1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge, 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. No. 4 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and New He scrugs, 5 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: all right, everybody, it is that time Players Lounge on 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: a Friday. Danny McCray three three in a row. Wow, 7 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: it's like we've been doing the show for how many years? 8 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: I missed? I missed a few shows listening and Church 9 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: probably and you can't pair New Week were brought because 10 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: mine was consecutive. Church has been all sporadic, but they 11 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: ain't come. Yeah, I don't have to, but it's close enough. 12 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: It's close enough for you to not really be sure. 13 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: No matter where I'm at, if I'm not, if I'm here, 14 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing the show. Why if I'm a judge, I 15 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: would say I would have to look at the wreck. 16 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Mister mc craig, could you produce a record because we 17 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: need there have been absences a couple here, there a 18 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: sporadic and then I'll say this, Okay, when Danny was 19 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: at we knew it. It didn't have to sit to 20 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: twenty minutes before the show. That's how that's how y'all 21 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: gonna move you today? The night before why hotel dot 22 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: com that's where I got my away hotels dot com. 23 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: So hotels dot com knew he wasn't gonna be on 24 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the show with Thery, but but anyway, good to see it. 25 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a better show when you're here, Okay, 26 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: that's our way of showing you love. It's a better 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: Bury Church. And I like you here, So I'm so 28 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: glad to be back. Man, I'm I'm happy. I'm here 29 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: three weeks in a row, and we're gonna continue this 30 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: trend of me being here for absolutely. I used up 31 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: out my pto, all right, all my pto is gone, 32 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: so I'll be here until until it go over again. 33 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: In two cowboys are practicing right now. So it is 34 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: the final day of the OTAs or is Darren hambrig 35 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: once said, what do voluntary means? Voluntary mini camps? So 36 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: you don't have to be here, but they say, but 37 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: you need to be here. Oh yeah. And I have 38 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for the guys who come out 39 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: here because fans don't understand they're a lot of guys. Now, 40 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Dallas is a different place, but a lot of guys 41 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: who don't live in the towns they play. So when 42 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: you come in to do a voluntary m ota, you're 43 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: having to a lot of times come back into the 44 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: place where you are m spend time away from your family, 45 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: and you're not getting paid for. It's what you were 46 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: for free. Warren Moon spoke about that was one reason 47 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: why he decided to retire. He was playing his final 48 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: days in Kansas City and he's you know, I was 49 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: away from my family, so in order me to do 50 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: the voluntaries, and they wanted you there for the voluntaries, 51 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: you had to spend time away from your family. It 52 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: was voluntaries, Like I knew the offense, but but it's 53 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: what you had to do. So I don't think fans 54 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: always understand guys. Not a lot of guys always live 55 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: where they play full time, and when people are asking 56 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: you to come in for these voluntary, voluntary mini camps, 57 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: and sometimes it costs some of these guys money. And 58 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about not the big numb not not the 59 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Dacks of the world, but for guys who are you know, minimums, 60 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: minimum veteran guys or rookies. You know, these are things 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: that you these are expenses you can say you're investing 62 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: in yourself. But I think sometimes people lose sight of that. 63 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you know, I was one of those guys. 64 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I was able to well, I came, I lived in Dallas, 65 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: but I played out in Jacksonville, and I hate it. 66 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: I hated going back because I felt like, you know, 67 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: the offseason was just kicking off. Me and my wife 68 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: probably just got back from vacation. We're like, all right, 69 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: let's you know, let's hang out on Dallas, have a 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: good time. Well, those weeks ticked by fast. Next thing 71 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, I got to take a flight back to 72 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and all we're gonna do is sit there and 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: go over the defense that I already knew going into 74 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: the next season. So I just didn't like, you know, 75 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: going back and forth like that. Lucky for me, though, 76 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: my kids they weren't old enough to be in school, 77 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: so I didn't have to, you know, yank him out 78 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: of school or put them in school in Jacksonville and 79 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: take them out and put them somewhere in Dallas, so 80 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: they were able to just hop on with me. So 81 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: that was a lucky part, but overall, I just I 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: hate it going back and forth. If you were able 83 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: to stick with one organization, you know, for your entirety 84 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: of your career, you're lucky because there's only a few 85 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: of them that are able to do that. Because going 86 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: back and forth that that ain't it. That ain't it, 87 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: And I just didn't have a good time with it. Yeah, 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: the same here. I mean, when you think about Chicago 89 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: and you think about being able to go back and 90 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: enjoy what Chicago has to offer, Chicago practice is in 91 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: Lake Forest, Illinois. They don't practice in the actual city 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: of Chicago. Right, So not only are you having to 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: leave where I was at Houston at the time and 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: fly to Chicago, leave leave my now wife in family, 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: I would have to go to Lake Forest, which is 96 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: essentially a retirement community. So it's nothing out there. There's 97 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: a grocery store out there. I think it's a I 98 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: want to even say twin Peaks. I think it's like 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: a I don't know what. It's nothing out there for 100 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: you to do. So having to make that flight every 101 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: time every time, it sucked every time. But once you 102 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: get out there, of course it's football. But yeah, then 103 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: it calls you a pretty penny, right, because you got 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: to cass those flights and if the if the wife 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: want to come see you, or the family want to 106 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: come see you, now you gotta spend the extra dome. 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: It's it puts a lot on you. And that's one 108 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: reason why we do the players line right here, brought 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: to you by hotels dot Com. You guys give a 110 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: perspective to fans that they don't normally see a lot 111 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: of people just thinking, you know, Okay, yeah, you're a cowboy, 112 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: you live here. No, that's not the case. For special 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Ken emphasize it up, especially the young guys. You know, 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: we always want to think everyone thinks, oh, everybody's making 115 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: all these millions of ducks. You look at the Decks 116 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: and the Zekes and the Tyrant Smiths of the world, 117 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: and you believe that's how everybody is working and everybody's 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: making it. In the National Football League, that's just not 119 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: true at all. So final day of OTAs are actually 120 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: going on right now behind as they we're warming up, 121 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: as we're getting ready to start the show. The mandatory 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: mini camp is next week. Head coach Mike McCarthy says 123 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday. So mandatory. So these OTAs, 124 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: these organized team activities, these were voluntary, got to be 125 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: there next week or you face a fun so church, 126 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. What is it you get out 127 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: of a mandatory mini camp that you're not getting out 128 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: of the OTA? To me, I think the biggest difference 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: is basically just time, because in the OTAs, you're on 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: a strict schedule, because I think you only get You're 131 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: only there for maybe you know, two hours. You got 132 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: a couple of hours to or a couple of minutes 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: to meet and everything like that before practice. But when 134 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: you get to those mandatory mini camps, it is basically 135 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: like a training camp practice. You're up early in the morning, 136 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: you come in, you have your special teams meeting, you 137 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: have breakfast first, maybe get a lift in. Then you 138 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: have your special teams meetings. Then you go and those 139 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: special teams meetings are long, they're about forty five two 140 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: an hour. Then you go and do your team, your defense, 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: on your offense. You guys meet as a group, you 142 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: do that, then you break off an individual. It's just 143 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: meetings on top of meetings on top of meetings, and 144 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: then you go out there in practice, and the practices 145 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: are longer as well. I think they're about two and 146 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: a half hours, so they're a little bit longer than 147 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: your regular OTA practice. So you got all that and 148 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: then usually when you're done with OTAs, you might go 149 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: get a lift in or you might just go home. 150 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: After that, it's over OTAs. It's a rap. After that, 151 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: you might get a hot tub in or a sauna 152 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: or something like that to get your body right, but 153 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: it's over. But mandatory mini camp oh no, no, no, 154 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: you get got you got your lunch break right there. 155 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Then you're coming back. They through some more meetings. Now 156 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: you'll either watch the tape from practice or you'll go 157 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: break down something else. But you're watching meetings with either 158 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: your position group or as a whole defense or as 159 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: a whole offense. So that time it gets a lot 160 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: longer when you're going through your mandatory mini camps as 161 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: opposed to your OTAs, because you gotta be there and 162 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: a team can find you if you're not there. So 163 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: to meet biggest difference, it's just that time because you're 164 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: there for a much longer time. It's like your regular 165 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: season practice, like your training camp practice. Yeah, in the 166 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: piggyback off what Church said. I think it's I want 167 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: to call it a dress rehearsal for for how training 168 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: camp is going to go. But when you have guys 169 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: that have come from other teams or you have young 170 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: guys coming in, they actually get a visual and an 171 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: example of what training camp is going to be like, 172 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: because essentially this mandatory mini camp is the last time 173 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: that they will see you before you actually go step 174 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: on to the fielding Oxen RD and have to know 175 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: this schedule and know that you're going to be busy 176 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: from seven am to ten thirty pm. So it's really 177 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: them letting you know, like this is what to expect 178 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: the next time we see you, So go ahead and 179 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: get ready. The days are going to be long, they're 180 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: gonna be full, and it's gonna be football twenty four 181 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: hours a day and you and then it practices like 182 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you're going you get all the period, you get to 183 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: seven on sevens, the teams, the team runs, the team passes, 184 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: the two minute drills, and usually in OTAs, you know, 185 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: one day you'll do a team team drill here, the 186 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: next day you might do a set on seven here, 187 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: and you might do a two minute drill the last 188 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: day of that week for OTAs, but for Mini camp, 189 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: each day you're doing the full experience. Everything that's gonna 190 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: happen in training camp you're gonna see in mini camps. So, 191 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: like like Danny said, you know, the rookies are gonna 192 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: get a lot. They're gonna get introduced to how the 193 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: speed of the game really is when you get to 194 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: training camp. Players Lounge brought to you by Hotels dot 195 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Com and our SWBC Mortgage studios here at the store 196 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: in Frisco. So Dan Mike McCarthy said yesterday to the 197 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: media they've been working on installs and he'll finish the 198 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: installs next week. So explain to our fan base what 199 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: install means for offense, defense and special teams. Yeah, so, 200 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: so I'll just speak to it from defense because that's 201 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: where I came from, and special teams is kind of 202 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: the same. So each year is kind of like wash, 203 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: rent and repeat, right, So, because you have new people 204 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: coming in, you have new stuff that you want to 205 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: put in your playbook, or you might have new coaches 206 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: that need to figure out how this stuff is gonna work. 207 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: So each year you come in and you start with 208 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: the very basics of your of your defense and you 209 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: put that in cover one, Cover two, Cover three, and 210 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: you and you hammer at home just to make sure 211 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: that everybody has that, because if you aren't able to 212 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: run those type of defenses, as we saw last year, 213 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: then you aren't able to put in your blitzzes or 214 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: your zero coverages. You aren't able to add on to 215 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: what you what you want to do. So you start 216 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: with the basis one, cover two, Cover three, and every 217 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: day you add on something else. So when you're installing, 218 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: you're going football one on one, next day football one 219 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: h two, next day football one h three. And the 220 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: plan is that once you're done with training camp, you 221 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: have everything installed, so you have so many things that 222 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: you could pick from when when the game actually comes on, Yeah, 223 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: and it's like and like you said, you know from 224 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the first day's day, it's just Cover one. This is 225 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: your simple rules. You got this, dude, man and man. 226 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Cover three. Let's go over your basic rules for Cover three. 227 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Strong safety you got curl flat, the other the safeties 228 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, corners you got the 229 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: deep third. But as the as the days go on 230 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: in camp, like you said, you put a little variable 231 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: on each one. You know, if the offense comes out 232 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: in two by two, we're gonna check to this. If 233 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: they come out in three by one, we want you 234 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: to check to this. And that's basically how you go 235 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: about your installs. Like Danny said, each day it's just 236 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: a little bit different variable to that main defense that 237 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: cover one, Cover two or cover three. Each day after 238 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: that's just a little bit different, a little bit of 239 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: tweak here and there in adjustments to what the offense 240 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: and tell and then by the end of it, you're 241 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: calling the defense and then you're you're able to adjust 242 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: it on the fly, right because because the players are 243 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: all on the same page and they know so they 244 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: can look at the coach and the coach throws up 245 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: a sign and now you know exactly what to do. 246 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: But before that happens, you're not able to do that. Okay, 247 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: So you're a free agent out of LSU, you're free 248 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: agent out of Toledo. What was different about the Cowboys 249 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: defense for you and what you had to learn going 250 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: through your OTA and your mini camp before you got 251 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: to your first training camp day? Man, for me, it 252 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: was everything was different because I played under Bopolini and 253 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: we ran a lot of Cover four, a lot of zone. 254 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: And then when I got here in Waye Phillips, here 255 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: we were running man to man and we were passing 256 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: off stuff. We were figuring out, figuring out a little 257 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: bit of zone. But it was nothing like we did 258 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: in college. So for me, it was like learning something 259 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: entirely different. And then I was playing dime at that time, 260 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: so now I was trying to figure out how to 261 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: line up in the linebacker position, you know, fiel the 262 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: A gap and feel the D gap and also cover 263 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: the tight end. So it was totally totally new for me. Yeah, 264 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: and for me it was basically like the same with you. Man, 265 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: it was because in Toledo it was just like, all right, 266 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: you're playing man to man. Here's there's cover three. There's 267 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: no there's no little variant. So there's no fire zone. 268 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: Blitz is where you're blitzing usually if you blitzing your 269 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: man the man behind it. But in the league and NFL, 270 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: there's like fire zones where you're blitzing, but you're playing 271 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: zone behind it. So like it's just like a Matt 272 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: zone concept. And it was just very very hard as 273 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: a safety because you gotta know your job but as well, 274 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: you gotta be the quarterback back there, and you gotta 275 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: show that the coaches that you know, you know what 276 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: you're doing. You know how to check things here and there, 277 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: you know how to play defenses. And as a rookie, 278 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: when you're going out there with other bunch of rookies, 279 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you know, you know, you know 280 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: what hits the fan because you know the offense is 281 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: commotion in here and motioning there, and as a rookie, 282 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: your head spinning because you're trying to figure out, all right, 283 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: this is what I gotta do. I gotta make sure 284 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: my job is hit at one hundred percent in order 285 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: to make this team. But if your other partners ain't 286 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: doing their job, you're all gonna look crazy. So you 287 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: gotta be as a rookie safety especially out to be 288 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: in tune of that playbook and in tune with what 289 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: your jobs as well as everybody else is, or you 290 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: guys are all going to look crazy out there. So 291 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: that was a hard part as a rookie, just knowing 292 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: the playbook and being able to be a quarterback back. 293 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: But at safety too, you gotta remember, like you said, 294 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: that one motion if you know So if you know 295 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: your job pre snap, right, you see the formation they 296 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: come out in three by one, this is my job. 297 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Now number three motions across and you have to switch 298 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: jobs with the linebacker. So now you don't know the 299 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: linebacker's job, then you have no idea what's going on. 300 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: So just one person moving on the field can change 301 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: everything for a defense. So that's why you see a 302 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: lot of miscommunications sometimes or you see blong coverages because 303 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: one person may be off, they may not understand what 304 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: they're doing or they're not on the same page with 305 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: a simple motion or a check, and then you get 306 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: somebody you know running behind the defense for a touchdown. 307 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: And as a safety, you also got to know because 308 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: like you said, they're gonna move you down to dime 309 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: because that's where the league is going now. It's going 310 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: to a pass offense. So they're gonna bring as many 311 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: skilled players or cover players as they can on the field. 312 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: And with dime, you know, that's just a one linebacker 313 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: and you got about five dbs out there, so it's 314 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: a safe the you're not the only got to worry about. 315 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: You know. What you got is your responsibility on the 316 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: deep end. But when you come to down. You're a linebacker, 317 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: so you got the run. The run fits and that 318 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: that's what blew my mind as a safety, wasn't It 319 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: wasn't really like calling plays back there. It was the 320 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: run fits. Like if this guard pulls here, you got 321 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: to be able to check one gap over to make 322 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: sure that guy over, that linebacker on a strong side 323 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: is gonna hammer them. So you got to be next 324 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: in line. The hammer. It's just wild. It's a lot 325 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: because if you miss one hammer or you spill which 326 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: meaning you spilled up, you know, the running back goes 327 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: further outside, or if you hammer making them go inside. 328 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: If you mess that up, you can mess the whole 329 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: integrity of the defense up. And then that and on 330 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Baronelli and all his you know, all his defensive film 331 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: you can see and like, that's that's what happened to 332 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: the defense. That's who mess it up. So it's a 333 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: lot of pressure for a young cat out there. For sure. 334 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: This is educational, man. That's why I love asking you 335 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: guys a questions about this because these are the things 336 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: that I want the folks who tune in to the 337 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: show to have a little bit better understanding of. Because 338 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: we talk about so much about just the the overall things, 339 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: but there's these little little things doesn't matter. And my 340 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: next question is when you're confused, because obviously say, hey, 341 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't know this. Who do you go to? Do 342 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: you go to your position coach? If you're a linebacker, 343 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: do you tapp into somebody like Kean O'Neil, you know, 344 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: if you're safety you go and you're tapp into somebody 345 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: like Kazy who knows? Where do you go? If you're 346 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Jail Coxon, where do you go? That's tough 347 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: now for Michael Parsons because are we talking about like 348 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: right after the play are we talking about like man 349 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: throughout the practice? You know, practice is done, you know 350 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: you've soaked it all in, and then that other part 351 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: of the guy like Parsons. You you know, I would 352 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: say you'd ask Neil, But these are people's jobs you're 353 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: trying to take. Well, yeah, if it's Parsons, you know, 354 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: usually you go ask Sean Lee um. So, so they 355 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: have to figure out who that person is, if it's 356 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: going to be l v or Jaylen Smith. But I 357 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: would start with asking one of the veterans to show 358 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: me how they study take man, how they remember. And 359 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: then if that doesn't work, then you got to go 360 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: to your position coach because he has to know that 361 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: you're not picking it up as fast as you can, 362 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: so he's not putting you in situations that he thinks 363 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: you that you should be successful in and you're not 364 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: because he has no idea you you're not picking up 365 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: on what he's trying to teach. So you gotta let 366 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: everybody know so they can all help you. If you 367 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: don't like say you you know, that's your job on 368 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: the line. So and that's the that's the biggest thing 369 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: that the the young rookies makes a mistake is they 370 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: go out there thinking if if, if, if I don't 371 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. You know, in the coaches they 372 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: see they don't know what I'm doing. Man, it's a struggle. 373 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: It's going to be a whole bust. But you don't 374 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: want to go and tell your coach because then you think, oh, man, 375 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna think I'm not you know, not studying, I'm 376 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: not in my playbook like that. And then like you said, 377 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: the veterans out here, I mean they're fighting for their 378 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: jobs as well. So I mean you're gonna tell them 379 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: how to go, But are you gonna give them all 380 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: the ins and out to the situation. I don't know. 381 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean, as me as a veteran, I wouldn't. But 382 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: that's just me. That's crazy. Church has some great veterans 383 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: that he was able to learn from that didn't take it. 384 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: They were like, hey man, listen, if you want to 385 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: know how to do it, then we'll teach you how 386 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: to do it. And if you mess it up and 387 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: we think that the play call is wrong, we're gonna 388 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: have your back forward. But see, I know why they 389 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: did that because they didn't think I wasn't like you. 390 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm still gonna get drill sense the ball 391 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: he's created because he helped me out more than more 392 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: than he ever would know. And I'm not sure if 393 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: he had the same thing with Church, but as far 394 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: as he'll being a leader in that dB locker room, 395 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: he did as much as he could to make sure 396 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: that we were team building that was and he had 397 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: our backs when when he thought something was wrong, he 398 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: would step up and lets the coaches know, hey man, 399 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: that's not right. You're not putting them in a reposition 400 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: to be successful. Great Tar Hills to man, that's a 401 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: great talk. Okay, he was afterely a good leader. He 402 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: lets let's hit a break here. 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All right, that is Danny mccraig for 450 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Safety, Barry Church form Dallas Cowboys Safety and 451 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: new restructs, just a Cowboys reporter and me winner And 452 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: this is the players launch about you by Hotels dot Com. 453 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: All right, they are on the practice field right now 454 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: here at the Star in Frisco. And it's the final 455 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: voluntary mandatory. You understand all day long. It says voluntary, 456 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: But you getting side eyes if you are not there, 457 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: side eyes if you if you ain't hide enough on 458 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: the roster, you're not getting no out me at home. 459 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: Ain't nil that nail that out, don't even come back last. 460 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: We got somebody else for you, you know. And I'm 461 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: not comparing myself self at all to a pro player, 462 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: but even when I was in high school, it felt 463 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: like the off season. Non man, it felt mandatory because 464 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: you have people are looking at you. They're your teammate. 465 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: Where are you at? And I remember the coaches asking, Hey, 466 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: where a so so at? So you all need to 467 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: call him? Man, I'm working my summer job here. I'm 468 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: trying to get paid. What you mean summer job? Right? Right? Then? Coaches, 469 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: like high school, you know, nobody was recruiting me. I 470 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: quickly found out when I went to Appalachian State. I 471 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: was there on a debate camp. So I started to 472 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: swinging by the football office. Hey, it's called somebody missed 473 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: a letter. But anyway, how my mom should be tying 474 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: up the line. I know y'all probably call it was 475 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: busy and I think it was Stan Hickson. I want 476 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: to say it was brother Stan Hickson. He says, you know, 477 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: since you play lineman linebacker. Okay, how tall are you? Folks? 478 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: Said dad? Dad? About five eight moms five foot He 479 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: looked at me, saying, so you're about done growing, which 480 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: was his kind way of saying thank you. Uh no, debate, 481 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know what. I showed up and walked 482 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: myself right on back down and said, this is the 483 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: what they said in the Mandalorian. This is the way. 484 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: This is the way. Yes, yes, exactly, speech to debate. 485 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: That was the way. And the other thing I noticed 486 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: applite to state was that the only black folks that 487 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: I saw that summer were involved in athletics. Well, well, 488 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: the school in the mountains and Dexter Cokeley ended up 489 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: going to. But actually pretty good though pretty good man, 490 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: Look look many they are a powerhouse. And this was 491 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: years before that, but yeah, it was. It was very 492 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: It was very That was what I told myself to 493 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, where are you at. I'm doing what I 494 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: need to do. I'll see you all that and thetory 495 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: I'm not going on because I'm not trying to lie 496 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: to us in high school about scholars. Ain't nobody recruit me, 497 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: no scholar, nobody. I was the center. Antybody recruit me 498 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: to play center nowhere. I'm too slow to be a 499 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: linebacker the next level. But I'm trying to sit up here, 500 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: Pete as these hot these lines and got about it. 501 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: And you know what this thing is? Now? Is they 502 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: telling these They telling bigger lines than ain't of these kids? Like, 503 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: what are we doing? Stop to stop this? Kids? Ain't 504 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: going on? I get you the league, I say, guys, 505 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: to the league, there's this one. And I'm not gonna 506 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: name this place. So there's a little right in my 507 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: neighborhood that somebody opened up on these little gyms. I'll 508 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: tell y'all them O. The name of it is good, Okay, 509 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: it's a catching name. And I see all these kids 510 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: in here working out these you know, these junior high kids, 511 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just laughing them. Man, all they've done is 512 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: taking daddy's disposable income and him thinking that junior and 513 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: his daughter gonna be d one happening. He wasting your cash. 514 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: But it's a rocket now. Man. If people are making 515 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: their money off of should he should league. If you're free, 516 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: you come, Holliday up. We show you the path. All right, 517 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: All right, position battles going into training camp. I'll start 518 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: with you, start with me. I'll start with what do 519 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: you look? I got my eye on one battle, one 520 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: battle I think that's gonna take control of the whole 521 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: of all the other battles that look, this is the 522 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: one that's gonna be it, and that's that tight end position. 523 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: You got Blake Jarwin coming back from an ACL He's 524 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: under contract, We paid him a bunch of money. He 525 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: got hurt, unfortunately got hurt, but he's coming back. He's 526 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: supposed to be this mismatched nightmare. He's supposed to be 527 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: the guy. We haven't had a guy threatened to scenes 528 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: like this guy's supposed to be able to and who 529 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: knows how long, maybe since Jay Novcheck because Witten wasn't 530 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: threatening those scenes. But this is a guy right here 531 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: who's DA's already said is the most athletic guy on 532 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: the team. He's supposed to be a mismatched nightmare. Agants, linebackers, corners, safeties, 533 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: whoever you want to throw out there on him. He 534 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: can beat him on one on ones and I think 535 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: he can add a different dimension to this offense. But 536 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: you also got Dalton Shoaltz over there, who, in my opinion, 537 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: he had kind of a breakout year last year for 538 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: for himself. You know, he came in there, nobody expected 539 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: pretty much anything from him. You know, oh man, we 540 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: lost dal Or Blake Jarwin. What are we're gonna do? Now? 541 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: You didn't, I didn't. You're right, you're right, you're right. 542 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: I didn't expect anything from Dalton Shots, but he came 543 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: through and he proved me wrong. He went out there, 544 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: he was able to win his one on ones versus 545 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: linebackers safeties, had a couple of touchdowns, and he was 546 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: good after the catch, a lot better than I thought 547 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: he would be after the catch. He had a little 548 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: bit of speed there. So meet for me, that's gonna 549 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: be an interesting decision there because I don't see with 550 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: all these receivers. I see them being in an eleven 551 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: personnel a lot, and that means they're just gonna be 552 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: one tight end on the field. It's gonna be interesting 553 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: how they're gonna div you up the plays here. But 554 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: you know, I don't see Dalton Shots just giving his 555 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: job the jar one. So to me, that's gonna be 556 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: one of the biggest battles coming up here in this camp. Yeah, well, 557 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: we all, I think we can all agree that the 558 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: linebacker position is uh, it's gonna be one. So I'm 559 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: not even gonna mention, but I think the actual the cornerbacks. 560 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: I think the nickel in the in the right corner spot. 561 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a battle to watch because 562 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: we haven't really seen Kelvin Joseph. But I think the 563 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: man can play, all right. I think he can play. 564 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: We'll be able to see it and the coaches are 565 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: going to want to see if he's able to play. 566 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: So you got Anthony Brown and you got Jordan Lewis, 567 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: So you got three guys for two spots. So we 568 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: got to see which one of those rods to the 569 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: top and they're able to take over that right cornerback position. 570 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: And who's gonna be be the slot one of those 571 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: guys that are going to be missing out. I got 572 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: a question, and I know y'all just a little bit 573 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: off subject. Y'all saw the catch yesterday from Ceedee Lamb. 574 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure y'all saw the cat. That's my problem 575 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: with the nickel body types that we have with the Cowboys, 576 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: And that was Anthony Brown on it and Ceede Lamb's 577 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: not maga, he's not no, we're near DK metcal nothing 578 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: and he went up to rise the bove them got 579 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: the ball easily and kind of shielded them all. That's 580 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: my problem with the with the body types. We have 581 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: that corner here outside of Diggs, we don't have any height, 582 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: we don't have any size. We might be able to 583 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: defend all that quick stuff underneath, but when it goes deep, 584 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: I'm concerned about it. But you know, we'll get back 585 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: to the training camp. That's that's that's gonna be a battle. 586 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a battle to see if if if 587 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Quinn has those guys who can make those plays. They 588 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: obviously believe in them, some some types of they see something. 589 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: So you know, with his experience and having those corners 590 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: and being able to bring guys in that that could 591 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: make those plays, you know, I'm getting a benefit of 592 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: the doult because you know, I'm all in on Quinn. 593 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: So I think I think that I think I think 594 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: that that that cornerback position because I think Diggs has 595 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: that his position locked up. But I think those other 596 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: three guys, that's gonna be a battle to pay attention to. 597 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: When you bring that up. The first thing kims in 598 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: my head, like the schedule, Boom, Tampa Bay, Mike Evans, 599 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: Big Godwin, big receivers, and I'm just sitting there think 600 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know, I'm not gonna say these 601 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: guys can't do it, because you know, I've seen you know, 602 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: smaller corners still go out there and be dogs out 603 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: there on the outside. But it's I mean, we got 604 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: a lot of corners with that same body type. It's 605 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: gonna be difficult, all right. For me, I'm gonna go 606 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: right to what I thought. The essence of the whole 607 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys problem was last year run game. Defensively, 608 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: they were thirty first against the run. They were basically 609 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: last until that last month of the season where they 610 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: got to play some dogs and ended up getting bumped 611 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: up to thirty one. So for me, I got to 612 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: look at these defensive tackles. Who is going to stop 613 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: the run? What's one way you can help your defensive 614 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: backs put some pressure? This is true, you know this. 615 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: Warren Sap used to say it, and I just keep 616 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: saying it again and again. The back don't work without 617 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: the front. If you want to help you defensive backs, 618 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: figure out how to get better upfront. So you know, 619 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: Quentin Bohannon, a big boy from Kittalking, you know the 620 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: three forty three fifty, big boy right there up in 621 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: the middle. So you got him, Nevin Galliboor, Justin Hamilton, 622 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, kid from Ucla, OSA. You know these are 623 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the guys I'm going to be looking at to say, 624 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: what can you do to help stop the run? Once again? 625 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Started looking on here these teams, you get ready to 626 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: play here, there's some folks that are gonna come out 627 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: here and try and run the football. When you see 628 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, okay four and that out there. Um no, 629 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: don't forget about the actual starter for Tampa Bay. He's 630 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: a dog, a local local kid, Ronald Joe. So you've 631 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: got him. Um, you got to charge. You got Philadelphia 632 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: with the uh the miles with name Sanders, you got 633 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: said you got run cmc um, you got say quon twice. 634 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: Minnesota's got Dalvin Cook, Baba Gibson did to us. You 635 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: know Washington's running back right, So so I mean you 636 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: look on the schedule here, man, there's there's some running 637 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: backs coming your way. So for me, this run defense, 638 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: you've got to stop it. And too many times what 639 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: we saw this defense was on the field so long. 640 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: This is true, and they were just sworn down. And 641 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: I know it's popular to try to talk about. You know, 642 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: it was the twenty four thirty four touchdown passes that 643 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: gave up last year from the defensive backfield stampoot. But 644 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: if you're not putting any pressure and if it's just 645 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: easy to run, then it's going to be tough for 646 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And then you take these long drives defenses 647 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: out there. So now you're coming back, you're asking Dak 648 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: Prescott in the offense not only to score, but to 649 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: score quickly. So for me, the defensive tackles are going 650 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: to be where I'm looking at it. Who's going to 651 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: step up and try to stop the run? Tristan Hill's 652 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: coming off at acl you guys know, um, these are 653 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: we assume they're going to be right back. And this 654 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: is nothing against to look at the training staff, but 655 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: everybody's body is just different. Everybody's body responds differently. And 656 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: did you be in a car wreck upfront like that? Um, 657 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: let's see where Tristan Hill is. I just don't think 658 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: everybody should just assume he's gonna come back and be 659 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: where he was last year. Where I'm just saying, when 660 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: you when you say that, are we what are we 661 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: expecting him to get to like he was a starter. 662 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: He was a starter last year. So speaking of what 663 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: the defensive linement was word last year was Yeah. I'm 664 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: saying so because I might ask search, is Neville Gallimore 665 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: going to be a starter? Yes, once we get to 666 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: week one, he'll be. He'll be a starter. He needs 667 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: to take that that that next jump, which I think 668 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: he can. I think he was on the way last 669 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: year as a season progressed. He seemed to get better 670 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: and better um and he was able to kind of 671 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: keep those linemen off of our linebackers for the most 672 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: part when they're we're talking about on his side and 673 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: he's able to you know, create a kind of a 674 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: push right there. We know he's good against the run. 675 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: The thing I think he just needs to tweak a 676 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: little bit is able to get more pass rush to 677 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: his to his arsenal. If he's able to do that, 678 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: I think he can be a you know, an upgrade 679 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: at the defensive tackle. So stay right there, because there 680 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: was another thing we spoke about is is your what 681 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: offense have been Defensive players must step up. And for me, 682 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: when I look at defensively, Nevin Gallimore is that guy 683 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm already talking about they've got to get better up front, 684 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: and Gallimore's the guy that I'm going to look to, um, 685 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, the last year's third round pick, to say 686 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: this is a player that needs to take another step 687 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: up and can help this defense. If he can do that, 688 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: then you have Layton band Esh, Jalen Smith, Micah Parsons, 689 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: Jabrill Cox being able to operate differently any last year. 690 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, as much as people have gotten all the linebackers, 691 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: let's be honest, man, you had guards sinners running up 692 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: on these dudlers pounds quick quick. One of the things 693 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: about Ray lewis when you and you wanted to beat 694 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens, if you could get second level guys on him, 695 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: then you could take him out. Because Ray's not He 696 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: wasn't the biggest guy for a linebacker. So if you 697 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: could get your second level, getting him second level with 698 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: your offensive line mean, then you were able to really 699 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of affect what they were trying to do. That's 700 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: why they had Tony, Sarah Goosa and Sam Adams, those 701 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: big guys up there to let Ray operate. The Cowboys 702 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: didn't have that. So as as people beating up the 703 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: linebackers last year for poor play. Also give them the 704 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt for the standpoint and understand they 705 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: ain't get any help anyway. The fans game some some 706 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: different and what do we see because this like the 707 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland game and Washington were just gonna beat you. And 708 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: people will set career high every week. You know, guy 709 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: having a career day, like what start them on your 710 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: fantasy team, fantasy you know he started, had to running 711 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: back start them and if you had the top receiver, 712 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: start them. Terrible Cowboys. Just we pencil themen a line. 713 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: It was rough, but that's what that D line they 714 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: gotta do this year. I think they gotta. They gotta 715 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: take advantage of their one on one opportunities. I mean 716 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: last year there was too many times where they were 717 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: just stalemated on a one on one block and the 718 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: quarterback had all day back there to pick apart our defense. 719 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: Um not saying our secondary is the greatest. You know, 720 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: we've seen that, But we gotta give him some type 721 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: of chance. So a little bit of help and you 722 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: got d law. He's getting double team, he's gonna get chips, 723 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna get hit out of linebacker. The running back 724 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: is going to be focused on him coming through. So 725 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: these other guys, Gallimore, Tristan Hill, whoever steps up um 726 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: and outside of of of Gallim were over there in 727 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: the other defensive tackle spot and Randy Gregory, they gotta 728 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: take advantage of their one on ones just to give 729 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of help to that secondary. So Galliman 730 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: was a white defensive player, needs to step up. What 731 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: about you. It's gonna sound crazy, but I'm gonna say 732 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: Jaylen Smith. I think Jaylen Smith, with the number change 733 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: and all the hype around him and all the negativity 734 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: around him, I think if he steps up to play 735 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: how he did two years ago when him and LV 736 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: were looking at looked at as being one of the 737 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: one of the top linebacking corps in the league. If 738 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: he steps up to play that way and they're able 739 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: to use him, you know, to rush off the edge 740 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: ury once in a while, you know, run sideline of 741 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: sideline and make those type of tackles, I think they'll 742 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: be Okay. He needs to step up because he changed 743 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: his number, a lot of pressure on he put some 744 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: pressure on this. Yeah, I want I want the man 745 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: to do good, So I'm going to give him that. 746 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: He needs to step up and play like the guy 747 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: that he says he is. Watch the film. That's true. 748 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: That's true. And for me, defensively, I'm gonna go with 749 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: you this on this New year. I think I'm gonna 750 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: go on the defensive line as well, but I'm gonna 751 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: go Randy Gregory on this one because I think this 752 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: guy can have a breakout year and I think he 753 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: can be one of those premier defensive players, especially if 754 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: he's opposite Tank Lawrence. If he's able to get those 755 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: one on ones and start beating these one on ones 756 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, I think this guy can be 757 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: a havoc throughout the league. I mean we saw throughout 758 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks at the season. I mean 759 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: even he had, you know, three forced fumbles in one game. 760 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: The guy was causing havoc in the run and the past. 761 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: He has that type of ability to bend and get 762 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: a round offensive tackles that's unique. And he has speed 763 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: as well to get off the edge. So I just 764 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: think this guy is a freak athletically, and I think 765 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: he can he can benefit off of playing out opposite 766 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence and he can he can if he 767 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: can step up he can be one of these guys. 768 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: I know what knew he wanted. He wanted to hear 769 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: what he wanted to hear. Tank Lawrence. No, but no, 770 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: that wasn't that what that was? You know, It's not 771 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: like he was not healthy last year. We all know 772 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: the year he had the year before. So I'm just 773 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, the man's gonna be healthy. So I'm gonna 774 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: leave him off my list as people gave you. So 775 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, his play is it's 776 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: been adequate, but his place, the play at the defensive 777 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: tackle spot has been inadequate. I mean, this was below average. 778 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: This was bad. And if Tank, if Tank has a 779 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, it won't matter because they just go run 780 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: up the middle. And so so that's why he's not 781 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: on my list. What about offense? Okay, offensive player who 782 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: must go ahead and step up for Tyren Smith. Yeah, 783 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not only does he need to be healthy, 784 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: he needs to turn back the hands of time at 785 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: least three to four years to where people feared him. 786 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: Where that punch when you came off his side was like, 787 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: if he get his hand on me, he's done. You know, 788 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of mental errors coming out of 789 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: Tyren Smith, a lot of holding calls, you know, some 790 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: things that you don't usually see from him. So I 791 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: think if if he's able to tidy some of that 792 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: stuff up and he's able to stay healthy, I think 793 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: we got a real, real, real shot of our offensive line. 794 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: But if not, you know, you know what I think. Uh, look, 795 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: you know it's tiring. Number one and then one A 796 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: is our guy Lell Collins. Yeah, these offensive linemen have 797 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: to be back. Here's what Tyred Smith ended up saying, UM, cool, 798 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: honestly feeling great. Finally got the next fixed, and I 799 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: think that kind of connected to everything with the back. 800 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad I finally got it fixed after all these years. 801 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: So Tyrant has been played with injuries since twenty sixteen, 802 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: but last year, um, you know that that next surgery 803 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: cost him fourteen football games. So we're all in agreement 804 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: right there. Are our cowboy player on offense that must 805 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: step up, is Tyrant. That's the type of statement right 806 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: there to get you in trouble though, because all of 807 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: a sudden, you now you finally got it fixed, all 808 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: right now, So what you know, I'm not even gonna 809 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: I hope the man stay healthy. But you know, I'm no, 810 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: I'm no dummy when it comes to uh people start 811 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: type of injuries. Age and the position that you're playing 812 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: is really really tough to avoid having those same type 813 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: of injuries again. Okay, um, oh, gott take a break. 814 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: I'll take a break. I want to get into Well, 815 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: the NBA's a different sport. 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Ain't you talking about Flip flop. I'm not mad. 867 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: He's glad to see the rockets. I'm right to see 868 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: the family got back rockets. What type of goodies is Toledo? 869 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: Then you come out in with it when you when 870 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: you describe what's in a Toledo goodie bag, look like 871 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: what what's it? Ain't got the bread of the sec 872 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: the big tan and all that. I just want to 873 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: know what's in there about take some shorts. T you 874 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: changed his whole perception because he ain't he tried to 875 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: play the first I wouldn't. I want to know what 876 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: they put it was a stack of money so that 877 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: they give you something to change in mind? What was 878 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: it this say? I'm just asking what the goody bag got? 879 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: Player players coming back, you know, just dropping stacks on 880 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: the field and got that only that guy you're supposed 881 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: to be, the guy at the Toledo game, at the boat. 882 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: Stop stopping people. Stop. We know we can google them. 883 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: Let me side note though, they're trying to redo the 884 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: whole downtown Jacksonville, and they got a whole new thing. 885 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm not even yeah, man, they gonna win you back, nah' 886 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: no matter when they can put a billion dollars into 887 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 1: that nine. You'll never see anything on my flight Tenera 888 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: that says Jacksonville, back off for helping your boy out 889 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: though you know that. So we were preparing for the 890 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: show and on the show notes, the topic came up 891 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: of trading linebacker Layton vandersh Church. I will start with 892 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: you on this top. If you're asking me right now, 893 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: like specifically, you know, this moment in time, right now, 894 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no, but only because I don't know 895 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: what I have in the youngsters. If Parsons goes out 896 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: there in training camp once we get these pads on preseason, 897 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: he's out there popping, and he has a kind of 898 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: has a controller defense as far as he knows what 899 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: his responsibility is. He can make checks and that and 900 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: all that other stuff, and in cots he is able 901 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: to come in here and do what he does. He's 902 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: able to show up in the run game, not only 903 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: against the coverage, but in the run game as well. Yeah, 904 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: I would have no problem with it. You know, I 905 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: would say, hey, you know why, you know, we appreciate 906 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: your service. We're gonna let you go this other place, 907 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, get some picks for him something, because that's 908 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: the only thing to me, that's that's holding it back, 909 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: is they don't know what they have in Parsons and 910 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: in Cox and all the young linebackers. Because if you 911 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: go that route, one is a cheaper route because you're 912 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to if you if you bring Vandura's back 913 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to pay him a new contract whatever, 914 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: it's a cheaper route, and it's a healthier route. I mean, 915 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: when we've seen Parsons he rarely missed at Penn State. 916 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: Lve nothing against him but that that rookie year, he 917 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: was a beast. When he's healthy, he is a beast. 918 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: I will give him that. But when's the last time 919 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: he was healthy. I mean he has you know, neck 920 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: collarbone issuees here and there. He's just not been that 921 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: same lineback he was two years ago. So for me 922 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: as of right now, I wouldn't. But going forward, if 923 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: Cox and if Parsons are the linebackers I think they 924 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: can be, I would have no problem with it, no 925 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: problem at all. So this is this is last year 926 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: on his deal, right they didn't pick up his fifth 927 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: year at trade trade him, get something for him. If 928 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: somebody is going to give you something for LV right now, 929 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: I would trade him get something from one. Like you said, 930 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: we are not sure if this dude is going to 931 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: be healthy or not, so essentially you're losing for nothing 932 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: and he might not even play this year exactly. M 933 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: And then you do got some young guys who you 934 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: want to get get some pictures of. So if you're 935 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: really going to buy into Jaylen Smith, get LV out 936 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: of here, let it be Parsons and let it be 937 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: Jaaln Smith, who are gonna be your starters in the 938 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: Nickel package. And then, uh, I'm going to assume that 939 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: Cox can play this because he want so. Give him, 940 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: give them, give him, give him a shot, you know, 941 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: to get out there, but unmuddy the linebacker room a 942 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: little bit and get something for LV, because after this 943 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: year it's nothing. You just him something. If you have 944 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 1: somebody willing to give up something that's worked it for Helvy, 945 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: absolutely trade him out of And I would trade him 946 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: before like you know, like if we see in training 947 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: camp that they're doing work, these young cats, I would 948 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: trade him before it because if he goes out there 949 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: and he starts bawling out, you know what we're gonna 950 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: do now? This week five and boy tackles or something. 951 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: It's like, man, we were gonna do now so health 952 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: health as well. They say health as wealth as well, Bro. 953 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: And when you ain't got that and you can, you 954 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: can get something forward and sending that hurt person on 955 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: somewhere else. Let me quote lead Corso here we go. 956 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: Not so fast, not so fast. I understand the thought 957 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: process about the rookies and what you hope they could be. 958 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to something that Barry pointed out 959 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: to me that his staying in my mind. And this 960 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 1: was about the schedule after the October twenty fourth bye week, 961 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 1: eleven straight football game. It's a lot of weeks. Okay, 962 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, Bro Cox, he Playleton games last year. Nobody 963 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,760 Speaker 1: calls football play Lemon games last year. Michael Parsons didn't 964 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: play last year. So I'm looking and sit to and 965 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about now a seventeen game regular season. Here, 966 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: give me some depth. If this Cowboy team is going 967 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: to be what many people think they are, that this 968 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: is a team that could win the East. I would 969 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: want to have a veteran in Layton Vanderesh who is 970 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: playing for his football career here, so he will actually 971 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: be playing in your ideal site. What if he's going 972 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: to be out playing after playing, what do you do 973 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: with you like he's on the bench. Okay, this is 974 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: this is a very good question. If it gets the 975 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: point that a Micah Parsons is out playing him and Coxon. 976 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: You're putting these guys out on the football field with 977 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: the way and you're talking about the seventeen game regular season, 978 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: and he's still a decent serviceable player. Trade that line 979 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 1: I got to imagine they're going to be some people 980 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: out there who would need a linebacker. Or if you 981 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: keep him and he ends up signing a contract and 982 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: you get a comp pick for him, I'll take compick. 983 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: But I if i'm if I'm Dan Quinn and Mike McCarthy, 984 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: I want a veteran football player who is playing for 985 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: his life and Jalen Smith is in the same position. 986 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: They are playing for their football lives. Here, you guys 987 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: can tell can speak to this more so than me. 988 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: Aren't guys a little bit better when they're playing for 989 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: that money? Yeah, but it's not his skill that worries though. 990 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: Of course, Hell the hell he can. He can play 991 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 1: as hard as he wants. Okay, but if he's hurt, 992 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: has nothing to do. How bad he wants to contract 993 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: A guy who got so salty every time he asked 994 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: about his health was DeMarco Murray and even his last year. 995 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: Remember he hurt his hand. Yeah, kept on balling in 996 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: a final year. You're right, he hurt his neck. He 997 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: wasn't out trying to have The injuries that laden has 998 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: head as a as a linebacker are much different what 999 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: DeMarco was facing when he was in his I'm not 1000 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: going to disagree with you, but I'm merely coming back 1001 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: to the fact that your livelihood, your career is on 1002 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: the line here. You are now playing for thirty one 1003 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: other NFL teams. So I think whether you hurt, whether 1004 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: you go, it's gonna be. You know you're gonna go 1005 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: out here and lay it down on the line. You 1006 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: guys know because you've seen it. But but we listen. 1007 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: But we've never had a doubt that LV was gonna 1008 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: lay it out on the line when he wasn't playing 1009 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: for us, for for his life on the line. Last year, 1010 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: we just had a chance to play in the playoffs. 1011 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: The man came back from injuries, said he should sit 1012 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: out for the rest of the season. The man came 1013 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: back out there after having it was it was another 1014 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: neck injury. I'm not trade the man the next Pittsburgh 1015 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: is interested in them. You gotta risk. I think I 1016 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: read that somewhere in Pittsburgh. Maybe get out of here. 1017 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: Can I tell you I don't get so he's not 1018 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: even play like when I hear that. And this is 1019 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: something man, I told you other day. These whole rulers 1020 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: and somebody's I mean somebody to do well what they're 1021 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: interested and giving up a one for Juleo Jones. If 1022 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: somebody's interested, you better believe the GM would have made 1023 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: them take it sold. Somebody will take La and take 1024 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: him at what Hey, here's a six A six. I 1025 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: don't know about it. Sall tell you, Okay, man got 1026 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: a bad nick and a bad collabone now like Mike 1027 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: linebacker and you play linebacker here. So if I'm dan Quinn, 1028 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: you know why I want to keep him because I'm 1029 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: trying to get myself another head coaching job. Jerry Jones 1030 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: and Steven you why I'm trying to keep him. I'm 1031 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: trying to get to the playoffs. I'm trying to have 1032 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to have as many good football players in 1033 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: a seventeen game season as possible. So I'm going to 1034 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: roll with late Van Drash. Let me tell you something 1035 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: I know for a fact that dan Quinn and his 1036 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: career has played with I mean some coach, some guys 1037 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: who are still out there, some linebackers who still had 1038 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: the ability to come in and play and know his 1039 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 1: system if LV is not here. So I don't think 1040 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: dan Quinn is lacking for people that he has on 1041 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: his waiting list. Say hey, man, hey, we need you 1042 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: to come just provide us with some depth if these 1043 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 1: young guys aren't able to make it past week twelve 1044 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: and we just need somebody to fill in. Because that's 1045 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: not what you're saying about ILV. He possibly be sitting 1046 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: on the sideline being one of them guys who are 1047 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,280 Speaker 1: you're just waiting waiting for with it was it street clothes, 1048 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: Strell street clothes? So would you would you give them 1049 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: up now? Not knowing what the young boys can do? 1050 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: The pads on, Yeah, I'm on Napat. I'm like, I 1051 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: don't think i'll train him right now. I think both 1052 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: of y'all know how I feel about these injuries. Okay, 1053 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about tires and his neck 1054 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: and his back as I do about l V the 1055 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: same way we felt last year, and we was like, man, 1056 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: this dude got a bad nick. That's something that you 1057 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 1: just barely. You don't really come back from it, and 1058 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: if you do, you're not gonna be the same. But 1059 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: we notice. But you know, we want depth. So let's 1060 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: keep LV on there. And the next time you be 1061 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: in the training room talking about my other colophone, bro, 1062 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna look y'all in y'all eyes and say, 1063 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: you know what, we could have had a six I'm 1064 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: going to be I'm going to be very interested see 1065 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: how these rookies in a seventeen game schedule make the 1066 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: adaptation to the National Football League because they didn't play 1067 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: a full season last year, and in the case of 1068 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: some players who sat out or didn't play, like a 1069 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, you had Joseph who decided from Kentucky decided 1070 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: to set out his final two games. This is gonna 1071 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: be taxing. Do we have the Hall of Fame game 1072 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: this year? Yes? All right, so I ain't gonna it's 1073 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be brutal for 1074 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: the for the rookie because remember we came in all 1075 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: rookie year. We had the Hall of Fame Game, which 1076 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: was that means you have five preseason games, and as 1077 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: a rookie, you're gonna play at all of them. I mean, 1078 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: you might not play as much in that third like 1079 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, warm up game, but you're gonna play at 1080 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: least a half. So they got it's four. Now, it's 1081 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: four four, it's four still a health so healthy. So 1082 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: they'll be playing the normal their normal free season all 1083 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: four and then they got that early bye week. And 1084 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,479 Speaker 1: that's the only thing as a rookie. They got all 1085 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: that training camp. And this is something that you're not 1086 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: used to. This is you know, college goes twelve games 1087 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: and they added the game the arts and I'll wear 1088 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: seventeen games plus that long train ain't in camp. You 1089 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: know who's not gonna be in at the Hall of 1090 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: Fame game. Bro Okay, Listen, Michael Parsons are not getting 1091 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: a full game of snaps and get a full game. 1092 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph is not getting the full a full full 1093 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: snaps in the Hall of Fame game. It's not just 1094 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: the thing. How they going to camp. Well, yeah, if 1095 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: they're not playing, well, they ain't playing. Yeah, yeah, But 1096 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: but Michael Parson, he's not gonna be He's not He's 1097 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be out there. He's gonna be chilling with Jalen. 1098 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: That wouldn't that be something you see el or James. 1099 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: If I'm Jay and I look over, I got my 1100 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: hat on, I'm eating my seeds in the preseason game, 1101 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: you know ain't gonna play a lot. I look over 1102 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: and I see right here beside me. Yeah, you know 1103 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 1: what's up? You know what's up? He better start, man, 1104 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see what I get. If you look 1105 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: over when you see the half, that's gotta be Man. 1106 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: What if you if you when you get to that game, 1107 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 1: if you're a rookie and you're not playing it and 1108 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: you got on street clothes, they mean you had a 1109 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: hell of a OTAs you have a hell of a 1110 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: minicamp and they are expecting you to really provide for 1111 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: them during to see it unless you hurt and you're 1112 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: a rookie and like Da Das ain't playing that in 1113 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame game. But we all saw that. 1114 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: But you know, so it's like it's not even worth 1115 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: it to risk it. Okay, that's that's a nugget right 1116 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: there for the audience right there, that's a good nugget. 1117 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: They're in trouble though, ain't that's in trouble. Listen, the 1118 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: man made a hell of a player yesterday, the hell 1119 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: of Spans. But was up the sideline. Who who's thrown it? Though? 1120 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: It don't matter he made the who was throwing the ball? 1121 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: Man threw a lot of balls yesterday. They weren't picked 1122 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: off Michael Parsons got We all know that's not you 1123 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: ain't got taking away from the man getting this interception. 1124 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: He held back double g. Last year. We're sitting back 1125 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: there at the town was a town RV whatever, And 1126 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: you was talking about the Nucci that was before the game, 1127 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: that before I saw what I so you on the nights? 1128 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 1: How was I wrong on the dudes? So you said 1129 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: should have played before the game. Before the game, remember 1130 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: that saying you know he has athletic he went out 1131 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: the Dalton. I should say they been de Nucci versus 1132 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: Trey Lance National Championship game up there in Frisco. So 1133 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,919 Speaker 1: we'll always have that as a speaking of in trouble. Oh, 1134 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: Clippers are in trouble. Tonight, are they because the Mavericks 1135 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: can close them out. The road team has won every game. 1136 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: And here's the question I had in terms of the 1137 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: NBA versus the NFL. How do you look at a 1138 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: player making a lot of money who's not doing their part? 1139 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: And I bring that up because Christo sports Ingis is 1140 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: making one hundred and fifty eight million dollars and he's 1141 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: not even the second best player on the team and 1142 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,479 Speaker 1: looking Dante just carrying him right now, how do guys 1143 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: in the room look at another dude making a big 1144 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: old check not getting it done, but winning is being 1145 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: done despite this. They usually don't happen in the NFL. 1146 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: If you if your big time player is not playing well, 1147 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: then you're usual you're usually losing. Um. But when you 1148 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: are losing and you're looking at that guy, you're also 1149 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: looking at management, like, man, what the hell is going on? 1150 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 1: Especially if this guy is one of those voiceous guys, 1151 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: one of those guys who the raw rock guys. Hey, bro, hey, bro, 1152 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: but you what are you talking about? Because you just 1153 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: missed three tackles that you're talking about over there. So 1154 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: I think what happens is the players behind the scenes 1155 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 1: lose a little faith in that person as a leader. 1156 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: But you know, in his face, it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, 1157 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: you're still the guy. But when you're going home, you're like, hey, bro, buddy, buddy, sorry, 1158 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: he's still have had plenty, plenty of conversations over the phone, 1159 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: rookie year. A couple of years. I thought he was 1160 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be the truth. I ain't gonna say the name, 1161 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: but I don't know. He get like twenty getting like 1162 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: twenty a year. I thought he was supposed to be 1163 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: the truth. I don't know. So it happens, but like 1164 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: you said, I mean, if if he's that raw, raw 1165 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,439 Speaker 1: guy that's in the locker room time, but we gotta 1166 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: win this, this is our championship. And he goes out 1167 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: there legs a stinker, you still gonna look at him 1168 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: like many. You know, yeah, you just ain't have it tonight. 1169 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: But like you said, you're gonna have conversations with your 1170 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: boys like man, hey, But he just ain't got it 1171 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 1: no more so when he started talking to everybody giving 1172 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: each other a look like he sports ingis kay, MAVs 1173 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 1: go win. They go in La. He goes show up 1174 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: in the strip club and he you know, potentially could 1175 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,240 Speaker 1: have gotten suspended. But it's like Luca's out here carrying 1176 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 1: the team. You now caught up in the Strip club, 1177 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna notice a seven foot three white 1178 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: guy the Strip club in Los Angeles. They thought it 1179 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: was Dirk's and that's the other day. You're in the 1180 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: middle of the series. Well you ain't doing that. Yeah, 1181 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: that's true. But the largest contract Yeah in Dallas Mavericks history. 1182 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: What's crazy is I would have signed him too, the 1183 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 1: way he was playing in New York. I would have 1184 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: I would have gave him a nice no, no, maybe 1185 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 1: not one thing. Thing. I would have paid him some 1186 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: bread though, to come to my squad based off what 1187 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: I he has some you like injurduced, but based off 1188 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: the injuries that he had, he would have got a 1189 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: little less. But he was balling in New York. Here's 1190 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: here's my issue with the deal, because first everybody just 1191 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: gave it. Nobody said anything, but to not give yourself 1192 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: a team option in the last year with a guy 1193 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: who's got a history of being hurt and people that 1194 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: tall have that history, all, yeah, that was the thing. 1195 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: I just said, you know, wait, wait, wait, just you 1196 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: you need to protect yourself somehow on this especially. Man, 1197 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: it's the largest contract we ever give it out. We're 1198 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: taking care of you. We just need an insurance back. 1199 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: You're balling. Hey, it's gonna be yours, but if you're not, 1200 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: then we need to help here too. And he was 1201 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna be in the position. No, I think he would 1202 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: have signed it. So that was my thing was just 1203 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: you needed to put out Luca. He's up, he's up 1204 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: this year, they're gonna sign. But you know you know 1205 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: that's no. Probably, Hey, man, go ahead, what you want, 1206 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: right to check. But you wrote a check to a 1207 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: guy who's been injured, who never played one single basketball 1208 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: game for you, and he gave yourself no protection, no 1209 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: out that I had a question. Probably I have a 1210 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: problem with that. Can he save itself by having a 1211 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: hell of a game tonight and hell of the rest 1212 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 1: of the playoffs by taking them? Yea, if he can, 1213 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: because because last year was bad too, he got injured. Yeah, 1214 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: and then this year is all his will if he 1215 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: if he somehow, if he twenty and ten, guys, just 1216 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: give him twenty and ten. Oh give him that. Yeah, 1217 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: he's providing. No, DA can't give him twenty and ten 1218 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: and and Rember you know what a playing better than 1219 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: his It was the big boy wasn't use um if 1220 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 1: it he Smith is playing better. And that's the other issues. Man, 1221 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: you're seven foot three and Paul George basically stepped up 1222 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: to the microphone and said, yeah, there's no real room 1223 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: protector there, and then they go put Bobbie in the 1224 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 1: next thing, you know, bam. You know he's out here 1225 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: affecting the basketball game. And I'm sitting to myself there, 1226 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: Kay making one fifty eight seven three is a giraffe 1227 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: on skate side here. Yeah, but I said, you ain't 1228 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna playing on defense. You gotta be putting up some buddy. 1229 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: You gotta beat dirt. Dirk wasn't gonna play no defense. 1230 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: But you know, all day and I had people say, well, 1231 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, pushing gets to hit that shot at the end. 1232 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 1: That's like a guy at the park. You're at the 1233 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: park and one of your he's terrible, he's over ten, 1234 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: but for some reason he hit the game. This This 1235 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: was my game for the jump. That's the look. And 1236 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 1: actually actually someone told me that that was how he 1237 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: was acting the locker room after him, like like like 1238 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: like he hit I'm the man. Yeah, I sealed it. 1239 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: I sealed it. What Yeah, like like like Kyrie like 1240 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: he was kind of in the cash back and forth. 1241 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: He was just giving buckets. Hold on, le Bron will 1242 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: help you. Yeah that that that KP was was acting 1243 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: like that. I said really quick, two things, two things, 1244 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: two things. Lebron playing was sixteen years his first time 1245 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: being eliminated in the first round. I thought they was 1246 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: coming back. Last night they got it to nine. They 1247 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: started rolling, and Booker came out, thing and crowded. Crowder 1248 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: start hit a couple of thirties. So shout out to 1249 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: the brun because I know people gonna hate on him, 1250 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: but that's a long time to be playing before you 1251 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: experience you know that. Two. This Milwaukee in Brooklyn series 1252 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: is gonna be nice. It's gonna be fine. It's gonna 1253 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah, this is this is gonna be Milwaukee 1254 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: taking them. I think Milwaukee gonna shock him. I think 1255 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,479 Speaker 1: one time they're going to reach one hundred and fifty points. 1256 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: One of these games is gonna be like one fifty one. 1257 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 1: For years, you are trusting in, uh, the wrong head coach. 1258 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: So all I'm gonna say, I'm don know, man, Yeah, 1259 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm not giving me. I think it's I think it's 1260 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna go to seven. I think it's go to seven. 1261 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Katie and them are gonna 1262 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna let theirselves lose to me walk in six. Okay, 1263 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: now I'm not walking six. Anybody want to. I'm just 1264 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, you gotta do that off air because 1265 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I'm coaching. Can't do it, by 1266 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 1: the way, it can stop. I mean, can we just 1267 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 1: stop this? This whole Coach K is the greatest coach 1268 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: of all time? Can we stop this? Please? Are you jealous? 1269 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying when when people start to try and 1270 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: dinner grade and act like John Wooden's ten national championships 1271 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: or no big deal that he won seven in a 1272 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: row threw up a whole bunch of undefeated teams. I mean, 1273 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, look, coach K did. I mean, I was 1274 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: in North Carolina and I remember when they were trying 1275 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: to fire the dude. The guys are tremendous basketball coach. 1276 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: But when we want to say he's the greatest of 1277 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: all time and you gotta do to one ten national 1278 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: championships one seven in a row, We're gonna act like 1279 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: that didn't count. Lord, that was easy, then stop. You 1280 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 1: gotta let the hype that down a little bit. Though. 1281 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: They just hype about it right now because he's just 1282 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: they're doing the press conference and all that. So yeah, 1283 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 1: then yeah, just see what I'm just saying. He's kind 1284 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: of like a Bill Russell type, you know, like Bill 1285 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: us got eleven rings, but nobody really is like, is 1286 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 1: he the greatest? I don't know. You know, I don't 1287 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: think anybody said Bill Russell was the greatest, right, you 1288 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Now they got Jordan Lebron. Yeah, 1289 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: people talk about Russell, it's the greatest winner. But but 1290 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: for me, when I look at John Wooden ten national championship, 1291 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 1: seven in a row, and I can't count how many 1292 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: undefeated seasons he had, Coach Ky didn't do that. What 1293 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: coach Kate did over the time period was pressive as heck. 1294 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: But when we praised people for championships and then we 1295 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: want to act like the championships don't matter. Hell, you know, 1296 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: it was easy. It was easier. I don't give a 1297 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: frogs fat ass how what you thought was he got 1298 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: it done? Because Robert Orris should definitely be one of 1299 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: the top players of all time, Robert na vibe, he 1300 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: dropping or I love or or my god, my god. 1301 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: But big Shot Bob was out there when he got 1302 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: when he got older, he was hitting big shot. It 1303 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't big shots that he didn't he did 1304 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: on a consistent basics. I'll say this, if port Zingis 1305 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: could be big shot Bob, a lot of people would 1306 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: be very happy. Okay, you know what. This is the thing. 1307 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: And I remember Robert got there and he got his 1308 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,959 Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars. I was there, and I'm telling 1309 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: you the way the guy went about his job and 1310 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: knew his role. This is the kind of guy you 1311 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: wanted on your team, and when you needed some help, 1312 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 1: he was there to give you the help. Port Zingis 1313 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 1: can't give you no help. Give me some damn help. Hell, 1314 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Luke over there, so a big shot Bob. You think 1315 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Luke Luca loved big shot right by the heck? Can 1316 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 1: you trade KP for a big shot Bob? So you know, 1317 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit around here poop poo. What a 1318 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: man did to help. He was smart enough and that's 1319 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 1: your thing too. And you guys know smart enough and 1320 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: humble enough to say this is my role, I will 1321 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: accept my role. I'll fulfill my role, and then never 1322 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 1: stepped out of it. You know, so many times these 1323 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: guys they do a little something. You know, man, I'm 1324 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: telling you, man, big shot Bob sat in the corner. 1325 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: Everybody bore towards Kobell. I'm sending you can get the ball. 1326 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm sending you. I'm sending you Robert Roy's highlights. Okay, 1327 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: I'll send me need him highlights. He comes out of 1328 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 1: the corner one of them highlight. I'm like, I can 1329 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: find a lot of those. I'm talking about. I ain't 1330 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: talking about back the Houston days. I'm talking about don't 1331 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: don't count days, don't count. They need to count me. 1332 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 1: I go back that like Vernon Max, Mad Max, another 1333 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 1: one of these guys. Man, when you needed it, he 1334 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: did it. Vinnie the Microwave Johnson, when you needed it, 1335 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: he was there to give it to you. My boy, 1336 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Ray Allen, you need these kind of Yes. But I'm 1337 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: just saying it. But that was his thing. Man, love Rank, 1338 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: I love Rank coverage, high school man. But I'm just saying, 1339 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: you don't do not know. I was brother to watch 1340 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: what that team was before he got there. Then Jerry 1341 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: makes the trade and didn't see how he was a 1342 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: part of that championship team and how he went about 1343 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 1: his work. Man, it's underrated. I'm just telling you it's 1344 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 1: rated perfectly right, right, I got it right. But it's 1345 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: like Jay Novchik man. You know, the guy was doing 1346 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: his thing with the Cowboys tight end spot. No, he's 1347 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: not a Hall of Famer, but you know what he was. Kid. 1348 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: He played his role right. You need guys to understand 1349 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: their role. Go out there, do their role. I mean, 1350 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: all I say is Chris tap Porzing. Isn't that I 1351 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: gotta watch that tonight, Dude, do something. Oh I'm gonna go. 1352 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: Of course, it's my job. It's what I do. But 1353 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: can you can you block a shot? Can you? Can 1354 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 1: you be as good as Bobon was the other night? 1355 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 1: Probably not, but I mean you asked for a Yeah, 1356 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm asking as good as all right, Um, 1357 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 1: next week we'll talk mini camp on Friday. Cowboys have 1358 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: mini camp Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then they're gone. Hopefully everybody 1359 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 1: and can enjoy their time off until training camp. Would 1360 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: be straight standy mccraie, that's bury Church. I'm gonna describe 1361 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: for Chris, for Aaron who helped us produce everything in 1362 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: the Back Players Last Back next Friday, right here on 1363 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. It will be a stressful 1364 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: off week. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 1365 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.