WEBVTT - Thumbs in the Dike

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<v Speaker 1>Episode four Thumbs and the Dike. We have had too

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<v Speaker 1>much anarchy in our city, the mayor says, and with

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<v Speaker 1>the county sheriff and city police chief behind him, he

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<v Speaker 1>lays out the city's aggressive plan to sweep the encampments

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<v Speaker 1>and strike back at criminals hiding in the guise of

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<v Speaker 1>a social justice movement. He's talking about you, Tom, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>and a growing group of friends and allies who spent

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<v Speaker 1>most of October and November doing eviction resistance. It all

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<v Speaker 1>started with the right wing vigilantes who carried out a

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<v Speaker 1>series of drive by attacks on the camps. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>they just lobbed firecrackers, but that soon evolved into emptying

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<v Speaker 1>handguns into tents. In response, the camps organized roving defensive teams.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of gunfights and one death, although

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't around for any of those. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>the attack stopped, you had a large, organized group of

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<v Speaker 1>people used to taking direct action. From that point, making

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<v Speaker 1>the jump to proactively stopping evictions wasn't such a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Half the landlords in your part of town had jumped

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<v Speaker 1>ship for other cities with less intense climates. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>their properties were sold to banks, or large rental companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Unemployment in your city hit as high as thirty percent

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<v Speaker 1>by some counts, and more people nationwide are out on

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<v Speaker 1>the street than there have ever been at any point

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, at least where you live, though people

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<v Speaker 1>have options. There are now five camps hosting more than

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand people. Two of them are based out of

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<v Speaker 1>large apartment complexes, two were in city parks, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth is made from several square blocks of the city

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<v Speaker 1>that had an eviction rate topping eighty percent. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the people joining collectives are asking for help are folks

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<v Speaker 1>who months ago surely supported the cops cracking down on encampments.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're on your side, driven by desperation. You try

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<v Speaker 1>not to let that piss you off. What matters is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're in this together now, and aggressive eviction offense

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<v Speaker 1>has kept hundreds of your neighbors in their homes and

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<v Speaker 1>helped the population in the camps stay manageable. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course the landlords aren't happy with that, and local business

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<v Speaker 1>owners keep blaming the camps for graffiti and hampering the recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>You spend enough time online to know this ship is

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<v Speaker 1>happening all around the country and eviction defense action in

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<v Speaker 1>Portland turned into a gun battle. Activists in l A

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<v Speaker 1>responded to the tear gassing of an encampment by bombing

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<v Speaker 1>an l A p D van, and worst of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the NYPD killed three activists while clearing out a squat

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<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn. Every day, two different digital collectives allied with

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<v Speaker 1>the encampments gather not just news of different protests around

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<v Speaker 1>the country, but tactical information and after action reports. You, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the other hundreds of people in the

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<v Speaker 1>Defensive Committee have been taking notes. You've welded together cal

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<v Speaker 1>trips and dote vehicle barricades, rigged up paint cannons to

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<v Speaker 1>coat police car windshields, and experimented with a dozen other

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<v Speaker 1>tactics to protect the main camps. This is bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>your hometown and your little movement. The federal government has

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<v Speaker 1>responded to the absolute societal free fall of the last

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<v Speaker 1>year by blaming anarchists in government, extremists, and an addiction

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<v Speaker 1>to government entitlements. Disaster funding keeps being slashed, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of this started anyway, But the President

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<v Speaker 1>just announced a raft of emergency police funding using money

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<v Speaker 1>the last administration had remarked for climate resiliency projects. You've

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<v Speaker 1>spent the last few days going about your duties with

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of doom hanging over your head. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just the imminent government crackdown. The food situation has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly tenuous. Wheat crops saw less than half their normal harvest.

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<v Speaker 1>Even potatoes dropped significantly. Several of the camps have started

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<v Speaker 1>permaculture projects in greenhouses, but no one is growing anything

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<v Speaker 1>like what you need to feed all these people. Donations

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<v Speaker 1>helped for a while, but everyone's tapped. For the last

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. You've been able to close the gap by

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<v Speaker 1>sending out dumpster diving teams into the neighborhoods with stocked

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<v Speaker 1>grocery stores and functioning restaurants. One of your neighbors works

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<v Speaker 1>in an Amazon warehouse, and he provided Tom with information

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<v Speaker 1>on how to break in and where to find the

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<v Speaker 1>dried goods. All this has helped, but the police have

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<v Speaker 1>grown increasingly aware of your efforts. People in the rich

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods have been using a community defense app to warn

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<v Speaker 1>the police about criminals stealing food. Mark, a guy you

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<v Speaker 1>sort of knew from a few past eviction defenses, was

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<v Speaker 1>shot dead outside of a safeway two nights back. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't keep going on like this, Tom says, And he

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<v Speaker 1>tells you he's been reaching out to an old marine

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<v Speaker 1>buddy of his who lives on a farm a couple

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<v Speaker 1>hours out of town. They've got food, but their grid

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<v Speaker 1>is still fucked from the summer, and half the small

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<v Speaker 1>farms out there have lost so much production that they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the edge of eviction themselves. We have electricians, we

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<v Speaker 1>can get equipment, and we've got manpower people who will

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<v Speaker 1>help harvest and stand up against the sheriff's department if

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<v Speaker 1>there's an eviction. You'd be lying if you said Tom's

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion didn't scare you a little bit. By bit, the

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<v Speaker 1>daily grind of survival, building resiliency and protecting your community

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<v Speaker 1>has grown to feel more seditious. That seems a bit strong.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you're talking about treating fighters for food to

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<v Speaker 1>defend a farming town against the police. That's nuts. Fuck it.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell Tom, let's get the others together and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Seems like a good idea to me. In night,

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<v Speaker 1>climate scientist James Hansen testified to the Senate and claimed

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time that human influence on warning was

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<v Speaker 1>discernible and separate from natural variability. James was not the

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<v Speaker 1>first expert to warn about what we now call climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was the first one to get up in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the country and give a warning in such

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<v Speaker 1>a clear and unequivocal way at a time when many

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<v Speaker 1>of his fellows would him and haw about natural variability.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, there was tremendous debate, fueled by donations

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<v Speaker 1>from the fossil fuel industry and politicians eager for a

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<v Speaker 1>culture war, about whether or not Hansen was a doomsayer

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<v Speaker 1>or a prophet. We now know that he was, if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>too optimistic. The warming trends we have seen put us

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<v Speaker 1>roughly thirty years ahead of his most dire predictions. It's

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<v Speaker 1>worth digging into exactly how has happened part of the

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<v Speaker 1>story you already know. Companies like Exxon spent hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars over the last forty years funding think

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<v Speaker 1>tanks and propaganda campaigns designed to so doubt over the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of climate change or global warming. As a child

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in the Bible Belt, nearly everything I learned

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<v Speaker 1>about climate change was filtered through this lens. The picture

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<v Speaker 1>painted by media pundits and best selling authors like Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Crichton was that scientists were at worst corrupt shills pushing

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<v Speaker 1>an environmentalist agenda, and at best alarmist's ginning up panic

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<v Speaker 1>over minor fluctuations in climate. Paul Erlick came up quite

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<v Speaker 1>often in this context. In the late nineteen sixties, he

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<v Speaker 1>was an entomologist at Stanford University who released a book

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<v Speaker 1>called The Population Bomb. Its first sentence was, the battle

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<v Speaker 1>to feed all of humanity is over. Paul predicted that

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventies, hundreds of millions of people were

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<v Speaker 1>going to starve to death due to overpopulation, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing anyone could do to prevent it. The Population

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<v Speaker 1>Bomb sparked a global panic and an anti population growth

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<v Speaker 1>movement that led to repressive laws around the world. It

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<v Speaker 1>also didn't come true, thanks in large part to the

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<v Speaker 1>green Revolution sparked by Agronomius. To Norman Borlog's work, there

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<v Speaker 1>was no mass starvation. Borlog has been rightfully lauded for

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<v Speaker 1>creating new hybrid seeds that vastly increased the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>calories farmers in places like India were able to produce.

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<v Speaker 1>His work is credited with saving as many as a

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<v Speaker 1>billion lives. I first learned about him on Penn and

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<v Speaker 1>Teller's Bullshit, a libertarian themed science he show that was

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<v Speaker 1>popular in the early aughts for the same reason as

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<v Speaker 1>South Park. Both shows managed to be anti liberal without

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<v Speaker 1>being right wing in the traditional sense. For kids raised

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<v Speaker 1>conservative but disillusioned with the Republican Party due to the

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<v Speaker 1>Iraq War, these shows provided seemingly clever arguments for why

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<v Speaker 1>both sides were dumb and the smartest thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>was make fun of them. This is not a bad

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<v Speaker 1>thing under all circumstances. If you reflexively to like both

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican and Democratic parties, you will be right more

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<v Speaker 1>often than you were wrong. But in the early at

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<v Speaker 1>some prominent Democrats, most significantly al Gore, did try to

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<v Speaker 1>warn people about climate change. These folks were framed as alarmists,

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<v Speaker 1>like Paul Erlick. Penn and Teller were one of a

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<v Speaker 1>number of popular voices that specifically used Borlog's example to

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<v Speaker 1>attack environmentalists worried about global warming. We'd better develop and

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<v Speaker 1>ever improved science and technology, including the new by technology

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<v Speaker 1>to produce the foodia needed for the world to day. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the humanitarian efforts of people like Dr Borlog are undermined

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<v Speaker 1>by Greenpeace and other assholes. Now, Pinjillette has somewhat come

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<v Speaker 1>around on climate change in recent days, but even in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, in this interview for the Origins podcast, he's

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<v Speaker 1>stuck to the same line about al Gore being an alarmist.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's no way you can deny that

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<v Speaker 1>is climate change. I've completely changed on that, although completely

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<v Speaker 1>changed is a little bit confusing because I never went

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<v Speaker 1>beyond I don't know what bothers me about. The climate

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<v Speaker 1>change thing was a great disservice done by al Gore

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<v Speaker 1>of exaggerating. We now know that not only did Algor

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<v Speaker 1>not exaggerate, but it would actually be fair to attack

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<v Speaker 1>him for painting far too rosie a picture of what

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<v Speaker 1>climate change would cause and the adaptations are society would

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<v Speaker 1>need to adopt in order to mitigate it. I'm harping

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<v Speaker 1>on Penn and Teller in particular because this exact line

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking has led to the most durable sort of

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<v Speaker 1>climate denial I've seen in my own life. Earlier this year,

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<v Speaker 1>my father and I endured the most severe snowstorm in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas history together. When I tried to talk about climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>He brought up Paul Erlick and the fact that even

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<v Speaker 1>if climate change is as bad as they say, some

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<v Speaker 1>Norman Borlog will along with a scientific solution that will

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<v Speaker 1>save us. There is no sign of this so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Carbon capture technology, which works by capturing carbon before it

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<v Speaker 1>can reach the atmosphere, has proved to be extremely disappointing.

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<v Speaker 1>Only about point one percent of annual global emissions from

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<v Speaker 1>fossil fuels are captured at present, and of the carbon

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<v Speaker 1>captured to date has been used to extract more oil

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<v Speaker 1>from wells by pumping that carbon into the ground to

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<v Speaker 1>force oil out. But still Boorlog shadow looms large over

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<v Speaker 1>the climate question. Today's episode is about the different paths

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<v Speaker 1>to mitigation and adaptation that we might see in the

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<v Speaker 1>future as the damage caused by climate change becomes too

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<v Speaker 1>great to ignore. Weight and hope for a super genius

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<v Speaker 1>is certainly the path some individuals and probably some politicians

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to take. The myth of the Leonaire inventor

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<v Speaker 1>and the personality colts around men like Elon Musk and

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<v Speaker 1>their own little green projects has made this a popular

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<v Speaker 1>school of thought over the last decade. The good news

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<v Speaker 1>is that we've already reached a point of calamity great

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<v Speaker 1>enough that support for this sort of solution is probably

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<v Speaker 1>past its peak. On the day I write this chapter, July,

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<v Speaker 1>the Guardian has just published an article warning that yet

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<v Speaker 1>another heat dome is set to settle over the entire

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<v Speaker 1>continental United States. The article quoted Michael Verner, a senior

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<v Speaker 1>scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, quote, you expect

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<v Speaker 1>hotter heat waves with climate change, but the estimates may

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<v Speaker 1>have been overly conservative. With the Pacific Northwest heat wave,

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<v Speaker 1>you conclude the event would almost be impossible without climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>But in a straightforward statistical analysis from before this summer,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd also include it would be impossible with climate change too.

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<v Speaker 1>That is problematic because the event happened. For years, climate

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<v Speaker 1>scientists have been attacked as alarmist, Yet the growing can

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<v Speaker 1>census is that they were actually too conservative with their warnings.

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<v Speaker 1>The situation was more severe than most reports portrayed. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we go further, it's worth looking at why this was.

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<v Speaker 1>I found a good scientific American article from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen by the authors of a book called Discerning Experts,

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<v Speaker 1>which analyze the methods by which experts had assessed environmental

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<v Speaker 1>damage in order to provide policy recommendations. They found a

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<v Speaker 1>consistent tendency by scientists to underestimate the severity of threats

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<v Speaker 1>and the rapidity with which they might unfold quote. Among

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<v Speaker 1>the factors that appear to contribute to underestimation is the

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<v Speaker 1>perceived need for consensus, or what we might label univocality,

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<v Speaker 1>the felt need to speak in a single voice. Many

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<v Speaker 1>scientists worry that if disagreement has publicly aired, government officials

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<v Speaker 1>will conflate differences of opinion with ignorance and use this

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<v Speaker 1>as justification for an action. Others worry that even if

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<v Speaker 1>policymakers want to act, they will find it difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>do so if scientists fail to send an unambiguous message

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<v Speaker 1>there or they will actively seek to find their common

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<v Speaker 1>ground and focus on areas of agreement. In some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>there will only put forward conclusions on which they can

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<v Speaker 1>all agree. How does this lead to underestimation? Consider a

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<v Speaker 1>case in which most scientists think that the correct answer

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<v Speaker 1>to a question is in the range of one to ten,

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<v Speaker 1>but some belief that it could be as high as

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred. In such a case, everyone will agree that

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<v Speaker 1>it is at least one to ten, but not everyone

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<v Speaker 1>will agree that it could be as high as one hundred. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>the area of agreement is one to ten, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is reported as the consensus view. Wherever there is a

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<v Speaker 1>range of possible outcomes that includes along a high end

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<v Speaker 1>tail of probability, the area of overlap will necessarily lie

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<v Speaker 1>at or near the low end. The other cause of problems,

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<v Speaker 1>they conclude was a common mental model practiced by the

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<v Speaker 1>media as well as by scientists, which tends to unconsciously

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<v Speaker 1>consider facts to be something which all reasonable people should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to agree upon. If there is a mass

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<v Speaker 1>disagreement over the conclusions of a report, then it must

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<v Speaker 1>be because those conclusions are based on opinion rather than facts.

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<v Speaker 1>And the third reason for underestimation involves a very simple

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<v Speaker 1>worry of a reputation. In good science, being wrong shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be bad for your career, as a large part of

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<v Speaker 1>the discipline is making hypotheses which are either proven or

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<v Speaker 1>disproven by testing. But when we're talking about a field

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<v Speaker 1>as politicized as climate science, going too far in a

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<v Speaker 1>prediction gets you labeled an alarmist by media talking heads.

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<v Speaker 1>This leads to an understandable trend to conservatism and climate predictions.

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<v Speaker 1>All these factors have already caused huge problems for our society,

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<v Speaker 1>and as we move forward towards trying to adapt, these

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<v Speaker 1>trends will, if not disrupted, caused further calamity. In the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties, fighter pilot Colonel John Boyd coined the term

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<v Speaker 1>ODA loop to describe the cycle by which human beings

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<v Speaker 1>and organizations make decisions at the operational level during military

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns ODA stands for observe, orient, decide, act, and Colonel

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd's terminology has been applied in a dizzying variety of

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<v Speaker 1>situations since, from training troops for combat to training corporations

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<v Speaker 1>for cyber security. The ODA loop helps explain how an

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<v Speaker 1>agile and creative opponent can disrupt and defeat a seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>much more powerful enemy. The basic idea is that if

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<v Speaker 1>you can break any part of your enemy's ODE loop,

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<v Speaker 1>you can stop them from properly reacting in a given

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<v Speaker 1>situation and eventually defeat them. Stop the enemy from observing

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<v Speaker 1>you and they can't orient themselves to your attack, decide

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<v Speaker 1>how to respond to you or take action, disrupt the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy's ability to make decisions, and even if they see

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, they won't be able to act on it

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<v Speaker 1>for years. Our ability to properly observe and orient ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>to the problem of climate change has been hampered by

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<v Speaker 1>all the things we just discussed. As I type this,

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<v Speaker 1>wildfires are burning across the width of Canada. Subways in

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<v Speaker 1>multiple major world cities have become watery tombs. The scope

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<v Speaker 1>of the issue is finally beyond a reasonable doubt in

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<v Speaker 1>almost everyone's mind, yet we still find ourselves disrupted when

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<v Speaker 1>we reach d There will come a time when the

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<v Speaker 1>governments of the world will decide and then act with

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<v Speaker 1>much more of a concerted plan than we've seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to predicting what that decision, or more realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>those decisions might be, the best book I found is

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<v Speaker 1>Climate Leviathan by Joel Wainwright and joff Man. The term

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<v Speaker 1>Leviathan comes from a book by Hobbes, The Philosopher not

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<v Speaker 1>the Tiger, which argues that peace and unity can only

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<v Speaker 1>be achieved by the creation of a sovereign power responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for protecting the commonwealth and given absolute authority to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially an argument for a big, all powerful state

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<v Speaker 1>or sovereign to keep everything nice. Wainwright and Man's book

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<v Speaker 1>stems from the premise that most people, out of fear

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<v Speaker 1>or desperation, will probably back some sort of leviathan as

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<v Speaker 1>an answer to climate change. Quote. We contend that the

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<v Speaker 1>drive to defend capitalist social relations will putch the world

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<v Speaker 1>towards climate leviathan, namely adaptation projects to allow capitalist eletes

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<v Speaker 1>to stabilize their position amidst planetary crises. This scenario, we

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<v Speaker 1>pose it implies a shift in the character and form

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<v Speaker 1>of sovereignty, the likely emergence of planetary sovereignty defined by

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<v Speaker 1>an exception proclaimed in the name of preserving life on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not suggesting that sovereignty will be characterized by

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<v Speaker 1>the quasi monarchical rule of a single person, but we recognize,

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<v Speaker 1>as some suggest, Hobbs himself and even Carl Schmidt at

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<v Speaker 1>least after ninety two, also recognized that it is almost

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<v Speaker 1>certainly to be exercised by a collection of powers coordinated

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<v Speaker 1>to save the planet and to determine what measures are

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<v Speaker 1>necessary and what and who must be sacrificed in the

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<v Speaker 1>interests of life on Earth. Wainwright and Man envision a

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<v Speaker 1>few different types of possible leviathan one elucidated above is

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<v Speaker 1>a neoliberal, capitalist leviathan. Think of it as an extension

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<v Speaker 1>of the Western States and the attitudes we've seen so far,

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<v Speaker 1>the smiling face of someone like Joe Biden talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of using paper bags while giving Exxon tax

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<v Speaker 1>breaks so they can invest in cloud seating technology. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the most frightening things about this possibility is that

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<v Speaker 1>the very same corporate actors responsible for fighting any action

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<v Speaker 1>on climate change up until now will surely find a

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<v Speaker 1>key space for themselves partaking in state funded mitigation efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of Jeff Bezos suggesting that polluting industrial buildings be

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<v Speaker 1>moved into space, or imagine Chevron using some of their

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<v Speaker 1>vast fortune to invent snow piercer style technology to blanket

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere and reduce warming. These possibilities are frightening because

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<v Speaker 1>any solutions dreamed up under this regime are likely to

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<v Speaker 1>be as selfish and ill considered as the long campaign

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<v Speaker 1>to deny the reality of climate change. In this future,

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<v Speaker 1>the architects of our present misery and shrine themselves forever

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<v Speaker 1>as our protectors. Wainwright and Man also envision what they

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat cheekily call climate Mao an anti capitalist state centered Leviathan,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly based around China or a block of Southeast Asian nations.

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<v Speaker 1>While Climate Leviathan would be an attempt to maintain the

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<v Speaker 1>present capitalist world order while stabilising the environment, Climate Mao

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<v Speaker 1>was a quasi revolutionary attempt to replace it with a

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<v Speaker 1>system just as centralized, but not based around the moneyed

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<v Speaker 1>interests that got us here from the book Climate Leviathan.

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<v Speaker 1>Even today, when an increasingly non Maoist Chinese state invokes

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<v Speaker 1>its full regulatory authority, it can achieve political feats unimaginable

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<v Speaker 1>in liberal democracy. Perhaps the most notable instance of state

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<v Speaker 1>coordinated climate authority is the matter in which Beijing's air

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<v Speaker 1>quality was re engineered during the two thousand eight Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>Flowers potted all over the city, traffic barred, trees planted

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<v Speaker 1>in the desert, and factories and power plants closed, all

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<v Speaker 1>to successfully blew the skies for the games. Another effect

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<v Speaker 1>of this power is the way in which the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>state effectively killed General Motors gas guzzling Hummer in early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand ten, when it blocked the division's sale to

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<v Speaker 1>Sichuan Tenjong Heavy Industrial Machinery due to the vehicles of

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<v Speaker 1>missions levels. One might also point to the Great Green

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<v Speaker 1>Wall against Desertification, which if successfully completed, will cross four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>four eighty meters of northern China, and various tree planting

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<v Speaker 1>programs that will purportedly give the country forest cover. By

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<v Speaker 1>and since vowing in the summer of two thousand ten

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<v Speaker 1>to apply an iron hand to the task of reducing emissions,

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<v Speaker 1>the Communist Party closed more than two thousand steel mills

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<v Speaker 1>and other carbon emitting factories by March two thousand eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>In mid two thousand sixteen, the government announced new dietary

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<v Speaker 1>guidelines encouraging people to consume no more than seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>grams of meat per day. Reducing meat consumption was justified

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<v Speaker 1>on health and environmental grounds and hailed as by climate activists.

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<v Speaker 1>Such policies foretell the possibility of a climate MAO were

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<v Speaker 1>China to become a global hedgemon and also change under

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary pressures. To be clear, that is a very big if.

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<v Speaker 1>If Leviathan is an attempt to maintain the capitalest world

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<v Speaker 1>ordered in an ego friendly manner, behemoth by far the

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<v Speaker 1>darkest potential future is an acknowledgment that the situation is

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<v Speaker 1>well and truly fucked. The damage is done, and all

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<v Speaker 1>that can be done is grab as much power and

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<v Speaker 1>as many resources as possible and concentrate them in the

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<v Speaker 1>hands of a chosen few, be it a specific nation

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps an ethno state. Behemoth is the fascist state

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<v Speaker 1>solution to climate change. It's only children will be endless

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<v Speaker 1>resource wars. Now, these are fairly broad categories, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are likely to see variations of each of these archetypes attempted.

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<v Speaker 1>You may note my lack of enthusiasm for any of

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<v Speaker 1>the possibilities. This is a result of my own bias.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a statist, and while Behemoth is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the nightmare solution, I am not excited by either the

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<v Speaker 1>neoliberal climate Leviathan or climate MAO. Top down solutions to

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<v Speaker 1>big problems can work, clearly, but they have a nasty

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<v Speaker 1>tendency to crush people in order to fit them into

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<v Speaker 1>a system. An example of why I fear climate Leviathan

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<v Speaker 1>in particular came on June one, when the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>Police Department rated the home of a man with a

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<v Speaker 1>significant quantity of illegal fireworks in the midst of the

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<v Speaker 1>deadliest fire season in living memory. The Boys at the

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<v Speaker 1>top decided that cops would need to crack down on

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks fenders. It seems logical enough from a high vantage point,

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<v Speaker 1>and elected leaders always like to send police in to

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<v Speaker 1>see ship because then they can say X pounds of

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<v Speaker 1>substance y was confiscated, and that makes for an easy

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<v Speaker 1>sound bite. But on this occasion, the l ap D

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up. Their technicians loaded what they thought were sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>point five pounds of explosives into an armored truck in

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<v Speaker 1>order to safely detonate it. Instead, they set off forty

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<v Speaker 1>two pounds, which started a chain reaction that turned the

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<v Speaker 1>entire armored truck into a massive I e. D. The

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<v Speaker 1>resulting explosion destroyed multiple homes and led to the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>of two people plus numerous injuries. These are the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of decisions we can expect from climate Leviathan, and the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of consequences too. In their book, Wainwright and Man

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<v Speaker 1>the least likely but best case scenario as something they

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<v Speaker 1>call climate X. This would be a decentralized, ground up

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation to the realities of climate change, a reorganization of

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<v Speaker 1>society not around the lines forced on it by some Leviathan,

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<v Speaker 1>but by regular people rejecting both the consumptive, destructive patterns

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<v Speaker 1>of old and the need for a strong dictatorial power

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<v Speaker 1>to envision a future for them. This is the least

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<v Speaker 1>likely scenario for a number of reasons. For one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Climate X requires getting a large number of people to

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<v Speaker 1>embrace a future radically different and fundamental organization from the

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<v Speaker 1>world they've known. Climate MAL has to do this too,

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<v Speaker 1>but within the sort of strong state framework that is

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<v Speaker 1>at least much more familiar and thus more comfortable to

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<v Speaker 1>billions of people. We can envision the state taking charge

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<v Speaker 1>and instituting radical change much more easily than we can

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<v Speaker 1>imagine hundreds of millions of people making the decision to

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<v Speaker 1>alter their lives for the betterment of billions of strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>Climate Leviathan offers a very plausible set of predictions for

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<v Speaker 1>the different paths that are most likely, but of course

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<v Speaker 1>it is still not guaranteed that our nation, or other

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<v Speaker 1>large blocks of nations, will ever complete their climate ode

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<v Speaker 1>Loup Mike Davis is a historian and a social critic

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<v Speaker 1>with an enviable reputation for predicting the future. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety he published City of Courts, an analysis of Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles that many saw as predicting the epic riots that

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<v Speaker 1>convulsive the city. In nineteen ninety two, his work was

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<v Speaker 1>respected enough within Los Angeles that the Crips and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bloods brought him on as an adviser to help negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>peacemaking deals. In nine Davis wrote Cataclysm of Fear, which

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<v Speaker 1>predicted the next twenty plus years of life in southern California,

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<v Speaker 1>with the line cataclysm has become virtually routine. In two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand five, he published a book on the Avian flu

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<v Speaker 1>as a plague of capitalism, titled The Monster Inters. Davis

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<v Speaker 1>quoted the influencer researcher Robert Webster saying, if a pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>happened today, hospital facilities would be overwhelmed and understaffed because

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<v Speaker 1>many medical personnel would be afflicted with the disease. Vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>production would be slow, critical community services would be immobilized.

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<v Speaker 1>Reserves of existing vaccines and medical equipment would be quickly depleted,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving most people vulnerable to infection. Sounds familiar. Permanent bio

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<v Speaker 1>protection against new plagues, Davis added, would require more than vaccines.

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<v Speaker 1>It would need the suppression of these structures of disease emergence.

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<v Speaker 1>The revolutionary reforms in agriculture and urban living that no

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<v Speaker 1>capitalist or state capitalist country whatever willingly undertake. Also, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Mike Davis predicted the two thousand eight economic

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<v Speaker 1>crash in an article for the Los Angeles Times, the

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<v Speaker 1>point is he's the kind of guy you should listen

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<v Speaker 1>to when he makes predictions. In two thousand ten, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the utter failure of international efforts to mitigate

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<v Speaker 1>climate change and imagined a not improbable scenario in which

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<v Speaker 1>mitigation would be quietly abandoned in favor of accelerated investment

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<v Speaker 1>and selective adaptation for Earth's first class passengers. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>here I might bring us briefly back to the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of Jeff Bezos's flight to space. An analysis by Media

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<v Speaker 1>Matters found that the NBC, ABC, and CBS morning shows

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<v Speaker 1>devoted two hundred twelve minutes to Bezos's flight. By contrast,

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<v Speaker 1>those same shows spent two hundred and sixty seven minutes

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<v Speaker 1>covering climate in all of twenty twenty. Now, rich people

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<v Speaker 1>flee to space isn't the likeliest solution the elites will

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<v Speaker 1>shoot for. It's more probable that they'd continue what they've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing for decades. Diverting more resources towards creating permanent

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<v Speaker 1>safe zones shielded from the worst of climate change and

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<v Speaker 1>isolated enough from population centers that their security forces can

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<v Speaker 1>protect them from interlopers. There will be token efforts carbon

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<v Speaker 1>taxes and famine relief, but on the whole, the world's

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<v Speaker 1>poor and much of the middle class will be abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>to misery and death. The only public field the powerful

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<v Speaker 1>will invest in his law enforcement. We've seen shades of

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<v Speaker 1>this already last spring, when the coronavirus started its deadly

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<v Speaker 1>rampage through the Western democracies. The Internet filled with a

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<v Speaker 1>flurry of year identical articles from Bloomberg Coronavirus escape Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Americans head to New Zealand, the New Yorker Doomsday prep

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<v Speaker 1>for the super Rich Vanity Fair inside the survivalist bunker

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<v Speaker 1>where some wealthy people hope to ride out coronavirus. And

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<v Speaker 1>from the Guardian super rich jet off to disaster bunkers

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<v Speaker 1>amid coronavirus outbreak. The gist of all these articles is

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<v Speaker 1>that the ultra wealthy have built a global system of

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<v Speaker 1>safe houses and bunkers in places they deemed secure in

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<v Speaker 1>the event of a wide variety of catastrophes. What I

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<v Speaker 1>find interesting about this is that their preparations are not

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<v Speaker 1>particularly focused in what we know does not suggest any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of collapse the wealthy sea coming due to the

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<v Speaker 1>special knowledge they have as members of the elite. Rather,

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence suggests they've simply fallen into the same assumption

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<v Speaker 1>as millions of regular people. Something terrible is on the horizon.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand seventeen, Lincoln co founder Reid Hoffmann told

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<v Speaker 1>The New Yorker that he estimated fifty percent of Silicon

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<v Speaker 1>Valley billionaires had already purchased some sort of a ocalypse

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<v Speaker 1>escape plan. And honestly, if you had that kind of money,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you? This is bleak as hell. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the individuals most responsible for encouraging and profiting from the

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<v Speaker 1>reckless consumption that has endangered us all abandoning society via

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<v Speaker 1>the most literal application of fuck you, money and history.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you dig into the whole story here, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually somewhat optimistic, because the thing is, these people are

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<v Speaker 1>clearly just as terrified as the rest of us. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why they do things like spend one point five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a piece for a nine hundred and twenty square

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<v Speaker 1>foot room and a survival condo built into an underground

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<v Speaker 1>missile silo in Kansas. The best thing many of them

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<v Speaker 1>can think to do is build isolated miniatures of the

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<v Speaker 1>outside world. Staff it with former Navy seals and hope

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<v Speaker 1>for the best. These are not people who have a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>This was really driven home to me in a two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eighteen article by Douglas Rushkoff, a media theorist and

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<v Speaker 1>writer whose work has been extremely influential among tech elites.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand seventeen, he was invited to what he

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<v Speaker 1>described as a super deluc private resort to deliver a

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<v Speaker 1>keynote speech on the future of technology. Quote. After I arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>I was ushered into what I thought was the green room,

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of being wired with a microphone or taken

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<v Speaker 1>to a stage, I sat around a playing round table

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<v Speaker 1>as my audience was brought to me five super wealthy guys, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all men from the upper echelon of the hedge fund world.

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<v Speaker 1>After a bit of small talk, I realized they had

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in the information I had prepared about the

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<v Speaker 1>future of technology. They had come with questions of their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Those questions quickly led to the climate crisis, and they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know if New Zealand or Alaska was a

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<v Speaker 1>safer escape bet. One of these CEOs had just finished

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<v Speaker 1>building his own underground bunker system and wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I maintain authority over my security force after

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<v Speaker 1>the event? Quote the event that was their euphemism for

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or

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<v Speaker 1>Mr robot hack that takes everything down. The single question

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<v Speaker 1>occupied us for the rest of the hour. The new

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<v Speaker 1>armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from

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<v Speaker 1>the angry mobs, but how would they pay the guards

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<v Speaker 1>once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from

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<v Speaker 1>choosing their own leader. The billionaires considered using special combination

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<v Speaker 1>locks on the food supply that only they knew, or

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<v Speaker 1>making guards where disciplinary collars of some kind in return

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<v Speaker 1>for their survival, or maybe building robots to serve as

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<v Speaker 1>guards and workers. If that technology could be developed in time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when it hit me. At least as far as

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<v Speaker 1>these gentlemen were concerned. This was a talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>future of technology. Taking their cue from Elon Musk, colonizing Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Tile, reversing the aging process, or sam Altman and

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Ray Kurz. While uploading their minds into supercomputers, they were

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for a digital future that had a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>less to do with making the world a better place

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<v Speaker 1>than it did with transcending the human condition altogether and

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<v Speaker 1>insulating themselves from a very real and present danger of

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<v Speaker 1>climate change, rising sea levels, mass migrations, global pandemics, nativist panic,

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<v Speaker 1>and resource depletion. For them, the future of technology is

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<v Speaker 1>really about just one thing escape. At one point, rush

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<v Speaker 1>Off suggested that if these billionaires were really concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>the loyalty of their hired security long term, their best

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<v Speaker 1>bet would be to start treating those people like family. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Money loses value after the event, love does not. He

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<v Speaker 1>also noted that if they were to use their power

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<v Speaker 1>and influence to extend this ethos of inclusivity more broadly

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<v Speaker 1>in their business practices, it might make such an event

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<v Speaker 1>less likely to occur. Quote, they were amused by my optimism,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't really buy it. They were not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in how to avoid a calamity. They're convinced we are

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<v Speaker 1>too far gone. For all their wealth and power, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe they can affect the future, and that right

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<v Speaker 1>there is why I am actually optimistic, because these people

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<v Speaker 1>are the enemy. We are at present engaged in a

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<v Speaker 1>battle to determine how the future of our species and

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<v Speaker 1>life on earth will look. We, and by we I

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<v Speaker 1>mean people who want a better, freer, healthier future for all,

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<v Speaker 1>have a few different enemies, but our most powerful foes

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<v Speaker 1>are the people currently standing atop the pyramid, fighting tooth

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<v Speaker 1>and nail against any change to society that reduces their

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<v Speaker 1>privilege and power. These men and women will go to

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<v Speaker 1>their graves to preserve the present power structure as long

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<v Speaker 1>as the rest of us go first. For decades, the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy has had the upper hand, using disinformation, propaganda, the

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<v Speaker 1>violence of the state, and an arsenal of lesser weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>They disrupted every attempt to build a less extractive, more

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable society. But now that the fires are at everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>back door, they have no plan beyond locking themselves away

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<v Speaker 1>from the consequences of the world they insisted on building.

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<v Speaker 1>Reality can no longer be denied, and that's disrupted their

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<v Speaker 1>ode loop. This means those of us on Team Better

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<v Speaker 1>World finally have a chance to get the upper hand.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that, though we're going to have to make

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<v Speaker 1>some decisions of our own