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Go to Danpatrick dot com right now 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: to vote, then tune in Friday to hear the winning playlist. 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: There pull question today, Yes, Marv, you have a question? 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: Did you vote already? Yes? 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: I did all right, yep, I voted for the seventies. 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: Oh let's go. Yeah, some Stevie play some uh oh, 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: there's a bunch of good ones. 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: You just forgot him sticks kiss Forner. 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that's for your cookout. 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yes, yes, seen the midweek results so far. Yes, 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: forty five percent of the vote seventies. 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Okay, crushing, all right, crushing. 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 5: Nobody wants to hear any music from the Thoughts, not 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 5: at all. 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Paul. 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 6: You know, my wife asked me the other day before 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 6: we get the sports, what was the first song you 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 6: remember hearing as a child where it's like a hit 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 6: song that you're like, oh, I remember where I heard 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 6: it or where I was. And she asked me. I 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 6: remembering a pizza place and someone played Crocodile Rock by 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 6: and I was five or six. Crocodile Rock by Elton 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 6: John and I was like, oh, that's a very popular song. 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 6: And I was a kid and I thought it was cool. 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 6: Do you guys remember the first hit song you kind 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 6: of remember them? 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: Child? 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 3: Todd? 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 7: I remember being at my friend Greg Bieber's house Brian 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 7: Bieber actually, and he had glasshouses Billy Joel and I 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 7: hadn't heard it before, and I just fell in love 49 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 7: with that cassette. It's still rock and roll to me 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 7: in particular, and I had to run out to Sam 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 7: Goodie or wherever and get the cassette of Billy Joel 52 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 7: glass Houses because if it's still rocking roll to me. 53 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Mark, do you remember the first song that you heard? 54 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember vividly. 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 8: My mom was a big Anita Baker fan, so she 56 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 8: had the song sweet Love. It was just oh, you 57 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 8: know very you know, yeah, PAULI knows about it. 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you Seten. 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the first song I 60 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: ever heard necessarily, but the one that I was like, whoa, 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: what is going on right now? Motley Cruz shout at 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: the Devil? That was like I think that's nineteen eighty three, 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: eighty four maybe, so I was, you know, five six 64 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: years old and I was like, hell, yeah, this is awesome. 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 9: I think it was the Beatles for me, and there 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 9: were a couple of them. I just remember Help Strawberry Fields, 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 9: but those were the ones I was like, man, they're 68 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 9: like three minutes or less, and they're all like catchy, poppy, 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 9: and they stayed with still stay with me. It's one 70 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 9: of those where you hear the song and it takes 71 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 9: you back, you know, many many many years ago. 72 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: Yeah see, you know what's the one that really jumps 73 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: out from that time too? That is definitely one of 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 4: the earliest songs I could remember is Rod Stewart Infatuation. 75 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: Okay, but I. 76 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: Remember that vividly, like sitting in my house at a 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: piano looking at the cassette tape of Brod Stewart Infatuation. 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 9: Okay, not the Rod Stewart song I would pick out 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 9: of all their great Rod Stewart songs, Bud Yes Paung. 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: In fifth grade, we had a teacher and he had 81 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 6: us each bring in an album for like a Friday, 82 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 6: almost like a plaything. And he had a record player 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 6: and I didn't have a lot of albums, so I 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 6: borrowed my Sharona by the nackt My Sister, which was 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 6: the number one song in America. But my friend Corey Milton, 86 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 6: who sat next to me, brought in the sugar Hill Gang. 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 6: I never heard any rap before. I don't think anyone 88 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 6: had heard a rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang. That's 89 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 6: fifth grade. 90 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 9: Why do we always mention somebody's name, Like, you couldn't 91 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 9: say my friend brought in rappers Delight. Now it's got 92 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 9: to be Corey Milton. 93 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 6: It's such a good memory. 94 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 9: Fritzy said, oh yeah, I went over there. Oh so 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 9: now that makes the story real. Like before that, I 96 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 9: wasn't going to believe that you went over to somebody else. 97 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: The whole experience meant something. 98 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 9: So I'm listening to music with Greg McCracken and he 99 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 9: knew his music, yes he did. 100 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: No, his brother did, see that's for me. It was 101 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: more my older brother. Yeah, we shared a room, so 102 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: he was you know, he's five years older than me, 103 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: so he was, you know, way ahead of you know, 104 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: getting records or tapes or whatever and listen to that. 105 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: So whatever he was listening to, I kind of glommed onto. 106 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 9: I was the same way my one of my older 107 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 9: brothers had like seven albums, and I remember one was 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 9: Jimmy Hendrix, one was Zeppelin, one was Creedon's clear Water, 109 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 9: and I think there was a Stones in there and 110 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 9: the Beatles. But that was all I knew about music, 111 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 9: you know, as far as an album went. And you 112 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 9: had to hold those albums and you would read the 113 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 9: liner notes and it was so important that you were 114 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 9: listening to a whole album there, not just one song. 115 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 116 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: See when we had and Yeah, it would be like 117 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: everything from probably Motley Crue to Public Enemy and Boogie 118 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: Down productions and stuff. 119 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 5: My brother was listening to all this stuff. 120 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 4: And when we had Chuck D in studio years ago, yeah, 121 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 4: I was just like, man, my older brother, I was 122 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: listening listening to you since forever, because my older brother 123 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: would always play the records in our room. And he 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 4: just said, Man, thank God for older brothers. 125 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 8: Huh, hell yeah, Chuck Yeah, Marv Bobby Prenitis. The Wu 126 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 8: Tang first album entered thirty six Chambers, I had no 127 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 8: idea who Wu Tang was. 128 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: He was like, you're bugging. 129 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 8: He was like, listen to this bugging protection that came 130 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 8: out When we had met the man on that scene, 131 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 8: me and Seen, I was just like many. The fact 132 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 8: that I talked to him was unbelievable, because like, I 133 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 8: was a fan of you at ten, you are a 134 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 8: seximble at ten, you're a sexible. At thirty nine, I 135 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 8: was like, this is insane. 136 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 9: Welcome to the program here already in progress. We have 137 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 9: a poll question, got a stat of the day, play 138 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 9: of the day, all that coming up. The Celtics are 139 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 9: still alive and they win comfortably. Why do I get 140 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 9: the feeling this is going seven games? There's probably no 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 9: reason to think that. I know, it's recency bias. And 142 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 9: this is what the Celtics do. This is who the 143 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 9: Celtics were during the regular season. This is who the 144 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 9: Miami Heat were during the regular season. Where you go, man, 145 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 9: the Heat, they're not that good. Celtics, Man, they're great, 146 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 9: and then you get fooled into how are they going 147 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 9: to perform if they did this over eighty two games, Well, 148 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 9: they get into a seven game series. Well, that's what 149 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 9: makes these matchups so interesting because sometimes you don't match 150 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 9: up with that team. But last night you saw what 151 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 9: Boston is capable of doing. Is it too little, too late? 152 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 9: And I did think about this when you think about 153 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 9: no team comes back from a three to zero deficit, 154 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 9: and then I always think of the Red Sox when 155 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 9: they came back from a three to zero deficit and 156 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 9: happened to witness that firsthand. And then who do I 157 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 9: see courtside last night but Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez. Well, 158 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 9: of course there will be a comeback, and if Kurt 159 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 9: Shilling shows up with a bloody sock tomorrow night, then 160 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 9: it's on. Then he should wear the full uniform and 161 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 9: the red Sox are. 162 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: Gonna sit at the hill of the bench. 163 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, And I guess Joe Mizzoula got him ready 164 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 9: for this game as opposed to the last game. So 165 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 9: can he still coach? Is he getting out coached? I'm 166 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 9: not sure it's gamed a game. But Jason Tatum was 167 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 9: wonderful in the second half last night. Once again, he's 168 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 9: just frustrating. 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: Now. 170 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 9: I'm going to give the Heat some credit here, but 171 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 9: you're still if you're one of the top five MVP 172 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 9: candidates and you can't get going against the Miami Heat, 173 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 9: I'm putting that on you, not your coach getting you 174 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 9: ready for this. But they played well last night. You 175 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 9: had six players who contributed in double figures, Jason Tatum 176 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 9: leading the way. The Heat up still three games to 177 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 9: one in this series. Hurricanes and the Panthers. That's game 178 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 9: four tonight. Might get a sweep there. Golden Knight's up 179 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 9: three to zero in their series over the Stars, and 180 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 9: the NFL tweaked the kickoff rule again and they're doing 181 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 9: it for safety. They would love to get rid of 182 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 9: the kickoff completely, but you have to have it for 183 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 9: I guess you would say the illusion of an on 184 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 9: side kick. The illusion. That's what it's come down to. 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 9: They would love for you to start the game on 186 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 9: the twenty five yard line, but now you know they 187 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 9: don't like those kind of pooch kicks that in between 188 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 9: the like fifteen and five yard line. They kind of 189 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 9: pop it up and then you try to pin the 190 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 9: opposition back. Now you make a fair catch, you get 191 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 9: the ball at the twenty five yard line. No matter 192 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 9: where you make the fair catch, you get the ball 193 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 9: at the twenty five yard line. They want to get 194 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 9: rid of the kickoff. Now they give us the illusion 195 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 9: that they care about player safety. But fans, we want 196 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 9: to see the players want to see a kickoff. There 197 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 9: are guys who make a living a reputation, guys who've 198 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 9: you know, knocked on the door of the Hall of 199 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 9: Fame because they're great on special teams. You wouldn't have 200 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 9: Devin Hester, you wouldn't have some of these great kick returners. 201 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 9: Now would you find other places for them, yes you would. 202 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 9: But guys who made a career Steve tasker, you make 203 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 9: a career out of special teams. They're not even special anymore. 204 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 9: They would love to get rid of the punt as well, 205 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 9: but they can't do that. But the kickoff, they're trying 206 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 9: to eliminate as many kickoffs, as many collisions. 207 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 10: Now. 208 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 9: They have no problem adding an extra game or two, 209 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 9: but as far as a kickoff, they don't want that. 210 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 9: They want the game to start on the twenty five 211 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 9: yard line. But the NFL tweaking that again for safety. 212 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 7: Yes, John, How does the special teams coach at the 213 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 7: end of the year keep his job or ask for 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 7: a razor promotion when he's gonna have less responsibility? 215 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: What is it exactly what you do here now that 216 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: we do the fair catch? 217 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, because now he's just a team's coach, he's not 218 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 9: a special teams coach. 219 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: Well said, yeah, thank you, Tod Yeah pull Yeah. 220 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 6: The NFL said that has changed. They hope to reduce 221 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 6: the number of kickoff returns from thirty eight percent, which 222 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 6: is already down from like ten years ago, is sixty 223 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 6: percent to thirty one percent of kicks will be returned, 224 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 6: which basically makes the play irrelevant. But they also released 225 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 6: this They said, injury rates are sixty percent higher on 226 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 6: kickoffs than on any other play, and they're actually going up. 227 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 6: Injuries on kickoffs are going up in the past years dramatically. 228 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 6: Those are their words, dramatically. That can't be possible because 229 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 6: you have half as many kickoffs as you did ten 230 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 6: years ago, but you have twice as many rate of injuries. 231 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: How many? What's the injury rate on a punt return? 232 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 6: They're saying kicks and punts, but specifically kicks. I actually 233 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 6: don't believe the NFL's research on this. I think what 234 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 6: is happening here is that there's more reported injuries, there's 235 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 6: more reported concussions. 236 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 3: Do you think the NFL would lie to you. 237 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 6: I don't understand the policy on this play because the 238 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 6: players want to return the kicks, the coaches want to 239 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 6: kick off and return to kicks, and the fans all 240 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 6: want kicks returned. Yeah, and you're not giving it to 241 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 6: them under the fake guys of player safety. 242 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 11: Yeah. 243 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 9: I mean, as much as I would love to say, hey, 244 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 9: I care about your safety. If you don't care about 245 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 9: your safety, why am I supposed to care about your safety? 246 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: How about we have better helmets and let's play football. 247 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: That's all yeah. 248 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: See, But just because there's an inherent risk in playing football, 249 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: does that mean that you just completely throw out the 250 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 4: idea of trying to make the game safer. Well, you like, 251 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: why even bother with the safer helmets that they don't care? 252 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 4: So why even bother doing safer helmets or better helmets? 253 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 9: No, I want to have better helmets, but I that's 254 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 9: not taking away from the action. If you have a 255 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 9: better helmet, then we still play football. It's like we're 256 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 9: picking and choosing. You know, hey, what you can do 257 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 9: to a quarterback where you can hit a quarterback to 258 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 9: the point where a defensive player is at a decided disadvantage. 259 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 9: They don't even know how to tackle anymore. Now you're 260 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 9: going to say, let's take out kickoffs. Hey, we're going 261 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 9: to modify the punt. We're gonna make sure you can 262 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 9: do this. Can't do that. I'm all for safety, but 263 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 9: I think a better helmet would be the start instead 264 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 9: of let's take away the kickoff. They just send mixed 265 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 9: messages with a lot of these rule changes, and they 266 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 9: have no problem adding an extra game. So you would think, 267 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 9: if you really care about safety, would you add another game? 268 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 9: And then they're going to add another game. We're gonna 269 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 9: have an eighteen game schedule. They send a mixed message, 270 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 9: at least to me, they do. 271 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: If you're a player and you only have a couple 272 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: of years of playing, yes, and now you just got 273 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: six extra game checks, yes, yeah, I'd. 274 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: Sign up for that. Yeah, all day. 275 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 9: But that's why I'm saying the players aren't as concerned 276 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 9: about player safety as you know. I think we feel 277 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 9: like we're supposed to be because they they're. 278 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: Going to make their money. 279 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 9: They have a short amount of time, extra game or two, 280 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 9: we make money, we'll play on Thursday night. 281 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: Well, flex games on Thursday night. 282 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 9: They send a mixed message with player safety here, yeah, Paul, Yeah. 283 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 6: And there's no chance for a guy to make his 284 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: career on special teams we talked about. Remember we were like, 285 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 6: we should have Steve Tasker on today. He does not exist. 286 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 6: Steve Tasker's career doesn't happen. He doesn't get to be 287 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 6: a good player. Remember years ago, there was a cowboy 288 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 6: named Bill Bates. Yeah, and he was this great special teamer. 289 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 6: He earned the starting spot at safety because he was 290 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 6: such a great special teamer. There's twenty guys we can 291 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 6: name Dante Hall never happens with the Chiefs. These are 292 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 6: names of our youth, and they cribs from Cleveland. He 293 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 6: had a great run. 294 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 9: Who's the Patriot Special teams player, Matt Matthew Slater. 295 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah he does not exist. Yeah, he's been an All 296 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: Pro for many, many, many times. There out of these 297 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: young dudes. 298 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 6: Are trying to build a career and they're not getting 299 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 6: an opportunity. 300 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: All right, well, talk some basketball. We'll settle on a pole. Question. 301 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 9: Tim Legler from the Mothership will join us. Does he 302 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 9: believe that Lebron is going to retire? I think Lebron 303 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 9: just needs a hug. 304 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: I do. 305 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 9: I think he just needs to be a hug. Get 306 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 9: a hug and be reminded that you're one of the 307 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 9: great players who's ever played the game. Yes, you got swept. 308 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 9: It's no fault of yours. And he'll be back. And 309 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 9: then he came out and said he's better than ninety 310 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 9: percent of the NBA. Do you really need to say that? 311 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 9: Feels like he just needs a hug Lebron. It's okay, 312 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 9: it's not your fault. It's like that scene and uh, 313 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 9: good hunting, good hunting. Yes, you need Robin Williams to 314 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 9: be able to say. If he were alive, he could 315 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 9: say to Lebron, is it's not your fault. It's not 316 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 9: your phone. It's good scene, Yeah it is. It's not 317 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 9: your fault. It's not your phone. 318 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 8: Yes, it's a team game, so it kind of is. 319 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 8: But not all on him though, No, it's not all 320 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 8: on him. 321 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 11: Right. 322 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 9: He just needs a hug, that's all. He just needs 323 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 9: to be told. Hey, you're still great. 324 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 8: But I tell you get hung over, you get drunk. 325 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 8: I'm never drinking ever again. This is the worst. I'm 326 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 8: never having tequila. Next week, you're at the bar. 327 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 9: Okay, I guess I could have one. All right, let 328 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 9: me take a break. Tim Legler joins is coming up next. Also, 329 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 9: i have a question that might take over social media. 330 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 9: I'm gonna ask Tim Legler this. I'm not even gonna 331 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 9: tell him what I'm gonna ask him. That'll be I'm 332 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 9: not gonna tell you guys either. No, I'm not going 333 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 9: to that's coming up next. Get refunds dot Com. 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Be 353 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 9: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 354 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 9: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 355 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 9: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 356 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 9: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app one 357 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 9: of the great shooters in NBA history. ESPN NBA analyst 358 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 9: Tim Legler joining us on the show. I'll save my 359 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 9: bombshell question for you. I got to get to the 360 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 9: Celtics last night against the Miami Heat, and why do 361 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 9: I get the feeling this is going to go seven games? 362 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: Tim? 363 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 12: I'm actually kind of feeling that a little bit myself. 364 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 11: And you heard the Celtics say, don't let us get one. 365 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 12: Basically they were warning the Heat, don't let us mess 366 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 12: around and figure this thing out, because then you got 367 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 12: a problem on your hands because we were the two seed, 368 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 12: and for probably the first two and a half months 369 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 12: of the season, they were clearly the best team in 370 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 12: the NBA. 371 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 11: So it's there. 372 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 12: They've had a hard time finding it consistently since that time, 373 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 12: and certainly in the playoffs they've had some very flat performances. 374 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 12: But now you really do feel like they're gonna win 375 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 12: game five. I don't know if it's gonna get all 376 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 12: the way to seven, ton, I could. 377 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 11: See the Heat winning this in six games, Okay. 378 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 12: Get and getting very dicey, like a fourth quarter, one 379 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 12: possession game in a game six, and you know, Jimmy 380 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 12: Butler probably making some plays in that game to win 381 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 12: it late. But there's no doubt that things have gotten 382 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 12: much more interesting all of a sudden. 383 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 9: You've been around the game a long long time, and 384 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 9: there's certain players that they play bigger better, the bigger 385 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 9: the game. Maybe during the regular season. We don't talk 386 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 9: about Jimmy Butler during the regular season, but we certainly 387 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 9: do the postseason. Reggie Miller was another player who got 388 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 9: eighteen or nineteen a game and then in the postseason 389 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 9: could go off. Can you think of other players who 390 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 9: have that ability to be big and big games. 391 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I. 392 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 12: Think there's you know, even a guy I look at, 393 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 12: even a guy like Jamal Murray, you know, as one 394 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 12: of those guys. He seems to relish that moment and 395 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 12: actually there's something different about him him. Even this year, 396 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 12: he looks like he's ticked off because every night he 397 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 12: takes the court. 398 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 11: We know, you know, we're going to talk a lot 399 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 11: about Yokich. 400 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 12: Obviously, every team they play, for the most part, probably 401 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 12: has two stars on it, and we talk a lot 402 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 12: about the stars in the game, and I think Jamal 403 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 12: Murray takes that personally. In the Phoenix series, He's out 404 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 12: there and saying, Okay, you got Katie, we got Jokic. 405 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 12: We know what those guys are and that Devin Booker 406 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 12: is getting so much love and deservedly so the guy 407 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 12: who's playing out of his mind. But I'm on that level, 408 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 12: and I think he's had this sort of edge to 409 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 12: him every night. That bodes well for Denver because in 410 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 12: the regular season, Jamal Murray's a very good player. Jamal 411 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 12: Murray can be sensational in big moments in the postseason, 412 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 12: so I think in terms of guys currently in the league, 413 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 12: he'd be a good example. 414 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 9: But what is it about Jimmy Butler that makes other 415 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 9: teams nervous? 416 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 12: Well, here's the thing they know for a fact, Jimmy 417 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 12: Butler is always going to be in the right right 418 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 12: place mentally, Like, at no point is Jimmy Butler's confidence 419 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 12: gonna wa waiver. Is he gonna be a guy that 420 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 12: just doesn't have it on a given night. Jimmy Butler's 421 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 12: the kind of guy you're gonna have to kill him 422 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 12: to stop him. And you know, he's so mentally tough 423 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 12: that no matter what the moment, or the circumstances or 424 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 12: the amount of pressure, Jimmy Butler is not gonna be 425 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 12: shaken by that. And some guys they look like they 426 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 12: lose their confidence a little bit, they change their aggressiveness, 427 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 12: they're not quite the same. For whatever reason. Jimmy Butler's 428 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 12: never liked that, even though Knights who doesn't. Doesn't mean 429 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 12: he's gonna shoot well every night. Some nights he might 430 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 12: just not shoot well. You know, it's not because he's 431 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 12: feeling the moment or anything's a little bit too big 432 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 12: for him, And I think that's why teams get nervous 433 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 12: about him. 434 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 11: Also, he can get to anywhere on. 435 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 12: The floor that he needs to to play to his wheelhouse. 436 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 12: He can get to that mid range area of the 437 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 12: floor anytime he wants. 438 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 9: Jim Legler, ESPN NBA analyst join us on the program. 439 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 9: The change or changes you would make to the Lakers 440 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 9: roster in the offseason? 441 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: Oh man? 442 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 9: This? 443 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 12: Well, first of all, they're going to have to I 444 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 12: think they need to add guys that are more consistent shooters. 445 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 12: And if you sacrifice a little bit defensively to do that, 446 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 12: I think it's important because first of all, the league 447 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 12: is not set up anymore to be a league that 448 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 12: you can maul people and get physical and just get 449 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 12: into teams and defend them. You're going to have to 450 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 12: get to a certain number most nights. And when you 451 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 12: look at the Western Conference in particular, what Denvers can 452 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 12: do every night offensively with Phoenix, you know that they're 453 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 12: going to reload. Those teams are getting to one hundred 454 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 12: and fifteen hundred and twenty points regularly. 455 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 11: So can you get to that number? 456 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 12: So all the great defense, and we talked about a 457 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 12: lot with the Lakers and being this long team, and 458 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 12: they're athletic and they're going to be able to bother 459 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 12: Denver got news for you. Denver shot splits of basically 460 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 12: fifty forty eighty as a team. Okay, so as an 461 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 12: individual player, for people listening, if you go fifty from 462 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 12: the field, forty from the three to eighty from the line. 463 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 11: And Dan I did that. I did that a couple 464 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 11: of times. 465 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 12: I was a fifty to fifty eighty guy a couple 466 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 12: of times. Right, that's a hell of a year or 467 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 12: a hell of a series. If one guy does that, 468 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 12: imagine the whole team doing that. 469 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 11: And that's what they just did to the Lakers. That's 470 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 11: how efficient they were. 471 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 12: So the Lakers need to add shooting I think as 472 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 12: their top priority. Look, Kyrie, this talk is going to 473 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 12: be there all summer. I'm not a Kyrie Irving guy. 474 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 12: I think he brings an awful lot to a team 475 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 12: that not necessarily in a movie in the right direction. 476 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 11: The talent's undeniable. 477 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 12: But this might be the one situation I'd say that 478 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 12: team probably needs a guy like Kyrie Irving, and Lebron 479 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 12: probably neats Kyrie. 480 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: What did you make of Lebron's postgame comments. 481 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 11: I heard you just setting this up, saying you know 482 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 11: he needs the hug. 483 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 12: I thought that maybe laughed, because when I'm watching it, 484 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 12: what I'm thinking is this, I don't care if it's 485 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 12: Lebron James, or any athlete or any person in any 486 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 12: walk of life that you just pours your heart and 487 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 12: soul into something for eight eight months and it ends 488 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 12: in a terribly frustrating manner. You feel almost inept against 489 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 12: the team that beats you. That's not the right time 490 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 12: to get. 491 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 11: Asked the question. 492 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 12: It's certainly not the right time to answer a question 493 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 12: like that, because in the moment you feel nothing other 494 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 12: than I just want to get away from the damn 495 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 12: game right now, and he's going to go and it's 496 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 12: going to be more frustrating for the next two weeks 497 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 12: to watch the finals. He's not participating. Now, let it 498 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 12: get removed a few weeks from that. Now he's going 499 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 12: on vacation. He spent time with his family, he's back 500 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 12: in the gym a little bit. His body feels great 501 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 12: after getting a month off from the regular season. He's 502 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 12: going to have a completely different tune when you get 503 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 12: to the middle of July. There is absolutely no question 504 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 12: in my mind Lebron James isn't going anywhere. 505 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 11: And you know, and even the Brony thing. 506 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 12: We build that up, I don't know how much that's 507 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 12: what is going to drive him to continue to play. 508 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 12: I just don't think he wants to go out the 509 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 12: way he just went out. More than anything else, he 510 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 12: doesn't want to end on that note. So he's going to, 511 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 12: I think, reload his mind, get his body feeling better, and. 512 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 11: You're going to see Lebron James ready to go next year. 513 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 9: I was serious when I said he needs a hug, 514 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 9: because then he's saying I'm better than ninety percent of 515 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 9: the player, Like you don't need to say that, right, 516 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 9: Like we'll say that for you. 517 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't need to. 518 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 9: And it's almost like he he wanted somebody to kind 519 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 9: of just boost his spirits or his ego or a little 520 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 9: bit because he just got swept. 521 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's fair. 522 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 12: I mean, guys need that, right, they need to be 523 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 12: stroked guys on that level. That ironically, I think he 524 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 12: actually short changed himself. He probably it's probably more like 525 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 12: ninety seven percent of the guys in the league. He's 526 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 12: still better than but yeah, I think he needed a 527 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 12: little bit of, you know, little validation in that moment 528 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 12: because they just got swept by a team that's got 529 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 12: right now the best player in the NBA. 530 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 11: It was interesting, though. The one thing that is interesting 531 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 11: Dan and hearing him say that that percentage and whatever 532 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 11: you want to say, he could have said ninety nine, 533 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 11: And what is he really saying? 534 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 12: He's not necessarily the best player anymore. And I think 535 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 12: that's the first time that Lebron James has ever sort 536 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 12: of acknowledged that. 537 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 11: And when you get swept by a team that. 538 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 12: Has the best player in the league on it, it 539 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 12: sort of reminds you of that in the moment, that 540 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 12: they're gonna need more help. It used to being Lebron 541 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 12: would say, Hey, I'll take whatever you got and I'll 542 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 12: take my chances. Now, I think he realizes that there 543 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 12: are teams out there that are gonna be loaded that 544 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 12: he's gonna need a little bit more to compete with. 545 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 3: Would you consider trading Anthony Davis? 546 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 11: I would definitely consider trading Anthony Davis. There's no question 547 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 11: in my mind. 548 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 12: I think everybody around the league is going to feel 549 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 12: the same way about Anthony Davis that we do every 550 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 12: night watch and analyzing him. You know, the guy's a 551 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 12: difference maker. Clearly, there's no real matchup for Anthony Davis. 552 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 12: There's not an answer for him. He's a total game 553 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 12: changer defensively when he's when he's active. But do you 554 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 12: want to sign up for that and like guarantee that 555 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 12: you're gonna get like fifty games of that every year 556 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 12: and in the postseason you'll get it, you know, more 557 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 12: than probably every other night. That's probably selling him a 558 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 12: little bit short. But let's say you get it sixty 559 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 12: five percent of the time in the postseason and he's 560 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 12: your second best player? 561 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 11: Is that enough? Are you gonna be happy with that? 562 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 12: So I just wonder what people would genuinely be willing 563 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 12: to give up for Anthony Davis, knowing at some point 564 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 12: he's going to miss a large chunk. 565 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 11: Of time in the regular season for an. 566 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 12: Injury, and then you're not exactly sure if he's going 567 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 12: to leave his house every day in the playoffs intent 568 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 12: on coming to the arena and doing some serious damage, 569 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 12: because I don't know that he always gets some self there. 570 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 9: Mentally, I was looking for a comp. We love to 571 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 9: have comps with players like that. Guy reminds me of 572 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 9: and I was thinking about Joker and Brad Doherty. I 573 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 9: don't know if that's a fair comp, but just the 574 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 9: ability to play high low in out pass. Doherty I 575 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 9: always thought was one of the more underrated players that 576 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 9: I saw play. But you got a comp for a joke. 577 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 11: I don't have a. 578 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 12: Comp for him because I think about this all the time. 579 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 12: He usually pretty good at coming up with that, and 580 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 12: I I've been asked this question and I racked my brain. 581 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 12: I'm also kind of like a storian of the game, 582 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 12: and I'm old enough that I. 583 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 11: Know all the errors. He's so unique in that. 584 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 12: I was thinking about this last night as I get 585 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 12: ready to break. 586 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 11: Down the finals. Whenever they get their matchup. 587 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 12: I don't care who comes out of the East. Denver 588 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 12: is going to win the championship. And the reason is 589 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 12: because there's no personnel scheme or defensive energy amount of 590 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 12: defensive energy that affects Jokic, He's not affected by it. 591 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 12: Put a smaller guy on him, that's athletic. He makes 592 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 12: those guys look silly because he just overwhelms them with 593 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 12: his size and touch. You put a bigger guy on him, well, 594 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 12: now you've got to chase them all over the perimeter while. 595 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 11: He runs eighty seven dribble handoffs. 596 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 12: And picks and pops and spends so much time with 597 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 12: the perimeter that he makes Bigs like a fish out 598 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 12: of water. 599 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 11: Out there guarding him so much. 600 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 12: You can't scheme him because you can't double him effectively 601 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 12: anywhere on the floor because of his size and his 602 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 12: mind in reading where the ball should go and then 603 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 12: getting it there with velocity. So it beats the defense, 604 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 12: it beats the clothes out, it beats the rotation. So 605 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 12: there's not a matchup that you can come up with. 606 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 12: Even nights when he doesn't shoot well, those are rare 607 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 12: because he shoots such a hypercent. He does have nights 608 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 12: like that, and he's still the most dominant player on 609 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 12: the floor. He's controlling the game to such an extent, 610 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 12: and I can't think of another player his size, particularly 611 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 12: that can do all of the things that he can do. 612 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 9: I'll leave you with this. Will the Lakers retire Lebron 613 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 9: James's number? 614 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 11: Oh? 615 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 12: No question, no question. And I'm not saying that. I'm 616 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 12: not saying that they shouldn't, but I'm just saying the 617 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 12: standard forgetting your jersey retired has been dramatically diminished. Okay, 618 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 12: it's a pretty saturated jersey retirement. 619 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: These are the Lakers, though, legs. 620 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 11: That doesn't mean yeah, I know they're the Lakers, but 621 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 11: that's Lebron James. Like, you had a guy that, in. 622 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 12: My opinion, I think probably yours, I don't know. 623 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 11: You put you put Lebron number two cemented at number 624 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 11: two all time? 625 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, so do I And I think I hate 626 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 12: to say it for him, but I think he can 627 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 12: win two or three word championships. 628 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 11: I probably still have him cemented at number two that 629 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 11: he can't. 630 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 12: That's why when we were talking about the Lebron Curry matchup, 631 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 12: like who can help their legacy more yeah, I said, Well, 632 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 12: Lebron James has been like you know, he's been like 633 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 12: flex sealed into the number two spot right like, he 634 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 12: can't you can't move it. I don't think there's any 635 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 12: upward mobility. And he's not getting caught from behind, at 636 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 12: least not by anybody we can see right now, Curry. 637 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 11: He's still grabbing rungs on the ladder, I feel like, 638 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 11: which is pretty amazing at the stage's career. So I 639 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 11: just feel like Lebron cemented at number two he wore 640 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 11: a Lakers jersey. 641 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 12: You had that guy in house for however many years 642 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 12: it's going to be, was about four years. Now, how 643 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 12: many years is Lebron? You're five, oh, year five? 644 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 11: Okay. Let's say he plays seven years for the Lake Okay, 645 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 11: and he won a championship. 646 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 12: There, and even if he never gets another one and 647 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 12: he's the second greatest player to ever play, that. 648 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 11: Thing's going up there. There's no question in my mind. 649 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 9: Well, it is Hollywood, and they celebrate their stars. So 650 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 9: I understand that you would want to have a night 651 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 9: for Lebron when it's all said and done. 652 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: I get that. 653 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 9: I'm just it just feels like, you know, the Laker 654 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 9: fans don't look at Lebron as one of them, like 655 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 9: he's not a true Laker, and I understand that, and 656 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 9: he did give you a championship. 657 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: I just don't know. 658 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 9: My feeling is that they would probably be pushback of 659 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 9: is you know, does he deserve to be in the rafters? 660 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 12: Were you talking about pushback from the fan base? Yeah, 661 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 12: well that that means that might be true. But I 662 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 12: think ultimately the organization is going to want to do 663 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 12: that because you don't even know they might have aspirations 664 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 12: down the road of having a guy with you know, 665 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 12: Lebron's mind and in your front office or part of 666 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 12: the organization. 667 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 9: Oh, he's going to get his own team. He's gonna 668 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 9: get He'll get the team in Vegas. 669 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 11: That's probably true. It's probably what he'll end up doing. 670 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 9: Or maybe he takes over Jordan's team in Carolina. 671 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 11: That would be something. 672 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 12: And then maybe maybe he's thinking, I'll buy this, I'll 673 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 12: buy Charlotte and then I'll win a championship in Charlotte. 674 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 12: That might be the one way I can I can 675 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 12: still plant. 676 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 11: Michael has been the greatest of all time. 677 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 9: Good to busy with you is always legs thanks for 678 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 9: joining us. One of the great shooters in NBA history 679 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 9: there ESPN analysts, So is that a is that a bombshell? 680 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: Is that a social media question? 681 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 9: Should the Lakers or will the Lakers retire Lebron's jersey? 682 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, are you preface it by saying, let's say 683 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 6: that's all he does there, Like. 684 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: Let's say he doesn't win another championship or he. 685 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 5: Steps away, played his last game. 686 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 687 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, hypothetically, let's. 688 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 9: Say he's played his last game, because he did talk 689 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 9: about he's got to spend some time talk about retiring. 690 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 6: Five seasons there, he averaged twenty seven points a game. 691 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: Well, he's got one title. 692 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 693 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 6: Do you put the jersey that you hang in the 694 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 6: Raptors in bubble wrap. 695 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: Too soon? 696 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 697 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: Okay, the Lakers, they've had, They have a lot of 698 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 6: retired jerseys, George Mike and Jamal Wilkes, Jerry West, James Worthy, 699 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 6: Shaquille O'Neil, kareamdl Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Gail Goodrich, elgind Baylor, 700 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 6: how Gasol, How Gasol got one? 701 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: What was he there? About? 702 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 5: Eight years? 703 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: He won a couple of titles. 704 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 6: Yea, Wilt Chamberlain, Kobe Bryant has eight and twenty four retired. 705 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 7: Yes, Hunt, I think if you were on the fence 706 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 7: either way with that, the fact that he was in 707 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 7: a Lakers' uniform, breaking Kareem abdul Jabbar's record for most 708 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 7: points in the history of basketball is enough to get 709 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 7: him up in the raft. 710 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 5: Okay, yes, well, will and should are very different. 711 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 9: Yes, That's why I'm saying will they should they? And 712 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 9: I wasn't sure which one. 713 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 5: Will they? Absolutely should they probably. 714 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 9: Not anybody else think that they shouldn't. I think they will. 715 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 9: It's Hollywood and to have another night in celebration and 716 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 9: all those things, and you know, have everybody come out 717 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 9: and be a big deal whenever that happens. 718 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulie, I could see you. 719 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: Making the case that it shouldn't. It's Lebron's fourth stop, right, 720 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 6: he's there. 721 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 9: Well, he's going to get one in Cleveland. He'll get 722 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 9: one in Miami. Chris Bosh got his jersey retired in Miami. 723 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 9: Lebron will get that. Feels like get his jersey, Yeah, 724 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 9: in three different places. 725 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 6: Miami makes a lot of sense. 726 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 9: Well, there's not a law list there for play. If 727 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 9: Chris Bosh is getting his jersey retired. I think Tim 728 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 9: Hardaway's got his jersey retired there. Lonzo Morning has his 729 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 9: he did four years in Miami. Yeah, I think so you. 730 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 9: Donnis Haslam does he have his jersey retired? 731 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 6: He's got to retire here, he. 732 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, yes, yes, mar. 733 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 8: Michael Jordan has his number retired by the heat. Also, 734 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 8: that's a dumb well. 735 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, but he's got it with everybody, doesn't he? Like, 736 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 9: why did Mike get his jersey retired by the heat? 737 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 8: Pat Riley loves him so much he legit retired it 738 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 8: when he was with the Wizards. 739 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? 740 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 2: That's insane. 741 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 9: That's when somebody owns you, like really like, the Jets 742 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 9: should retire Tom Brady's jersey. 743 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: He owns them. The Bears should retire Aaron Rodgers jersey. 744 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: He owns them. 745 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 6: Yes, the Washington Wizards have not retired Michael Jordan's number. 746 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 6: Of all the great Wizards, he didn't crack the top ten, 747 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 6: all right. One thing on Lebron, I think he's gonna 748 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 6: to get the retired jersey. I don't think he's statue worthy. 749 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, you can't give him a statue statue. No, no, 750 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: thats a quick answer. 751 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 5: No. 752 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 9: But even that owner in Cleveland, does he give him 753 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 9: a statue? Does he have a statue there yet? 754 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: Marv? 755 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: No, they should be building it for him right now. 756 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 757 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't know, but they should. 758 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Tod, Yeah, you got. 759 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 7: To give him one in Cleveland, bring a championship to 760 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 7: the hometown. 761 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 11: Doesn't like him or whatever. 762 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, but he did come back. He did come back 763 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 9: and make good on his promise. He was going to 764 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 9: bring a title. You got to build a statue. Although 765 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 9: I'm not big on statues. No, it feels like we 766 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 9: build him and then we tear him down eventually. You know, 767 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 9: got a problem with that guy. I'm going to take 768 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 9: down his statue. 769 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 5: Yes, we already saw lebron as a statue in a 770 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 5: Lakers uniform. Whoa fourth quarter shot? 771 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: WHOA what? 772 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 5: What just happened? 773 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: You know? 774 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 4: That was Paul's I said that, he said, and then 775 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 4: I said it. 776 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 5: He said it tonight. 777 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 9: How about we take a break, Michael Jordan, No, he's 778 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 9: not take a break, Mike. 779 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 3: Mike never goes sweat. 780 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 9: A couple of times in a seven games sies, Mike 781 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 9: never goes sweat, all right, Well, take a break. 782 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 5: That's showing how much easier Michael had it. 783 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 9: And Play of the Day up next. Thanks for listening 784 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 9: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 785 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 9: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 786 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 9: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 787 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 9: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 788 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 9: us live on the Peacock app. 789 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 6: Two NBA Insiders podcasting twice a week to plug you 790 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 6: right into the NBA Great. 791 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 13: Five, all happening in only one place. This League Uncut, 792 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 13: the new NBA podcast with me Chris. 793 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 3: Hanes and me Mark Stein, join. 794 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 13: Us as we team up to expound on everything we're covering, hearing, 795 00:36:59,239 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 13: and chasing. 796 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 8: Listen to This League Uncut with Chris Haynes and Mark Stein. 797 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 13: On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 798 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 13: your podcast. 799 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: Oh my god, no Play of the day. This is 800 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: the play of the day. 801 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: Check this out. 802 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 3: Two swinging a fly ball. 803 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 5: It's to left field and it's gonna go. 804 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 6: Hayes watches it is gone gone. 805 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 5: Aaron Judge tires the game. 806 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 2: What a throll A run just straight away left field. 807 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 9: That's eight home runs in the last nine games for 808 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 9: Aaron Judge courtesy of the Yankees Radio Network. That's your 809 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 9: play of the day, brought to you by maguires. They've 810 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 9: come to the rescue again. 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I guess the kids say that, Marvin, 821 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 9: have you ever heard your tires being murdered? 822 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: I have not. 823 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 9: Okay, you don't run in the same circles I do. 824 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: I do not know. 825 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 9: Uh So, the poll question do we want to go with, 826 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 9: should let's say Lebron's retiring today, should the Lakers retire 827 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 9: his jersey? Or does it feel desperate that I'm looking. 828 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: For clicks here? 829 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 5: Well, it's already up there, so. 830 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, let's jump in the pot. That's what it's 831 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: all about. 832 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 4: But I mean, really, this isn't going to be about 833 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 4: the Lakers retiring jerseys. This is going to be about 834 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 4: people not liking Lebron James. Yes, so really, the whole 835 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: question is semi useless. 836 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 5: Uh. Should the Lakers retire Lebron James' number when he retires? 837 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 11: Yeah? 838 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 5: Should he retire when he retires? 839 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 13: Yes? 840 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 5: Right now? Seventy eight percent say guess which way? 841 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: No? 842 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, that's right. 843 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: We also threw up there a little snarky poll question, 844 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 4: what happened last night? Joe Mizzula had his team ready? 845 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: Eric Spolstra didn't do? You want to guess what the uh? 846 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: Joe Mazzulla had his team reddy? 847 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: He did? 848 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 3: He did? Let's go yay, congratulations did it? Joe Joe 849 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 3: can coach. He's gonna keep his job. 850 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 6: Yes, Poland when you love snarky reported it, go to 851 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 6: Joe Mozilla coach. Can you walk me through the differences 852 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 6: in preparation for this game compared to the one where 853 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 6: you said you didn't prepare the team the other night? Yeah, 854 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 6: I'll set I'll wait un listen yes, first time, long time. 855 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 9: Your players had nothing to do with this. You got 856 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 9: them ready, is that right? 857 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: Coach? 858 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 9: Uh Doug in North Carolina? Good morning, Doug, welcome back. 859 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 10: Thank you very much. 860 00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 4: Dan. 861 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 10: I want to up the end on you guys. Forget 862 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 10: about Maybe I can take a poll of the room. 863 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 10: Forget about Lebron for a moment. In their fifty roughly 864 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 10: fifty year history, the Buccaneers have only retired two jerseys, 865 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 10: Sap and Leroy Solomon. Tom Brady. Does he get his 866 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 10: jersey retiring If you say yes, because he won a 867 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 10: Super Bowl? He didn't retire Brad Johnson. So I just 868 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 10: want to take the survey of the room. Because the 869 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 10: Bucks retired number twelve. 870 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 9: I would say yes they do. You want to get 871 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 9: Brady back in the building to have a big night. 872 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 9: You know, no offense to Brad Johnson, who was the quarterback. 873 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 9: I could have quarterback that team that day against the Raiders. 874 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 9: But I yes, they would love to have Tom Brady 875 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 9: come back and have a big ceremony. I mean, this 876 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 9: is all about you know, theater. You can create a spectacle. 877 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 9: What's Tampa going to be celebrating over the next five years? 878 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 9: Probably not much. When it comes to football. But yeah, 879 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 9: they would probably retire Tom Brady's jersey. 880 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Tom. 881 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 7: At Mile High. They got Llaway up and Manning up. 882 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 7: If the Broncos don't win that Super Bowl with which 883 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 7: you didn't have a lot to do with in the 884 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 7: actual game, does eighteen go up? Or it just looks 885 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 7: cool and you want to have Elway and Manning next 886 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 7: to each other up there? 887 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 3: Well, uh, they probably want to celebrate. 888 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 11: You know. 889 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 9: You know who are you going to put up there 890 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,919 Speaker 9: from that team? You know, Von Miller? I guess right, 891 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 9: Von Miller. You know a big reason why you won 892 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 9: that Super But you have the Super. 893 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 7: Bowl banner, which you know some would say that's enough 894 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl chance? 895 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 11: Do you have to get a number? 896 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 3: And I don't think you needed to retire Peyton managed jersey. 897 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 3: Yes right. 898 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 6: If you're a late career add on to a franchise 899 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 6: and you bring him a Super Bowl, then you get 900 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 6: your jersey tirre. Like if Charles Barkley went down to 901 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 6: Houston and played three years and didn't get injured and 902 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 6: brought them a title, then you'd have reason to do it. 903 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 6: Maybe you don't really believe in it, but if Peyton 904 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 6: Mannon doesn't get a Super Bowl. You're not you're not retiring. 905 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 8: Yes, mor Clyde Drexler later in his career only played 906 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 8: a couple of years in Houston and part of a 907 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 8: championship team up in the rafters. 908 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 9: Well he was from Houston or he went to the 909 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 9: University of Houston as well, So that might be a 910 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 9: celebration of you know, college in. 911 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 6: Bro I got Houston Rockets retired numbers. Yao, Ming's number 912 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 6: is retired in a nice career. 913 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you have like eight years? 914 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, no offense. 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