1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Bulet cav Podcast special guests in here who just tore 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: down the freestyle. Go check that out on the YouTube channel. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: It's there as well. Harry Mack is here, Yes, sir, 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: welcome Man, Thanks for having me. Man. Hey, yeah, Man, 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: you've been on your shit lately, Bro, Thank you, Bro. 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Appreciate that. So, for people who don't know, you're kind 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: of known for your ability to rap very well, but 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: more importantly like off of the top of the dome, 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: which is something that is a lost art form. We 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: have a freestyle series on the show, and I would 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: venture to say ninety five percent of the bars that 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: have ever been wrapped on our show is written. We 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: still call them freestyles. Obviously that term is like evolved, 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: but like in the old school old head term that 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: me and you live by, you are the true definition 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: of a freestyle artist. Thank you, Bro. I appreciate that. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: But no, you've done a really good job of you know, 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: I feel like people before you who might have had 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: your talent also different eras right, but like you've done 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: a good job of like figuring out a way to 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: build like a universe and monetize your skill. So kind 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: of like you've had a great pandemic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: have Yeah. It's weird to say, you know, because obviously 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of pain for a lot of 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 1: people through the pandemic, and I think we've all brushed 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: shoulders with that pain in one way or another. But 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: from a business standpoint for me, and just from a 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: creative standpoint, you know, I've had the time and the 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: space to really build, like you say, build a universe 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: around what I'm doing, and kind of build a brand 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: around being an off top freestyler, right, you know, And 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: I think I'm really fortunate. Man. You mentioned how you know, 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: cats from from the previous era weren't always able to 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: monetize the off top freestyle thing. I feel really fortunate 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: to be alive in this Internet era, you know. I 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: really do think it's almost made for that. Yeah. That's 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: the difference, right. It's like now we live in a 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: time where, you know, previously it's like if you're an 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: incredibly talented off top freestyler, a record label is going 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: to be like, yo, that's dope, we don't know what 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: to do with it. Sorry. You know, it's like okay, cool. 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Like when you have a hit song, hit us up, 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, Meanwhile, this talent is like insane and everybody 44 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: who sees it live loves it, but it just doesn't 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: fit in with the structure that sort of exists already. Now, 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: we live in a time where anybody with a phone 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: can get on these free platforms and build a personal 48 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: brand with whatever they're into doing, and if there's an 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: audience for it that enjoys it, you can monetize it. 50 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I know you've been doing this for 51 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: a while. I first saw you on the Creuse Show. Yeah, 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: probably four or five years ago. And what is like 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: the platform that like really first started to really like 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: pop off for you in like a serious way. YouTube 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: was definitely the first in terms of like in terms 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: of social platforms you mean yea, yeah, yeah, YouTube was 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: the first one that was the big one actually, YouTube 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: and Facebook. Oddly enough, because I had a video back 59 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: in February twenty seventeen. It was just called Venice Beach 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Freestyle Part one and it was just me out there 61 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: on the Venice Boardwalk. Scary place to be nowadays, by 62 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: the way, I know, Yeah, it's a lot different now. Yeah, 63 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: post pandemic or whatever, mid pandemic through right now exactly 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: wherever we're at in this crazy timeline. What is time 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: anymore anyway? But uh no, man, Yeah, I was out there. 66 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: It was funny. We had been there all day trying 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: to freestyle for groups and stuff and just you know, 68 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: getting rejected, getting yelled at, hey, don't do this in 69 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: front of my store, no filming, no whatever, whatever, And 70 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: we were frustrated, and eventually my boy, who was with 71 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: me filming it on my phone, was like, yo, just 72 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: start wrapping and see what happens. So I started rhyming 73 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: on the on the boardwalk, and one by one, you know, 74 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: this crowd starts to form, and it was kind of 75 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: like it was very serendipitous, you know, the crowd that forms. 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: It looks like we hired people to be the crowd 77 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: because it's so like diverse. And there's like these like 78 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: preppy boys on bikes and like polos and shorts. Then 79 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: there's like this stoner couple with a big dude and 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the Bob Marley shirt, smoking an em you know, and 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: just one by one, it's like you get sort of 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: this whole picture of like the diversity of the Venice 83 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: strip in front of me. We ended up with like 84 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: forty or fifty people gathered around me and I'm wrapping 85 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: at everybody's clothes and everything like that, And that video 86 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: went super viral, both on YouTube and on Facebook, and 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: that was kind of the beginning of of people knowing 88 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: about Harry mag I guess, how long have you been 89 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: doing the omeegal freestyles? Yeah? I guess. Uh, we like 90 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: a year and a half, right, So you started that 91 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. I started it during the pandemic. Yeah, 92 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: let me ask you something, because that's a sketch place illegal. 93 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: You know, you might fuck around to go in there. 94 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: There's a fifty five year old truck driver jerking off, like, 95 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, absolutely, has that happened? That's specific? Maybe not 96 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: that's specific. Yeah, well he's like I didn't know his occupation, 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: but it was fifty five and Dick was out. I've 98 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: seen some things, definitely, I've seen some things, but not 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: as many. So here's the thing. It's funny actually, like 100 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: before the pandemic, people were making alegal content on YouTube, 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: and so people would be in my comments like, yo, 102 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: your shit would crush on amigal because really what I 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: make is reaction based content. It's about people who don't 104 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: know that I'm going to be dope and then I 105 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: do a freestyle and then hopefully I blow their mind. 106 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: And that's what's fun about watching it in a large part, 107 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: so people would hit me up and be like, do 108 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: it on amgal. But I knew kind of what was 109 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: up with amgal, and I think I just remember chat 110 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: roulette back in the day, exactly, and it was like 111 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: a dark place exactly. They always any any site that 112 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: randomly pairs strangers on video chat is a recipe for disaster. Yes, 113 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be corrupted. So I avoided amgal for 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: a long time, and then you know, a few months 115 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: into the pandemic, it's like, damn, we can't go out 116 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: and shoot our regular content, Like let me check this 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: out and see what's up. And actually now it's a 118 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: lot better than it used to be because they have 119 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: these tags, interest tags or whatever, so you could type 120 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: in hip hop, it's like whatever you're into. And they 121 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: also have much and that creates a lot more filtering. 122 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: So if you don't use those, you see a ton 123 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: of dicks. If you use those, I maybe see you know, 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: like in all my time making the series, honestly, in 125 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: terms of actually seeing a dick. I've probably seen like twenty. 126 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: It's a solid money and I have like sixty episodes, 127 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's more than I would say 128 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: terrible ratio though, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I 129 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: would have liked to have not seen anybody. I mean, 130 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: it's funny. He's not bad, That's what I'm saying. Like 131 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: people assume because people don't want there to try to 132 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: find me and they don't know about the interest tags 133 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: and then so they're just like, I can't find you 134 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: on me. I just keep seeing dicks. Yeah, and they're like, wow, 135 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: you must have a terrible PTSD, like you should be counseling, 136 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: Like the amount of dicks are exposed too must be absurd. 137 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: But it's really not. It's not as crazy. Yeah. Have 138 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: you had like a bad experience on there, like where 139 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: you were freestyling and something weird happened. I've had some 140 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: sketch experiences on there while I'm freestyling. Yeah, like where 141 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: where I stopped the freestyling was like, Bro, you know, 142 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: you need to get help, like people doing like weird 143 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: drugs and stuff like on the on the screen where 144 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: like you're wrapping and then someone comes up with a 145 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: meth pipe, Like yeah, essentially, Yeah, like I don't know 146 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: what's in it, and it could be a prop, you know, 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: it could be they could be trolling. But it's still 148 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: just like insanely uncomfortable and I stop it and I'm like, oh, 149 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: don't don't do that. Yeah, And also and everyone can 150 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: see your face and like, don't do you know, people 151 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: don't understand the internet. It feels like, you know where 152 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, man, like people forget that that 153 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: shit is there forever. Yeah, it's on a server somewhere 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: at least forever. And you've got to assume people are 155 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 1: screencapping everything you're doing. This is true. So what about 156 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: the TikTok? And I know you were on Twitch a lot, right, 157 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: So like those are obviously kind of two platforms that 158 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people I know, especially DJs, 159 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: took advantage of Twitch big time during the pandemic. Yeah, 160 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: and man, I know some people who are getting crazy 161 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: checks just DJing on Twitch. Hell yeah, how did the 162 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Twitch shit for you? Like, cause you know, in the 163 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: hip hop community, we got Kenny Beads is huge on Twitch. 164 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: But like, how did you kind of turn what you 165 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: do into something that worked for the Twitch. Yeah, so 166 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: with what I do, you know, being being as it's 167 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: all kind of improvised off top, It's like what I 168 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: need is some kind of randomization, you know, like people 169 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: in the chat like, yeah, exactly, we just did a freestyle. 170 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: You threw me words out loud. That's always dope. That's 171 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: like the classic way of doing this, and uh, you know, 172 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: in this case, it's just a live chat feed people 173 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: putting words in there. Yeah. Yeah, So basically any like 174 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: live streaming platform, book, live YouTube, live Twitch, they all 175 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: work really well for what I do. The only the 176 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: learning curve was like reading it and incorporating it from 177 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: a written word as opposed to hearing it out loud. 178 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: It's different. It's like a slightly different part of the 179 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: brain or something. I don't know the science of it, 180 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: but it was a bit of a challenge in the 181 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: beginning because rhyme is all about sound. It has nothing 182 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to do with how something spells, like Devil doesn't rhyme 183 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: with evil. They look like they rhyme correct, but they don't. 184 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: So you kind of it's like I have to read 185 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: it and then hear it in my head, and then 186 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, now I know where to go 187 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: while you're wrapping, while you're at Yeah, it's a lot 188 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: of multitasking. It's kind of a what at what point 189 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: in time were you able to say to yourself, I 190 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: can fully support my life off of my skill. Wow, 191 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I feel like it was like 192 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. I feel like twenty eighteen, I did a 193 00:08:54,040 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Mitsubishi commercial and uh, it was crazy because I I 194 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: was used to being like pretty much broke. You know, 195 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm a jazz drummer. I don't know if you know that, 196 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: but I did not know that my background. Yeah, so 197 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: my background is playing jazz gigs, and so that was 198 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: like your gig, like, like you besides rapping you were 199 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: that was like pay the bills and teaching drum lessons. Yeah. 200 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: I've been a professional musician supporting myself for a long time, 201 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think like ten years. Yeah. But but 202 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: the hustle of a of a jazz drummer in the 203 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: modern world, as you might imagine, is a serious, an 204 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: intense hustle, serious hustle. It's an intense hull and it's 205 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: not you know, it's not glamorous in any sense. I mean, 206 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: I was playing like bar gigs where we're crammed in 207 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: a corner and just being told play quieter, play quieter. 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: You know, you're disturbing whatever, you know, don't do your thing, 209 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: so like stop being so aggressive, and you're out there 210 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: trying to pour your soul into this thing you love. 211 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, we're doing here for the ambiance. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 212 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: and we're getting paid fifty bucks or something. And the 213 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: first couple of gigs we got free drinks. Second gig, 214 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, the bar is not gonna do the 215 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: free drink thing anymore. But same time, you cool. And 216 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: so it's a tough grind. Shout out to all the 217 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: jazz musicians, by the way, and I have a lot 218 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: of friends who are still in that world crushing it, right, 219 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: and I know what it really means to be crushing 220 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: it in that world, So shouts out to anybody doing that. 221 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: But for me, you know, I was like barely making 222 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: my rant, barely barely getting by doing jazz gigs. And 223 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: then in twenty eighteen, I did I got hired to 224 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: do a commercial for Mitsubishi, which was like kind of 225 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: based on my videos where I'm dressed up like car 226 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: salesman at the Mitsubeci dealership and then people getting the 227 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: car to test drive it, and I'm sitting next to them, 228 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: and then I'd start rhyming about the car and shit 229 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: like that out of nowhere and get reactions and stuff. 230 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: And that was my first like check kind of you know, 231 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: and it wasn't anything crazy, but like for me at 232 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: the time, it was like more money than I'd ever seen. 233 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: It was like just enough to be like, oh, I 234 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: got to keep doing this exactly, working exactly exactly. And 235 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: I knew before that that I had to keep leaning 236 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: into the freestyle thing just from like the popularity of 237 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: the videos and how much energy there was around it, 238 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: but that was the first time I kind of like 239 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: got paid and uh. And then I took some time 240 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: away from YouTube and was like working on a project 241 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like an album. Yeah, and that 242 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: was cool, but I kind of like I lived off 243 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: the money from Mitsubishi for it. It It was like a 244 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: label advance almost, you know. Luckily I didn't owe it 245 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: back here, but I lived off it for a while 246 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: and like worked on shit and didn't really think about 247 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: like what am I gonna do when this gets low, 248 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: And sure enough it got low, and again I was 249 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: at a point where I was like, Yo, I'm gonna 250 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: have to like apply to Trader Joe's and fucking start. 251 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to like get a fucking job, you know. 252 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: Like I looked up one day and was like, I'm 253 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to get a job. And then uh and 254 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: shout out to my girlfriend, who was like, fuck that, 255 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: Like you're dope, man. Like people, you have a fan base, 256 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: you just have to activate some more of this shit 257 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: and like figure out how to monetize. And that's when 258 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: I started diving deep into like, Okay, how can I 259 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: use YouTube like a YouTuber, you know what I mean? 260 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Like how can I actually build this out and make 261 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: money off it? And how can I do the same 262 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: on ig and Twitch and things of that nature. 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Fuck 278 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: all that other bullshit y'all be wearing on your ass, 279 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: Throw all the methicas in the trash, all that PSD shit, 280 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: all that shit is all listen, man, put them odd 281 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: socks on your ass cheeks and thank me later. I 282 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: was gonna say, do you think that I think? What 283 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: I know? This was a lot of the creatives that 284 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: I know. The pandemic kind of helped a lot of 285 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: people finally shine because it kind of like reset the 286 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: world and kind of like I feel like it kind 287 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: of everybody was starting from the same place, yes, because 288 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, people were going out to the clubs. Like 289 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the Best Albums of 290 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: the Year nominees in twenty twenty, it was like Royce 291 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: and Jay, Electronica and Freddie Gibbs and it was just 292 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: like all this ill rap shit. Yeah, like I feel 293 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: like like a certain amount of like maybe it's time 294 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: opening up or the way people are consuming shit. But 295 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: did you feel like an uptick in your shit, like 296 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: when everything shut down big time? I think it was 297 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: a few things for everyone, and maybe a few things 298 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: specifically for me. But one was like everybody was at 299 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: home and everybody was scared, you know what I mean, 300 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: or uncomfortable or sad or whatever, and people were just 301 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: looking for content to distract them or to consume their time. 302 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: You know, people were just sitting on the couch one 303 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: of the watch something, you know, to pass the time. 304 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: And so people who were providing content suddenly had an 305 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: opportunity like to really step up. I think the other 306 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: thing is like previously, it's like Hollywood is doing these 307 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: big budgets, super produced things, and everybody else is at 308 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: home with their little webcam. But then all of a sudden, 309 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: like overnight, it was like you go on Netflix and 310 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: people are on webcams. You watch the news and it's 311 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: like the shitty webcams, you know what I mean, Like 312 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: everybody was at home proome content with the same webcams, 313 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: and like suddenly the tech part was taken out of 314 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: it kind of where it's like it's not such a 315 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: huge difference between a random YouTube content creator and like 316 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: what you're seeing on TV. And so that was kind 317 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: of like a leveler I feel like in a lot 318 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: of ways, Like figure it was a level playing field 319 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: in exact way. And so then it just came back 320 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: to the quality of what you're making, you know. It 321 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: just came back to like, if you're making something valuable, 322 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: then you have a you have a chance to really win, 323 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah that's real man. Yeah. Pandemic was good 324 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. I mean, obviously I'm talking 325 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: about just career wise, Like I feel like people people 326 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: definitely like the people who took advantage of the circumstances. 327 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: You know, well, what did they say when someone gives 328 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: you shit? Turn it in? Lemonade? An Atmosphere album? Yes, yeah, 329 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: isn't that an atmosphere album? It is, it is, but 330 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: it's something it's a twist one, not that it's a twist. 331 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: Whatever I just said is not the name of the album, 332 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: but there's some sort of atmosphere album that's close close 333 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: enough to that. Yes, what are you working on right now? 334 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Do you have anything coming? Like? I know you're putting 335 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: out weekly videos and you're you're on your ship, but 336 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: like as far as like, are you gonna put out 337 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: original music soon? Definitely? Definitely. Yeah, I'm going hard on 338 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: the video content as always, but yeah, in terms of 339 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: original music, I've been having a lot of fun, man, 340 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: exploring kind of how to use my freestyling to create records, 341 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, because I just don't I don't 342 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: like to write, Like I don't enjoy sitting with a 343 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: If I sit with a blank page and a pen, 344 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know how to wrap, and 345 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: I'll just sit there forever looking at it like I 346 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: what would I what would I ever write right now? 347 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: You know? And then as soon as it's like okay, 348 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: play the beat and start the mic, Then as soon 349 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: as I start rapping, I remember how to wrap. So 350 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: for me, it's just a thing about process. But we've 351 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: actually released two little mini EPs, like little three song 352 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: projects in the last six months or so that were 353 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: either fully off top or or like a hybrid where 354 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: it's like I'll jot some ideas and then kind of 355 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: just go in the booth and go off top. And 356 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: the fan base has been rocking with them, man, and 357 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: so I'm excited to continue exploring that path. We just 358 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: released one called Soliloquies about a month ago that that 359 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: people are rocking with on my YouTube and stuff like that, 360 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: and those are coming out to like DSP, Spotify and 361 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: Apple Music and all that. So I want to continue 362 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: kind of exploring that process of doing what I'm comfortable 363 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: with but still being able to release like official albums 364 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: and projects. What like inspired you to start freestyling back 365 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: in the day, Like what was that first? Like you know, yeah, 366 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: It's funny because there's a couple of like really early childhood, 367 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: Like I saw Wayne Brady on Who's Line when I 368 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: was in third grade and I was like what I 369 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: was like, I asked my mom. I was like, wait, 370 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: what's the trick? Like they give him the stuff ahead, 371 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: he wrote it in advance and there are a plan 372 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Like I was the skeptic in my comment section when 373 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: I first saw Yeah, because he would make songs about 374 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: people you know, but he would sing and stuff. It 375 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: was on whose line, but he would learn their job, 376 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: favorite color, whatever, whatever, and create this like brilliant song 377 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: with the chorus and stuff off the top. That was 378 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: the first time my mind got blown from like lyrical 379 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: improv and then from a hip hop standpoint, without a doubt, 380 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: the person that lit the fire for me was Supernatural Supernat. Yeah, yeah, 381 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: shout out to Supernat, like he's the goat freestyler. I agree, 382 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, I was exposed to a project he had 383 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: called the Lost Freestyle Files. When I was in like 384 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: sixth grade. I would walk up to Music Millennium. It 385 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: was the record store by my house, and one of 386 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: the dudes who worked there was a hip hop head. 387 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: So at the end of the hip hop aisle he 388 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: would put like his top five picks of the week, 389 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: and one week, one of those top five picks was 390 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Supernatural Lost Freestyle Files. And I didn't know who Supernat was, 391 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: but I was already into freestyling. We would watch like 392 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: one oh six in Park Battles and stuff like that 393 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: and just try to try to do our little freestyle. 394 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: You know. We were super whack, but we were having 395 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: fun and uh so I saw it in just off 396 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: the strength of the title. I was like, oh, freestyle files. 397 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: I like the freestyle, let's check it out. And good 398 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: thing I did, because that record definitely blew my fucking mind. Man, 399 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: like that shit, because when I heard Supernat again, it 400 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: was like the first time I saw Wayne Brady where 401 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: I was like, it's not possible, Like, how is it 402 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: so smooth? It sounds written, but yet he's incorporating these 403 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: things that are proving you know that it's not written, 404 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: and so like, just that alone was enough of a 405 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: spark for me to want to like do a deep 406 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: dive and try to figure that out, and from there 407 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: you you expand the universe. He had a battle with Juice, 408 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: so I started checking out Juice and then you get 409 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: on YouTube, and you know, we were into rhyme sayers 410 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: and atmosphere and them, and I learned about idea, Who's 411 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: another idea, phenomenal freestyler, rest in peace, So yeah, freestyle fellowship. 412 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: You know, bit by bit, we were just nerdy kids 413 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: trying to learn about the shit. And but yeah, definitely, 414 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: Supernat was the first dude in a hip hop context 415 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: that blew my mind with the freestyle and then you've 416 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: just been sharpening your sword. Yeah yeah, I'm upset, like 417 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm it's scary. I'm scary. It is pretty crazy. Man, 418 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: you're fucking yeah. Man, that's no like, uh, you're one 419 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: of them ones. Oh thank you, Bro. I appreciate that. 420 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. It is just it really it comes 421 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: down to practice and commitment and putting the time in. 422 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: You know. I always try to mention that because people 423 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: see what I do and they're like they're baffled by 424 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: it because they've never thought about how that would work right, 425 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the same way I felt when I heard Supernad and 426 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: they're just like, yo, Like, how's it feel to be 427 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: born with this? Like incredible blessing and shit like that. 428 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: I think I was born with a spark, for sure. 429 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I think I have a talent for improv and knack 430 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: for it, But for sure, my first freestyles were whack. 431 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: You would never hear my first freestyles and be like, 432 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: he's got it? Would you ever do? What? Have they 433 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: ever hit you? You do wilding out? No, not officially, 434 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: not officially. They got to get you on wilding out 435 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: your body. Everybody on there, I feel like you're just 436 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: too nice for wilding out though, Oh, because you mean, 437 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: like literally, like you're a sweet guy. It's true, man, 438 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: Like I don't battle. People see what I do and 439 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: they're like, you crush the battle scene Like yeah, yeah, man, 440 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm too nice for that shit. Yeah exactly, I don't 441 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: really like this people. You don't want to just black 442 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: China and make her cry, right exactly? Wilding out? Yeah, No, 443 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: I think that would be the next thing for you. 444 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: Got to do that, wi wilding out. I would love to, Seriously, 445 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: I would love you. Yeah, I would love to, and 446 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: I think you would be uh. I mean obviously you 447 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: would kill it. You'd be the best guy on there, 448 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, easily. But look, I appreciate you coming through. 449 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: Uh soon, it's gonna be You got a couple EPs 450 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: out now, Yeah, weekly videos, Your TikTok is going crazy. 451 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: Everything's going crazy. But the big thing right now, Bro, 452 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm going on tour tour this year. Yeah, I'm going 453 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: on tour Energy Exchange twenty twenty two is then your headlining. 454 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm headlining. It is my headlining tour. Wow, So you're 455 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: gonna do crowd work work the crowd. Yeah, it's a 456 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: fully improvised set, even what we'll do if we might. 457 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to leave anything. But basically it's a 458 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: fully improvised set and uh, it's gonna be crazy. We 459 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: got to test it out a few times. Uh here 460 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: in LA. We've done some shows here and it goes 461 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: crazy and it's gonna be wild. So check it out. 462 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: We're starting in February and we're going across the US 463 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: all the way through through the top of May. Wow, 464 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: good luck, don't catch that omicron. I know. Hopefully we're pasting. 465 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Everyone's getting it now, so I hope, I hope we 466 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: don't have a new joint by that time. I'm boom, 467 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: there it is man Harry mag