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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. Now,

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Speaker 1: there was a time. Let's talk about hip for a

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Speaker 1: moment and how important it is because it's taking the

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Speaker 1: world here by storm. Years ago, it was very legal

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Speaker 1: in this country and then it became illegal. What happened? Sure?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean hemp was always a major economic

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Speaker 1: backbone of our country. I mean, I go back to

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Speaker 1: the Thirteen Colonies, we grew hemp. You know, just from

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Speaker 1: the very beginning of our country. The British needed it

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Speaker 1: for their Royal Navy. It was used for sales or

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Speaker 1: rope for you know, all of their supplies uniform uniforms,

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Speaker 1: and you could even as a colonist, you could even

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Speaker 1: pay your taxes to the British government in hemp. So um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a very big crop back then.

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Speaker 1: I know, our founding fathers screw hemp. You know, George

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Speaker 1: Washington grew it out at all five of his farms.

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Speaker 1: And then when we get around the nineteen thirties, the

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Speaker 1: government was trying to the federal government was trying to

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Speaker 1: drum up some additional money in additional taxes, and the

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Speaker 1: Marijuana Tax Act came around and I'm sure you've heard

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Speaker 1: about that. That was the first piece of legislation that

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Speaker 1: really put hemp and marijuana together and started to really

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Speaker 1: kind of give this culture of confusion around what marijuana is,

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Speaker 1: what hemp is, what each one is used for, and

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Speaker 1: you know, didn't distinguish between the two, and that was

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Speaker 1: largely done on purpose. You know, we had William Randolph

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Speaker 1: Hurst who had the largest newspaper chain in the country

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Speaker 1: at the time. Hearst Communications is still around today. He

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Speaker 1: owns the forests that he used to produce all the

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Speaker 1: paper for his empire, and he always saw hemp as

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Speaker 1: a competition to him. UM. So did a lot of

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Speaker 1: other industries at the time because too didn't they right

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Speaker 1: right Uh, And at this particular time. UM. What's really

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Speaker 1: interesting is that, you know, hemp had always been around, UM,

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Speaker 1: but the tools to manufacture things out of hemp started

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Speaker 1: to UM, they started to get more modernized, and that's

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Speaker 1: what became the factor here where people saw it as

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Speaker 1: competition because UM, you know, he had obviously big cotton

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Speaker 1: industry at this time. UM. They were also UM industries

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Speaker 1: such as DuPont that were you know, rising petrochemical company. UM.

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Speaker 1: They had a lot of lucrative chemical patents at the time,

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Speaker 1: and they saw hemp as you know, a direct competition

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Speaker 1: as well, because a lot of them is that they

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Speaker 1: used to pull paper. Um. You know, hemp wasn't you know,

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Speaker 1: you didn't need those means to to make paper out

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Speaker 1: of hemp. Did people in those days smoke camp as well?

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Speaker 1: They they did smoke marijuana as far as I know.

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Speaker 1: It was also used in um for medical purposes. UM.

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Speaker 1: That we go into this in jesseven Tours Marijuana Manifesto

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Speaker 1: when we talk about how marijuana was impacted by this

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Speaker 1: particular law. UM. You know, this is a time when

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Speaker 1: morphine started to come about in the medical field and

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Speaker 1: they realized that they could really figure out the dosage

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Speaker 1: UM for you know, using that for pain management. UM.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of doctors did use like a hemp

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Speaker 1: um for marijuana oil to treat a lot of different

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Speaker 1: pain for their patients. So this is something that was

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Speaker 1: in the metal community at the time, and it affected

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Speaker 1: doctors as well. After this act was passed, if you

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Speaker 1: were a doctor and you were prescribing marijuana to a patient,

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Speaker 1: you had to actually report that information to the director

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Speaker 1: of the Bureau of Narcotics who was at the time,

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Speaker 1: Harry Anslinger. So a lot of people didn't want to

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Speaker 1: a list for using a medication that was going to

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Speaker 1: go to the Bureau of Narcotics and doctors didn't feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable doing that either. And then of course anyone that

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Speaker 1: you know, manufacturing it into something, or if you're prescribing marijuana,

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Speaker 1: weren't any other taxes placed on any other medications or

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Speaker 1: any other industrial crops. So people started to, you know, think, well,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of a risky thing, um to be

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Speaker 1: people weren't inclined to spend extra money, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: to to keep harvesting hemp. Now, hamp, of course is

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Speaker 1: part of the cannabis species, but it's different from marijuana.

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Speaker 1: What is the difference between the two plants. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: So UM, the greatest distinction is definitely the content of THHC.

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Speaker 1: So that's the psychoactive element in the plant in marijuana.

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Speaker 1: It's so that's, you know, really what marijuana is used for.

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Speaker 1: UM overall in general, there's there's really no other use

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Speaker 1: hemp plant, and the rest of it is uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's CBD in there, the cbd in both

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Speaker 1: marijuana and hemp. But the hemp plant is used for

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Speaker 1: making all different types of all different types of products,

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Speaker 1: from clothing to rope. As we talked about paper, now

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Speaker 1: we can get into plastics. There's a big movement to

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Speaker 1: dealerships today, like BMW, for instance, you use hemp in

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Speaker 1: it's more eco friendly to go that route. And it

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Speaker 1: also looks very different. Hemp looks more like bamboo, has

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Speaker 1: a long stock, where marijuana looks more like a tree

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Speaker 1: or bush. It has more of a shrub appearance. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about now what is going on with the future

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Speaker 1: of hemp gen next hour, we'll take phone calls with

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Speaker 1: our listeners who were fascinated by this topic. But at

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Speaker 1: what point did hemp start becoming legal again? So it's

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Speaker 1: been a slow process, obviously. I think most people know.

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Speaker 1: We grew hemp in World War Two for all sorts

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Speaker 1: of war purposes, for you know, making a parachute courts,

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Speaker 1: uniforms for our soldiers. And in the book I talk

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Speaker 1: about that how at that time, you know, the USDA

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Speaker 1: came in and helped farmers, you know, really grow as

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Speaker 1: much of the crop as possible. There were processing plants

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Speaker 1: make all of these things. And uh, even politicians said

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, oh yeah, I have them recorded in

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Speaker 1: the book. And you know, after World War Two, we

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Speaker 1: And by that time, you know, the synthetic fibers like

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Speaker 1: again the whole drive to make hemp into a you know,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine nine, Canada obviously started their own hemp

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Speaker 1: farmers who were like, well, wait a minute, why are

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Speaker 1: that point moving forward, there was always an advocacy effort

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Speaker 1: obviously by this time it was on the schedule and

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Speaker 1: narcotic list next to marijuana. You know, in the nineteen

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Speaker 1: one problem, especially you know, in our lifetime, to get

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Speaker 1: own guidelines. But in general, uh, these farmers were growing

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Speaker 1: you know, they are wondering, well, what's what's the future

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Speaker 1: become a reality. The uh, the Industrial Hemp Act was

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Speaker 1: schedule and narcotics list. It officially categoryized it as an

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Speaker 1: agricultural crop. And now because of that, farmers are able

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Speaker 1: everything that you could do in a normal business, but

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Speaker 1: you weren't able to do if you were growing hemp. Right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's changing now that hemp is legal. How rigorous is

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Speaker 1: it as a plant? Does it grow fast? Yes, it does.

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Speaker 1: eighty days, so you can really it's a pretty fast

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't take a lot of water the way

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Speaker 1: It's pretty dramatic. What about other countries, GM, what are

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Speaker 1: they doing in this arena? Well, um, you know besides Canada. Yeah, so, um,

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Speaker 1: hemp is we're actually importing a lot of hemp seed

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Speaker 1: different varieties of hemp in the book, and how there's

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Speaker 1: grow it mostly in France and in the European Union. UM.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're growing it for CBD oil, they're growing

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Speaker 1: it for um, you know, just about every purpose under

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Speaker 1: the sun. But yeah, I mean we're even importing Finnish

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Speaker 1: industrial hemp um for which is mostly used for grain

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Speaker 1: China in general wants to really capitalize on the CBD

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Speaker 1: market right now as a cash crop. How does it

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Speaker 1: that's where farmers can make the most money, right and

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Speaker 1: they were always known for growing tobacco. That was really

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Speaker 1: about an acre of soybeans deals about five hundred dollars,

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