Speaker 1: Welcome to this park Opper episode of Magical Rewind and
Speaker 1: I am very excited because, as everybody probably heard over
Speaker 1: on our other feed, we really liked Buffalo Dreams. And
Speaker 1: one of the main reasons that I'll just speak for
Speaker 1: myself that I really liked the movie was because of
Speaker 1: this actor. I thought he jumped off the screen, and
Speaker 1: I am very excited to speak with him. How about us,
Speaker 1: I can't wait, so we don't. We're gonna, We're gonna
Speaker 1: do no more further ado. We're just gonna jump right
Speaker 1: into it. Please help us. Welcome Simon Baker. Hello, Hi, Hey,
Speaker 1: there we go. How are you?
Speaker 2: And good?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We are very
Speaker 1: excited to talk to you. We just reviewed Buffalo Dreams
Speaker 1: and we really really liked it, so that is uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't. We're going through all Disney Channel
Speaker 1: movies and I've never seen ninety nine percent of them,
Speaker 1: so I have no nostalgia attached. I can only watch
Speaker 1: them as movies. So some of them aren't great. Your
Speaker 1: movie was really good. We really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: We always like to start with our guests of getting
Speaker 1: a little bit of your origin story. How did you
Speaker 1: become an actor. What led you into the industry? How
Speaker 1: did you know this is what you wanted to do?
Speaker 2: Man, I sort of just fell into it. I started
Speaker 2: when I was seven years old on my nation here
Speaker 2: in Vancouver and North Vancouver, Squamish Nation. We had this
Speaker 2: show called White Fang two that was on our came
Speaker 2: onto our traditional lands and they needed extras. So my mom,
Speaker 2: being a single parent, she's like, yes, I have three kids,
Speaker 2: throw them in.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what we were doing, what we were
Speaker 2: signed up for, but we just jumped in and it
Speaker 2: was you know, I had part of our culture, a
Speaker 2: part of it. So you know, we were singing, we're dancing.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what I was a part of.
Speaker 2: And then the director came and said, you know, this
Speaker 2: young boy stands out every single time he's on camera,
Speaker 2: and you know whose boy is this? You know? And
Speaker 2: my mom at first just held back, was like, let's see,
Speaker 2: I'm not too sure if it's a good thing or
Speaker 2: a bad you know, and so he just you know, no,
Speaker 2: I need to find out whose mom you know, whose
Speaker 2: parent this is, and so she said, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: that's my boy. And he just said you know this,
Speaker 2: this boy needs to you know, carry forward, and you
Speaker 2: know he just has to face that I see all
Speaker 2: the time, so you know, get him into you know,
Speaker 2: here's a card, call this up. And I literally went
Speaker 2: into went into modeling at john Castle Blanca. I did
Speaker 2: a part of that, and then I ided a role
Speaker 2: and carried on from there. It was like one after
Speaker 2: another and just kept on going. So yeah, from a child,
Speaker 2: teen adult and now I'm the father role now I
Speaker 2: guess you know.
Speaker 1: It's so funny that you said that, because it's literally
Speaker 1: one of the things that both Sabrina and I said
Speaker 1: when we watched the movie. We were like, you do
Speaker 1: you leap off the screen? I mean, it's you really do.
Speaker 1: There's just something some people just to get through the glass,
Speaker 1: and you do. It's just it was amazing.
Speaker 4: At some point, did you have to move to la
Speaker 4: because your acting career was kind of taking off or
Speaker 4: were you always just kind of traveling in and out.
Speaker 4: How did auditions find you?
Speaker 1: Well, Vancouver is pretty darn good for up there for
Speaker 1: doing some stuff.
Speaker 2: It is you know, it always was, and it was
Speaker 2: getting to that point, Sabrina where you know, my agent
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, why don't you go try it out?
Speaker 2: And so I went down there actually with Buffalo Dreams
Speaker 2: when things started to really pick up for me. During
Speaker 2: that time, I had like three movies coming out at
Speaker 2: the same time as Buffalo Dreams, and so I was
Speaker 2: down there in California and you know, did some auditions,
Speaker 2: some really big auditions, you know, with Clint Eastwood for
Speaker 2: Flags of Our Fathers, and you know, like I got
Speaker 2: in the room with him and you know, and things
Speaker 2: were getting real. Things were like, man, like I'm stepping
Speaker 2: into this sort of new you know, it's become the
Speaker 2: stardom type of thing, and you know, but I just
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, stepped back and was like, man,
Speaker 2: this is it's big now, you know, Kelly. And but
Speaker 2: I didn't really need California. I you know, I'm a homeboy.
Speaker 2: And I went back to Vancouver and you know, my
Speaker 2: agents had said the phones are still ringing, Simon, it
Speaker 2: seems like you don't need to be down there, you know,
Speaker 2: like I can just do it from here if you
Speaker 2: you know, like managers calling and you know, different agents
Speaker 2: down in California and New York were calling, and I just,
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, I'll just stick loyal with you, man,
Speaker 2: and you know, see where we go and see how
Speaker 2: see how things go for us, and you know, and
Speaker 2: and it just kept on going again, you know. And
Speaker 2: I've just been really blessed and you know, honored to
Speaker 2: be a part of this industry for so long man.
Speaker 2: And and yeah, it's been thirty some years going at it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll say now, growing up as a young
Speaker 1: Native American man and in the entertainment industry, did you
Speaker 1: have people that you looked up to on television, the
Speaker 1: actors that you saw their career and kind of said,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what I want to do.
Speaker 2: You know. It was. I was a part of this
Speaker 2: series up here in Canada called North to sixty and
Speaker 2: it was on CBC and I got to be reoccurring
Speaker 2: on this show for five years. And all of our
Speaker 2: Indigenous actors were a part of this, especially you know,
Speaker 2: the late Gordon Totosis, very phenomenal man tend two cardinal
Speaker 2: you know, and I've got to work with majority of
Speaker 2: all of them now, but you know, those were the
Speaker 2: real faces out there. You know. I was a huge
Speaker 2: fan of Legends of the Falls with Brad Pitt and
Speaker 2: Gordon Totosis was a part of that, and you know
Speaker 2: it being a young young kid seeing you know, not
Speaker 2: seeing that many of our faces in the industry at
Speaker 2: that time. You know, really I didn't understand it, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't. It wasn't a thing for me then, not
Speaker 2: as it is now. But you know, yeah, the Gordon Totosis,
Speaker 2: August Schellingberg, you know, Russell means Gary Farmer, you know,
Speaker 2: just these guys that have been a part of the industry,
Speaker 2: you know, and changing it for us. You know, they
Speaker 2: were you know, they were fighting our indigenous inclusion in
Speaker 2: the industry, but then they were fighting on the outside
Speaker 2: for politically as well, you know, like just to get
Speaker 2: us in in the atmosphere. You know, it wasn't open
Speaker 2: and we you know, like now that I'm seeing and
Speaker 2: understanding as an adult that what our Indigenous people had
Speaker 2: to go through and still go through, you know, I
Speaker 2: was just so blessed and honored to be in their
Speaker 2: presence and act with them as well.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean I couldn't imagine. So it's I
Speaker 1: mean one of the people that because we of course
Speaker 1: want to get into Buffalo dreams, so one of the
Speaker 1: people that obviously Graham jumps off the screen as well
Speaker 1: as Graham.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I forgot about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's somebody I mean who's just been in everything.
Speaker 1: What was it like to work with him?
Speaker 2: So I've known Graham you know before that too. We
Speaker 2: were we've done a couple of shows, but you know,
Speaker 2: being in that show, I came from that into the West,
Speaker 2: but he came, you know, and he's always just been
Speaker 2: a mentor. He's always just been the guy that has
Speaker 2: been on screen. He was one of those faces. And
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I left him out, but Graham, Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: like he's a legend. You know, he's been in every
Speaker 2: single show, not just the indigenous shows. You know, just
Speaker 2: he was you know, he was in Diehard. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was amazing. You know, that was something that really resonated
Speaker 2: with me. Was you know that I got to see
Speaker 2: a face, a familiar face, being somebody not an indigenous role.
Speaker 2: You know, he got to be something more, he got
Speaker 2: to be. You know, for us, we're always wanting as actors,
Speaker 2: wanting to do something more outside of who we are.
Speaker 2: So that's something that he got to do. And working
Speaker 2: with working with him on Buffalo Dreams, you know, he's like, man,
Speaker 2: you know, like you've done like three leading roles now.
Speaker 2: He's like, that's good on you, bro, good on you.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess I got to teach and
Speaker 2: so and and I'll leave this one off. I forgot
Speaker 2: it's a Disney but he had he had a he
Speaker 2: had a nickname for me, and well, a traditional name
Speaker 2: he wanted to give me. And he and you know
Speaker 2: how Graham he has this very h stoic and you know,
Speaker 2: very low and deep voice, and so he's sitting in
Speaker 2: his chair and he's like, well, I guess I got
Speaker 2: to give you an Indian name now. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, you know, okay, Graham's going to give me,
Speaker 2: you know, and he said, He's like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you an Indian name and it's going to be
Speaker 2: walking Eagle.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh wow, walking eagle. Eagles fly, Like
Speaker 3: why why am I walking eagle? And he's like, well,
Speaker 3: because you're you're too full of it to fly?
Speaker 2: I left. I left.
Speaker 1: There's an S word in there that you know, you
Speaker 1: can say, you can say too foolish to fly, you're
Speaker 1: too flash that great.
Speaker 2: And everybody was sitting around to right, and you know,
Speaker 2: all the actors were sitting around and when when Graham spoke,
Speaker 2: and you know, he has that methodical you know, and
Speaker 2: and engaging people when people when he talks, people are
Speaker 2: just like oh wow. And and so that, you know,
Speaker 2: everybody was crowded around. We were sitting in our chairs
Speaker 2: and he was going off about you know, me and
Speaker 2: you know, boasting me up a little bit and pumping
Speaker 2: my tires and then he brought me back down.
Speaker 1: So now how did you Well, first of all, I
Speaker 1: guess before we even get into how you first heard
Speaker 1: about Buffalo Dreams. Were you a Disney channel or a
Speaker 1: Disney fan?
Speaker 2: I grew up off Disney. Who didn't, you know, Like
Speaker 2: it's so iconic, you know, like Disney is the best
Speaker 2: we've been. Like my my favorite was Aladdin, Like I
Speaker 2: love singing it. My sister and I would watch it,
Speaker 2: and you know it was just a great, a great show.
Speaker 2: And obviously Pocahontas, you know, it was, you know, one
Speaker 2: of another great show that we got to you know,
Speaker 2: our indigenous people and got to be portrayed in in
Speaker 2: in Disney and that was you know, a stepping stone
Speaker 2: for us. Irene Badard, you know it is another great name,
Speaker 2: but uh yeah too, Disney is is amazing. When I
Speaker 2: when I heard that I was going to be a
Speaker 2: part of a Disney Channel show, it was it. You know.
Speaker 2: I obviously called up the bros And said, guess who's Disney?
Speaker 2: You know, you know, and you know my siblings as well,
Speaker 2: and it was a really a great experience to be
Speaker 2: a part of this show. It you know, my I
Speaker 2: brought my brother, my late brother with me. I was
Speaker 2: getting to a point where I was night or eighteen,
Speaker 2: so up here in Canada, that's old enough to travel
Speaker 2: on your own.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Disney was like, well, you can bring a chaperone if
Speaker 2: you want. And I said, you know what, I asked
Speaker 2: my brother. You know, hey, you know I can, you know,
Speaker 2: bring you along as my chaperone. You get some pretty
Speaker 2: am you get a couple of bucks you know you
Speaker 2: want to have. Yeah. So he was, he was, you know, ecstatic.
Speaker 2: It was you know, forever, it will forever be one
Speaker 2: of my greatest memories with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We got to travel down. We drove down, actually, uh
Speaker 2: drove down from drove from Vancouver down to Utah and
Speaker 2: we just had, you know, just all these little experiences
Speaker 2: on the road trip down and you know, like my
Speaker 2: brother didn't really travel too much. He never left the
Speaker 2: reserve too much, and uh so this was a first
Speaker 2: for him. And when almost every state that we went through,
Speaker 2: he sort of got this little anxiety. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: whoa what I'm getting a little too far away? What's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: You know, we had to regroup and you know, bring
Speaker 2: ourselves back down and talk about it, and you know
Speaker 2: it's like okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go a
Speaker 2: little further. We're not even there yet. Bro, you haven't
Speaker 2: even got your first payday yet. Come on. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was it was an experience, it, you know, and
Speaker 2: and to just to get that, you know, the the audition,
Speaker 2: you know, doing the audition, not knowing what you were
Speaker 2: auditioning four you know.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't what you didn't know what you were
Speaker 1: auditioning for. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a tape like I was, I
Speaker 2: was on uh I was filming into the West, and
Speaker 2: I just got the you know, with a little breakdown,
Speaker 2: and you know, I told my agent at first, I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, like I'm so busy right now. Can
Speaker 2: I can I handle another show, like, are they going
Speaker 2: to even you know, like I'm on this show for
Speaker 2: like eight months. He's like, don't worry about it, don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. Let's just let's just send a tape in.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, cool, you know, and I remember a
Speaker 2: part of it that I had to sing in it,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, okay, well, you know that sounds cool. Sure,
Speaker 2: let's let's try something out, you know, like and so
Speaker 2: I sent in a little tape that I was singing
Speaker 2: and you know, just being happy, but you know, and
Speaker 2: and uh, I think like a week later, I got
Speaker 2: the call and Gibson's like, my my my agent was
Speaker 2: like guess what, Simon, And he's like, you You're gonna
Speaker 2: be on the Disney And I'm like to be a
Speaker 2: part of Disney, right, Yeah. It's definitely like.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: So our our producers obviously deep dive. They do all
Speaker 1: the research into the film, so we're getting into you know,
Speaker 1: how many you know days it took to film and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. One of the things we
Speaker 1: came across was the fact that there was a little
Speaker 1: bit of pushback about how it seemed like the indigenous
Speaker 1: Navajo tribe wasn't represented the way that some people thought
Speaker 1: they should have been. Did you have any feelings about
Speaker 1: that as you were filming or you.
Speaker 2: Know what it was? When I got to set, we
Speaker 2: had this Navajo lady that was sort of our liaison
Speaker 2: type of thing, and she was an amazing woman. She
Speaker 2: spoke Avajo and you know, really respected. We did a
Speaker 2: little ceremony to open up and you know that, So
Speaker 2: that was you know, like these are steps you know
Speaker 2: that that were a part of what I was understanding
Speaker 2: of our industry. You know, when I when I was
Speaker 2: a part of the A Spielberg Show or a Ron
Speaker 2: Howard Show, we weren't doing these type of things. You know,
Speaker 2: we weren't you know, doing these the inclusion parts. We
Speaker 2: were just filming jumping in, you know. And so with that,
Speaker 2: you know, just having that type of space available, you know,
Speaker 2: the representation and having an elder come and do something
Speaker 2: like that was it was a really big part for me.
Speaker 2: And you know, and I understand, you know, if we
Speaker 2: were filming in Utah, it should have been with the
Speaker 2: U S, right, it should have had you know, that inclusion,
Speaker 2: and but we went with the Navajo, and you know,
Speaker 2: that's a hard part of where you know, when somebody
Speaker 2: goes out in scouts location, you know that's it's a
Speaker 2: beautiful location and we should have filmed in Arizona or
Speaker 2: you know, something like that, but we filmed in Utah,
Speaker 2: so you know, but now we do you know, these
Speaker 2: land acknowledgements up here in Canada, we do land acknowledgements,
Speaker 2: and we tell, you know, before we start anything a
Speaker 2: meeting or you know, a conference or even a film.
Speaker 2: Now we open up saying that, you know, we understand
Speaker 2: we're on the territory of so and so we respect them.
Speaker 2: We've already done our homework, our due diligence and saying hey,
Speaker 2: we're a part of this this uh and we're here
Speaker 2: to film. We're not you know, maybe we're not using
Speaker 2: your culture in this show, but we want to respect
Speaker 2: you and say that you know we're doing we're working
Speaker 2: on your territory. And that's almost sort of a part
Speaker 2: of our protocols as Indigenous people, like if I go
Speaker 2: on to another territory, I need to, you know, tell
Speaker 2: them who I am and and respect them that I'm
Speaker 2: on their territory. And if we do any type of ceremony,
Speaker 2: they need to be a part of it as well.
Speaker 2: So it's you know, it's all these steps and what
Speaker 2: we're trying to accomplish with, you know, bringing our culture
Speaker 2: alive and rejuvenate it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, it's incredible.
Speaker 4: Sounds like huge steps and leaks forward towards like crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any step forward is good, is good. I think
Speaker 1: at this point, especially in Hollywood, starting to acknowledge a
Speaker 1: number of not just the indigenous, but everybody needs to
Speaker 1: be acknowledged, and so hearing these things is really incredible.
Speaker 1: Now I have to ask, though, how close did they
Speaker 1: put you to buffalo? Which can be like serious, these
Speaker 1: things can kill you. They're well, they're kind of they
Speaker 1: were trained, like there.
Speaker 2: Was one trained buffalo, but they actually was, uh with
Speaker 2: one of the farms that they had. They sort of
Speaker 2: put like little hoofcuffs on the buffalo so it couldn't
Speaker 2: like get up and run around. But they were very team.
Speaker 2: They weren't like too you know, plus it was hot
Speaker 2: out too, so they weren't probably wanting to get too involved.
Speaker 2: But we were really close, you know. Man. Tessa, the
Speaker 2: little girl at the time, she had to go up
Speaker 2: and feed a little buffalo and that was the most
Speaker 2: amazing thing because it was just a baby, little buffalo
Speaker 2: and it's like long purple tongue key mound, and you know,
Speaker 2: her at first was she was like very hesitant and
Speaker 2: not getting too close. So I sort of, you know,
Speaker 2: I was playing the brother I was playing the big brothers,
Speaker 2: so I was like, let me try it out, you know,
Speaker 2: let's see how this goes. So I grabbed the little
Speaker 2: baby bottle to go feed the buffalo, and I you know,
Speaker 2: gave it and then it just grabbed my grab my
Speaker 2: wrist and its long purple tongue just like wrapped around
Speaker 2: and I sort of like gave a little giggle and giggle.
Speaker 4: That was actually was like, oh my gosh, it was.
Speaker 1: It was cuge. That would freak you out.
Speaker 4: There's no way I would keep my composure like.
Speaker 5: Or not. And so I sort of grabbed her and
Speaker 5: brought her, you know, brought her closer to it, and
Speaker 5: we just got through it together, and you know, that
Speaker 5: was Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 2: But then there was a lot of green screen stuff
Speaker 2: going on to sure sure the buffalo stuff. I actually
Speaker 2: was a part of a show where uh, this wrangler
Speaker 2: was riding a buffalo like he had a saddle on
Speaker 2: this buffalo was riding it around and is this real?
Speaker 2: Like what? What? How was a buffalo?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Like, who does this thing like that? And you know
Speaker 2: and this sorry, this was on into the west. So
Speaker 2: I got really comfortable around them. I knew that, you know,
Speaker 2: they you know, they're they are wild, but they aren't
Speaker 2: if you know, if you've been around cattle, they somewhat
Speaker 2: have that type of presence, you know. So I I've
Speaker 2: done some you know, a little bit of wrangling and
Speaker 2: riding in my time, so I you know, I'm comfortable
Speaker 2: around them. I know what to do and how to
Speaker 2: you know, just respect their space, you know, not move fast,
Speaker 2: not you know, around them and whatnot. So you know,
Speaker 2: I've I had that type of experience before and I
Speaker 2: think it played well.
Speaker 4: So they're they're just like, don't piss them off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your little sister.
Speaker 4: And I wanted to ask because I know for a
Speaker 4: lot of the people we bring on that work on
Speaker 4: a Disney Channel movie, it's it's really nice because it's
Speaker 4: for a lot of the times a very rare thing
Speaker 4: where kid like kid actors get to work on set
Speaker 4: with a lot of other kid actors. A lot of
Speaker 4: times you know, you're usually one of few that are
Speaker 4: in the movie and you're kind of more around adults.
Speaker 4: So was this Did this feel like a different vibe
Speaker 4: for you to be able to be around kids your
Speaker 4: age and you're all doing the same thing, all have
Speaker 4: the same dream, that kind.
Speaker 2: Of thing, one hundred percent, you know, I was. I
Speaker 2: was one of those kids where you know, like it's
Speaker 2: all adults. Yeah, you know, like I had to grow
Speaker 2: up fast. I grew up fast on the you know,
Speaker 2: in film and being around uh, you know, all adults
Speaker 2: all the time. You know that that kind of sucked
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, it's working. You know, you're working,
Speaker 2: and but then when you come to a film like
Speaker 2: this and kids are around, there's mountain bikes, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we got to be kids. We got to you know,
Speaker 2: hang out, and you know, I made some great friends
Speaker 2: with Riley and and Max. You know, like Max and I,
Speaker 2: you know, we were best buds in the show, but
Speaker 2: we became best buds as well. I you know, I
Speaker 2: haven't talked to him for a while, but we we
Speaker 2: hung out for a while. He was up and down.
Speaker 2: I was in l A for a bit. He'd come
Speaker 2: up to Vancouver, on a show, give me a call
Speaker 2: and we you know, we hung out. So yeah, it
Speaker 2: was it was awesome to hang out with kids and
Speaker 2: be kids for once, you know, and and allow that
Speaker 2: the kids to be kids. And it felt good, you know.
Speaker 2: And being being a mountain biker as well really played
Speaker 2: well too.
Speaker 1: I got to oh were you you were? You were
Speaker 1: a mountain biker before the show start other than Vancouver, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they also give you.
Speaker 4: A beach cruiser to mountain bike? Did they give you
Speaker 4: one of those beach cruisers?
Speaker 2: We all had to We all had to jump on
Speaker 2: it just so that Riley didn't feel so bad about it.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, we're able to ride and check it out.
Speaker 2: But it was that thing was a hard thing to ride.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy. But when you come from when you
Speaker 2: come from the res, you just almost adapt to any
Speaker 2: bike that you get, right. You might get an amy
Speaker 2: down from your your your grandfather, you might get a
Speaker 2: hand ride from your cousin or you know, hopefully you
Speaker 2: get one from your cousin because it's a it's newer.
Speaker 2: But you know, we had some ross buckets rolling around here.
Speaker 2: You know, you hear somebody coming up the road, and.
Speaker 1: We actually liked how he handled it in the movie though.
Speaker 1: We liked how he's like, all right, it's it's exactly
Speaker 1: like I get I get wheels. I'm fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 4: But I'm also like, there's just no way that bike
Speaker 4: could do like mountain biking. It's literally made to walk
Speaker 4: to ride on a cement walkway next to sand did well,
Speaker 4: So where did they have you guys staying when you
Speaker 4: guys were up in that area? Because so okay, So
Speaker 4: to give you a little bit of like backstory with us,
Speaker 4: as we noticed, Salt Lake is like a huge place
Speaker 4: for the d cooms to to film a ton I mean,
Speaker 4: at least half of them. I feel like our film
Speaker 4: there and this was our first time, which we loved
Speaker 4: to see another part of Utah that we don't get
Speaker 4: to see a lot in the in these movies. But
Speaker 4: it made me think, how far away were you guys
Speaker 4: from Salt Lake? Were they Did they put you up
Speaker 4: in like a hotel that was in the city or
Speaker 4: were you guys like all cabining it out because that's
Speaker 4: where it looked like there was nothing around.
Speaker 2: We travel we traveled around. We had our you know,
Speaker 2: our main hotels, were right down in Utah in Salt Lake,
Speaker 2: and and then we just like bounced around. We were
Speaker 2: at Provo Falls. Okay, funny how it's funny how as
Speaker 2: we're talking, I'm starting to remember a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I was just I was just talking to my fiance
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, I can't even remember some of
Speaker 2: these things. And I didn't want to bring that up
Speaker 2: to make me feel like I'm you know that I'm
Speaker 2: getting you.
Speaker 1: Know, that's very common.
Speaker 2: It's been a it's been a minute. So as we're talking,
Speaker 2: you know, I remember Provo Falls being so epic. It
Speaker 2: was so beautiful just being around out there. You know,
Speaker 2: they kept us in some small motels. It is what
Speaker 2: it is, you know. I'm you know, I'm sure with that,
Speaker 2: but being in and around these cool landscapes, you know,
Speaker 2: getting to see Utah, you know, like we probably could
Speaker 2: have just green screened it all and went into a
Speaker 2: studio and did it that way. But we got out there. Man, Like,
Speaker 2: we got to see Utah and be a part of Utah.
Speaker 2: And and I have a buddy that lives down there
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, you've been there. I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I filmed up there. And he's like, oh, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: You know, get out there.
Speaker 4: You know, was that the waterfall you guys like jumped
Speaker 4: off of and that was.
Speaker 1: So beautiful scene.
Speaker 2: That was like when we were up there, that was
Speaker 2: provo falls. And then when we were doing the actual jump, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to break it down and ruin
Speaker 2: it for everyone.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, it's movie magic, we know.
Speaker 2: But we were at uh, we went to this big
Speaker 2: Olympic pool and we you know, jumped off of this
Speaker 2: big diving board and so.
Speaker 1: Goddamn it.
Speaker 2: It was too rocky and like you know, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dangerous myself and as.
Speaker 2: We're all miners. Yeah, doing a big you know, Disney production,
Speaker 2: you know, and Disney wants to have a write up
Speaker 2: of losing some kids down the falls.
Speaker 1: No wait, I'm sorry we ran over that. Did you
Speaker 1: just say you've done some cliff jumping up where you are?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got beautiful you know up in Whistler, up
Speaker 2: in our territories, we got some beautiful falls and you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't jump off of them.
Speaker 2: I'm a kid.
Speaker 1: I gotta yolo yolo will yoo. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that means. Once there you go.
Speaker 2: I love that. Now.
Speaker 1: Another question, you mentioned that you did some singing for
Speaker 1: the UH audition. Was it all was the song always
Speaker 1: lean On?
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. But I'm a big Temptations fan, so
Speaker 2: I sang my girl okay okay. So I did a
Speaker 2: little bit of that with my audition, and then we
Speaker 2: just you know, sitting back talking about what, you know,
Speaker 2: what I could be comfortable about singing and you know,
Speaker 2: being around, and you know, I was like, yeah, that
Speaker 2: kind of you know, works a little bit, you know,
Speaker 2: the Temptations saying that, but it was you know, you know,
Speaker 2: and it just played well, you know, I didn't even
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it being lean on Me
Speaker 2: type of thing, you know, and when you're doing it,
Speaker 2: it just just happened.
Speaker 1: It worked, It worked, it did. I'm sorry it worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have to ask, because we love to ask this
Speaker 1: of all of our guests, when's the last time you
Speaker 1: actually watched Buffalo? So?
Speaker 2: I have two kids. I have a fifteen year old
Speaker 2: daughter that you know, when she first saw, you know,
Speaker 2: because it is on Disney. So when she first saw that,
Speaker 2: it blew her mind. It was like, oh, Daddy's on
Speaker 2: Daddy's on Disney, so you know, got some really good
Speaker 2: points doing. And then now Disney Channel came up put
Speaker 2: it on there. And my son, he's six years old,
Speaker 2: so we just watched that probably maybe a year and
Speaker 2: a half ago. Okay, yeah, and it's still up there,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's just curious. I get, you know,
Speaker 2: punch it in and see if Buffalo Dreams is still
Speaker 2: up there, you know, and I put it and I
Speaker 2: put it up there, and once again I got Dad
Speaker 2: points you know, like yeah, my son's oh, that's you know,
Speaker 2: like it, and it's just awesome. It just carries on,
Speaker 2: you know, and and now we're talking about it again,
Speaker 2: and you know, reliving the experience is just it's it's precious. Man.
Speaker 1: The joy of Disney never goes away.
Speaker 4: Have you felt the level of nostalgia from the fans
Speaker 4: since it because it has, you know, Disney Plus has
Speaker 4: really kind of reinvigorated people finding out movies that they
Speaker 4: didn't know about before. You know, have you felt that
Speaker 4: nostalgia at all?
Speaker 2: When I go down to the States. I was down
Speaker 2: in Fort Lauderdale and I was just walking around and
Speaker 2: you know, hanging out, and this little kid comes up
Speaker 2: and points at me like, oh, you know, like and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you must recognize me from one of
Speaker 2: these shows. In this his dad came up and he said,
Speaker 2: my son, he recognized you from Buffalo Dreams. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, it made me feel good because you know,
Speaker 2: as long as I still resemble a little bit of that,
Speaker 2: you know, that usefulness back, they know that somebody can
Speaker 2: remember remember me how I look back then, you know.
Speaker 2: And so I said, oh great, you know, so yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like you get these you know, these little
Speaker 2: kids that are rewatching it again and seeing that type
Speaker 2: of thing. And you know that, I think there's not
Speaker 2: too many Disney shows out there, especially on the channel
Speaker 2: Disney Channel that has a story like this, you know.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not. We haven't seen any yet. We've done
Speaker 1: fifty seventy five of these movies.
Speaker 2: So there's not that too many stories that have that
Speaker 2: inclusion part and that you know that the kids coming together,
Speaker 2: you know that type you know, yeah, and that needs
Speaker 2: to be promoted more. You know, like actually, now that
Speaker 2: you know that colors and differences, it doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: you're a kid. We don't see that. Kids don't see
Speaker 2: those type of things. It's the parents that instill that
Speaker 2: into them.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, unless they were taught to
Speaker 1: see that, that's when it gets bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think the channel, like we watched will what was
Speaker 4: the name of the DJ one, Oh, there's been like
Speaker 4: there's a couple. If there's a channel to do it,
Speaker 4: Disney is the channel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's a movie called Spin and it brought in
Speaker 4: just all of these there's different movies. There's a Cheetah
Speaker 4: Girls three, there's there's even we went to Barcelona for
Speaker 4: the second time, and there's there's a way Disney does
Speaker 4: it a really great way that like kids can really
Speaker 4: soak it in, you know different.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I said when we.
Speaker 4: Were talking about, you know a little bit of flack
Speaker 4: of like the the NOVLJ being upset that not everything
Speaker 4: was represented correctly in their their brain.
Speaker 1: It was like, but the.
Speaker 4: Great thing is it put a seed in there in
Speaker 4: these kids mind to then hopefully want to go look
Speaker 4: and find more information and get interested in it, which
Speaker 4: I think is just brilliant. You don't have to give
Speaker 4: them everything, just plant a seed to give their curiosity,
Speaker 4: you know, some some food of wanting to like get
Speaker 4: fed more of what what else is there out there
Speaker 4: of this, you know, and I just love that. And
Speaker 4: the Channel is the place to have your kid find
Speaker 4: this stuff because they do it in such a beautiful way,
Speaker 4: you know, and I love that. And this movie was
Speaker 4: just a perfect representation I felt of doing that exact
Speaker 4: thing for kids.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a perfect transition into something that I was
Speaker 1: looking into and just look so intriguing to me. And
Speaker 1: talk about bringing your culture to other places and learning
Speaker 1: about other cultures. I'd like to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about native planting, which just sounds like an incredible project.
Speaker 1: Can you tell our listeners a little bit about what
Speaker 1: that is?
Speaker 2: So when you get these type of roles and these
Speaker 2: type of things that just sort of, you know, the
Speaker 2: universe just throws it out there and just tells you
Speaker 2: you're ready for something. You know. I was having a
Speaker 2: little moment in my life where you know, I was
Speaker 2: not too sure where I was supposed to be. You know,
Speaker 2: I just had a kid. No, my kid was probably
Speaker 2: three four years old, and I was just in a transition,
Speaker 2: you know, I was I was young, probably one ty four,
Speaker 2: and you know, I just was looking around and I
Speaker 2: was sitting down outside just and it was night, and
Speaker 2: I remember this like looking up into the abyss and
Speaker 2: just saying, you know, hey, Creator, you know, if there's
Speaker 2: something out there for me, you know, if there's something
Speaker 2: that you know, I something else for me. I was
Speaker 2: sitting in this sort of just a pick up job
Speaker 2: type of thing, and and I just needed something more.
Speaker 2: If I'm supposed to be back in the industry or
Speaker 2: if i'm you know, I wouldn't mind traveling. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind going getting away for a bit, you know. And
Speaker 2: so literally two days later, I get a phone call
Speaker 2: from this company called Real World, and this producer gets
Speaker 2: on and says, you know, my name's Dennis Buchett, and
Speaker 2: I'm with Real World.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 2: We have a show that you might be interested in,
Speaker 2: and it has to do with traveling, and would you
Speaker 2: like to travel the world with us?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, it was this is this a creator?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, h this is Dennis Creator.
Speaker 2: When you put the good vibes out and you put
Speaker 2: those type of things out there and you're ready for
Speaker 2: something new in your life and something comes in that way,
Speaker 2: it just seems like that's how my life has been
Speaker 2: rolled out, you know, And I've so many amazing opportunities
Speaker 2: in my career that this one came in at the
Speaker 2: right time and because you know, it really grounded me
Speaker 2: back and gave me humility and gave me the growth
Speaker 2: that I really needed to become this person that I've
Speaker 2: become now. You know, because I've been on I've been
Speaker 2: in industry, I've been on some really big productions like
Speaker 2: Buffalo Dreams. But you know, it was the atmosphere, the
Speaker 2: glits and the glamour and you know, the hair and
Speaker 2: the makeups and the big trailers and all of those
Speaker 2: types of things where this opportunity came. And they said, simon,
Speaker 2: we understand you've done big productions. This one is going
Speaker 2: to be a little bit smaller. There's four of us traveling.
Speaker 2: We where the camera, where the sound, where the lighting,
Speaker 2: and it's you. You're the host, and you're gonna You're
Speaker 2: gonna drive us to where we need to go. And
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, that's that's cool. You know, that's that's
Speaker 2: an opportunity. And as a host, I didn't you know
Speaker 2: a host in an environmental show, a cultural show, who
Speaker 2: pops up into your mind, David Suzuki, you know the
Speaker 2: the Australian guy that has you know, Steve Irwin. Yes, yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: that are just like in there knows so much, you know.
Speaker 2: I was just this young, you know, native guy that
Speaker 2: you know, was fresh as a parent and just trying
Speaker 2: to understand what adulthood is. And I was just like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: like I'm watching David Suzuki, I'm watching Steve Irwin tabes
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, do I be that guy like this?
Speaker 2: You know, know what all the type of you know.
Speaker 2: But then I just got there and every single episode
Speaker 2: was interesting to me. Every episode that I got to
Speaker 2: see was all new to me. There wasn't something that
Speaker 2: you know, a landscape that I was a part of
Speaker 2: that I was aware of. I understood that our indigenous voice,
Speaker 2: our culture, our environment is sort of miss misunderstood, or
Speaker 2: or it's it's at a default, or it's it's in
Speaker 2: uh you know, with with our environment where the stewarts
Speaker 2: of the lands, we protect it and we when we
Speaker 2: look after it, and and a lot of these things
Speaker 2: are coming into our our lands without any discussion and
Speaker 2: and you know taking from Mother Earth and and you know,
Speaker 2: doing those type of things. So I was aware of that.
Speaker 2: But when you go into these type of remote locations,
Speaker 2: it really opens up your eyes.
Speaker 1: So what what exactly is the show you were You're
Speaker 1: going from.
Speaker 2: Native Planet is as a travel show and environmental and
Speaker 2: cultural issues that are that are facing our planet. And
Speaker 2: I jump in and talk with these you know, these activists,
Speaker 2: these elders, these young ones that are stepping up for
Speaker 2: their territory, their their rights and really being the leaders
Speaker 2: of our indigenous people. And I just get to you know,
Speaker 2: I had like four or five questions, and that's what
Speaker 2: I rolled with. It was just the who, what, when
Speaker 2: where type of thing. I could just sit there and
Speaker 2: you know, be I was a passenger almost of just
Speaker 2: watching these these great people talk about how they were
Speaker 2: protecting culture, how they were protecting environment, and and a
Speaker 2: lot of them were very you know, very smart and
Speaker 2: educated and you know all of that. But then being
Speaker 2: in the territory, being in these remote locations. You know,
Speaker 2: I always tell this story, you know, from coming from Hollywood,
Speaker 2: you know, the the big glitz and glamour. I went
Speaker 2: to the Syriacu jungle on the first episode and I
Speaker 2: got sick, Oh where where? Now?
Speaker 1: Where is the Syriaci.
Speaker 2: Jungle, Ecuador? It's about hours away from Quito, Ecuador, and
Speaker 2: you fly into a little DC plane and you fly
Speaker 2: into the jungle. You know, there's there's jaguars, there's anaconda's
Speaker 2: every morning I woke up to this big crab spider
Speaker 2: hanging out right beside my hut, and I'm like, oh what,
Speaker 2: I just just.
Speaker 4: Don't look at it.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, I don't you know, if
Speaker 2: I don't want to find out, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't want to step on it. It was so big,
Speaker 2: you know, it could.
Speaker 1: So you got wait, you got sick. Was it something
Speaker 1: you ate.
Speaker 2: Or it might have been you know. And so what
Speaker 2: I feel was it comes all with how this whole
Speaker 2: story and everything has you know, taught me and it
Speaker 2: was leaving all of the stress, all of the stuff
Speaker 2: that was toxic in my life at the time, and
Speaker 2: I brought it towards uh to this jungle. And I
Speaker 2: met this medicine man. He was like in his nineties.
Speaker 2: He was actually blind, and so this medicine man saw me.
Speaker 2: And when I went through what I was going through,
Speaker 2: it was day three and I was just purging. I
Speaker 2: was just like everything was coming out of me and
Speaker 2: I just was I still was filming. I still had
Speaker 2: to get up and you know, film around this. But
Speaker 2: on that third day, this medicine man came to my
Speaker 2: hut and just put his hand on me, and he
Speaker 2: only he only spoke Keechua and that, and you know
Speaker 2: it's not Spanish. I understand, you know, paquito Espanol, but
Speaker 2: he didn't speak that, so I didn't understand the you know,
Speaker 2: he just was shoeing me this way. And then the
Speaker 2: interpreter came over and said, oh, he wants to chat
Speaker 2: with you. He wants to sit with you. So we
Speaker 2: went into this community. But and he sat down and
Speaker 2: he said, you're he said in the interpreter was, you know, interpreting,
Speaker 2: and he said what he saw from you was just
Speaker 2: darkness around you. You had no light, you had no
Speaker 2: aura about you. And so now he feels that you've
Speaker 2: purged everything out of you and now it's time to
Speaker 2: open up again. It's time to come forward and be
Speaker 2: who you're supposed to be. And so I went on
Speaker 2: this ayahuasca. I drank some ayahuasca with him, and you know,
Speaker 2: it opened up my life. It started me on this
Speaker 2: journey of native planet and a beautiful only it became
Speaker 2: two seasons, sixteen episodes, ten years of traveling.
Speaker 1: Now, where can we find that? Because I really want
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 2: You can get it on I think you can get
Speaker 2: it on YouTube or a Native planet dot ca. Check
Speaker 2: it out. Okay. These stories are the stories that are
Speaker 2: hard that nobody really tells too much about. You know, this,
Speaker 2: this community in the Sariaku woke up one day and
Speaker 2: the government came and we're helicoptering them out and for
Speaker 2: what for a pipeline to run through their And then
Speaker 2: the families were like, no, we're not leaving. They were,
Speaker 2: you know, and they stood their ground and they fought
Speaker 2: the government and still to this day are in their
Speaker 2: territories fighting to stop Petro Ecuador from running a big
Speaker 2: pipeline through their territory. You know, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 2: a hard one, you know. And when that, when those
Speaker 2: stories happen, you know, I bring those stories back home
Speaker 2: and I tell my people, our community, you know, they
Speaker 2: had no voice at the table. We have at least
Speaker 2: our government and industry understands when they come to our table.
Speaker 2: We're still in negotiations. We're still fighting where you know,
Speaker 2: we're we we here and in our squamish nation where
Speaker 2: that we just wrote our first environmental assessment and we
Speaker 2: are the ones that are maintaining it. So you know,
Speaker 2: we're we're gradually doing things. So you know, it's giving
Speaker 2: those those communities voices, you know, further than where it
Speaker 2: comes from. You know, you you yourself have never heard
Speaker 2: of the Sariaku jungle. Check it, check it out, look
Speaker 2: it up. Beautiful, beautiful ways, and you know it's it
Speaker 2: just carried on and it gave me growth. You know,
Speaker 2: I couldn't say that without that show that, you know,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be who I am today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unbelievable. All right, one last question for you
Speaker 1: and then we'll let you go. If you could talk
Speaker 1: to yourself before you did Buffalo Dreams right now, what
Speaker 1: advice would you give yourself?
Speaker 2: Funny story? And I'm closing with a funny story. So
Speaker 2: a week before I went to film Buffalo Dreams, I
Speaker 2: needed some bro time. I needed to hang out with
Speaker 2: the bros. So I went and rented out a pad
Speaker 2: in Whistler and we were enjoying the summer, you know,
Speaker 2: just being boys in our pool. I just decided to
Speaker 2: jump over the fence into the pool and be cool
Speaker 2: and be the cool dude. And I jumped the fence
Speaker 2: and my big toe got stuck in between these little
Speaker 2: you know, the crevices of the cement went down like this,
Speaker 2: and it broke. So I took two days of just
Speaker 2: suffering and trying to you know, self medicate myself that
Speaker 2: and and hey, high anxiety towards what I was going
Speaker 2: to tell my agent. And so on day two I
Speaker 2: looked at my big toe and my big toe was
Speaker 2: black and blue, bleeding still on day two and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I screwed myself here.
Speaker 1: Oh oh no, And.
Speaker 2: I called my agent. I'm like, dude, I broke my
Speaker 2: big toe. I went to the doctor and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your big toe is broken. They can't do anything. You
Speaker 2: can't cast you can't do anything. And he's like, we're
Speaker 2: signed to a contact simon, like you know, like you're
Speaker 2: either going to pay yourself out of this or you're
Speaker 2: going to suck it up and go do it. And
Speaker 2: so for I for four or five days, I sort
Speaker 2: of I sort of hid away from everybody when I
Speaker 2: got When I got there, we had like a week
Speaker 2: of rehearsal, and so I just sort of like, did
Speaker 2: a little hobble around. I didn't. I should have been
Speaker 2: on my crutches, but I was troubling around. I was
Speaker 2: on you know, Thailand halls. And so if I could
Speaker 2: go back and tell myself not to be that cool
Speaker 2: dude trying to impress my buddies that don't care.
Speaker 4: Down the stairs like a normal.
Speaker 2: Human, because I suffered. I stuffed under that. Shoot, we
Speaker 2: were mountain biking, you know there's oh yeah, I was
Speaker 2: so physicalizing and doing these type of stunts and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And so I would tell my my my stupid young self,
Speaker 2: don't do anything stupid. You don't need to prove anybody.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, wild did anyone ever find out? Did
Speaker 4: you ever like confess anyone? My Joe was broken?
Speaker 2: Well, so when we were climbing the pro Bow Falls,
Speaker 2: it was like the late late day of filming, and
Speaker 2: my my advils were run out, and I just you know,
Speaker 2: and I told our first d d. I just said, hey,
Speaker 2: I need to go home. I need to you know,
Speaker 2: call it a day.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: My my foot is aching man, and she just sort
Speaker 2: of looks at me and she's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: And so I pulled her off to the side and
Speaker 2: I took my foot off, my my shoe and took
Speaker 2: my sock off, and it was, you know, like it's
Speaker 2: still black and blue, and oh what you know? And
Speaker 2: then and then uh, our producer the next day came
Speaker 2: and was like, Simon, you put us in a circumstance here,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, they're a week into shooting and you're
Speaker 2: you're rolling around on a broken foot, and I'm like, sorry,
Speaker 2: you know, oh man, I just wanted to be a
Speaker 2: part of this show so bad, you know, and I
Speaker 2: won't cause an issue. I'm going to do the best
Speaker 2: that I can. And so they you know, it played out.
Speaker 2: It did it, you know, I I sucked it up.
Speaker 2: I did the best I actually, you know, really massaged
Speaker 2: it every night, and you know I did it.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, learn.
Speaker 2: You could have been you could have been sitting here
Speaker 2: talking with somebody else, if you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, somebody who walked through the game instead
Speaker 1: of jumping over. Well, thank you so much for taking
Speaker 1: the time to join us. We really enjoyed the film
Speaker 1: and we just were so happy that you were able
Speaker 1: to take some time to sit and talk with This
Speaker 1: has been great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Thanks for wanting to, you know, spread
Speaker 2: some more love for Buffalo Dreams, you know. But it's amazing.
Speaker 2: So if anybody else hasn't seen it out there on
Speaker 2: this Disney uh what is it called?
Speaker 1: Magical Disney plus.
Speaker 2: Disney Plus, check it out. Man, like the show out.
Speaker 2: It's still relevant. It is. I look older, but the
Speaker 2: show is still relevant.
Speaker 1: It looks great.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Also, go check out the Native Planet. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see that. It sounds great.
Speaker 2: Check it out. I had you know, there's a couple
Speaker 2: other shows. Hey, Victor, you know I'm about to take
Speaker 2: off to do another film, so I'm I'm still at
Speaker 2: it at thirty some years later.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: We can't wait. Hopefully we'll have you back for some.
Speaker 2: Awesome Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Simon you guys man, gosh, there's so
Speaker 1: much to talk about. First of all, that Native Planet
Speaker 1: sounds amazing.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: I would never I don't think I could do it.
Speaker 1: I think I'd have to force myself to do it
Speaker 1: to see if much of the world as I could.
Speaker 1: But that would for you.
Speaker 4: For Jaguar and anacondas he's talking about I.
Speaker 1: Am now, yeah, no, don't even believe that, you know,
Speaker 1: not me, not I think I might try. No, no,
Speaker 1: I would try. But good for him.
Speaker 4: I'm glad that he filmed it so I still can
Speaker 4: be somewhat a part of it.
Speaker 1: That's one true he kind of He also kind of
Speaker 1: buried the lead the idea. If you go back and
Speaker 1: watch Buffalo Dreams with how active all the stuff he
Speaker 1: had to do with the bike riding and climbing, everything
Speaker 1: to do he's doing all that on a giant broken
Speaker 1: bloody toe is kind of amazing crazy. Uh yeah, So
Speaker 1: everybody go check it out. It is great. And thank
Speaker 1: you so much mister Simon Baker for joining us and
Speaker 1: join us over on the other feet as we review
Speaker 1: awesome movies with awesome people, or come back to this
Speaker 1: where next time we're gonna be talking to Timasimas somebody
Speaker 1: else about some other movie. We never know, they just
Speaker 1: tell us and then we get to do all the research,
Speaker 1: which is a ton of fun. So thank you everybody,
Speaker 1: and we will see you next time. Bye.