WEBVTT - Starring Simon Baker as Thomas Blackhorse in "Buffalo Dreams" 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.360 Welcome to this park Opper episode of Magical Rewind and 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.440 I am very excited because, as everybody probably heard over 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.120 on our other feed, we really liked Buffalo Dreams. And 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.960 one of the main reasons that I'll just speak for 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.520 myself that I really liked the movie was because of 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.479 this actor. I thought he jumped off the screen, and 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.239 I am very excited to speak with him. How about us, 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.280 I can't wait, so we don't. We're gonna, We're gonna 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.080 do no more further ado. We're just gonna jump right 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:46.839 into it. Please help us. Welcome Simon Baker. Hello, Hi, Hey, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.080 there we go. How are you? 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:48.760 And good? 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.360 Thank you so much for joining us. We are very 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.200 excited to talk to you. We just reviewed Buffalo Dreams 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.080 and we really really liked it, so that is uh, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.720 you know, we don't. We're going through all Disney Channel 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.000 movies and I've never seen ninety nine percent of them, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.200 so I have no nostalgia attached. I can only watch 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.319 them as movies. So some of them aren't great. Your 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.720 movie was really good. We really enjoyed it. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:13.200 Awesome. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.080 We always like to start with our guests of getting 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.240 a little bit of your origin story. How did you 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.640 become an actor. What led you into the industry? How 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.000 did you know this is what you wanted to do? 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:27.360 Man, I sort of just fell into it. I started 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.199 when I was seven years old on my nation here 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:37.600 in Vancouver and North Vancouver, Squamish Nation. We had this 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:43.560 show called White Fang two that was on our came 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:48.680 onto our traditional lands and they needed extras. So my mom, 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.160 being a single parent, she's like, yes, I have three kids, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.040 throw them in. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:54.400 You know. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.320 I didn't know what we were doing, what we were 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.560 signed up for, but we just jumped in and it 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.680 was you know, I had part of our culture, a 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.480 part of it. So you know, we were singing, we're dancing. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.480 I didn't even know what I was a part of. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:11.880 And then the director came and said, you know, this 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:16.960 young boy stands out every single time he's on camera, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.240 and you know whose boy is this? You know? And 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.880 my mom at first just held back, was like, let's see, 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.080 I'm not too sure if it's a good thing or 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.960 a bad you know, and so he just you know, no, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.280 I need to find out whose mom you know, whose 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.560 parent this is, and so she said, yeah, that's that's 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.440 that's my boy. And he just said you know this, 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.400 this boy needs to you know, carry forward, and you 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.400 know he just has to face that I see all 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.800 the time, so you know, get him into you know, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.200 here's a card, call this up. And I literally went 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:57.720 into went into modeling at john Castle Blanca. I did 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.160 a part of that, and then I ided a role 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.080 and carried on from there. It was like one after 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:09.120 another and just kept on going. So yeah, from a child, 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.920 teen adult and now I'm the father role now I 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:14.680 guess you know. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.480 It's so funny that you said that, because it's literally 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.639 one of the things that both Sabrina and I said 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.200 when we watched the movie. We were like, you do 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.040 you leap off the screen? I mean, it's you really do. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.960 There's just something some people just to get through the glass, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.480 and you do. It's just it was amazing. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.080 At some point, did you have to move to la 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.600 because your acting career was kind of taking off or 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.839 were you always just kind of traveling in and out. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:41.920 How did auditions find you? 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.200 Well, Vancouver is pretty darn good for up there for 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:45.000 doing some stuff. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.520 It is you know, it always was, and it was 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.760 getting to that point, Sabrina where you know, my agent 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.080 was like, yeah, why don't you go try it out? 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:59.040 And so I went down there actually with Buffalo Dreams 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.280 when things started to really pick up for me. During 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.040 that time, I had like three movies coming out at 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.520 the same time as Buffalo Dreams, and so I was 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.440 down there in California and you know, did some auditions, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.120 some really big auditions, you know, with Clint Eastwood for 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.200 Flags of Our Fathers, and you know, like I got 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.600 in the room with him and you know, and things 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.440 were getting real. Things were like, man, like I'm stepping 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:29.240 into this sort of new you know, it's become the 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.440 stardom type of thing, and you know, but I just 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.960 kind of, you know, stepped back and was like, man, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.280 this is it's big now, you know, Kelly. And but 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.240 I didn't really need California. I you know, I'm a homeboy. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:49.240 And I went back to Vancouver and you know, my 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:53.039 agents had said the phones are still ringing, Simon, it 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.440 seems like you don't need to be down there, you know, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.880 like I can just do it from here if you 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.400 you know, like managers calling and you know, different agents 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.720 down in California and New York were calling, and I just, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.800 you know, I was like, I'll just stick loyal with you, man, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.000 and you know, see where we go and see how 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.400 see how things go for us, and you know, and 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.080 and it just kept on going again, you know. And 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.520 I've just been really blessed and you know, honored to 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.000 be a part of this industry for so long man. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.200 And and yeah, it's been thirty some years going at it, 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:27.479 you know. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:37.960 Yeah, yeah, I'll say now, growing up as a young 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.240 Native American man and in the entertainment industry, did you 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.160 have people that you looked up to on television, the 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.200 actors that you saw their career and kind of said, 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.640 that's that's kind of what I want to do. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.159 You know. It was. I was a part of this 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.839 series up here in Canada called North to sixty and 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.800 it was on CBC and I got to be reoccurring 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.920 on this show for five years. And all of our 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:08.080 Indigenous actors were a part of this, especially you know, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:12.240 the late Gordon Totosis, very phenomenal man tend two cardinal 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.760 you know, and I've got to work with majority of 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.440 all of them now, but you know, those were the 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.279 real faces out there. You know. I was a huge 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.960 fan of Legends of the Falls with Brad Pitt and 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.760 Gordon Totosis was a part of that, and you know 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:34.159 it being a young young kid seeing you know, not 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.960 seeing that many of our faces in the industry at 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:43.440 that time. You know, really I didn't understand it, you know, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.960 I didn't. It wasn't a thing for me then, not 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:51.320 as it is now. But you know, yeah, the Gordon Totosis, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:58.520 August Schellingberg, you know, Russell means Gary Farmer, you know, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.600 just these guys that have been a part of the industry, 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.159 you know, and changing it for us. You know, they 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.120 were you know, they were fighting our indigenous inclusion in 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.080 the industry, but then they were fighting on the outside 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.160 for politically as well, you know, like just to get 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.880 us in in the atmosphere. You know, it wasn't open 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.640 and we you know, like now that I'm seeing and 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:28.640 understanding as an adult that what our Indigenous people had 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.720 to go through and still go through, you know, I 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.160 was just so blessed and honored to be in their 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.800 presence and act with them as well. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.600 You know, I mean I couldn't imagine. So it's I 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.680 mean one of the people that because we of course 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.480 want to get into Buffalo dreams, so one of the 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.680 people that obviously Graham jumps off the screen as well 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:49.160 as Graham. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:50.760 I'm sorry I forgot about it. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.520 Yes, it's somebody I mean who's just been in everything. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.320 What was it like to work with him? 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.640 So I've known Graham you know before that too. We 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.000 were we've done a couple of shows, but you know, 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:11.320 being in that show, I came from that into the West, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.520 but he came, you know, and he's always just been 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.720 a mentor. He's always just been the guy that has 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.400 been on screen. He was one of those faces. And 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.720 I'm sorry I left him out, but Graham, Yeah, man, 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.440 like he's a legend. You know, he's been in every 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.960 single show, not just the indigenous shows. You know, just 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.520 he was you know, he was in Diehard. Yeah, that 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.000 was amazing. You know, that was something that really resonated 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.559 with me. Was you know that I got to see 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:50.720 a face, a familiar face, being somebody not an indigenous role. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.240 You know, he got to be something more, he got 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.480 to be. You know, for us, we're always wanting as actors, 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.679 wanting to do something more outside of who we are. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.360 So that's something that he got to do. And working 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.600 with working with him on Buffalo Dreams, you know, he's like, man, 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.280 you know, like you've done like three leading roles now. 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.559 He's like, that's good on you, bro, good on you. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:16.760 You know. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.200 And you know, I guess I got to teach and 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.400 so and and I'll leave this one off. I forgot 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.960 it's a Disney but he had he had a he 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.640 had a nickname for me, and well, a traditional name 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.880 he wanted to give me. And he and you know 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:35.440 how Graham he has this very h stoic and you know, 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.400 very low and deep voice, and so he's sitting in 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.560 his chair and he's like, well, I guess I got 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.840 to give you an Indian name now. And I'm like, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.040 oh wow, you know, okay, Graham's going to give me, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.120 you know, and he said, He's like, I'm going to 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.600 give you an Indian name and it's going to be 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:53.400 walking Eagle. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:58.200 And I'm like, oh wow, walking eagle. Eagles fly, Like 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.960 why why am I walking eagle? And he's like, well, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.040 because you're you're too full of it to fly? 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:10.600 I left. I left. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.200 There's an S word in there that you know, you 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.679 can say, you can say too foolish to fly, you're 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.600 too flash that great. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.880 And everybody was sitting around to right, and you know, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.920 all the actors were sitting around and when when Graham spoke, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:30.160 and you know, he has that methodical you know, and 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.719 and engaging people when people when he talks, people are 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.480 just like oh wow. And and so that, you know, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.320 everybody was crowded around. We were sitting in our chairs 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.880 and he was going off about you know, me and 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.960 you know, boasting me up a little bit and pumping 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.920 my tires and then he brought me back down. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.400 So now how did you Well, first of all, I 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.000 guess before we even get into how you first heard 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.679 about Buffalo Dreams. Were you a Disney channel or a 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:03.440 Disney fan? 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.120 I grew up off Disney. Who didn't, you know, Like 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:13.080 it's so iconic, you know, like Disney is the best 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:18.520 we've been. Like my my favorite was Aladdin, Like I 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.400 love singing it. My sister and I would watch it, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.600 and you know it was just a great, a great show. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.319 And obviously Pocahontas, you know, it was, you know, one 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.880 of another great show that we got to you know, 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.079 our indigenous people and got to be portrayed in in 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.280 in Disney and that was you know, a stepping stone 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.800 for us. Irene Badard, you know it is another great name, 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:49.280 but uh yeah too, Disney is is amazing. When I 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:50.840 when I heard that I was going to be a 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:55.840 part of a Disney Channel show, it was it. You know. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.600 I obviously called up the bros And said, guess who's Disney? 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:06.400 You know, you know, and you know my siblings as well, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:12.080 and it was a really a great experience to be 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.839 a part of this show. It you know, my I 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.840 brought my brother, my late brother with me. I was 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:24.079 getting to a point where I was night or eighteen, 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.319 so up here in Canada, that's old enough to travel 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:30.080 on your own. 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:31.559 Okay. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.120 Disney was like, well, you can bring a chaperone if 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.360 you want. And I said, you know what, I asked 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.360 my brother. You know, hey, you know I can, you know, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.400 bring you along as my chaperone. You get some pretty 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.040 am you get a couple of bucks you know you 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:51.480 want to have. Yeah. So he was, he was, you know, ecstatic. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.360 It was you know, forever, it will forever be one 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.080 of my greatest memories with him. 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:58.120 Yeah. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:03.120 We got to travel down. We drove down, actually, uh 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.840 drove down from drove from Vancouver down to Utah and 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.600 we just had, you know, just all these little experiences 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.480 on the road trip down and you know, like my 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.120 brother didn't really travel too much. He never left the 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:21.240 reserve too much, and uh so this was a first 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:25.120 for him. And when almost every state that we went through, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.000 he sort of got this little anxiety. It's like, oh, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:29.960 whoa what I'm getting a little too far away? What's 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:30.240 going on? 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:30.520 You know? 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.640 You know, we had to regroup and you know, bring 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.680 ourselves back down and talk about it, and you know 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.880 it's like okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go a 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.080 little further. We're not even there yet. Bro, you haven't 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:47.880 even got your first payday yet. Come on. So yeah, yeah, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.559 it was it was an experience, it, you know, and 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:56.320 and to just to get that, you know, the the audition, 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.319 you know, doing the audition, not knowing what you were 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.160 auditioning four you know. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.120 Oh you didn't what you didn't know what you were 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.360 auditioning for. Yeah. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.400 Yeah, it was just a tape like I was, I 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:11.040 was on uh I was filming into the West, and 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.720 I just got the you know, with a little breakdown, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.880 and you know, I told my agent at first, I 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.720 was like, dude, like I'm so busy right now. Can 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.840 I can I handle another show, like, are they going 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.560 to even you know, like I'm on this show for 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.840 like eight months. He's like, don't worry about it, don't 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.880 worry about it. Let's just let's just send a tape in. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.480 I'm like, okay, cool, you know, and I remember a 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.640 part of it that I had to sing in it, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:42.080 and I'm like, oh, okay, well, you know that sounds cool. Sure, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.720 let's let's try something out, you know, like and so 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.880 I sent in a little tape that I was singing 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.640 and you know, just being happy, but you know, and 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.840 and uh, I think like a week later, I got 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.520 the call and Gibson's like, my my my agent was 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.000 like guess what, Simon, And he's like, you You're gonna 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:06.680 be on the Disney And I'm like to be a 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.280 part of Disney, right, Yeah. It's definitely like. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:13.040 Wow. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.240 So our our producers obviously deep dive. They do all 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.320 the research into the film, so we're getting into you know, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.640 how many you know days it took to film and 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.200 all that kind of stuff. One of the things we 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.120 came across was the fact that there was a little 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:37.160 bit of pushback about how it seemed like the indigenous 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.920 Navajo tribe wasn't represented the way that some people thought 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.840 they should have been. Did you have any feelings about 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.040 that as you were filming or you. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.920 Know what it was? When I got to set, we 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:55.800 had this Navajo lady that was sort of our liaison 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.080 type of thing, and she was an amazing woman. She 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.440 spoke Avajo and you know, really respected. We did a 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.800 little ceremony to open up and you know that, So 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.640 that was you know, like these are steps you know 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:13.920 that that were a part of what I was understanding 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.440 of our industry. You know, when I when I was 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.240 a part of the A Spielberg Show or a Ron 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.760 Howard Show, we weren't doing these type of things. You know, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:28.080 we weren't you know, doing these the inclusion parts. We 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.840 were just filming jumping in, you know. And so with that, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:37.120 you know, just having that type of space available, you know, 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.560 the representation and having an elder come and do something 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.360 like that was it was a really big part for me. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.320 And you know, and I understand, you know, if we 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.040 were filming in Utah, it should have been with the 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.080 U S, right, it should have had you know, that inclusion, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.680 and but we went with the Navajo, and you know, 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.800 that's a hard part of where you know, when somebody 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.680 goes out in scouts location, you know that's it's a 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.159 beautiful location and we should have filmed in Arizona or 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.360 you know, something like that, but we filmed in Utah, 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.600 so you know, but now we do you know, these 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:19.720 land acknowledgements up here in Canada, we do land acknowledgements, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.359 and we tell, you know, before we start anything a 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.240 meeting or you know, a conference or even a film. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:30.400 Now we open up saying that, you know, we understand 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.440 we're on the territory of so and so we respect them. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.400 We've already done our homework, our due diligence and saying hey, 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.440 we're a part of this this uh and we're here 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.280 to film. We're not you know, maybe we're not using 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.960 your culture in this show, but we want to respect 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.680 you and say that you know we're doing we're working 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.560 on your territory. And that's almost sort of a part 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.159 of our protocols as Indigenous people, like if I go 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.840 on to another territory, I need to, you know, tell 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.960 them who I am and and respect them that I'm 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.480 on their territory. And if we do any type of ceremony, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.560 they need to be a part of it as well. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.399 So it's you know, it's all these steps and what 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.840 we're trying to accomplish with, you know, bringing our culture 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.239 alive and rejuvenate it. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:18.520 You know. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.560 Yeah, Wow, it's incredible. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.720 Sounds like huge steps and leaks forward towards like crazy. 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.720 Yeah, any step forward is good, is good. I think 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.359 at this point, especially in Hollywood, starting to acknowledge a 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.560 number of not just the indigenous, but everybody needs to 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.760 be acknowledged, and so hearing these things is really incredible. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.760 Now I have to ask, though, how close did they 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:44.119 put you to buffalo? Which can be like serious, these 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:50.320 things can kill you. They're well, they're kind of they 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:56.080 were trained, like there. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.840 Was one trained buffalo, but they actually was, uh with 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.040 one of the farms that they had. They sort of 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.920 put like little hoofcuffs on the buffalo so it couldn't 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:16.119 like get up and run around. But they were very team. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:20.280 They weren't like too you know, plus it was hot 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:24.600 out too, so they weren't probably wanting to get too involved. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:29.439 But we were really close, you know. Man. Tessa, the 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.719 little girl at the time, she had to go up 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.920 and feed a little buffalo and that was the most 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.960 amazing thing because it was just a baby, little buffalo 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.600 and it's like long purple tongue key mound, and you know, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.320 her at first was she was like very hesitant and 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.080 not getting too close. So I sort of, you know, 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.840 I was playing the brother I was playing the big brothers, 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.639 so I was like, let me try it out, you know, 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.680 let's see how this goes. So I grabbed the little 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.960 baby bottle to go feed the buffalo, and I you know, 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.879 gave it and then it just grabbed my grab my 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.439 wrist and its long purple tongue just like wrapped around 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.800 and I sort of like gave a little giggle and giggle. 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:18.280 That was actually was like, oh my gosh, it was. 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:24.000 It was cuge. That would freak you out. 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.600 There's no way I would keep my composure like. 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.919 Or not. And so I sort of grabbed her and 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.800 brought her, you know, brought her closer to it, and 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.679 we just got through it together, and you know, that 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:41.720 was Yeah, that was amazing. 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.720 But then there was a lot of green screen stuff 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:47.160 going on to sure sure the buffalo stuff. I actually 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.639 was a part of a show where uh, this wrangler 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.560 was riding a buffalo like he had a saddle on 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:03.080 this buffalo was riding it around and is this real? 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.840 Like what? What? How was a buffalo? 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:07.000 No? 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.919 Like, who does this thing like that? And you know 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.399 and this sorry, this was on into the west. So 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.560 I got really comfortable around them. I knew that, you know, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.960 they you know, they're they are wild, but they aren't 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.240 if you know, if you've been around cattle, they somewhat 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.959 have that type of presence, you know. So I I've 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.199 done some you know, a little bit of wrangling and 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.520 riding in my time, so I you know, I'm comfortable 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.159 around them. I know what to do and how to 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.520 you know, just respect their space, you know, not move fast, 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:42.240 not you know, around them and whatnot. So you know, 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.639 I've I had that type of experience before and I 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:46.920 think it played well. 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:51.480 So they're they're just like, don't piss them off. 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.480 Yeah, your little sister. 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.440 And I wanted to ask because I know for a 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.639 lot of the people we bring on that work on 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:07.520 a Disney Channel movie, it's it's really nice because it's 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.080 for a lot of the times a very rare thing 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.920 where kid like kid actors get to work on set 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:14.960 with a lot of other kid actors. A lot of 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.480 times you know, you're usually one of few that are 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.760 in the movie and you're kind of more around adults. 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.960 So was this Did this feel like a different vibe 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.320 for you to be able to be around kids your 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.199 age and you're all doing the same thing, all have 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:28.520 the same dream, that kind. 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:32.359 Of thing, one hundred percent, you know, I was. I 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.400 was one of those kids where you know, like it's 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.680 all adults. Yeah, you know, like I had to grow 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:40.960 up fast. I grew up fast on the you know, 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.640 in film and being around uh, you know, all adults 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.320 all the time. You know that that kind of sucked 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.399 a lot. You know, it's working. You know, you're working, 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.639 and but then when you come to a film like 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:56.800 this and kids are around, there's mountain bikes, you know, like, yeah, 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.840 we got to be kids. We got to you know, 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.600 hang out, and you know, I made some great friends 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.840 with Riley and and Max. You know, like Max and I, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.159 you know, we were best buds in the show, but 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.720 we became best buds as well. I you know, I 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:12.719 haven't talked to him for a while, but we we 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.880 hung out for a while. He was up and down. 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.160 I was in l A for a bit. He'd come 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.760 up to Vancouver, on a show, give me a call 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.480 and we you know, we hung out. So yeah, it 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.560 was it was awesome to hang out with kids and 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:30.120 be kids for once, you know, and and allow that 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:35.040 the kids to be kids. And it felt good, you know. 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:40.880 And being being a mountain biker as well really played 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:41.480 well too. 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.040 I got to oh were you you were? You were 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:48.080 a mountain biker before the show start other than Vancouver, man, Yeah, 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:49.800 they also give you. 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:55.199 A beach cruiser to mountain bike? Did they give you 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.359 one of those beach cruisers? 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.080 We all had to We all had to jump on 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.840 it just so that Riley didn't feel so bad about it. 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:08.160 You know, Okay, we're able to ride and check it out. 0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.440 But it was that thing was a hard thing to ride. 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:10.680 Man. 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:12.960 Insane. 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:17.000 Yeah, yeah, crazy. But when you come from when you 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.640 come from the res, you just almost adapt to any 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.760 bike that you get, right. You might get an amy 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.560 down from your your your grandfather, you might get a 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.960 hand ride from your cousin or you know, hopefully you 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.760 get one from your cousin because it's a it's newer. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.880 But you know, we had some ross buckets rolling around here. 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:45.679 You know, you hear somebody coming up the road, and. 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.679 We actually liked how he handled it in the movie though. 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.440 We liked how he's like, all right, it's it's exactly 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.399 like I get I get wheels. I'm fine, I'm fine. 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.400 But I'm also like, there's just no way that bike 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:58.160 could do like mountain biking. It's literally made to walk 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:14.040 to ride on a cement walkway next to sand did well, 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.119 So where did they have you guys staying when you 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.600 guys were up in that area? Because so okay, So 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.199 to give you a little bit of like backstory with us, 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.119 as we noticed, Salt Lake is like a huge place 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.960 for the d cooms to to film a ton I mean, 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:29.960 at least half of them. I feel like our film 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.199 there and this was our first time, which we loved 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.760 to see another part of Utah that we don't get 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.320 to see a lot in the in these movies. But 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.080 it made me think, how far away were you guys 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.119 from Salt Lake? Were they Did they put you up 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.760 in like a hotel that was in the city or 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.520 were you guys like all cabining it out because that's 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.440 where it looked like there was nothing around. 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.719 We travel we traveled around. We had our you know, 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.760 our main hotels, were right down in Utah in Salt Lake, 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.800 and and then we just like bounced around. We were 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:09.080 at Provo Falls. Okay, funny how it's funny how as 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.680 we're talking, I'm starting to remember a little bit more. 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.400 I was just I was just talking to my fiance 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.520 and I'm like, man, I can't even remember some of 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.720 these things. And I didn't want to bring that up 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.000 to make me feel like I'm you know that I'm 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:26.879 getting you. 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.480 Know, that's very common. 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:33.840 It's been a it's been a minute. So as we're talking, 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:39.240 you know, I remember Provo Falls being so epic. It 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:44.159 was so beautiful just being around out there. You know, 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.680 they kept us in some small motels. It is what 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.360 it is, you know. I'm you know, I'm sure with that, 0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:54.639 but being in and around these cool landscapes, you know, 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.280 getting to see Utah, you know, like we probably could 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.439 have just green screened it all and went into a 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:05.040 studio and did it that way. But we got out there. Man, Like, 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.960 we got to see Utah and be a part of Utah. 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.720 And and I have a buddy that lives down there 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.040 and he's like, oh, you've been there. I was like, yeah, man, 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.920 I filmed up there. And he's like, oh, that's pretty cool. 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:19.080 You know, get out there. 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.160 You know, was that the waterfall you guys like jumped 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.480 off of and that was. 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.600 So beautiful scene. 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.560 That was like when we were up there, that was 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:36.440 provo falls. And then when we were doing the actual jump, uh, 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.760 you know, I'm going to break it down and ruin 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.040 it for everyone. 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.119 But that's okay, it's movie magic, we know. 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.480 But we were at uh, we went to this big 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:52.520 Olympic pool and we you know, jumped off of this 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.359 big diving board and so. 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:04.320 Goddamn it. 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.680 It was too rocky and like you know, like. 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:12.400 Yeah, dangerous myself and as. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.800 We're all miners. Yeah, doing a big you know, Disney production, 0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.800 you know, and Disney wants to have a write up 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.960 of losing some kids down the falls. 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.919 No wait, I'm sorry we ran over that. Did you 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.239 just say you've done some cliff jumping up where you are? 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:27.560 Yeah? 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.240 Yeah, we got beautiful you know up in Whistler, up 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:35.080 in our territories, we got some beautiful falls and you know. 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:36.880 Yeah, but don't jump off of them. 0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:39.000 I'm a kid. 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:44.719 I gotta yolo yolo will yoo. I don't know what 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.560 that means. Once there you go. 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.600 I love that. Now. 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.160 Another question, you mentioned that you did some singing for 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:56.320 the UH audition. Was it all was the song always 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:56.680 lean On? 0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:01.080 No, it wasn't. But I'm a big Temptations fan, so 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:05.480 I sang my girl okay okay. So I did a 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.720 little bit of that with my audition, and then we 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:13.080 just you know, sitting back talking about what, you know, 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.520 what I could be comfortable about singing and you know, 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.960 being around, and you know, I was like, yeah, that 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.840 kind of you know, works a little bit, you know, 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.320 the Temptations saying that, but it was you know, you know, 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.120 and it just played well, you know, I didn't even 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.560 I didn't even think about it being lean on Me 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.920 type of thing, you know, and when you're doing it, 0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.120 it just just happened. 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.240 It worked, It worked, it did. I'm sorry it worked. 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:39.480 Yeah. 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.040 I have to ask, because we love to ask this 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.880 of all of our guests, when's the last time you 0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.600 actually watched Buffalo? So? 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.360 I have two kids. I have a fifteen year old 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:53.120 daughter that you know, when she first saw, you know, 0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:57.800 because it is on Disney. So when she first saw that, 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.160 it blew her mind. It was like, oh, Daddy's on 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:06.160 Daddy's on Disney, so you know, got some really good 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:11.720 points doing. And then now Disney Channel came up put 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:15.440 it on there. And my son, he's six years old, 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:20.360 so we just watched that probably maybe a year and 0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:25.320 a half ago. Okay, yeah, and it's still up there, 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.600 and you know, it's just curious. I get, you know, 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.200 punch it in and see if Buffalo Dreams is still 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.720 up there, you know, and I put it and I 0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.040 put it up there, and once again I got Dad 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:41.400 points you know, like yeah, my son's oh, that's you know, 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.920 like it, and it's just awesome. It just carries on, 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:48.080 you know, and and now we're talking about it again, 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:54.280 and you know, reliving the experience is just it's it's precious. Man. 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:56.960 The joy of Disney never goes away. 0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:00.719 Have you felt the level of nostalgia from the fans 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.280 since it because it has, you know, Disney Plus has 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:08.360 really kind of reinvigorated people finding out movies that they 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.760 didn't know about before. You know, have you felt that 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:12.880 nostalgia at all? 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.960 When I go down to the States. I was down 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:21.400 in Fort Lauderdale and I was just walking around and 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.800 you know, hanging out, and this little kid comes up 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.560 and points at me like, oh, you know, like and 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.200 I'm like, oh, you must recognize me from one of 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:32.760 these shows. In this his dad came up and he said, 0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:42.920 my son, he recognized you from Buffalo Dreams. And I'm like, oh, 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.360 you know, it made me feel good because you know, 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.640 as long as I still resemble a little bit of that, 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.080 you know, that usefulness back, they know that somebody can 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.720 remember remember me how I look back then, you know. 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.760 And so I said, oh great, you know, so yeah, 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.320 you know, like you get these you know, these little 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.280 kids that are rewatching it again and seeing that type 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.160 of thing. And you know that, I think there's not 0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:12.040 too many Disney shows out there, especially on the channel 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.320 Disney Channel that has a story like this, you know. 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.120 No, definitely not. We haven't seen any yet. We've done 0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:21.440 fifty seventy five of these movies. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.120 So there's not that too many stories that have that 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:28.479 inclusion part and that you know that the kids coming together, 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.800 you know that type you know, yeah, and that needs 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:35.400 to be promoted more. You know, like actually, now that 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.920 you know that colors and differences, it doesn't matter if 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.960 you're a kid. We don't see that. Kids don't see 0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:46.680 those type of things. It's the parents that instill that 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:47.360 into them. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.600 I was just gonna say, unless they were taught to 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.080 see that, that's when it gets bad. 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:51.360 Yeah. 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.400 I think the channel, like we watched will what was 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:59.000 the name of the DJ one, Oh, there's been like 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.120 there's a couple. If there's a channel to do it, 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:03.520 Disney is the channel. 0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:03.800 Yeah. 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.000 So it's a movie called Spin and it brought in 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.200 just all of these there's different movies. There's a Cheetah 0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:12.640 Girls three, there's there's even we went to Barcelona for 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.960 the second time, and there's there's a way Disney does 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.440 it a really great way that like kids can really 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.840 soak it in, you know different. 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:23.920 And that's one thing I said when we. 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:25.760 Were talking about, you know a little bit of flack 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.479 of like the the NOVLJ being upset that not everything 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.000 was represented correctly in their their brain. 0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:32.360 It was like, but the. 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.160 Great thing is it put a seed in there in 0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:39.000 these kids mind to then hopefully want to go look 0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.120 and find more information and get interested in it, which 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.080 I think is just brilliant. You don't have to give 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.440 them everything, just plant a seed to give their curiosity, 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.920 you know, some some food of wanting to like get 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.400 fed more of what what else is there out there 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.600 of this, you know, and I just love that. And 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.240 the Channel is the place to have your kid find 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.560 this stuff because they do it in such a beautiful way, 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.880 you know, and I love that. And this movie was 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.240 just a perfect representation I felt of doing that exact 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:07.920 thing for kids. 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.759 Well, that's a perfect transition into something that I was 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.560 looking into and just look so intriguing to me. And 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.719 talk about bringing your culture to other places and learning 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.680 about other cultures. I'd like to talk a little bit 0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:24.360 about native planting, which just sounds like an incredible project. 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.359 Can you tell our listeners a little bit about what 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:26.719 that is? 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:30.479 So when you get these type of roles and these 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.520 type of things that just sort of, you know, the 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:37.080 universe just throws it out there and just tells you 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:41.880 you're ready for something. You know. I was having a 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.759 little moment in my life where you know, I was 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.239 not too sure where I was supposed to be. You know, 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.160 I just had a kid. No, my kid was probably 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.359 three four years old, and I was just in a transition, 0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:01.600 you know, I was I was young, probably one ty four, 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:07.440 and you know, I just was looking around and I 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.640 was sitting down outside just and it was night, and 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:17.080 I remember this like looking up into the abyss and 0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:20.000 just saying, you know, hey, Creator, you know, if there's 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.240 something out there for me, you know, if there's something 0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:26.600 that you know, I something else for me. I was 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.360 sitting in this sort of just a pick up job 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.799 type of thing, and and I just needed something more. 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.000 If I'm supposed to be back in the industry or 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.400 if i'm you know, I wouldn't mind traveling. I wouldn't 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:44.839 mind going getting away for a bit, you know. And 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:49.439 so literally two days later, I get a phone call 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:55.160 from this company called Real World, and this producer gets 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.759 on and says, you know, my name's Dennis Buchett, and 0:35:58.760 --> 0:35:59.719 I'm with Real World. 0:35:59.800 --> 0:35:59.840 Me. 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:04.799 We have a show that you might be interested in, 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:11.560 and it has to do with traveling, and would you 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.640 like to travel the world with us? 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:20.720 Oh my god, yes, it was this is this a creator? 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:21.040 Hello? 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.560 I was gonna say, yeah, h this is Dennis Creator. 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.600 When you put the good vibes out and you put 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.440 those type of things out there and you're ready for 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:34.000 something new in your life and something comes in that way, 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.000 it just seems like that's how my life has been 0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:41.640 rolled out, you know, And I've so many amazing opportunities 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:46.719 in my career that this one came in at the 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:51.400 right time and because you know, it really grounded me 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.160 back and gave me humility and gave me the growth 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:59.279 that I really needed to become this person that I've 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:03.520 become now. You know, because I've been on I've been 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.480 in industry, I've been on some really big productions like 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:11.600 Buffalo Dreams. But you know, it was the atmosphere, the 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.680 glits and the glamour and you know, the hair and 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.000 the makeups and the big trailers and all of those 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:22.680 types of things where this opportunity came. And they said, simon, 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.960 we understand you've done big productions. This one is going 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.280 to be a little bit smaller. There's four of us traveling. 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:34.240 We where the camera, where the sound, where the lighting, 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.839 and it's you. You're the host, and you're gonna You're 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.640 gonna drive us to where we need to go. And 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:45.120 I said, Okay, that's that's cool. You know, that's that's 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.960 an opportunity. And as a host, I didn't you know 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:53.759 a host in an environmental show, a cultural show, who 0:37:53.800 --> 0:38:00.800 pops up into your mind, David Suzuki, you know the 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:07.040 the Australian guy that has you know, Steve Irwin. Yes, yeah, yes, 0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.120 that are just like in there knows so much, you know. 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.799 I was just this young, you know, native guy that 0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.480 you know, was fresh as a parent and just trying 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:22.959 to understand what adulthood is. And I was just like, oh, man, 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.600 like I'm watching David Suzuki, I'm watching Steve Irwin tabes 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.200 and I'm just like, do I be that guy like this? 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.480 You know, know what all the type of you know. 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:36.680 But then I just got there and every single episode 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.440 was interesting to me. Every episode that I got to 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:45.319 see was all new to me. There wasn't something that 0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.120 you know, a landscape that I was a part of 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:53.760 that I was aware of. I understood that our indigenous voice, 0:38:54.239 --> 0:39:02.000 our culture, our environment is sort of miss misunderstood, or 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.400 or it's it's at a default, or it's it's in 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.560 uh you know, with with our environment where the stewarts 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.719 of the lands, we protect it and we when we 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.239 look after it, and and a lot of these things 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:17.399 are coming into our our lands without any discussion and 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.160 and you know taking from Mother Earth and and you know, 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.080 doing those type of things. So I was aware of that. 0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:27.120 But when you go into these type of remote locations, 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.200 it really opens up your eyes. 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.319 So what what exactly is the show you were You're 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:41.239 going from. 0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.680 Native Planet is as a travel show and environmental and 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:49.280 cultural issues that are that are facing our planet. And 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:54.919 I jump in and talk with these you know, these activists, 0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:59.040 these elders, these young ones that are stepping up for 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:03.640 their territory, their their rights and really being the leaders 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.640 of our indigenous people. And I just get to you know, 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.480 I had like four or five questions, and that's what 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.839 I rolled with. It was just the who, what, when 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.680 where type of thing. I could just sit there and 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.319 you know, be I was a passenger almost of just 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:25.560 watching these these great people talk about how they were 0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:30.000 protecting culture, how they were protecting environment, and and a 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.480 lot of them were very you know, very smart and 0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:37.279 educated and you know all of that. But then being 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:42.120 in the territory, being in these remote locations. You know, 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:47.800 I always tell this story, you know, from coming from Hollywood, 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.120 you know, the the big glitz and glamour. I went 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.920 to the Syriacu jungle on the first episode and I 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.120 got sick, Oh where where? Now? 0:40:58.120 --> 0:40:59.680 Where is the Syriaci. 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:04.560 Jungle, Ecuador? It's about hours away from Quito, Ecuador, and 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.000 you fly into a little DC plane and you fly 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:11.440 into the jungle. You know, there's there's jaguars, there's anaconda's 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.040 every morning I woke up to this big crab spider 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.040 hanging out right beside my hut, and I'm like, oh what, 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:20.839 I just just. 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.560 Don't look at it. 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.719 I don't I don't know, I don't you know, if 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.440 I don't want to find out, you know, yeah, I 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.040 don't want to step on it. It was so big, 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.360 you know, it could. 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.120 So you got wait, you got sick. Was it something 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:35.680 you ate. 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.879 Or it might have been you know. And so what 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:44.120 I feel was it comes all with how this whole 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:48.440 story and everything has you know, taught me and it 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.800 was leaving all of the stress, all of the stuff 0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.719 that was toxic in my life at the time, and 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.480 I brought it towards uh to this jungle. And I 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:04.759 met this medicine man. He was like in his nineties. 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:09.840 He was actually blind, and so this medicine man saw me. 0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.040 And when I went through what I was going through, 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.759 it was day three and I was just purging. I 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.080 was just like everything was coming out of me and 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.480 I just was I still was filming. I still had 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.319 to get up and you know, film around this. But 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.719 on that third day, this medicine man came to my 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.400 hut and just put his hand on me, and he 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.960 only he only spoke Keechua and that, and you know 0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.319 it's not Spanish. I understand, you know, paquito Espanol, but 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.480 he didn't speak that, so I didn't understand the you know, 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.279 he just was shoeing me this way. And then the 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.480 interpreter came over and said, oh, he wants to chat 0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:50.279 with you. He wants to sit with you. So we 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:55.200 went into this community. But and he sat down and 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:59.520 he said, you're he said in the interpreter was, you know, interpreting, 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.640 and he said what he saw from you was just 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.319 darkness around you. You had no light, you had no 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:11.080 aura about you. And so now he feels that you've 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.440 purged everything out of you and now it's time to 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.759 open up again. It's time to come forward and be 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.960 who you're supposed to be. And so I went on 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:27.920 this ayahuasca. I drank some ayahuasca with him, and you know, 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.160 it opened up my life. It started me on this 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:35.360 journey of native planet and a beautiful only it became 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.320 two seasons, sixteen episodes, ten years of traveling. 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.560 Now, where can we find that? Because I really want 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:42.879 to watch. 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.640 You can get it on I think you can get 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.759 it on YouTube or a Native planet dot ca. Check 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:54.680 it out. Okay. These stories are the stories that are 0:43:55.320 --> 0:44:00.120 hard that nobody really tells too much about. You know, this, 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:04.040 this community in the Sariaku woke up one day and 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:09.839 the government came and we're helicoptering them out and for 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:14.000 what for a pipeline to run through their And then 0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.839 the families were like, no, we're not leaving. They were, 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:18.920 you know, and they stood their ground and they fought 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:22.960 the government and still to this day are in their 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:27.440 territories fighting to stop Petro Ecuador from running a big 0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:31.319 pipeline through their territory. You know, it's it's it's it's 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.680 a hard one, you know. And when that, when those 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.520 stories happen, you know, I bring those stories back home 0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:43.200 and I tell my people, our community, you know, they 0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:47.040 had no voice at the table. We have at least 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:52.560 our government and industry understands when they come to our table. 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:57.239 We're still in negotiations. We're still fighting where you know, 0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:02.000 we're we we here and in our squamish nation where 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:07.359 that we just wrote our first environmental assessment and we 0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.120 are the ones that are maintaining it. So you know, 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:14.640 we're we're gradually doing things. So you know, it's giving 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:20.000 those those communities voices, you know, further than where it 0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.919 comes from. You know, you you yourself have never heard 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.960 of the Sariaku jungle. Check it, check it out, look 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:30.239 it up. Beautiful, beautiful ways, and you know it's it 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.680 just carried on and it gave me growth. You know, 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.880 I couldn't say that without that show that, you know, 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:38.960 I wouldn't be who I am today. 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:44.719 Yeah, that's unbelievable. All right, one last question for you 0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.600 and then we'll let you go. If you could talk 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:53.000 to yourself before you did Buffalo Dreams right now, what 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.320 advice would you give yourself? 0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:59.120 Funny story? And I'm closing with a funny story. So 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:05.239 a week before I went to film Buffalo Dreams, I 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.200 needed some bro time. I needed to hang out with 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.600 the bros. So I went and rented out a pad 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:16.239 in Whistler and we were enjoying the summer, you know, 0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:24.600 just being boys in our pool. I just decided to 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:29.160 jump over the fence into the pool and be cool 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.640 and be the cool dude. And I jumped the fence 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:38.440 and my big toe got stuck in between these little 0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:43.399 you know, the crevices of the cement went down like this, 0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:51.480 and it broke. So I took two days of just 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:59.520 suffering and trying to you know, self medicate myself that 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:04.680 and and hey, high anxiety towards what I was going 0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:09.400 to tell my agent. And so on day two I 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.960 looked at my big toe and my big toe was 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:17.160 black and blue, bleeding still on day two and I'm like, oh, 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:19.879 I screwed myself here. 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.640 Oh oh no, And. 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.960 I called my agent. I'm like, dude, I broke my 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.040 big toe. I went to the doctor and they're like, yeah, 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:30.320 your big toe is broken. They can't do anything. You 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:34.640 can't cast you can't do anything. And he's like, we're 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:39.839 signed to a contact simon, like you know, like you're 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.120 either going to pay yourself out of this or you're 0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:46.080 going to suck it up and go do it. And 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:50.520 so for I for four or five days, I sort 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:53.520 of I sort of hid away from everybody when I 0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:56.439 got When I got there, we had like a week 0:47:56.480 --> 0:48:00.560 of rehearsal, and so I just sort of like, did 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.400 a little hobble around. I didn't. I should have been 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.680 on my crutches, but I was troubling around. I was 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:11.080 on you know, Thailand halls. And so if I could 0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.840 go back and tell myself not to be that cool 0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:20.480 dude trying to impress my buddies that don't care. 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:23.640 Down the stairs like a normal. 0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:27.440 Human, because I suffered. I stuffed under that. Shoot, we 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.480 were mountain biking, you know there's oh yeah, I was 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:35.840 so physicalizing and doing these type of stunts and whatnot. 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.600 And so I would tell my my my stupid young self, 0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:43.560 don't do anything stupid. You don't need to prove anybody. 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.719 Oh my god, wild did anyone ever find out? Did 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.080 you ever like confess anyone? My Joe was broken? 0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:53.200 Well, so when we were climbing the pro Bow Falls, 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:58.040 it was like the late late day of filming, and 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.799 my my advils were run out, and I just you know, 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:06.799 and I told our first d d. I just said, hey, 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.040 I need to go home. I need to you know, 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:10.879 call it a day. 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:11.080 Here. 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.319 My my foot is aching man, and she just sort 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.680 of looks at me and she's like, what do you mean? 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:19.759 And so I pulled her off to the side and 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.239 I took my foot off, my my shoe and took 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.239 my sock off, and it was, you know, like it's 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:32.640 still black and blue, and oh what you know? And 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:39.760 then and then uh, our producer the next day came 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:44.719 and was like, Simon, you put us in a circumstance here, 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.600 you know. Yeah, they're a week into shooting and you're 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:52.840 you're rolling around on a broken foot, and I'm like, sorry, 0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.880 you know, oh man, I just wanted to be a 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:59.640 part of this show so bad, you know, and I 0:49:59.760 --> 0:50:02.440 won't cause an issue. I'm going to do the best 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:06.799 that I can. And so they you know, it played out. 0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.799 It did it, you know, I I sucked it up. 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.320 I did the best I actually, you know, really massaged 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.160 it every night, and you know I did it. 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.239 You know, yeah, learn. 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:24.879 You could have been you could have been sitting here 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:26.839 talking with somebody else, if you know. 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:32.080 Yeah right, yeah, somebody who walked through the game instead 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:37.000 of jumping over. Well, thank you so much for taking 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.480 the time to join us. We really enjoyed the film 0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:41.799 and we just were so happy that you were able 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.520 to take some time to sit and talk with This 0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:44.080 has been great. 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:47.680 Yeah, thank you, Thanks for wanting to, you know, spread 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:51.640 some more love for Buffalo Dreams, you know. But it's amazing. 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.839 So if anybody else hasn't seen it out there on 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.000 this Disney uh what is it called? 0:50:57.080 --> 0:50:59.120 Magical Disney plus. 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:02.200 Disney Plus, check it out. Man, like the show out. 0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.880 It's still relevant. It is. I look older, but the 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:07.560 show is still relevant. 0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:10.800 It looks great. 0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:11.239 Thank you. 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.239 Also, go check out the Native Planet. I can't wait 0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:14.719 to see that. It sounds great. 0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:16.560 Check it out. I had you know, there's a couple 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.319 other shows. Hey, Victor, you know I'm about to take 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.640 off to do another film, so I'm I'm still at 0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:24.520 it at thirty some years later. 0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.359 That's amazing. Well, thank you so much for joining us. 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:30.040 We can't wait. Hopefully we'll have you back for some. 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:31.400 Awesome Thank you. 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:39.200 Thanks so much, Simon you guys man, gosh, there's so 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.200 much to talk about. First of all, that Native Planet 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:41.840 sounds amazing. 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:42.320 Wow. 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.680 I would never I don't think I could do it. 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.000 I think I'd have to force myself to do it 0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:47.279 to see if much of the world as I could. 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.200 But that would for you. 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:53.279 For Jaguar and anacondas he's talking about I. 0:51:53.200 --> 0:52:02.840 Am now, yeah, no, don't even believe that, you know, 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:08.719 not me, not I think I might try. No, no, 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:12.759 I would try. But good for him. 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.160 I'm glad that he filmed it so I still can 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:16.359 be somewhat a part of it. 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.239 That's one true he kind of He also kind of 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:21.680 buried the lead the idea. If you go back and 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:23.799 watch Buffalo Dreams with how active all the stuff he 0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:25.880 had to do with the bike riding and climbing, everything 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:29.000 to do he's doing all that on a giant broken 0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:32.759 bloody toe is kind of amazing crazy. Uh yeah, So 0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:34.920 everybody go check it out. It is great. And thank 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.560 you so much mister Simon Baker for joining us and 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:39.440 join us over on the other feet as we review 0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.399 awesome movies with awesome people, or come back to this 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:46.360 where next time we're gonna be talking to Timasimas somebody 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.960 else about some other movie. We never know, they just 0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.520 tell us and then we get to do all the research, 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.960 which is a ton of fun. So thank you everybody, 0:52:53.320 --> 0:53:03.520 and we will see you next time. Bye.