1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The verdict is in. Alex 2 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Murdog has been found guilty on all counts. That's two 3 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: counts of murders as well as weapons charges. The verdict 4 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: watch is over. Finally, an end to a saga that 5 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: started many, many months ago when the bodies of Maggie 6 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: and Paul Murdog were found dead and bloodied, riddled with 7 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: bullets at the kennel of their hunting lodge known as Moselle. 8 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: So let's hear what the judge has to say. I 9 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: understand that there's a verdict. Do you may bring the jury? 10 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm Madame Friday. If you'll stand for me. 11 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Have you reached a verdict? Yes, we have unanimous Yes 12 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: is right? If you will pass it up to the clerk, 13 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: who will pass it to me, and you may be seated. 14 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: Defending will rise. Docket number two thousand, twenty two GS. 15 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Fifteen zero zero five nine two the State of South Carolina, 16 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: County of Collaton, in the Court of General Sessions in 17 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: the term of two thousand and twenty two July, the 18 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: State versus Richard Alexander Murdoch defended indictment for murder sc 19 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Code sixteen DASH three D zero zero one zero, CDR 20 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: code zero one one six Okay guilty verdict signed by 21 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: the four lady three two twenty three, Docket number two 22 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: thousand twenty two DASHGS DASH fifteen DASH zero zero five 23 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: nine three. The State of South Carolina, County of Collaton, 24 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: in the Court of General Sessions, the July Term of 25 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty two. The State versus Richard Alexander Murdoch, defendant, 26 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Indictment for murder sc code sixteen DASH three dash zero 27 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: zero one zero, CDR code zero one one six. Verdict 28 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: guilty signed by the four Lady, Date three, two of 29 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: twenty three, Docket number two thousand and twenty two dash 30 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: GS fifteen DASH zero zero five nine five. The State 31 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: of South Carolina, County of Collaton, Court of General Sessions, 32 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: July Term two thousand and twenty two. The State versus 33 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: Richard Alexander Murdoch, defendant, Indictment for possession of a web 34 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: and during the commission of a violent crime sc code 35 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: DASH sixteen DASH twenty three DASH zero four nine zero, 36 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: CDR code zero five four nine. Verdict guilty signed by 37 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: the four person of the jury. Date three two twenty 38 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: three docket number two thousand, twenty two GS Dash fifteen 39 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: DASH zero zero five nine four the State of South Carolina, 40 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: County of Collaton, Court of General Sessions, July term, twenty 41 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: twenty two. The State versus Richard Alexander Murdoch, Defendant, Indictment 42 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: for possession of a weapon during the commission of a 43 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: violent crime sc Code sixteen Dash twenty three dash zero 44 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: four nine zero c DR Code zero five four nine 45 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Verdict guilty signed by the four person of the jury 46 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: three two twenty three. Alex Murdog is the one who 47 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: called nine one one. At this hour. There are police 48 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: officers and sheriffs circling the courthouse around me with their 49 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: blue lights on. The lawn is crowded with spectators, with newspeople, 50 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: with people from the community, people that have driven from 51 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: states far away, as far away I know as Ohio 52 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: to here in South Carolina for the Murdoch trial. Why 53 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: why has everyone been so intrigued with whether or not 54 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: Alex Murdog did it. I'll tell you why, because it's 55 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: as if the mind is tricking the eye. You see 56 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: a beautiful, seemingly happy family, a wealthy, educated, seemingly adjusted 57 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: in their society happy with each other. How can it 58 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: be that double murder has a occurred within that family? 59 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: And for that outward picture, many people believed Alex Murdog 60 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: was innocent. But one layer after the next, after the next, 61 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: after the next proved Alex Murdog is guilty of a 62 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: crime that is practically unthinkable. A man was so much 63 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: the legal heir in Colleton County, millions of dollars, three 64 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: homes of beautiful wife, two sons to follow in his 65 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: footsteps if they wish. Why? That was the question that 66 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: plagued this jury. But in a very quick turnaround, this 67 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: jury has handed down a verdict guilty on all counts, 68 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: read out by the court clerk, Miss Becky straight out 69 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: to Cheryl McCullum, who has been watching the trial from 70 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: the very beginning, forensic expert and founder of the Cold 71 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Case Research Institute, are you surprised because Alex Vernock did 72 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: not look surprised and white with him. I wasn't surprised 73 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: at all. I even said the jury was back in 74 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: three hours. This is a white Paul justice has been first. 75 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: You know, as we were looking out over the jury 76 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: over and over and over, watching their every move, their 77 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: facial expressions, Kelly. They never gave it away, not once, 78 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: not once. In fact, many court spectators were torn as 79 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: to whether this jury would ever reach a verdict. I 80 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: think I've got Kelly skin with me. When you get 81 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: her back on her satellite, let me know. To you, 82 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: Del Carson, what do you make of it? Evidence? Uncontrovertible evidence. 83 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: He was the only person there, and I know when 84 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: I want to launched the testimony of the woman who 85 00:06:53,040 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: was taking care of the dying mother, his mother. I 86 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: watched him and you could see just the constant sort 87 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: of deflection. He was scratching his face when when the 88 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: defense the prosecutor was bringing up the fact that the 89 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: caregiver was crying on the stand because it was a 90 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: good family and she didn't want to tell the truth 91 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: about him asking for the additional forty minutes or twenty 92 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: minutes to help shore up his alibi. When you watched Murdoch, 93 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: you could see the stress bleeding out of his face 94 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: because he knew that was the last person who should 95 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: have believed him and clearly did not believe him and 96 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: had to tell the truth. And it was fascinating for 97 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: me to watch that, and it clear to me and 98 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: as Cheryl McCullum will say, you know, it's what he 99 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: didn't do. So at the very beginning when Sledge showed 100 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: up on the scene, and he's not saying to them, 101 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: why aren't you all out looking for the people who 102 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: did this horrible deed. Those kinds of things are an 103 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: indication that he knew there wasn't anybody else out there 104 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: because he knew her the shooter was. It was him 105 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: with me. Doctor Michelle Dupree, medical examiner, a pathologist, detective 106 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: and author. Doctor Dupree question to you, this is your jurisdiction. 107 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: What do you make the medical examiner on the stand, 108 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: she was under attack, doctor Reemer, but she withstood a 109 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: very intense cross examination, and that jury was sitting on 110 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: the edge of their seats throughout her testimony. I can't 111 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: help but believe her testimony testimony, along with the forensic technology, 112 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: was the straw that broke the camel's back for the defense. Nancy, 113 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. She was amazing. She stood 114 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: there and she took she got a little bit unearthed 115 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: there at a moment, but she was actually being attacked. 116 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: You're right, and she stood her ground, she said, I 117 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: am the one that did the autopsy. I know what 118 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: I saw, and I think that made an impact. I 119 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: have to have been. I'm a little bit surprised in 120 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: this jurisdiction that it was not a hung jury. Why 121 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: do you say that, because my fact is successing. I 122 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: still have a lot of friends in the community. You know, 123 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: the evidence to me was absolutely overwhelming. But all it 124 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: takes is, you know, is one juror and I I 125 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: am just relieved. Actually, you know, the final closing argument 126 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: by the state was made by matters Christine. I want 127 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: to play our cut three. This is a very moving 128 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: last argument a hell Mary by the state. This is 129 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: just before the jury goes out to begin their deliberations. Listen, 130 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: you know it's something else. I don't understand. Your wife 131 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: and your son had just been killed, and you're worried 132 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: about having a lawyer around. Everybody said, well, you know, 133 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: just sled aggs. You need to have a lawyer a 134 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: round for Really, my wife and son had just been butchered, 135 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: and I'm worried about having a lawyer from the alibis 136 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: that he's created that he's doing it. He says, I'm 137 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: went and around, I'm a knees over here, went and 138 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: Rand and I tried to take the pulse of Paul. 139 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: I'll still be on the ground. I get my should 140 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: and I've tried to turn him over, keep trying to 141 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: check his pulse. I went to Maggie, checked her pulse, 142 00:10:50,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: and you can't do that in a twenty seconds. You 143 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: know it's something else. I don't understand. Your wife and 144 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: your son had just been killed, and you're worried about 145 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: having a lawyer running may I said, well, you know 146 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: it's just sled as you need to have a lawyer 147 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: round for Really, my wife and son had just been butchered, 148 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: and I'm worried about having a lawyer from the alibis 149 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: that he's created, that he's doing it, he says, I'm 150 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: went and round on my knees over here went and 151 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: Rand and I tried to take the pulse of Paul. 152 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: I'll still be on the ground over you my soul, 153 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: and I tried to turn him over, keep trying to 154 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: check his pulse. Really, I went to Maggie, checked her 155 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: pulps and you can't do that in twenty seconds. Guys, 156 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: you are hearing attorney matters as he is making that 157 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: final plea to the jury. And when he was doing that, 158 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I think I've got Kelley skiing backup of Fox News 159 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: senior producer. When he was making that argument, Kelly, you 160 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: could have heard a pin drop in the courtroom. And 161 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: those are some of the last words from either side 162 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the jury heard. After that. All they heard was the 163 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: judge's charges and they began deliberations. Kelly, Yeah, Nancy, and 164 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: we heard enclosing arguments today from the prosecution. The directions 165 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: to the jury was used common sense. This isn't complicated. 166 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: There is one person that lied about not being at 167 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: the murder scene. There, it was family weapons, there was 168 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: gunshot residue. The facts don't lie here. And ultimately the 169 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: jury did find Alec Murdock guilty and from what I saw, 170 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: he did not show much emotion when those charges were read. 171 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: Guys are seeing, Hi and Kelly, what's happening at the 172 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: courthouse right now. The de fifth team is just coming 173 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: out of the courthouse. People are chasing them down trying 174 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: to speak to them. So far, what we know is 175 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: they are not giving any interviews to continue on their way. 176 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: They're trying to get the family out of the courthouse. 177 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: But Christine if you could play back, Lauren, if you 178 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: could play back what we were seeing when the verdict 179 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: went down and when they were taking Alex Murdog out 180 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: of the courtroom. For those of you just joining us, 181 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: the verdict has been handed down by a College County jury. 182 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: Alex Murdog guilty on all accounts. He didn't seem surprised. 183 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: No one in the courtroom seems surprised. And the only 184 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: really heartbreaking moment of any of this is right when 185 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: you see Alex Murdog walking out and his son, his 186 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: only surviving son, is looking after him, looking after his 187 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: father as he leaves the courtroom. Sentencing set for tomorrow morning. 188 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, the judge, of course, there's a buster who 189 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: broke down in tears in the courtroom. Cheryl McCollum, the 190 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: judge's hands are tied somewhat. He's facing thirty to life 191 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: without parole behind bars, plus the two gun charges, and 192 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: he is yet to answer up for all the financial crimes. Correct, Nancy, 193 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: He will probably most likely get thirty years, like you know, 194 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: without parole. He's not going anywhere just on these crimes, 195 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: less the financial crimes. But I think everybody right now 196 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: is focused on Buster. He has essentially lost every member 197 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: of his immediate family. And you know that's one of 198 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: those things, this ripple effects people talk about with homicide. 199 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: It affects the family, the friends, the neighbors, co workers. 200 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: You know, this thing has really truly ripped through this 201 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: whole community. Everybody in some way is tied to this family. 202 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: They either worked with him, had a legal deal with them, 203 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: went to school with one of them, with friends with them. 204 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just really a sad, sad day. But again, 205 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: justice was third. It's the right call. I kept looking 206 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: Cheryl to see if Murdog would look back at Buster 207 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,239 Speaker 1: when he left the courtroom, because Buster's eyes never left 208 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: his father, not once. But I guess Murdog is so 209 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: ashamed of what has happened that he didn't look back 210 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: at his son. You know, I was looking at them 211 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: in the courtroom, Kelly's skin. I was sitting directly behind Buster, 212 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: so I could look across the aisle at each witness 213 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: on the stand, and I could see Buster and Murdoch 214 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: really just a few pews apart from each other, and 215 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: they are so alike. Buster's hair is this vibrant red, 216 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: and you see Murdog and you know he's going back 217 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: to law school. We hear and you see Murdog his 218 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: father just a few feet away, with the same red hair, 219 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: but now dulled and going gray, just a little bit 220 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: of the red shining through. Both of them tall, both 221 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: of them dressed to the hilt and designer's suits. They 222 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: look so much alike. And now Kelly Buster is left 223 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: with nobody, no mom, no brother, his father behind bars. 224 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, Nancy. We've heard a lot about Buster 225 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: throughout this trial, mainly that he allegedly plagiarized and got 226 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: kicked out of law school, and his dad tried to 227 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: pay to get him back in. But at the end 228 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: of the day, Buster is a victim in all of 229 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: this too. He lost his mom, he lost his brother, 230 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: and now he has lost his father, and he has 231 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: left with basically the rest of his family to prop 232 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: him up. And really now, the fact that he has 233 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: lost his father is at the hands of his own father. 234 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: So his father destroyed Buster's life and his own. You know, 235 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, there really seems to be right now, no 236 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: one representing Maggie and Paul right now. I'm sure Buster 237 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Murdog is so distraught over losing his father. I don't 238 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: know if he can even consider who should be speaking 239 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: up from Maggie and Paul right now, Because as I 240 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: watched the courtroom, normally I would have the victim's family 241 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: seated right behind me prosecuting cases, but that wasn't true 242 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: in this case. I don't believe we ever saw Maggie 243 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: Murdog's family in the courtroom, you know, Nancy. I think 244 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: that's the other reason you are so important. People like you. 245 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: You have been speaking for Maggie and Paul from day one, 246 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of other people want that long 247 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: to be tonight they're doing the same thing, and I 248 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: think that's what critical here. They have a voice, they 249 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: will continue to have a voice because they have advocates 250 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: all over and you, again have been paramount with that fight. 251 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: And I appreciate you know, doctor Michelle Dupree joining us 252 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: who is joining us from here in South Carolina medical examiner, pathologist, 253 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: former detective and author and doctor Michelle Dupree. Very often 254 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: family members do not look at crime scene photos or 255 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: autopsy photos because that's not the image they want in 256 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: their minds. The rest of their lives. Buster Murdoch has 257 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: had to sit through this trial. I know he's seen 258 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: the evidence and now he's going home to a home 259 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: tonight with no mom, no dad, no brother, and no 260 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: hope of ever getting them back. That's right, Nancy, and 261 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: we actually you encourage the family not to look at 262 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: things like that, because that's not the last memory you 263 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: want of your loved one. I feel for Buster, I 264 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: really do. And as far as who's standing up from 265 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Aggie and Paul, you have and I think our justice 266 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: system did today as well, and the jury did. Guys, 267 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: in that courtroom, it was totally quiet. I noticed no 268 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: one was even moving when the verdict was announced. Complete quiet. 269 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: We now know we will be back at the courthouse 270 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning at nine thirty. You know, many people had 271 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: thought there would be a mandatory sentences. What do you 272 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: expect the sentence to be del the maximum? And I 273 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: can tell you that ordinarily there's a period of time 274 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: after the conviction where probation and a number of agencies 275 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: will report give the court a history of the individual. 276 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: But this is rather unusual because we've had twenty eight 277 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: days or less of testimony that revealed who this individual is. 278 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: So the judge knows who he is, may have known 279 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: him for some time, and so the result is and 280 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: I was surprised by this that the court is willing 281 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning to impose sentencing. So right now, although the 282 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: jury has come back, you realize that he's not convicted 283 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: until the judge makes him convicted and sentences him to 284 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: whatever term he's going to choose for the individual. And 285 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: of course there will be other potential trials or settlements 286 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: with his law firm for the money that was misappropriated 287 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: and stolen by Murroch and taken from or client existing 288 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: clients from the law firm. So none of the it's 289 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: just over yet, guys um, speaking of all of the 290 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: possibilities that the jury was looking at, I want you 291 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: to hear our cut four. This is the final argument 292 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: to the jury before they reached their verdicts. Take a listen. 293 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: You know when the first time he called Buster, it's 294 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: about forty minutes. Lastly he texted him. Didn't he call when? 295 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: This first? Off on the thing? After he did nine 296 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: one one? It was later they oh, don't come no 297 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: right off the bat, this happen to call my son, Holly, Buster, 298 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: stay where you are are you with your girlfriend up 299 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: there North Charlotte? Go go go. We got some people afters. 300 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: That's what's real, don't you You go to the police station, right? 301 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: And what else do you do too? You don't talk 302 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: about being real? What do you do? Oh? I just 303 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: let my mama, she's with Shelley. Get somebody over there 304 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: to speak them out here to kill us. Get them 305 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: over there, go please take them right now there by themselves. 306 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: I can't do that. That's what I took the guns. 307 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: I can't tell him that. And he brings up in 308 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: the both cants right away and right the end he's 309 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: using it to throw off for those of you just 310 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: joining us. The jury is handed down a verdict guilty 311 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: on all counts that includes two counts of murder and 312 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: gun charges. A lady four person handed over the verdicts 313 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: they're written verdicts to thel. The clerk then handed it 314 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: to the judge. Judge Newman read each page carefully and 315 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: then had the clerk of the court published the jury 316 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: in open court, having the defendant stand to hear the verdict. 317 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: As Alex and Verdog stood there in the courtroom, he 318 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: showed no emotion whatsoever, no surprise, no shock, nothing, He 319 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: stood there and listened, not even a tremor of disappointment 320 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: crossing his face. It's as if he expected a guilty verdict. Likewise, 321 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: his lawyers showed no emotion whatsoever, neither did the state. 322 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: Now the courtroom was completely quiet. The judge had already 323 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: admonished the courtroom when they had made noises in the past. 324 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: During the trial, not a word