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Speaker 1: From House to works dot Com. Hello, this is Molly.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. And I'm Kristen Christ. And they

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Speaker 1: were going to talk about something called the G factor.

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Speaker 1: And it's not what you think it is. It's not

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Speaker 1: that G. Y'all. Get your minds out of the gutter

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Speaker 1: right now and then put them right back in. Today

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about sperm and this and the

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Speaker 1: G factor. But the G in this case is general intelligence.

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Speaker 1: And then it is a variable that is sort of

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Speaker 1: used across across the board in terms of, uh this

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Speaker 1: fitness quality known as intelligence because they're thinking that intelligent

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Speaker 1: people tend to do pretty good in life, tend to

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Speaker 1: take care of themselves. Yeah, they think it's a marker

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Speaker 1: of good genetics. And uh so they've they've studied, they've

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Speaker 1: studied intelligence a lot, you know, kind of trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out whether or not you can inherit intelligence, whether

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Speaker 1: or not kind of runs in your bloodline things like that,

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Speaker 1: or in your sperm or in your spur. Which is

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Speaker 1: why we're gonna talk today a lot about semen. Now,

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Speaker 1: the reason why we are talking about intelligence and semen

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Speaker 1: is because we came across the study entitled intelligence and

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Speaker 1: semen quality are positively correlated. And this is when it

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Speaker 1: just really pays off to host a podcast called stuff

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Speaker 1: Mom and or Tology, because it was really the highlight

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Speaker 1: of my week, Kristen, to get an email from you saying,

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Speaker 1: look at the study about intelligence and semen quality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we we have talked about this guy, Jeffrey Miller.

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Speaker 1: He did a study that we've talked about a couple

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Speaker 1: of times about how strippers who are not on birth

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Speaker 1: strippers who are not opulating. So Jeffrey Miller knows this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and so we were naturally when you a title of

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Speaker 1: we are going to get right on that. Yes. So,

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Speaker 1: the reason why Jeffrey Miller and his colleagues were interested

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Speaker 1: And also, I mean you think of that old expression

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Speaker 1: here we've got two disparate things linked. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: so Miller and his colleagues they're trying to get at

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Speaker 1: cognitive correlates to positive health outcomes because there have been

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Speaker 1: studies about how more intelligent people tend to be healthier.

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Speaker 1: They obviously don't smoke as much, they tend to drink less,

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Speaker 1: there any biological underpinnings to that, right, I mean, is

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Speaker 1: the most fit evolutionarily? I mean that that's sort of

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Speaker 1: how evolution works. You think that the best primed people

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Speaker 1: they doing that via sperm? Yeah? And this all also

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Speaker 1: gets into kind of the nature versus nurture question, and

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Speaker 1: I like this this comes up a lot um. Miller

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Speaker 1: You know, they're different. I don't think researchers have quite

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