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Speaker 1: Friends Forever. M No singing today, No Greg Salesman, Frank
Speaker 1: Sample here, very serious day. On an overreaction Monday, Fantacy
Speaker 1: Best Friends Forever. A wild wild Week one saw a
Speaker 1: ton of injuries. We had five different wide receivers with
Speaker 1: fifteen plus targets in a game, something that didn't happen
Speaker 1: in a single game at all last season. Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: who dren sixty eight all purpose yards, three touchdowns. It
Speaker 1: was a wild wild Week one. So we'll be reacting
Speaker 1: to that, obviously overreacting. Well, we'll find out for overreacting
Speaker 1: or not. And to do that. Craig Susman, he is
Speaker 1: out celebrating the new year. I have my good buddy
Speaker 1: Fantasy tas Jim Day, Jim, what's going on? Man? Hey, Frank,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Looking forward to talking some
Speaker 1: football with you. Did I did I do a good
Speaker 1: job of describing how wild the Week one actually was
Speaker 1: to start the show. It was definitely pretty wild and
Speaker 1: you know, very unique in a lot of instances. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to talk about it and just
Speaker 1: try and pick it apart. Yes, So, as I mentioned
Speaker 1: overreaction Monday, I mean, look, there's a very popular thing
Speaker 1: to do. The first Monday after Week one. We have
Speaker 1: a lot to dissect. I mean you might be out
Speaker 1: of your survivor pools already because the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: got upset by the Tampa Bay Bucks. I had the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. I think I believe Greg Susman did as well.
Speaker 1: We spoke about that last week Fantasy best Friends Forever.
Speaker 1: We mentioned the Ravens were our survivor picks, and I
Speaker 1: had them in both of them. I didn't try to differentiate.
Speaker 1: It didn't go with one Ravens, one Roland Saints. I
Speaker 1: took the Ravens and I stuck with that. Jim, do
Speaker 1: you have any Survivor picks this week. I also took
Speaker 1: to Ravens. I agree. I went with one I thought
Speaker 1: was just gonna be an easy pick in week one
Speaker 1: and try not to be too fancy about it. There
Speaker 1: you go, right, It seems so easy to write, because
Speaker 1: when else are you gonna use the Baltimore Ravens. When
Speaker 1: else are you gonna feel that strongly about using the
Speaker 1: Ravens at home against Nathan Peterman and the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: And they go out there and they know they just
Speaker 1: went forty seven to three, so absolutely wild game. We'll
Speaker 1: get into the good the bad, and as I mentioned
Speaker 1: the Bills because I don't I don't even you can't
Speaker 1: even put them under the category of bad. They were
Speaker 1: just they were historically bad. It was atrocious. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: gay Maartcie, if you're still downstairs in the control room,
Speaker 1: I'm crushing the Bills right now, but rightfully so, I
Speaker 1: think they deserve it for seven to three. I mean,
Speaker 1: what more can you say about that? Before we get
Speaker 1: into some of the overreaction, is the good stuff that happened,
Speaker 1: the bad stuff that happened. Jim's gonna go around and
Speaker 1: discuss some of the injury related news that we have
Speaker 1: as of right now. Um start off with Doug Baldwin
Speaker 1: right diagnosed with a right MCL spraining. You know, some
Speaker 1: people might try and take this as a good thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we necessarily frame it as a
Speaker 1: good thing. But the only good part of this is
Speaker 1: that it's not the same knee that he was dealing
Speaker 1: with in the preseason. He was dealing with his left knee.
Speaker 1: But now the bad news is that he now has
Speaker 1: two bum knees and it's only Week one. I like
Speaker 1: I I have a feeling that this is just gonna
Speaker 1: end up being a washed season for Doug Baldwin. Is
Speaker 1: crazy to say, and that's why we're here. Is an
Speaker 1: overreaction on Monday, But like expect from him with two
Speaker 1: bum knees, a guy that didn't have record a single
Speaker 1: reception in Week one against the Broncos. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: a pretty tough match of going up against Chris Harrison
Speaker 1: that secondary. You know, people still, uh they want to
Speaker 1: devalue the the Broncos defense a little bit because they
Speaker 1: lost the keep to leave. But as a Doug Baldwin
Speaker 1: owner in multiple leagues, I am very, very worried about
Speaker 1: this in week one, Jim Day, No, you have to
Speaker 1: be there's no doubt about it. H you know, an
Speaker 1: mcl sprain is always tough. Uh, probably not looking good
Speaker 1: for him in the week two. He could actually miss
Speaker 1: up to three to four weeks with this sprain, depending
Speaker 1: on what grade it is. But uh, you know, as
Speaker 1: somebody who has a very bad knee, a lot of
Speaker 1: times what happens with one bad knee is that you
Speaker 1: tend to favor the other one and eventually you end
Speaker 1: up putting too much strain on the other one, so
Speaker 1: makes that a little weaker as well. This, you know,
Speaker 1: this is definitely something to be concerned with with Baldwin.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Hopefully it's just a low
Speaker 1: grade injury. Maybe comes back in two weeks. I definitely
Speaker 1: don't think we see him in week two, but hopefully
Speaker 1: we can see him in week three going forward. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's certainly true. And it was. You know, Doug Baldon
Speaker 1: was like a roller coaster in the preseason, Jim, because
Speaker 1: early on in the draft season, late July early August,
Speaker 1: I was trying to get plenty of shares of Doug Baldwin.
Speaker 1: I was very interested in him because all the targets
Speaker 1: that were left behind with no Jimmy Graham leaving behind
Speaker 1: about a hundred targets, Paul Richardson about eighty targets. So
Speaker 1: that's a hundred and eighty targets between two players that
Speaker 1: were gone. And in Jimmy Graham, we know what he
Speaker 1: did in the red zone last year in terms of
Speaker 1: demanding targets in that area of the field. So I
Speaker 1: was very excited about Doug Baldwin. Then we got the
Speaker 1: knee injury early on in camp and he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on. I'm good for week one, and
Speaker 1: then towards the end of training camp it comes out
Speaker 1: that he's only So this is an absolute roller coaster
Speaker 1: ride with Doug Baldwin. It's crazy. Um, I drafted him
Speaker 1: in a few leagues. Look, whatever I tell people to do,
Speaker 1: I actually do myself. And I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: you are the same exact way. I told people that
Speaker 1: I moved Doug Baldwin back into that two three swing,
Speaker 1: and right now I'm suffering for it because I drafted
Speaker 1: him in multiple leagues. Over Tyreek Hill, oh overhill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're definitely suffering for that. Look um. You know again,
Speaker 1: it's hard to overreact after one week. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that we'll probably talk about it you know,
Speaker 1: you mentioned it earlier, is that we saw a multitude
Speaker 1: of top, top, top wide receivers get you know, over
Speaker 1: fifteen targets and the reason for that is easy. I mean,
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks were looking for the guys they know and trust,
Speaker 1: They know where they are, they know where they're going
Speaker 1: to be, and they can feel that they can just
Speaker 1: use them as needed because they just haven't had any
Speaker 1: chance to work with the team as a whole against
Speaker 1: an opponent. So these guys were looking for their number
Speaker 1: one guys and that consistent. That will change as the
Speaker 1: weeks go on and everybody gets starting to melt together
Speaker 1: as a team. But in week one that you know,
Speaker 1: isn't that big a surprise. And I think as a
Speaker 1: result of this Doug Baldwin news think Brandon Marshall is
Speaker 1: going to be a very very popular waiver wire target
Speaker 1: this week in FAB as well as Tyler Lockett if
Speaker 1: he wasn't drafted in your league, because obviously if he
Speaker 1: can't go. We saw a bit of a report there
Speaker 1: with Brandon Marshall as well targeted multiple times in the
Speaker 1: red zone, so that'll be interesting to see how that
Speaker 1: pans out him. Also, the Titans, this team looks it
Speaker 1: looks like a crap shoot already. It's Week one. I
Speaker 1: can't tell if I'm overreacted to this, but look, Delaney Walker,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much done for the season already. We know that.
Speaker 1: I believe it was a fractured ankle. Obviously a gruesome
Speaker 1: injury for a player of his age thirty three thirty
Speaker 1: four years old. He was dealing with the injury in
Speaker 1: training camp as well, and then Marcus Mariota leaves with
Speaker 1: an elbow injury. Derrick Henry did not look great. The
Speaker 1: running back usage very very frustrating already. Um so what
Speaker 1: are you making from this from the Tennessee Titans. It
Speaker 1: looked like an absolute mess in Week one against the Dolphins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this offense was definitely all over the place. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: face it up. Mariota, even before he got injured, just
Speaker 1: didn't look very good, which was surprising after pretty pretty
Speaker 1: decent preseason. But you know, nine for sixteen only a
Speaker 1: hundred three yards but two interceptions, not a good start
Speaker 1: for him. Uh It, you know, it looks like he'll
Speaker 1: be okay that the elbow so far doesn't seem to
Speaker 1: be too bad. We'll know more after today when they
Speaker 1: do some more work on on it and take some
Speaker 1: more shots of it and see where we're at. But
Speaker 1: at this point, you know, without him, it's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be scary. With Blaine Gabbert, I'm the center. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: Gabard is definitely not somebody who really puts any kind
Speaker 1: of fear in opponents. And the good thing that comes
Speaker 1: out of this is that I think we start to
Speaker 1: see a lot more Dion Lewis like we did yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dan Lewis dominated the snaps yesterday, and we went over
Speaker 1: to another situation. Look the Tennessee Titans. I'm I'm worried
Speaker 1: about them. I'm worried about their offense right now. If
Speaker 1: you drafted pieces of those running backs, I think you
Speaker 1: feel good about Dion Lewis. I think that is predicated
Speaker 1: on game flow, that running back situation. If they're winning
Speaker 1: games and they're up in a game, I think Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry is obviously going to be the running back to
Speaker 1: have that week. But you're not really gonna know going
Speaker 1: into a week, right Like we thought that this Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans Miami Dolphins matchup would be pretty close, and it
Speaker 1: turns out that the Titans ended up trailing for a
Speaker 1: lot of this game. And because of that, Dion Lewis
Speaker 1: was the guy to own this week. And I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very, very frustrating weekend and week out
Speaker 1: trying to figure out which running back to use. I
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna know on a weekly basis. Obviously
Speaker 1: it depends on game flow, but we're not going to
Speaker 1: know that. One more injury I wanted to talk on.
Speaker 1: Obviously Aaron Rodgers was a big injury as well. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait till we get some some tests on that,
Speaker 1: but obviously he came back in. It looked like he
Speaker 1: was playing on one leg, but he was still Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He went off for two hundred and eighty five yards
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. I want to mention Leonard Fournette and I
Speaker 1: was not a Leonard four Nett guy coming into the year, Jim,
Speaker 1: And it didn't have to do with the hamstring. It
Speaker 1: just had to do with the foot the ankle. But
Speaker 1: again we saw last year that when once he was
Speaker 1: dealing with a leg injury. He was not the same
Speaker 1: player he was pre injury verse post injury. He was
Speaker 1: much more explosive before that foot and ankle injury last year.
Speaker 1: And now he has his hamstring that he's already dealing
Speaker 1: with in week one, and you know, to keep using
Speaker 1: the word overreact, I don't want to, but this seems
Speaker 1: to me like something that can lager an entire season, Jim.
Speaker 1: Hamstring injuries are always a problem. You know, hopefully they
Speaker 1: take it slow with him, don't try to rush him back.
Speaker 1: That's usually the problem when you try and rush your
Speaker 1: player back from a hamstring injury. It's so prone to
Speaker 1: being injured again that you run real big risk with that.
Speaker 1: This is their bell cow guy, This is the guy
Speaker 1: they want to carry the load. So I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised at all if we see him sit at least
Speaker 1: one week. He said after the game. He could have
Speaker 1: returned to the game. But you know, again, with a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury, you have to take it slow. You have
Speaker 1: to be careful, and it's gonna be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what they do here. That's up, Jim. And yet the
Speaker 1: Giants still lost, and yet you are hearing the sweet,
Speaker 1: sweet sounds of Chris Venture the analysts. You can listen
Speaker 1: to him and Fantasy Taz Jim Day on the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Frenzy Venture. I want to I wish I can
Speaker 1: apologize for the Giants losing, but it honestly brought a
Speaker 1: smile to my face. I'm sorry it didn't. I can
Speaker 1: understand you hate the Giants and because the Jets, you know, yeah, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: I have to throw in two points here. First of all,
Speaker 1: the one thing I did like was that the Giants
Speaker 1: defense played much better in the second half than they
Speaker 1: did the first half. They started to come together. They
Speaker 1: did a lot of three and ounce against Jacksonville, which
Speaker 1: was nice. Again, I will reiterate another point. They need
Speaker 1: to get rid of Eric Flowers. I don't care who
Speaker 1: are they doing. They need to get rid of Eric Flowers.
Speaker 1: He's got to be the worst tackle in football. I've
Speaker 1: hated him since they drafted him. They need to get
Speaker 1: his ass out of it. But there's an even bigger problem, though,
Speaker 1: more than Eric Flowers. It's Eli Manning. I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but it's we were talking about this downstairs.
Speaker 1: A lot of its stand from Eric Flowers, the offensive line.
Speaker 1: You were telling me that they needed more mobile quarterback.
Speaker 1: They Giants have won Super Bowls without a mobile quarterback
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning. But it all starts with the offensive line.
Speaker 1: So I have to go with Jim on this one. Look,
Speaker 1: if you improve that offensive line, you're showing out money
Speaker 1: to Odell Beckham, use money on a backup tight end
Speaker 1: last year and Rhett Ellison rather than going out and
Speaker 1: spending on your offensive line. Well, yes, they added pieces
Speaker 1: to their offensive line this offseason, but they also lost
Speaker 1: pieces to that offensive line, so you're kind of just
Speaker 1: mitigated what you lost and you still have Eric Flowers
Speaker 1: on that offensive line. So I'm kind of I'm with Jim, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is all Eli Manning's fall. You
Speaker 1: give the guy's weapons, you gotta be able to protect him.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not all Eli's fault. Part of it is
Speaker 1: McAdoo messed up a lot of things here and Sherman's
Speaker 1: trying to clean it up. And he did a good
Speaker 1: job again and sold it. But you know, obviously you
Speaker 1: can't fix the whole old line, and you know, one day,
Speaker 1: but I think the old line is good enough. See Eli,
Speaker 1: when he won those Super Bowls, he had a great
Speaker 1: defense or a great defensive line both those years. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we had a great offensive line and great running game.
Speaker 1: We had two thousand yard rushes that first year when
Speaker 1: we won the Super Bowl. So Eila needs compliments to himself.
Speaker 1: He can't be the star. He's not Aaron Rodgers. He
Speaker 1: can't carry the team. He needs help. We got Barkley.
Speaker 1: That was the That was the key. If we could
Speaker 1: rely on Barkley, Eli will do good. If Barkley does well,
Speaker 1: we have the weapons. The problem is Eli over threw
Speaker 1: that like three times that in that game yesterday. He
Speaker 1: that pick. He throws so many balls low near the line.
Speaker 1: Gabes said it earlier on Carton and Friends. All the time,
Speaker 1: he's guaranteed two deflected balls of the line all the time,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times ends up being a pick
Speaker 1: because it gets hit up in the air, and that
Speaker 1: ruined the game. It was a pick six. The game's
Speaker 1: over right there. But he also had receptions that were
Speaker 1: completed down the field, two guys like Evan Ingram that
Speaker 1: revoked because of holding penalties by Eric Flower. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: definitely a lot of things that need to be fixed.
Speaker 1: But let's move on the new York Giants hour. You
Speaker 1: came up here with the Yankee had on an agenda.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about Eli Manning and New York Giants.
Speaker 1: Save it for the Fantasy Football Frenzy where you could
Speaker 1: talk to Corey about the NFC East and Utred Cowboys offense. Corey,
Speaker 1: I am sorry to say it, but it is not
Speaker 1: looking good after a Week one for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I mentioned we're gonna talk about the good the bad,
Speaker 1: and I want to start with some good here. This
Speaker 1: is the stat of the day. This is per Nathan
Speaker 1: Jankee at PFF Underscore. Nate jan Kee j A h
Speaker 1: n k E puts out great, great stats, uh regarding
Speaker 1: snap counts and snap percentage for running backs, and he
Speaker 1: had this to say, Joe Mixon playing over seventy eight
Speaker 1: percent the Bengals offensive snaps in Week one. That is
Speaker 1: his highest percentage since being drafted by Cincinnati. So, Jim,
Speaker 1: I'll go to you first, and I'm just gonna make
Speaker 1: a bold claim here and you tell me if I'm
Speaker 1: overreacting or not. Joe Mixing seventeen rushes for ninety five yards,
Speaker 1: a touchdown, seven targets, five receptions, fifty four yards Hugh
Speaker 1: Bernard one rush minus one yard, one target, one reception,
Speaker 1: eleven yards. Joe Mixing is going to be a top
Speaker 1: twelve running back to hear Jim. If he continues to
Speaker 1: get that kind of opportunity, that kind of usage in
Speaker 1: the passing game. I'm with you, no doubt about it. Uh.
Speaker 1: He showed. Look, we all knew he had the talent.
Speaker 1: We were worried about him because the offensive line was
Speaker 1: so terrible. Least here they obviously improved it. They looked
Speaker 1: a lot better in this offensive line yesterday. Mixing is
Speaker 1: a talent. And if he continues to get this workload
Speaker 1: and that kind of surrounded played by the offensive line,
Speaker 1: then sure, I'm with you. I do think at some
Speaker 1: point Bernard will be a little bit bigger of a
Speaker 1: player than he was yesterday. But Mixing is definitely the guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know when Bernard's gonna be the big player when
Speaker 1: they play a team that's actually good on defense. Uh,
Speaker 1: that team is awful the Colts on defense, So you
Speaker 1: can run the ball down, then he could do what
Speaker 1: you want. Um, I feel like if the game script
Speaker 1: applies Mixing, Yeah, I'm I'm sold now. Listen, I was
Speaker 1: against it. I didn't like mixing. I'm wrong. The guy's
Speaker 1: got super talent, I know that, but I think he
Speaker 1: could do a good job. I think he might be
Speaker 1: inconsistent times, he might have bad games here and there,
Speaker 1: but overall he should be a rock solid RB two,
Speaker 1: possibly an RB one, like you said Top twelve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with the statement that
Speaker 1: you made about game flow right, because we saw two
Speaker 1: different game flows within one game with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: They were they were trailing for a lot of this game,
Speaker 1: and then they got up in this game, and regardless
Speaker 1: of what was happening, Joe Mixon was the guy on
Speaker 1: the field, which I think is the biggest takeaway from
Speaker 1: this game. You know, a reason why I shied away
Speaker 1: from Joe Mixon during draft season is because I looked
Speaker 1: into the past Geo Bernard usage. The guy has consistently
Speaker 1: played thirty five plus percent of the snaps while Marvin Lewis,
Speaker 1: while he's been there with Marvin Lewis. So I figured,
Speaker 1: once again, I'm like, look, Geo Bernard is not going away.
Speaker 1: In this game, Geo Bernard was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon looked like a slender version of himself. He
Speaker 1: shed down weight in the off season. We knew about that.
Speaker 1: He looked much more spry in the preseason. He showed
Speaker 1: a lot of that here. He had the explosiveness and
Speaker 1: then also his usage in the passing game. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy was a phenomenal, phenomenal receiver coming out of college,
Speaker 1: and then he showed that in the preseason as well.
Speaker 1: They're lining him out as a wide receiver, throwing him
Speaker 1: screen passes, letting him just work down the field. I
Speaker 1: think if you drafted Joe Mixon, I don't think this
Speaker 1: is a no reaction. I think there's a good chance
Speaker 1: that he can be an RB one for fantasy football season.
Speaker 1: So talk more about the good the bad. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get to the Buffalo Bills. Maybe Monday Night Football tonight
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Speaker 1: if you have the Browns plus four like I did,
Speaker 1: hit hit pretty well, I liked, I like that I
Speaker 1: was gonna do a teaser Brown's Ravens Saints, the Saints,
Speaker 1: that that would have crushed you right there, all right,
Speaker 1: So let's hump back in. We were talking about Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon and his uses with the Cincinnati Bengals and the
Speaker 1: fact that Joe Bernard was not really anywhere to be
Speaker 1: seen on the field. I want to go to another
Speaker 1: running back, really the antithesis of what Joe Mixon represents.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon a young, fun, exciting running back. Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: old boring, wasn't really fun in the preseason, drafted in
Speaker 1: the ninth tenth round, Joe Mixon going in the second
Speaker 1: and third round. What Adrian Peterson do in Week one?
Speaker 1: Just twenty eight touches Jim nearly thirty touches for the Angels.
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson twenty six rushing attempts, two catches in this game,
Speaker 1: nineties six rushing yards. That's three point seven yards per carry,
Speaker 1: but two receptions for seventy yards. That the guy is
Speaker 1: still in fredibly explosive. It's insane. He looked like Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson from five years ago. I thought, it's like he's refreshed.
Speaker 1: Did this guy us a time machine and come back
Speaker 1: to play the ariphon of Cardinals in week one. Damn,
Speaker 1: even if it's three point seven yards of cary, if
Speaker 1: he's below four yards were carry, I don't care. The
Speaker 1: guy is getting nearly thirty touches per game. I'm here
Speaker 1: to tell you that Adrian Peterson is a top twenty
Speaker 1: four running backs here. He is a legitimate RB two.
Speaker 1: Am I crazy not if he continues to get that
Speaker 1: kind of usage. Let's face it, like you said, even
Speaker 1: at three point seven yards per carry, who cares touching
Speaker 1: the ball thirty times? Look, you know we saw his
Speaker 1: decline last year and the games where he did absolutely nothing,
Speaker 1: but it was obvious. He came in to prove a
Speaker 1: point yesterday and he proved his point. He proved that
Speaker 1: he's still viable and he could put up yardage. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's face it that he scored his hundred TD ever
Speaker 1: in that game. Uh, he passed Marshall falk And on
Speaker 1: the all time rushing list, So he had some things
Speaker 1: to prove and he did. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: see this week, but if he's going to touch the
Speaker 1: ball five plus times every week, he's got to be
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup because eventually he's gonna break something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the thing is for me obviously had those motivations,
Speaker 1: the hundred touchdown, the rushing yards, but I also see
Speaker 1: he's not gonna most of the time, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: get to seventy yards worth receiving yards. He'll probably have
Speaker 1: one or two catches. Maybe catches are not happy. He
Speaker 1: never did that pro He's not gonna do it now
Speaker 1: to catch the ball. I mean seveny receiving yards on
Speaker 1: two receptions, absolutely flukey, right. But the yardage wasn't great
Speaker 1: for the amount of carries, but the carries were good.
Speaker 1: The problem is they were blowing that team out. Right.
Speaker 1: If they're playing another team once again, game flow again.
Speaker 1: If if they can't run the ball, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Chris Thompson show if they gotta throw a lot.
Speaker 1: But they were able to take the puge lead and
Speaker 1: just pound Peterson. Why not. He's thirty three years old
Speaker 1: and he's not on a big contract. Who cares you
Speaker 1: just pound him. They'll run him into the ground. The ground.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing about it. And you know the
Speaker 1: thing about Chris Thompson is they used him a lot
Speaker 1: to get up in this game. I just don't know
Speaker 1: that they will ever use him for more than twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen touches per game because they know what they have
Speaker 1: in Chris Thompson. He's incredibly explosive in small doses, but
Speaker 1: he has a huge injury history. You can't use a
Speaker 1: guy like that as your work coorse back, even if
Speaker 1: you're trailing in games like, yeah, he'll be on the field,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that he's ever going to touch
Speaker 1: the ball more than twelve thirteen times. And they prove
Speaker 1: that they can coexist in the same game. Chris Thompson
Speaker 1: said in the preseason that he's five rushes for sixty
Speaker 1: five yards, seven targets, six receptions, so for an additional
Speaker 1: sixty three yards. I mean, the guy was nearly a
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards and a touchdown on eleven touches.
Speaker 1: So efficient, so efficient, And but he fits the mold
Speaker 1: of all these other guys Deon Lewis Um not Geo
Speaker 1: Barnad right now, because he seems to be basis he's
Speaker 1: better than those guys. Well, yeah, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, He's never going to touch the ball fifteen
Speaker 1: plus times. It's not gonna happen, right, I mean Deon
Speaker 1: Lewis might Deon Louis, I mean he did it yesterday,
Speaker 1: and more touches and Derrick Henry. But did these guys
Speaker 1: fit that mold where you have that like your pass
Speaker 1: catcher and you got your your up the middle runner
Speaker 1: and uh, there's a lot of teams like that in
Speaker 1: the league. You tere Cohen and Jordan Howard, So uh,
Speaker 1: it works, it works. These past catching running back, especially
Speaker 1: in ppo league, the more valuable sometimes than like an
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris, who you know, it's just he's the starter,
Speaker 1: but he's splitting carries with another running back and he
Speaker 1: doesn't catch passes. I'd rather have the guy that catch
Speaker 1: catches passes. It's pretty much that simple. Jim. Do you
Speaker 1: agree that Adrian Peterson and Chris Thompson can co exist
Speaker 1: together and both both be fantasy viable or do you
Speaker 1: think that if they're trailing in a game, we're gonna
Speaker 1: see more of Chris Thompson. I just don't think that
Speaker 1: they can lean on him based on his injury history. Well,
Speaker 1: they can lean on him until they can't, let's face it. Uh,
Speaker 1: And you know it was him saying he wasn't a
Speaker 1: hundred percent and healthy in the preferseason, But it wasn't
Speaker 1: him showing that because he was on the field in
Speaker 1: preseason playing well. It was in his mind, in his
Speaker 1: head that he thought he wasn't gonna be fully healthy
Speaker 1: till November. He showed yesterday he's fully healthy. He's ready
Speaker 1: to go. And as long as he's healthy, they're gonna
Speaker 1: run him. They're gonna get him into in the game plan.
Speaker 1: Even with Peterson touching the ball dirty times. Look, they
Speaker 1: don't want, uh, they don't want to qb Uh Smith
Speaker 1: to have to throw the ball forty times. They don't
Speaker 1: want that. That's not what they want to see. They
Speaker 1: want to be able to run the ball, especially in
Speaker 1: this NFC East. You want to be able to establish
Speaker 1: the run in every game. And if they could do
Speaker 1: that with both of these guys, I think we see
Speaker 1: that more happening more often than not. Peterson is going
Speaker 1: to be a guy that you know, if he's touching
Speaker 1: the ball twenty times a game, he's gonna get you
Speaker 1: enough yards to give you some points. He doesn't catch
Speaker 1: a lot, we know that, but if he gets that
Speaker 1: occasional touchdown thrown in he's gonna be a guy scoring
Speaker 1: double digit fantasy points, and Chris Thompson can easily do
Speaker 1: that even with limited touches by catching the ball. We
Speaker 1: know that. You know, a pass target is about three
Speaker 1: times as valuable as a carry for running back, So
Speaker 1: any running back that gets that many targets is always
Speaker 1: going to be liable in the PPR league. Ape he's
Speaker 1: gonna rely on tds, yeah, absolutely, but you know I'm
Speaker 1: buying it if you're in a standard or in a
Speaker 1: half point PPR. I think Adrian Peterson could be a
Speaker 1: top twenty four running back based on you know, for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Yeah, could be if he's
Speaker 1: getting this much work. If he's getting fifteen and twenty
Speaker 1: touches the game, I mean, let alone, he was near
Speaker 1: thirty touches in this game. I think, you know, again,
Speaker 1: they don't have a long term commitment to him. They
Speaker 1: can run him and if they're gonna play smash mouth
Speaker 1: football like that then works. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it comes down to whether or not the team is
Speaker 1: winning as well. If the team is winning, I think
Speaker 1: it motivates Peterson to be better. I think if they
Speaker 1: start losing, I wouldn't be surprised at all if all
Speaker 1: of a sudden we see Peterson go back into the
Speaker 1: mode he had last year where he just didn't look
Speaker 1: like he really cared a lot, you know what. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Jordan Reid to who looked pretty healthy in
Speaker 1: this game. He didn't play a full compliment of snaps,
Speaker 1: but I think that's by design. I think they should
Speaker 1: continue to do that. Use him in the right packages,
Speaker 1: the right passing plays now down near the goal line
Speaker 1: in the red zone, where Jordan Reid could have have
Speaker 1: his presence. Felt No, Alex Smith loves to throw the
Speaker 1: ball to the tight end. So I think again, if
Speaker 1: he as long as he can stay healthy, he's going
Speaker 1: to be productive on a per game basis. Jordan Reid
Speaker 1: and Chris Thompson, those are going to be a lot
Speaker 1: of the early progression reads for Alex Smith in this
Speaker 1: stock up on those two guys. Onto the Steelers man
Speaker 1: Levian Bell, who, Yeah, I found this. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: I found the hysterical that Tomlin said Bell, this is
Speaker 1: basically a statement, and he didn't say by where he
Speaker 1: said it. On the field, he said Bell, I just
Speaker 1: ran James Conner thirty four times and gave him seven targets,
Speaker 1: So you're nothing special. That's basically what he said. He
Speaker 1: threw it right back in his face. How about this
Speaker 1: this tweet from Warren Sharp at sharp Football comparison of
Speaker 1: Levian Bell and James Conner in their Week one games
Speaker 1: first Cleveland. Because last year Week one they faced Cleveland,
Speaker 1: it was Levian Bell. This year they faced Cleveland. It's
Speaker 1: James had ten carries. Bell Bell success rate three point
Speaker 1: two yards per carry. Connor success rate four point four
Speaker 1: yards per carry. First down to cess rate Levian four
Speaker 1: point eight yards per carry. James Connor success rate five
Speaker 1: point six yards per carry. James Conner played one hundred
Speaker 1: per cent of the snaps. He played every single snap
Speaker 1: in this football game. That is absolutely insane. Thirty one rushes,
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty five yards, two touchdowns, six targets,
Speaker 1: five receptions fifty seven yards. Jim, if you drafted James
Speaker 1: Conner in a keeper league or in a dynasty league,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Levan Bell is not here. Next year.
Speaker 1: He is not here next year. Own him in a
Speaker 1: keeper or dynasty league. We know he's got there next year. Anyway,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind. He's not a Steeler
Speaker 1: next year, and that's why they brought in Connor last
Speaker 1: year to be that eventual guy. We saw what we
Speaker 1: like now. The statue just referenced by Warren Sharp. See
Speaker 1: this is why sometimes I hate stats, because you can
Speaker 1: make stats say whatever you want. And you could compare
Speaker 1: this first game to last year's first game. But if
Speaker 1: you really dig deeper, we know Bell wasn't in camp,
Speaker 1: didn't get any preseason, had no work leading up to
Speaker 1: that first game. So comparing this first game to that
Speaker 1: first game, it's just a false stat There's really nothing
Speaker 1: comparable to those two games. You know, compare him to
Speaker 1: a game where Bell had a good game and then
Speaker 1: we got to talk, you know, don't compare it to
Speaker 1: a game where Bell comes in off the street with
Speaker 1: a couple of days work and you know, gets a
Speaker 1: minimal amount of touches. To me, that's just a bad
Speaker 1: use of stats. Yeah. Well, but the most impressive thing
Speaker 1: isn't even that he had five point six yards to carry,
Speaker 1: or that he caught five passes for sixty yards almost
Speaker 1: which I heard people say. I heard others say that
Speaker 1: he doesn't have good hands. I didn't see it. He
Speaker 1: looked very good in the passing game. Um, and the
Speaker 1: most impressive thing is that he had thirty four carries
Speaker 1: and five catches. That's the most impressive thing. He only
Speaker 1: had four. I think it's thirty four, so whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it's thirty five plus touches for a guy who last
Speaker 1: year probably sold one or two who touches a game.
Speaker 1: I mean, right if that so, that's the most impressive thing.
Speaker 1: I think here he could. She showed that, you know what,
Speaker 1: I could carry a workhorse load and he proved it,
Speaker 1: and I'd be excited about James Knner. The Steeler system works.
Speaker 1: The old line is mad good. I mean, you just
Speaker 1: run the ball day up the middle of this guy.
Speaker 1: This guy is a fearsome running back and the old
Speaker 1: one loves him. You saw they all celebrated with him
Speaker 1: and stuff on the first touch. I'm sure they would
Speaker 1: have much more. They would have much rather enjoyed celebrating
Speaker 1: a win rather than a tie against the Cleveland round. Jim,
Speaker 1: I just want to address what you said about the
Speaker 1: stat first of all, in Week one last year, that's
Speaker 1: nobody's fault to Levan Bells himself because he didn't show
Speaker 1: up the training Camp, So I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I know that it's completely different situations. But with that
Speaker 1: being said, Cleveland Brown's last year as a rushing defense
Speaker 1: allowed three point four yards per carry that was second
Speaker 1: best in the NFL. So I think for James Conner
Speaker 1: to come in here and do what he did against
Speaker 1: that rushing defense, which was one of the best in
Speaker 1: the NFL last season, I think there was something to
Speaker 1: be said for that. Now. I get what you're saying
Speaker 1: about comparing, and it's not the same necessarily, but it
Speaker 1: was Levian Bell's fault that he wasn't prepared for Week
Speaker 1: one last year, So I'll just throw that out there.
Speaker 1: I still think it's very impressive what James Connor did. No, No,
Speaker 1: you're taking you're taking me wrong. I'm not saying anything
Speaker 1: about what Connor did. Connor had an amazing game, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from Connor's game. He did
Speaker 1: exactly what the Steelers needed him to do, go out
Speaker 1: and show Levian Bell, we can do it without you.
Speaker 1: He did exactly that, and that's why he saw the
Speaker 1: ball so much, and that's why he was on the
Speaker 1: field so much, just to show Levian Belt we can
Speaker 1: do it without you. I get all that James Connor
Speaker 1: had a fabulous game, it's not that. It's that, you know,
Speaker 1: when you try and compare stats like that, that's just
Speaker 1: you know, to the uninformed out there, people seeing that saying,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Connor is better than Bell. Well that's
Speaker 1: not that's not true. I think that I had a
Speaker 1: great game. But to put out a stat like that,
Speaker 1: to me, it's just a falsehood. You can't really put
Speaker 1: that out there and not expected to be picked apart
Speaker 1: when you know the back backstory behind it. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it wasn't Bell's fault. I'm not a Bell
Speaker 1: fan in any way, shape or form. The guy's an idiot.
Speaker 1: I mean he's shown that time and time again. But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is to try and put
Speaker 1: those kinds of stats out there, it's just bad reporting.
Speaker 1: You're putting bad information out there for people that are
Speaker 1: very gullible for bad information. Well, people like to see
Speaker 1: all the all the information they can. They like to
Speaker 1: you know, see obscure stuff, deep stats. I understand that,
Speaker 1: But when it comes out to is this all ties
Speaker 1: into the overreaction stuff. It's week one. Um, we gotta
Speaker 1: be careful because like obviously now everybody wants to jump
Speaker 1: on the ap band wagon or the James Connor band
Speaker 1: wagan and then maybe we're all forget about Chris Hogan,
Speaker 1: who we all love before the season and had what
Speaker 1: one to one, two, one or two catches in this game?
Speaker 1: Uh yesterday he did nothing. Basically, you're just jumping you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You're gonna be fine, But I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't mind talking about it right now. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: talk about Chris Hogan. One catch for eleven yards in
Speaker 1: the win. He was fourth on his team in targets.
Speaker 1: What worries me most about this, Jim is the fact
Speaker 1: that he wasn't needed for this team to win the game,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Like they won twenty on the
Speaker 1: back of Gronk, on the back of Tom Brady throwing
Speaker 1: to James White, who I think we all kind of
Speaker 1: suspected could have a big game here, and then they
Speaker 1: also used Philip tore set more in this matchup. And
Speaker 1: just to make matters worse, Chris Hogan is going up
Speaker 1: against the Jacksonville Jaguars secondary next week, so I'm probably
Speaker 1: not gonna have him in my lineup, which is crazy
Speaker 1: because this is a guy that was the fourth or
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. Well, let me be the contrarian here, um.
Speaker 1: And it's only because of Bill Belichick. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and think that. You know, Belichick used Hogan
Speaker 1: as a decoy in this one. We've seen him do
Speaker 1: that with other receivers trying to get defenses. Look, we
Speaker 1: all expected Hogan to have a great game. I'm sure
Speaker 1: the defense expected Hogan to have a great game because
Speaker 1: he was their number one wide receiver and they planned
Speaker 1: for that. They always made sure he had doubles on
Speaker 1: him over on your coverage a lot of times. And
Speaker 1: Belichick knew that going in would be the case, and
Speaker 1: he sturned flipped the script and he went to the
Speaker 1: other guys. I mean, you don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: that with Gronk because Cronk's too good. You're gonna throw
Speaker 1: the ball up, let him go get it. He's gonna
Speaker 1: do what he does. But with Hogan, you know, if
Speaker 1: he's receiving double coverage a lot, then you're not gonna
Speaker 1: see them go to him. You're gonna see Brady use
Speaker 1: his other options, which is what we saw. We go
Speaker 1: fast forward to next week with Checksiville flipped the script again.
Speaker 1: You know, they're really not gonna worry about double covering
Speaker 1: Hogan after one reception in week one. They're definitely gonna
Speaker 1: go after Gronk. They may pay a little bit more
Speaker 1: attention to Philip Dorset, and all of a sudden, Hogan
Speaker 1: is the guy out that's, all of a sudden catching
Speaker 1: the balls. This is how belichick mind thinks. He's always
Speaker 1: one step ahead. He's playing chess when the rest of
Speaker 1: the coaches are playing checkers. But you would think Ramsey
Speaker 1: is gonna shadow Hogan a good portion of the games.
Speaker 1: Shadow he takes one guy. He could Yeah, he could
Speaker 1: go to ground too, That's what I'm saying. He might
Speaker 1: go back and forth, and they'll find ways to move
Speaker 1: these guys around, just like the Giants did with Beckham yesterday,
Speaker 1: trying to get him away from Ramsey. Although he roasted
Speaker 1: Ramsey many times, Ramsey with the two pass interference penalties
Speaker 1: just because he had you know, oh b J had
Speaker 1: him on his heels quite a few times with those
Speaker 1: double moves. So you know, he can be beat. He
Speaker 1: just just have to get somebody out there willing to
Speaker 1: run the strong route and be committed to it like O.
Speaker 1: B J was yesterday. Yeah, Odell Beckham again one of
Speaker 1: those five players who had fifteen plus targets in Week one,
Speaker 1: again something that didn't happen in a single game last
Speaker 1: year in the regular seasons, in a single week, there
Speaker 1: was never a group of five receivers that had fifteen
Speaker 1: plus targets. And here we have that in Week one already.
Speaker 1: I think that just goes to show you how wild
Speaker 1: it really was out of a week. And you know,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham was still pretty successful against Jalen Ramsey in
Speaker 1: that matchup and the fact that they were able to
Speaker 1: move him around a little bit. He had the eleven
Speaker 1: receptions for a hundred and eleven yards. Look, we're about
Speaker 1: forty minutes into the show. We haven't even mentioned Ryan
Speaker 1: fits Magic yet. Tampa Bay Bucks knocking off the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. So fantasy fireworks in that game, I mean
Speaker 1: all around, uh fits Magic four touchdowns, he added a
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown. It's five total touchdowns everybody eight in that
Speaker 1: game in the Tampa Bay Bucks passing attack, Mike Evans eight.
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin scored a touchdown. He didn't have a huge
Speaker 1: game for a touchdown. You're right, the tight ends didn't
Speaker 1: do their thing, but Seawan Jackson two touchdowns and then
Speaker 1: on the other side, Michael Thomas, history game, Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1: Efficiency still there, it's in. The efficiency is still there.
Speaker 1: But we'll talk a little bit about this Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Bucks Saints game when we come back. We'll get to
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Speaker 1: are made. Literally in week one is the lineup Let's
Speaker 1: skip better throughout the Ryan Fitzpatrick, Alvin Kamara, James Conner,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Kenny Stills, DeShawn Jackson. That's the one right there.
Speaker 1: That's the one percent on DeShawn Jackson, Rob Gronkowski, David
Speaker 1: Johnson and the Miami Dolphins defense. If you went to
Speaker 1: the optimizer and you ran the settings Perry QB with
Speaker 1: a wide receiver from hit his team plus a wide
Speaker 1: receiver from the opposing team in your lineup, it would
Speaker 1: have threw out one of these lineups, which is awesome
Speaker 1: and at the same time incredibly frustrating because that could
Speaker 1: have been one of us him. It could have been
Speaker 1: you know, look, David Johnson though, was definitely a bit
Speaker 1: of a surprise in in the bad way. He did
Speaker 1: not put up the monster numbers we expected him to
Speaker 1: do against that defense. Um, you know, that was definitely
Speaker 1: a surprise, and of course for me personally, it's the
Speaker 1: one who hurt me the most was of course, uh
Speaker 1: the set aforementioned uh wide receiver from New England who
Speaker 1: did absolutely nothing yesterday. But uh, you know, that's just
Speaker 1: the way it is. That's how it works. You gotta
Speaker 1: hit the right combination every week. And you know that
Speaker 1: optimizer is is a good way of trying to put
Speaker 1: together a team based on you know, a certain stack
Speaker 1: that you want to use or certain method you want
Speaker 1: to use. And I definitely implore people to try and
Speaker 1: use it more often. Yeah, while we're talking about DFS
Speaker 1: and fatable, we had the BFF concepts that we spoke
Speaker 1: about last week. I was tweeting out about it. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Ron Cafferty. The mailman was in first place
Speaker 1: right now. Of the BFF five dollar entry we had
Speaker 1: eighteen people. Twenty people joined the community, but not all
Speaker 1: twenty people entered their lineup, which was a very weird
Speaker 1: thing and I don't know why, but I actually had
Speaker 1: Alex Collins in that lineup. Who was the guy who
Speaker 1: destroyed me yesterday? Yeah, another guy who just looked like
Speaker 1: it is in a perfect place to put up big numbers. Uh,
Speaker 1: fumbles the ball. They benched him for a while. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then when the game got out of hand, they
Speaker 1: benched him again. And you know that just really just
Speaker 1: took him out of the game. Let's talk about this
Speaker 1: here because I have him under the bad category. From
Speaker 1: week one. We spoke a lot about the good. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that Bucks and Saints game, but
Speaker 1: one of the bad things that happened here was Alex Collins. Now, Jim, I,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you pay attention much to why
Speaker 1: I liked the season, but Alex Collins was certainly one
Speaker 1: of them. I was an Alex Collins through thur coming
Speaker 1: into the year, was very excited about him. I thought
Speaker 1: the metrics showed last year that he was a very
Speaker 1: valuable running back, proved that he could be a workhorse
Speaker 1: really in the second half of the season. Now you
Speaker 1: tell me, am I painting this picture last half full
Speaker 1: because I'm an Alex Collins optimist, or do you have
Speaker 1: a different take on this situation because the way I
Speaker 1: look at it is he scored the first touchdown so
Speaker 1: early on in the game, I think he was their
Speaker 1: main running back. After he fumbled, You're right, they benched
Speaker 1: him for a few series. He did see him come
Speaker 1: out in the second half. He had a few carries
Speaker 1: in that second half. But in my opinion, once this
Speaker 1: game got out of hand, I mean, we even sold
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in this game, it seemed like they really
Speaker 1: just benched all of their starters. I mean, even Willie
Speaker 1: Sneed scored a touchdown. All all three running backs here
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, from Buck Allen to Kenneth Dixon. So
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you should be worried a little bit
Speaker 1: that he fumbled and he got bench, but I also
Speaker 1: think it was the fact that they were just blowing
Speaker 1: this team out. I'm very interested to see on Thursday
Speaker 1: night how the running back usage um plays out between
Speaker 1: with all these Ravens running backs. Now I'm still on
Speaker 1: with Collins. Look, look, you know, Buck Allen is gonna
Speaker 1: be Buck Allen. He's gonna be that third down back,
Speaker 1: come in, catch a few passes, do what he does.
Speaker 1: But you know, Collins is going to be the main guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about Dixon coming in. Like he
Speaker 1: said in the in the second half, the game was
Speaker 1: well out of hand. They didn't really need Collins to
Speaker 1: go in and beat Collins. When they need Collins be
Speaker 1: coins in a tight game, then we're gonna see him
Speaker 1: more often. I trust him more than I do Dickson. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we'll see him, you know, get twenty carries in
Speaker 1: a game and start to put up the kind of
Speaker 1: numbers we expected. Yesterday just wasn't that day, And I
Speaker 1: think that was more game flow than anything else. Oh,
Speaker 1: Jim Day, I could kiss you. That's music to my ears.
Speaker 1: That's what I love to hear. As an Alex Collins
Speaker 1: owner in multiple leagues. I'm with you. I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be very zoned in on this Thursday night game to
Speaker 1: make sure that Alex Collins is the guy in what
Speaker 1: should be a closer matchup against the Bengals. You know
Speaker 1: those a f C North matchups are usually hard hitting,
Speaker 1: a low scoring close games. So I think, um, we'll
Speaker 1: find out in that game if Alex Collins is the
Speaker 1: workhorse the Saints versus Bucks game. Jim absolutely wild. I mean,
Speaker 1: you had the Saints as your survivor pick. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but you're gone. The Bucks come into New Orleans and
Speaker 1: blow blow the doors off of the New Orleans Saints. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean fits magic four yards, five total touchdowns mentioned.
Speaker 1: Everybody in this past game was involved except the tight ends,
Speaker 1: which was actually kind of a letdown in this matchup.
Speaker 1: I'll throw this out there. Can Ryan Fitzpatrick steal this
Speaker 1: job from Jamis Winston and be a top twelve quarterback?
Speaker 1: That's the overreaction aspect of this. But is it because
Speaker 1: he finishes the top twelve quarterback back In when he
Speaker 1: played with the Jets, he threw for thirty one touchdowns
Speaker 1: and he rushed for two more. So we know that
Speaker 1: when he's surrounded by good weapons. That year he had
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, he had every decker, he had a great offense.
Speaker 1: He can produce. He can produce for fantasy. It might
Speaker 1: not be the prettiest thing in real life for NFL purposes,
Speaker 1: but Ryan Fitzpatrick can produce. So I'll I'll throw two
Speaker 1: questions out to you. Can Fitzpatrick be a top twelve quarterback?
Speaker 1: And can he steal Jamis Winston's starting job. He absolutely
Speaker 1: could steal Jamis Winston's starting job. Look, even the general
Speaker 1: manager said it, you know in preseason. Look, there's no
Speaker 1: guarantee that Winston's gonna come back in week four and
Speaker 1: still have a job. There's no guarantee. They're tired of
Speaker 1: his antics, they're tired of his off off the field crap,
Speaker 1: and you know they wouldn't be afraid to move on,
Speaker 1: especially after this kind of game that Fits had. We
Speaker 1: know Fits is a guy that loves to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go out there, he's gonna pound the ball
Speaker 1: downfield all game. And you know with the receivers they have,
Speaker 1: especially DeShawn Jackson. I mean, look, DeShawn Jackson almost had
Speaker 1: another big, long, third touchdown pass yesterday. Could have been amazing, uh,
Speaker 1: amazing day, and it wasn't already amazing day. He looked
Speaker 1: as fast as he's ever looked. And if that's still
Speaker 1: a case, Fits is gonna have no problem trying to
Speaker 1: get the ball down the field to him. He loves
Speaker 1: to chuck the ball. Now, the one problem with Fits is,
Speaker 1: if you look at his career, he loves to get
Speaker 1: off the big starts early in the season and then
Speaker 1: at some point there's a game where the bottom just
Speaker 1: falls completely out. But if he gets these next few
Speaker 1: weeks and has games even you know he's not gonna
Speaker 1: have the game he had yesterday. I just don't see
Speaker 1: that every week. But if he has games that where
Speaker 1: he's putting them in contention to win every week and
Speaker 1: he's putting up points, then there's a very good chance
Speaker 1: that when Jay miss Winston comes back, he's sitting on
Speaker 1: that he could easily get while he pipped here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and those games that where the bottom really falls out
Speaker 1: for Ryan Fitzpatrick, it really comes in like clutch matchups
Speaker 1: when you meet Ryan Fitzpatrick most, because I can tell
Speaker 1: you as a Jets fan they had a chance to
Speaker 1: make it to the playoffs in Week seventeen against the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Back kind of Ryan Fitzpatrick dew. He goes
Speaker 1: out there with the snow flur, He's falling down one yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and three interceptions. When you need Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: most in a real life clutch situation, he will crumble
Speaker 1: every single time. And they were bad interceptions too. I
Speaker 1: remember the bad Bill's team that was not a good
Speaker 1: Buill team. I remember two of them explicitly, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they just strows he shouldn't have made and tried to
Speaker 1: force something that shouldn't happen, and he does have a
Speaker 1: tendency to do that. But it was nice watching him
Speaker 1: in all his glory yesterday. He was having fun, he
Speaker 1: was enjoying himself. And as long as he's doing that,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be afraid to step on that to
Speaker 1: wing the ball all over the place. And you know,
Speaker 1: the one effect of that is that he's never been
Speaker 1: a big usage of the tight end guy. Uh. They
Speaker 1: have two pretty good tight end receivers on this team
Speaker 1: that may not see much. With Fitzpatrick on the field,
Speaker 1: he's gonna look for those wide receivers pretty much all
Speaker 1: the time. On the same side of things, I want
Speaker 1: to paint this, I mean, obviously for fantasy purposes, it was.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was phenomenal. I mean, Michael Thomas,
Speaker 1: but of a forty burger In PPR leagues, we're talking
Speaker 1: about sixteen eight How many receptions that even have sixteen
Speaker 1: or eighteen, I mean, it was absolutely ridiculous. Believe it
Speaker 1: was sixteen receptions for a hundred and eighty yards. He
Speaker 1: had to touchdown as well, so for PPR he was
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. Alvin Kamara, I mean all off season. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna speak for you, Jim, but
Speaker 1: what I said about Alvin Kamara is there's no way
Speaker 1: he can repeat the type of efficiency he had in
Speaker 1: terms of yards per attempt, yards per target, UH, scoring
Speaker 1: touchdowns at the rate that he did. Only did yesterday
Speaker 1: seventeen touches to get forty six point one PPR points. Jim,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a top three running back. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the way that this works here is if
Speaker 1: the Saints defense is really this bad once again, if
Speaker 1: we go back to the Saints defense being as bad
Speaker 1: as it was in years past, Drew Brees is a
Speaker 1: top three quarterback once again, Michael Thomas is a top
Speaker 1: three wide receiver, and Alvin Kamara is a top three
Speaker 1: running back. If this defense is as bad as it
Speaker 1: was two years ago, three years ago, four years ago,
Speaker 1: we thought that the Saints defense hadn't proved they did
Speaker 1: last year. But I don't know what the hell happened
Speaker 1: in Week one this week against the buckshot Ah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely were not ready for this game in any
Speaker 1: way shape or for him. I'm talking about the defense
Speaker 1: anyway for New Orleans. Uh, I'm with you. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. I had no idea that they would come
Speaker 1: out and play this bad game, uh in Week one.
Speaker 1: But I'm also happy because, like you said, it's great
Speaker 1: for fantasy owners. I'd love to see Drew Brees and
Speaker 1: these guys you know, continue to play like this, have
Speaker 1: to throw the ball all time, put up fantasy points.
Speaker 1: That's really good for fantasy owners. So you want to
Speaker 1: see that. The thing that I really loved with this
Speaker 1: was not only that Thomas had sixteen catches. I love
Speaker 1: that he had sixteen catches on seventeen targets. That to me,
Speaker 1: that that's just that just shows you, once again how
Speaker 1: good Drew Brees is. Yeah, it's absolutely unbelievable. The same
Speaker 1: page that these guys are on. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: That was something that stood out to me. That type
Speaker 1: of just efficiency. Again, I mean the word we use
Speaker 1: it a lot for Alvin Kamara, we use it for
Speaker 1: running backs, right, but to haul in sixteen of seventeen targets,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what holds other guys back on other teams, right,
Speaker 1: Like guys like Mike Evans, who consistently have low catch
Speaker 1: rates because they have guys like Jameis Winston and Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick throwing them balls all over the field that are awry, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get peppered with targets, but he's only gonna
Speaker 1: catch about them. So for Michael Thomas to come in
Speaker 1: here and get seventeen targets and hold in sixteen of those,
Speaker 1: absolutely phenomenal. Um, if you're a Saints fan. Obviously the
Speaker 1: game sucked, but for fantasy purposes, Drew Brees, Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: and Michael Thomas. If this defense is terrible, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you all three of those guys could be top three
Speaker 1: at their position this year. Right now, we need to
Speaker 1: sign off the video portion online on YouTube, if you're
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Speaker 1: the radio portion here. I'm just gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: Chiefs real quick, and then I'll get Jim Days predictions
Speaker 1: for Monday Night football. Mike j e t S Jets, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald Era begins against the Detroit Lions. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about Tyreek Hill. We're talking about efficiency, right, Wow,
Speaker 1: you can't talk about efficiency without Tyreek. Hill had eight
Speaker 1: targets which led to teams seven receptions, a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty nine yards, two touchdowns, oh and a ninety one
Speaker 1: yard punt return touchdown. You finished wide receiver four last year.
Speaker 1: Jim On a hundred and five targets. If he sees
Speaker 1: seven targets per game, that's a hundred and twelve over
Speaker 1: sixteen game pace. Is he the most electrifying player you've
Speaker 1: ever watched him? Because you look, admittedly you've seen a
Speaker 1: lot more football than I have. I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say the most electrifying ever. But
Speaker 1: definitely a guy that you know doesn't need a ton
Speaker 1: of targets to make them pay. And now he's got
Speaker 1: a quarterback that loves to play the same type of game.
Speaker 1: Just run down the field, I'll get you the ball.
Speaker 1: And you know again, Sammy Watkins was not really involved
Speaker 1: in this. Uh. I couldn't say that enough in preseason
Speaker 1: that I wasn't a Watkins guy. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's talented. He just never seems
Speaker 1: to put it together with whatever team he's on. But
Speaker 1: Hill and Mahomes had a had a rapport right from
Speaker 1: the get go in preseason. Mahomes loves to chuck it
Speaker 1: down the field. And you know, we also saw that
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt and Travis Kelsey were not involved in his
Speaker 1: passing game at all. That's gotta be a little scary
Speaker 1: for you as owners of them, because if Mahomes isn't
Speaker 1: looking to check down at all to either one of
Speaker 1: these guys, you've taken two major offensive players right off
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, Kareem Hunt especially. I look, I have
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. I have multiple shares this year. Um. This
Speaker 1: is the first game in his career that he's played
Speaker 1: where he didn't have a reception. He only had one
Speaker 1: target in this game. So yeah, like you mentioned Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes not checking down in these games, I will say
Speaker 1: the one positive because you know, as an owner of
Speaker 1: these players, right like when I look up Alex Collins
Speaker 1: and I look up Kareem Hunt, I try to I
Speaker 1: try to find the positive, something good that I could
Speaker 1: take away from this because I try to make myself
Speaker 1: feel better for drafting these players who have bad week ones.
Speaker 1: His shoes matched, His shoes match there you go. Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt his using his usage in week one, seventy of
Speaker 1: the snaps the running back snaps here, uh sixteen of
Speaker 1: twenty of the rushing attempts for the running backs um,
Speaker 1: and he had one of two targets. So they just
Speaker 1: really didn't use the running backs all that much. I
Speaker 1: will say that the Jet sweeps that they used Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill and the Anthony Thomas on down on the goal
Speaker 1: line was very, very very frustrated to watch. Jim I
Speaker 1: mentioned we'll give predictions for tonight the first game the
Speaker 1: Jets in Detroit plus seven right now or the Jets.
Speaker 1: Who do you have in this game? And do you
Speaker 1: think they could cover the spread because it seems kind
Speaker 1: of big for the Detroit Lions. I think they do
Speaker 1: cover the spread. I think the Jets are gonna be
Speaker 1: a little better. And people give him credit for I
Speaker 1: think Donald is going to be better than people think.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got some good weapons there. Robby Anderson
Speaker 1: showed last year that he could be a number one
Speaker 1: receiver in this league. Prior's back, they got a new
Speaker 1: new back. Um, the running game is gonna be a
Speaker 1: little shallow. I'm not sure what we get out of
Speaker 1: crow L. But I do like that Powell will be involved.
Speaker 1: I think in this one heavily as a receiver. So
Speaker 1: you know, I think the Jets keep this a game.
Speaker 1: I think that defense is enough to keep this in
Speaker 1: a game. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's
Speaker 1: under the forty five points that Vegas has them at
Speaker 1: right at this point over under, So I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the under here. I think the Jets keep it tight,
Speaker 1: but I do think they lose. I'm thinking somewhere along
Speaker 1: the line of I think it's a good call. I'm
Speaker 1: with you as a Jet fan. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they go in and win this game, but I think
Speaker 1: they can keep it close. I like the Jets too.
Speaker 1: I like this to be a field goal game. I
Speaker 1: could see one, uh seen. Like you said, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't love the under, but if I hat to
Speaker 1: choose one, I would take the under as well. Real quick, Jim,
Speaker 1: we only have a minute left, Rams minus four and
Speaker 1: a half on the road tonight against Jon Gruden and
Speaker 1: the Boys. The Oakland Raiders actually got this game when
Speaker 1: the Rams were minus four, so I actually think they
Speaker 1: put a beating down on the Raiders to night. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I do think I have the Rams going
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, so I definitely think they I
Speaker 1: also I also had to charge its going to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl back to work out, so well, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the Rams. I think the Rams come out
Speaker 1: and beat up Oakland. I'm not sure Oakland's ready for this.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna be a, you know, big
Speaker 1: time beat down, but I'm looking for something like maybe
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