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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark Vandermin and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you as we get together to discuss many

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Speaker 1: things involving your local professional football franchise and sometimes other

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Speaker 1: things that come along as well as the draft. Is

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Speaker 1: John Harris is two weeks from Thursday, two.

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Speaker 2: Weeks, sixteen days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nothing, and it's nothing. Andre wher is going

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Speaker 1: to join you and I and Robert Hensley with the

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Speaker 1: updates for Round one. I know the Texans have no

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Speaker 1: Round one picks, but we will be live hey right

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Speaker 1: as of now, as of now, because you just never know.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I don't think there's a I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I've said that many many times.

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Speaker 1: It's not happening.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's not happening.

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Speaker 2: But it wouldn't shock me if Nick had something.

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Speaker 1: Cooking just in case, just in case player X drops

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Speaker 1: down to thirty or twenty nine and he can make

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Speaker 1: some kind of deal.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he calls up Andy Reid Brettveitch like hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: if they won't say who the player is, but hey,

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Speaker 3: would you guys be willing to deal if our guy's

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Speaker 3: still on the board. Sure, what are you thinking about

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so I listen. I'm not putting anything after

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Speaker 3: what we've seen Nick doing a draft. I'm not putting

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Speaker 3: anything past them to trade all the way up to

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Speaker 3: number three and go get Marvin Harrison Junior. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there's a way he could, but I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: It's funny to put it that way a year ago

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Speaker 1: doing this show. It's twenty twenty three. Let's go on

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Speaker 1: the time machine, Johnny. What are the odds of Nick

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Speaker 1: actually making a pick at number two and then spending

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Speaker 1: whatever he needs to spend to move up to three

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Speaker 1: to take another player. What do you think the odds

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Speaker 1: are of that happening. He's not gonna happen. There's no chance,

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Speaker 1: no way.

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Speaker 3: But interesting thing about it was, Mark, with all the

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Speaker 3: mock draft simulators that are out there, I kept playing

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Speaker 3: around with what would it cost to go up to

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Speaker 3: get two of the elite players, one of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: Bryce and Bryce or CJ. And then one of the

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Speaker 3: defensive players Jalen Carter will Anderson Junior. Now, obviously Jalen

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Speaker 3: kind of played his way out of uh that possibility,

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Speaker 3: given some of the things he had going on off

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Speaker 3: the field, But I still was this was kind of

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Speaker 3: before that that took place.

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Speaker 2: How do we get two of these elite players?

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Speaker 3: Because I kept thinking, and you and I have talked

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Speaker 3: about this for a while, what was was this organization lacking?

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Speaker 2: What was lacking? Elite players? Had to go out and

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Speaker 2: get elite players?

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought twenty twenty three's draft, it was a

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Speaker 3: four player elite player draft. It was the two quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: price to CJ and it was Anderson and Carter. How

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Speaker 3: do you get two of them? Because you have two

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Speaker 3: to twelve? Is there a way? And I would play

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Speaker 3: around with it. How do I how what do I

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Speaker 3: have to give up? How do do I have to

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Speaker 3: get to five? Do I have to get to Can

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Speaker 3: I get to six? Is there a possibility though? I

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Speaker 3: got to probably get to four at a minimum, and

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Speaker 3: Nick just said, no, no, let's just call all the way

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Speaker 3: But I was playing around with that, and I I

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Speaker 2: And you know me, I don't love giving up a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there were a couple of scenarios where okay,

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Speaker 3: I kind of finagled the trade and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I gotta give up, but next year one, all that

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Speaker 3: it was shocking, because what you do on your computer,

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Speaker 3: that's not real life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a mock.

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Speaker 3: was fantastic. I was thinking along those lines. I just

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Speaker 2: How many times does it work out?

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Speaker 1: Where I know we're only one year in, but Stroud,

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Speaker 1: that really worked well. That could have not worked as

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Speaker 1: well as it did, and you'd be saying some other

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Speaker 1: eager to see Will Anderson Junior year two healthy out

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Speaker 1: But we're not here to talk about that right now.

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Speaker 1: We're here to talk about where the Texans stand in

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Speaker 1: the eyes of some out there, in other words, NFL

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Speaker 1: power rankings, and where they stand, Johnny, and where they belong.

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Speaker 1: It's Power Ranked Tuesday, which is not a real thing.

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Speaker 1: I just made it up. But we're going to power

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Speaker 1: rank some things today, including but not limited to actual

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Speaker 1: teams and maybe even if we have time, Texans off

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Speaker 1: field dopamine hits. I did a piece on this last Friday,

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Speaker 1: how spoiled we've been with off field dopamine hits like

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Speaker 1: the draft last year. So we'll rank some of these

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Speaker 1: coming up. Stefan Diggs another one. But Johnny, the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs are the consensus number one team in the

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Speaker 1: league heading into twenty twenty four. Where we stand right now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody can really argue with this. I

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Speaker 1: know they weren't the top seed in the AFC last year,

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Speaker 1: and if they're not this year, no one's gonna write

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Speaker 1: they've proven they can win on the road now postseason

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Speaker 1: and don't mess with them, plus their staff is a

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Speaker 1: good staff. Spagnilo is back. That's big. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: so that's big to me. You have no disagreement with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs being number one. How can you argue against that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you talk about connuity defensively obviously Spags being back,

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Speaker 3: You know, Justin Reid is still under contract. They do

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Speaker 3: lose to Jerius Snead, so we'll see how that that

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Speaker 3: not because the offense was carrying it. And even in

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Speaker 2: And I think that's that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: When there's time left, if you've left time on the clock,

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Speaker 3: have to play differently against them at all times. Now,

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Speaker 3: I could you foresee the same thing happening with them

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Speaker 3: they struggled throughout the year. They lost the Raiders on

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Speaker 3: Are they the best, the most talented team right now?

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Speaker 3: I guess you have to say yes, because they have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they know it's not about, well, turn it

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Speaker 1: on when we give it a postseason. They know that

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Speaker 1: it's hard to slug through a regular season, correct, But

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Speaker 1: they also know it's all about getting there. And that's

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Speaker 1: what the Houston Texans have to keep in mind. We

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Speaker 1: all know that we want to see them play home

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Speaker 1: playoff games, not just one, but two. So in other words,

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Speaker 1: weeks two and three of the postseason would be ideal.

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Speaker 1: But you do what you have to do. You do

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Speaker 1: what you can do here. If they could somehow at

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Speaker 1: out and win it of course. All right, So power rankings,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs number one, Lions number two, according to some or

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, it's a mix. I would say

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Speaker 1: I have no argument there. The Lions interesting, We're going

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean allions have come so far in a

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Speaker 2: Twenty two they're they're in it all the way to

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Speaker 3: Now they get eliminated before the final game against the Packers,

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Speaker 3: Three, start the season at Kansas City, knock them off.

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Speaker 3: But you could see all the different pieces that were

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Speaker 3: Then Jamior Gibbs about halfway through the year, when David

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Speaker 3: round pick, and now you're putting all those pieces together,

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Speaker 3: You're like, man, this is a pretty good football team. Now,

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Speaker 3: want that good teams players. So Jonah Jackson offensive lineman,

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Speaker 2: They release him.

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Speaker 3: So the Lions obviously aren't perfect, but they've got a

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Speaker 3: level of talent. Like I said earlier about the Texans,

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Speaker 3: getting elite talent was the key. Well, they drafted enough

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Speaker 3: So they draft elite players. Some of their late round

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Speaker 3: That game should be a prime time of fair no

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Speaker 1: Because would you rank the Texans ahead of the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: looking at this softseason and saying, Okay, the Texans got

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Speaker 1: How About they have a non injured defensive ends who

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Speaker 2: Wreak havoc right the way you want.

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Speaker 3: So the Texans have made some offseason moves that have

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Speaker 1: Listen whatever the schedule unfolds as when it's released in

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see the Ravens on opening day, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with us, but you have eight home games, nine

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see Dereck Henry wiking one. I

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we had not been good at openers.

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Speaker 3: I just thought about that from twenty seventeen going forward

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't get to one and oh yeah at all team

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Speaker 1: Last year's magical season. You start zero and two and

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Speaker 1: with more of these squads here. Would you put the

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Speaker 3: I don't think defensively it's ever been where they where

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I do I do think that, and I

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Speaker 3: you can't convince me to put the Bengals in front

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Speaker 1: Texas Another So the Bengals are not on the schedule,

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Speaker 2: Here at NRG Stadium this year.

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Speaker 1: Couple I have them behind, a couple have them ahead.

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Speaker 1: They've had a lot of departures, man a lot. You

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Speaker 1: That's it, That's it. I'm incredible. That's the cautionary tale

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to set us up for failure here,

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Speaker 2: So, I got my draft guy coming out.

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Speaker 3: In my Draft guy, I do all thirty two NFL

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Speaker 2: I have put a few of them up on the

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Speaker 3: One of them was the Bills, and so I've written

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Speaker 3: I feel like the Bills are about to make a

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Speaker 2: The Packers ended up just drafted a bunch of young guys.

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Speaker 1: Killers for the Killers.

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Speaker 3: They lost Tremaine Edwinds two years ago. In the twenty

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Speaker 3: I don't know what else they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: They have like three safeties on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's remarkable how many players they've lost. Now, because

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Speaker 3: But I think functionally they're gonna change. I think the

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Speaker 1: the Texans are a much better team, and he'd rather

439
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Speaker 1: get the Texans in the cold weather. Part of me

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00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 1: wants to be there in the cold weather because it's

441
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Speaker 1: just so freaking cool to be there when it's cold

442
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Speaker 1: and you're doing a Lembo Field game. But to be

443
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Speaker 1: there in September wouldn't better. How about this October? We

444
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, the second week of October we get peak foliage.

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Speaker 2: John, I'm cool.

446
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Speaker 1: I think about things like that. I do too, But anyway,

447
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Speaker 1: are they better or worse than the Houston Texans right now,

448
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Speaker 1: I can't make a case of them being better.

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Speaker 2: I just I just can't. Yeah, they added Josh Jacobs

450
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Speaker 2: at running back.

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Speaker 1: I think that's big for them. A lot of people

452
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Speaker 1: don't like that acquisition.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's it's not a bad it's a

454
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 3: bad move. But you're going from Aaron Jones, who's an

455
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Speaker 3: institution there. So what can they do additionally with Josh

456
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 3: Jacobs that they wouldn't do with Aaron Jones. I don't know.

457
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Speaker 3: I just don't think there's a whole lot more they

458
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: can do. I still feel like the offensive line there

459
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 3: is okay, it's not great, but the receivers are young

460
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Speaker 3: and they're getting better.

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Speaker 2: I like our guys better.

462
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Speaker 3: I think it's a more complete unit, but that group

463
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Speaker 3: one through four, any one of those four guys can

464
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Speaker 3: beat you. The tight ends are really good. The defense

465
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Speaker 3: has gotten a little bit better. They added Jeff Haffley,

466
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Speaker 3: the head coach at Boston College, came there to be

467
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Speaker 3: their defensive coordinator. I think that will give them a kickstart.

468
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Speaker 3: I still don't think that defense is all the way

469
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Speaker 3: there yet. I think they've got some good players of

470
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Speaker 3: Sean Garry's stepping up, Preston Smith on the other side,

471
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Speaker 3: Kwi Walker linebacker, so they've got they've got a few players.

472
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Speaker 3: Kenny Clark's been an institution. Here's one thing that they have,

473
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Speaker 3: though you mentioned it. They have eleven draft picks. They

474
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Speaker 3: have five in the top ninety one, five in the

475
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Speaker 3: ninety one.

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Speaker 2: Oh, now they can they can.

477
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Speaker 3: Make some They have you know, one first, two seconds,

478
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Speaker 3: two thirds, so they can they can make some magic

479
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: happen with some of that. Now they're not drafting in

480
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Speaker 3: the top three, but picking twenty five, they've got the

481
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Speaker 3: jets second round pick. Thereon Rodgers deal, they've got the

482
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Speaker 3: Bill's third round pick, so they've got some ammunition to

483
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: move up get higher level players, et cetera. But I

484
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Speaker 3: still can't make a case for them being better than

485
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Speaker 3: the Texans. I can't close Yes, not over them.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm not prone to do this really ever,

487
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Speaker 1: but I am going to defend the cause of the

488
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars and the Indianapolis Colts. Where are they in

489
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Speaker 1: people's power rankings? They're zero, respect, I think because they

490
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Speaker 1: just don't get the clickbait effect that some of these

491
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Speaker 1: other teams do. I've seen some power rankings list Dallas

492
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Speaker 1: way low just to troll the Cowboys and create a buzz.

493
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Speaker 1: I believe, and maybe I really believe that because they've

494
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Speaker 1: had quote a bad off season and they haven't been

495
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Speaker 1: able to do much cap space and all that. But

496
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Speaker 1: with the Jags and the Colts, I think you got

497
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Speaker 1: to give them a little bit of a better look

498
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Speaker 1: here some of these power ranking tabulators, if you will,

499
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Speaker 1: because the Jags still have a pretty solid team. They

500
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Speaker 1: can still get a lot of people. They were nine

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Speaker 1: and eight. I know it was a disaster at the

502
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Speaker 1: end of the year for them, and the Colts look

503
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Speaker 1: very close to earning a playoff berth maybe winning the division.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think both those teams. I

505
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Speaker 3: think this AFC South is going to be a battle.

506
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't eve think the tides are going

507
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Speaker 3: to be much better. Again, you know, we've talked about

508
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 3: will have you know enough that he kind of drives

509
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Speaker 3: all of that. But I don't see the overall talent

510
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Speaker 3: in Tennessee to be able to to get into the mix.

511
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Speaker 3: But then again, who the heck thought we were going

512
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Speaker 3: to be in a mix? You know, last year. But

513
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Speaker 3: we got there, and then we made additions on top

514
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Speaker 3: of that. The Jags, I feel like, made some nice additions.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that the

516
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Speaker 3: additions they made were better than Texas.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: Now, they went out and got Eric Armstead and when

519
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 3: I got gave Davis at two key positions. They got

520
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Speaker 3: Darnell Savage from the Packers. The Packers wanted to move

521
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Speaker 3: on from Savage.

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Speaker 2: For a while.

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Speaker 3: So, okay, they lost Ridley. They lost Ridley and it's

524
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: a good football team. That football team was eight and three.

525
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: It went one in five down the stretch, one in five.

526
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Speaker 3: So what happened down the stretch? What are the what

527
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Speaker 3: are the reasons, not the excuses, what are the reasons

528
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Speaker 3: that team faded down to stretch?

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Speaker 1: Did you like the video I sent you it, Andrew?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 1: That was good. And it was Trevor Lawrence. And it's

532
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Speaker 1: the one with Trevor Lawrence and CJ. And see the

533
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Speaker 1: two different situations where Lawrence is in the tunnel with

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Speaker 1: the team saying, all right, let's go guys, let's let

535
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Speaker 1: me ask you a question, and CJ's like, come on,

536
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Speaker 1: when we when we played Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you fear Trevor Lawrence?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't think so. I fear more than Lawrence. Yes,

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00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: be honest, this is Vandermere meter of fear. I listened

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Speaker 1: to my feelings. This is a good radio segment. A

541
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Speaker 1: good radio segment. Interfear meter is a strong indicator of

542
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: the effectiveness of the opponent. Derrick Henry massive fear slash

543
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: respect for him. And I know the last two games

544
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: have gone incredibly well. It's almost like the one up

545
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: there almost undid all the wrongs that occurred against him

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Speaker 1: in previous years. I still fear him though, when he

547
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: lines up with Lamar Jackson in the backfield, it's weak two.

548
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: You're facing the Ravens and a nooner here at NRG Stadium.

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00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm ready for that one man. That is going to

550
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Speaker 1: be awesome. But I do fear Derek Henry still.

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Speaker 2: We exactly.

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry t y Hill was always a guy you

553
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Speaker 3: feared no matter what, didn't matter whether you're playing him.

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Speaker 1: Here there, Mahomes Manning Brady.

555
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Speaker 3: And yeah, there's so many you could put in that

556
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Speaker 3: kind of fear factor. And I mean in twenty twenty two,

557
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: it was fearing all those interior defensive lines.

558
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Speaker 1: Darren sprolls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Darren's so the quick sprolls. Aside, the other night,

560
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: my son and I watched the show The League. Now

561
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: it's long been over, but the League was fantastic. JJ

562
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: sh up there on there a few times. So there

563
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: is an episode where one of the wives doesn't like

564
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: short players, and so darren Sproles gets involved, and so

565
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Speaker 3: Jack's watching it, hut, and so I'm telling him, like Jack,

566
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 3: that guy right there. Every game that we were ever

567
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: in and that guy was on the opposite sideline, it

568
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Speaker 3: scared the fool out of us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes really like he's like third down skirt

570
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Speaker 2: lot of us.

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Speaker 3: Even twenty eighteen, we go to Philly, he's on his

572
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Speaker 3: last legs in his career, and he still killed us with.

573
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Speaker 2: All those routes up the sideline.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think the Jaguars and Colts they need

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Speaker 3: to be in consideration top fourteen in the league. Yeah,

576
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Speaker 3: probably top fourteen to sixteen, not in the bottom half.

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Speaker 3: I mean looking at the rankings last year going into

578
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Speaker 3: the season, the Colts, the Texans, and the Titans got.

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Speaker 3: In fact, the Titans got more love than the Colts

580
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Speaker 3: and the Texans did. So, Yeah, I don't know that

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Speaker 3: I would say that I fear either one of those

582
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Speaker 3: teams right now. Until I see Anthony Richardson become Anthony Richardson,

583
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Speaker 3: I won't that team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, on Trevor Lawrence, I respect him

587
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Speaker 1: and I know he beat the Texans here relatively late

588
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: in the season last year, very late in the season.

589
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: He's a very good quarterback. I don't take that away

590
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: from him. I just don't think he's one of these

591
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Speaker 1: elite guys. All right, coming up, the dopamine power ranking,

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Speaker 1: dopamine off field hits from the last fourteen to fifteen months.

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Speaker 2: What's the top where do they rank?

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Speaker 1: And also we'll get into some other beyond the blue

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Speaker 1: lot stuff here. It's Texans Radio, keep it and rolling

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Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio. Mark Vandermin and John Harris with you,

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Speaker 1: all right, Johnny. The off field dopamine hit meter or

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Speaker 1: power rankings. Yes, So in the last let's just go

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Speaker 1: from late January of twenty twenty three to now is

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Speaker 1: the number one off field dopamine hit Demico Ryan's getting hired.

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Speaker 1: Here are the contenders that draft night, ooh, NFL honors,

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Speaker 1: will in CJ Rookies of the Year, Diggs acquisition, and Andre

603
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: Johnson Hall of Fame announcement. I think I got them all.

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Speaker 2: I mean on the field, no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, off field, off field, it's got to be off field.

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00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: On the field.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you gotta. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think every.

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Speaker 1: Significant move is Tomko Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the biggest

610
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Speaker 1: that might have been the biggest dopamine hit.

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Speaker 5: Two.

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00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: Just knowing when I found out.

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Speaker 1: That it was a lock that Demiko was coming here,

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Speaker 1: that the skies opened up, the sun came out. Well,

615
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: usually when you say the skies open, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: it's gonna rain. But whatever, there was an eclipse, whatever, beautiful.

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Speaker 3: You and I had discussions in this studio on air

618
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: and off air, and we will talk about, well, okay,

619
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Speaker 3: we both want to Miko, but put him this side

620
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: because that's not happening. We just had convinced ourselves it

621
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna happen, but man, it.

622
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: Really would be cool.

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Speaker 1: Felt like a pipe tree. It just felt like a

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Speaker 1: pipe tree.

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00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: And and so it just felt like may so we obviously

626
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: that one, that one just starts everything. Yeah, the one

627
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: to me that was just even the draft night one.

628
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Daniel Jeremiah had put it out there that

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Speaker 3: the Texans could drafted two and three in his final

630
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: mock draft, and I had been playing around, like I

631
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: said earlier, with the mock draft scene, if we get

632
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: two of these elite players. So albeit it happening draft night,

633
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: all happening live, there's the big dopamine hit. With that,

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00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 3: I thought there was a chance that potentially something like

635
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: that could happen. The dig straight never saw it coming, Oh, absolutely,

636
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: never never.

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Speaker 2: Saw it coming.

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00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: I went into your office before that and we were

639
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: talking about another wide receiver. Diggs never came into conversation. Yeah,

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00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: never came into conversation.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised.

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00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: So when that happened, I was completely shocked. And I've

643
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: said this a million times in this league. Last this

644
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: will be my eleventh year coming up. I've never shocked.

645
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: That shocked me.

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Speaker 1: The other one is Andre Johnson getting into Canton. Of course,

647
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: now that's not really to current team status, but that

648
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: is current franchise status. That a year where you get

649
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: all this wonderful stuff happening, you get your first player level.

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Speaker 2: Of coolness that goes to number one, just a.

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Speaker 3: Level because we kind of I don't want to say

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Speaker 3: it's one of those things where we kind of saw

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Speaker 3: it coming, but I kind of felt like, all right,

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna happen. So as a you know,

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Speaker 3: the level of coolness of it, I think it's number

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Speaker 3: one to get a text in it too. The Hall

657
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: of Fame where the youngest franchise. He's the first one

658
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: to go in. He's Andre Johnson. I mean everything that

659
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: goes with Andrea and just what an ambassador of this

660
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: team he has been. I just think level of coolness

661
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: that goes to number one. But we kind of saw

662
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: that coming to me, the the the adrenaline boost in

663
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: something that you never saw happening, like the Digs trade

664
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Speaker 3: that was.

665
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Speaker 2: I remember I'd been up you know this. I was upstairs.

666
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: You and I were talking. Yeah, talked for a while.

667
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: Came back downstairs to the studio to kind of work

668
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: on some things down here. I refresh Twitter and I

669
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: see it and I and there's nobody down.

670
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: Here most times. And it was any the end of

671
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Speaker 2: the rodeo.

672
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: So our guys next door, Clay Grant hadn't moved back

673
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: in our football ops guys had not moved back in yet,

674
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: so literally is me down here?

675
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Speaker 2: And I said, I.

676
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: Literally screamed out, holy bleep, and then I texted you

677
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Speaker 3: and I just wrote, digs yeah, and I just was like,

678
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Speaker 3: I saw this.

679
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That was a good one. So that was

680
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: a good one that I think draft night, because all right,

681
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: drafting Strad was one thing, and there were murmurs, rumors

682
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: heading over to the party, but that was really late

683
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Speaker 1: to not know, to have the number two pick in

684
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Speaker 1: the draft and not know, and I wasn't convinced that

685
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: that was going to happen until it happened. I agree.

686
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, yeah, people are talking about Strad, but

687
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: they'll still draft Will Anderson junior. And anybody who says

688
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: differently that they were sure, come on, you're sure you

689
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: were sure they were going to do it because they

690
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: can revision is exactly the total revision. And they got

691
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: stra I thought, oh gosh, we got a quarterback. That's awesome.

692
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Speaker 1: And then I kind of calmed down, not really calmed down,

693
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: but my head wasn't on a swivel anymore because the

694
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: number three pick is We're still reacting to Stroud, right,

695
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden Hensley's like, I got something.

696
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: We're doing our show and that's how it works. Robert

697
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: puts up his hand. I got a story.

698
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: I got and he had a little smile, and that's

699
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: when Jeremiah's mock and my thought about two lead players

700
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: really popped.

701
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: Into my mind, and I was like, we're gonna do this.

702
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: We're going to do it. And the reaction it's on

703
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: video of you and Andre I shot that and it

704
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: blew up, It went viral, and I think that that

705
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: was the biggest one for me because of the reaction

706
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: of you guys.

707
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: I was not expecting it.

708
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: Look, I know they've moved up before, they moved up

709
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: to take Watson in twenty seventeen, but this is so different.

710
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: You're moving up to number three and you did it,

711
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: and you got will Anderson junior anyway, and it was

712
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: so good. And to have that book ended with NFL

713
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: honors and both guys winning Rookie of the Year, I mean,

714
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: you can't do better than that.

715
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Speaker 3: As I was watching and all as all that is unfolding,

716
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: and we probably said it during the draft, and I

717
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: think one of one of my pieces of excitement was

718
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: going back to that thought of you got two of

719
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: the four elite players in this draft, and you're gonna

720
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: look back one night and think this is when it

721
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: all really got kickstarted. Now, obviously there were things that

722
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: happened before hiring Nick and then bringing in to Miko.

723
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Hey, you signed Dalton Schultz, Devn. You did a lot

724
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: of players, You did a lot.

725
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: Of those things that were like, man, look, this roster

726
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: is kind of changing. But when we look back, hopefully

727
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: you know, ten to twelve years from now, and those

728
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: guys have been in the league for a decade plus and.

729
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: You know we've got it super hopefully a Super.

730
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: Bowl or two under our belt, we can look back

731
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: and go that draft night, that was the night that

732
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: the core of this team was built with those two

733
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: picks because of who those guys are. And if you remember,

734
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: you know, we make the picks two and three. I mean,

735
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: the rest of the draft is just, Man, did you

736
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: like there was such this reverberation throughout the draft world?

737
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Did you see the Texans did? And obviously there was

738
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: you know, a decent number, decent amount of it was negative,

739
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: Like did you see what they gave up? They gave

740
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: up a number three pick next year? Meanwhile, We're like, hey,

741
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: wait a second, you just brought in Will Anderson Junior.

742
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: Things are gonna change. CJ.

743
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: Shroud is gonna help change this. That this pick is

744
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: not gonna be a top three pick. This is not

745
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: gonna be up there. Now we start, oh too. I

746
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 3: started having my doubts. But we knew this team had something.

747
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: Were they gonna get to ten and seven get to

748
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: the playff. Now I didn't see that quite so, but

749
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: it was not gonna be a number three pick, and

750
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: so it was gonna end up panning out. But there

751
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: was such a buzz around those two that you.

752
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Just thought, okay.

753
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: But the next day they come here and there is

754
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: a press conference in the in the workroom, and those

755
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: two meet the media for the first time, and you

756
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: listen to both of them speak, and I remember I

757
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: was in the back of the room and I'm listening

758
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: and it's those two answering questions and they're funny and

759
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: they have really smart answers, and you just listen both

760
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: of them, and I just remember walking out, They're going, nice,

761
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: we got it right, we got it right there. These

762
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: guys might fail, but they're not. It's gonna be for

763
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: some weird reason, like, you know, one guy is intericated.

764
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: These guys are going to succeed, and because they're going

765
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: to succeed, everybody else is going to follow them and

766
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: succeed eventually.

767
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Speaker 1: And all they did was help you go from three

768
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Speaker 1: wins to ten wins and a playoff victory on top

769
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Speaker 1: of that. That's right, my god.

770
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Speaker 3: And what it's done is it's having us ask the question, Okay,

771
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: other than the Chiefs and the Niners and maybe the Ravens,

772
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: I know, what teams are the Texas better that?

773
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: Well?

774
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: I mean, we asked that question in twenty one or

775
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Speaker 2: twenty two and.

776
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: We're like, I don't know, I don't know, Maybe three

777
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 3: or four teams are better.

778
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: Than And it's all about on paper, and of course, and.

779
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: That's the big team. We said a few times on paper.

780
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: Excited about what's on paper?

781
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: Coach, If you're listening, we know it's all about week one.

782
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: We're just talking here.

783
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 5: This is radio.

784
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Speaker 1: We talked all right. Coming up. We had a great

785
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: conversation with Jimmy Ward a few weeks ago. We ran

786
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: that on a Friday night. So let's get a little

787
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: best of that because I think a lot of people

788
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: missed it. And I want to play it, and it's

789
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: coming up next here on Texans All Access.

790
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Speaker 2: As I promised before the break.

791
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Speaker 1: This is an interview that we ran a few weeks

792
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: ago on a Friday night and a lot of people

793
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: missed the Friday night show for whatever reason. You're doing

794
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: Friday night things. I get it, but I thought this

795
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: was worth a reair, the best of a conversation we

796
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: had with Texans safety Jimmy Ward. There is a short

797
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: list of candidates that I would name for players who

798
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: should have their own radio show. Jimmy Ward is on

799
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: that list. My gosh, he's good. So let's tap into

800
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Speaker 1: that conversation a few weeks ago with Texan safety Jimmy Ward.

801
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: It's good Jimmy.

802
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 5: Here.

803
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: You are salty veteran. But after your first year with

804
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: the Texans going into year two, what are your feelings

805
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: thoughts off season? How's it all going?

806
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: Off season is going great? Just you know, been working

807
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: out and watching the ESPN and seeing all the you know,

808
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: the amazing moves that we're making right now for your agency,

809
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: you know, getting me excited, you know rated from ot as,

810
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: you know the you know, play play with your new team,

811
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: play with my new teammates and see some familiar faces.

812
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: And speaking of familiar faces, Asease, Yeah, I get to

813
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: play with him again. So that's gonna be very interesting.

814
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So put on your general manager hat and give

815
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: us a scouting reporter of disease. Now we saw twice

816
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: last year. We know he could ball. But you've been

817
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: around him, you know him. What can you tell us

818
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: about his ease?

819
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 5: Uh?

820
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: He loves football, he cares about football a lot, and

821
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: he's he's real angry. He's real, real angry. He plays

822
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: with a chip on the shoulder.

823
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Speaker 5: Uh. I just Mico really. Uh. He coached him.

824
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: He coached him from from a young pup all the

825
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: way until he was older, because Miko was his position

826
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: coach and he got the best out of him.

827
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that.

828
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 4: And I know in front of Asease it was Drake

829
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: green Law and Fred Warner. But anytime he had his opportunity,

830
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 4: as he's had his opportunity, he went in and he

831
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 4: did what he needed to do. And that's the reason

832
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: why he ended up getting that starting job for Tennessee Titans.

833
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: And he went over there bald and Migo was I

834
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: think Migo was trying to get him that year before,

835
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: and I don't know what happened with him, Nick and

836
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: Miko whatever, they couldn't get the deal done. So he

837
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: still had that chip on his shoulder. So he left

838
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 4: that chip on the shoulder when he played against US.

839
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: That's why he was a tackling machine. And next thing

840
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Speaker 4: you know, we're signing disease.

841
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: That's awesome, Jimmy Ward with us, all right, More general

842
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: manager scouting reports stuff on Daniel Hunter.

843
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 4: Who was also acquired Danille Hunter. I watched a little

844
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: bit of his game. Feel like he feels the hole.

845
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: You know, that's exactly what we needed. Obviously, he's been

846
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: seeing how free agents have been going for us. Yeah,

847
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: and I'm interested to play with him. I haven't watched

848
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 4: too much FAM on it, but I heard good things

849
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: about him, like around other players around my piers, around

850
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 4: the lead.

851
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 5: So I really think it was a great pickup, Jimmy.

852
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: From a safety's perspective in the NFL, and you've been

853
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: around for a little bit, so you know some stuff

854
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: when you play behind a pass rush that when you

855
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: add dan Neil Hunter to Will Anderson, Penniko Autry coming

856
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: in when you're playing as a safety behind that pass rush.

857
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: Are you taking a few more calculated risks.

858
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: Because you know those guys are getting to the quarterback,

859
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: or you trying to play it as straight up as possible.

860
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: Well, in this type of defense, all you got to

861
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: do is just do your job. But the crazy thing

862
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 4: is like eventually the quarterbacks either gonna get tired or

863
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: getting hit, or it's just gonna, you know, get hit.

864
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: So that's when sometimes the balls just go crazy and

865
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: somebody gonna came peak. Whether it's the second level, whether

866
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: that's the cornerbacks, or whether that's the safety.

867
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 5: It just depends on just depends on the play call.

868
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: But with that rush right now that we got and

869
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: then not only there are the rush plays the past,

870
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: but you know they're they're they're two sided. You know,

871
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: they're gonna play the run first, you know. So that's

872
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: what I'm very you know, happy about just being able

873
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 4: like to have defensive linemen defensive ends to play the

874
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 4: run first in the past.

875
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: All right, So you were part of teams in San

876
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: Francisco that would make the playoffs have some success.

877
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 5: And get back and do it again.

878
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: What's the key to getting back there, to getting back

879
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: to the big stage. The divisional round. I know you

880
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: want to go beyond that, but it's hard to even

881
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: get there. So for a team, a pretty young team

882
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: that got there last year, what do these guys need

883
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: to remember? Everybody needs to remember to get back and beyond.

884
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 4: Just just remember that we you know, we didn't win

885
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's really it, Like we didn't

886
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: do anything. And even if we did win this the Bowl,

887
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: it's a new year. So everything that you did in

888
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 4: the previous year, it doesn't matter, you know why, because

889
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: everybody's gonna forget that all that happened last season.

890
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 5: So now is about what you did this season.

891
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: Okay, everybody got a clean slate, no matter if you

892
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 4: had a bad season, no matter if you had a

893
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: good season, no matter if he was unhealthy, and matter

894
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: if you're healthy. Okay, you get to do it again.

895
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: So this time, that's what people gonna remember. People gonna

896
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 4: remember the last game we played. So what you're gonna do?

897
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 4: Jimmy and I talked to you after the Jacksonville game.

898
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: I asked for you as a player of the game.

899
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: You kind of look at me like why, and I said,

900
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: because this defense plays different when you're in it.

901
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: This defense seems to play.

902
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: Whether it's your edge, whether it's your fearlessness, whatever it is,

903
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: this defense sort of channels it with the way that

904
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: you played. And it was like Week three against Jacksonville.

905
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: You could see it on the field with you flying around.

906
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: Did you sense and do you sense how valuable that

907
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 3: is just that alone to this defense?

908
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I didn't. I didn't realize it because it

909
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 4: was just me being me and just me being around

910
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: like uh, San Francisco where I played at a year before,

911
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 4: and I just remember like pregame work during the pregame season,

912
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: it was just we I know, when the dbs came

913
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: out with the fullbacks, you know, somebody said something. It

914
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: used to be Juice Juice to say something, the fullback

915
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: from San France, and then sometimes it used to be

916
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: a tight end and say something. Then we go back

917
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: out there and then sometimes it's Kiddle that say something,

918
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: it's Fred that say something. But it's so many multiple

919
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: guys that's just talking and just you know, saying something.

920
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 4: Sometimes you might somebody else might may need that information

921
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: that you're that you're that you're talking about, that you're

922
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: giving and it might pick another guy up.

923
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 5: No, I was never a big robro guy at all.

924
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: And then it just when I got I just start

925
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: started to develop as I got older. But when I

926
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: got here and I saw like how quiet everything was,

927
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, this is not this is

928
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 4: not gonna work.

929
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 5: We need music and we need some guys to talk.

930
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: And I feel like I just felt like in my heart,

931
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: I feel like I needed to step up, and I

932
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 4: feel like, Okay, I got to talk. And when I

933
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 4: did it, and I sat back down in my locker

934
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 4: and Shack never forget Shack Mason was like, hey manh yeah,

935
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to start doing that every game. I

936
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, Lee. I was like, hey man, it's

937
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: like it's like we're gonna have some people. So now

938
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: I was telling him, man, we got to get some

939
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: more people to talk. You know, it's cool to hear

940
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: somebody else, hear somebody else's voice. So I was trying.

941
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 4: I've been trying to get Kristin to do it. I

942
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: was trying to get Petrie to do I was trying

943
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: to get Steve to do it, just you know, kind

944
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: of nudge him, you know, push him a little bit, like, man,

945
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: just say something.

946
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: You can say anything like guy's gonna live here. Listen.

947
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 5: You can keep it short, you can keep it sweet,

948
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter.

949
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: But when it's time to break it down to the team,

950
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: like in front of the team right before the game,

951
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: it's not it's not many guys that want to do

952
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 4: that or like at like obviously you don't want to lose,

953
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: but you know, sometimes you gotta be that guy to

954
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 4: break it down, you know, after loss. And that's that's

955
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 4: never it's never good. Sometimes you can't. You don't know

956
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: what you don't know what to say. You don't know

957
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: what to say to a team, you know, to pick

958
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 4: them up. But I guess, you know, I play so

959
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: much ball. It's like, hey man, this is not the

960
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: last game of the season. Uh, we still got a

961
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: lot of football left. And man, yes, just you know,

962
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: get back to the playbook, go practice hard, and just

963
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: win the next one.

964
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward with us after was it the Denver or

965
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: the Cardinals game? When you got on the microphone with

966
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: Drew's it was Denver and you said, stand up, h town,

967
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: we did this for you. It was great. It was

968
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: a very memorable post game live in the stadium interview.

969
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: And uh, and I remember that moment, and I think, well,

970
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: how is it for you, h town the whole spirit

971
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: of the city and seeing everybody respond to what the

972
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Texans are doing, and how.

973
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 5: Do you like it here?

974
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: Basically?

975
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 5: Oh, I love it.

976
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 4: If you get back and on what you was saying,

977
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: I remember I said that, and you know what else

978
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: I said, and I was like, and then I ended

979
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 4: up I ended up getting hurt again.

980
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 5: So I was like, and.

981
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 4: I was like, and each week it was like, Oh,

982
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 4: Houston's not in the playoffs. Houston is in the playoffs.

983
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 4: He's in the playoffs. And I remember saying after I

984
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 4: said it, I said, We're gonna go to the playoffs.

985
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 4: And I went home and I was like, I hope

986
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: we need to go to the playoffs because somebody, you know,

987
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: people keep receipts. So I didn't want to be that

988
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: guy on the meaning. But nah, but I love town.

989
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: Everything's better in Texas. It's better. Is it bigger? I

990
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: feel like I feel like it's both. I definitely love

991
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: the city. I love the culture, I love the food,

992
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: I love the people. You know, it's it's it's the South.

993
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 4: And I just experienced the rodeo the other day and

994
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: it was amazing.

995
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 5: I never I never been to it.

996
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: So did you watch the actual events or just the concert?

997
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 5: No? Both?

998
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: Like it was amazing. Like my best part was when

999
00:44:53,480 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: the kiddos got yeah little k Yeah, that was hilarious.

1000
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 5: Man.

1001
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, they even got events for kids

1002
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: out here. I was like, man, that's pretty cool.

1003
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very cool. Jim hang out to an animal

1004
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 5: like that.

1005
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty tough.

1006
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: Try. I gotta hang on to their exactly.

1007
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: Jimmy's you go into what's this gonna be for you?

1008
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: You were twenty fourteen, so this is year eleven. Yes, sir,

1009
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: you're going into a condition. You're going to OTAs you

1010
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: would think somebody's been around the league eleven years.

1011
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 5: You're like, I gotta get through that.

1012
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: I gotta get through this. But you can also use

1013
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: that period to get better.

1014
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: How do you kind of look at OTA's in the offseason,

1015
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 5: but we just had it.

1016
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: I look at it to get better. I look at

1017
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: it to bill chemistry with the team. Uh, just to

1018
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: be around the guys, you know, that's what it's all about,

1019
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: you know, get used to each other and just you know, uh,

1020
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 4: I just just I know the playbook obviously, but sometimes

1021
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: you gotta, you know, get some dirt off your shoulder, oh,

1022
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: you know, knock the rust off. So and it's fun,

1023
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: it's football, it's working out. It keeps me in shape,

1024
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: keeps me on.

1025
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: There's Jimmy Ward on Texans Radio from a few weeks ago.

1026
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: We aired that on a Friday night, but a lot

1027
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: of people missed it, so I thought I'd re air

1028
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: the best of that interview. Now, few things to look

1029
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: out for here. We're gonna have Greg Grissom on the

1030
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: show this week. I'm gonna set these times on x

1031
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: formerly known as Twitter. Do I still have to say that?

1032
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: Also coming up, Andy Kalu and Andre Johnson sit down

1033
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: and you are not going to want to miss that.

1034
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: We shot that today. It is awesome. So get ready

1035
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: for a big week finish here with Wednesday, Thursday Friday

1036
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: shows of Texans All Access and the Draft two weeks

1037
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: from Thursday. So fired up and so happy that you

1038
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: could take in the show tonight. Have a great evening.

1039
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Area forty five coming up. Don't miss it. Go Texans.