WEBVTT - Don't Gimme No Bammer Podcast w/,Black C 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.880 Gangst the Chronic Goals. This is not your average show. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:10.520 You're now tuned in to the rail spell streets. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.639 Welcome to The gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production of 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.959 iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.880 download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.720 For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.280 subscribed Against the Chronicles and leave a five star rating 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.400 and comment. We're shaking pork chops a begging it's your boy, 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.400 Big Steal with another episode Against the Chronicles along with 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:42.000 my co hosts Jip my partner, what's cracking? What you ate? 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.360 Ship? Everything all good? You know what I'm saying? 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.479 You know, yeah that that that flu adds you down? 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.559 Amnue to go, didn't it a little bit? 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:53.040 And ship? 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.720 But you know, really, I just you know, take the 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.600 time to try to focus on you know, the new year, 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.800 what's been going on. You know, new president, new rules, 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.679 new laws, you know, same nigga, same bullshit. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.360 So you know what it is, Yeah, for sure. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.319 Man. With that being said, we were talking earlier today man, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.720 and we still did. Our focus for twenty and twenty 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.720 five is having more legendary figures from the coast on 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:24.440 you know, right, those unheroed you know, underground legends man, 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.440 the underground heroes Man, the dude that you know don't 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.480 have our trunk rattling, you know, from the nineties on 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.800 up to the two thousands. Man. And you know, I 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.240 think this is as good as start as any we 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.600 got on the black Steed from RBL Poskin the Building Night, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:40.880 Black Sea. What's happening with you? 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.960 Man? What's up with y'all? Man? 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.200 Man shoot Man? Good looking on coming through Man. You 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.400 definitely man, one of those unsung ghetto heroes. Man. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.840 Man, appreciate that. Appreciate that. Man appreciate it. So that's 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.920 another legends man. You know, Yes, indeed, yes, indeed we appreciate. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.520 Try to stay focused and grounded man. You know, uh, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:11.800 not to say that you know niggas Nigga's heritage and 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.079 foundation ain't important, but you know, sometimes you know, when 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.360 you play the position that some of us artists play, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.800 you know, as far as uh being compared to you know, 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.959 positions on the hip. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.200 Hop map, Uh. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.520 Sometimes we play a back seat. So trying to focus 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.760 on a lot of those artists who don't you know, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:37.560 really get you know, invited or you know, invitations or 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.519 brought to the table on certain ship. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:46.400 It's real, dope, yes, real, that's real. I was looking 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.600 at I was reading the book right and I was 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.880 talking to you earlier. I did not realize San Francisco 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.280 head was up there banging like you was. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.200 Except I don't call it. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.560 Ain't like la y'all call the turf wars. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:04.839 Yeah, yeah, it was. It was more of a turf thing. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:05.080 You know. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.280 We represent projects. A lot of people didn't know, like 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.600 San Francisco. They looked at it like a tourist town. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.680 But we got Hella projects up up in there, you know, 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.000 from phil Mo to Sunnydale in fild Mo is Hella 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.880 projects in Hunter's Point where I'm from, Hella projects. I 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:24.880 mean real concrete jungles, you know, like semen slabs, like 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.480 a bunch of them. So you will get it twisted 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.920 and think it's just like Pier thirty nine and like 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.920 the gay area. You know they EBT community over in 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.200 Castro and then you know, but it's a darker side 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.040 over there. And I was I was knee deep in 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.320 it over there, you know what I mean. On Harbor Road, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.800 my projects that I was born and raised in. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.800 Yeah, and it was one of the most dumb I 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.360 guess it was one of the most relatious periods up 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.160 there in San Francisco, Like that period from the when 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.200 was it from eighty eight on up to the nineties. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.120 I'd say eighty seven, around eighty six, late eighty six eighties, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.320 really eighty seven into ninety one. When I called the 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.680 truce was around like around ninety two. So from eighty 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.960 seven to ninety two, it was it was hectic around there. 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.760 Yeah, so you was what would you say, man, was 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.000 the was the root of all that all that funking 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:15.760 that was going down. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.520 It kind of all started, uh really kind of like 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.279 over a female and it kind of escalated when you know, 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.400 certain movies like Colors kind of gassed everybody up, put 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.960 batteries in everybody back around there, you know. But it 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.480 really kind of just like house parties, the party at 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.239 the Meridian, what I could really remember. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:35.800 We're kind of uh. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.080 One of my focus, Ronnie Royn, who was from Hunter's Point, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.839 was from my area. He's from a different project, but 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.840 he was a known figure over there, and he got 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.159 into it with some dudes from Field Mo from like 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:49.960 like I was telling you earlier, with JT, the bigger 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.599 figure and wrapping Foete all them saying Quinn all limits 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.359 from that area, and uh, they got into it behind 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:57.240 the female. 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.440 They tried to take his car at this party. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.440 And from there, you know, it started with like fights, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.840 you know, just really just punching and fighting and all that, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.680 you know, having little little squabbles or whatever. And they 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.679 went from there to you know, mofucker, pull out a pistol. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.160 Once you get hit once, once a person gets shot. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.800 It was the back and forth. And I said all 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.480 stemmed from really everybody started getting guns when the crack hit. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.160 We all started selling. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.560 And when they would have just you know, dolphins coming through, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.240 you know, you getting dop feed rentals, you you you 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.160 buying the pistols and all that, and all of a 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.600 sudden it went from fighting. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:34.080 To sound like the same type of. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.840 Ship saying you know, it was the same story really everywhere. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.760 And it was, uh, you know, it was an era 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.320 where we came up on guns. You know, the riots 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.040 or whatever. Niggas was breaking in the gun stores, surplus stores, 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.000 you know, So thus the hood got the fluctuation of 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.800 weapons and ammunition. And you know, I think that era 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:59.240 was real critical for everybody in the beginning hoods been 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.640 around and ship, you know. But you know, there's like 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:05.840 a point in time, just like a point in history 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:12.520 where it's a significant event, certain situations and ship and 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.400 that did it for a lot of us, you know, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.159 around that Colors era, you know, the Rodney King ship. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:25.320 It was always but you know, not to misguide motherfuckers. Uh, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:31.040 it's always been a fluctuation of inner city problems within 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.919 those sections with niggas, and you know it was it 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.320 was just that where niggas was trying to grow up 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:41.839 in the neighborhoods and protect the sections. But still just 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.320 eventually that's what it turned into. You know, we wasn't 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:53.040 turn turned nigga switch blades, turning the motherfucking deuce deuces 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.680 and shot them. You know, we gotta we got our 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:01.960 hand on the motherfucking said the war guns and ship. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.159 You know, some niggas thought they was Billy the kid 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.839 like niggas. It's old the cracking. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.600 Real talk, you said, switch blades and then that's what 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.520 my old g's that's what they was doing that. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.440 The the worst was like a. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:20.760 Nightca niggas went for Niggas went for motherfucking fingers, fingers 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:26.280 snapping and whipping out, change and backs, and niggas got 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.720 changed and bats a nigga want one nigga pulled out 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.520 to switch blade niggas like oh ship. One of the 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:35.280 confrontations with niggas was like, okay, niggas switch blades and fish. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.240 Some nigga pulled off the dou stows. It was like, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:44.040 oh sh real talk. That's when you knew, nigga that 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.440 the the motherfucking territory is is finna be known and 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.560 ship because you don't motherfucking wanting to beat niggas asses 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.440 to want to blast on niggas. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:55.760 The one that's serious. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.720 Yeah, real talk, real talk, like we didn't have like 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.240 it just it just kind of automatically turned into something 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.360 like a gang. Because you know, when you're growing up 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.559 like in the projects, you got all your homies, you playing, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.840 you know, you're going to the boys club with We 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.000 had like our flag football league, basketball league. We was 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.200 playing all the little h twelve and ups and thirteen 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:18.880 in us we grew up with, and we were just in 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.360 there and just the dudes we'd be squabbling with and 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.160 pretty soon you just kind of become that, you know, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.200 we all of a sudden, Harborough become hr D. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.480 Now we representing hr D, you know, slash right. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.000 So it just just became that. We never really said 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.920 we was a gang. It was just we just hung 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:36.559 with each other and it just be out of a sudden, 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.360 just became that, you know what I mean. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.760 So well, you know what, it's the same thing. And 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.199 the late to I think people got it like kind 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.800 of misconstrued a little bit thinking because they think about 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.440 the colors. The first thing they think about us the colors, right, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.839 what really is just about the neighborhood. It's the same 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.120 thing as yours, you know. You know when he was 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.199 doing what he was doing, it was all about his neighborhood. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.280 You know what I'm saying. It sounded like it's the 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.320 same thing. One of the things that tripped me out, man, 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.199 is that when you had got shot man a little 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.040 bit further man, you got your whole head blew off NT. 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:09.800 Yeah. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.720 Yeah, if I was a little bit closer when they 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.400 did the drive by the dudes from Sunnydale, you know, 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.200 and that day we had jumped them on Third Street. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.080 Third Street is like a crenchya out here, where everybody 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.120 decided in their cars. You know, showing off, going up 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.920 and down the street with they slap, doing ay things, 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.160 showing off with some dudes from another side, some other projects, 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.120 Swampy Desert, Sunnydal They came through and they about like 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.120 three four cars. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.240 We jumped them that day and you. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.240 Know, everybody get the congregate and go back up to 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.560 the projects talking about what they did. I did this, 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.080 I did that, and yeah, they kind of slipping and 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.600 you know, I was strapped up. Everything had a hoodie on. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.240 We out there talking. We got dudes on rooftops and everything. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.280 And we had some ussos up at the top. Because 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.559 our projects that we grew with a lot of oosos, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.280 Like we didn't have a lot of Latinos. They grew 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.400 up kind of like in the Mission district, like on 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.120 twenty fourth or that. They really hanging out with us 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.240 until later on like currently now once the music pop 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.600 we started, you know kind of like intermingling or whatever 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.160 with the Latinos. But for the most part, it was 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.120 a lot of some morns in our projects. We grew 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.240 up with them like heavy out here in the city. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.760 So they was watching and top and all that he 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.199 had like folk cars snuck around the corna on us, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.440 and I looked right into it when I heard the screech, 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.520 and I turned around and I got hit by a 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.800 half of building away. You know, they uh twelve gauges 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.719 and started shooting. My whole face got hit. I got 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.520 shot like kind of I said, like probably maybe about 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.439 fifty feet away, fifty to sixty feet away, but with 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:38.600 some buck shots. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:39.840 You know what I mean. He had no slugs in 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:40.600 it and nothing like that. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.800 It was just some buck shots and I still got 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.520 them in my all in my head and my face. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.560 Today to this day. Wow, you know what I mean. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:48.800 But yeah, it was a. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.280 Few people got shot out there, but I was pretty 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.679 much the first one. As soon as I got hit, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.320 I instantly went blind, you know, my whole side. And 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.080 they brushed me to the hospital and had to remove 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.200 my eye and the whole nine because it was like 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.400 my retina was bad. And the doctor was just like, yeah, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.080 we gotta get it all up out of that leg. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.920 Gonna contaminate you know, his his retina and it's gonna 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.280 add the other one's gonna go blind. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:13.280 So they had to remove it instantly. So yeah, you know, 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.120 it's crazy. It's the same thing down here. He can 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.800 test to this. It's always a girl. That's the root 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.320 of all the bs, ain't it. Yeah, I don't know what. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.480 Always a female bro. Always the female at the root 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.920 of some bullshit dog like I'm talking about from the 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.520 beginning of the time when you talk about like even 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.880 back in the biblical days, it was always behind a 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.040 female dog man always. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.960 You know, I wouldn't say that. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:52.520 All. You know, all beef stem from female interaction, uh some, 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.160 but you know a lot of it comes from just 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:04.720 just downright, you know, just jealousy. Sometimes business, you know, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.640 trying to go into business, whether that is the street 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:13.040 game you know, or whether it's uh real ship. Sometimes 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:17.600 business and money uh can allow motherfucking beefs. And then 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.680 when you're dealing with money on the street thing or 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:27.840 even jealousy, jealousy to show reputation is a lot to 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.840 some niggas. You know, sometimes if your reputation is more 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.400 than what a nigga might seek to be in the 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.640 same you know section as you claim the same set 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.240 or whatever. You know, you would hope that it don't 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:48.160 lead to that. But sometimes jealousy, man, can can have 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:54.320 you know, the neighborhood in a different outlook. Yeah, just 0:12:54.320 --> 0:13:02.160 the longstanding a different motherfucking uh, just a long standing 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.600 beef sometimes is what really brought the motherfucking drama to 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.800 the situation. Not to say that some females don't play 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.680 a part, because you know, some females have you know, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:18.200 uh kids, fathers from different sets and shit like that. No, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.960 you know how you know, you know our women, you know, uh, 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.280 you know back in you know, back when we used 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.920 to roam the hood. You know, it was you know, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.920 get what you're gonna get, and get like whatever, and 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.160 you know, whatever nigga that was going, you know, step 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.640 up to the plate, whether he was from the enemy 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.880 hood or whether he was a nigga that was from 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:39.679 your own hood. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:40.480 You feel me. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.800 So you know that you deal with that ship in 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.520 any situation right now, as far as not even just 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:49.600 the hood is concerned. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:50.959 Yeah, that's how my. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.800 Hood, that's from my neighborhood, My projects fell apart. You know, 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.000 when mississ C got killed, you know, you know, and 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.640 first it was Hunter's point against fieldmore sunny there. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.440 Once truths came, then it started being inner turf beefs. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.240 You know, it's like the jealousy we now we got 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.040 that rap thing, you know, I was already considered a 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.840 reptiboy or whatever you want to call it up here 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.120 in my neighborhood in Missis c was new. He had 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.800 only had been up there three years, and his reputation 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.800 shot up because of the rat. So he shot past 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.680 a lot of dudes. Females come through. They coming through 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.160 looking for you know, me and mister C. They looking 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.240 for RBS. So a lot of dudes was getting jealous 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.840 because he didn't really have to quote unquote put in 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.480 no work over there, you know what I mean. He 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.840 got came through through the rap thing through one of 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:37.160 our homies who was dating his and his status just elevated, 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.680 and it just was jealousy, you know what I mean. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.600 And it cost inner. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.720 Turf beef and one thing with another word. You know, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.160 he ended up getting killed. You know, say the dudes 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.160 who was on our first aloho, you know what. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.120 I'm saying, Just because you grew up with TT around 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.160 the corner and y'all flirted and all that nigga TT want, 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.000 the TT want the name and the nigga with the 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:04.400 bas nigga. You feel me, you get me, nigga. Yeah, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.960 we all from the hood and everything is all good. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.880 She the bad bitch, but she still nowhere to choose 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.680 and ship and like you said some time, that jealousy 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.600 is too overwhelming for a motherfucker to accept. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:16.920 Real talk. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.560 Yeah really, And you know one of the things is, man, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.680 y'all came up during a period where it wasn't a 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.800 whole bunch of rappers. It wasn't like it today, man, 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.680 So y'all was really like pioneers in the city. And 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.240 y'all was a really big deal man, because y'allways signed 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:33.000 in a minute. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.720 Right yeah, we uh well, we was out the trunk 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:36.360 for a minute. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.360 Was a short minute. Then we ended up doing a 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.040 deal with in a minute. First they distributed our stuff 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:46.640 through the music people. That that was like they company, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.560 they one stop sort of, you know, they just did 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.320 a distribution and then we we sawd like maybe six 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.920 thousand units to them, and that's when they ended up 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:54.960 signing us to. 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.240 Like a little three year deal. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.320 And I was just really trying to hit the block, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.600 So we signed a little shitty deal for three three albums. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.440 He paid us bought out cash me out for what 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.240 he owed me for the five thousand units, and he 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.600 ended up giving us like ten thousand. We signed for 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.320 like ten thousand. I was trying to do, is hit 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.480 the block and go grab some dub. I didn't even 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.480 I didn't even care about that deal. I was just like, shit, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.600 it's more of that where that came from. So, yeah, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.760 we signed with in a minute, and that later on 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:21.800 we transitioned over the Big Beat Atlantic. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:22.800 You know what I mean? 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.480 Look, y'all must have sold some significant records though to 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.160 get picked up by Big Beat Atlantic, because back then 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.320 they wouldn't you know, I ain't. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.400 Say, Oh, Craig count and gonna snatch a nigga up 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:41.400 came to see. That's personally. Yeah, before he even went 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.000 to Atlantic and got that deal, I had a Big Bat. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.160 I had a production deal with Big Beat. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.920 Okay, yeah, this before he even went to Atlantic Records, 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.200 he was still running Big Beat. We gave Mike Caring 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.320 the job up over there, like really kind of running 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:57.720 it and smart. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.320 He was when I started fucking with and he was 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:06.800 he was Atlantic. He was. Yeah, he had transitioned to 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.920 the big seat over at Atlantic. Yeah, he wasn't there, 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.280 but no more than about like maybe four five months 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.160 after he signed us, and we was over there dealing 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.080 with him for a minute he was excited, and then 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.399 all of a sudden he was just like, man, I'm 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.080 gonna put you on good hands. This is why he 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.080 introduced this to Mike cann and I already knew it 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.000 was ugly from there because Mike Camra was more East 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.359 Coast he didn't really hear about West Coast rap like that. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.200 And I just felt his energy when I was hanging 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.359 out with him for about a month and I was 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.200 just like, man, he ain't giving me the same energy 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:36.840 as Craig can. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.879 Craig knew exactly why he scientists. He knew I was 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.199 doing all the beats, all the music and everything. That's 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.160 why you stay. After we lost mississt was like, bro, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.400 I know you the one doing all the music. Pull 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.520 hit Man in to kind of like, you know, feel 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.200 the gap for Miss c and you know you just 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.320 keep doing a production and let's just keep this going. 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.800 We're gonna just re you know, reconstruct the deal and 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.720 adjusted a little bit because we lost Mississi's I'm still 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.600 taking the risk, he said, but let's do it. As 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.439 soon as we did it, he was coming within like 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.679 four five months. He was like, man, they pulled me 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.879 in the Atlantic, but I'm still oversee it. I'm like, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.640 you know, I'm president over there or whatever. And sure 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.080 enough they end up cutting it. Man, they end up, Uh, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.320 Mike Cairn ended up kind of. I don't know, it 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.679 just didn't work. We start bumping heads. It just wouldn't 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.359 work out. He was trying to send us over the 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.280 East Coast Producers and the whole nine, and we're just. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:27.800 Like, bro, this thing, what we want? This thing? 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.440 What we this sing? What we do? You know, I produce? 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:32.919 And he was like, now we're gonna spend this budget 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:34.560 over here. He trying to get me to, you know, 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.240 to work my budget. I'm like, man, I'm trying to 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:37.320 keep this money in the house. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.000 With Mike heern he always with everybody he deal with. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.840 He can't never just be the label. He got to 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.640 pull you in and try to make you spend your 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.560 budget with some producers. I guarantee you the producers get 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.640 to work with with some chances signed to him. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.280 That's probably because you know, I can get a kickback 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.199 from that or some kind of way. I got a 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:04.680 back door for production deal. If I got a backdoor 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:09.800 production deal, then I can guarantee work for niggas that 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:14.199 I'm going out you know under my production umbrother you 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:18.399 know exactly that's basically some mouthpiece ship. You know, I 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.240 can't turn on a drum machine or make a beat, 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.000 but I know a lot of cats that's under the 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:29.119 radar who produce. And you know, I can tell a nigga, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.359 I can get you five hundred for a beat, and 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.920 in the end, nigga, I can really get five thousand. 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:35.679 Exactly that. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.840 When niggas, you know, when niggas want to come in 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.960 and take control over your motherfucking production budget, you know, 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:52.040 especially if you are known to be the producer yourself 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:56.800 saying it was the same shiit, same situation, Yeah, same situation, Uh. 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:58.920 To get us to that big table and like, yeah, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.159 this is what we're gonna do. Hold on, man, he 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.760 signed treacherous time. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.240 You know, West Coast artists and and y'all probably was 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.880 going through the same motherfucking uh you know, uh tornado 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.560 that everybody got caught up in. But you know, this 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.680 was the transition of when motherfuckers was trying to push 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.959