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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now, and man, we are in the Thanksgiving holiday

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Speaker 2: week already, signed is flying. A lot of us will

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Speaker 2: be flying. Apparently the biggest travel season ever ever is anticipated,

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Speaker 2: like thirty million people are going to be moving about

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Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving this year. So we're talking to you more

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Speaker 2: about that. I'm out after today, so you've got Clay

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Speaker 2: for a couple of days, getting you prepared for Turkey Day.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be talking to you about the deliciousness

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Speaker 2: of cranberry sauce. He will probably be defending some of

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Speaker 2: the more idiosyncratic Thanksgiving sides of the South, including what

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Speaker 2: is it the green bean casserole that you all like

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Speaker 2: so much? That's always the one that I see.

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Speaker 1: I made it clear that I'm very anti green bean,

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Speaker 1: So that's the one food that I just I think

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Speaker 1: is always awful no matter where are a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: It seems I'm just gonna say, whenever they put out

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Speaker 2: that chart, there are a lot of Tennesseeans disagree with you.

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Speaker 2: In the Northeast, we've uh well, I live in Florida now,

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Speaker 2: but formerly fairly love rolls. That's the big thing. We're

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Speaker 2: big Norman people in the midding.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the biscuit and roll is maybe

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Speaker 1: the greatest thing the South is given to America. So

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Speaker 1: I'm even disputing what what the guidelines are there, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm even gonna say this. We're about to get

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Speaker 2: into all the news by the way, just to be clear,

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Speaker 2: But I just Thanksgiving. Yeah, But because it's my last

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Speaker 2: day before thanks Kevin, I'm already thinking about the Thanksgiving feast.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of when the cranberry sauce maybe

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Speaker 2: it's accidental, maybe it's not, and you mix it a

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Speaker 2: little bit with the gravy and you get this kind

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Speaker 2: of salty swee. I don't know. It sounds weird, but

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Speaker 2: it works on the plate. I'm just telling you, all right,

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Speaker 2: it is a birthday today, you know. I have my

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Speaker 2: brother Mason's birthday coming up, and have it coming up

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Speaker 2: in a few days, have my little brother's birthday over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. So happy birthday to Keats and a Mason

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Speaker 2: coming up. But there's a birthday that a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are focused on, right now, Clay, because you know,

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Speaker 2: it sort of goes right to the center of the

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Speaker 2: biggest political discussion of the country right now. A lot

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Speaker 2: of poll numbers out, a lot of discussion underway. Everyone

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Speaker 2: keeps asking me, I've never had so many people way

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Speaker 2: in any of our steake bets. I'm just gonna let

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Speaker 2: you know, I get people who just like, oh man,

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Speaker 2: play is right, and they're like, oh man, you got

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Speaker 2: to take him to the cleaners when he has to

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Speaker 2: buy you a stake both sides of will Biden be Biden,

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Speaker 2: Kamala be the nominee or will there be something else

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Speaker 2: going on with Democrats? Today is Joe Biden's birthday. Happy birthday,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden eighty one years old, everybody, he is eighty one,

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Speaker 2: and as it stands right now, he'll be running for

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Speaker 2: his second term as president of the United States. We've

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Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about. Also on the primary side,

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Speaker 2: Trump's numbers, all the rest of it. But you know,

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Speaker 2: CNN had this headline up Biden's birthday prompts debate about

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Speaker 2: age and wisdom of America's oldest president. And this comes

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Speaker 2: at a time there's a lot of these editorials. Clay

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Speaker 2: and here's I got a couple of broad thoughts. I

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Speaker 2: want to share this with you, and then I know

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Speaker 2: you got some data to break down for us. I

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Speaker 2: think that Democrats have realized finally, like those who thought

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Speaker 2: maybe there was something else that was going to happen,

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Speaker 2: the window is now closed for there to be normal

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Speaker 2: process to replace Joe Biden. That is basically gone now.

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Speaker 2: The only things that could happen would be break the

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Speaker 2: glass plants because they don't have time to get a

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Speaker 2: primary done. They don't Democrats don't have time to do

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Speaker 2: a normal process of replacement and running an election and

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Speaker 2: all the rest of it. They can't get on the

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Speaker 2: state ballots. With that in mind, Clay, the Trump numbers

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Speaker 2: right now, what do you make of it versus Biden?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so here is the So my big

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Speaker 2: analysis here as we sit eleven months out is the

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Speaker 2: story of Joe Biden has shifted from he's an empty

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Speaker 2: vessel who's a no Trump candidate, which is effectively what

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Speaker 2: they ran in twenty twenty in the basement campaign.

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Speaker 1: But they got the benefit of COVID and I think

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Speaker 1: in the same way that Jimmy Carter and Rest in peace,

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Speaker 1: Rosalind Carter, who died over the weekend at ninety six

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Speaker 1: years old. Whatever you think of Jimmy and Jimmy Carter's presidency,

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Speaker 1: he and Rosalind had one of the great marriages in

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Speaker 1: all of American political history. It does seem quite clear.

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Speaker 1: And I read Buck that they still live in the

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Speaker 1: same house in Plains, Georgia that they built in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty one. Jimmy Carter might be the only former president

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Speaker 1: United States, and anybody out there listening's life basically, but

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Speaker 1: in the same way that Jimmy Carter was an accidental

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Speaker 1: president in the aftermath of Watergate, I think COVID made

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden an accidental president. And the data, as you

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Speaker 1: reference in that CNN poll, other than Trump, who obviously

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Speaker 1: the polls hated in twenty twenty, no incumbent president in

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Speaker 1: any of our lives has been in as rough as

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Speaker 1: shape as Joe Biden is in right now. And here

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Speaker 1: is the Harvard Harris pole that just came out, that

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Speaker 1: is coming out on Joe Biden's eighty first birthday, Buck,

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Speaker 1: and this is now showing the biggest lead that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has ever had that.

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Speaker 2: I remember in a national poll.

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Speaker 1: Trump is up six in the poll that just came

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Speaker 1: out today, fifty three to forty seven. If RFK Junior

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Speaker 1: if RFK Junior, Cornell West and Jill Stein, who is

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Speaker 1: the Green Party candidate, is added, Trump is up nine.

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Speaker 1: These are uh, oh, break the glass moments for the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party, I think, buck and that's why I believe

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Speaker 1: that increasingly there is going there. It seems to me

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Speaker 1: as we move through this holiday season, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are going to be sitting around over Thanksgiving, over Christmas,

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Speaker 1: and then over New Years. I think by the time

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Speaker 1: we come back post New Years, presuming that these numbers

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Speaker 1: there's going to be an acknowledgment that Democrats have to

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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get Joe Biden off the ticket.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that it would be Biden announcing he's

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Speaker 1: not running, and everybody gets on and they have a

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Speaker 1: real primary debate over who the candidate should be. We've

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Speaker 1: missed that deadline. You think that they're just going to

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Speaker 1: stick with Joe Biden. I think to break the glass

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Speaker 1: moment is here. Things are so bad that they're not

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Speaker 1: going to trot him out, and I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to come up with a candidate Michelle Obama is my

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Speaker 1: fear at the Democrat National Convention this summer.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here. It's funny because this

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Speaker 2: is one where now I just see people, you know,

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Speaker 2: I play some tennis to the friend this week, and

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Speaker 2: this is the thing that everyone asked. This is the

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Speaker 2: number one question, much more so than anything about the

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Speaker 2: primary and Trump and Desantists and all the rest. People say,

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Speaker 2: is it going to be Biden? You know, I have

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Speaker 2: one brother, for example, who thinks it will be Biden,

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Speaker 2: another who thinks it definitely won't be Biden. So I

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Speaker 2: sit here and I'm like, Okay, this is this is

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Speaker 2: now the center of political gravity in the country, and

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Speaker 2: this is what everyone's thinking about it. Let me let

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Speaker 2: me give you first off, Ron DeSantis over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Now you could obviously he's got his own feelings on

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Speaker 2: this because he wants to be president and he wants

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Speaker 2: to be the nominee for the Republicans. This has cut three.

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Speaker 2: Here's the here's a case that he is you know,

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Speaker 2: Let's be a little contrarion here for a second. Let's

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Speaker 2: open up the possibility that there might be something we're

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Speaker 2: not seeing. This is what Governor Santis of Florida says,

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Speaker 2: Play three.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be running unless I thought that that the

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Speaker 3: Democrats would beat Trump if he were the nominee. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're going very easy on him right now. I mean

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Speaker 3: they're they're not saying much the minute. If he were

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Speaker 3: to be the nominee. I mean, you're gonna see U

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Speaker 3: scorched earth. You're going to see all this stuff brought

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Speaker 3: up from from the past, and the whole election will

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Speaker 3: end up being a referendum on Donald Trump and Biden

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Speaker 3: will be to hang out in the basement, and I

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Speaker 3: think he'll be able to get away with it. Again, Look,

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Speaker 3: the presidency is not a job for somebody that's pushing

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Speaker 3: eighty years old. I just think that that's something that

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Speaker 3: has been shown with Joe Biden. Father time is undefeated.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is not exempt from any of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, can we can we just put out he's

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Speaker 2: basically saying, yeah, Biden's too old. But to a lot

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Speaker 2: of voters, not Trump people, obviously, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: voters in the middle, they're going to say, well, basically,

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Speaker 2: Trump is, you know, as old, we can make the case,

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Speaker 2: and we do that, He's much more with it and

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Speaker 2: all the rest of it. But Clay, I look at

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two as a warning sign where everything look

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Speaker 2: like Democrats they're going to get crushed. They're so you know,

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Speaker 2: they're the polls look terrible for them. Inflation is the

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Speaker 2: worst it's been in forty years. Twenty twenty two is

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Speaker 2: really disappointing. Twenty twenty three off your election pretty disappointing.

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Speaker 2: Even though we are where we are with Buiden the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: are we being lulled into false confidence on twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I've said, and I will believe that if Ron DeSantis,

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Speaker 1: Nikki Hayley, vive ak Ramaswami, or Donald Trump or the

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Speaker 1: nominee running against Joe Biden, I think all four of

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Speaker 1: those guys would win. I have had thoughts that DeSantis

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Speaker 1: shared there about Donald Trump's electability over this past year,

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Speaker 1: certainly in the wake of twenty twenty two. But here's

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Speaker 1: where I think things have changed. Biden is going to

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Speaker 1: to hide Joe Biden, because again, think about twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: it's almost always a referendum on the incumbent. Now they'll

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Speaker 1: try to make twenty twenty four a referendum on Trump,

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Speaker 1: but boss.

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Speaker 2: With the legal system erectively as the primary weapon.

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Speaker 1: Which is, by the way, why I also don't believe

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Speaker 1: that they're going easy on Trump. Only in a Trump

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Speaker 1: to put him in jail for the rest of his

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Speaker 2: To be fair to what the DeSantis was saying there,

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Speaker 2: I think he meant the media hasn't gone full end

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Speaker 2: will once those trials are going on. The trials aren't

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Speaker 2: happening right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it works, and I think it doesn't

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Speaker 1: work because everybody's made up their mind about Trump, and

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Speaker 1: I think what Trump is benefiting from buck A lot

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Speaker 1: of people want to go back to pre COVID America.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people right now. And this is why

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Speaker 1: I think young people are actually supporting Trump too. If

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Speaker 1: you go back and look at twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen. January of twenty twenty is probably the

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Speaker 1: strongest the United States has ever been in the history

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Speaker 1: of our republic. When you look at the economy, when

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Speaker 1: it's hard to even comprehend how good are our economy was.

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Speaker 1: Inflation didn't exist, White, Black, Asian, Hispanic record employment, record wages,

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Speaker 1: eight where we're sitting right now. There wasn't a massive

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in happy birthday to our nation's commander in chief,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, eighty one years young. Today he decided to

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Speaker 4: Just to get here, Liberty and Belle had to beat

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Speaker 1: So I understand some of you out there, maybe even

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Speaker 2: Can I give a I'm gonna give you a really quick,

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Speaker 2: He's an independent. That's what. Whenever you're a former Republican

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna be on soon, hanging out morning Joe,

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Speaker 2: All their other stude the whole thing, two sixteen BC.

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Speaker 2: And this is still taught in military academies and any

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Speaker 1: Referenced all the time in the Civil War because everybody's trying.

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Speaker 2: of retreat. They're pushing back. They're pushing back, but their sides,

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Speaker 2: the wings start the double envelopment, and then they finally

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Speaker 2: by pushing in they are becoming surrounded, it is too late,

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Speaker 2: and you have an absolute slaughter. I mean, the contemporary

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Speaker 2: like a few thousand end up escaping and they basically

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Speaker 2: just are slaughtered with spear and sword that day. One

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Speaker 2: of the biggest losses of battlefield life in one day

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Speaker 2: in all history, and it was because of overconfidence of

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Speaker 2: the front line. Is the GOP right now in a

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Speaker 2: consul Veris and Paulo Romans at canny moment where we think, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's amazing, we're gonna crush Biden, and they're actually coming

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Speaker 2: around our sides in a double envelopment in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Right now, if the election were held today, I think Trump,

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Speaker 2: if he were the nominee or DeSantis, but certainly Trump,

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Speaker 2: because I think he's the most battle tested at this point.

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Speaker 2: To build on your analogy would win comfortably. If you

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Speaker 2: are a Democrat supporter, I think you have to believe

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Speaker 2: that Biden is going to somehow rise, not as much

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Speaker 2: as Trump is going to fall, because I don't think

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Speaker 2: Trump's gore.

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Speaker 1: Here is my thesis, and you can grab this and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it in uh in you know, October.

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Speaker 1: As we get closer to the election, I just don't

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Speaker 1: believe there's gonna be that much movement. The thing that

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Speaker 1: has supp rise me the most about where we are

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Speaker 1: in this cycle is that every time there are voters

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Speaker 1: that are surveyed, there are way more people that are

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Speaker 1: willing to say I voted for Joe Biden in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty and I'm flipping to Trump in twenty twenty four than.

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Speaker 2: I ever would have believed. I'm sure you see this,

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Speaker 2: and DeSantis said it, others are saying it. Yeah, are

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Speaker 2: we falling? Is the GOP? Is the Republican Party falling

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Speaker 2: into a trap of over confidence. That's why I brought

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Speaker 2: up can I, because the whole point is like, yeah, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're winning, we're winning, an oh my gosh, wait, what

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Speaker 2: have we done? Now We've lost? Right? Well, I don't

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Speaker 2: what do you say I know you can't answer because

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Speaker 2: we under the election, but that analysis, what are the

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Speaker 2: pros and cons? Because that's what Ron DeSantis is saying,

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Speaker 2: that's what some others are saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you are buying that, then you have to

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Speaker 1: believe that they are trying to get Trump to be

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Speaker 1: the nominee, Yes and that, and they think that once

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Speaker 1: he's the nominee and he's officially locked in, let's say

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Speaker 1: in February or March, that they are going to be

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Speaker 1: able to slaughter him right in the same way that

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Speaker 1: happened at the Battle of Canai. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: I think that that was their initial thesis. I think

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Speaker 1: they thought, hey, we're going to weaken Trump will strengthen

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Speaker 1: him in the Republican primary. I think what they have

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Speaker 1: failed on is Trump is sort of a teflon candidate

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Speaker 1: at this point. I don't mean that he doesn't have weaknesses,

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Speaker 1: but I mean that all of his weaknesses have already

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Speaker 1: been publicly analyzed and considered and either accepted or rejected

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Speaker 1: by voters. There's nothing that I really believe this. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing that Trump, sort of a health related concern, is

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Speaker 1: going to say or do in the next eleven months.

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Speaker 1: That's going to make people out there say, oh, this

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Speaker 1: is different than Trump. Now, let me say this because

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of Trump people who listen. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot of different campaigns. If I were running

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign right now, I would go all in

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Speaker 1: on Trump is actually a grandpa and he's a super

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Speaker 1: nice guy. I saw a video that should be I

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Speaker 1: think the lead for Trump's ad buys right now. It

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Speaker 1: was Trump going to Grandparents' Day with one of his

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Speaker 1: granddaughters in North Carolina. I think the Lara Trump, her daughter.

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Speaker 1: I think it was in North Carolina. I could be wrong.

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Speaker 1: If I were buying ads right now, I would be

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Speaker 1: buying social media ads of Trump holding that little kindergartener

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Speaker 1: it looked like's hand and walking into grandparents' day, and

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Speaker 1: I would be putting those everywhere where every mom and

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Speaker 1: grandma goes on social media so that you couldn't miss it.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is I actually

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Speaker 1: think Trump has an opportunity to be way more likable

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Speaker 1: than he is. I don't think the same as true

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Speaker 1: for Biden. I think they've already played the uncle Joe

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Speaker 1: Grandpa Joe card, and today with him turning eighty one. Buck,

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Speaker 1: his greatest flaw is his age, and every day it

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Speaker 1: gets worse. So I don't I think their thesis was

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Speaker 1: we're gonna wound Trump and he's gonna be unelectable in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four based on the legal proceedings and everything else.

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Speaker 1: I think that's failed. And I think worse than failing,

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Speaker 1: I think it's backfired on them. Remember the Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal had a story Buck where they said they tested

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Speaker 1: all these super negative ads acts back that is, actually

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Speaker 1: they worked in his favor.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when they were running ads about his legal issues.

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Speaker 2: I just it feels to me like there's this exuberance,

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Speaker 2: there's there's a right now. The GOP has an over

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Speaker 2: and over confidence and I can't shake that. And I

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Speaker 2: think it's because I've got, you know, post twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two trauma. You know, I remember in twenty needed to win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, didn't win the races we needed to win.

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Speaker 1: Correct, But but if you won a national popular vote

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Speaker 1: by two points in the presidential race, the presidential race

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be close. And so I get the frustration over

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. But when you actually go back through it,

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Speaker 1: you know, we had a red wave in New York

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Speaker 1: and in Florida. But a red wave requires you win

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Speaker 1: by five or six points in order to truly flip

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Speaker 1: things in a big way in the House or the Senate.

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Speaker 1: That didn't happen. And honestly, I think, and I hate

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Speaker 1: to give him credit, but I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: that was candidate quality. I think if if the if

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Speaker 1: the Republican I worked as hard as I could for

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Speaker 1: herschel Walker, if the Republicans had run the blandest, most

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Speaker 1: boring Republican Senate candidate in Georgia, I think they won

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Speaker 1: every other race by seven and a half or eight points.

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Speaker 2: I think they would have won.

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Speaker 1: And I think the same thing likely would have happened

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania if McCormick had been the nominee. I think

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Speaker 1: that if they hadn't had a disastrous Mastriano, who we like,

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Speaker 1: but he lost by fourteen points. So I think what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen Buck, in your historical analogy is Biden's

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Speaker 1: not going to run. I think it's the Democrats whose

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Speaker 1: strategy is flawed and they're going to have to adjust.

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Speaker 1: And then that's when I get nervous, because we're all

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Speaker 1: geared up for Trump v. Biden, and I think Biden

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Speaker 1: is the weakest candidate that Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Can put forward. This is so interesting because there are

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Speaker 2: people who really believe out there who are very conservative.

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Speaker 2: We're a very right wing. They think that the you know,

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Speaker 2: the Democrats are very quiet about it, right, But we

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Speaker 2: have to banish that thinking right away, because a year

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Speaker 2: is an eternity. In an ala, it is an eternity.

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Speaker 1: But I would say this, and lots of things can

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Speaker 1: change that don't involve Trump or Biden and the large

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Speaker 1: look at what happened with COVID in February and March

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Speaker 1: of twenty But I do think we have to recognize

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Speaker 1: that this campaign is unique in a way that nothing

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Speaker 1: like it has ever occurred in any of our lives.

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Speaker 1: Where every single person knows everything about Joe Biden and

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Speaker 1: everything about Trump. Usually the challenger is not that well known.

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Speaker 1: If it's a Trump Biden rematch, everybody knows everything, so

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Speaker 1: redefining the candidates becomes very very hard.

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Speaker 2: But isn't that then just the question is if this

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Speaker 2: is going to be turning on a razor's edge, who's

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Speaker 2: going to be better at that?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: This is where it is.

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Speaker 1: I think well, the get out the vote your your thesis,

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Speaker 1: which is scary is that the candidate doesn't matter because

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Speaker 1: Democrats have perfected to get out the vote machine in

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Speaker 1: the states where it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: For those that is that is my belief. That is

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Speaker 2: what keep you know, if you're asking what keeps me

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Speaker 2: up at night about this election, and put aside any

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Speaker 2: I just I think the better effect. They're better at

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Speaker 2: this in Pennsylvania and in Michigan and in Georgia, in

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Speaker 2: George Consin than we are. Yes, that's when early ess

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Speaker 1: on this Monday edition of the program, we got a

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Speaker 1: different topics. Let's take some of those calls right here,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with Kate in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Kate, what you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Hight You guys asked if we might be missing something

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Speaker 6: we are all that we are all missing. Here's what

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Speaker 6: I think we are as Democrats do not care if

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Speaker 6: Biden is incompetent. In fact, by voting for Biden, it's

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Speaker 6: like Liberals are giving everyone the big middle finger, as in,

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Speaker 6: they could put forth Big Bird and still vote for

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Speaker 6: him because they all know that the liberal machine is

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Speaker 6: running the country. And that's why I think Biden will

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Speaker 6: unfortunately win.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like you're on team Buck on

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Speaker 2: this one. That's what I've been saying for like a

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Speaker 2: year now.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I just I see everything falling into place

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Speaker 6: for that to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get fear and hear that Big Bird she

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Speaker 2: thinks they could run Big Bird.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean John Fetterman, Big Bird's probably better spokesperson

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Speaker 1: than John Fetterman was in the twenty twenty two election.

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Speaker 1: Jessica san Antonio down in Texas with us. What's up, Jessica?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, Okay, so my take on all of this

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Speaker 7: is and I don't even know who this person's going

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Speaker 7: to be. I would be very interested to know who

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Speaker 7: Trump is going to have running with him, who is

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Speaker 7: running made it's going to be. I think that's going

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Speaker 7: to be of the utmost importance.

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Speaker 1: Jessica, you didn't vote for according to this, you didn't

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Speaker 1: vote for Trump in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Who'd you vote for? Do you not vote at all?

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Speaker 7: I sat out twenty twenty because I was always a Democrat, always,

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Speaker 7: but I could not even I can't stand Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, So what made you change? You said

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Speaker 1: you're a lifelong Democrat. I've talked about this. I voted

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Speaker 1: Democrat earlier in my life. I think Democrats have gone crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious, was there something that occurred? Was it

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Speaker 1: COVID like what changed for you such that I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: if Trump ran in twenty four you would be a

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Speaker 1: voter for him in twenty four, ready to.

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Speaker 7: Vote for him. Yeah? I would say for me, it's

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Speaker 7: really just the Democrats going so far to the left

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Speaker 7: and really seeing what they have done to Trump, you know,

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Speaker 7: and really just you know, listening to both sides. I

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Speaker 7: think it's I think it's you know, terrible what they've

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Speaker 7: done to him. And I think, you know, painting him

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Speaker 7: as a racist. I just can't find the evidence for

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Speaker 7: all of these things they are accusing him of. And

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Speaker 7: I and I should be able to find that being

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Speaker 7: a liberal person, you know, with the friends I have,

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Speaker 7: I just can't. I just can't.

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Speaker 2: How old How old are you, Jessica? How old are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm thirty nine?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're thirty nine. How do your friends around your

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Speaker 1: same age react if and when you tell them that

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Speaker 1: you're going to vote for Trump? Are they concerned about abortion?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What would you say? What is the reaction when you

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Speaker 1: have those conversations with other women?

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Speaker 7: With women? One hundred percent, it's about his They think

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Speaker 7: he's a white supremacist. I mean, this is that comes

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Speaker 7: out of their mouth. They think that that's that's what

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Speaker 7: he is. Abortion is going to be a huge issue,

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Speaker 7: I mean for Democrats and for women who say they're independent,

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Speaker 7: but they're going to vote pro choice no matter what.

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Speaker 7: I mean. I you know, that's just that's a big

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Speaker 7: issue for all women. But they the way that my

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Speaker 7: circle of friends and a lot of these people are

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Speaker 7: Trump voters. Now, I mean I'm telling you he has

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Speaker 7: really converted a lot of people. I have I don't

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Speaker 7: even I mean, well, just.

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Speaker 2: The polling seems to indicate that some thing. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the happening recently. Thank you for calling Jessica Clay,

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Speaker 2: because these are it's not like, oh yeah, it's neck

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Speaker 2: and neck, because that's always what we would have expected

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Speaker 2: between Biden and Trump, because that's what it has been

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Speaker 2: in the past. Yeah, he has surged. Why is he

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Speaker 2: surging in the polling? I talked about the possibility that

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Speaker 2: this is almost a trap. You know, this is meant

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Speaker 2: to it's a trip. Maybe it's a trap. Maybe not,

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Speaker 2: maybe not, Clay, where are you taking the CNB train

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Speaker 2: of the next hour.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into I think, in particular the fact that

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Speaker 1: Biden's eighty one years old today. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: hear this talked about very many places. You heard Biden

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Speaker 1: in DeSantis and the cliff that you played, say, Trump

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Speaker 1: is seventy seven, and you know he's got the same

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Speaker 1: age issue. They're hiding the fact that Biden is having

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Speaker 1: his birthday today. They had a wedding on the eightieth

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Speaker 1: birthday to try to distract that as well.

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Speaker 2: Biden can barely walk. Trump shot a seventy two on

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Speaker 2: the golf course. The day we saw Right Avis and

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.