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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know

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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and with me is always

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Speaker 1: this Charles W. Chuck and Bryant. Uh. He's given me

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Speaker 1: the A O K symbols, So we're all set to go.

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Speaker 1: Let me have a bowlful of dinosaurs in front of us.

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Speaker 1: Pants are off? Pants are off? Mike's are on? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that should be our motto, all of them should be.

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Speaker 1: That's just great on a T shirt. But um, the

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Speaker 1: the all of our open wounds have been treated according

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Speaker 1: to the stuff by step process included in this article. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you read that sidebar? It's gruesome. Yeah, And you

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Speaker 1: know what this is like. This kind of thing can

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Speaker 1: strike fear into you when it's in the news, which

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Speaker 1: it has been lately in Georgia and nationwide. But um,

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Speaker 1: don't freak out and don't start slathering yourself with antibacterial

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Speaker 1: gel and um. To the writer's credit, it is pointed

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Speaker 1: out in this article it's like five cases of this

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Speaker 1: still even in the US now and like maybe and Dora,

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Speaker 1: that'd be huge yea. Um, but chuck, after researching this

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Speaker 1: plushaming bacteria scares out of you exactly. Yeah, we can't

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Speaker 1: beep any longer. It's sad you just did. Man, you

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Speaker 1: um silent and it can the silent killer, it can

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Speaker 1: because she survived obviously. But yeah, people, I was reading

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Speaker 1: an article about her and she's just like tough as nails.

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Speaker 1: They said, like, we're gonna have to amputate your leg,

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Speaker 1: and she said, like, let's do this. That's what she said.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't even talk. She mouthed it far braver than me.

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Speaker 1: she wouldn't plug me right. Yeah, I heard now that

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Speaker 1: out at doctor just for fun. Alright, so we'll get

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Speaker 1: to her tragic but inspiring story, okay, um, I was

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Speaker 1: going to use her as an intro. Go ahead, then,

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Speaker 1: all right, so I get to it right now, Amy Copeland.

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Speaker 1: She's Um twenty four. She's a Georgia lady, um, and

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Speaker 1: like a raveni creak over some brackish water. And in

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Speaker 1: brackish water, actually in all fresh water, there is a

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Speaker 1: bacteria called aromonous hydrophilia or a hydrophilia, and it's everywhere. Normally,

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Speaker 1: The thing is with Amy Copeland, she had a gash

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Speaker 1: host of problems. Exactly. Your body is not used to

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Speaker 1: necrotizing fasciitists, which means the killing of fascia. Fascia is

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Speaker 1: a shrunken head. It looked very real, so the first

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Speaker 1: question I asked was is it real? No, it's not,

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Speaker 1: she said, but added, if you really want a genuine head,

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Speaker 1: I'll bring one next time. Needless to say, I decline,

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Speaker 1: which was a big mistaken. The original head is still

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Speaker 1: hanging behind the bar of a pub on the west

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Speaker 1: coast of uh CEO dot Claire. Is that county County Claire?

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Speaker 1: All right, that's what they do in Ireland, CEO and

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Speaker 1: that is from Mike keys uh. And then Judy and

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Speaker 1: Glenn are the dogs. He named his dogs Judy and

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Speaker 1: Glenn ver I know. And he's just marching around Ireland.

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Speaker 1: Let's and THENTO us also with the shrunken head around

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Speaker 1: his neck. I guess we'll keep marching Glenn and Judy

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Speaker 1: and Mike is the human Mike human. Thank you very

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