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Speaker 1: Go with Book. Yeah. Do you think book Bill and KD?

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Speaker 2: His Book scores seventy points in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you block KD shot a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: KD is probably one of the most difficult people to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no. There's nobody really like KD. If

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Speaker 1: you say Dirt could shoot the ball like KD, but

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Speaker 2: there are two different dirties you played with Dame.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How happy are you that he's out of Portland?

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Speaker 1: And should he have made this move sooner? I don't

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Speaker 2: Dame is one of those individuals that he's he's loyal

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Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett huh in Minnesota, you remember how long it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it's nothing wrong with that. Again,

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Speaker 1: Dame of still build a deep ball shooter?

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Speaker 2: What man, that's that's not even fair.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a thirty five footer for your life.

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Speaker 1: One of those guys gotta take it who you won't

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Speaker 1: shoot it for game, for your life, for my life,

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Speaker 2: Since I'm gonna go with since stuff been whooping my ass,

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Speaker 2: Again, when you don't have training camps to Bill Bill

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Speaker 1: The one thing if I ain't said, we got to

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Speaker 1: How did you let that happen? Then let the man

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Speaker 2: right or wrong. Yeah, and I would ride with somebody

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Speaker 2: Of course I've been in situations where things have gone down.

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Speaker 2: So like understanding that and not letting it go outside

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Speaker 1: What's the most important thing? How hard is it to

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Speaker 1: The crazy part is like he shoots a lot of threes, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: He has players that can pass the ball, like dre

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Speaker 1: We'll CEP three get the first ring when you get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to get the championship in Golden State, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Can't nobody fuck with Denver on the West to me,

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised he was so willing to come off

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Speaker 1: Right. Give me you know, because you played with so

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Speaker 1: many great players. I kind of want to get the

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Speaker 1: CEP three in practice, Kobe in practice. CP three in

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Speaker 1: CP will try to probably Kobe will try to beat

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Dwight in there, Okay. And you don't

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Speaker 1: And that's night, little squad. Do you think you let

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Speaker 2: In their prime? I don't think that team works?

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Speaker 1: you don't think it worked? No, Browny, Kobe, all of them? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean Dwhite gonna block the shots, Gonna get you

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Speaker 2: CP three pick and roll with Lebron, Kobe half the ball.

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Speaker 1: Right, So we're gonna sell a lot of ticket back

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with CEP. Should rings matter in an

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Speaker 2: Only in teams only only when you talking on the

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Speaker 1: Team, because can I give you my opinion, I believe

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Speaker 2: Agree and disagree. You got to have a great team.

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Speaker 1: So are you willing to put Karl Malone if that's

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Speaker 2: Because he pushed the game. He changed the game. People,

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Speaker 1: Well you do know what Magic and Bird did because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Magic is killer too, Bird is killer.

437
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: But I'm just so, so what is your definition? How

438
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: how would you define a great player? What? What's a

439
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: great player to you? What is it? Is it some numbers?

440
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: Is it all the NBA selections? Is it all Star?

441
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: Is it MB? Is it MVPs. I'm just we're talking

442
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: about just great players, no ring Because for me, like

443
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: I said, I believe in order to be into the

444
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: greatest conversation, you need titles preference.

445
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: I guess for me, I like, I like mentality, I

446
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: like style, I like charisma, I like I like winners.

447
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: So for me, that's gonna be different than everybody else.

448
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: I want to say it like this, So so think

449
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: about this. Remember that year Cleveland and when was that

450
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: Cleveland and Golden State played?

451
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think bron led.

452
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: The whole in all the staff.

453
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.

454
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: That would be the one time somebody can say somebody

455
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: won a championship or what's the closest to winning a championship?

456
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah by saying right, and I don't even think they won.

457
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: They didn't. They didn't. Ye did it? Well? He yeah,

458
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: he did well, yeah he did the year that was

459
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen when he chased them down. I don't think

460
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: they won. They won twenty sixteenth. Yeah, he led in

461
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: tire finals in points, steel block shots.

462
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like in that sense, that's like winning by yourself.

463
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: You played with Dwight and Orlando, Houston, Washington, LA. Why

464
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: doesn't d how get the respect he deserves? Why doesn't

465
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: he get through? Yeah, we ain't gonna talk about what

466
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: what he got, what he got going on the field.

467
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's sit that aside. Let's talk about the player

468
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: on the court.

469
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: Probably because I think he probably was a little bit

470
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: too goofy, like he played too much in my opinion.

471
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: So like.

472
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: Everybody else don't understand that type of like personality when

473
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: they're thinking of greatness. I guess like it's different. Like

474
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: he has like the smile and he likes to like

475
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: laugh and get along. But you know, having a smile

476
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: and being a killer is you know, I don't know.

477
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: The only person to get that off is Magic.

478
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. What was he like in the locker room? Was

479
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: good teammate? He seemed like I mean, like you said,

480
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: he was very you know, fun, go outgoing, fun loving,

481
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: but I mean, the dude was was a twenty ten,

482
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: twenty ten, twenty fourteen guy. He was a three time

483
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: defensive consecutive Defensive Player of the Year. In his prime,

484
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: he was a top five player, finished second in the

485
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: MVP voting. So they make it seem like the man was.

486
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: I can see if he laughing and joking and giving

487
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: you seven and eight. He laughing and joker give you

488
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen with three and a half blocks.

489
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: He's been disrespected completely for his talent and the things

490
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: that he's done to this game.

491
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: How shocked though you John Wall, he has maned. He

492
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: went through it. I think he had like an acl

493
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: and then towards the ki Lees and then he lost

494
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: his mom. He had a stretch where he really went

495
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: through it. Yeah. Do you think his career is over?

496
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: Nah, it's not. His career ain't over until he put

497
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: it down. But man, he had a rough goal at

498
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: You know, he had some years where it wasn't wasn't

499
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: you know, nobody everybody was struggling that situation right that

500
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: he went through, So where he is at this point

501
00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: is unfortunate.

502
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: There was a situation the Clippers locker room after game

503
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: and they confronted over the playoff. I mean what the

504
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: little toy was a little tun of somebody knew about

505
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: a secret passage? Did you know about that passage?

506
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: I mean everybody that plays in the NBA, they knew

507
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: about the locker rooms are right there right?

508
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: What about it? What? So? What set that off? Uh?

509
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: What set that off?

510
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: There was an altercation or like, you know, words being

511
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: exchanged on the court, and uh, me and one of

512
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: my old teammates, we you know, we was talking to

513
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: each other. And then like again, remember I was talking

514
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 2: about like an outsider, Yeah, getting in in between family business.

515
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: That's the situation. So you're like, okay, yeah, and I

516
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: didn't understand.

517
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: I didn't You.

518
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Didn't understand what you didn't do it? Yeah, I didn't

519
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: hear what he had to say. So you know, the

520
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: person that I am, I wanted to know what he

521
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: has to say.

522
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: Do you ever take it? Okay, in the heat of

523
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: the bottom, they're like, bam in your face, trail up,

524
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: take that. You know what you ain't guard beat? Do

525
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: you take that person? You say, Okay, we're just in

526
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: the game. No, Yeah, it's not.

527
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Personal unless it's disrespectful. So, like there's a few trigger

528
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: words that become disrespectful, and.

529
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: So then you like, hold on now, Okay, yeah you

530
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: got them two of them and now but come on now.

531
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's it's cool. Like if that's what

532
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: you do, that's what you do. You know, I don't

533
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: take it personal because I understand you a basketball player,

534
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: right and this is basketball.

535
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: But I remember I do remember this because Trey plays

536
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: with the Hawks. I'm from Georgia, lived at Atlanta, still got

537
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: a place there. He tried a big h you checked

538
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: the man. Yeah, you can let him all the globe try.

539
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: To fuck Oh, we're not even in Like again, he's

540
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: he's unbelievable, right, And I and seeing them do it,

541
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: and I watched them gearing up to try to like

542
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 2: do it to me, and it was just reaction. It

543
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: wasn't like, you know, I'm like maybe to put me

544
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: on the highlight tape. No, it's not that. Just play

545
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: with your peers, you know.

546
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm that's yeah, that's not for me. You guarded Lebron,

547
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: you guarded Kobe. That's those are your assignment you going

548
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: into the game. What's your mindset going into the game.

549
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: You guarden Kobe? What's your mindset going into the game.

550
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Guarden Lebron and what's your toughest match up? Well, Kobe

551
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: will be the tougher match up. And Kobe is a

552
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: tougher matchup because he's way more relentless.

553
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Bron is more like of He's relentless in a different way.

554
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna make the right play. So bronill beat you up,

555
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: get into the paint and like kick it out, and

556
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: you're like, oh shit, what Kobe is? Kobe will beat

557
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: you up, getting a paint, pump fake you, pump fake you, spin,

558
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: pump fake you again, get you in the air, beat

559
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: you up and one and one. Yeah, So yeah, that's

560
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: that's like complete embarrassment.

561
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: Players under twenty five. You want to build your team

562
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: around you got Zion, you got John It got some issue.

563
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, Anthony, I would go go Luca chet Women, Yama, Tyrese, Haliburton, Mello,

564
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: k Cunningham.

565
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: I like him, you love man. I love Anthony Edwards game.

566
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: He's called.

567
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: He definitely seems like a different animal this year. He's

568
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: super called.

569
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: He would be the first person I like Mellow LaMelo.

570
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: He's real good. Who else did you say? Luca Fluker

571
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: Luca's good. Luca's really good. Tyrese Haliburton Halliburn is really good.

572
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: He's a score.

573
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: You like that trade Halliburton from the Kings for oh

574
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: he's the point guard. Yeah, he's really good. He's he's

575
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: better than what I thought he was like initially. Uh,

576
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: he shoots from from deep. He he can pass the ball,

577
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: like really really well. I think I think you call

578
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: him one that trade. I think the one that trade

579
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: with the bonus bonus is.

580
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Sabonis, He's a triple double steen

581
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: seven one, can rebound, can score, can assist the basketball.

582
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: I think Indiana won that trade too.

583
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they got him on that one.

584
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on wimby Man? I don't think

585
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: I think that he is extraordinary. He's an extraordinary talent.

586
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: Somebody asked me that earlier. They but they compared him

587
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: to KD. Right as far as like scoring the ball,

588
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: and like the way that I try to like explain it.

589
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: I try to say, like he's going to score the

590
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: ball because you know he's he's seventy four and he's

591
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: a guy on his team. The percentage is how you're

592
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: going to be able to tell on who could possibly

593
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: be the better player. So like, wait till the end

594
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: of the season, give you eighty two games, and the

595
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: field goal percentage and the average would kind of determine

596
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: on who would kind of score more points?

597
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: Right, would be better? Did you like the comparison with

598
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Shaq said Winby is Bobo.

599
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: I understood what he was saying completely, because Bobo got

600
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: super skilled. He's super talented. I mean I haven't been

601
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: around him as a teammate or seen him or you know,

602
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: been in a space where I can get an ear

603
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: to why he don't play, but I can see him

604
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: being similar like the times that he did play last year,

605
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: or when he was in Orlando, you know, Lando than

606
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: he was with the Nuggets. He killed in Orlando, Like

607
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: the stretch that he played he was killing. So I

608
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: understand the comparison we talked earlier.

609
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: You said a man is the best player, Then for you,

610
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: at man is the best player in the NBA. Give

611
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: me your top five players, top five.

612
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: Tatum under a certain age.

613
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: Again, the top five player.

614
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: There's too many, Uh, I like book, I like I'm

615
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: gonna go young. I'm like, but I like Anthony Edwards, Luca.

616
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Yo Yo Ki kd uh do you play with? I'm

617
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: knicks who I was gonna wonder if you what you

618
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: thought about him? So how do you think you'll do

619
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: in Houston? Because it seemed to have they playing, well,

620
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: that's a very young team.

621
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like what he does. He comes like his

622
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: coaching background is as a a really good coaching background.

623
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: You know, they have principles, so you know how you say,

624
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: like the heat way where he comes from, they have

625
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: a way as well, right, So those core principles have

626
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: shown that they work throughout the years. They're timeless, and

627
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: it seems like players like playing for him.

628
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: Are you Are you surprised that he was able to

629
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: get a second chance. I don't think. I don't think

630
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: what he did with a numper? I mean, oh he

631
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: did that? Look okay, fat that's between him and his partner.

632
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: They went on their separate ways. But he ain't killed.

633
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Nobody come up? Did he do exactly? I mean, look,

634
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: look you know no, I don't know. Well, I mean anybody,

635
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So like what's saying what we

636
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: say down south? He put his penis in his wallet?

637
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: That doubt what he did? I mean that that's what

638
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: we call it down south.

639
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: So we have a saying where I don't know if

640
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: it's appropriate to say. We could be it out of necessary. Huh,

641
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: we could be it out if necessary. You stay out there,

642
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: they can pussy business, right.

643
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Okay, that's phair enough, that's fair enough. Dylan Brooks, what

644
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: do you think of Brooks? Hard? Nos?

645
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: I like his game. He played hard. He played hard

646
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: as hell. You played in the two biggest markets, New York,

647
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: l A. Which one you like the best?

648
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm Homer?

649
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: You la threw it through Homer. But did you like

650
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: playing in New York? I love playing in New York.

651
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: I think I was too young to appreciate it completely.

652
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Speaker 2: But you know, being at home is home. Ooh, I

653
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: got one for you. He was second around draft pick

654
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: in two four. Who's the Becker? Who's the best second

655
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: round draft pick of all time?

656
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: For me? Yeah? Gilbert? Are you sure?

657
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's who came to my mind first?

658
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: You do it. There's a two time MVP on the

659
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: finals MVP that within the second round, Yo, kitchen.

660
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Oh, Yoki's just cold? Yokis is so called.

661
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: I would let you. I'll let you change it again.

662
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: Change I'm gonna go Gilbert Gilbert is Gilbert is sick.

663
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: He just ain't winning Manus or the man New Yo Kitsch. Gilbert, Draymond,

664
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: Dennis rober, Mark Gasol. I'm not so sure, Dre gil

665
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: mcgil my guy. Yeah, but gil might be. He might

666
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: be thirty fourth on this list. I'm going with Gil.

667
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm going with Gil for sure. What the rookie contract?

668
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: You look at it, Look at the salaries.

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00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: Now, guys about to get a contract, Jason Taytam about

670
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: to get foe under the foe under mill.

671
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: It's beautiful and he twenty five, so he's gonna get

672
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: another contract.

673
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: So he might do a billion dollars in NBA contracts.

674
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Are you surprised?

675
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: Because I just remember what was it like five years

676
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: ago Mike Conley had the biggest contract, one hundred and

677
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: fifty one million. I'm not surprised. That means the game

678
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: is growing, and that's a beautiful thing. Like you always

679
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: want to see people behind you get better. Evolution is

680
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: always a good thing, right, What was some of your

681
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: best purchases? I mean, you come in as a rookie,

682
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: your seventh round draft pick. You wouldn't a lottery pick,

683
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: so so what was what was one of your best

684
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: purchases one of your worst purchases.

685
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: That's a rookie. Uh.

686
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: I guess being able to get my mom a house.

687
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 2: That was the best feel good thing for me. Probably

688
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: the worst thing appreciating assets, jewelry, dumb ship.

689
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well so ever rookie, you know, you got to

690
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: take care but you got to take the vets out

691
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: where you take them and how much you see so

692
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: like for us, it was different.

693
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: They just make us do well. I don't even know

694
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: if they do that now, But when I was a rookie,

695
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: we used to have to like grab the bags, help

696
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: the equipment manager take the bags off the plane. Uh

697
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: in every city carry people's bags and stuff. We have

698
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: to do that. But like I have vets. That was

699
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: like super up, Like they were real rich, so they

700
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: would like, you know, I didn't. They didn't get no

701
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: issue out of me, so they would take care of me.

702
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: The uh l A. There have been a lot a

703
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: lot of home invasions. There's been a lot of you know,

704
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: robberies with celebrity. How do you advise players to move

705
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: in la.

706
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: Don't be flashy, like keep your head on the swivel.

707
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: At all times and keep your hair on igs because

708
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: they couldn't get it.

709
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: Stay off, I g especially if you're not if you're

710
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: not from here, right, try to stay as respectful as

711
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: you possibly can.

712
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Is that why you keep such a little profile.

713
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: I just feel like I like to move in the

714
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: shadows period, right.

715
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, your younger brother passed away falling in a hotel room.

716
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: How did that impact trouble?

717
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: My brother dying? I think it made me U It

718
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: helped me. It helped me more so than like it

719
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: hurt me. And that's whird. It sounds crazy, but it

720
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: allowed me to like pick up a ball and like

721
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: put my pain into all the basketball instead of the

722
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: other way, because it could have went the other way too.

723
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: That's probably that I got in a lot of trouble

724
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: when I was younger around that time. But basketball helped you, Coote.

725
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: Basketball definitely helped. It gave me an outlet to let

726
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: you know, all the emotions out.

727
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: And dating advice, I mean haven't been eighteen years. You

728
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: mentioned you have three kids. Is there any advice that

729
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: you gave rookies or that you received from the best

730
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: when you got into the league that you later didn't

731
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: in turn passed along.

732
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Stop lying. Be honest. You know, I feel like and

733
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: a position where you know you have everything that you

734
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: need or you want. It's no need for you to

735
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: lot to nobody. So just be honest with who you

736
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: are and what you're about, and people that like you

737
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: gonna like you.

738
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: Anyway. I read that Terrell Lewens came to your Clipper trial.

739
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Why was t O there? I mean, y'all played together,

740
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: y'all cool like that. I mean support system. Now you

741
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: know what's crazy? T Oh just is I feel like

742
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: he just loves the gym. He's a gym rat completely,

743
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: and uh he happened to be there at the time

744
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: and he was in there watching that was that was dope.

745
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: Teal swear he could he believe he could have played

746
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: in the NBA. He probably felt he probably could have

747
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: as he started a little bit earlier. He's super athlete.

748
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: He could do everything.

749
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: Was he good? I mean, I'm sure he like he

750
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: like he's been open run, he's played with some of

751
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: the players. You think he got a decent game.

752
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: I think he got a really good game for a

753
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: professional athlete that played another sport.

754
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: What NBA player you think if they would have started early,

755
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: could have played in the NFL.

756
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards. I like Anthony Edwards. How you like Brian?

757
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: What's next?

758
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: What? What's next for Trouble Reason?

759
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: What's next for me?

760
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

761
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: I like to say that when you see it and

762
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: when you hear about it, then you're gonna do it. Yeah, silence,

763
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: super solid. People can't take shit from you when they

764
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: don't know about it.

765
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trouble Reason here, let's have a drink. Congress eighteen

766
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: years all the best bro st chairs.

767
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle pa price,

768
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 2: Want a slice?

769
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Speaker 1: Got the brother? Dis swap all my life. I'll be

770
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: grinding all my life.

771
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: Yea, all my life, grinding all my life.

772
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Sacrifice, hustle back the price, Want a slice? Got the brother?

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00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: Dis swap all my life. I'd be grinding all my life.