1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Third hour, Clan Buck kicks off. Now our friend Alex 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Berenson back in the mix, the man who stood a 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: thwart the madness on COVID and got a whole lot 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: of it right when. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: It was really hard to do so. 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: He is the author of a sub stack unreported truths 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: and also the book Pandemia alex so So Fauci he testified, 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: he just came clean on everything, said he was sorry 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and admitted that he got everything wrong. 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: Right. Oh yeah, that's exactly what happened. It's actually very 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: disappointing because habit changed. They got him in front of 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: Congress to. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: I think he's breaking up. Let's call him back and 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: make sure we get a better signal. We're going to 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 4: be talking to Alex Parentson and Buck. Your opening question 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: is about the testimony we got from Fauci this week, 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: and I think what Alex is gonna say is that 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: he wanted the to be a greater takedown of Fauci 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 4: than there was. And this is just advice that I 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: would give. I know every politician wants their five minutes 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: in the sun when they're questioning here, I wish they 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: would deputize the smartest person who is on this committee 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 4: and knows the facts front and back and sideways and 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: let them ask every question. 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: And I know that's. 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 4: Counter to everybody gets their five minutes to say whatever 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: they want. They could meet and suggest questions, but I 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: feel like you would get a far better reflection of 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 4: questioning if you got the single most informed person to ask. 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I think that's true in team. Let us know if 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: we get them back on the era. I would just 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: say the problem with that is for so many of 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: these congressional hearings, the point is not actually transparency or truth. 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: It is for members of Congress to grandstand in both parties, 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: get a viral moment, and get on their respective cable 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: news source of choice. Alex, you are back. We are 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: hoping the phone keep keep you going here. So you 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: were saying, fauci total maya kulpa, Wow, he has so 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: much integrity. 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: Yes, no, that's that's exactly what happened. No, I mean, look, 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 3: here's the thing what you said about the grand standing, 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: and you know, members of Congress looking for their moment 43 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: in the sun. That's that's true, right, and against like 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: a university president who's not used to testifying, you may 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: be able to do that, but against Tony Fauci, it's 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: not going to work, okay, because Fauci has been at 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 3: this game for forty years. He knows when to say 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: I don't recall, he knows when to throw somebody under 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: the bus. He knows, you know, who's going to protect 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: him on the Democratic side. 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I'd argue he knows that better than anything else, including 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: anything happen to do with medicine. 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: By the way, that's probably true. So so the five 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: minute disjoint did you know? And I get what you're 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: remember Congress, you want to get to ask your questions. 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: You've been elected to do that. But if if once 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: if the devil, if the Republicans don't have a strategy 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: of we're going to build up our questions this way, 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: we're going to handle it this way, Fauci's just gonna 60 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: he's not You're not gonna be able to get to him. 61 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: So you have, you know, you have one good question 62 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: and he you know, he parries it, and then you 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: have something, you know, something completely random from another member. 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: So that's sort of what happened. And I think, you know, 65 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: I think it was. It was disappointing because in some 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: ways it's sort of like, I don't know that they're 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: going to get another chance. I don't know. You know, look, 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: rand Paul is obviously going to keep pushing on Fauci, 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: and Ran Paul is very smart and very diligent and 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: very determined and has staff that's going to push on this. 71 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: But for those of us who thought, okay, you know 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: what they do. They are getting Fauci to testify, and 73 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: they're doing it in the wake of these hearings in 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks where well, especially David Morin's 75 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: this guy who worked for Fauci, you know, really there 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: was damning testimony about how he had hidden information from 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: Freedom of Information actor were and how essentially he even 78 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: said in some emails with Stauchi, seemed to be encouraging 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: him to do that. They were not able to present 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: a coherent narrative or get Fauci off his game. 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: We're talking to Alex Berenson, Alex, what did you We're 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: going to get into other issues with you as well, 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: but what did you make of the New York Times 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: suddenly coming out It almost felt like in conjunction with 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: the Fauci speech and saying, oh yeah, by the way, 86 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 4: the evidence all overwhelmingly suggests that COVID did come from 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: a Chinese lab in Wuhan. After years of telling anyone 88 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: they were a conspiracy theorist, for even mentioning that idea, 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: for saying that it was racist to be able or 90 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: willing to share that idea, where are we headed? This 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: is a question we've asked you now for a while, 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: But now that I think it's fair to say COVID 93 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: is over in terms of it being a political related issue, 94 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: how long do you think it will take for the 95 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: truth from a historical perspective to start to set And 96 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 4: what is that going to look like in your mind 97 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: over the next ten or fifteen years. 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: So that's that's a great point you made, and a 99 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: great question because it was it was the same day. 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: It clearly was tied to his testimony and hearing. Very 101 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: interesting that the New York Times, the New York Times, 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: the voice sort of the liberal establishment, published a piece 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: and and I wish they, you know, I wish they 104 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: would take it out from the paywall. But I don't 105 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: know how anyone could look at that piece and not 106 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: say the evidence for a lamblique is overwhelming, you know, 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: And and you know it was very graphically well done. 108 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: You know, it just takes a couple of minutes to read. 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: And at the end of it you say, wow, like, 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: how could anyone disagree that this almost certainly came from 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: that lap based on this overwhelming evidence. Meanwhile, Fauci let 112 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: get well, I'll not admit that, right, so what but again, 113 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: because he's too smart now to you know, insist on 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: something that you know is not true. Instead, he'll say, well, 115 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: my mind is open. It was always open. I always 116 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: just wanted the truth, and you know that's not true. 117 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: Right In twenty twenty, he and the virology community clearly 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: steered you know, the rest of the world, you know, 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: the governments, the media, independent investigators, away from any lablique evidence, right, 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: or any any investigation of a lablak. So okay. So 121 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 3: now it's four years later. Whatever evidence the Chinese had, 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: it's gone. Okay, we will never get to it. Is 123 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: there evidence somewhere in some nsa database of for example, 124 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: sequences of coronaviruses that were held at that lab that 125 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: you know are very very close to Sarskov two. That 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: would be something close to a smoking gun, okay, And 127 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: we know that the Chinese had nineteen thousand sequences posted 128 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: genetic sequences from coronaviruses that they took down and have 129 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: never again allowed the world to see. And it is 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: possible that one of those nineteen thousand is the genetic 131 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: precursor to SARS Cove two. So the Chinese aren't gonna 132 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: We're never going to see that. But I have to 133 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: believe that somewhere in the US intelligence community that database 134 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: was saved. Maybe not, that would be a smoking gun. 135 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: If we can't get that, and if we can't get 136 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: somebody who was at you know, inside that lab to 137 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: defect and tell us the truth, there will all And 138 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: you know that that seems incredibly unlikely, given the China 139 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: has become sort of more and more totalitarian in the 140 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: last few years. And I'm sure the penalties that person's 141 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: family would face, you know, would be enormous, and you know, 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: the Chinese would just deny it anyway. So if we 143 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: can't get there, we're gonna be in a place where 144 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: I think most people will reasonably assume this came from 145 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: a lab, but there will be deniers, and unfortunately those 146 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: deniers will be actually people in positions of power, you know, 147 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: both we have Fauci and his act like. 148 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: At the CDC in the NIH, not like deniers in 149 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: some dark corner of the Internet. We're speaking Alex Berenson, Alex, 150 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: wait before I just want to I want to switch 151 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: gears to you because we don't have much time. And 152 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: initially I want to we you know, we brought you 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: on in Clay's like, we got to talk Fauci. I'm like, 154 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: I know, let's talk Fauci first, but we also want 155 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: to ask you the Trump trial, the Trump Show trial 156 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: has taken the United States to the edge of disaster. 157 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: You're not a catastrophis guy, and you're not a Trump 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: partisan guy. But this is on your sub stack Unreported Truths, 159 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: which I recommend people subscribe to. You're seeing this is 160 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: a big, big problem. I want to hear it from 161 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: you because you're not the usual like, well, I just 162 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, love MAGA and America first and all that stuff. 163 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: You see this as somebody who just says this is 164 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: horrible for the country. 165 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: Yes, so so yes, it's horrible for the country. And 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: you know, and I wrote this thing, by the way, 167 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: and you know, my supporters tend to be more conservative 168 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: than I am, and actually a lot of them didn't 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: like what I wrote, because here's what I wrote. The 170 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: trial was terrible. Okay. Anybody who paid close attention to 171 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: this trial and to the civil fraud trial which was 172 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: which was even worse, knows that Donald Trump has been 173 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: fined five hundred million dollars now close to five hundred 174 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 3: million dollars for loans that he took out and repaid 175 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: in full. And now he's facing four years in prison 176 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: for what for misclassifying a payment to a lawyer made 177 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen after an election that had supposedly influenced 178 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: that election because Donald Trump have a time machine, because 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: I don't understand how that worked. Okay. So the cases 180 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: were a joke, a dangerous joke, brought in a very 181 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: very deep blue jurisdiction, Okay. And I'm not saying, by 182 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: the way, that all four of the cases are equally bad. 183 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: This case was definitely the worst, and it is unfortunate 184 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: that is the one that went forward first. Okay. But 185 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: Republicans now they're furious, right, and they are saying, we 186 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: are going, you know what, if you're going to weaponize 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: the law against Donald Trump, who has been leading candidate 188 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: for president, who is the leader of the Republican Party. 189 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: If Democratic prosecutors are going to do that, guess what, 190 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: We're going to find ways to do that too. We 191 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: are going to escalate. And if Trump wins, he is 192 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: more or less I promise this to turn a word, 193 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: but he's strongly suggested he's going to escalate. And that 194 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: is really dangerous, okay, And I don't know how we 195 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: get out of it, because if the Democrats win, they're 196 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: gonna say, hey, this went great for us. We you know, 197 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: we we called them a convicted felon, and we convinced 198 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: just enough people to get the you know, the walking 199 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: corps known as Joe Biden reelected. So so that if 200 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: the Democrats win, they're going to view what they did 201 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: as a victory. If if the Republicans win, they are 202 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: going to want payback in the most vicious way. And 203 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: what happens then I don't know. But if we're in 204 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: a country where people who are you know, politicians from 205 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: Alabama are afraid to come to New York, or politicians 206 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: from New York are afraid to have fundraisers in Florida, 207 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: I mean that is a that is a recipe for 208 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: you know, ultimate dissolution of the country. I'm not saying 209 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: that's going to happen, but you know, I never thought 210 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: that was even a remote possibility. And now you would 211 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: have to say we're going in a direction that it 212 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: is at least a remote possibility. And that's you know, 213 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: as somebody who loves America and loves all fifty states, 214 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: that's terrifying to me. 215 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: Okay, So I actually think this is an interesting question 216 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: for you. Then let's pretend you could wave a magic 217 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: wand and avoid this. Uh, you know, conflicts continuing? Is 218 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: the way to do that by making Democrats have the 219 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: same fear that Republicans have to have now or is 220 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: there some other way? Because the analogy I made on 221 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: the show was, you know, detante works because you're afraid 222 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: that if you fire a nuclear weapon you will get 223 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: blown up too. Right now, by and large, Republicans have 224 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: not tried to put democrats in prison, certainly not the 225 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: same level that democrats have. How do you fix it? 226 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: So so I agree with that, And you know, there 227 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: is this argument you need you need the terrence and 228 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: the threat of retribution. I mean, I guess, and you 229 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: know it's funny because I suppose That's one possibility. The 230 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: other possibility would be that Trump and I say this, 231 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: I said this in the sub stect. If Trump wins, 232 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: you know, thirty five states, if he actually wins in 233 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: a major way, perhaps you know, I don't I don't 234 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 3: think of him generally as a guy who's sort of forgiven. 235 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: You don't think of Donald Trump is being the most 236 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: forgiven guy. Maybe he says, look, the voters have have 237 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: you know, seen this for what it was, They've punished 238 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party. I don't need to do this, and 239 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: so that's that would end the cycle, one would one 240 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: would hope. Now it's also possible if he won like that, 241 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: he would say, you know, I'm going to I have 242 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: a mandate to do whatever I want. I'm going to 243 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: prosecute all these people. But I would hope that wouldn't happen. 244 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: So I do understand this idea of you need to 245 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: deter but I just don't see how that works because 246 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: there will be there will be democratic prosecutors who have 247 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: the power to do this in democratic states too, So 248 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: there is sort of no there's no logical end to 249 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: the cycle. If Republicans escalate, and I understand their desire 250 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: to escalate, knowing how terrible these cases are, but I 251 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: just this is why I'm frightened by it, because I 252 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: don't see a good way. 253 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: Out, no doubt. 254 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: Alex Bearnson encourage you guys to go check out the 255 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: sub stack. I'm sure we'll talk to you again soon. 256 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: Alex. 257 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: We appreciate the time, have a good weekend. 258 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, and I'm sorry about my phone. 259 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: No worries. You're good once you got back on. Happens 260 00:13:58,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: every time. 261 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: You would think. It's one of the bane of the 262 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 4: existences of radio people. This was an issue twenty five 263 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: years ago when cell phones first started getting popular. We 264 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 4: still have not managed to have cell phones that consistently 265 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: can keep signals, and every one of you out there 266 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: knows somewhere in your neighborhood where it's not going to 267 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: work very well. 268 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: Just the reality. 269 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: We're talking about going to Israel for the show in 270 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: the near future, next couple of months, because we want 271 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: to send a message to Israel and the Israeli people 272 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: that we support their fight back against the terrorist in Gaza. 273 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: The Israeli Populace is a resolute group. Attacks on October 274 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: seventh have had an incredible effect on the number, unfortunately 275 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: of anti Semitic actions both here and in Israel. It's 276 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: one of the reasons we partnered with the International Fellowship 277 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: of Christians and Jews the IFCJ. This is an organization 278 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: going the distance to show Israelis they're not alone, that 279 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 4: people halfway across the world care about them and their safety. 280 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: You can join a and stand with the IFCJ to 281 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: raise your voice and show your support. 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Support IFCJ dot org. 290 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 5: Clay Travison buck Sexton Mic drops that never sounded so good. 291 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 5: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 292 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. 293 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 294 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling 295 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: through the Friday edition of the program at eight hundred 296 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: and two A two two eight A two. If you 297 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: want to weigh in, I wanted to play this cut 298 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: for you. It's going to sound worse than it is, 299 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: but Buck and I were talking about it off air. 300 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: Fox News anchor Harris Faulkner, we haven't played this yet. 301 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: Right. 302 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: Cut twenty six says sixty five percent of voters believe 303 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: genders determined by sex at birth. That means thirty five 304 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: percent of people are crazy. But let's listen to this. 305 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 6: A new poll finds growing share of them. Sixty five 306 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 6: percent now say gender is determined by the sex assigned 307 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 6: at birth, but among Trump supporters that number jumps exponentially 308 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 6: to ninety percent. Only nine percent disagree. Among Biden supporters, 309 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 6: fifty nine percent say gender can be different from sex 310 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 6: at birth. 311 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: The Party of Science, Buck, fifty nine percent of Democrats 312 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: believe that your gender can be different than the gender 313 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: that you're born with. 314 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: Yes, also, though, as an assign who are the ten 315 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: percent of Trump voters? 316 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: It's a great question. 317 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: Did you catch that For a second there, I'm like, wait, 318 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: that number needs to be ninety nine percent, meaning just 319 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: there's a statistical variance in the one percent that they 320 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: can't account for, Like there's no way who votes for 321 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: Trump and thinks that your gender can be different from 322 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: what I think. 323 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 4: The way it is being questioned is confusing, because I 324 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: do think there's people who say, okay, if it makes 325 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: you happier to pretend that you're a different gender. I 326 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: think that's probably the ten percent. 327 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: But you had to talk me down from being even 328 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: more like just flipping out about this, because the number 329 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: is actually trending in the right direction now. The same 330 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: poll question in twenty seventeen, what you told me was 331 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: fifty three. 332 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: Percent, Yeah, jo if that sounds bad, sixty five, thirty five. 333 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: Back in September of twenty seventeen, only fifty three percent 334 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 4: of people agree we're not done and we're not even 335 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: close to winning until this is a ninety ten issue 336 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: across the board, and then a ninety nine percent issue. 337 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: Because the truth is the. 338 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 4: Truth, Amen, And I think that's why it's so significant 339 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: of a battle to be fighting, because if they can 340 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: get you to lie about that, then get you to 341 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: lie about an awful lot of things, or at least 342 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: be afraid to say what you believe and know to 343 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 4: be true. Chalk speaking of being know and see to 344 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: be true. Biden didn't have a good trip to Normandy, didn't. 345 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: Go well for him. 346 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: Tried to sit down when he didn't need to. I 347 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: don't know if you saw the video of him like 348 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: standing by his car. He had no idea where he was. 349 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 4: Lowest testosterone administration in American history, at least in any 350 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: of our lives. They need chalk badly. SHOQ, get hooked up. 351 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: That's the promo code. Use my nameplay you get the 352 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: best possible subscriber offer and you can dial the phone 353 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 4: number right now. Five zero CCHOQ three thousand. That's five 354 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: zero C CHOQ three thousand. Don't be like Biden. Put 355 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: some testosterone back in your life with chalk. 356 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: Welcome back in. We just got this clip sent in 357 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: by our team here. It's from I was talking at 358 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: MSNBC before. To be fair, Clay, I do not watch 359 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: the primetime lineup. I just will see what the marching 360 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: orders are for morning Joe sometimes in the morning for 361 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the elite and defeat communists out there. 362 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: I do what I can to make sure that I'm 363 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: up on their latest machinations. I don't watch Primetime though, 364 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know much about Joy Reid Show these days. 365 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: I will say that this clip was one of those 366 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: moments on MSNBC where I am saying, Wow, Joy Reid 367 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: called Missouri today quote a slave state as far as 368 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: being a woman is concerned, end quote. 369 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: Play this in. 370 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 7: Your state, it's illegal for a pregnant woman to get 371 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 7: an abortion. So they've also gone after no fault divorce. 372 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 7: So if you're a pregnant and you're in a marriage 373 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 7: with an abusive spouse, you can't even get a divorce. 374 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 7: Once you become pregnant, you become the property of both 375 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 7: your husband and the state. They have joint ownership of you. 376 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 7: In the state of Missouri. That is a slave state 377 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 7: as far as being a woman is concerned. 378 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, this is I mean, just 379 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 2: next level insane. 380 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: And don't miss this because I think it's important for 381 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: us to play this because some of you have teenage daughters, 382 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 4: some of you have young twenty thirty something women. In particular, 383 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: this is their move buck, this is what they are 384 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: going to have to do. They're already running ads in 385 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: where they had an Alabama. We played it for you 386 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: because I think it's important for you to know what's 387 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: circulating out there and what gets popular on social media. 388 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom shared a video of an Alabama state trooper 389 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: pulling over a woman in the state of Alabama and 390 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: demanding that she take a pregnancy test in front of 391 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 4: him before she left the state. Now, joy Read is 392 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: saying something that is one billion percent not true. I 393 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: don't know what the weak cutoff is in Missouri, but 394 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 4: I know that you are allowed to get an abortion there. Also, 395 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: your husband cannot hold you hostage as a slave. This 396 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 4: is crazy talk, but this is what they're going to 397 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 4: go to because the math is the math on presidential elections. 398 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 4: If Joe Biden doesn't get an overwhelming beyond measure majority 399 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: of unmarried women to vote for him, then the Democrat 400 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: Party has no chance to win the election. He has 401 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 4: to win these unmarried women sixty five, thirty five, seventy 402 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: to thirty eighty to twenty to even have a chance 403 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: to win the election. And so they are trying to 404 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: terrify women, many of whom are in Missouri right now 405 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: listening to us, and I bet don't feel as if 406 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: they are slaves. But this is what they are trying 407 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: to convince women of. And the reality is this, buck, 408 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: if you live in a Blue state, you actually have 409 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: more access to abortion than you did before Roe v. 410 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: Wade was overturned because the Trump perspective. And you can 411 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 4: disagree with that, you can be upset by that. That's 412 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: a reality. What happened was when Roe v. Wade got overturned, 413 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 4: and I think people are just now starting to understand it. 414 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 4: Every state got the right to decide what the abortion 415 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: law should be in their state. Red states restricted abortion 416 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: more than Roe v Wade did. As a general rule, 417 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: Blue states often gave more abortion rights than Roe v. 418 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: Wade did. 419 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: And it's important for women to understand what the law is. 420 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 4: Vote however you think is important, but don't allow yourself 421 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: to be terrified and fear driven outside of the logical 422 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 4: realm of even understanding what the law is. Which is 423 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: what's going to become the clarion call of the Democrat Party. 424 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: Again because they don't have results to point to. That's right, 425 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: things they have done well that can become really the 426 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Biden campaign. If I were being paid to tell everyone 427 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: about all the great things that Biden had accomplished. I 428 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: would find that to be a very difficult job. Apart 429 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: from the moral considerations of, you know, supporting this regime. 430 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: I just mean, I don't know that I could make 431 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: a coherent case for how Joe Biden has been good 432 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: for the United States other than just to say, you know, 433 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: not everything is terrible. So I guess he's not that awful. 434 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 4: You know, Democrats try to claim all the time that 435 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: reparations is necessary because of the unique awfulness of slavery. 436 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: Yet they sure are quick to compare things that are 437 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: not remotely close to slavery to slavery. 438 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: Aren't they? 439 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: Remember when Colin Kaepernick said that the NFL draft was 440 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 4: the equivalent of a modern day slave auction. They aired 441 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: that on Netflix. That was kind of the end of 442 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 4: Kaepernick's influence for those of you who didn't see that. 443 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: They took a NFL draft where you walk Out's true, 444 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 4: you do get measured. They did all your financial We 445 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: were talking about this yesterday. 446 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Buck. 447 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: How many times can you bench press two hundred and 448 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: twenty five pounds? And if you do all those physical 449 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: traits really, well, guess what you get? Millions of dollars? 450 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 4: Colin Kaepernick said that's modern day slavery. And now Joy 451 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: Reid is saying women in Missouri are slaves. 452 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: Does any woman. 453 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: Actually feel like she's a slave in Missouri? And if 454 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: slavery is a uniquely awful American institution that demands that 455 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 4: reparations exist one hundred and sixty years after it ended, 456 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: is it comparing married women in Missouri to slaves actually 457 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: an insult to the legacy of slavery. I mean, again, 458 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: their logic doesn't add up. Joy Reid, I think is 459 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: a dumb person, even by MSNBC standards, Like I don't 460 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 4: agree with Rachel Maddow a lot of times. She's a 461 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 4: smart person. She is an intelligent woman. It doesn't surprise 462 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 4: me by Lawrence Lawrence. 463 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: Or Donald's tribe or whatever his name is. 464 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: I think, no Lawrence or Donald's talking about Now, you know, 465 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: he's he's not He's a he's a sharp guy, he's 466 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: a clever guy. He's just a smarmy jerk. But you know, 467 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: we don't just say, oh, you're a Democrat, You're done. 468 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: Clearly that's not true. When you're talking about these media figures, 469 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: there are some very very high cognition. You know, they're unwise, 470 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: but they do have fast firing brains and and and 471 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: they do function at a very high level. You know 472 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: that's not always the case. That we talked about the 473 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: view and how the view maybe the lowest cognition of 474 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: the political talk shows. But over at MSNBC, you know, 475 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: they really the only time I can ever think of. 476 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: And this came up because it was the guy who 477 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: did I was reminded of this because it was the 478 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: guy who sat down for the Diana interview. You know 479 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He was a journalist in with the b. Yeah, 480 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: he's a super famous guy in England. In guys to 481 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: remind me of his name. But he was fired from MSNBC. 482 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: You know that right, full well I didn't know that. 483 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh big time. Fired from MSNBC. 484 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: Andrew Andrew Morton wrote the. 485 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: Book No no not no, no no not Andrew Morton, uh 486 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: fired from MSNBC for what he said about Sarah Sarah 487 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: in reference to Sarah Palin Martin Basheer, Yes, Martin Basher, 488 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: he resigned. To be clear, he resigned from MSNBC because 489 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: he was about to get fired. I mean, do you 490 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: remember what he is? So he was a he was 491 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: a you know, a minority man anchor at MSNBC, and 492 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: for him to get fired he had to say something 493 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: basically so gross on television. 494 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't remember that story at all. What did he say? 495 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: This is twenty third twelve, you know, Clay, you know 496 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: some of us have been in the fight a long time. 497 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: This is back in twenty thirteen. He actually, I can't 498 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: really repeat what he said, like I can't find a 499 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: way to on air. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm 500 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: just saying that the uh it was a reference to 501 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: uh to the scatalog less scatological. I'm trying to think 502 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: of the best way to say this, and it involves 503 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: Sarah Palin and it was terrible. Anyway, the outer boundaries 504 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: for what you can get away with saying on MSNBC 505 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: if you are a minority TV host are extreme, But 506 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: there are some things. Someone just got fired from the Hill. 507 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: Someone just got fired from the Hill. What's your show 508 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: on that used to be a Hill? I started that show. 509 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: I started Rising at the Hill. It was Crystal Ball 510 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton. Uh uh And I started that show 511 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: and uh it, you know, became its own kind of phenomenon, 512 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: and it grew and you know whatever. She was interviewing 513 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: the sister of an Israeli hostage, and at least the 514 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Daily Mail says that, and she Brianna Joy Gray's her name. 515 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: She's a female, she's a black female. I think contributor. 516 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't think she was. I think she was like 517 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: a rotating host. And she rolled her eyes at the 518 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: plea from the sister of a Israeli hostage to please 519 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: believe the women who tell you that they have been 520 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: abused in captivity. She like rolled their eyes and was 521 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: dismissive about it, and they fired her. So there are limits. 522 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm just saying there are limits, like you know, Joy Reid. 523 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying she's crossed those limits, but there are limits. 524 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 525 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't know this woman at all. 526 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 4: In general, I don't like the idea of firing anyone 527 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: for any one thing. That's probably not a surprise to 528 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: you guys. We talked for three hours every day so far, 529 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: we've done three years, and I don't think we've ever 530 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: had to apologize for anything that we really screwed up 531 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: on the show. I don't think I've ever apologized for 532 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: anything in my career, not to say I might not 533 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: say something stupid. At some point that might not come 534 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: out wrong, but I just I think the whole idea 535 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: of ritualized apology is ridiculous. I don't like the idea 536 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: of media organizations firing someone. 537 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: For one screw up. In my op. 538 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: Now, she may have been awful for a while. I 539 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 4: don't know anything about this woman at all, so I'm 540 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 4: not analyzing her career. That sounds awful, and I think 541 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 4: she deserves to be ridiculed for it. And unfortunately, it's 542 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: all too common on the left right now to not 543 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: be willing to support the idea that there were mass 544 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: atrocities committed against the Jewish people on October seventh, But 545 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: firing somebody for any one thing that they do in 546 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: an interview or what they say any one time, I 547 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: would look at the body of the life. 548 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: I had a CNN colleague when I was a CNN 549 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: contributor who was fired from CNN very publicly because he 550 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: said in a public speech somewhere from the I mean, 551 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: this is all on the internet and everything was from 552 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the river to the sea. So he said what some 553 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: of these kids on campus are saying. And CNN fired 554 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: him over that, and you know, he was he was 555 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: a blackmail Democrat commentator, and it's just you know, I'm 556 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: just saying, there are there are limits you can say 557 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: crazy stuff like Missouri is the equivalent of a slave 558 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: state for women, and they're going to keep you know, 559 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: you're they're going to keep your job and and even 560 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: back you up on that. But sometimes sometimes the invincibility 561 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: of some of these TV presenters, they push it too far. 562 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: Well. 563 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 4: This is also and I think this is a big conversation, 564 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: but we've talked about this. This is also why speech 565 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: code's on campus, even if they're being designed to protect 566 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: something you like, is not a good thing to support 567 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: in general, because in general, the rules are going to 568 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: be applied more harshly against conservatives than they are liberals. 569 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: So you can cheer because one person gets fired, but 570 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: it might lead to ten people on your side getting 571 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 4: fired because they're trying to apply the same rules. 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It is Friday, weighing, waiting 611 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: to weigh in. Let's take some of those calls. Bobby 612 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: in Ledo Beach, Florida, what you got for us? 613 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 9: It's Ledo Beach, New York, home of Anthony Dsposito, one 614 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 9: of the congressmen that gave the Republic as a majority. 615 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 9: I'm a huge Trump fan. But I think all you 616 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 9: guys are missing the mock on this vice presidential pick. 617 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 9: I really do. It's got to be a governor, and 618 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 9: I love Dub Bargham. I'd like to know more about him, 619 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 9: But the pick is Ron DeSantis. You guys were just 620 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 9: talking about it early, the best governor country. He's going 621 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 9: to be out of work in two years. He picks 622 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 9: battles and he wins them. The personality classes with Trump, 623 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 9: I think is miniscule. Look what Biden has done to 624 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 9: the Trump agenda in these short years. 625 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'll tell you I think the biggest problem. First 626 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: of all, I don't think I don't think, if I 627 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: may say so, sir, I don't think you're a bigger 628 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: fan of Rond de Santis than either of us or 629 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: in terms of his records. So I think we're all 630 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: in agreement on that, and I think you were speaking 631 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: to that. The biggest There are two problems. One is 632 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: there from the same state. That could be dealt with, 633 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: though Trump would have to claim residency in New Jersey. 634 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: I think there's a work or well, I'd probably go 635 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: with New Jersey if I were him. There's a work around, 636 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: but that would have to be dealt with. The bigger 637 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: problem is I know the people in DeSantis's orbit pretty well. 638 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't think rond de Santas would take the job. 639 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you'd want to be VP. I think 640 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: you want to finish out his term as governor. I 641 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I don't. 642 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: Think I am. 643 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: I think that's that would be the dream team from 644 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: the get go. Trump does not want to leave Florida. 645 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: There's been talk about Marco Rubio, that Rubio would relocate. 646 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 4: Here's what I would say. And if you love the 647 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: idea of that Trump to Santis ticket, I understand, are 648 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: do you really want I would just ask this question, 649 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: do you really want to give Democrats an opportunity to 650 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 4: try to challenge two people from the same state. I'm 651 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: just a little bit nervous about that. Now, maybe Marco 652 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 4: Rubio can move to Wyoming like Dick Cheney did, And 653 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 4: it's way easier to get residency in some states than others. 654 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 4: There's no way that New York, which is trying to 655 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: put Trump in prison, or New Jersey, which has got 656 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 4: crazy left wing leadership, would ever allow Trump to be 657 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: a resident of those states. So my ideal situation I 658 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 4: love more Rubio. I think he's done a really good job. 659 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 4: I love DeSantis. I think he's the best governor in America. 660 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: Two guys from the same state, Byron Donald's has the 661 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 4: same issue. I just don't like the idea of doing 662 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 4: anything that could put up a roadblock that Democrats could exploit. 663 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 4: I mean, they already tried to take Trump off the 664 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 4: freaking ballot in Colorado and Maine. Do you really think 665 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 4: that they're going to easily relinquish on two potential Floridians, 666 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 4: one of whom has to find a new state to 667 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 4: be a resident of. Do you really think that they're 668 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: going to be like, oh, there's no issue there at all. 669 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: I would just there's a reason that Ron's not even 670 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: being talked about in this context, and that's coming from 671 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: two people who I think agree he's the foremost Republican 672 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: governor in America. Although you know, I think Youngkin's very good. 673 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a few very You've got a 674 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: bunch of very good governors. Your governor's pretty solid. 675 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 4: Billy's a good dude. In Tennessee. I think we had 676 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,479 Speaker 4: Greg Abott on earlier this week. He's I know, people 677 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: get mad at him for other things. He wasn't good 678 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: on COVID, but he's good on the border. But if 679 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 4: you were Trump and you were just saying, hey, I'm 680 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 4: going to make the border the number one issue in America, 681 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: you could look at Abbott. If you were Trump and 682 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: you said, as we said earlier, dead heat in Virginia, 683 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 4: if you really thought you could win Virginia. Could Glenn 684 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 4: Youngkin deliver two or three points to Trump in Virginia. 685 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 4: If he could, the race is over again. This is 686 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 4: part of the calculus Trump has to put into equation. 687 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 4: I think Glenn Younkin could definitely be Caitlyn Clark in 688 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: one on one. He played ball at Rice, and I 689 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 4: think he's like six ' six, so that's tough. I'm 690 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: just saying. We talked to about his basketball career with 691 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 4: him when we had him on most recently. 692 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: You think you could beat it right now? This age? 693 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: How is he? I think he's in. 694 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: Fifty Yeah, dude, fifty five year old guys played basketball. Man, 695 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: They put on that headband, they box out, they throw elbows. 696 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: You don't want to mess with fifty five year old 697 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 1: guys on the court. 698 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: They're veterans.