1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hollywood is being rebuilt by artists not afraid to disrupt 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: the status quo, telling fresh stories and bringing to life 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: characters who until now have been confined to the margins. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: This is emerging Hollywood, piece of the planet. I go 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: by the name of Charlemagne and God, and today I'm 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: here with writer, actor, comedian, and executive producer of one 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: of my favorite shows to hit comedy, Abbott Elementary quinta 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: brunch in his hair. How are you feeling, I'm feeling good. 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I am really happy to have this conversation because I 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: am a real big Fanary. I'm glad that we finally 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: get to talk. Now. You're the youngest of five, Yeah, 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: what was life like growing up? You know, in West Philadelphia, 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: going and raised. I'm sorry, yeah, I know, it's okay. 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I let people get it out of their system. You know, 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: it was great. I love growing up in Philly. It's 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: a beautiful city with a ton of culture. It was 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: a nice environment to grow up in. And being youngest 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: of five, I just kind of took so much from 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: my siblings. They were older. They were experiencing comedy in 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: their own ways, like their favorite things range from Kings 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: of Comedy to I don't know, like Conan to my 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: mom and dad, like really old shows like the Bob 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: Newhart Show and The Jeffersons and stuff. So I feel 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: like all that funneled into me and my brother who's 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: closest to me, like the Hespin Tour, so I got 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: the stupidest stuff too. It all just funneled down. So 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: it was na being the youngest of five, did you 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: get away with a lot? I have more eyes on me, 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: for sure. My parents were very overprotective. Really by the 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: time they get to the youngest ones, they kind of 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: like they don't read the youngest like they do the oldest. 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: In my case, they were very overprotective. You said that 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: when you can make your siblings laugh, you knew you 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: were doing something right. So how would you make them laugh? 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: One of the big things was them putting me in 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: a car seat and making me do impressions of Wanda 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: from and Living Color. They made me redo Martin episodes, 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: like from beginning to end. You can remember whole episodes 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: of Martin when I was younger, Yeah, I still can. 40 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of Fresh Prince episodes I can't 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: remember from beginning and like you can almost quote so 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that. It was kind of knowing these shows 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: like the back of my hand to be able to 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: say the lines to them later. That was the way 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: to connect to them. I was also so far away 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: from them. My closest sibling is eight years older than 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: me and my other siblings. It's you know, ten years, 48 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: fifteen years, and then twenty years. As a kid, I 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: couldn't really relate to them. But making them laugh was 50 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: how I got to, you know, hang out with them 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: and our whole family like my mom and dead too. 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: We all really came together over comedies. It was like 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: the one thing that we could all agree on was 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: a good a good sitcom. At the end of the day. 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: You were raised hval witness, So was I. You were 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: absolutely my mom My mom still go to the kingdom 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: all to this way what I did not. Yes, so 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: it is mine. So how strict was your upbringing? Ye, 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying over active. I can just use now you 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, Like they were very strict. Also, 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I was the only kid that was born and raised 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: in it. You know what I mean? Wait, that's not true. 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: Me and my young my brother closest to me, the 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: rest of them weren't like raised jos Oh. I was 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: a whole family. What oh yeah, I had the whole righteous, 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: ratcheous mom and dads. My dad ended up getting this 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: fellowship because he got baptized on the annual business getting back. 68 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: I believe this conversation right now. Absolutely, I should beat 69 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: this fellowship. I'm on the run. You'll never get me. 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: I never got baptized. That's why. Yeah, because I knew 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: that was too much freshure. I did because I was 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: so ambitious. I was such an ambitious thirteen year old. 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, because I was like, I love God. 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I didn't too, but that's too much Fresshire. I know, well, 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: you had enough foresight. Have you held on to any 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: of those traditions? I haven't. You go to Memorial service still. 77 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Memorial is the one thing I'll try really hard to 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: go to, and it gets harder for me every single year. 79 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: There's always a new obstacle. Last year I tried to go. 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: I show up. It's a Korean hall. I was like, 81 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: what the hell, Like, why can't I could not win? 82 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there dressed like a slut. In comparison, like, 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: because I was also trying to go to this party 84 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: after so I was like, I'm just wearing this dress. 85 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: It was a little short, but I was like, it's cool. 86 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm sitting the back. They're just like appalled at what 87 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm wearing, and I'm like, calm down. I was gonna 88 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: sit in the back if I could get in anyway. 89 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: The brothers are just like looking at me. All you 90 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: want to do with passing bready wine. I'm like, it 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: gets hurt or hurt every single year, but I keep 92 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: trying to show up. Yeah, there was a lot of 93 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: reasons why it wasn't for me, but I don't think 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: it's bad, and I think it weren't for that. I'm 95 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: not sure that me and my siblings would have like 96 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: survived Philadelphia at the time. Yeah, because that kind of structure, 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: I guess in faith, it kind of keeps you out 98 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: of trouble, which is why people hold on dear to 99 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: religion period. You know, it keeps you on a good path. 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: So I'm grateful about holidays. How do you feel about 101 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: those now? You know we didn't get those kids. We 102 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: didn't There was one year I just wanted to see 103 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: what it feels like, what it feels like, so I 104 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: went to write eight and got like a plastic Christmas 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: tree and I just put it and I put it 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: in my apartment and I just looked at it, and 107 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: I left it there for like maybe one night, and 108 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: then I took an out through it in trash. But 109 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what it felt like. You 110 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: never just wanted to see. I mean, I do it. 111 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: I got to know a whole family, so it's like 112 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: my wife up, so you'd be out here sober in Christmas. 113 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: I enjoy it though, but not because yo, that's so Awkwarls. 114 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Did you have any insecurity growing up? There was a 115 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: point where I thought if I had a big butt 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: and I could sing, then my life would be different. 117 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: And that was an insecurity for a while. I remember 118 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: like stuffing my pants like I were like three pairs 119 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: of tights to school one day because I wanted to 120 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: have a bigger butt. That was before I know, I 121 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: don't know what the girls are gonna do now. I 122 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: had a really bad breakup in college. High school boyfriend, 123 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: and then college we broke up and it was so bad. 124 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: It was so bad that I had no choice but 125 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: to put myself back together. And when you get your 126 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: heartbroken that bad and everything falls apart and you put 127 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: yourself back together. You didn't, You didn't become invincible. And 128 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: then like all that kind of stuff doesn't matter anymore, 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: Like I just don't care about it anymore. What helps 130 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: you put things back together? You said everything fell apart 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: after the breakup? Like, did you start going to see 132 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: a therapists? Are? No? Therapy wasn't It wasn't the conversation 133 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: that it is now, Do you know what I mean? 134 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: At the time, I think I probably should have back 135 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: then because I was like depressed, but I barely had 136 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: the language to identify it as depression. Did you drink? 137 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Have really smoked? No? I wish no. I probably wouldn't 138 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: help me get through it better. No, I was such 139 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: a nube at the time. I didn't really drink. I 140 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: had many days that were pretty much dropped out of 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: school because of that, which was crazy. I never I 142 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: don't talk about that a lot, but I did pretty 143 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: much drop out because I just could not peel myself 144 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: out of the bed and depression. It was depression and 145 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: I just didn't identify it as such. And I watched 146 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: the same DVD of Bruce Almighty on repeat every day. 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't pick up the remote to change the DVD. 148 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't even peel myself out of bed to take 149 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: the DVD out of the DVD players. I'll watched it 150 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: over and over. I sought out like help from friends, 151 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, like friends helped me out big time. I 152 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: had one friend, Brandy, who gave me a list of 153 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: affirmations to say in the window, sorry, in the window, 154 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: in the mirror and that. I remember that being a 155 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: specific thing that helped me. I remember thinking it was 156 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: very stupid, but then I would say the affirmation to 157 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: myself in the mirror every single day, and after a 158 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: year it felt like they had worked. It's crazy, those 159 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: little things like that. I picked myself back up eventually 160 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: and started making plans to work, to go to LA. 161 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: It was really making plans that helped pull me out 162 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: of that, I think, because even when I came to LA, 163 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: I was still dealing with it, and I just, I 164 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: don't know, I worked my way out of it. Did 165 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: it feel you in some way? Like? I always think 166 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: about that? Uh. I think that Markus Zuckerberg w un 167 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: at the end. He kept hitting he created because of 168 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: this young lady. Feel you like that. Yeah, I mean 169 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: when that away from broke over me, I was like, 170 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how, but you're going to see my 171 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: face everywhere and then and I did not know how, 172 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: and then you know, like then I like head going 173 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: viral on Instagram and stuff like that. So I think 174 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: it definitely did. But now that's all going away, I like, 175 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: did that and we're friends now, and yeah, but it 176 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: definitely feeled me at the time. Yeah, for sure. Did 177 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: you ever start your own journey going to therapy things 178 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: like that, like how it's quick to heal. I haven't 179 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: gone in therapy. I do have a journey, though, Like 180 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: there are things that I do to take care of 181 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: my mental health. Sometimes that's just resting. Sometimes that's just 182 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: being with friends and family when I need to. Sometimes 183 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: it's checking in with myself making sure I'm not doing 184 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: harmful things to my for my mental health, Like comparisons. 185 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a small thing that people don't think 186 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: about that really messes with your mental health, you know, comparing. 187 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: And I always have to check in, especially as I'm 188 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: you know, having this moment with Abbot. Always have to 189 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: check in and ground myself. So I try to be 190 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: very active doing that. I feel like my mental health 191 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: is in a really good place. But if it ever weren't, 192 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: I would tap in and not ignore it. I think 193 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: who had more influence on your career Your sixth grade teacher, 194 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Miss Abbott. I heard you ran in the Paul Rudd 195 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: at a movie theater. Yeah, that little gym that Paul 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Rudd dropped on me that I don't that he barely remembers. 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: It was just one of those little sparks that makes 198 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: you believe something is possible about my teacher, Miss Abbott 199 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: and my mother. Really, who's like the inspiration behind Abbott? 200 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: Your teachers are to me ultimately responsible for your ability 201 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: to read, right, articulate, present yourself. They turn you into 202 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: a human. So I was really fortunate enough to have 203 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: really good teachers that I loved. It always like bugs 204 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: me out when people talk about having a teacher they hated. 205 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: I just never had that experience. So not only did 206 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: it inspire me to make Abbit clearly influential for that reason, 207 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: but they were good at making people like like, turning 208 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: kids into good people, citizens, creators, etc. So it's Abbot 209 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: a real school in Philly. I did you name the 210 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: school after? I named the squafter the teacher. Yeah, wow, 211 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: how does she feel about that? She loved it. She 212 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: she didn't even realize it until she saw me talking 213 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: about it on the news, And that's how humble she is. 214 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: I was like, you didn't see the name abbit and 215 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: think it was about you? And it just so just 216 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: humble that it didn't even cross her mind at first. 217 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: I think that's so funny, But yeah, she loves it. 218 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: Elementary is a hit, like a hit, hit, like a 219 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: big Like, how does it feel to receive so much 220 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: praise for the show. It's so crazy, I you know, 221 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: I keep saying when we made the show, when we 222 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: sold it, we felt like this is good. When I 223 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: wrote the pilot, I was like, this is good. We 224 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: got the writers and I was like, oh my god, 225 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: we're making good stuff here, right, And then you get 226 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: on set and everyone's like, we feel like we'ren't making 227 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: a good show. Like from everybody from you know, hearing makeup, 228 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: to directors to to the COVID crew. Everyone's like, this 229 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: feels good. And so we knew we're making something good, 230 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: but for it to go out into the world and 231 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: people feel the same way and to come to the 232 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: show so soon. I was expecting it to be like, 233 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was like, all right, it's airing 234 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: weekly on ABC, like it's not going to catch one 235 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: until it's full season on streaming. I did not imagine 236 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: this energy so fast, and I'm just like in awe 237 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: of it, very humbled by it. I'm so happy that 238 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: people are seeking out something like this to watch, do 239 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? There were times I wondered 240 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: if it was too I knew it was good, but 241 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: I was like, ah, man, I wonder if people don't 242 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: want heartwarming. I don't know where people are these days, 243 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: but I knew that there was a market there for 244 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: it because people keep rewatching old sitcoms on Netflix. My 245 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: Nieces fourteen and she's just now discovering like you know, 246 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Friends and the Office, and she she loves it. She 247 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: loves the feel of it, you know. And I was like, 248 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: so that feeling people there will always be run for that. 249 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: I guess I just expected people to ignore it for 250 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: a while, and the fact that they hadn't, I mean, 251 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: thank you thanks to everyone for watching, because you know, 252 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: like Avid, is what happens when these networks give black 253 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: creatives real budgets and and and don't get in their way. Yeah, 254 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to notes and stuff like that, I 255 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: have to agree with that. ABC was definitely the place 256 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: I just felt they were gonna let me. They believed 257 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: in me. Like you said, the budget was there up front. 258 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a fight for because it's surprising 259 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: how much you know, we still have to fight for 260 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: pennies sometimes. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean it's clear you have 261 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: a lot of respectful teachers, and you know I love 262 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: that because my mom is a post school Yeah. So 263 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: did you set out to make to make commentary on 264 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: undefunded schools? Was that the goal? Not necessarily? I think 265 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: a good show begins with a grounded topic, right, Like 266 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: we may not think of it that way, but like 267 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: the Office was about, um, you know, the work crisis 268 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: at the time. You know, we were coming out of recession, 269 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And when you build something 270 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: from that place, it automatically yields good fruit most of 271 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: the time. So my idea was to begin from that place. 272 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: We have this, I've seen it firsthand what teachers go 273 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: through from day to day. But I wasn't necessarily setting 274 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: out to change anything or like beat people over the 275 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: head with the message. I just knew that if we 276 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: started in the real place, with the state of where 277 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: we are right now, that that's the best way to 278 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: start a comedy. I think that's because a lot of 279 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: people just like to be funny first, and that's what, 280 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, just funny funny. It's like, no, can I 281 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: create a story, can start something real and funny will come. 282 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: That's it's weird because people look at it. The jokes 283 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: are really like the easy part. You can, you know whatever, 284 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: but you have to have a soul of a show first. 285 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: The show doesn't have a soul then you know what 286 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Like the jokes don't matter and anyone can 287 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: say them. Like the soul of the show creates the 288 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: humor of the show. There are things that people find 289 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: funny in the show that aren't even jokes, but it's 290 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: because you know the soul of the show. And I 291 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: think that also is a marker of a good comedy, 292 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: like in Seinfeld, like no soup for you like means 293 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: nothing if you haven't seen Seinfeld. But if you have 294 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: seen Seinfeld, that can make you cry laughing, And that's 295 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: because of the soul of the comedy. You know, like 296 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff matters. I think you're making a 297 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: good show. I think I read some with it. You 298 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: don't like tackling issues. I don't know really If this 299 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: show gets tackled, and so be it. But I'm trying 300 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: to like, that's so much pressure, and why do we 301 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: always have to tackle issues? How come Mark can't make 302 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: some dumb shit like you know, like that's a great point. 303 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: I think it's only because black people feel like we're 304 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: not being represented, so we kind of want to show 305 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: the world like what's going on a lot of times. 306 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: But is it still not representation? If not, that's true? 307 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I really don't like I 308 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: had that in an interview and I felt like that 309 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: came out wrong. But I'm just saying like I don't 310 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: want to start from that point because that's not funny 311 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: to me. That's not where I operate best. Like I said, 312 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: the issue gets tackled and so be it. Similar like 313 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: what's happening with Abbott. But those were naturally the places 314 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: we were going to go and talking about what happens 315 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: in a school, what happens with the school district. But 316 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: starting there just feels so you know what I mean, 317 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: how do you feel when you think about, you know, 318 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the fact that people might see themselves in the character 319 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: of Janine. I love that. That makes me happy. I 320 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: actually love when girls will tweet and say, oh my god, 321 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: I think I'm Janine. Like it's the worst revelation because 322 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jane's kind of annoying and peppie, but she's earnest, 323 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: and I think it's beautiful that people can see themselves 324 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: be all of that. You know. One of the big 325 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: things for me with Janine was clearly she has a 326 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: big heart, but to a fault, you know, and she's 327 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: wrong a lot and right a lot. And I think 328 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: it's really cool that young men and especially young black 329 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: women can see themselves in this poorly dressed like always 330 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: making mistakes girl. I think that's actually special for us. 331 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: To me, that feels like a new version of representation, 332 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: Like to identify with someone who is not together yet. 333 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: I think that's fun. You know. So at some point 334 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: she has to break up with the spire and RAPPERO okay, 335 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: what is why are people so nad? People like like, 336 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: because you could do bad, people's parents call me, we 337 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: got to lose Treeka. I'd be like what, Like I 338 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: was at like a Jewish wedding and this Jews grandmother 339 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: grabbed my face and was like, you need to leave 340 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: the boyfriend. I'm like this, it's just a show, and 341 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: she's like, I don't like it. Like people felt very strongly. 342 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: If he makes it, are you gonna you gonna get 343 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: a deal? You go sign our dream chases or sometimes 344 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: a deal. Look, people hated him in an episode two 345 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Now They're said they nearly don't want to see him 346 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: go after his fade performance. They're like, they're all about him. 347 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: You said, Abbot, the first time since high school that 348 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 1: your mom says she's proud of you. Wow, how did 349 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: that make you feel? That was a moment. I almost 350 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: cried when she said that, and she didn't even know why. 351 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: I was like, you have not said that to me, 352 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: And I don't know how long because everything else I 353 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: was doing, you know, Witnesses she found blasphemous like Black 354 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Lady Sketchule. She was like HBO the nudity Network, and 355 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, So she didn't like that. I 356 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: would tell her work in this place called BuzzFeed, and 357 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: she would like, tell me the truth. Are you stripping? 358 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: And it'd be like she really could not I'm so serious. 359 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: She could not understand what but it made no sense 360 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: to her, And Yeah, showed her the website and she's like, 361 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: this is nothing. This is a website. And I would 362 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: show her videos and she's like still not, well, how 363 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: are you making money from this? But now you know ABC, 364 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: she can understand a TV show that made sense to her, 365 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: so she gets it now and she loves it. She's 366 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: such a sitcom watcher that if she didn't like it, 367 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: she would like say it like her comedy opinion means 368 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: a lot to me. She told me two weeks ago, 369 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: She's like, I'll watch this even if you know it 370 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: wasn't your show, Like I love this show. That means 371 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: a lot to me for sure. I don't think parents 372 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: realize how much those I love you and I'm proud 373 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: of you, how far they go for all of us, 374 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: even when we've become a dose that a child still 375 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: wants to hear that. I know she probably won't told 376 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: me again for like ten years, but I'm gonna hold 377 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: on to that one because it meant a lot. And 378 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: she she didn't say it to make me feel good 379 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: or anything. She genuinely meant it. I damn, it's crazy 380 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: your star of Abbott, executive producer, head writer as well. Yes, okay, 381 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: it's a lot of responsibility. Yeah, it's got to be 382 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: at least two hundred people. Yeah, right, Yeah, it's a 383 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. Does that weigh on you mentally? Only 384 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: sometimes when I feel I like, even right now, I'm like, 385 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: I have to I am speaking for myself, but I 386 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: do feel like I need to represent an entire group 387 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: of people. I want people to be able to have 388 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: jobs next year on the Abbot. I want to make 389 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: sure the show keeps going, so I want to try 390 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: to present myself on behalf of the entire production. And 391 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: besides that, No, because everybody else is so good at 392 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: their jobs that it made my life so much easier. 393 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: It made it easier to delegate, to communicate because everyone 394 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: else was so fantastic. Yes, it's a lot of work 395 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of pressure, but I don't feel it 396 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: because everyone rose to the occasion to stay grounded. I 397 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: play video games, yep, I go bowling. I see my 398 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: family as much as I can. I talk to my 399 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: family constantly because my family is they're not like my 400 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: sisters still just like will make fun of me, and 401 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: I think I need that, do you know what I mean? 402 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: And they keep me very ground it just staying connected 403 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: to them, and I honestly even staying connected to Philly, 404 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: like working with m Philly organizations. There's an organization called 405 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah Philly that I've been working with since twenty nineteen 406 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: and that they work with youth in the areas, like 407 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: an anti gun violence initiative ran by Philly kids. It's 408 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: incredible and just saying tapped in with the city and 409 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: my family, I think really keeps me, keeps my feet 410 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: on the ground. Do you feel success yet? I feel 411 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: it in small ways, Like when I was like I'm 412 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna buy a cappuccino maker. I know that seems small people, 413 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: but like little ways where I'm like oh, and then 414 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: I called my business manager and it like leave us 415 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: alone buy the cappuccino maker, and I just was like, Okay. 416 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: I thought, so a little ways like that where I 417 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: want to buy something, but I'm so used to being 418 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: I used to be broke for a long time, so 419 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't know those things seem big to me. This 420 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing this last year. I was afraid to 421 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: talk to you. Actually, I was like afraid because you 422 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: show sometimes you're like yeah, and I was like, oh 423 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: my god. I've talked to Charlotta Magne and I was like, 424 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: but that's also a good sign of doing something I 425 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: don't want. By the way, no positive affirmations for me. 426 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: This has been nice. This has been lovely. This is positive, right, 427 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: this has been lovely. But I have had such a 428 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, final question, what does Quinta ultimately want 429 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: to do? What do you want out of all of this? 430 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: I hope that after you know, the show finishes airing, 431 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: it will it will have made something in the world 432 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: just a little bit better. And I don't want to 433 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: do that by putting it in the show. I just 434 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: want people to have a good time watching it. I 435 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: want them to leave thinking about the human condition a 436 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: little bit more. As you can see, we've we've started 437 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: doing our part with helping with schools and so we've 438 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: got that covered. But if other people are inspired to go, 439 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: you know, help in any way they came to schools, 440 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: that's incredible. I love when people like just tell me, hey, 441 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: I made a donation today, or hey, I checked into 442 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: a meeting, a local meeting at because anyone can go 443 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: to these meetings for schools at you know, government meetings 444 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. All that makes me really happy. Um. And 445 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: other than that, i'd like a farm eventually. Oh so 446 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm working towards that nice farm. I'll live in la 447 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: and I'll live in the city and stuff. But one 448 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: day I want to retire and you will never see 449 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: me again. Why a farm? Why not a farm? Everything's 450 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: going to ship. I want to grow my own food. 451 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: I want to have a compound and uh, you know, 452 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: I have some animals, and so that's my plan. Well, acquinted. 453 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: It was a pleasure, and I just want to continue 454 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: to see you grow lovely, I hope. So it was. 455 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: I like, this was a wonderful experience. It's a long 456 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: change of perception to me. You hated me. I didn't 457 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: know what did you think of me? Coined fact. Don't 458 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: answer that. I don't want to you know what. I 459 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: don't want to know for my own compidence sake. Okay, Yes, 460 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you.