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Speaker 1: Hour two, Clay and Buck kicks off.

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Speaker 2: Now Trump and Elon's onslaught of sanity continues, grows, expands.

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing thing that we are witnessing. My friends,

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Speaker 2: enjoy it, drink it all in. After all the years

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Speaker 2: where we were in the cultural and political wilderness, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not just talking about the four years of Biden.

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Speaker 2: You think back to eight years of Obama and what

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Speaker 2: first term and of course in the twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 2: To where we are now is an incredible story arc.

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Speaker 2: It is a narrative that you wouldn't believe unless the

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Speaker 2: world was experiencing it right, unless it was actually happening.

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Speaker 2: And it just continues every time, every time I refresh

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Speaker 2: establish a sovereign wealth Fund. He's just moving at breakneck speed.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the implications for this, I might add,

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Speaker 2: But Clay, just that the it's the government. It can't

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Speaker 2: Just accept it. That mentality is under assault now in

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Speaker 2: a way that I don't even think a lot of

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Speaker 2: the American people. I don't know if any American people

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Speaker 2: really until Trump came along, thought it was possible.

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Speaker 1: And that brings me to a few things here.

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Speaker 2: One is Elon Musk sharing on his platforms time to confess.

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Speaker 2: Media reports saying that Doge has some of the world's

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Speaker 1: He's just trolling everybody.

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Speaker 2: They have access now, people who are better at the

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Speaker 2: Internet and just understanding how the architecture of the you know,

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Speaker 2: electronic world we live in functions Clay. They've got access

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Speaker 2: to the Treasury Department's payment portal and they're going through

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Speaker 2: paying attention to what kind of fraud they were paying

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is such a sea change.

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Speaker 2: And now on the USAID front, which the office, the

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Speaker 2: that government structure. But Marco Rubio had this to say

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are things that USAID that we do through

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Speaker 3: the USAID that we should continue to do, and we

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Speaker 3: has adopted over the years is no, we are independent

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Speaker 3: of the national interest. We fund programs irrespective of whether

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Speaker 3: it's aligned or not aligned with the foreign policy.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. He's a taxpayer dollars.

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Speaker 3: Every penny that we spend in fore and eight needs

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Speaker 3: not about ending the programs that USAID does per se.

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Speaker 3: There are things that it does that are good, and

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Speaker 1: See Clay.

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Speaker 2: This is the critical point that Secretary Rubio is making.

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Speaker 2: It is about bringing these government institutions that are in

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Speaker 2: Columbia, like you scrolled through your phone and they're like,

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Speaker 2: their talking points just look ridiculous. They're too slow to react,

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Speaker 2: Every war is faught. What with the technology of the

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Speaker 2: they they have a playbook that's we have media dominant,

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Speaker 2: I just point out we have been saying this since

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Speaker 2: the destruction of Trump? And what do they have, Clay,

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Speaker 1: Like we're in a whole new era.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, Buck, a part of me wonders, what

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Speaker 2: Cause your point about the executive orders, Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: What I will expect is there will be some Democrat senators,

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Speaker 2: talking about how beer comes from Mexico and do we

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Speaker 4: Let's just take Super Bowl Sunday. Okay, it's going to

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Speaker 4: affect beer. Okay, most of it Corona here comes from Mexico.

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Speaker 4: made of avocados both from Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Okay, as awkward as this is, they're like, hey, politician

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Speaker 2: And first of all, Buck, most beer doesn't come from Mexico.

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Speaker 1: You can buy. In fact, you can.

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Speaker 2: Buy virtually all your beer in the United States born

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Speaker 2: and brot. That's one of the best things that America

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Speaker 2: does is create a bevy of beer. I'm not a

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Speaker 2: and I could tell you if Corona was so great,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't have to drop a line in it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying. And then on.

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Speaker 2: The notion that your avocado is going to get so

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Speaker 2: much more expensive and all this stuff, Okay, first of all,

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Speaker 2: let's just unpack this for a second. Trump is trying

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Speaker 2: to get the necessary assistance from Mexico so that we

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Speaker 2: don't have a wide open border with ten million illegals

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Speaker 2: maybe it's fifteen million.

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Speaker 1: Who cares.

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Speaker 2: Point is ten million plus illegals piling in every four years,

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people dying every year of fentonl overdoses

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Speaker 5: You know, if we can get help on that, and

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Speaker 5: it means our avocado's are a little more expensive. The

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Speaker 5: American people are actually okay with that. You know, this

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Speaker 8: No, I can't.

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Speaker 9: I really hope that the President considers pardoning the rest

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Speaker 9: of the people. Those fourteen individuals whose sentences were commuted,

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Speaker 9: a few of them Thomas Caldwell for example, and I

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Speaker 9: hope you guys have him on your show. He wasn't

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Speaker 9: sentenced to prison, he was not a member of the oathkeepers.

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Speaker 9: He had one charge left against him at the end

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Speaker 9: of the day, and that was tampering with documents because

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Speaker 9: he got rid of his Facebook account, believe it or not,

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Speaker 9: and that was even vacated by the judge. So I

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Speaker 9: really would like to see the President consider pardoning those

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Speaker 9: individuals as well. Also, we have the whit Murph fed

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Speaker 9: napping hoax. We have two men in super max prisons

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Speaker 9: being tortured. I mean they are with the country's most

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Speaker 9: hardened repeat offender, serious criminals, serious terrorists, and of course

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Speaker 9: those men also in trap by the FBI. I would

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Speaker 9: like to see his DJ, if not part in those

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Speaker 9: two individuals, but launch an investigation into what happened there. So,

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Speaker 9: but I'm not complaining because this is, as I said,

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Speaker 9: a far better start than any of us could have

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Speaker 9: dreamed of.

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Speaker 2: What do you think comes next? Is this all, Julia?

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Speaker 2: I know you've been following this so closely. Is this

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Speaker 2: going to just get tangled up in the courts really fast?

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Speaker 2: Because really, at the heart of this, it seems to

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Speaker 2: me that there is this belief that if you work

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Speaker 2: for the federal government you just can't be fired. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know that you get to just do what you

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Speaker 2: do and nothing ever happens. And then when you have

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Speaker 2: a president who comes in and with presidential power and

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Speaker 2: with his appointees and saying no, I'm sorry, there is

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Speaker 2: going to be accountability. What would it mean if the

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Speaker 2: courts overturned this and said, no, sorry, you actually can't

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Speaker 2: fire these FBI? Did you see what I mean? What

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Speaker 2: do you think happens next? And what are the implications

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Speaker 2: of it?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 9: So, this very well could end up in the courts.

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Speaker 9: You had normalize in our favorite lawfare architect and Mark

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Speaker 9: zaid send a letter to the Department of Justice yesterday

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Speaker 9: warning that you'll love this. You will love this, that

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Speaker 9: the due process and constitutional rights of these prosecutors and

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Speaker 9: FBI agents are being violated, that they are going to

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Speaker 9: be subject to doxing and harassment because they are being

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Speaker 9: exposed for what they've done, especially in the J six investigation,

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Speaker 9: and that these lawyers will pursue some sort of legal

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Speaker 9: means to defend these government employees from getting the acts.

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Speaker 9: So it could end up in the courts. The problem

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Speaker 9: is it will probably end up in the DC courts

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Speaker 9: before the very same judges who have put their informater

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Speaker 9: on every aspect of this law fair from President Trump

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Speaker 9: down to some of his associates and associates that of

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Speaker 9: course almost one thousand and six hundred JA six defendants.

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Speaker 8: So I figured this.

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Speaker 9: Will be a battle, but you know there's going to

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Speaker 9: be risk involved for that side as well, and that

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Speaker 9: is arguing why they should have been fired and what

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Speaker 9: they did, whether it was top DOJ officials or you know,

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Speaker 9: an FBI case agent out of a field office in

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Speaker 9: Nevada or in Texas. So this full accounting is going

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Speaker 9: to be very eye opening, and I think that they're

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Speaker 9: kind of setting the table for Pamboby and Cash Pattel

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Speaker 9: to take this information that they have and then decide

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Speaker 9: how they want to pursue their own investigations or inquiries

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Speaker 9: into the DOJ and FBI.

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Speaker 2: This is all very important, and you've done tremendous work,

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Speaker 2: as has Trump. How impressed Be honest, Julie, are you

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Speaker 2: with my unbelievable recovery from the flu and also the

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Speaker 2: fact that I have barely talked about it at all.

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Speaker 9: I just I just want to give thanks to God

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Speaker 9: for sparing you from the sniffles. I mean it's really

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Speaker 9: sounded touch and go. And now we have to send

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Speaker 9: prayers out to Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Kelly, I know you're weighing in.

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Speaker 2: Jesse's entire family is about to go down with the flu.

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Speaker 1: And I was very brave.

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Speaker 2: I stayed in bed, I watched twelve hours of college basketball,

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Speaker 2: and I frankly think it was a heroic battle.

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Speaker 1: I was fighting.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 9: I painted save Clay on the water tower outside my house,

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Speaker 9: and now I'm going to have to go change it

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Speaker 9: save Jesse because and who knows who's next.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is this is quite quite the cult.

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Speaker 1: The men in America are under siege.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just don't talk about our health as

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Speaker 2: often as we should, but we're really all very steadfast troopers,

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Speaker 2: and Julie just you know, you may think it's ai

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Speaker 2: that Fauci visited Clay with a special check in to

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Speaker 2: make sure he got his fourteenth booster, but there are

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Speaker 2: some people out there who don't accept that explanation and

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Speaker 2: think that really it was just surveillance footage the Fauci

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Speaker 2: meme that.

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Speaker 8: Really showed up we would have a far different.

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Speaker 1: Outcome for Clay, So that's very true.

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Speaker 8: I'm glad that's not real.

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Speaker 2: Julie, you continue to dominate. We appreciate you taking the

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Speaker 2: time to come on. And also I want to give

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Speaker 2: producer Greg a shout out because it was his creation

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Speaker 2: of that Fauci meme that as I was deliriously rolling

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Speaker 2: over in a fever, wasn't sure if I was going

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Speaker 2: to make it or not. That was the thing that

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Speaker 2: was on my phone. So I appreciate Greg. Julie, I

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Speaker 2: expect that when you get the flu, you'll also be

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Speaker 2: doing eight other jobs at the same time as most

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Speaker 2: women do.

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Speaker 1: But we we appreciate you.

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Speaker 8: All right, guys, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, But do you that's Julie Kelly who does

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Speaker 2: fabulous work. Do you buy into the fact, as women

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Speaker 2: like to argue that all men when they get sick,

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Speaker 2: are complete and total horses. Is this a unfair attack

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Speaker 2: on masculinity or do you think we're more of hooses

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Speaker 2: when we get sick than women are. I just think

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Speaker 2: that my view on this is that men, particularly when

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Speaker 2: they're sick, they want that feminine nurturing from the misses,

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Speaker 2: and so they ham it up a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit like, oh, I don't know if I'm ever gonna

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Speaker 1: be here the same again. Can you bring me some

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Speaker 1: chicken noodle soup, honey, you know? Or as the thing,

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Speaker 1: women don't really you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think that they just they don't have any desire

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Speaker 2: for male nurturing.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Laura thinks you're gonna make from scratch chicken noodle soup

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Speaker 2: from her because it would probably not taste very good,

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Speaker 2: So she's not angling at accurate. That's actually a good

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Speaker 2: thesis on what's going on here, because women do regularly

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Speaker 2: attack men. But I will say that my bat with

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Speaker 2: the flu this weekend was probably the equivalent of ten

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Speaker 2: labor deliveries by women. That's just how hard I was

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Speaker 2: fighting again humbly maybe maybe nine maybe nine baby deliveries.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like my immune system, the battle

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Speaker 2: that I was fighting. I just think it's important for

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Speaker 2: all of you to know. Julie Kelly always fantastic. I

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Speaker 2: want to tell you, from day one on the show,

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Speaker 2: Pure Talks have been These emails, by the way, are

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Speaker 2: going to be great. That was Buck who compared the

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Speaker 2: flu to labor. Make sure that you address him according

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Speaker 2: don't let him get away with that false. False. From

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Speaker 2: switch right there, same phone, same phone number. Going forward,

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Speaker 2: dial Pound two five zero, new phone, same phone number,

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Speaker 1: Two guys walk up to a mic.

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Speaker 7: He anything goes Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them

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Speaker 7: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in.

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging

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Speaker 2: out with us. We got a bunch of people weighing

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Speaker 2: in on a variety of different subjects. V email from

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Speaker 2: Ron Buck he says sorry. From Kerry Beyonce. Winning a

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Speaker 2: Grammy for country music is like Obama winning a Nobel

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Speaker 2: Prize for winning a presidential election. That of course, was

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Speaker 2: a crazy Nobel Prize. Another good example would be the

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Speaker 2: New York Times winning all those Pulitzers for their Russia

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Speaker 2: collusion stories. We got a couple of different callers, Jason

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Speaker 2: in Texas, you have an idea historical analogy for Elon Musk,

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Speaker 2: who you got?

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Speaker 10: I think Benjamin Franklin is the closest person I could

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Speaker 10: compare him to to have such an impact first in

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Speaker 10: science and business and then in the diplomacy that we're

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Speaker 10: seeing that the blending between that and the political world,

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Speaker 10: there's really I can't think of another better example. People

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Speaker 10: forget that Benjamin Franklin was a wildly successful business guy

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Speaker 10: before he became a scientist, and then he became a

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Speaker 10: famous politician. And I think they're both literal geniuses. And

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Speaker 10: as I told the screener, President Trump has done more

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Speaker 10: in the first two weeks of his first term than

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Speaker 10: every single Republican president I've voted for since nineteen eighty

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Speaker 10: eight has ever done. They all promised this stuff, they

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Speaker 10: never did any of it. And if he has a

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Speaker 10: great second term, he eclipses Reagan, FDR and Lincoln on

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Speaker 10: as saleably true.

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Speaker 2: It's an incredible call. I agree with everything he said.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the things that Trump has done in the

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Speaker 2: first two weeks are frankly incredible. I think Buck's right.

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Speaker 2: If we want to kind of be concerned going forward.

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Speaker 2: It's that Congress doesn't have the ability to match the

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Speaker 2: speed and efficacy of the executive branch because it's Congress

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Speaker 2: and because the majorities in the House in the Senate

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Speaker 2: are not huge, and so it's going to act as

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Speaker 2: a sort of break on the ability to move the

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Speaker 2: government very rapidly in a direction that it needs to go.

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Speaker 1: John and kp cod what you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Hey, I love the show, guys. It's always a pivotal

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Speaker 6: part of my day as a government employee. I cannot

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Speaker 6: wait for this doach to take effect and come in.

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Speaker 6: I'm not the blue collar of the government workforce, and

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Speaker 6: I cannot wait for it to come in. Clean house,

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Speaker 6: save us some money, get the government on track. Also,

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Speaker 6: I was offered ay, I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 6: saw it, but Trump had to put out an order

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Speaker 6: for us for government employees to resign up until February sixth.

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Speaker 6: You get paid for eight months. So the branch that

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Speaker 6: I work for is off of DHS. We were actually

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Speaker 6: denied this because they were not aware of the amount

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Speaker 6: of people that were applying to resign early eight months

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Speaker 6: of pay. They're not ready for it, and there's hundreds

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Speaker 6: of not thousands. So you know, I think it's good

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Speaker 6: that we're start getting rid of as the high bureaucratic

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Speaker 6: GS employees and and clean up with this DOGE. But

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Speaker 6: on the other hand, I'm not sure if Trump was

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Speaker 6: aware that there's this many government employees that are going

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Speaker 6: to actually resign.

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Speaker 2: And thank you for the call and sharing that information.

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Speaker 2: If it's true, that's phenomenal news, Buck, because one of

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Speaker 2: the fastest ways you could curb government spending is not

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Speaker 2: to have the current current cost every year of all

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Speaker 2: of the two million plus federal employees. I think they

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Speaker 2: were saying they were hoping for six or ten percent,

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Speaker 2: and I appreciate that individual's call. If he's right that

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Speaker 2: it ended up being fifteen percent that we're willing to leave,

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Speaker 2: that's even better. Well, also, notice that we're not seeing

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Speaker 2: DOGE say, hey, we're just gonna we're gonna like fire

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Speaker 2: everybody in border patrol, and we're gonna get rid of

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Speaker 2: all the federal prosecutors, and we're gonna There are jobs

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Speaker 2: that government does that we know need to be done,

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Speaker 2: and some people do them very well, and they are

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Speaker 2: needed and they are appreciated. The amount of waste, fraud,

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Speaker 2: and abuse that goes on in the federal bureaucracy, which

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Speaker 2: has just been getting bigger and more expensive and less efficient.

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Speaker 2: For again, I think our entire adult lives pretty much

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Speaker 2: is obviously something that should be dealt with. And it's funny, Clay,

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Speaker 2: because if you listen to the critics of this, it

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Speaker 2: almost sounds like they think every federal job and every

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Speaker 2: dollar spent on the federal government is sacred. How could

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Speaker 2: you cut anything, No business, no entity operates that way

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Speaker 2: where we're at perfection, that's insane. Well, it is emblematic

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Speaker 2: of the fact that Democrats don't understand how profit and

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Speaker 2: loss works, or understand it to a large extent, how

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Speaker 2: basic business works, which is why all their policies fail.

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Speaker 1: Frankly,