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Speaker 1: Gangst the Chronic Goals. This is not your average show.

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Speaker 2: Big Steal with another episode Against the Chronicles along with

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Speaker 2: my co hosts Jip my partner, what's cracking? What you ate?

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Speaker 1: Ship? Everything all good? You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah that that that flu adds you down?

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Speaker 2: Amnue to go, didn't it a little bit?

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Speaker 1: And ship?

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Speaker 3: But you know, really, I just you know, take the

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Speaker 3: time to try to focus on you know, the new year,

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Speaker 3: what's been going on. You know, new president, new rules,

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Speaker 3: new laws, you know, same nigga, same bullshit.

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Speaker 1: So you know what it is, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Man. With that being said, we were talking earlier today man,

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Speaker 2: and we still did. Our focus for twenty and twenty

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Speaker 2: five is having more legendary figures from the coast on

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Speaker 2: you know, right, those unheroed you know, underground legends man,

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Speaker 2: the underground heroes Man, the dude that you know don't

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Speaker 2: have our trunk rattling, you know, from the nineties on

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Speaker 2: up to the two thousands. Man. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: think this is as good as start as any we

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Speaker 2: got on the black Steed from RBL Poskin the Building Night,

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Speaker 2: Black Sea. What's happening with you?

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Speaker 1: Man? What's up with y'all? Man?

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Speaker 2: Man shoot Man? Good looking on coming through Man. You

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Speaker 2: definitely man, one of those unsung ghetto heroes. Man.

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Speaker 4: Man, appreciate that. Appreciate that. Man appreciate it. So that's

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Speaker 4: another legends man. You know, Yes, indeed, yes, indeed we appreciate.

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Speaker 4: Try to stay focused and grounded man. You know, uh,

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Speaker 4: not to say that you know niggas Nigga's heritage and

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Speaker 4: foundation ain't important, but you know, sometimes you know, when

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Speaker 4: you play the position that some of us artists play,

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Speaker 4: you know, as far as uh being compared to you know,

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Speaker 4: positions on the hip.

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Speaker 1: Hop map, Uh.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes we play a back seat. So trying to focus

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Speaker 3: on a lot of those artists who don't you know,

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Speaker 3: really get you know, invited or you know, invitations or

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Speaker 3: brought to the table on certain ship.

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Speaker 2: It's real, dope, yes, real, that's real. I was looking

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Speaker 2: at I was reading the book right and I was

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Speaker 2: talking to you earlier. I did not realize San Francisco

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Speaker 2: head was up there banging like you was.

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Speaker 1: Except I don't call it.

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Speaker 2: Ain't like la y'all call the turf wars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was more of a turf thing.

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Speaker 4: We represent projects. A lot of people didn't know, like

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Speaker 4: San Francisco. They looked at it like a tourist town.

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Speaker 4: But we got Hella projects up up in there, you know,

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Speaker 4: from phil Mo to Sunnydale in fild Mo is Hella

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Speaker 4: projects in Hunter's Point where I'm from, Hella projects. I

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Speaker 4: mean real concrete jungles, you know, like semen slabs, like

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Speaker 4: a bunch of them. So you will get it twisted

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Speaker 4: and think it's just like Pier thirty nine and like

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Speaker 4: the gay area. You know they EBT community over in

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Speaker 4: Castro and then you know, but it's a darker side

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was one of the most dumb I

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Speaker 2: guess it was one of the most relatious periods up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you was what would you say, man, was

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Speaker 1: They tried to take his car at this party.

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Speaker 4: And from there, you know, it started with like fights,

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Speaker 4: Once you get hit once, once a person gets shot.

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Speaker 4: It was the back and forth. And I said all

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Speaker 4: stemmed from really everybody started getting guns when the crack hit.

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Speaker 1: We all started selling.

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Speaker 4: And when they would have just you know, dolphins coming through,

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Speaker 4: buying the pistols and all that, and all of a

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Speaker 3: To sound like the same type of.

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Speaker 3: And it was, uh, you know, it was an era

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Speaker 3: where we came up on guns. You know, the riots

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Speaker 3: or whatever. Niggas was breaking in the gun stores, surplus stores,

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Speaker 3: a point in time, just like a point in history

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Speaker 3: where it's a significant event, certain situations and ship and

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Speaker 3: that did it for a lot of us, you know,

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Speaker 3: around that Colors era, you know, the Rodney King ship.

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Speaker 3: It was always but you know, not to misguide motherfuckers. Uh,

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Speaker 3: it's always been a fluctuation of inner city problems within

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Speaker 3: was just that where niggas was trying to grow up

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Speaker 3: in the neighborhoods and protect the sections. But still just

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Speaker 3: eventually that's what it turned into. You know, we wasn't

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Speaker 3: turn turned nigga switch blades, turning the motherfucking deuce deuces

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Speaker 3: and shot them. You know, we gotta we got our

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Speaker 3: hand on the motherfucking said the war guns and ship.

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Speaker 3: You know, some niggas thought they was Billy the kid

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Speaker 4: Real talk, you said, switch blades and then that's what

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Speaker 4: my old g's that's what they was doing that.

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Speaker 1: The the worst was like a.

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Speaker 3: Nightca niggas went for Niggas went for motherfucking fingers, fingers

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Speaker 3: snapping and whipping out, change and backs, and niggas got

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Speaker 3: to switch blade niggas like oh ship. One of the

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Speaker 3: confrontations with niggas was like, okay, niggas switch blades and fish.

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Speaker 3: Some nigga pulled off the dou stows. It was like,

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Speaker 3: oh sh real talk. That's when you knew, nigga that

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Speaker 3: the the motherfucking territory is is finna be known and

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Speaker 3: ship because you don't motherfucking wanting to beat niggas asses

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Speaker 3: to want to blast on niggas.

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Speaker 1: The one that's serious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, real talk, real talk, like we didn't have like

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Speaker 4: it just it just kind of automatically turned into something

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Speaker 1: Now we representing hr D, you know, slash right.

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Speaker 4: So it just just became that. We never really said

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Speaker 2: So well, you know what, it's the same thing. And

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Speaker 2: the late to I think people got it like kind

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Speaker 2: the colors. The first thing they think about us the colors, right,

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Speaker 2: what really is just about the neighborhood. It's the same

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It sounded like it's the

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Speaker 2: same thing. One of the things that tripped me out, man,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if I was a little bit closer when they

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Speaker 4: did the drive by the dudes from Sunnydale, you know,

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Speaker 4: and that day we had jumped them on Third Street.

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Speaker 1: We jumped them that day and you.

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Speaker 4: Know, everybody get the congregate and go back up to

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Speaker 4: We out there talking. We got dudes on rooftops and everything.

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Speaker 4: And we had some ussos up at the top. Because

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Speaker 4: Like we didn't have a lot of Latinos. They grew

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Speaker 4: So they was watching and top and all that he

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Speaker 4: had like folk cars snuck around the corna on us,

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Speaker 4: and I looked right into it when I heard the screech,

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Speaker 4: half of building away. You know, they uh twelve gauges

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Speaker 4: shot like kind of I said, like probably maybe about

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Speaker 4: fifty feet away, fifty to sixty feet away, but with

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Speaker 4: some buck shots.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He had no slugs in

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Speaker 1: it and nothing like that.

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Speaker 4: It was just some buck shots and I still got

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Speaker 4: them in my all in my head and my face.

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Speaker 1: Today to this day. Wow, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a.

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Speaker 4: Few people got shot out there, but I was pretty

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Speaker 4: much the first one. As soon as I got hit,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how my.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like the jealousy we now we got

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Speaker 1: And it cost inner.

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Speaker 4: Turf beef and one thing with another word. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Just because you grew up with TT around

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Speaker 1: Real talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah really, And you know one of the things is, man,

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Speaker 2: So y'all was really like pioneers in the city. And

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Speaker 1: Right yeah, we uh well, we was out the trunk

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Speaker 4: Was a short minute. Then we ended up doing a

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Speaker 4: they one stop sort of, you know, they just did

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Speaker 1: Like a little three year deal.

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Speaker 4: And I was just really trying to hit the block,

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Speaker 4: So we signed a little shitty deal for three three albums.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even care about that deal. I was just like, shit,

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Speaker 4: it's more of that where that came from. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we signed with in a minute, and that later on

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Look, y'all must have sold some significant records though to

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Speaker 1: Say, Oh, Craig count and gonna snatch a nigga up

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Speaker 1: came to see. That's personally. Yeah, before he even went

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, this before he even went to Atlantic Records,

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Speaker 3: He was when I started fucking with and he was

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Speaker 3: he was Atlantic. He was. Yeah, he had transitioned to

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Speaker 3: but no more than about like maybe four five months

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden he was just like, man, I'm

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Speaker 3: was ugly from there because Mike Camra was more East

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Speaker 3: And I just felt his energy when I was hanging

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Speaker 4: Craig knew exactly why he scientists. He knew I was

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Speaker 4: why you stay. After we lost mississt was like, bro,

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Speaker 4: I know you the one doing all the music. Pull

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Speaker 4: the gap for Miss c and you know you just

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Speaker 4: keep doing a production and let's just keep this going.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna just re you know, reconstruct the deal and

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Speaker 4: taking the risk, he said, but let's do it. As

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Speaker 4: Mike Cairn ended up kind of. I don't know, it

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Speaker 4: just didn't work. We start bumping heads. It just wouldn't

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Speaker 4: East Coast Producers and the whole nine, and we're just.

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Speaker 1: Like, bro, this thing, what we want? This thing?

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Speaker 4: What we this sing? What we do? You know, I produce?

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Speaker 4: And he was like, now we're gonna spend this budget

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Speaker 2: With Mike heern he always with everybody he deal with.

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Speaker 2: He can't never just be the label. He got to

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Speaker 3: That's probably because you know, I can get a kickback

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Speaker 3: I'm going out you know under my production umbrother you

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Speaker 3: know exactly that's basically some mouthpiece ship. You know, I

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Speaker 3: but I know a lot of cats that's under the

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Speaker 1: Exactly that.

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Speaker 3: When niggas, you know, when niggas want to come in

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Speaker 3: especially if you are known to be the producer yourself

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Speaker 3: saying it was the same shiit, same situation, Yeah, same situation, Uh.

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Speaker 1: To get us to that big table and like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. Hold on, man, he

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Speaker 3: You know, West Coast artists and and y'all probably was

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Speaker 3: as with Tupac's death and and that was going on

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Speaker 3: as far as you know, at one point in time,

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Speaker 3: we all was beefing with somebody.

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Speaker 1: And I.

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Speaker 3: Don't relate that to the music business. It's just unfortunate

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Speaker 3: our professions. It carried over into our professions. You get me,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, like you do that bad thing,

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Speaker 3: dues and you reform, but then it's still motherfuckers who

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Speaker 3: you still get it. And that's what happened what a

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Speaker 3: as far as the programs and activities like you know,

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Speaker 3: that where you can influence. Back then, growing up in

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Speaker 3: you right. You know I did not I did not

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Speaker 3: a school teacher. I'm a nigga exactly. Schools teachers were

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Speaker 3: was my age down the street saying grade he got

433
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 3: the newest motherfucking el Camino or fucking blazer in every

434
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: bitch in high school is on his dick, and and

435
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: I'm that's who I longed to be.

436
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: You get me. So that was the neighborhood you got

437
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: down the block.

438
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 3: You didn't get that out no book or going to

439
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 3: no no training or joining no football program or whatever.

440
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: You got that from the block. So our opportunity, which

441
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: presented when hip hop came along, that was our football,

442
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: that was our baseball, our after.

443
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: School or nigga go to school. I'm shit.

444
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 3: And then now it's so easy for me because now

445
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: I ain't got to take no motherfucking physics testa, no algebra.

446
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: All I gotta do is write some shit about what's

447
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: going on on my motherfucking block and how my fucking.

448
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: Great is that?

449
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 3: But that trend but as we're still growing into our

450
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: our adulthood. Me as an adolescent nigga eighteen nineteen, nigga,

451
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck. I was signing Sony Music and

452
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: still going to the neighborhood every day.

453
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: Exactly, I couldn't get that check, the goin to go

454
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: buy a bird or too.

455
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: So because of because of that life that I had

456
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 3: led before rap came along. And now I'm this rapper

457
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: and I got me some videos and and I done

458
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: been on MTV and had a couple of shows. I'm

459
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 3: supposed to be looked at as you know, you're an

460
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: artist entertainer now. But to me and the niggas, I

461
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: went to school with them, niggas going that niggas steal

462
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: from the set and still enemies and whatever whatever. So

463
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: the labels, you know, that carried over with us as

464
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: fucking artists. So thus far, that's when the labels got

465
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: scared because our previous lifestyle was flooding over into the

466
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: so called entertainment world. Now you get me niggas coming

467
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: up here and motherfucking sets and hoods and that nigga

468
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 3: had a gun on him, and I heard that Nigga

469
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: had a warrant and the niggas was fighting in the

470
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: lobby and.

471
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: Shit, like, what the fuck is going on? So it's

472
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: scared niggas.

473
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: So y'all got caught up in that Atlantic ship, like, oh,

474
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to touch that ship no more.

475
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what it was?

476
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: I want.

477
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: Them they start doing It's just like they did me.

478
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: They started going, oh, we want to bring in producers.

479
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: They wanted to change the style and your right. They

480
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 3: no longer wanted you to speak on being from the projects.

481
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: Now they want you to talk about having this lavish

482
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: lifestyle and popping bottles and everything's a party. So let's

483
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: bring in these East Coast producers and let's try to

484
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: wook it. They did the same thing to me, and

485
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: I had backed out the deal.

486
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: Who was they trying to link you up with? Blake

487
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: se Who were they trying to link you all up with?

488
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: He said it was unknown.

489
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: I think they were just some producers that Mike Caaren

490
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: kind of knew because he was saying, like this producers

491
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: produced for like he was bringing up son as some

492
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 4: of the dudes in Wu tang Uh he produced, He

493
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 4: produced for Red Man in Them, and he did some

494
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 4: stuff for Keith Murty. It was just like producers who

495
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: I never heard of him, Like, none of them, you

496
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: know what I mean, they don't even sound like it

497
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: wasn't our sound he was. I mean, I had a

498
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: bunch of because back then it was a lot. They

499
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 4: was giving us a lot of cassette tapes. I mean,

500
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: I still got that get you get you a producer,

501
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: get your producer role. They see your beat tape, little produced.

502
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: It was all like I said, it was all a

503
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: little underground up and coming producers. Who was bringing New

504
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: York uh glitsy sound.

505
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Ye yeah yeah, the job.

506
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: Rule, the Timberland uh all all those was that's what

507
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 3: because that's what they hit me with.

508
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: They hit me with a gang of ship like that.

509
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: And it I had beat, I had lt huttingsoning in beats,

510
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 3: I had all kinds of niggas sitting they every time

511
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: I had get a beat, they would not accept it.

512
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: To the fact that I had how to the fact

513
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: that I was like, I'm gonna sue, Yeah, that's got it.

514
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: I threatened to sue. And so they settled out of

515
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: court with me, and that was the end of mind.

516
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: I had a nine album production deal with Big Beat

517
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: Atlantic Man, they ran it up on me.

518
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: I had, I had uh had a five album deal,

519
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: three mandatory and two optionals.

520
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: We only did one album and then.

521
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 4: Mike Canry just couldn't After I dropped that if one

522
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 4: Eye album, I had eight on every like, I went

523
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 4: out and start getting features people who are really wanted

524
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: him Richie rich you know I do t Q and them.

525
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: I ended up getting a mystical. I got a lot

526
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: of people, which usually on our hours we just it

527
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: be us like we don't really trip on features like that.

528
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: We're just like, man, our fans want to hear us,

529
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna hear they was they talked justus and they're like, man,

530
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 4: who do you like? And I was like, you know,

531
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: I like a man, I like Cube, I like, you know,

532
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: I'm naming everybody who I kind of like, you know,

533
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 4: I got influenced by. And they was like, okay, we're

534
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 4: gonna try to reach out. And I had to put

535
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: mentioned Scarface was supposed to be on there. Short was

536
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: supposed to be on there. We ended up getting with

537
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: a couple of people and the singles just wasn't they

538
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 4: was They tried to do this ship to where he

539
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: was trying to do remixes and like, let's just go on,

540
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 4: and he put us pulled our masterpiece stuff, and I

541
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 4: was like, let's listen with master p doing like to

542
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: make him say and like come with something with a

543
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: nice little swing of linger.

544
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, that ain't what we known folks. I'm like, man,

545
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Mike cam or.

546
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: Mike uh as far as what said create, Cadam has

547
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: signed us for what we've known for doing.

548
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: Man, I said, you know this ain't me.

549
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: And we just bumped here through that whole process, through

550
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: the promo process, and by the time we started on

551
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: the next album, he was like, man, look before I

552
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: hadn't opened up the budget. I need y'all to give

553
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: me a single. And I was like, I don't even

554
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: work like that. I work on an album. Then I

555
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: pulled a single from it. I said, let's just start

556
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: open up the budget. Let me start on. He's like, nah,

557
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: I'm notin't even gonna open it up. I want you

558
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: to give me a single first, and he said, what

559
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: you think of it? Take you to produce a single?

560
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: I said, you know, man, we'll just shoot me around

561
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: ten thousand. He shot us ten thousand. I did two songs.

562
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: He shot them down. I was like, now I put it.

563
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 4: I tried to do one with a little R and

564
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: B feel on it and on. I said, let me

565
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: do one a little bit more radio friendly. He didn't

566
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: like that. I said, all right, let me give him

567
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: something a little more grind me. He didn't like that.

568
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: So I ended up going to my lawyer like, man, look,

569
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: this is not even gonna work. He don't want to

570
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: open up the budget. He said it was two mandatories.

571
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: I mean three mandatories. Well, you know, if they don't

572
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 4: want to put out this next album, they got to

573
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: kick you down, like three seventy five three seventy five

574
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: thousand to buy you out, and then we can just

575
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: cut the deal.

576
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: You know, they can just let you go.

577
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: They ended up shoffing me, And what they did was

578
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: they stretched it on for like a year or two

579
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: and tried to shelf me. But I'm like, man, I'm

580
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: from the Bay. When we went into this independent shit,

581
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: I went pressed. I started doing shit, you know, independent,

582
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 4: throwing stuff out, you know, the back dough on them.

583
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: And I didn't care about it. I said, man, they

584
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: sued me. They sued me whatever.

585
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: I was using an RBL name, and I put out

586
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: like three other albums while I was trying to go

587
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 4: through the shit with U with my lawyer. They ran

588
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: that lawyer bill up to like one hundred and seventy

589
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: five thousand on me man.

590
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: So he was like, bro, it ain't even work by

591
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: the time you get this money.

592
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: If we even get it, you know you're gonna owe

593
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: me so much that he said, Man, You'm always just

594
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: going to just do what you're doing with City Hard Records.

595
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: You know, you don't put out a couple of albums

596
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: with them. Walter had paid me like he gave me.

597
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: He was giving me like fifty thousand album Then Bayside

598
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: opened up, and that's when I was just off to

599
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: the racist Bayside opened up a Budzet's giving me like

600
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand albums. So it was off to the

601
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 4: races with them, and I just I never even really

602
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: even talked to my kidd.

603
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: You was making more money as an independent and what

604
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: you wanted to do versus dealing with them clowns, and

605
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: you know, one of the things that want to go

606
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: back to your group. Man. The RBL policy. You are

607
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: the last surviving member, Yes, sir, how did you handle

608
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: let time period mentally? Because that's a whole lot.

609
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: Bro Man, it was a you know, we I lost

610
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: mis c man that you know. It just that shit

611
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: crushed me out. You know, I really was damn there

612
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: wasn't even trying. And if Craig wouldn't even come and

613
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 4: talk to me, I probably wouldn't even got back in there.

614
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: You know.

615
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: I had my brother and all them kind of at me,

616
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: like Bruther, you got to keep the torch lit, you know,

617
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: all I was thinking, I was just on some evil shit.

618
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: I just wanted to go tear the hood up because

619
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: these dudes I grew up with for like, you know,

620
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 4: I've been knowing them since knee high, you know, the

621
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: dudes that betrayed me. I grew up with them in

622
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 4: the projects. I knew them like over twenty years, and

623
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: I missed the c He was new up there. I

624
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: only had new him since ninety one and then he

625
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: died at night, so it's about like four years I

626
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: had new him, so you know, four to maybe five years.

627
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: So it was just it was just a betrayal, man,

628
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: the way they kind of like snaked.

629
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: Me, and all I wanted to do, man, was just

630
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: tear that neighborhood up.

631
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: You know, when my brother and all them.

632
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: They were just like, brother, you got way too much

633
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: to lose, like this is still an opportunity to get out.

634
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: Craig came out and talked to me, and that just

635
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: kind of woke me up, you know what I mean.

636
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: And it just wasn't the same.

637
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: I ended up not even producing too much even I

638
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: think I maybe did three songs on that album, and

639
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: I ended up going to Get with Rick Rock, and

640
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: Rick Rock was kind of like the savior, you know,

641
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: to get because Mike, like I said, Mike cam was

642
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: sending me all over the place. I got with Mike

643
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: Mosley like Mosley got me with uh with Rick Rock,

644
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: and Rick Rock kind of walked that album up for me, you.

645
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

646
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: And it was like his start, you know, we was

647
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: like his start.

648
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: You know, I love what he doing right now.

649
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: But he kicked it off for us and gave us

650
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: some hits on that album to where Rick Rock, yeah,

651
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: shut out Rick Rock though, but yeah, man, it was hard.

652
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: Though.

653
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: It was that whole year, that that whole ninety six,

654
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 4: It was ugly for us, you know what I mean.

655
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: It was a lot of people, you know, at the

656
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: MISSISSIPI died. Man, it was like probably like twenty people

657
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: that died after that. You know, it was just a

658
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: lot of shit going on, just back and forth, houses

659
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: getting ready, you know, fans coming to Miuse with my

660
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: brother and all of them getting swooped up by the Feds,

661
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: and you know, I mean just everything.

662
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Man.

663
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: We was going through a lot, man, trying to make

664
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: that transition. And I was in the process of buying

665
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: my house. Was I put out the hit Man album

666
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: in ninety five, like right before Misiss C died, I

667
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: dropped Hitman album and we sold that out.

668
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: We sold like about two hundred and twenty thousand after

669
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: the Trunk with that one.

670
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: You know, I was going getting cod ten dollars of

671
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: CD from City Hall, eating off.

672
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Of that, and I ended up buying my house.

673
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: And right before I got my keys, they ended up

674
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: killing Misiss looking that transition, you know what I mean,

675
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 4: in Antioch, so getting up out the hood.

676
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: So it was just a lot going on at that time.

677
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: So the whole ninety six we kind of like lay

678
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: low trying to figure things out.

679
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Mid ninety seven. You know, that's when we ended up

680
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: dropping the IFO an Eye album, you.

681
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Know, and master P was up there during that time

682
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: period he was doing he.

683
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Was he had left about yeah, he had.

684
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: He was all up there, like from ninety ninety one

685
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: through like maybe ninety four. Master he end up he

686
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: ended up going to the South by THEND, he ended

687
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: up going down there and start killing him in the

688
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: South because by the.

689
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: Time, it surprised you when you saw what he did.

690
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, because nobody really cared for P up here. There

691
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: was just like he was kind of like taking people's styles.

692
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: He was trying to sound like Spice One, and he

693
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: was trying to sound like ce Bow. He was taking

694
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: people songs and kind of like they was looking at

695
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: him sort of almost like a weird al yank a

696
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: Vica rap.

697
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: Like out here he was like flipping dudes hooks like

698
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: he took the lot, you know.

699
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: But I had love for Pete because he you know,

700
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: even when he tried to sign us too, and then

701
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: once he went in and got his money, he was like, man,

702
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: forget Atlantic, you.

703
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: Know, you need to come rock with us, and you know,

704
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: come down here and deal with me.

705
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: Black and I was just like I just couldn't do it,

706
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: And plus I just kind of wanted that experience we're

707
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: dealing with like you know, big beat Atlantic, because we

708
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: had relativity at US, we had depth jam at US priority,

709
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: but none of them was offering with uh with Craig

710
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 4: Calluman was offering us.

711
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: So you know, we ended up going with them.

712
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was a it was a it was

713
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: a master people was like doing this thing.

714
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: He was a big We all was surprised.

715
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: Nobody expecting him to leave and blow up like that

716
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 4: because nobody really cared for him like that out here.

717
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: Nobody and everybody admitted it was like, damn, we didn't

718
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: expect master P. Like they looked at the Master P

719
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 4: as a garbage rapper out here. They didn't really fuck

720
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: with him like that.

721
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: But he was a limless hustle though.

722
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: That's what I said. He was a business man when

723
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: he came to the to get us. You know, he

724
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: broke us off here black he go five thousand, you know,

725
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: he came and got us for the second one. Uh,

726
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: Mississ didn't really want to get on it. He didn't

727
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: really like you know, he just was like, man, garbage.

728
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 4: I don't even want to be on this compilation man,

729
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 4: And uh, he ended up getting us on trying to

730
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: make a dollar out of fifteen cent and uh, like

731
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: I said, he broke us off like five thousand for that.

732
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: Then he came back the second time.

733
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: I did a song with Laviti and them on the

734
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: second one, and he gave us like seven thousand for that,

735
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

736
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: And he let me release it as a singer.

737
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 4: The song actually did good in Canada and everywhere we

738
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: would release it as a single over there. Master P

739
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: helped me with that. He gave me clearance and everything,

740
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: like he was cool man. You know, I ain't really

741
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: got no complaints about Pete. You know he handed his ben.

742
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 4: He was like, you can't do them, but pe respect.

743
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you can't do them, but

744
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: respect this hussle man. When what he did it? What

745
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: was the record that made everybody go crazy? I already

746
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: know what it is, But what was the record that

747
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: Don't give no Bama weed Bama weed?

748
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Nigga? Man? That was the one that put us on

749
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: the map.

750
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 4: Even when we had the demo because it was first

751
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 4: called Don't give Me No Bamba Joint, we don't smoke

752
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: that ship and Hunter's point.

753
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: This was before mster C was on it. It was

754
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: pretty much I was working on a solo.

755
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: Album and I had don't give Me No bamor joint

756
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: and uh, one of my boys who was from Filmo

757
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: who stayed in our projects, Uh, he was just like

758
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 4: my boy Lioney Green used.

759
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: To strug with this strutting crew called Demons of the Mind.

760
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 4: He was like, bro, you need to switch it up

761
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: and bring the whole city, get the whole city involved.

762
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: And he was like, right now, you're just gonna kind

763
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: of like segregate yourself and you're gonna you don't want

764
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 4: to just be kind of like just only having Hunter's

765
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: points playing the song.

766
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: And I'm glad I ended up listening to him and

767
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: I ended up switching it.

768
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: No Bamba Weed, we don't smoke it in the sf

769
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: C and THEGA, the whole city got behind it.

770
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: That motherfucker took off like wildfire, like wildfire.

771
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: And later on a lesson to learned, you know what,

772
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: the old Sugar Hill Gang beat that took off. You know,

773
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: that was kind of like our second hit, you know,

774
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: but uh yeah, Bamaweed hands down, hands down. Yeah, it

775
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: was our number one hit to put us on the map.

776
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: That's crazy, man. So you got all this going on

777
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: during this time, Piod, You still need deep in the streets.

778
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for surely. Yeah.

779
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: I was going to get them checks and going back

780
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: straight back to the block and my brother the money

781
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 4: we going. We was going down there doing the break

782
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 4: me downs. We was down there. We was doing our thing,

783
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I wasn't even I wasn't

784
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: even taking music serious until I went on my first

785
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: couple of shows. Once I start seeing the world was

786
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 4: bigger than the neighborhood, I start going to Detroit, Detroit started,

787
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: we got getting booked at Pontiac Land, sing like Michigan,

788
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: like like fucked with It's heavy, And then we started

789
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 4: going to Kansas City, and then all of a sudden,

790
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 4: Seattle and Portland, and now all of the sudden we

791
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: start going down to Phoenix and all that. Then I

792
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: started it was like I was being I was gone

793
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: a lot, and them checks was coming in. We started

794
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: going from three thousand to show four thousand, seven thousand,

795
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: We start.

796
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Eating off that.

797
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: We was like from ninety two all the way to

798
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: ninety four, Like we weren't even thinking about a new

799
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: album because we was running around for like two years

800
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: off that album, really eating off of it, you know.

801
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: And then once we start going in to work on

802
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 4: that second album in ninety four, that's when we we

803
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: really zeroed in on working on Ruthless by Law, you

804
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: know none. And even then some shit happened. We got

805
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 4: called for some rape shit. Some young dudes is in

806
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 4: my studio, brought some little girls up in there side

807
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 4: of mids and you know, did all types of shit

808
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: to them, and they was using me and my brother name.

809
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: So we sat down for like eight months in the

810
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: county and se that kind of caused problem in my

811
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: neighborhood because the girls was like fourteen year old, fourteen

812
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 4: years old. The youngsters they was young too, but they

813
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: used our name and we was you know, eighteen nineteen

814
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: years old. So yeah, me and my brother we had

815
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 4: like sixty five council rape kid. Now side of me, yep,

816
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: side of me.

817
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: You never asked.

818
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: The girls didn't do it, you know what. It wasn't

819
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: a rate kit back then. I don't think.

820
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: And see us.

821
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: You know, my brother found him, you know, shot out

822
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: my brother, Toto man. He went out there, and uh

823
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: we lucked up man, By the grace of guys. She

824
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: ended up in a group home in Oakland. You know

825
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: this was like maybe, like, like I said, seven eight

826
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 4: months in she ended up at a group home in Oakland,

827
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: and it's just so happened to be one of my

828
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: friends from the neighborhood mom's house. And he was like, bro,

829
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: you know the girl that said that she was talking

830
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 4: to my mom and said that that RBO had raped

831
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 4: her and this and that, and yeah, she had my

832
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: mama house. She's in there for foster She there for

833
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 4: temporary like foster care or whatever until she could find

834
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: the placement.

835
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm like what You're like, Yeah, she was in there.

836
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 4: So I was like, man, then let's total to let

837
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: my brother come out there, man and holler at her

838
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 4: and let her know, you know, we ain't the ones

839
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 4: that did it and this and that, so he wouldn't

840
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: seen her, and she agreed to come see it them

841
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 4: and she came up there. She walked in the business room,

842
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: was like, now y'all, wasn't there, wasn't y'all And we

843
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: actually beggared, like, man, could you come to court? We

844
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 4: go to court tuesday. Can you come in talked to

845
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: her lord. She was like, yeah, hell, y'all come, it

846
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: wasn't y'all. She's like, it was some other dudes, some

847
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: younger dudes. She was like, you black Si. I'm like, man,

848
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: I'm black Sea. It's my brother Dre right here. Like

849
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: they She was like, nah, I wasn't young. And they

850
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: let us out they could use y'all names, said there

851
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: was y'all, you know, because it was all in the

852
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: name and it was my young homies. But they was

853
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: trying to trick, you know, they had I was written

854
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: from uh this Dolphine. I was wrinting the room out

855
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 4: where I kept my studio at so the youngster that

856
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: stayed there, his homies. They was coming in showing it

857
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: because I got all the posters on the wall and

858
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: all that, you know, a lot of rap memorabilia. So

859
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 4: they had brain girls up in there because we was

860
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: popping at the time, so a lot of females was

861
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: coming up to the neighborhood to try to come look forwards,

862
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: meet us or whatever, you know, because back then when

863
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 4: you came out with a cassette, you was like you

864
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: was a celebrity because it was like then it wasn't

865
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 4: as easy as it was now.

866
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: So people was coming up, riding through, they try to

867
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: come see us.

868
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: So yeah, they manipulated the girls into come seeing the

869
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: studio and they start turning off the lights and doing

870
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 4: all types of ship to him, and yeah, we got up,

871
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 4: got caught up.

872
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: You see how crazy it is, how easy it was

873
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: eight to just get caught up. They didn't even know

874
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: how these niggas looked. And if they didn't bring the

875
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: line up or nothing. They even put the girl in

876
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: the lineup to say.

877
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: These dudes that did it, they ain't give a fun

878
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: as long as it was niggas. Man, fuck it, she

879
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: was a miner, you know what I mean. I don't

880
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: care about none of that. Ain't no need of investigating.

881
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: That's them. That's it.

882
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Nigga ship.

883
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: Y'all the city. Uh, y'all didn't see the city? You said,

884
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, we didn't suit knock with.

885
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: What they did was they just dropped it to where

886
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: they had still had three years of foule. So they

887
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 4: did some weird ship to where because one of the

888
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: dudes that was that was one of our co defendants.

889
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: He was there, you know, So when they dropped it

890
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: on us. They had to drop it on him, you

891
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But I always had that ace

892
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: in the hole. I always told him because me and

893
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 4: him was like we was on the seventh floor together,

894
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 4: and I was like, Nigga, you already know, bro, before

895
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: this ship go too far. Nigga, you gonna have to

896
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: You're gonna tell on yourself. You're gonna let us. You're

897
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: gonna let the motherfuckers know that. I wasn't there and

898
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: he was in that scared of you, all right, bro,

899
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: you know I'll tell him. You know, he had his

900
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: mom and all them like, nah, you better keep your

901
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: mouth shut. You don't say shit. But I was in there, like, Nigga,

902
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: You're gonna let them motherfuckers know, Nigga that it was yeah,

903
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: you damn right.

904
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: Because he was the only older dude that was with him.

905
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 4: It was another rapper's name was Sugar Beer, who was

906
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: under in the neighborhood and.

907
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: He was of age.

908
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: He was like eighteen, and all the other ones it

909
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: was his brother and all them, they was all youngsters.

910
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: They was all like fifteen, sixteen years old, you know, seventeen.

911
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: Who I was part of it? So who all gang

912
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: raped a little too chicks.

913
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: So but uh yeah, nah, man, if we went in there,

914
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: if that she would have never landed at my brother

915
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: at my uh at my partner's house, man at his

916
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 4: mom house in Oakland.

917
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably still be gone.

918
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 4: That second album probably would have never seen a lot

919
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: of day for sure.

920
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: Working mysterious waves, bro.

921
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's separated the block and we got out. Man.

922
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: We whipped them nigga's asses that man.

923
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers told their ass up and that kind of split

924
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 4: the block up, and from there it just became a

925
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: little bit of the hell of shit started happening up.

926
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: You know.

927
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about your pops real quick, man,

928
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: because one of the stories I really liked with the

929
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: dynamic that your moms and your pop said, because your

930
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: moms understood the importance of keeping you know, even though

931
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: she wasn't messing with y'all pops no more, she understood

932
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: the importance that y'all have y'all father around y'all, And

933
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: it seemed like for the most part that worked out

934
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 2: for y'all.

935
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he was a real disciplinarian, like he come

936
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 4: through and kick her ass with this. Even though they

937
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 4: went together. She called, hey, you know, I need school

938
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 4: closer than I need this for them. He coming through.

939
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 4: You know when the little wire sorry little Ninjas came

940
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: out and I wanted one hella back. He always came through,

941
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: gave us money, took care of us always.

942
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: Even it was cool with my mom's boyfriend.

943
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: They come through, play dominoes, all the shit, and then

944
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 4: she got a problem. I'm in there fucking up. Like

945
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: when I first started selling dope. He called him up.

946
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: He coming through and put it down on us. You

947
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: know he was coming to Yeah, he made show. You know,

948
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: he was a real player. It's like seventeen of us,

949
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like even though he had

950
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: a bunch of kids, he made sure we all knew

951
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 4: each other. Like used to be like, come on, come

952
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: get in the car and to take you out here,

953
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: gonna visit y'all sisters, because I don't want y'all up

954
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: here in these projects fucking on your siblings and shit.

955
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: So he made show We knew all our brothers and sisters,

956
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 4: from the oldest.

957
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Down to the youngest. We all was close, tight knit.

958
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: And there was seventeen of us, and it was like

959
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: fire baby mamas, and we always close. We all knew

960
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 4: each other. You know, it's real tight. Posps was a

961
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 4: real player, real player. Everybody thought he was a pimp

962
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: because he was El Dorado, Diamond in the back, some

963
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: roof topped, the whole nine.

964
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: You know.

965
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 4: He dressed like a pimp, you know, all the little

966
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: snake skin shoes and you know, all the little suits

967
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: and everything.

968
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: But he was more like a player. You know.

969
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: He sold quarter te's and eight balls and shit. He

970
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 4: was making more like the dealing. The gambler. He kept

971
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: a bag of bits in the Cadillac, you know what

972
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: I mean. So he was more of a gambler. And

973
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 4: uh uh he sold like volumes and ship back then,

974
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 4: that's when volumes and ship you know was out. Motherfucker

975
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: was uppers and downers and all that shit. So yeah,

976
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: that's what he did, man.

977
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you coming from San Francisco, man, how big

978
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: of an influence was the pimp game to you?

979
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Very big?

980
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 4: That's what was outside out there, Like I said, you know,

981
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: in La you go outside, it was game bangs and

982
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 4: out it was just mainly pimps and hustlers.

983
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: You know.

984
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: They was either selling hair un and coke you know,

985
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: and pills, you know, like I said, volumes or whatever

986
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: little quelus or whatever it may be. And then they

987
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: was it was pimps.

988
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: That was it.

989
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of pimps around there.

990
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: You know, this seemed like with the rap game up there,

991
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: all the rapers. San Francisco got his own little rap scene.

992
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: Y'all got a pretty big community, man.

993
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, real big. You know, especially like all of us.

994
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 4: It's really like that macing and you know, like everybody

995
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: here more got that that that swag, that more of

996
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: that macing and that slick talking, you know what I mean.

997
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: That's why it's more like everybody like it's more city slickers.

998
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: That's kind of like where that thing comes that term

999
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: comes from. You know, everybody like slick with the tongue.

1000
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: They you know, they'd be really popping it out here.

1001
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: You know. I really was involved in a lot of that.

1002
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: You know, even though my brothers and a lot of

1003
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: my my older brothers and a lot of them was

1004
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: around at and all that, but I was mainly my

1005
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 4: family was more drug dealers than they was pimps. A

1006
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 4: lot of the pimps, majority of them was from phil Mo,

1007
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 4: you know that that side.

1008
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: We're folk A JT.

1009
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: And a lot of them from They was predominantly you know,

1010
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: pimps and.

1011
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: And stuff over on that side.

1012
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: That PM games started getting. They started charging them boys

1013
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: like they were charging the d boys. Yeah, they was

1014
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: was they was man, you get some time, man, you

1015
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: get some real time. And when they threw that human

1016
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: trafficking like enhancement up there, dog, it was really a rap.

1017
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: That's what did it than human trafficking man and washed

1018
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: it up. You know what I mean?

1019
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: One of them If you a nigga, you get caught

1020
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: one of them little white girls, man, they stretch, they

1021
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: gonna give you all day real talk. It's like a

1022
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: white girl, you're gonna get the charges tripled and double yep,

1023
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: yuh real talk white girls. So so y'all had, y'all had?

1024
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: Fort Forte was the one that really blew the city

1025
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: open first.

1026
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: The one that was like he like, are what too

1027
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: short is to Oakland?

1028
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Was the was the main dog.

1029
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 4: You consider him like that gy father. Yeah, definitely mean

1030
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 4: he was like, oh coo short men to Oakland. That's

1031
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 4: what foe ta meant to us? Because I was with

1032
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: you know, he was he stayed in my projects. His

1033
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 4: his Mama stayed over there and Foth had the best

1034
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 4: of both words because even when we was funking with

1035
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: Philo was able to bounce back and forth because back

1036
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: when they had the Solar system, when he was doing

1037
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: he was with the dude Nate rock Box. They had

1038
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 4: a song called Hubbles Out like Folks. That's when Folk

1039
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 4: got known. He used to the rock all the little

1040
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: house parties. And when he landed that little track that

1041
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: Don't Fight the filing with too Short.

1042
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: It just shot him up. Everybody fell in love.

1043
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: We already was in love with him, but that just

1044
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: it just made him just like a superstar.

1045
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: And uh, man, that's like my brother from another mother. Man,

1046
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: I like, that's my boy.

1047
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: Like he used to be at my house all the

1048
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: time when he was going through his drug addiction.

1049
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: He came to mind.

1050
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: My mom always fed Hi when he used to be

1051
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 4: through my projects. And even when he went to jail

1052
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: and got out. I'm the one kind of like nurtured

1053
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: that whole relationship with him, with Gary and Guy and

1054
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: they brother Frankie J who on Rag Top Records. I'm

1055
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: the one told them to get him, Like, man, y'all

1056
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: need to get Folk, pull him get him in there, man,

1057
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 4: get him in the studio. Our album was was mixing

1058
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: and mastering on the way to come out, about to

1059
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: blow up, and our knew Foe.

1060
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: Was gonna come to me about the music.

1061
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: You know, I was kind of already dabbling with a

1062
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 4: few tracks, trying to put some stuff together for him,

1063
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 4: and I put in a fly here and fly when

1064
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: he got his brother, older brother, Frankie J who ended

1065
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: up snatching Foe up.

1066
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: He snatched him up and took him in.

1067
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 4: I said, man, as soon as he get out, but

1068
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 4: you know heard it getting out in a day or two,

1069
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 4: y'all need to grab him up before even hit the

1070
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 4: streets and start sucking up again. And that's what they did.

1071
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: And uh, man, you know he didn't look back ever since.

1072
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 4: He stayed off the dope. And and to this day,

1073
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: that's my guy. Just did some stuff for his documentary

1074
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, so you know, he going

1075
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: through a little health thing right now.

1076
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: But man, that's my brother from another Yeah.

1077
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. That that's why

1078
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: me and they got to grab him on here, man,

1079
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: because the one thing about it, man, we got to

1080
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: appreciate our legends from the coast. Man, It's like it

1081
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: ain't just La, but our legends from the Bay l A,

1082
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: whether they up in Seattle or whatever like that, we

1083
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: got the whole down man, the reason a reason not.

1084
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: To you know, that's true, that's real, man, But that's

1085
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: my guy man. I really yeah.

1086
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 4: He Like back then it was really like just foute

1087
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: and then you had cool nothing then with I m

1088
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: p uh ill Manosi. You had a dude that he

1089
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 4: William C who was from phil Mo, who had a

1090
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: song called Keeper Bitch Broke that that that he was

1091
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 4: like one of the one of the dudes, and that

1092
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: was pretty much really like the top dudes in Frisco.

1093
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't nobody else until we kind of like dropped

1094
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: and we was coming up off of the cusp of

1095
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 4: listening to you know, I was like I was heavily

1096
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: influenced by you know, dub Ce and the Mass Circle

1097
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 4: of course.

1098
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Uh CMW eight and them.

1099
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 4: I got videos a week imitating them, imitating w C

1100
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 4: in the Fast Circle. Like I got a bunch of

1101
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: footage because I was one of the first dudes in

1102
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 4: the projects that owned the camera. When the video eights

1103
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: came out and I'm out here in my bronco you know,

1104
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: wrapping all that stuff. And it went from there to

1105
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 4: four one five coming out Richie riching him in Oakland.

1106
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: That's kind of where I got my styff from. Like

1107
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: n w A, s CMW and four one five in them,

1108
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's kind of like

1109
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 4: what RBO was, you know what I mean.

1110
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: So yep, yeah, so so so l A had a

1111
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: real big influence on the back then.

1112
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, heavy, yeah, heavy, especially with us in our projects.

1113
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 4: They had a heavy, heavy influence. You know, that's all

1114
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: we was playing. You know, we was happy because back

1115
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: before that we was bunching a bunk. We was bumping

1116
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 4: a bunch of like Big Daddy Kanes and who else

1117
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 4: was playing a bunch of East Coast It was a

1118
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 4: lot of East Coast stuff that.

1119
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 2: Was everybody was. It wasn't nothing else.

1120
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, steady beads before I let go, Like we was

1121
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: playing a bunch of that, you know, mc Shoty and

1122
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff like you know what I mean.

1123
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: But then n w A was like a brother of

1124
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 4: fresh Air. It was like you know, of course then

1125
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: it was like the ghetto boys, n w A. All

1126
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: that was like what was getting played in the city

1127
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 4: all day every day, and plus everything and banks and

1128
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 4: them start dealing with mc pooling, them start coming out

1129
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: with fucking with dank, you have spice and them start hitting, uh,

1130
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: Like I said, the four one five, and then Richie,

1131
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: Richie and them started hit coming out and we just

1132
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: was playing all that iced tea. Of course, we was

1133
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: playing ice everything, ice tea, all the six and them

1134
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 4: and all that. So it was you know, we were

1135
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 4: we was heavy the West Coast and anything from the

1136
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: West King that's all it was being bumped in our

1137
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: projects barely was bumping the East Coast after that.

1138
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy because every region started getting their own rappers,

1139
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: like l A had their own ones like the one

1140
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: dudes that don't never get props. Like I remember when

1141
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: I first came to California, tidy t. You heard a

1142
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: battering ram on the radio every day. You heard like

1143
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: not cocaine, just living heads, Spade them get ready to rock?

1144
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: What was that?

1145
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: What you go do when you get out the jail?

1146
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 2: Them going to get it.

1147
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: Ball counter Posse record, you know cool King Tea, a

1148
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: lot of King tea and yeah, yeah, the Act Food

1149
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: record Uh, that was like my that was like my

1150
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: foundation for when the first ship got cracking. We we

1151
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: we had a lot of East Coast ship to listen to,

1152
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: so we didn't have no representation of who we truly were. Yeah,

1153
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: Le's coach Niggas you feel Me. Niggas symbolized us really

1154
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: down in La Comps and whatever nigga symbolizes us from

1155
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: the Colors movie You feel Me. We really wasn't significant

1156
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: as far as the rap scene. And then, like you said,

1157
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 3: easy and time, Todd came along with the Battle round

1158
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 3: and kind of opened the door for motherfuckers to go,

1159
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: you know something, maybe we could try something else. You know.

1160
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: Even though you know, Niggas had their mixtapes out the

1161
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: trunk in the neighborhood and Todd had the battle around,

1162
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: we still had the presence of a lot of electronic

1163
00:53:48,080 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: you know music and a lot of influence, influence all that, Yeah,

1164
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: like that, all that other Like me and the homie

1165
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: Rich was talking about it today, like we had a

1166
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: lot of that it's time and radioactive your music, you know,

1167
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: it was all that Egyptian lever type. Yeah, when the

1168
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 3: beat goes on and ship like that. You know, that

1169
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: was All World Team broke through and made it to

1170
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 3: where niggas felt like, you know something, I ain't got

1171
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: a rap like them on the East Coast or do that.

1172
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: I could talk about what happened in the projects last night,

1173
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, I could talk about.

1174
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: Me trying to go hook up with a bitch or

1175
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: some ship.

1176
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: About me and the homies was on our way to

1177
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: the spot and got jacked by the police and ship

1178
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: so made us feel like, Okay, well we can do that.

1179
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: Ship. You feel me, so open up.

1180
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: You and they. He has work before.

1181
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was on the ninety seven album. Yeah, yeah,

1182
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 4: on the n one I album. Yeah, that was a

1183
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 4: must I had. I was trying to get him. Gotta

1184
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 4: get mine.

1185
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get my man. Yeah yeah, I was

1186
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: on there.

1187
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: I think Teyla was on Man.

1188
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: Tela YEAHQ on the hook. Uh yeah man, that motherfucker. Man,

1189
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: that motherfucker was dope as hell. Man.

1190
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 4: That was a dream come true because him, like I

1191
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: said him cube and uh and uh fucking scarface.

1192
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: Man.

1193
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: Then was like man, I was like, I fucked with

1194
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: the younger niggas up in the bay around that time.

1195
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: My niggas was ship all. I was up there fucking

1196
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: with spice all the time. Yeah, that was my nigga.

1197
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: So I was up there for a pool, man. I

1198
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 3: just with a lot of niggas up there, Yeah yeah,

1199
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: and made it easy work. Nigga went on no Hollywood

1200
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: ship and none of that ship. Nigga ship out a Sap.

1201
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 3: That's what I loved about it.

1202
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 4: I was like, man, because you you hate to run

1203
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 4: into motherfucker who you look up to, you respect it

1204
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: and they be acting like a bitch and just be.

1205
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: Acting funny, and you'd be like, damn, man, this nigga.

1206
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: I thought this nigga was like this, and like you

1207
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: know what, man, Man, he made that ship happen. Man,

1208
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: A sap too.

1209
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: Ain't always been. He'd always been real down to earth,

1210
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: even when we even before we start doing this podcast,

1211
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: I would see I remember my song Bailing through the

1212
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: Lake with marg is real regular. He was just up

1213
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: there right foot like is bailing exactly.

1214
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: Man. It's had the perception if you didn't alienate yourself

1215
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: and you just you know, nigga, nigga ship, I'm just

1216
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: thinking ship. Yeah, yeah, listen to a regular motherfucker man,

1217
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: and that whatever you did, Nigga, I did the same

1218
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: motherfucking game. You feel me step always took.

1219
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: I felt like a man. I don't know, like, I

1220
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I could have.

1221
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: You know, I could have been a nigga that went

1222
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: out and said, fuck it, I'm gonna pay five niggas

1223
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 3: to be security, and then you know, I'm gonna do

1224
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: some shit like go to the foot locker and take

1225
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: five security guards. Maybe I think if you cause that

1226
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: presence for yourself, then you asking for what you expect

1227
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: to expect. If I'm a nigga pulling up parking in

1228
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: a parking spot by myself getting out, and I'm not

1229
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: bringing attention to myself because I'm I'm basically finna do

1230
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: like the other thousand cars that's up here right here,

1231
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 3: go to foot locker, probably buy me a pair of shoes,

1232
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: and then get back in my car and going by

1233
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: my business. That doesn't that that to me, that doesn't

1234
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 3: warrant attention, Like Okay, yeah, I got a video out

1235
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: and I got a platinum record out, and I'm like,

1236
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pull up you know what I'm saying

1237
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: right here in in my in my three hundred thousand

1238
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: dollars car jumping out with my two hundred thousand dollars

1239
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: chain on, and and now it's like people are like, well,

1240
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: who the fuck is that? You know, so market and

1241
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: I'm looking for a parking space. Motherfucker's gonna be like, well,

1242
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 3: who the fuck is that? Then I get out, Then

1243
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: there's five niggas around my car, and then now we

1244
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: all I'm bringing attention has to be like, let me

1245
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: just run in here by myself real quick, grab this

1246
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: ship and get the fuck out. Attention that I was

1247
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: never a seeker of attention, And you know, that's hard

1248
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: to That's hard to be when you're in the position of,

1249
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: you know, even how we are now you get me,

1250
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: we hit. We still have some sort of celebrity and

1251
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: success to our our lifestyle. But you know, like today

1252
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: when I go to the gas stage there, I'm trying

1253
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: to be normal, you know, that grocery store. You know,

1254
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: I try to be normal. Is there some people who

1255
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: are gonna recognize and be like, hey, that's but I

1256
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: still like, hey, how you doing, and then go about

1257
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 3: my business.

1258
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: It's normal.

1259
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: Uh So, I don't I think if you're you know,

1260
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 3: if you're not a seeker of attention, you can you

1261
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: can somewhat try to live a normal lifestyle.

1262
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want, you know. And then there's another

1263
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: thing too.

1264
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: You can't be an arrogant asshole to where you know

1265
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 3: everybody on the block or in the building wants to

1266
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: put hands on you.

1267
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Now you have to stay protected and put yourself in

1268
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: that sitution.

1269
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: You know what The biggest thing is though, Bro, you

1270
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: gotta always be aware where you at right either be

1271
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: a where your surroundings. And it's like I tell people, man,

1272
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: in reality, you should be able to wear whatever you

1273
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: want to around anybody, but that just seems the case.

1274
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: You can't go dangling steaks around pit bulls and not

1275
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 2: expect to get done.

1276
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying as to saying that I

1277
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: ain't got five or six niggas jumping out, but that

1278
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: ain't saying I ain't got a motherfucking you know, forty

1279
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 3: five under my motherfucker's seat, or or play somewhere in

1280
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: my exact I'm I'm not a seeker of attention, but

1281
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: then I'm not a motherfucking naive motherfucker to the situations

1282
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 3: niggas to go through in your position, You feel me

1283
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: just because I got to advance myself on the mind

1284
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: state of I'm a normal nigga. I still know what

1285
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: the other motherfucking nigga who's the greedy hate for mine stated,

1286
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 3: nigga might be thinking, So you know, there's not five

1287
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: six security niggas hanging around. Don't mean it ain't a

1288
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: full fifth fully loaded sitting somewhere too, exactly.

1289
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got your surroundings at all times.

1290
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, always, So you and Forte's relationship, right, You mentioned

1291
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: that Foe had so fourth had a drug problem before,

1292
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: not to getting his business like that, but he had

1293
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: that before his career even launched.

1294
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, before it even launched.

1295
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was you know, he used to be rapping

1296
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 4: and kind of like in and out of the penitentiary,

1297
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, doing this thing. He went through his struggles

1298
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: and whatnot, and uh he bounced back once he got

1299
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: with Frankie J and he would never know looking.

1300
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: Back, he never touched drugs again, went through it. That's

1301
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: what I said. Folk got a story.

1302
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: I was telling him, like, bro, you want to dock

1303
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 4: and said you need to do a book because fol

1304
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 4: Fall been around, He's been through some ship as far

1305
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: as just just just just life. You know what I mean,

1306
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: not necessarily gang banging and the drugs flanging, but just

1307
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: being being being around in the early eighties, just out

1308
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 4: there when motherfuckers is all going to them parties at

1309
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 4: the Solar System, when the Hunters, when Frisco was all

1310
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: one just getting just mentioning, mingling with the Oakland cats

1311
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: over there, dealing with Short and all them, and just

1312
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: his drug problem in and out the penitentiary and they're like,

1313
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 4: folk really got a little story man.

1314
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: And I told him, like, bro, you need to he

1315
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: got it. I can't wait to talk to him. I

1316
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: definitely can't wait to sit down with him. And not

1317
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: to keep you know, bringing them up, but I think that,

1318
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: like I admire spots like seeing friends and Compton and

1319
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: stuff like that, because at the time when y'all came out,

1320
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: y'all was sitting the president kind it wasn't nobody before.

1321
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: Y'all, not at all.

1322
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 4: Nobody at all, not nobody was that we act Like

1323
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: I said, we didn't really look up to nobody except

1324
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 4: the dudes in Oakland.

1325
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: Oakland was like the Mecca Bear area.

1326
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 4: You know, everybody know that Oaklands like and Banks and

1327
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 4: all them like they they had the scene going on

1328
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 4: besides La.

1329
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: It was La first.

1330
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: That was like the mecca when it just came to

1331
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 4: cut La. Whatever was popping in La, that's what we're playing.

1332
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 4: That's what we owned. Then once Oakland start really thriving

1333
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: after two Short because we watched Short come up.

1334
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: Short was coming through six seven months.

1335
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 4: Stang, I'm seeing him come dealing with my dudes at

1336
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 4: Booboo with them who was dealing with James Beasley, you

1337
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 4: know who just got out some years ago. You know,

1338
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 4: he just dropped his book too. You know, James moving uh,

1339
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 4: you know, moving, moving them things, doing his thing, and

1340
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: he messed with a lot of the dudes, little d

1341
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 4: and them from Oakland and that kind of like let

1342
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: Short come over there, and Short was protected. You didn't

1343
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 4: have to worry about nothing. Everybody loved Short. He came

1344
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 4: through selling his little cassettes five dollars a cassette. You know,

1345
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: we watched him doing all the freaky tails air and

1346
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 4: all that. You know, I'm a young nigga out there

1347
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 4: seeing Short come through, Passenger see coming through, hanging out

1348
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 4: with boobooing them in the astral vans and all that.

1349
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 4: Like I watched all that, witnessed it out the trunk

1350
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 4: and coming to every project too. Shortening was coming through,

1351
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 4: and yeah, it was just one of those things were

1352
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 4: just like damn, you know. It wasn't nobody else but

1353
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: Shortened and all of a sudden and Banks just created

1354
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 4: was creating a culture pretty much when he started dealing

1355
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 4: with him Se Pool, Spice and all them dangerous dame

1356
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 4: and a lot of them dudes was coming out.

1357
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: It started happening. You know.

1358
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: So where's Poof? Where's Pootman from Poof? From San Francisco?

1359
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Now from East Oakland, from Oakland, from Oakland, Yeah, he's

1360
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: straight up Oakland.

1361
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: If I can get all the I think I knew

1362
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 2: all the San Francisco rappers. Let me see if I

1363
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: get it right, rb L Posse wrapping four tem The

1364
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: bigger figure.

1365
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: MH.

1366
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: I want to say is Messy mar from San Francisco.

1367
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: From San Francisco, u E the m C. Yeah it's

1368
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: somebody else. I'm forgetting them.

1369
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: From the lake View area, miss.

1370
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: You know what, I always thought cool enough for some reason,

1371
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: what's Oregon? I don't know why he from me?

1372
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: From lake View? You know they uh lake viewers with

1373
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: sales Ki.

1374
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 4: They had a few rappers over there nobody that blew

1375
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 4: up his biggest uh like I m p cooglaner Cooglan.

1376
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 4: I had his solo thing that's cooler. And then he

1377
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 4: was part of the im ill manor Posse his crew.

1378
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 4: They dropped around eighty nine ninety. They dropped when I

1379
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 4: was in I was in Long Cabin Ranch.

1380
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: You know, let me see because that's my thing.

1381
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: That except that I'm rolling in scanless and that came

1382
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: out of eighty nine. That was they were slapping. He

1383
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: was doing his thing.

1384
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, came out around eighty nine, eighty nine and ninety.

1385
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 4: That's when he made his debut. Eighty nine.

1386
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen eighty nine eighty that was a year after

1387
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: you just that was a year after you just dropped.

1388
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I dropped, Yeah, Yeah, I was bumping eight ship

1389
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 4: was it before I went to the ranch we was

1390
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 4: playing I made that video. I think it was before

1391
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 4: it was like eighty eight is eighty eight eighty nine

1392
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: is then we got out.

1393
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: Once I got out, that's when I started dabbling with

1394
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: the music. Late eighty nine going into the ninety that's

1395
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: when we started.

1396
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 4: We got in the game and we were just mainly

1397
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: doing what too Short that was doing, selling in our projects,

1398
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 4: and we decided to dude named CTG played us the

1399
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: Greatest stole one of my beats, and he put it

1400
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 4: out on actual cassette. And once he did that, I

1401
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: was just I got to go to the studio because

1402
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: I'd probably been just selling cassettes in the neighborhood cause

1403
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,479
Speaker 4: were just getting a lot of money just selling.

1404
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: And find out the cassettes around there with it.

1405
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 2: It was like I heard they was getting paid up

1406
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: there back in the day. Man, somebody told me they

1407
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 2: was up there was making real money.

1408
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because we was killing him. People were

1409
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: coming through all day. Man.

1410
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: There was a dude named Axing Jack who kind of

1411
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 4: put us on. He was from Sunnydale. He kind of

1412
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 4: put us on to a lot of the new stuff,

1413
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 4: like with EP EPM D and all of them came

1414
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 4: out with You're a Customer all that. He was one

1415
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 4: of the first ones playing all that, you know with

1416
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: uh it Takes two with mc shy d and all like.

1417
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: He did that kind of put us on to whatever

1418
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 4: was hitting in the East Coast, whatever was hitting down

1419
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 4: in southern California.

1420
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: He was the first.

1421
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 4: He was uh and he's still around right now, still

1422
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 4: doing DJ, but Action Jack was the guy. He one

1423
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 4: that he knew all the hits and educated us and

1424
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 4: put us on to it. Even when four and five

1425
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 4: came out with the groupy ass Bitch using that motherfucking

1426
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 4: Commodore's brick house beat, it was like he came to mixtape.

1427
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: He was doing this thing. So yeah, that was our

1428
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: little introduction to a line.

1429
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: The niggas got some cold tables. Man busted bits down.

1430
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: A boy a female don't get no love on the

1431
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: West Coast. I was telling you know what I was

1432
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: telling at home, Yes, said, I think that's why the

1433
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: West ain't never really had no big, huge female rapper.

1434
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 2: You know, we frids, but you know we ain't never

1435
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: had nobody that blew up on a level like a

1436
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: like a Nicki Mina Sha or or Cardi Bat. You

1437
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying.

1438
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: At all at all? I think we yo yo back

1439
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: in the days or something whose.

1440
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: Gi yo yo. But she was it because you gotta

1441
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: think about this. Back in the day, it was a

1442
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: bitch is a bitch. Bitches ain't ship for holes and

1443
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: tricks all y'all ship all y'all, biggest man have broad

1444
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: ain't got a.

1445
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: Chance out there, you got a chance. But we was

1446
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: so crazy.

1447
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 4: We was actually bumping like mc light in the hood though,

1448
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 4: all that little fucking chi and Georgie Porgy, whatever that

1449
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 4: ship was, We was actually playing that ship though. Back

1450
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: in the days in the hood, she got some play out.

1451
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 4: She was about probably the only one they probably got

1452
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,839
Speaker 4: some play in in the neighborhood from the dudes. Nobody

1453
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 4: else got no play and no ride, no female until

1454
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 4: it later on, once you got with like Sea Bowl

1455
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 4: and then Marvelous, and then they was more thugging it.

1456
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: Once they start thugging it, then the motherfuckers start playing.

1457
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: Was harder than the motherfucker Marvilus was some ship. I

1458
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: ain't heard her name in a long time.

1459
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: For niggas even want to play that ship. Niggas ain't

1460
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: rolling around playing no female. You know what I mean.

1461
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: You gotta be hard. I think, Yeah, you gotta be

1462
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: on some ship.

1463
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: Man.

1464
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: We appreciate this man sitting down with his dog. We

1465
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: gotta definitely do this in person. This ain't gonna be

1466
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 2: here last time here either, man, because we got a

1467
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: lot more to talk about. It's like I be enough

1468
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: time that I will be going by so fucking fast Man, Sir, sir, Yeah,

1469
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Man, So what you got going on now? Bro?

1470
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 4: Man just shows you know, like I said, I gotta EP.

1471
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 4: I'm Finnah drop with this DJ DJ Idea up here.

1472
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 4: He'll be doing a lot of mob sound music. When

1473
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 4: I got this othernother EP. I'm Finnah dropping probably around

1474
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 4: like May with this dude DJ DJ Folly Foley.

1475
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: You do a lot of my nephew, my boy Larry June.

1476
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, he blowing up out here.

1477
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 4: So Larry June Producers, I got something going on with

1478
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 4: him because Larry kind of like the one that kind

1479
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 4: of got me back in the game because I ain't

1480
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: gonnallow semi retired just doing like cannabis collaboration deals and

1481
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 4: just doing licensing deals and just kind of eating out

1482
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 4: of that and I wasn't off the rap ship. And

1483
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 4: then Larry kind of like he started blowing the fuck up.

1484
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 4: You know, that's my one of my best friend son,

1485
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So he brought me, got

1486
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 4: me in the studio to do a song with him,

1487
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 4: and then all the little younger generations start going back

1488
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 4: doing research and start seeing like, oh, like man, Larry

1489
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 4: sounds similar to y'all on your first album, and he

1490
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 4: kind of flipped the style with a little bit of

1491
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 4: Mac Dre and his own little twists, and man, he

1492
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: like that dude right now, you know what I mean.

1493
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 4: So he brought me back in the game. I start

1494
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: putting out stuffs and numbers, start streaming doing good. He

1495
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 4: started getting me on a couple of his tours. So

1496
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: now I've been back at it now. It's like, man,

1497
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 4: I got big with that bug. So yeah, we've got

1498
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 4: shows coming up. We're gonna be down there in Anaheim

1499
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 4: next next month May and then Pop. We just came

1500
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 4: back from the AI doing two shows, so well, yeah,

1501
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 4: we've been moving, man, were moving and growing.

1502
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: I saw y'all the what was the show that you

1503
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: were did in LA eight number one for the Best, Yeah, yeah,

1504
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: for the for the Mexican on me.

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: My homie uh yeah, man, Bobby d No, no, no,

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: my homie, uh Spooky from mob G. He'd be putting

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01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 3: on them shows.

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all was in that show. I saw you at

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01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: the Thing black and I was trying to holler at you.

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: But you know how to be with the concerts, something

1512
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: like he was trying to get in. I had to

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01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 2: go up there and I came back and you was gone.

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 4: You're talking about the Night of the Black Skin or

1515
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah they yeah, yeah, man,

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 4: they be having it popping.

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01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: My boy.

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 3: That's my boy Spooky from mob G that's his little

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01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 3: ship right be cracking.

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: When I was walking over to you, he was at

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01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 2: the door. They was They was trying not to let

1522
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: a d and I was like, y'all tripping, y'all, this

1523
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: man gotta show up at tonight.

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that thing was. It was lit up and there.

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 4: I like those type of shows better than them big

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01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 4: old old arenas and all that.

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: Like them like that right there.

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01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 3: Nice, that's a better intimate setting for niggas, like yeah,

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01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 3: uh you know, it be majority of.

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01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: True fans and fans exactly and the spectators. You feel.

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01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: That was a nice little crowd. What was it about

1532
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: a thousand people there, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, it

1533
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: was crowded.

1534
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: Over that, a little over a thousand.

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot of people, that motherfuckers. I

1536
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: remember when I had to go out there to gets

1537
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: you and I had to walk upstairs to see you,

1538
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 2: old boy, and I had to I had to some people.

1539
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: It's packed in here.

1540
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and man, him and DJ Drew too. DJ Drew

1542
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 4: be doing a lot of intimate, like nice setting shows

1543
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 4: like that too. He got us over there Orange County.

1544
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 4: I forgot it's called the I forgot that theater name

1545
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 4: out there in Orange County. But he another one that's

1546
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 4: good to link up with too.

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 4: I love dealing with them, man, because they handled business

1549
01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: right and they got that promo down.

1550
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: They get they get them heads up in there. I

1551
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: love it.

1552
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: I love it you working man. Hey, we're gonna talk

1553
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 2: about some stuff off here. Man, were about to let

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: y'all go now. Much love for tuning in with us,

1555
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: and we gon holler back at y'all next week.

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: Sure, man, salute man. Appreciate y'all having for show anytime. Bro, Yes,

1557
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: sir well.

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01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 2: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,840
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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,920
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1562
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 2: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangster

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01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: Chronicles podcasts of Norman Stelled, Aaron M.

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: C A.

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: Tyler. Our visual media director is Brian Whatt, and the

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01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: audio editors tell It Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is a

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