But like,

911
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: by with the specificity, it seems like it indicates and

912
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: maybe this is their whole editorial strategy. But by making

913
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: it specific, you're like, huh, maybe maybe they did like

914
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: really specific studies. Maybe they made everybody do each one

915
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: of the things and then they killed a loved one,

916
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: that's right, Or did they just list things right? Well,

917
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: like like the people wrote these in or something like

918
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: that seems like an American be like, dude, I'm probably

919
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: not good at like soccer, right, Yeah, no, for sure

920
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: that that probably is because like you'd have an ego,

921
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: right if you were like trying to be like things

922
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: I can feel good about saying I'm not good at

923
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know if i'd be good at

924
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: like getting over someone's death. I don't know if i'd

925
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: be good at driving a race car. Of course, I'm

926
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: just a regular person. I don't know if i'd be

927
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: good at painting a portrait and another one making a

928
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: billion dollars, Yeah, that one makes. How do they figure

929
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: out kissing? They ask everybody you kiss Not like there

930
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: is a study that's like how you rate yourself as

931
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: a kisser, and then how people who have kissed you

932
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: rate you as a kisser. But how do they find

933
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: everybody you've kissed? Well? Most of so most of these

934
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: sorts of studies that are like self reported probably full

935
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: of ship studies are like done on kids in college

936
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: basically because that's who's available to academics. So the kissing

937
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: one probably would be easier than getting over the loved

938
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: one or the death of a loved one. I don't

939
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how you study that. Yeah, getting real weird.

940
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: But we're bad at playing soccer painting a portrait though,

941
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: guys go out and try it. Apparently you will be

942
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: better at that than you think. Well, Sophia, it has

943
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: been a pleasure having you on Der Daily Sis today.

944
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? I am the Sophia on

945
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram? T H E s O F I

946
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: y A find me. Let's talk about trash TV together.

947
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: You go, you guys, is uh beloved TV show? What's

948
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: it called? I don't we don't know yet. Okay, the

949
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: government shut down fucked things up. Yeah, if you think

950
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Speaker 1: we haven't not been googling, when is it back like

951
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: every day? Or yeah? I was in a meeting with

952
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: a an executive at a streaming company and they were

953
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: and they were saying, like, see, we have access to

954
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: all this like amazing data that like nobody knows about.

955
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: Like who would know that fiance is like secretly incredibly popular?

956
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: I would two people I talked to all the time.

957
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: Now that Yo, did you know? I just googled night

958
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: you know? Do you know what is happening? There's gonna

959
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: be a spinoff show with Chantelle and Pedro. They're getting

960
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: their own motherfucking spinoff series for there. First of all,

961
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: very good, huge news for three of us. Yes, but wow,

962
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: bring the mess on because you know, her brother fought

963
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: him at a dinner and then his sister got involved

964
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: Jack who boy. Also the way she makes like angry

965
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: eyes and her family's kind of whacked. They are, like

966
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: they are like they got that weird American xenophobia ship

967
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: going on where they're like, I don't know, I don't

968
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: Eve can trust him because they're from Republic anyway. Bit

969
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: of news, breaking news? First, is there a tweet you've

970
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: been enjoying, Sophia. I just placed an order of the

971
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: restaurant for all four people in my party who are

972
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: running late and not here yet. The waitress brought me

973
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: one set of utensils without batting an eye, and I'm

974
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: going to tip her one million dollars. Chelsea Devantez, who

975
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: I love, follow her? Uh, miles where can people find you?

976
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles

977
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: of Gray. A tweet I like is a little bit

978
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: of a quote tweet. It's Mama Do and Di, a

979
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: uh stand up comedian, and it is an article from

980
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: n M E that says machine Gun Kelly and g

981
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: Easy called truce after Eminem's intervention quote unquote, and he says,

982
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: finally I could walk the streets again the same Ah. Yeah.

983
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of people were worried

984
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: about what would how that would boil over invention. I

985
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: mean that's why I'm laughing on the sea. See if

986
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Speaker 1: Eminem would interview Yeah, the o G for all the

987
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: white rappers, the shot callers, so shout out to you, Marshall. Marshall, Uh,

988
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Megan am Ram tweeted,

989
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: I wish they took your photo on emotional roller coasters too,

990
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: and bird's rights activists at pro birds Writes, who hosts

991
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: a very funny podcast on this network called Creature Feature.

992
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: She tweeted why birds decided to go from being big

993
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: dinas saucers too small? If you ask to fit inside

994
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: Dorito's bag? Uh? That Twitter account? You can find me

995
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter? Check underscore O'Brien. Do you find us on

996
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist for at the Daily Zygeist on Instagram.

997
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page on a website daileys

998
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: dot com, but we post our episodes and our foot

999
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: we like off to the information that we talked about

1000
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as the song we ride out one. Uh.

1001
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: This is from I believe a band or maybe one

1002
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: person called Infinite Sus like Kisses in Franchas. Isn't that

1003
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: how you pronounced branch? Yeah? Anyway, this is from Infinite

1004
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 1: be Sus and the track is called the soul Mate

1005
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: And you know, just like off your joke s O

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Speaker 1: l e Oh nice so it's like about somebody who

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00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: met somebody who buying the same pair of shoes and

1008
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: then they kissed forever. Yeah, there you go. What a

1009
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: great hoh manta comedy I just wrote. All right, well

1010
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for today's episode. We will be

1011
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: back tomorrow because it is the Daily podcast and we'll

1012
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: talk against the OVN. Something tells me than friend one

1013
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: game so bad, my fun change, So now I'm done.

1014
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Speaker 1: Now