Speaker 1: R and B Money than take vologized. We are the.
Speaker 2: Authorities R and.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: I'm Jay Valentine and this is the R and B
Speaker 2: Money Podcast. And today I got somebody very special that
Speaker 2: pulled up on me, you know, some real singing in
Speaker 2: the building.
Speaker 1: And she gonna talk to us about it today.
Speaker 2: And she, you know, she may even sing for us
Speaker 2: and may get a little addictive to us, but the
Speaker 2: soul is here today, and you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to talk a lot about it. I want to get
Speaker 2: into it. Today we have a singer, songwriter and actress,
Speaker 2: the amazing fresh from overseas. I think truth hurts. I
Speaker 2: think you know, I love it.
Speaker 1: Be close, you could be far out here. A lot
Speaker 1: of different things, a lot of true things. Today. That's
Speaker 1: what that's what we're gonna stand on. Today. We're gonna
Speaker 1: say how are you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm great, how are you good?
Speaker 1: To see you? Good to see you?
Speaker 3: And meets you. I should have met you by now.
Speaker 2: Actually I'll be hiding sometimes I don't always be going places.
Speaker 2: They I should wear a little thing like on the top,
Speaker 2: like me up a little bit too so a little
Speaker 2: bit it works. Yeah, that's that's that's your thing.
Speaker 3: That's my thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So yeah, so what's what's going on with you? Man?
Speaker 3: So much, so much, so much, I mean.
Speaker 4: Besides being human the truth mother. I'm back in La.
Speaker 4: I'm no longer overseas. I was overseas. I was in
Speaker 4: v in Austria for a while. I was married four
Speaker 4: years and I'm back to La now. So I'm on
Speaker 4: l a time. I'm developing a new project, a rebrand
Speaker 4: that I'm really excited about.
Speaker 3: But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know here on the R and B
Speaker 2: Money podcast, we like to we like to go through
Speaker 2: the journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We like to go back to you know, where people
Speaker 2: are from. And man, I love what y'all are doing.
Speaker 2: By the way, thank you, thank you great. You know,
Speaker 2: so we want to start in the loop. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's how you feel about the loop?
Speaker 4: No, you know what I'm saying that because I lost
Speaker 4: my mother last year and I had to go back home.
Speaker 4: I had to do the due diligence of you know,
Speaker 4: losing a parent. It was tough and I and I
Speaker 4: got to attribute that to transformation for me because I
Speaker 4: had to dig real deep for that grief. I hadn't
Speaker 4: had anybody I lost in my life that caused me
Speaker 4: to go that deep with grief. And I know everybody
Speaker 4: knows about it to some degree if they lost somebody
Speaker 4: who was really really close, especially a mother. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: I think the grief was what, like really really was
Speaker 4: the catalyst to transform me into who I believe I
Speaker 4: am now.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so let's let's go back to little truth,
Speaker 2: Little truth, Little truth. That's way back Saint Louis. Like,
Speaker 2: so for you, what was your upbringing like as far
Speaker 2: as from a musical standpoint and you getting into this thing.
Speaker 4: Well, my father was probably the first inspiration for that.
Speaker 4: He was a local promoter in Saint Louis. He brought
Speaker 4: a lot of different acts back in the day to
Speaker 4: smaller theaters in Saint Louis, which was people Bryson, the
Speaker 4: Pointer Sisters. I remember growing up Philis Symon. Uh. There
Speaker 4: were so many people and my eyes were just big, like,
Speaker 4: oh my.
Speaker 1: Gosh, look at this. So did he have a venue
Speaker 1: there too, like a club?
Speaker 3: You know, there was always a different venue he was.
Speaker 3: He was just doing promotion.
Speaker 4: Like so if you want to do a show, you
Speaker 4: bring an artist to town, you find the venue for
Speaker 4: that artist.
Speaker 3: That's what he was doing.
Speaker 1: Yea, my dad did a little really a promotion.
Speaker 3: Okay, see you know what it is.
Speaker 1: He was trying to clean some things.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's a different conversation.
Speaker 2: But you know, shout out to the dads. Man brought
Speaker 2: them to the baby. Yeah Brown some years before I
Speaker 2: was born, Like yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: He was moving, wow moving.
Speaker 2: So then you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that that brought about the uh influence on
Speaker 4: my life when it comes to music and when it
Speaker 4: comes to performance really, because I feel like I was
Speaker 4: more affected by performance than just music. What I saw
Speaker 4: back then in those theaters and I was just like wow, I.
Speaker 3: Couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4: So I think it kind of catapulted me into wanting
Speaker 4: to know more about what performance, singing, all those things.
Speaker 3: But I feel like I.
Speaker 4: Didn't have the voice that a lot of people grow
Speaker 4: up in the church and they're singing organically.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I decided at some point, maybe like eleven.
Speaker 4: Or twelve, that I was like, yo, this this is
Speaker 4: who I want to be, and I don't know how
Speaker 4: to do it, and so my mother was like, okay,
Speaker 4: well let's let's let's get some lessons. So she got
Speaker 4: me into more operatic and classical training, okay, and that
Speaker 4: was why I learned.
Speaker 1: Now, Yes, I was singing in my head.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's why.
Speaker 1: That was the start.
Speaker 3: So for me, like, it was more technical from the beginning.
Speaker 2: So was it boring for you as an eleven year
Speaker 2: old learning technique more so than just yes out and
Speaker 2: just you know, listening to the radio and singing out
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 3: Yes and no.
Speaker 4: Because I had a private coach who I liked and
Speaker 4: he made it fun, okay. And then from there I
Speaker 4: started doing things in high school like musicals, and so
Speaker 4: I got the the the background of show and opera
Speaker 4: and all of those things that are more technical than
Speaker 4: actual R and B and all of the things that
Speaker 4: we do now in the music industry.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 4: I got the training to do. I know I should
Speaker 4: have done Broadway by now, but but I got that
Speaker 4: kind of training back then.
Speaker 1: So you were you were full high school musical.
Speaker 3: Full high school musical.
Speaker 1: Did you go to a school of the arts.
Speaker 4: I didn't, but the school that I was in supported
Speaker 4: arts heavily. Okay, so that's all I did.
Speaker 2: When you were doing that in school? Did you foresee
Speaker 2: any of this, like, did you look at it like this?
Speaker 2: These are my goals. I'm trying to get to LA
Speaker 2: or Hollywood or New York or these places so that
Speaker 2: I can all right Atlanta at the time.
Speaker 4: Likely, No, Initially I didn't even think about it like that.
Speaker 4: I just I thought about just what I saw. And
Speaker 4: then that's when I became a real deep and chronic
Speaker 4: Prince fan. That was my first concert, and when I
Speaker 4: saw him on stage, I was like, that's it, certified.
Speaker 3: I love performance.
Speaker 1: I grew up in I grew up in the Prince House.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, my room was purple. Always my hair
Speaker 4: like his hair.
Speaker 3: I got my ass kicked.
Speaker 2: Outside like my brothers and sisters, like my mama. Didn't
Speaker 2: talk to nobody that wasn't dark skinned really other than
Speaker 2: loving Prince and loving her kids, like.
Speaker 1: If you was, she's like these light skins's school. But
Speaker 1: Prince Prince, I don't know. Prince just wasn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he was to her. He just wasn't.
Speaker 3: Prince was an alien, Yes, he was some even like.
Speaker 1: Light skinned men really only Prince.
Speaker 3: Only Prince makes sense.
Speaker 1: Only Prince.
Speaker 2: So in our household, it was you know, it's funny
Speaker 2: because her two favorite artists were prints in ice cube, which.
Speaker 3: Is complete opposite, complete opposite.
Speaker 2: So all right, so you get through high school, you're
Speaker 2: doing your musical thing.
Speaker 1: When do you get here? Like, what's the what's the
Speaker 1: process of getting to la the bank?
Speaker 4: Okay, A lot of my my family, my extended family
Speaker 4: on my father's side there in the bank, his sister
Speaker 4: and some other relatives. He decided he wanted to, Like
Speaker 4: my father did a short stant in prison for being genius.
Speaker 3: We won't go onto that.
Speaker 4: Hey, no, listen, back in the day, my father was
Speaker 4: the one that was chipping the free phones. Bought one
Speaker 4: from him and look, and the fans wanted him to
Speaker 4: work for him, and he's like no, my father is
Speaker 4: very powered to the people, and so he's.
Speaker 1: Like, no, I had the phone when I was fifteen.
Speaker 3: Okay, well then you might you might have had one
Speaker 3: of my dad's more.
Speaker 1: I paid last for three months.
Speaker 3: Listen, listen.
Speaker 4: That's how I met a lot of the rappers back
Speaker 4: in the day. It wasn't because of the music. It
Speaker 4: was because of that but we won't go into that.
Speaker 4: But that was how I ended up in San Jose.
Speaker 4: My dad got out and he was like he spent
Speaker 4: like two years and then he was like, oh, we're
Speaker 4: gonna move to Cali, and so we were. We were
Speaker 4: moving to San Jose and I ended up going to
Speaker 4: college in Sano. I had a full ride to you
Speaker 4: of Chicago music here, but I had to go with
Speaker 4: my parents because I was too young, and they were like, yeah, you,
Speaker 4: we're not going to leave you in the Midwest, and
Speaker 4: we go, you know, to the West. So I ended
Speaker 4: up going with the family and I ended up in
Speaker 4: San Jose State.
Speaker 1: So you a spark to some degree. I mean I.
Speaker 4: Met I met someone there who was as much in
Speaker 4: the music as I was, and we ended up moving
Speaker 4: to l A.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, so you're moving to LA as singer.
Speaker 3: Singer singer singer.
Speaker 4: At the time, I mean, we wrote what we what
Speaker 4: we were trying to present.
Speaker 3: We were looking for a deal.
Speaker 4: We were a two girl group, rappers, singer, and we
Speaker 4: moved to LA trying to get a deal. We were
Speaker 4: like living from an apartment to apartment. We were really
Speaker 4: young and stupid. It was us too and her sister. Okay,
Speaker 4: and we ended up getting a situation where we were
Speaker 4: able to perform for Cassandra Mills at Giant. So we
Speaker 4: were on top of her desk performing doing the bulls
Speaker 4: like we were.
Speaker 3: We were all over the place. Were just we were
Speaker 3: just trying to win.
Speaker 4: We were trying to get in where were fit in right,
Speaker 4: and so we got we ended up getting the deal.
Speaker 3: So we signed a Giant. We signed a Giant. That
Speaker 3: was around the time that what was the group name?
Speaker 4: It was three Girls. It was three Girl, a three
Speaker 4: girl group back then. That was on the label as well.
Speaker 1: That was on Giant.
Speaker 3: Huh. I want to say, yeah, yeah, this was like
Speaker 3: early nineties.
Speaker 2: Okay, so before okay, So so tell me this though,
Speaker 2: because we're jumping to certain things I know, but no, no,
Speaker 2: but I because I liked it for people.
Speaker 1: To understand the process and the journey. When you guys
Speaker 1: get to la are y'all working regular jobs nine to five, Yes,
Speaker 1: just focusing on music.
Speaker 4: But we also have parents sending us money, gave us
Speaker 4: the car to drive down, helped us with the down payment.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the parent you know.
Speaker 4: We had We had the help that we needed because
Speaker 4: our parents were very much, you know, into the whole
Speaker 4: music scene like their their parents their their dad was
Speaker 4: a DJ, and my dad was into the music thing.
Speaker 4: So they were supporting our journey, so to speak. So
Speaker 4: we didn't have to do too much work, but we did.
Speaker 4: We did have like small job.
Speaker 2: How long did it take to get the deal from
Speaker 2: six months?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like when I tell you we were the desk, we're thirsty.
Speaker 3: We then we had to.
Speaker 1: Do So did that project come out?
Speaker 4: It did, but only a single came out and ironically,
Speaker 4: our first video and only video was directed by Jada
Speaker 4: Pinkett at the time.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, she was directing video?
Speaker 4: She back then, she was she was young and just
Speaker 4: trying to like produce and direct.
Speaker 1: Is this video available because I d you can?
Speaker 3: You can YouTube this?
Speaker 1: And what's the name of the group?
Speaker 3: The name of the group of Sugar Dap.
Speaker 1: Sugar Dap And you were Sugar? You were that?
Speaker 2: I was Sugar, Okay, because you're a singer, So sure, okay,
Speaker 2: sugar name my real name is Sherry Sugar.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know I'm trying to make the reference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, And what type of music were y'all doing?
Speaker 4: She's a rapper, she was a rapper. I was a singer.
Speaker 4: So what was it like? R and B, R and
Speaker 4: B hip hop?
Speaker 1: Okay, hip hop?
Speaker 4: More R and B based, I feel. We had a
Speaker 4: We had a song called dark and very sweetish Juice.
Speaker 4: We had a song Just Another Man.
Speaker 3: That was the video. The video was called just Another.
Speaker 1: Just Another Man. Oh yeah, we got to run that up.
Speaker 3: You got listen when you get a chance.
Speaker 1: And did you did you write this record too? Yes,
Speaker 1: so you were already writing.
Speaker 3: I was already writing that music and everything.
Speaker 1: When did that start for you ninety two where you
Speaker 1: started writing your own songs? Yeah, so before when you're
Speaker 1: high school, you're not writing anything.
Speaker 4: No. I had my little poetry book from the time
Speaker 4: I was taught where I was writing, and I thought
Speaker 4: I was writing songs, but it was more poetry than songs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: I never liked changed them into melody. It was just
Speaker 4: stuff that I was writing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how long were you guys on Giant? You
Speaker 1: said you had a single two years?
Speaker 3: Three years?
Speaker 1: So three years one single?
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: See that's the part of music business that nobody really
Speaker 2: talks about, right, especially in this new day, right people
Speaker 2: are just I was I was going over a deal
Speaker 2: the other day and I was looking at the like
Speaker 2: some of the time terms of timeline and when.
Speaker 1: This needs to be released.
Speaker 2: And I get it that people want to come out
Speaker 2: faster and they want to you know, nobody wants to
Speaker 2: sell on the show.
Speaker 1: But the truth for matters sometimes you're not ready.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you're not ready.
Speaker 1: Sometimes, you know what I mean? In the oven a
Speaker 1: little longer?
Speaker 3: And why do you think you're not ready?
Speaker 1: You said, why do I think?
Speaker 3: So? Why do you believe that people aren't ready?
Speaker 2: Sometimes they can't even just sit and have a discussion.
Speaker 2: They're not media trained, they haven't found their sound. Maybe
Speaker 2: the climbing is not right for their music, depending on
Speaker 2: what type of music you're making. So there could be
Speaker 2: a multitude of reasons why.
Speaker 1: But I personally believe that when you know, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're prepared, you know, because.
Speaker 2: Once a record comes out, good or bad, that's your song,
Speaker 2: and now these people want to see you entertain them. Right,
Speaker 2: So if you can't sing without that backing track, you're
Speaker 2: not ready, that's my.
Speaker 1: Opinion, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If you can't perform the same way in front of
Speaker 2: five people, it's five thousand people, you're.
Speaker 1: Not ready right right?
Speaker 2: So you know, you know, when I see these you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, when I see these new terms and
Speaker 2: different things that are in deals now that are oh
Speaker 2: in ninety days after we finished this, the album should
Speaker 2: be dropped, right should it?
Speaker 3: No, it shouldn't.
Speaker 4: I mean the excitement is there for the artists because
Speaker 4: you have a dream, right, you have a dream, and
Speaker 4: you feel like your dream is more important than anything
Speaker 4: else that matters the scheme of things, and not realizing
Speaker 4: it's a business. And my father taught me really that
Speaker 4: if I wanted to get into music, I need to
Speaker 4: get into business, and he gave me the book to read,
Speaker 4: This Business of Music. Of course I didn't fully read
Speaker 4: that book. Who does, because when you're creative, you're just
Speaker 4: a creative. But when I tell you, I was a
Speaker 4: year ago, years old when it occurred to me that
Speaker 4: I had not found my voice until most recently. And
Speaker 4: that's why people tell you to relax and wait and
Speaker 4: figure out who you are before you decide to be
Speaker 4: an artist, because that's why we have so much of
Speaker 4: what we have out there today. And there are no
Speaker 4: more prints, no more Michael, no more of the essential
Speaker 4: thing that it takes to change people's lives where people
Speaker 4: look up to that artist that understands so much who
Speaker 4: they are and so in tune to who they are musically,
Speaker 4: creatively as a human being, what their purpose is. When
Speaker 4: you understand all of those things, then you can really
Speaker 4: relate to an audience. Then you can really give to
Speaker 4: an audience who you essentially are so that they can
Speaker 4: buy into it, because until then they really don't understand
Speaker 4: who you are. Like I have a single, I have
Speaker 4: one of the most powerful singles in the world that
Speaker 4: to this day is still rotating to this day like
Speaker 4: it came out yesterday. Problem is, you could have a
Speaker 4: single that does all of that, you have to attach
Speaker 4: it to a situation where you are so one thousand
Speaker 4: percent you as an artist. You have something to give
Speaker 4: with that single and persona and belief system and purpose
Speaker 4: and destiny and because you carry a message with that.
Speaker 3: And back before.
Speaker 4: I met Dre, my god sister used to say to
Speaker 4: me all the time, she quoted a scripture to me
Speaker 4: all the time that I didn't really understand until recently.
Speaker 4: I didn't understand the full brunt of it till till recently.
Speaker 4: She used to say, And you probably know the scripture.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get scripture right because he grew up
Speaker 3: in church.
Speaker 4: No, but it's one of those It's one of those
Speaker 4: that's just so loud because.
Speaker 1: I just know that the people that watch.
Speaker 4: Show seek you first, the Kingdom of God and all
Speaker 4: this righteousness, and this shall be added onto you.
Speaker 1: And I've heard it.
Speaker 3: You've heard it.
Speaker 1: Heard, yes, I've heard.
Speaker 3: Well, you're like me.
Speaker 4: I went through several years like or what does she
Speaker 4: mean by what does that mean? In other terminology that
Speaker 4: may not understand the church and understand the scripture?
Speaker 1: And what is the scripture? Again?
Speaker 4: You said, seek you first, the Kingdom of God and
Speaker 4: all this righteousness and all these things should be added
Speaker 4: on to you.
Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of people don't know what that means.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what it meant like as it pertained
Speaker 4: to me until recently. I was like, at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, what that is is what is your purpose?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 3: What is your destiny?
Speaker 4: What are you doing on this earth that God gave
Speaker 4: you a gift to do besides sing and perform and entertain.
Speaker 3: What is it that you have to offer.
Speaker 4: People in need of something to make them feel like
Speaker 4: whatever feel like living longer, feel like pursuing a dream,
Speaker 4: feel inspired, feel encouraged, feel like getting up in the
Speaker 4: morning when they feel like dying. What is it about
Speaker 4: you and what you do that offers people that in
Speaker 4: your art and whatever it is that you're doing. And
Speaker 4: when I tell you that changed the whole trajectory and
Speaker 4: meaning of who I was when I finally woke up
Speaker 4: to it, and who I wanted to be and what
Speaker 4: I found out about myself. And it only takes a
Speaker 4: little quiet time. It only takes like really just kind
Speaker 4: of stealing away from everybody and everything, the industry, the
Speaker 4: thoughts of other people, the opinions of other people, all
Speaker 4: of the noise that happens in Hollywood. It only takes
Speaker 4: a moment for you to go and sit down with
Speaker 4: yourself and your own thoughts and find out who you are.
Speaker 4: And I didn't actually do that, and you start that
Speaker 4: until well after I got divorced, after certain life shit
Speaker 4: happened to me.
Speaker 3: It didn't it didn't register. So I had all these things.
Speaker 4: I had, you know, had a song, I had, you know,
Speaker 4: the relationship with all the dynamic people in the industry,
Speaker 4: all of the things. But I really wasn't prepared to
Speaker 4: deal with any of that. And so to go back
Speaker 4: to what you were saying, when you say an artist
Speaker 4: is not ready or a project is not ready, that's
Speaker 4: what that really means. A lot of these artists out here,
Speaker 4: they're just they're doing music, and it's great music, and
Speaker 4: it's it's a lot of stuff floating around, But how
Speaker 4: memorable is it, how penetrating is it?
Speaker 3: We remember Prince and Michael because of that.
Speaker 1: What I've found lately is that it's becoming, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: for a nice portion of our artists, it's becoming just
Speaker 1: more of a hustle. Right, It's becoming more of a
Speaker 1: hustle because the steps are just a lot different than
Speaker 1: it used to be.
Speaker 2: Like you said, y'all had to go in an office,
Speaker 2: jump on a table, like really, get nobody saying.
Speaker 1: It was a video of Bobby s murder years ago.
Speaker 2: He went into the office and day were like that
Speaker 2: looks crazy, and I'm like, yeah, I've seen.
Speaker 1: So many artists do that.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't on video because they just wanted it
Speaker 2: so bad. Now it's like, I'm extra cool.
Speaker 1: I caught it called a little wave, I got a
Speaker 1: song and now I'm popping. Yeah, I'm not ready, and
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I can give you another one,
Speaker 1: or if I even.
Speaker 3: If I care, if I care to.
Speaker 2: So I think that is something that I've just noticed,
Speaker 2: and I just I feel like as I talk to
Speaker 2: more and more artists, I get excited when someone is
Speaker 2: actually well studied, when someone starts to tell me, like
Speaker 2: I watch videos.
Speaker 1: Of such and such and such and such.
Speaker 2: You know, I still read credits, like I find I
Speaker 2: find a way to know who wrote the songs, because
Speaker 2: it's not like you just buy.
Speaker 1: The album anymore and can open it up.
Speaker 2: So someone who actually cares to that point other than
Speaker 2: just you know, skip skip skip and going through the
Speaker 2: songs and whatever. When an artist tells me that, and
Speaker 2: then I can start finding I start for myself. I
Speaker 2: can start finding their inspirations and hearing them and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, you've been listening to Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: Now that makes sense.
Speaker 2: That you're creating You're trying to create this, you know,
Speaker 2: this super artist of yourself. Yeah, I would think, you know,
Speaker 2: yeah you are. So okay, let's get back to the
Speaker 2: music part. Let's get back to the music part. So
Speaker 2: you you guys that deal doesn't work out, do you
Speaker 2: do you stay together or do you immediately like, ah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Do my thing. I got pregnant, Okay, now we're having babies.
Speaker 2: I had a baby, which I would like you to
Speaker 2: talk about too in this business because.
Speaker 3: Said which grew me up.
Speaker 1: It's very different.
Speaker 2: From a man having a baby in the industry as
Speaker 2: an artist and a woman having a baby in the
Speaker 2: industry and what you can do, the things you don't.
Speaker 1: Have time to do anymore.
Speaker 4: Everything shifts, man, that just shifted recently. I always say
Speaker 4: when I when I talk to people, you know, when
Speaker 4: I see CARTI having multiple babies when songs at the
Speaker 4: same time, that was just like unheard of back and
Speaker 4: the day I couldn't do that, right, No, go get
Speaker 4: an abortion.
Speaker 2: We come fing a time where people didn't even say
Speaker 2: they had the kid or the baby was like you
Speaker 2: just didn't.
Speaker 4: Know, just to know, yeah you just didn't know, or
Speaker 4: it just wasn't allowed, or just yeah, don't do that period,
Speaker 4: it was just forbidden.
Speaker 2: We were actually in the industry at a time where
Speaker 2: you can't even say you had a boyfriend, our girlfriend
Speaker 2: and our wife, like.
Speaker 4: You're unavailable yes, yes, it really used to be resume.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really a part of the music business
Speaker 2: at one point.
Speaker 3: And now because it's all about drama. Yeah, there's that,
Speaker 3: there's that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so you you get pregnant.
Speaker 3: I got pregnant. Yeah, So do you.
Speaker 1: Keep recording, you keep trying? Do you start writing more?
Speaker 3: I was writing more, but that just that changed my
Speaker 3: entire destiny. One thing I always say about God in
Speaker 3: my life is whenever I am doing something that is
Speaker 3: not in line in alignment with where I'm supposed to
Speaker 3: be going, God'll be like, cut that next next lesson.
Speaker 3: And so I was onto my next lesson.
Speaker 4: My next lesson was I ended up pregnant, had a
Speaker 4: child with my my best one of my best friends
Speaker 4: at the time and he's still my best friend to
Speaker 4: this day. My daughter's father, but we kind of weren't
Speaker 4: like meshing as a couple. So my daughter was like
Speaker 4: maybe one. I was going through really bad phase of postpartum.
Speaker 4: So I ended up. I don't know if you know
Speaker 4: my cousin at the time, well she's my cousin, but
Speaker 4: at the time she was signed to Sylvia Rohane. Her
Speaker 4: name is Billy Lawrence. Oh yeah, I didn't know that
Speaker 4: was your cousin, and yeah, I went to see her.
Speaker 4: And at the time, she was working on writing records
Speaker 4: for Mary and you know a lot of the people.
Speaker 4: She's living in New York and I was still in
Speaker 4: LA and I just kind of felt like the Libra
Speaker 4: and me was like trying to just get out of
Speaker 4: my skin because I was going through postpartum and I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, baby, new baby, and I still wanted
Speaker 4: to just be me.
Speaker 3: So I ran out to New York stay with her.
Speaker 4: One of the people she was working with at the time,
Speaker 4: and a good friend of her became a good friend
Speaker 4: of me. His name is Delight. He was a producer.
Speaker 1: I absolutely know who Delight is.
Speaker 3: I ended up marrying Delight.
Speaker 1: Okay, didn't know that, but I know who Delight is.
Speaker 4: I buried him and started, you know, doing music with
Speaker 4: him as well, writing songs, and he was submitting songs
Speaker 4: to Diddy Andre at the time for projects. At the time,
Speaker 4: Drey was working on his first lady Aftermath, which was
Speaker 4: a young lady named Kim Summerson. I had submitted some
Speaker 4: records with Delight to him, and there was one record
Speaker 4: called Turn Me Out that Dre just went absolutely bananas
Speaker 4: for He was like, who wrote this record? And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, my wife wrote it. And he was like, okay,
Speaker 4: we want this record for Kim. And I don't know
Speaker 4: how many other records they took, but they flew me
Speaker 4: out to do the vocals with her and stuff. And
Speaker 4: you know, because the way that I demoed songs back then,
Speaker 4: it was kind of like more of an artsy thing.
Speaker 4: It was what I learned about being a fan of Prince.
Speaker 4: It was more, you know, it was it was more
Speaker 4: that it was more artistic than it was just singing
Speaker 4: the song straight down like a demo.
Speaker 3: Like if you were submitting the.
Speaker 1: Now, you were making the songs for you.
Speaker 2: That's what what Dre used to say.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I guess.
Speaker 4: But when I submitted the song, you know, he was like, okay,
Speaker 4: well we need you to help her with the little
Speaker 4: inflections of little things, little pieces. Okay came out and
Speaker 4: then I started writing for some of the artists that
Speaker 4: he had time yet. He was working with Eve and
Speaker 4: uh Dawn from in Vogue, yeah, a few other people,
Speaker 4: and so I was just writing records.
Speaker 1: As you're just writing records, this is a song that
Speaker 1: you wrote. That is one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 3: Which one Wilson Yesterday. Yes, that was before them.
Speaker 1: I loved that. No no, no, no, I love it.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know you wrote that record. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I found I was like, oh, this is special because
Speaker 1: I always loved the record. I love Chinese.
Speaker 4: Well, actually it wasn't before then. I wrote that about
Speaker 4: the divorce. It was about the divorce from him from
Speaker 4: the light. Okay, yeah, that's about because I was I
Speaker 4: was married for maybe six months.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're gonna put it in. That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just put it in a song.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you don't have nothing to write about,
Speaker 4: just Godeo live, yeah, live.
Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah. So you had that placement already.
Speaker 4: I had, well, I was Jamie Jazz okay, okay, and
Speaker 4: he was working with Chinese and so I was writing
Speaker 4: with him and then he was like, yes, I needs
Speaker 4: another record for this album, and so I went in
Speaker 4: to work with him and we came up with Yesterday.
Speaker 2: And now you're are you just kind of on staff
Speaker 2: at Aftermath as a writer.
Speaker 1: Off and on yes, So no artist stuff at all
Speaker 1: at first.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I had given that up. I had
Speaker 4: given that up. I was done with that. After Sugar Dap,
Speaker 4: I had kind of resigned to just writing. And I
Speaker 4: really had gone through so much at that point, you know,
Speaker 4: having a baby, getting married, getting divorced.
Speaker 3: It was a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so I didn't know what I wanted,
Speaker 4: going through an additional heartbreak before that.
Speaker 3: It was just a lot going on.
Speaker 4: So I just kind of sat back and I said,
Speaker 4: I'm going to just write and figure out what I
Speaker 4: want to do with my life.
Speaker 2: So at what point does it turn into Okay, you're
Speaker 2: writing these great songs for the other artists that are
Speaker 2: part of the label.
Speaker 3: Right, actually you should single.
Speaker 2: Well, you're doing it on purpose because you sound like
Speaker 2: you said you was singing the demos very prince like
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 3: I swear to you, I didn't.
Speaker 4: It was nineteen ninety eight. I had moved back home
Speaker 4: with my mother after all the disaster and my brother,
Speaker 4: because my brother was living in San Jose with his
Speaker 4: new wife. Moved back with my baby and said, I'm
Speaker 4: going to go back to school. I'm going to get
Speaker 4: into interior design because I love all things creative.
Speaker 3: So I got a.
Speaker 4: Call Christmas ninety eight, Dre Mike Linn on the phone.
Speaker 4: They're like, Yo, we need you to come down here.
Speaker 4: We want you to try some records for yourself. We're
Speaker 4: sitting here listening to these demos and you sound like
Speaker 4: you need to be a solo artist. I was like,
Speaker 4: oh no, oh no, I'm going a different direction of
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to school. Tree was like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you still writing to No.
Speaker 3: At that point, I gave up everything.
Speaker 1: I was done.
Speaker 4: Yes, they were listening to all the demos that had
Speaker 4: submitted for all the artists and everything that I had
Speaker 4: done for after myth at that point, and I was frustrated.
Speaker 4: I was done. I said, no, I'm done. I don't
Speaker 4: want to do this no more. Fuck the music industry for.
Speaker 1: All this shit. And then you get the call.
Speaker 4: They called me and was like please just just come down,
Speaker 4: and then he put Dre on the phone exclusively, like
Speaker 4: offspeaker phone. Drake gets on the phone and says, listen,
Speaker 4: let's try. You don't have to, you know, do anything
Speaker 4: you don't want to do. Let's try, and if it
Speaker 4: doesn't work, nobody will hear it. I was like, you promise.
Speaker 3: I was like, you promised.
Speaker 4: I said, okay, all right, let's let's let's let's try.
Speaker 4: I was on a plane right after Christmas back to
Speaker 4: La moving into a place. I think I lived in
Speaker 4: Oakwood at the time, because I was stationed in Sands again.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he had to go to the Oakwood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the oak Woods. Worked on all these records. Man,
Speaker 4: I did over. I told Terry, I said, I did
Speaker 4: one hundred records. One hundred. Danny decided, oh, we're going
Speaker 4: on tour. We're going over Smoke, and I want you
Speaker 4: to sing on the tour. You're gonna come out with us,
Speaker 4: and then you're going to continue to work on the bus.
Speaker 1: Before any of the project has come up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: He was like, You're going to continue to work on
Speaker 4: the bus on the album, and I'm like, okay, after
Speaker 4: one hundred songs, I'm still going. So I'm still working
Speaker 4: on the bus, doing the tour, doing some more ridiculous
Speaker 4: songs with Mailman. At the time, I was on the
Speaker 4: same bus as time and we were pumping out some heat.
Speaker 4: A lot of the songs that I did people will
Speaker 4: never hear.
Speaker 3: Crazy, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: If you know doctor Dre you know, a lot of
Speaker 4: the songs will never be heard, they'll never see the
Speaker 4: light of day. But man, those are some of the
Speaker 4: songs that people should hurt.
Speaker 3: So I did like three albums essentially.
Speaker 2: So why are you on the bus and on tour?
Speaker 2: Is that when you do break your neck with Buffy?
Speaker 3: No, that was when we got back.
Speaker 4: That was after we released Addictive, or we're about to
Speaker 4: release Addictive.
Speaker 2: I'm about to say, because it's not the same time, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the same okay round the same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was in the studio at home.
Speaker 1: So how is that for you?
Speaker 2: In that process of Okay, I got this record with
Speaker 2: Buster the rhymes out.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, let's rewind a bit because during those days, Dre
Speaker 4: will call me in the middle night and I remember
Speaker 4: I saw a baby girl. I had to get her
Speaker 4: to school in the morning. All praise to my mother.
Speaker 4: My mother was the reason. She was the anchor that
Speaker 4: allowed me to work back then, because if I couldn't
Speaker 4: take my daughter to school because I was in the
Speaker 4: studio till five o'clock and I was sleepless in Seattle,
Speaker 4: my mom would take my daughter to school and then
Speaker 4: I have to be back in the studio about one
Speaker 4: o'clock around the clock. So sometimes I would go home
Speaker 4: early from the studio, go home and go to sleep
Speaker 4: so I could get back to the studio next day.
Speaker 4: Andre would call me at two o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 4: bust it here, we need this hook.
Speaker 3: Get back up here, and I.
Speaker 4: Go to the studio in the middle of the night
Speaker 4: write a hook, sing it.
Speaker 1: Or you missed that opportunity, yeah, or you.
Speaker 4: Missed the opportunity. Oh, I really didn't have a choice. Really,
Speaker 4: I had to get my ass up and just go
Speaker 4: do it. But it is an opportunity.
Speaker 3: You're right. There was no saying no. I would get
Speaker 3: up and just go right. That's it. That's what I
Speaker 3: was there to do.
Speaker 1: Period. So you're writing, you're writing all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm writing that stuff too.
Speaker 1: Oh that's dope. Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So go back home, go to sleep.
Speaker 2: Did you were your intentions now to move where you're
Speaker 2: moving into your artistry? Were your intentions to be a
Speaker 2: part of a lot of hip hop stuff or was
Speaker 2: that just kind of thrown at you?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I mean it just was a part of
Speaker 4: where I was, right, That was is aftermath. So I
Speaker 4: fit in there the way that I could fit, of course,
Speaker 4: and so the side of me that that that was
Speaker 4: rebellious at the time, that did have something on my
Speaker 4: chest that I wanted to say, that side of me
Speaker 4: that worked in that era of what we were.
Speaker 3: Writing and what we were doing.
Speaker 4: So still trying to figure out who I wanted to
Speaker 4: be as an artist, because I didn't know if I
Speaker 4: wanted to be an artist, remember, So that's why you
Speaker 4: get in there and you're you're you're, you're muddling around
Speaker 4: and figuring out what you want to do.
Speaker 3: But then it wasn't my idea at the time. So
Speaker 3: let's go into that idea.
Speaker 1: Let's go into addictive. Where does that even come from?
Speaker 3: Quick? DJ Quick, DJ motherfucking Quick.
Speaker 1: The incredible, incomparable amazing, Yeah, yeah, DJ motherfucking Quick.
Speaker 4: My brother and I initially after Wine met Quick through
Speaker 4: the phone business with my dad nother way, go figure.
Speaker 1: He bought one of the burners there you go. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: Quick as a name.
Speaker 4: Quick in G One. I dated g One back in
Speaker 4: the day when oh my god, you remember the North
Speaker 4: rich earthquake.
Speaker 3: I remember Northwind?
Speaker 4: Back then, I was I was dating G One and
Speaker 4: I was selling the phones for my dad going back
Speaker 4: and forth to San Jose living in North Hollywood, got
Speaker 4: caught in the middle of that quake. But during that time,
Speaker 4: my dad was still up in the bay, and I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, g one, said quick, one of you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, up to up to the up to the bay.
Speaker 4: Sorted that out. Him and my dad got close quickly,
Speaker 4: love my dad. George loved my dad. So this was
Speaker 4: long before addictive. So you know, they say everything is
Speaker 4: three hundred and sixty degrees. You end up meeting people
Speaker 4: back where you met them. And so Quick was already
Speaker 4: a brother to me. That's why people don't know. And
Speaker 4: that was how this whole thing was effortless with him
Speaker 4: and Dre because at the time him and Dre weren't
Speaker 4: speaking because of whatever happened with Sugar and all the
Speaker 4: back story.
Speaker 3: They hadn't spoken. Oh, so that record brought them back
Speaker 3: to gain Hello. Truth bought them.
Speaker 2: You know what, like we said, well, we say we
Speaker 2: standing on the truth, we stand true, we stand in
Speaker 2: truth on truth today and.
Speaker 1: So y'all go do that record.
Speaker 4: He did the record. No, that was all Quick. So
Speaker 4: Quick gave me that record for my birthday. We were
Speaker 4: supposed to be working on something else, gave me some
Speaker 4: other stuffs. It was crazy because No, it was crazy
Speaker 4: because at the time, right we had done all the
Speaker 4: records we could do and we were looking for a single.
Speaker 3: Still we were working on a single. Single.
Speaker 4: We were like, Dre's like, we don't have a single.
Speaker 4: We don't have a single, we don't have a single.
Speaker 4: When I started talking Quick Quick was giving me other tracks.
Speaker 4: I don't know what made him call me with this one,
Speaker 4: but he had done this track with MC light.
Speaker 3: Initially he put it on her. No, it never came out.
Speaker 3: They just did it.
Speaker 4: She put the vocals on. It never came out. He
Speaker 4: was like, listen, see what Dre feel about this track.
Speaker 4: He sent it to me. Dre is in the hospital
Speaker 4: at the time with his wife, having his daughter with
Speaker 4: his wife, and I'm like, I don't want to disturb y'all,
Speaker 4: but you got to hit this.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I said it to him.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send it to you and you tell me
Speaker 3: what you did.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 3: Drey was like, what the fuckest He's like, what is this?
Speaker 1: Had you cut your vocals yet? No? I tried to.
Speaker 3: Write to this ship. It was killing me.
Speaker 4: I couldn't write to it. It was driving me crazy.
Speaker 4: I had to call in Static.
Speaker 3: Rest in peace, my brother mine as well.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 4: So I've lived so many lives in this business. I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm skipping over so much. Because Static and
Speaker 4: I had worked on some other stuff back in the
Speaker 4: day for Leah with timbling. That's how much my pen
Speaker 4: was just going, going, going, going before I even got
Speaker 4: into this thing with Dre.
Speaker 1: Now, he would call me at like six in the
Speaker 1: morning California time. Why why it's very early in California.
Speaker 3: Right light, My god, such a bright light.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get me to come to Louisville.
Speaker 3: See, like Louisville, Louisville.
Speaker 1: You gotta come down here with you. You got you got,
Speaker 1: you gotta come down to the derby. You got barbecue,
Speaker 1: we got weeds. I don't, but.
Speaker 4: You know, I know about it because I'm from Blue
Speaker 4: It's not far from Louisville.
Speaker 1: I love that brother, man.
Speaker 4: But man, you know the whole group was was they
Speaker 4: stole my heart. They stole my heart back in the day.
Speaker 1: So you sent it to Status.
Speaker 3: I didn't send it to Static.
Speaker 4: I called him in, okay, because at first, when I
Speaker 4: wanted Static to come in to write because I was like, Dre,
Speaker 4: I'm look, I've written a hundred songs.
Speaker 3: I can't write no more.
Speaker 4: When I originally wanted to get static, I I ran
Speaker 4: it by Dre and he was like, who who? I said,
Speaker 4: I said, you don't know, player, You don't know because
Speaker 4: you know my writing history hit long already, and he
Speaker 4: didn't really Yeah, yeah, he had his own world, he
Speaker 4: had his own genius, he had his own crew. I
Speaker 4: was like, please let me bring him in. Initially the
Speaker 4: answer was no, not for Addictive. This was earlier songs
Speaker 4: because I couldn't write no more. I was like, yo,
Speaker 4: I'm stuck.
Speaker 3: Now stuck, that's it.
Speaker 4: A hundred songs. He said, yes, for when I tell
Speaker 4: you that man came in and wrote Addictive in five minutes,
Speaker 4: Praise God, five minutes. Five minutes. He walked in, he
Speaker 4: sang down the melody, he walked out. He listened to
Speaker 4: the melody, he walked in, he put the lyrics to it,
Speaker 4: he walked out.
Speaker 3: I said, I know you.
Speaker 1: Oh so you didn't write on a dick.
Speaker 3: No, I wrote whatever the other song, put the r
Speaker 3: Kelly song in a tic.
Speaker 1: It one other thing. Artist, if someone gives you a smash.
Speaker 2: Sing it please and thank you, thank.
Speaker 4: You, because my new project is only that get out
Speaker 4: of your own way.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, today today.
Speaker 4: Because until you do that, you really don't you really
Speaker 4: don't understand the essence of your genius, your own genius.
Speaker 3: You have to do that sometimes. And if Michael Jackson
Speaker 3: did it, who are you?
Speaker 1: One more thing that I think.
Speaker 2: Printing all of his genius, he had a lot of
Speaker 2: people thinking they could do it bout himself.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not. Prince, You're not, You're
Speaker 4: not prince. Prince played several instruments. Let's let's let's not
Speaker 4: let's not forget that.
Speaker 1: Part he was.
Speaker 3: He was a lot several instruments.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think as artists semi listen.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm surrounded by Gemini, so I know. But
Speaker 2: I think that that happens with, you know, with a
Speaker 2: lot of artists sometimes where he's like, oh.
Speaker 3: You know, get stuck.
Speaker 1: It didn't come from me, and I, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Just write, it's got to come from me. It's almost
Speaker 4: like that's the rule, and it's not.
Speaker 1: The rule is to get to hit.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this last project, God said, what
Speaker 4: have you not done yet that you could do that
Speaker 4: might serve you and show you who you actually are.
Speaker 3: And I said, what you know?
Speaker 4: You get those downloads and you'd be like, what you
Speaker 4: be confused by your own downloads?
Speaker 3: And you'd be like, Lord, what are you saying?
Speaker 1: What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 3: What does this mean?
Speaker 4: And and and and and if you don't believe in God,
Speaker 4: the universe will tell you something and you'll be like,
Speaker 4: what does this mean?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Why do I keep thinking this? The only thing that
Speaker 3: I had not done.
Speaker 4: Is be a muse for other people to write and
Speaker 4: tell me who they believe I am. After all of this,
Speaker 4: after all of this, and when I tell you, the
Speaker 4: magic on this new record is uncanny. Because of that,
Speaker 4: this man wrote this record for me that don't know
Speaker 4: me from Adam. The record was so some synonymous with
Speaker 4: my journey in life. I called my sister that got
Speaker 4: him to do it. This god, this new writer named
Speaker 4: bug shout out the book. My sister lex I said,
Speaker 4: did you tell this man my business? She said no, no, nothing.
Speaker 4: And when my dad heard the song, my dad said,
Speaker 4: you didn't write that. I said, I swear for God,
Speaker 4: I didn't write it. This man wrote the song he
Speaker 4: don't know Me from Adam or eve mm hmm. That's
Speaker 4: what inspired him and then and then, but it more
Speaker 4: than spoke to me.
Speaker 3: It is me. It is me.
Speaker 4: If you let anybody hear that song, they're like, you
Speaker 4: wrote that. I'm like, no, I didn't write it. And
Speaker 4: when you understand how God inspired somebody else to write
Speaker 4: about you, that's a whole new level of the game,
Speaker 4: because that means you've made a statement for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, if somebody, if you've if you've put enough
Speaker 1: out there for somebody to be able to pull from
Speaker 1: and create and really.
Speaker 2: Like you said, lock in like that. No, that means
Speaker 2: you've done something. Because sometimes it's spiritual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I means you've done something real.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's spiritual. It doesn't it doesn't have to come
Speaker 4: from what they see. It may come from something that
Speaker 4: they get. They get downloads too, and they just happened
Speaker 4: to know where you're going next. And when I tell you,
Speaker 4: this man told part of my story with his pen
Speaker 4: about my divorce and everything that I had gone through
Speaker 4: in those last years, I said, this is crazy. I said,
Speaker 4: I know you told this man something about me. I
Speaker 4: know you took because I never trusted anybody to write
Speaker 4: anything for.
Speaker 3: Me until now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so other than static, well that had to
Speaker 4: happen because you know, I had written all little songs.
Speaker 4: So I was like, yeah, I gotta do it, I
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta release this now because but that was
Speaker 4: that was the other time that the magic happened.
Speaker 3: So I was like, let's let's let's try it again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when the record drops and it literally he sets
Speaker 1: the world on fire. I remember the first time I
Speaker 1: heard it, I was like, where were you? What the fuck?
Speaker 1: I was in the base still really yeah, I was
Speaker 1: in the base. I was going back and forth.
Speaker 2: I was going back and forth between LA and the bay,
Speaker 2: and I was already out here moving around.
Speaker 1: But I was when I heard the record though I was.
Speaker 3: In the bay.
Speaker 1: I heard it the first time on Camel.
Speaker 4: Addictives was so ignorant that it had people arguing about
Speaker 4: whether it was dope or not. Yes, like radios, which
Speaker 4: is great, which is.
Speaker 1: Great, actually a great thing, which is great.
Speaker 4: And it got out accidentally because Jimmy Ivan didn't believe
Speaker 4: in the record. He didn't he was like, no, we
Speaker 4: need to release the r Kelly record. And so I
Speaker 4: don't even know how Addictive got out. It wasn't released,
Speaker 4: it was leaked, okay, and I don't know who did
Speaker 4: that to this day. It wasn't me, it wasn't Dreh,
Speaker 4: but somebody. Jimmy said that wasn't the record. He was like,
Speaker 4: that's not it. He was like, that's not the record.
Speaker 4: It's the Truth record. But Kelly's going through his stuff.
Speaker 2: But even in looking at that right, thinking about that record,
Speaker 2: because Truth is a good record too, but thinking about Okay,
Speaker 2: her name is Truth herds, it's Truth, it's R.
Speaker 1: Kelly. It feels like a layup, yeah, from an executive stance.
Speaker 4: From executive because Jimmy didn't understand what Dray was trying
Speaker 4: to do with it.
Speaker 3: He didn't really understand from the beginning. He was like,
Speaker 3: what is this That sounds like Jimmy.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go into the Jimmy tails. But
Speaker 4: he didn't really understand the project. He didn't understand where
Speaker 4: were going with it, and all he knew was that
Speaker 4: the R. Kelly thing was a layup because he was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: well it's it's it's a little hood, okay, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 4: y'all talking like real shit.
Speaker 3: It's hood.
Speaker 4: It's almost like a rapper, but a singer. You gotta
Speaker 4: do the r Kelly thing first, because and I think.
Speaker 2: Did he have he had rock Land at that time
Speaker 2: on through Interscope. I think around that same time, I
Speaker 2: think he has still there.
Speaker 4: I think so, And I think that's what Jimmy was
Speaker 4: trying to do. He was trying to merge those worlds.
Speaker 4: But but Robert was going through his stuff then he
Speaker 4: was starting to go through, you know, the drama of
Speaker 4: whatever was happening in his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now when your record pops though, it.
Speaker 2: Leaks, it leaks at least people are arguing, even us.
Speaker 2: How do you how do you feel like, what's the
Speaker 2: feeling of the years you've put in? Yeah, the times
Speaker 2: you've quit are are pivoted. I like to say, he's
Speaker 2: gonna be an interior designer, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It just you went back to the Bay.
Speaker 2: Now you back in LA You've got a record deal,
Speaker 2: and now you have a smash.
Speaker 1: It's finally here. What does that feeling feel like?
Speaker 3: Amazing?
Speaker 4: Because I didn't even when I heard it on the radio.
Speaker 4: I was doing my daughter's hair at my house on
Speaker 4: Valley Circle and with the nails and I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: that's addictive.
Speaker 3: It was just blue. Me and my mother started because
Speaker 3: nobody knew it was released.
Speaker 4: Me and my mother started screaming, and my daughter was
Speaker 4: still young, she was like, money, is that you. I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, that's crazy. I don't know how I
Speaker 4: got on the radio, but it's me.
Speaker 3: It was. It was wild. The whole thing was wild.
Speaker 3: It just it mistakenly happened.
Speaker 1: So it was just so, do you immediately start doing shows?
Speaker 4: No, no, we immediately try to find a second.
Speaker 1: Single before you even start moving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, huh, because we were It was an accident, but.
Speaker 1: You don't start working it.
Speaker 4: Listen, it had it been up to Dre, that song
Speaker 4: probably would have seen the light of day. Okay, So
Speaker 4: we weren't ready.
Speaker 1: So as much as going they're already trying to.
Speaker 4: Get off it, they weren't trying to get off it.
Speaker 4: We were trying to prepare to continue with the album.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it wasn't a matter of not getting out
Speaker 4: on the road, because I ended up getting out on
Speaker 4: the road. It was a matter of making sure we
Speaker 4: had something to follow follow to keep the momentum up.
Speaker 4: But man, we weren't expecting that momentum to take off
Speaker 4: the way that it did, and because it was so
Speaker 4: different and I have anything else on.
Speaker 1: The album, I was like, gotch you?
Speaker 3: That was the test.
Speaker 1: So in a sense, it was your thong song. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you get what I say when I when I
Speaker 1: say that, though, explain so Cisco amazing singer. Yeah, great records.
Speaker 3: You mean coming out of his group to that.
Speaker 2: Yes, and and but just even not even just coming
Speaker 2: out of his group to that, but also what the
Speaker 2: rest of his album sounded like.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's different.
Speaker 2: Nothing on that album sounds like throng song. It's like
Speaker 2: because to me that's also ushers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing on Nothing, but nothing on Confession sounds like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true, it's you know what I mean, And it's
Speaker 2: this thing that you can you can but He's seg though,
Speaker 2: but you can't get caught up in that. You can
Speaker 2: get caught up in this massive thing that it's a
Speaker 2: distinct sound that maybe isn't what your full artistry is about.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it goes back to what we originally spoke about
Speaker 4: the artistry and who you are, what you're delivering through
Speaker 4: your artistry, what kind of truth you're delivering through your artistry,
Speaker 4: because you have to know what that is.
Speaker 2: So did you have moments where you're like, Okay, well
Speaker 2: we have this, you know, East Asian sample, and I
Speaker 2: gotta I gotta be in this space.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta look like the part. No, you
Speaker 1: never went there though, where you're just like all, I
Speaker 1: gotta put on the costume.
Speaker 4: I at least knew that much about who I am.
Speaker 4: I'm from Saint Louis. I'm not to listen.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't so much that it was it was more.
Speaker 4: What do you do visually? But I think we delivered that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: absolutely did we delivered that. We got Fatima, and Fatima
Speaker 4: she knows how to She knows how to cross over
Speaker 4: those those boundaries and and and mesh them and make
Speaker 4: them sexy.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what's crazy about the record is.
Speaker 4: Even the people in India who thought it was disrespectful
Speaker 4: to do the record with a lot of mangoshka sample,
Speaker 4: I think they still love how sexy the merge is
Speaker 4: and even what Fatima did to merge it, you know,
Speaker 4: with the dancing with with with the dancers she got.
Speaker 3: She made me take belly dancing classes.
Speaker 4: We we really tried to tap into the culture.
Speaker 1: Well why would Why did they feel like it was disrespectful?
Speaker 1: Is it is this song or is a.
Speaker 3: Because it's India.
Speaker 4: I don't think there was anyarticular reason, Okay, I think
Speaker 4: it was just the fact that it's there's a difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't stand for our records.
Speaker 3: Simple And it was without permission. And that's what I
Speaker 3: was about to ask you about. I know, yeah, this
Speaker 3: what's next.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's clear that up for everybody now, because I
Speaker 4: know your show, You and Tank show is big enough
Speaker 4: to clear up a lot of bullshit. Let's clear up
Speaker 4: all the bullshit right now about what happened with the
Speaker 4: lawsuit and the result of the lawsuit, because a lot
Speaker 4: of people believe that there.
Speaker 3: Was millions and millions and millions and.
Speaker 4: Millions paid Out's not a lot of millions paid out.
Speaker 3: That's number one. The lawsuit did happen.
Speaker 4: They saw a chance to get somebody that is as
Speaker 4: large as doctor Dre and go after him. Sample was
Speaker 4: accidentally not cleared because the way that the sample was
Speaker 4: procured by quick.
Speaker 3: And you're gonna think this is funny. He's sampled.
Speaker 4: He was in the shower, he said so this is
Speaker 4: this is this is all quicks account. He was in
Speaker 4: the shower and he heard he had his his, his, his, his.
Speaker 3: TV playing some foreign station.
Speaker 4: This is quick Ship, quick Ship. I'm surprised y'alln't ask
Speaker 4: him this when he was on. But this was some
Speaker 4: ship that that that only quick could do. He's in
Speaker 4: the shower, he hears the song playing. He runs out
Speaker 4: of the shower wet. He's wet, had to tell and
Speaker 4: he's like, what the fuck is that. He starts taping it,
Speaker 4: like what is this? It is a foreign channel playing
Speaker 4: the original song. Latta on the video is a woman
Speaker 4: dancing around the room for Men's Vine, for Men's Affection,
Speaker 4: and she's belly dancing and he's like on a stole
Speaker 4: and he he sampled it.
Speaker 3: He taped it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what he put it on, but he
Speaker 4: taped it. But I think it went from the shower,
Speaker 4: got the sample and was like, yo, I'm sampling this
Speaker 4: shit because he didn't think, you know, it's across the world.
Speaker 4: It's not going to make a difference, right, And in
Speaker 4: the midst of that, we're thinking, because producers back then
Speaker 4: it's their job to clear samples that they use between
Speaker 4: them and their attorneys. It's not the artists or the label,
Speaker 4: it's the producer. So we didn't think about any of that.
Speaker 4: We thought it was done. It was not clear, and
Speaker 4: so they came after Dre and what they tried to
Speaker 4: come after him with. The argument they had was they
Speaker 4: said that it was spiritual. It was it was something
Speaker 4: that they used for their religion, and that it was
Speaker 4: a violation of their religion. That was the way they
Speaker 4: wanted to confirm that they would, you know, win the settlement. Yeah,
Speaker 4: come to find out, that was the reason they didn't win,
Speaker 4: because the investigation was done on the whole thing and
Speaker 4: it was not spiritual.
Speaker 3: It was very much a formal process of prostitution.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, when you're dancing around the room vying, I'm like,
Speaker 4: this is this is not spiritual, this is not religious,
Speaker 4: this is not So that was what lost them the
Speaker 4: actual lawsuit. So what they indeed won. Everybody out there
Speaker 4: who think they know, and you know, when y'all posting, oh,
Speaker 4: they she's walked up because she five hundred million, that
Speaker 4: shut up and listen. It's crazy because they didn't get that.
Speaker 4: None of that happened. None of that happened, it didn't happen.
Speaker 4: What they got was the right to properly credit the record.
Speaker 4: So they made inner scope, pull everything off shelves, pull
Speaker 4: it off Internet, whatever wherever it was. They had to
Speaker 4: properly credit it and then they could put it back.
Speaker 4: So basically the it had to be done properly, proper splits.
Speaker 4: But because at the time I got scared during the
Speaker 4: lawsuit and was trying to leave the label, we thought,
Speaker 4: you know, nothing was going to work at this point
Speaker 4: with that, with that level of a lawsuit, I got
Speaker 4: scared of the way people get scared when they hear
Speaker 4: the number five hundred million.
Speaker 3: I got scared too.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, maybe we should shut this down
Speaker 4: and I should just kind of go on my way.
Speaker 4: So I kind of ran from the process, which is
Speaker 4: my long history of a lot of things being a runner.
Speaker 4: Until the last five years of my life, I've been
Speaker 4: a runner. I was like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 4: gonna this is gonna fuck me up. I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: be able to put out any more singles and the
Speaker 4: record is done. And I listened to a lot of
Speaker 4: what other people had to say, and I shouldn't have,
Speaker 4: and that's the bottom line and got scared and fled
Speaker 4: the situation, asked Jimmy for a release, asked Dray for
Speaker 4: a release, and they did.
Speaker 3: They released me. They were like, you can get out
Speaker 3: of the deal.
Speaker 4: You know. I had a lawyer and a manager at
Speaker 4: the time, powerful manager at the time, which was Troy Carter,
Speaker 4: and we figured out a way to just kind of
Speaker 4: exit the situation that unscathed.
Speaker 1: I say, this is all during the first person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, it was a lot. It was overwhelming.
Speaker 1: So were you not performing either?
Speaker 4: I was. I was.
Speaker 3: I was on the road. I was on the road.
Speaker 4: But still when this came down the pipeline, it was
Speaker 4: kind of after the song was fizzling out and I
Speaker 4: needed a new single and the only other single we
Speaker 4: were thinking about.
Speaker 1: Was the one with R Kelly and then yeah, that was.
Speaker 3: Happening with his legal issues. So when I tell you so.
Speaker 2: For you, these are signs at that time, because because
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm going back to also the truth.
Speaker 2: Who's telling me I was never trying to come back
Speaker 2: to this and.
Speaker 3: Seek you first, the cadom of God in his rights.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, what is going on?
Speaker 3: My head was filled with so much. I didn't know
Speaker 3: what to do.
Speaker 2: I was like, because in hindsight, it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you just keep pushing forward and you put it this
Speaker 2: and you do this, and we get to the next.
Speaker 1: This why you're going through it?
Speaker 2: And like you said, you hearing these numbers and it's
Speaker 2: five hundred million trillion.
Speaker 1: Dollars, that's all I understand. You Like, I got to
Speaker 1: get out of this because at some point maybe they
Speaker 1: want me to pay this. I ain't got five hundred million.
Speaker 4: Well I thought they would put it against against against
Speaker 4: my account, so they ended up putting a million and
Speaker 4: some change against my account.
Speaker 3: So really, but it wasn't because of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably just.
Speaker 2: Playing litigation and paying you know, whatever the budget was.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yes, wow, yes, so all of that happened.
Speaker 1: And now you're free. You're off the label.
Speaker 4: I'm off the label. But I am still working out
Speaker 4: the details of exiting the contract fully and the amount O.
Speaker 4: I'm still exiting that as we speak. We're still in
Speaker 4: discussion about that. Wait to this day, to this day, Yes,
Speaker 4: to this day, R and B money ship.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that. I didn't think you're going to
Speaker 1: say that that is.
Speaker 3: The truth, that didn't think the truth?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you.
Speaker 4: Were one point seven million and I think fifty five dollars.
Speaker 1: Man, how do we get it down to fifty four? S? Yes?
Speaker 2: Well then the Watcher two comes out too, though, which you.
Speaker 3: That has nothing to do did you.
Speaker 1: But but I'm saying, like these things are happening.
Speaker 4: But all of those were things that they were already doing.
Speaker 4: Night calls, those are just those those were my writers,
Speaker 4: those those weren't They had nothing to do with the
Speaker 4: truth Truth hurt.
Speaker 1: But then.
Speaker 2: The actress just still has nothing to do with my album.
Speaker 1: So none of these things crossing at all.
Speaker 3: No, that doesn't pay off.
Speaker 1: Nothing about paying off. No, no, no, I'm just saying as
Speaker 1: far as.
Speaker 4: Just the work that just made me actor, that didn't
Speaker 4: that didn't you know, do anything with interscope as far
Speaker 4: as you know, recruitment.
Speaker 3: So I just they were.
Speaker 1: Also still in business, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, because because Jimmy just helped me procure
Speaker 4: those things to promote the album, those things were external,
Speaker 4: like Ali, all those extra opportunities were you know, of course,
Speaker 4: you know you Jimmy Ivan, you can call anybody and
Speaker 4: get anything to happen.
Speaker 2: So you're the new artist. We're trying to get cracking exactly.
Speaker 2: How was that experience with Ali?
Speaker 4: Oh? My got amazing, amazing. Those were the.
Speaker 1: Because Ali came before the Wash.
Speaker 3: No, I want to say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: So this is your first time acting, yes, in a
Speaker 1: major movie, a major film.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And most of what I did had been
Speaker 4: on stage.
Speaker 1: But you were you were ready, You were prepared.
Speaker 4: I was prepared because I did, you know, the musical acting,
Speaker 4: and for me, you know, once you do Broadway Agent Broway.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, once you do that type of acting
Speaker 4: and you're ready for it, yeah, yeah, it's a different preparation.
Speaker 2: So so you do Ali soul singer in Ali, and
Speaker 2: then you do the Watch.
Speaker 4: Actually auditioned for the actually auditioned, auditioned for the Watch.
Speaker 1: You didn't audition for.
Speaker 4: Yes and No because it wasn't it wasn't a part
Speaker 4: where you know I had to yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: So they had to see me first, right, there were.
Speaker 3: Other people up for the part.
Speaker 4: I'm sure Jimmy's word took precedence, but I had to
Speaker 4: actually audition for DJ.
Speaker 1: Pooh I had.
Speaker 4: I went in the same room that everybody else auditioned
Speaker 4: for Vicky. I went in the same room with DJ
Speaker 4: Pooh to audition for that part, and I got it
Speaker 4: because I went an audition.
Speaker 1: Well that's how I became a video audition on accident.
Speaker 4: I made okay, you know, audition to hey, listen, do
Speaker 4: you find find your voice?
Speaker 3: Find your voice?
Speaker 1: Find your really finding my voice? I thought I was
Speaker 1: doing the Actually I thought I was doing a favor
Speaker 1: for the homie, and somehow I still end up having
Speaker 1: to audition. They tricked me.
Speaker 4: That's what they do, because I didn't think i'd have
Speaker 4: the audition either, but I did.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this snoop.
Speaker 2: But they didn't even but they didn't even tell me though.
Speaker 2: Really I walked in. It was a camera and they
Speaker 2: were like, oh, well, can you just read this? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, okay, I'm here now.
Speaker 1: And then I realized that's all walk and I was like,
Speaker 1: did they pick me audition? And then I called Kesha
Speaker 1: and I'm like, kesh Nigga, did I just said audition
Speaker 1: for your video? And She's like, no, you in my video?
Speaker 1: I said no, no, no, no, no, I just auditioned for
Speaker 1: your video. Damn off the favor you asked.
Speaker 3: People crazy, that's crazy work.
Speaker 2: But what and I've said this before, what makes it
Speaker 2: even crazier is the fact that the director didn't know
Speaker 2: that I was the friend that Keisha wanted in the
Speaker 2: video when she saw my when she saw my tape
Speaker 2: and she picked me.
Speaker 1: I'm like some ship.
Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, that's wild.
Speaker 1: I was made to be a video. No, you stop that,
Speaker 1: have a little time. I didn't want to have two videos.
Speaker 1: It's still be in these streets, you know, every couple
Speaker 1: of months or two and it pop up like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't believe j Valentine.
Speaker 4: No lies you tell LIGI tell Lige, you tell it
Speaker 4: is what it is. Now look at you. You're out
Speaker 4: here saving lies. I'm telling them the R and B truth.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying. That's it. That is the ultimate
Speaker 1: goal for our show.
Speaker 4: You're ACCOMPLI to this platform, accomplishing it because when I
Speaker 4: tell you, I haven't done any interviews, and that's my
Speaker 4: plan to not do any because I hate useless talking.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you pulled up on me like this is
Speaker 1: this is amazing.
Speaker 4: I'm glad we were all lying as well. I'm glad
Speaker 4: we were aligned as well, because the R and B
Speaker 4: conversation is extremely important at such a time.
Speaker 2: And you're important to this conversation, and your story is
Speaker 2: important because this is how this goes. And this is
Speaker 2: not just only your story. This is part of the business.
Speaker 2: There are things that are that you've went through that
Speaker 2: people are going through, are going to go through, or
Speaker 2: need to go through, or need to go through, and
Speaker 2: maybe you know they can learn from.
Speaker 4: This because the truth is a light in that situation.
Speaker 4: You know, you really don't understand who you are, and
Speaker 4: toil you grind it through certain things and been affected
Speaker 4: by certain things. You more understand who you are through
Speaker 4: those conflicts. And when I tell you, some people it
Speaker 4: takes longer than others. Some people just kind of catch
Speaker 4: on and they get it. I had to go through
Speaker 4: certain I'm hardheaded. I had to go through certain conflicts
Speaker 4: to understand the importance of what I can. Some people
Speaker 4: just they snap into it and they understand. Like for me,
Speaker 4: people like Jill Scott and she she understands her assignment.
Speaker 4: Some people have to figure out the assignment, but it's
Speaker 4: a personal assignment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you.
Speaker 2: Did you lean toward acting more once she when she
Speaker 2: really got you know, those opportunities.
Speaker 4: No, No, I decided that performance was the goal, in
Speaker 4: whatever shape form, performance was the goal. I just decided
Speaker 4: to use all the skills that I picked up along
Speaker 4: the way coming up as a young girl, and said
Speaker 4: to myself, you know, all of these play an important
Speaker 4: role in my life.
Speaker 3: So why should there just be one?
Speaker 4: Why why should I stick to one role if all
Speaker 4: of it plays a position in my story. So no,
Speaker 4: I didn't say, oh, you know a lot of people
Speaker 4: were like, oh, I'm gonna act.
Speaker 3: It's faster.
Speaker 4: Money, ain't nothing faster. A journey is a journey. I
Speaker 4: decided to stop forcing things and I decided to just
Speaker 4: start living my story the way it is who I
Speaker 4: am and what I have to offer from it. Because
Speaker 4: the story is important. It is what really gives you
Speaker 4: the capacity to do any of this creatively, to give
Speaker 4: it raw realness. It's the story. And when I decided that,
Speaker 4: then I understood the assignment.
Speaker 3: I get it, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4: Because it's all in assignment, birth to death. It's an assignment.
Speaker 4: It may be shorter if you decide you don't want this. Signman,
Speaker 4: a lot of people wake up and decide they don't
Speaker 4: want it, and they do frivolous shit with their life,
Speaker 4: and they do bullshit and die because you don't want
Speaker 4: the assignment. But when you have a voice, especially in
Speaker 4: this hour, this hour, you have to be responsible with
Speaker 4: that voice. You have to understand what side you choose
Speaker 4: with that voice. I agree, and so that's why a
Speaker 4: lot of people get frustrated with the whole music thing
Speaker 4: and they say, oh, music is dead. No, music ain't
Speaker 4: never dying. Music is here to muse the sick until
Speaker 4: we die. No matter who you are, industry standard is dead,
Speaker 4: not music. Music will never die because people are still affected,
Speaker 4: very affected by music on the levels of living or dying.
Speaker 3: You can hear a song that makes you fall in love,
Speaker 3: makes you.
Speaker 4: Feel sick, that makes you feel like dying, that makes
Speaker 4: you feel like wanting to do something, every emotion, and
Speaker 4: as long as that stands true, since the beginning of time,
Speaker 4: nothing different is happening with music. It is how you
Speaker 4: handle music. It is the business of music that's changing,
Speaker 4: not the music.
Speaker 2: So you moving forward with your music? How are you
Speaker 2: doing your business with it now?
Speaker 4: Well, that's interesting, that's a good question because I am
Speaker 4: in the rebranding part I am doing that solely so
Speaker 4: that that part can't be tampered with.
Speaker 3: The business part hasn't taken off yet.
Speaker 4: The part that is very much me and my solitude
Speaker 4: and me deciding who I want to be, what I
Speaker 4: want to give the world.
Speaker 3: That part is happening.
Speaker 4: Business can't take place until you do that, and that
Speaker 4: part is what is most important. If you ask focus
Speaker 4: in this in this juncture, Yes, that's my main focus.
Speaker 4: I'm almost finished with that part. And then the business, yeah,
Speaker 4: will have to put its hands all over it. But
Speaker 4: that's necessary. And that's that's the part I never took
Speaker 4: time to do. And because I didn't, I was always
Speaker 4: overcome by Dre's audience. Are Kelly's audience? This one?
Speaker 1: That one? That one?
Speaker 4: Who you stand next to? You know, I'm sure you
Speaker 4: you see this A lot people be like, oh, oh,
Speaker 4: I got so and so right here. Oh oh yeah,
Speaker 4: me and so and so. Drake is here, Drake is here?
Speaker 3: Who are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Who are you? I know, Drake?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 4: What does that mean? What do you have to offer me?
Speaker 4: If I'm a fan, why should I buy into who
Speaker 4: you are and what you're doing. I'm going through all
Speaker 4: kinds I'm going through hell right now in this life.
Speaker 4: Why should I buy into anything that you're doing. What
Speaker 4: should it mean to me? Especially with the R and
Speaker 4: B because R and B rhythm and blues. Let's get
Speaker 4: back to the essence of what that is. It touched lives,
Speaker 4: it changed lives. It is soul. It is the bottom
Speaker 4: of soul, like when you think of real R and
Speaker 4: B and the essence of.
Speaker 2: It, I think that's It's also it's a promotional tool, right,
Speaker 2: and I think you know, some people get too caught
Speaker 2: up in the promotional tool and the promotional thing. There
Speaker 2: is a balance to that for sure, but you know
Speaker 2: it can put more eyeballs on you. So I think
Speaker 2: sometimes people are just like, I gotta be next to
Speaker 2: whatever and to introduce.
Speaker 4: Well, you can do that, of course, because you have
Speaker 4: to collaborate. Collaboration is very important. I didn't say that
Speaker 4: that isn't important. It's important. I'm saying you have to
Speaker 4: know who you are before you can collaborate with anything,
Speaker 4: Like you have to have an identity or you get
Speaker 4: whup in that situation with the identity of the person
Speaker 4: that's standing next to you.
Speaker 2: So what's for you? What's you said? You gotta do
Speaker 2: music that you're working on. What's the timeline for.
Speaker 3: It's done? Okay, it's done, Okay, pretty much done. I'm
Speaker 3: still going through some mixing stuff.
Speaker 2: So this side of the year, we're gonna hear Oh yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: just sam Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I'm going through a reveal on ten ten.
Speaker 4: Which is my actual birthday, okay, And I'm calling the
Speaker 4: rebirth because I decided to just kind of lay down
Speaker 4: this whole addictive grind and the past, and because the
Speaker 4: past is no longer me.
Speaker 3: I don't live there anymore. That's not who I am.
Speaker 4: So a lot of the shows that want to book
Speaker 4: me to just do the one off addictive, I can't
Speaker 4: do it anymore.
Speaker 3: I stopped.
Speaker 1: So you ain't perform the record, Moore.
Speaker 4: Not just as it is. No, I will perform the record.
Speaker 4: I'll perform it within what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1: But I got you.
Speaker 4: I want to go and do these one off you
Speaker 4: know the track date I want it.
Speaker 1: So what does the show look like?
Speaker 3: It's a band even you haven't even asked me what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: I'm leading. I'm leading and leading.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: My rebrand is called THAC Truth Hurts Collective and it's
Speaker 4: a band experience and the music is phenomenal. I already
Speaker 4: told you earlier that I didn't write most of it.
Speaker 4: The team of people around me.
Speaker 2: Now it's like, oh my, so it's a full collective
Speaker 2: that it's a it's a collective.
Speaker 1: Everyone that's in it.
Speaker 3: It's a band. Okay, yep, yep, yep ye.
Speaker 1: Can we can you introduce them? Can you? Just so
Speaker 1: there are no people you know.
Speaker 3: Well, the main I won't.
Speaker 4: I won't introduce the band, but I'll say this, the
Speaker 4: main two people that are our partners with me, and
Speaker 4: this is my girl, Alexis. Her name is Alexis Nicole.
Speaker 4: I call her Alex.
Speaker 3: She is man. She's phenomenal. She works.
Speaker 4: Alongside Mike Karen. Right now she's doing some stuff with APG.
Speaker 4: But she is ridiculous, like the family of writers and
Speaker 4: producers and what she has going on in her camp
Speaker 4: alone is just crazy. So I partnered with her and
Speaker 4: had her help me produce jac Okay. So when I
Speaker 4: tell you these records is crazy, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 4: how crazy. One of the records is the intro to
Speaker 4: the album. It's so crazy that the dream came in
Speaker 4: and he loved it so much. He just put put
Speaker 4: down a vocal on it.
Speaker 1: Oh so the dream is on the project too, Yes,
Speaker 1: nice is.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you hear it once we get out
Speaker 4: of here. But crazy, So I'm excited again. It's it's
Speaker 4: a rebirth and a rebrand and it is where I
Speaker 4: feel that I've always supposed to be in this music
Speaker 4: life of mine, that I should have just shut up
Speaker 4: until now, But no, addictive, addictive is a very integral
Speaker 4: part of mine.
Speaker 2: But I could, I could just see how what what
Speaker 2: makes me happy about it? And even before I even
Speaker 2: hear it is just seeing you light up.
Speaker 1: You saw me light up absolutely like when you when
Speaker 1: you spoke about you let up.
Speaker 3: It's everything, And that's why we do this. That's why
Speaker 3: we do this. That's why we do this.
Speaker 1: Like the other stuff that comes along with that's cool,
Speaker 1: and it would make you feel good.
Speaker 4: Doesn't make you feel like you're doing what you're supposed
Speaker 4: to do with your life, does it? Does it send
Speaker 4: a message that can just kind of help somebody feel
Speaker 4: better about life. And I very much am integrating how
Speaker 4: both and wellness in this journey because that's what got
Speaker 4: me where I am now. So I'm getting my uh
Speaker 4: my pilate certification, my health and wellness certification, all of
Speaker 4: that sound bath and everything. Well, no, no, sound bad
Speaker 4: and I don't know sound no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no.
Speaker 1: I went to asleep.
Speaker 4: Sleep is important. Sleep is important. You know you know
Speaker 4: how many people can't sleep? Do you know how many
Speaker 4: people can? Health and wellness is the biggest business right
Speaker 4: now and for the future because pharmaceuticals have let us down,
Speaker 4: so and everything else has let us down. Music, all
Speaker 4: kinds of things have let us down. So people are
Speaker 4: just trying to get well and and find the right
Speaker 4: way to get well. So that's what helped me get
Speaker 4: to this point.
Speaker 1: You got to start teaching pilate. Still last with the
Speaker 1: music playing.
Speaker 3: I'm allowed to be flying through the sky, And is
Speaker 3: it you're doing the turn up wings? You ready?
Speaker 1: Which one you're doing? No, I'm not ready. That's ship hard.
Speaker 4: I do the Reformer, I do the Matt and I'm
Speaker 4: trying to graduate to the Cadillac, the one where you.
Speaker 3: Suspended. Yeah, all of that, No, not me.
Speaker 4: I'm a watch watching this good yeah, watch watching this
Speaker 4: good little stress.
Speaker 1: It absolutely is that's my a. You go do the
Speaker 1: turn that you got the you got like.
Speaker 3: D X playing or you got what No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I got T playing.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's more chill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's chill. It's well, it's R and B
Speaker 3: T c's R and B.
Speaker 1: I gotta hear this.
Speaker 3: You gotta hear it.
Speaker 1: I gotta hear this.
Speaker 4: You like it?
Speaker 1: I do too, some real I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Tank to hear too. I think I think both of
Speaker 3: y'all don't.
Speaker 1: Like it a lot.
Speaker 2: So in all these you know, amazing health and wellness
Speaker 2: things that you're doing, you brought something today.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I did? You know a lot of my family have
Speaker 3: an a k for me. I'm also known as water.
Speaker 4: I'm the water Queen, not not for reasons that a
Speaker 4: lot of these rappers talk about water. That's not the
Speaker 4: water we're talking about.
Speaker 3: I love water.
Speaker 4: I'm a water connoisseur and red wine connoisseur. Wow, but
Speaker 4: water is my my thing since when I was in
Speaker 4: high school. I carried jugs of water around with me then.
Speaker 4: So now I'm just like gotten deeper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the big you know, the.
Speaker 1: Big gallon Stanley cup.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a Stanley cup. I had a gallon
Speaker 4: back then. I have my Stanley's now. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I was on some athletic I was. I was a
Speaker 4: head cheerleader. I did all of that stuff back then.
Speaker 4: So I always had like a big thing of water.
Speaker 4: So he was like, Yo, why you got all this
Speaker 4: water with you at school? I always have water. And
Speaker 4: so I met a good friend of mine and we
Speaker 4: and we got together because this is this is very healing.
Speaker 4: I've come through a journey of being botched from having
Speaker 4: breasting plants, and so I had to heal myself through that.
Speaker 4: And what I found healed me the best was hydronated
Speaker 4: water peptides that I'm taking now. A lot of little things,
Speaker 4: but that's why I say I want a health and
Speaker 4: wellness journey as well, which is what got me to
Speaker 4: the point where I decided what I want to offer
Speaker 4: an artistry because.
Speaker 3: I finally know who I am and what I want
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: You want to teach, I.
Speaker 3: Want to give people through living.
Speaker 4: Though I think when you teach, it's kind of like preaching,
Speaker 4: and I think the old school way of preaching is
Speaker 4: dying and the traditional way of like, people want to
Speaker 4: see you live your truth in order for them to
Speaker 4: believe it. Yeah, you can talk talk to I found
Speaker 4: this with my children. You can talk to you blue
Speaker 4: in the face, but they won't hear you until they
Speaker 4: see in you what you're trying to tell them. And
Speaker 4: so I figured that I really can't give people what
Speaker 4: I'm not living myself, especially at my age after I've
Speaker 4: gone through everything that I've gone through.
Speaker 1: So this so this is.
Speaker 4: Hydrogen rich, hydrogen rich water, which is good for people
Speaker 4: if you've had any type of disease from cancer to anything,
Speaker 4: anything that you've gone through in your body that's taking
Speaker 4: your body down.
Speaker 3: Water is a natural healer. Yes, yes, it's so.
Speaker 1: Where is it available online? So it's already.
Speaker 4: This is colony online. Just look Upmindbodymatrix dot com.
Speaker 1: And this is this is your is your product.
Speaker 3: I'm partnered with. Yeah, so but I am the ambassador
Speaker 3: and were.
Speaker 1: All about it business. Yes, is there is there a
Speaker 1: certain place online?
Speaker 2: Is there a this is mind body Matrix, Mind body
Speaker 2: matrix dot com.
Speaker 3: This is get your get your body right, get your
Speaker 3: mind right.
Speaker 1: Let that flow through.
Speaker 3: But I will have some of those products coming.
Speaker 1: So all right, you know we want to feel good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever whatever actually helps the body, that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: We're doing.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 3: Pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 1: No, no, we need to we need some orders to
Speaker 1: go up. So yeah, yeah, I'll get to that.
Speaker 3: I'll get to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get to that.
Speaker 3: But it's the same, it's the same one Instagram as well,
Speaker 3: mind body Matrix.
Speaker 1: Okay, some other things you want to get to. We
Speaker 1: want to know.
Speaker 2: Some of the stuff that the truth about the things
Speaker 2: that you really loved, that you really like, the things
Speaker 2: you came up on.
Speaker 1: So you know, we got this, We got this segment,
Speaker 1: and and let me take let me take on saying
Speaker 1: something for us mm hmm, top fun. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: my notes, you're on top fun. I'm on top my notes.
Speaker 3: Fun, your top f.
Speaker 1: R beasing us.
Speaker 3: All and me songs.
Speaker 1: We've got to know what they thought you Okay, hitting
Speaker 1: his home pay shut top you top f.
Speaker 3: You sang saying saying thank.
Speaker 1: You know my brother didn't Hell's kischen. Yeah he was
Speaker 1: on Broadway. Oh my gosh, she's doing eight shows a week,
Speaker 1: shows a week.
Speaker 3: That's real work.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I always say that this is real work.
Speaker 2: So as tanks so eloquently saying, yes, we want to
Speaker 2: know your top five, your top five R and B singers, first,
Speaker 2: and then your top five R and B songs.
Speaker 4: Well, my top five R and B singers first, Okay,
Speaker 4: start with them, saying Prince Minnie Ribardson, Tina, Marie Phillis, Hyman,
Speaker 4: Anita Baker shot Joe Scott.
Speaker 3: That was seven. Okay, sorry you.
Speaker 1: Got any more? She said so quick too, like I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna keep counting.
Speaker 4: That's why I said quick. And I have this, I
Speaker 4: have this thought that you guys need to who we
Speaker 4: need to do. Help me, you guys, he changed this
Speaker 4: a little bit. Okay, So this is what y'all need
Speaker 4: to do. Y'all need to do it by era. So
Speaker 4: top five songs because it's like cheating the system, right,
Speaker 4: It's like cheating the system because if you say top
Speaker 4: five songs of all time R and B is so
Speaker 4: much mastery out there. You're cheating yourself, right, And I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm cheating all the people that I love.
Speaker 3: So I don't think hang with me, Hang with me,
Speaker 3: Hang with me, okay, hang with me.
Speaker 4: I feel like y'all need to do the top five
Speaker 4: oh G List and the Top five New School List
Speaker 4: because there's some people out here that's really making a
Speaker 4: difference and You know why I say this because I
Speaker 4: heard statements like Jermaine do Pre recently saying all music
Speaker 4: ain't no, you need to dig deeper. There's some shit
Speaker 4: out here that's really masterful, right, and it doesn't get
Speaker 4: enough acknowledgement because sometimes it's not from.
Speaker 3: The States, like they come here and still like Grammys.
Speaker 3: But sometimes it's not from the States.
Speaker 1: They just come and steal Grammys and leave. That's what happens.
Speaker 4: I shouldn't say still still is a harsh word. They
Speaker 4: deserve the Grammys that they get. But I'm saying that
Speaker 4: to say they come and get up, they come and
Speaker 4: get them in, then they go back to their country.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So I say that to say that we should definitely
Speaker 4: applaud what happened from because the nineties was a different era,
Speaker 4: and before the nineties is a different even different era.
Speaker 4: So then till up through the nineties is one era.
Speaker 4: Then pass the two thousands, different era, right, just as important,
Speaker 4: but different. I can't say you're wrong, Okay, so I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say. I'm gonna say, my O G, that's.
Speaker 1: What you said, added this out. I said all that,
Speaker 1: so you could do some other type of ship.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, because I believe. I believe, I believe
Speaker 3: I could fly.
Speaker 4: Okay, so listen, Okay, five R and B songs true
Speaker 4: old school, oh G?
Speaker 1: Not old school?
Speaker 2: Oh G?
Speaker 1: Is it a crime?
Speaker 4: Chic at Last? I am free, golden time of Day.
Speaker 4: I can't get over you, Cranky Beverly. I couldn't pick Casanova,
Speaker 4: Brown Tina, Marie Prince, Beautiful Ones. If I was your girlfriend,
Speaker 4: condition of the Heart, you picked Stevie wondered whole inn
Speaker 4: Vision's album, but Yes, specifically visions of Golden Lady, Top
Speaker 4: five News School.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna stick to five new School?
Speaker 3: I'm a stick to five hard. I have a healthy background.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: I love it yesterday I wrote that for Shand because
Speaker 4: I love that record too. Addictive nigga addictive. If I
Speaker 4: could say five times addictive, I would say addictive. Okay,
Speaker 4: he loves me, Joe, Say yes, Floyd. I was one
Speaker 4: of the first people that acknowledge say yes, so much
Speaker 4: so that Marsha got tired of me saying how much
Speaker 4: I love a song. She called me out in the
Speaker 4: audiences every time because she was like, truth, we know
Speaker 4: you love say yes, Say yes. It's shout out to
Speaker 4: Marsha shout out to Marsha Anniversary long version. Tony Tony
Speaker 4: Tony k One is a new artist. I'm really into.
Speaker 4: She's on my playlist. Love her, do what I Say
Speaker 4: Klanie the song she got Old and Folded at a Bond,
Speaker 4: Love Me Up.
Speaker 3: She's from London, Sasha Keeble, Why I know I should stop?
Speaker 4: Let me stop the Dream. The New Joint is Crazy.
Speaker 4: Blow my Mind is my favorite on the New Dream album.
Speaker 3: That's my shit. Yeah, I'm gonna stop. I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I break all the rules. My name is true. Hi,
Speaker 3: nice to meet you.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Pleasure is mine.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got another segment, and I would like
Speaker 2: you to kind of stay into the confines.
Speaker 1: Of what it is. I try please with you. Where
Speaker 1: you build your votron, you build your super r and
Speaker 1: b artists. Okay, okay, you're with me.
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Okay. You got the voice, you got the stage performance,
Speaker 1: you got the drip, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: they gotta have that fly shit on. And then you
Speaker 1: got the passion of the artists.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: The Genesee Kwa songstress attitude of Lauren Heil Showday Okay,
Speaker 4: so you got you got a hybrid, yes, okay. Performance
Speaker 4: style Prince all right, styling somewhere between Grace Johnson, Michael Jack.
Speaker 4: I love Grace Jones, passionate Michael and Tina Marie.
Speaker 1: You're creating. Yeah, I mean it's amazing, but it's looks
Speaker 1: like the production team.
Speaker 4: I would have.
Speaker 3: The dream Quincy Jones Kelly's pen for real, and I
Speaker 3: would be in there too.
Speaker 1: Hollows a writing camp camp.
Speaker 3: It's noon time. Listen, it's a writing camp. No noon time?
Speaker 1: Did that was so legendary? I was there, legendary. I
Speaker 1: was there. Okay.
Speaker 2: So just so people know the voice, the lead singers
Speaker 2: are esque are Lauren Hell and Shot It's a mixture, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: okay they shared.
Speaker 4: It's a mixture because for me, it's a whole. Like
Speaker 4: I said, Jenn and say Quah of delivery. You know,
Speaker 4: Lauren got that raspiness, she got that because we don't
Speaker 4: really you could sing up and down the scale a
Speaker 4: million times. You could be the best singer out there.
Speaker 3: Can you feel it?
Speaker 1: I gotta feel you gotta feel it. Everything that's something you.
Speaker 4: Offer, is that it's that gravel, is that that shit
Speaker 4: in the throat that everybody can't get. But then you
Speaker 4: want the calm of the calm because delivers without movement,
Speaker 4: like she gives fire and smoke about that life. So
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's all those things.
Speaker 1: And then who do we have as the performance?
Speaker 2: We had Prince performance Prince Purple Rain, Purple Rain Prince,
Speaker 2: so not under the cherry Moon Prince, but purple Rain Prince.
Speaker 4: Because I don't know if you remember when he got
Speaker 4: on that stage and he was trying to prove to
Speaker 4: appolonia debt, she made the wrong choice.
Speaker 1: If there's algae out there, sometimes you get beside yourself.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean he went in that performance, he went in him.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you, listen, let love be the reason, okay,
Speaker 4: and love is the reason you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna perform every time. It's all about love.
Speaker 4: That's what R and B is to me. It's all
Speaker 4: about love. It's not about love. We lose some things, absolutely,
Speaker 4: they lose some things along the way, so you know.
Speaker 1: And then we had Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: The passion of.
Speaker 4: Our Drip Drip, because the calm of what Mike did
Speaker 4: you know with with with the shirt and the pants
Speaker 4: like he gave you drip, but he gave you calm drip.
Speaker 3: It was like a affusion.
Speaker 4: Yes, you could see Mike with just them Penny Loaf
Speaker 4: his own, but he got them them gleaming some right,
Speaker 4: and he lets you know what the star because of
Speaker 4: the glean but it was still played down so it
Speaker 4: was relatable.
Speaker 3: But then Grace, she gives you show. It's show time
Speaker 3: with Grace and.
Speaker 4: Boomerang because there's a little bit of that element that
Speaker 4: has to happen when people come see a show. That's
Speaker 4: why they go see circ That's why they go see
Speaker 4: those type of shows, because they want to see a show,
Speaker 4: and that that element has been missing recently.
Speaker 3: So after no, man can't deny this.
Speaker 1: That part and our passion was who.
Speaker 3: Tina?
Speaker 1: Our passion turn.
Speaker 4: Tina, Tina, Marie, Tina Marie, I should say Tina Turner,
Speaker 4: God damned.
Speaker 1: So looking healthy, trying to be helpful out.
Speaker 3: Here because it's all about the Tina.
Speaker 1: You know, I love the team. I do too, I
Speaker 1: love And then the writing came.
Speaker 3: The riding camp is colorful? Can I explain writing camp?
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, back in the day they used to
Speaker 4: say that that Quincy Jones could be in the room
Speaker 4: with Bootsy or Raphael's a decor, like five different greats
Speaker 4: could be in one room, right of course, and create
Speaker 4: can't do that anymore?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 4: People arrogant? I'm saying that to say it doesn't happen
Speaker 4: like it used to happen.
Speaker 3: So I brought that bag. Yeah, I brought that back,
Speaker 3: and in my votron, I bought that bag.
Speaker 1: You brought that.
Speaker 3: I bought that back.
Speaker 1: And I respect that all those.
Speaker 4: Greats in one room, masteries coming out of that room.
Speaker 4: You mean, mastery is coming out that room.
Speaker 1: All right. I got one more thing for you, Colub.
Speaker 1: What we got nature name what you did?
Speaker 3: Don't say? She oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Very important part of the show, is it, very very
Speaker 2: very ver part of this show? What will you tell
Speaker 2: us the story?
Speaker 1: Funny?
Speaker 2: Are fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The only
Speaker 2: rule to the game is you can't say no names.
Speaker 3: I don't have no stories like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a funny story. You don't got to
Speaker 1: be it, don't have to be fucked up.
Speaker 4: No, I don't have stories where you wouldn't know who
Speaker 4: I was talking about if I said the story.
Speaker 3: I got too many.
Speaker 1: Stories I know.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll tell the shortest one.
Speaker 1: Listen is show Danny true hurts. I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be a little edgy, is that okay?
Speaker 1: Job?
Speaker 4: So there was a basketball player who decided that this
Speaker 4: is short the sweet who decided that he wanted to
Speaker 4: put my name in the Hall of fame, a bitch
Speaker 4: as he slept with. But I never slept with him, okay.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I thought lying on your d
Speaker 4: was played out and was back in in in the eighties, like.
Speaker 3: Who does that?
Speaker 4: Like my mother used to always say, who does that?
Speaker 4: So I couldn't believe. And at the time I didn't
Speaker 4: know this person right or you even know them? No,
Speaker 4: seven foot fulies at the time, huge basketball player, y'all
Speaker 4: know what I'm talking about. Anyway, I ain't saying names.
Speaker 4: I was so disturbed by this because I knew that
Speaker 4: I hadn't done anything with this person.
Speaker 3: I went to Dre, I said, we gotta write a song.
Speaker 3: We gotta write a song.
Speaker 4: Because I feel disrespected, I feel bamboozled, I feel lit on,
Speaker 4: I feel I don't.
Speaker 3: Know what the fuck I feel. I feel like I
Speaker 3: want to write about it.
Speaker 4: So we wrote this song. When I tell you, this
Speaker 4: song so fucking high, it's called lying. It's called lying
Speaker 4: on yo. Blank space right. It doesn't say it just
Speaker 4: says lying on. Yo.
Speaker 3: I tell you this song is so crazy it never made.
Speaker 1: The light of day.
Speaker 3: But the song is ignorant, did you I.
Speaker 4: Didn't say it, just I just I just I just
Speaker 4: wrote about the fact that we the people shouldn't be
Speaker 4: doing that that day and age, or we shouldn't be
Speaker 4: talking to Yeah, come on, why would you do that?
Speaker 3: Because it came back to me through several reliable sources.
Speaker 3: We dated, but we didn't, and so I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: we gotta write a song.
Speaker 1: We gotta write a song.
Speaker 3: I wrote the song. We never released the song.
Speaker 4: The irony of the entire thing is, four years later,
Speaker 4: me and this person became friends, and now we're the
Speaker 4: best of friends.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I told him to his face, you a liar,
Speaker 3: and the truth faint in you.
Speaker 4: And that's how ever, came right.
Speaker 1: But the truth can become your friend.
Speaker 4: And we became the best of friends. And to this
Speaker 4: day we are the best of friends. And he is,
Speaker 4: when I tell you, he is iconic in the game.
Speaker 4: I don't know how the discussion when he never explained.
Speaker 3: He laughed.
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, I feel like the the discussion
Speaker 4: came from an innocent place.
Speaker 3: And he just didn't correct the situation.
Speaker 4: But I called him on bullshit and from that point
Speaker 4: the story ended as a happy ending.
Speaker 3: And now we're homies. I love that we've been homies.
Speaker 1: Faye. Now that that's that's that's a good story. I
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I like I like absolutely absolutely well,
Speaker 1: Miss truth Hurts.
Speaker 2: This has been amazing. You're an amazing person. Your spirit
Speaker 2: is great. I'm so happy that you came and said
Speaker 2: with me like this is important. You're important. Thank you,
Speaker 2: and I want more people to know your story. And
Speaker 2: that's why I love that you've come and hung out.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me, and
Speaker 3: thank you for doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying.
Speaker 3: No, you're not trying. You're doing and I'm doing.
Speaker 1: And we we also were selling water.
Speaker 3: Mind buying matrix Matrix rich water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is on the way, and uh, you know, you
Speaker 2: know Valentine has Valentine candles. Definitely giving it's Truth Hurts
Speaker 2: a candle.
Speaker 3: Where's my candle?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You are not leaving with that one. Got you, I
Speaker 2: got you so you know. I'm Jay Valentine. This is truth, hurts,
Speaker 2: and this has been R and B money.
Speaker 1: Peace,