WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Excited or Concerned? 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.040 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:15.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.200 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.320 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.240 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:32.880 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us A 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:39.040 bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, December twenty sixth, 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:42.080 twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number ninety six. Welcome 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.680 to the latest edition of The Break. We are live 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.600 from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, presented 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.560 by mill of Ltte, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.280 We're coming off a big win. Cowboys win forty to 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.480 thirty four. They stay in contention for the NFC East title. 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:02.120 Lots of things to talk about there because Philadelphia looks 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.479 like they may have lost their their right tackle there. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.120 They're one of their cornerbacks is now out. I don't 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.160 know if the quarterback's gonna play. There's a lot of 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.720 things going on with Philadelphia, so Cowboys still in it. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.800 We'll see how this thing goes over the last two weeks. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.000 And I just read this morning that Tennessee actually their 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.160 game all, their final game of the season, really is 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.080 what counts for them. This game might not matter at 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.160 all for them. Again, lots of things think about. We'll 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.800 get into some of that other stuff later, but today 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.000 we're going to focus on the game and a rehash 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.240 what happened on Saturday afternoon. Let's start the stories of 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.920 the game. Nick, what did you think was the big 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.360 overall storyline coming out of this game? Dak? I thought 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:43.840 Dak Prescott showed the mental toughness that he always preaches, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.280 and that that that you want your quarterback to have. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.440 He threw another interception and it's tend to nothing before 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:54.320 anyone's even settled down, and he comes back, gets booed, 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.040 comes back and has a great finish to that game, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.800 and he just basically willed the offense to scoring that 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.720 many points. And so you know, I mean, he's got 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.560 his flaws, but the stuff you love about Dak was 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:12.040 on display there after that pick. Yeah. I mean, there 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.040 are a lot of different guys that stood out in 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.520 that game in general, but I think that Dak absolutely 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.760 takes to win overall because of that. I mean, as 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.639 soon as that interception happened, and that one was absolutely 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.640 all on him. There's no discussion in that. It's not like, 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.480 oh it was somebody, No, this was all Dak. But 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.720 the fact that he has that mental toughness and to 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.640 keep like stay focused and come back and play the 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.400 way that he did, I think he shows the reason 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.600 why he's here and why so many other people back 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.040 him up. And he was able to finish that game. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.680 In that game, I mean, the defense got a lot 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.919 of takeaways later on, but I think the way that 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.959 the offense was able to carry the game was really good. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.280 And this is a part of the year right now 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.360 where it seems that the offense is going to have 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.040 to keep stepping up their game to kind of be 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.680 able to win games with kind of some of the 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.480 defensive struggles that they've had so far. It's a resilient 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.640 football team. It's very resilient, and they got down a 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.000 couple of different times look kind of bad. Even the 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.079 final drive of the game was just you know, you're 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.400 holding on to everything you got, and you know they 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.959 were able to take advantage as you mentioned, Derek, of 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.320 the right tackle Lane Johnson being out, they put our 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.400 guy Nick Driscoll in there and Driscoll, like Fowler, says 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.480 not today, not on fourth down. You're not going to 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.160 block me today. And so now he's back in Gardner 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.240 Mitchiw's lap and he's you know, basically making him throw 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.880 the ball away. But the way this team is able 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.720 to create turnovers, the way they're able to keep playing, 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.000 they keep shuffling guys in and out of the lineup. 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.960 They're trying to figure out I from McKinsey, Alexander's any good. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.440 You know it's not his fault. Oh wait, the ball 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.400 goes inside to catch. Okay, get right on the field. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.240 We're gonna show of Bland back into the inside. I mean, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.520 they are doing everything in their power. They're taking a 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.080 guy they've had for what ten days and throwing him 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.760 out their receiver on third and thirty and saying, listen, bro, 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.040 you go down there as fast as you can. You're 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.600 gonna have to probably beat an all pro corner to 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.719 get there. And by the way, the safety is going 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.280 to turn the wrong way, so just keep running as 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.240 fast as you can until he turns back around, and 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.320 then the balls down the field. You guys were talking 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.680 about Dak, You're absolutely right about that. It's just a 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:32.200 very resilient football team to win that game the other day. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.360 It's interesting they've been talking about resilience as kind of 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.640 the theme throughout the season. He goes back to training 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.840 camp when the coach have been talking to him about 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.360 this term and saying this over and over, and literally 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.120 Week one they lose their quarterback. And so when you 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.880 look at this team and what they've been able to 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.920 do this year, I think resilient is about the best 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.599 way you can put it for them. Let's talk about 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.599 a couple of moments, because I do think Brian, you 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.080 mentioned that last drive, but I think there were the 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.240 two final drives that the Cowboys had where my opinion, well, 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.279 they made some really questionable decisions and some of those 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.120 decisions could have cost them. But I wanted to get 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.240 your opinions. Let's start first. It was following the interception 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.719 by darn Bland, roughly three or six left in the 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.120 fourth quarter. Games tied thirty four, thirty four, first and 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.440 ten to Philadelphia thirty four. It's an incomplete pass. They 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.920 decided to throw the ball second and ten. They get 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.159 a five yard pass to Brown, so it gets third 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.480 and five at the Philadelphia twenty nine with two twenty 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.320 eight left in the game, again they opt to pass 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.320 in completion. They end up having to kick a forty 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.200 eight yard field though they do take the lead thirty 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.359 seven thirty four, but they leave two twenty four on 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.120 the clock. Nick, and you and I were talking about 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.320 it in the press box. What were your thoughts in 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.080 that moment, because going back to last week, the coach 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.880 said we were trying to be aggressive, we wanted to 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.359 go ahead and win the game. Seems like that was 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.400 the same mantra this week. What do you think. I 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.960 don't agree with it. I think that you gotta either 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.160 burn some timeouts for the Eagles or get it to 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.960 the two minute warning or both. And I think that 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:02.240 the next drive show you just that they have abilities 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.000 to run the football without running it right up the middle. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.839 Either it's Dak, it could be Tony Pollard on the outside, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.520 could be different things. But do something that you can 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.520 still run. Be somewhat aggressive, but at the same time 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:18.200 you're forcing the Eagles to make a decision. Yeah, he's 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.240 I mean, four minute football is not great for this 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.960 team at times, especially the last two weeks. I think 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.400 you got away with one this week. To me again, 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.719 it's about the condition of your team. It's about the 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.760 condition of your defense. It's like I even Gardner Minshew, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.840 they're they're really not without Jalen Hurts. You could kind 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.600 of see they're a different running team. They's it was 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.240 three yards to carry without Jalen Hurts. I mean, Dallas 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.600 is so now it turns into all this playing past defense. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.719 You're trying to figure out the secondary. They've got guys 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:54.400 at Smith making leaping catches over the head catches Dallas Goddard. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.040 I mean, you just don't want to put your defense 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.640 back through that. And so I mean that that drive 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.680 and the last two h seven of the game, you 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:08.239 know where Dak runs out of bounce and you're like, god, why, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.080 and you know they still got timeouts and there's still 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.680 time left. And I got to the point where we 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.480 were talking about myself and Zach Woolchuk, do you go 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.440 for it on fourth down to just try and kill 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.120 it here? You just try and get to call your 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.559 maybe your best two point play and try and score 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.559 touchdown here and in the game. But kicking the field 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.720 goal was, you know, it was the right thing considering 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:34.120 how fast Philadelphia moved down the field, you know, so 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.480 that those are the things that give you that pause 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.480 of man, you've got game in hand, you've got the turnovers, 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.400 and now you're putting your team back in harm's way. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.640 That was tough. I think they got really fortunate the 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.040 way that game ended there. What's confusing to me is, 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.160 I mean, we know the team. They know the team. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.520 We don't. We don't know them as well as they do, 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.520 but we we got a pretty good hand of the team. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.640 And to me, when we're watching the game, any game 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.720 and it comes home too like a questionable decision, it 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.920 seems clear to us as we're watching it, all they 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.280 should have done this or they shouldn't have done that. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:17.520 I like, why do they not have this? Like why 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.960 do they not see the game as we see them 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.560 see it as as well? You know? Yeah, Well, to me, 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.720 I think it's Coach talked about it last week and 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.280 it is completely different lenses. And by the way, one's 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.320 not necessarily right over the other. It's just how you 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.280 prefer it. He I think, is opting to say we're 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:38.480 going to be aggressive and and we're gonna say that 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.920 even if it doesn't work out our way, we're going 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.160 for the win. And by the way, sometimes the analytics 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.920 tells you be aggressive. I don't know that I agree 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.720 with that in this situation. I didn't agree with it 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.079 last week either, but but at the end of the day, 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.520 it worked out for him this week. Right, Well, he 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.400 told you all you needed to know. He went for 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.000 it on fourth and seven, you know, And you're fortunate 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.200 that t Y Hilton draws a passing or a defensive 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.199 holding penalty there, because that's one of those things you're 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.280 kind of like in a game like this, just punt it, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.880 punt it and see if see if you can hold him, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.160 see if you can get a stop. But him staying 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.280 aggressive and all that, I mean, it's it. I really 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.120 thought he was going to go for him fourth down. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.160 I really thought him, like, man, he's calls it, No Moss. 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.320 I thought he was in that no Moss moment where 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.360 it's like, call play, let's see if we can if 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.640 we pin him, we pin him, and we'll see if 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.960 we can play. But that, man, that's a that's a 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.960 rough that's a rough, rough way to operate right there. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.240 For sure. Ironically, Nick, you were kind of having that 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.200 same kind of back and forth. Should they go for it? 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:38.680 Here because you were thinking the same thing. What were 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.480 we thought? Well, I was trying to, you know, do math, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.520 which is never a good thing. But I was like, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.520 you know, you you kick a field goal, and you 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.199 put him to the twenty five and they've got to 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.520 score seventy They got seventy five yards to beat you. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.880 If you go for it, you could put them away, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.080 and if not, you put them at the one. Yeah, 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.800 so now one or two. So now you've got to 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.600 go sixty five yards for them to begin a field goal, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.280 you know, And and they're pinned back, and their play 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.160 calling is not going to be the same play calling. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.880 It just can't. I mean, especially when you right tackle 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.199 the white. That's safety if you if you hold in 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.360 the end zone. So it's gonna be quick, quick, quick, 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.520 and I think that it'll take them a little longer 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.880 to get there. So yeah, I was I was thinking, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.720 maybe just just try to put it, put it away, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.280 if you if you would have penned, if you think 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.240 about penning them if they have no timeouts. Yeah, right, 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.160 that's that's the thing that that that's when I was 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.680 going through it in my mind and I try and 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.200 play these games like, Okay, how would like, to me, 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.119 the best that ever was was the Bill Parcels. Parcels 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.240 had a guy named Ray Hanley that was responsible, you know, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.800 the Giants days, the Super Bowl days where he Ray 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.560 click over, Ray, how many No, I need? How many 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.360 first down I need? You need one coach and need 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.200 won first down and you could carry it, you know. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.760 And so you're talking through all this stuff. But when 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.720 they have timeouts left, I'm thinking, like, man, you probably 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.680 have to kick the field goal here because you can't. 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.480 You can't just you know, you can't. Just if you 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.320 made them burn them all, then you pin them. Now 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.520 you're it's a little bit different. They've got they can't 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:10.880 throw the ball in the middle of the field. The 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.680 stuff's going up the sidelines and things like that. So 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.640 that's that's part of not getting all those timeouts off 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.880 the board. Yeah, and you look at that that you've 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.680 that that following drive there where it was after the 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.040 fumble recovery. So they've gotten the field goal, they've taken 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.320 the lead, they get a fumble, Yeah, they get a fumble. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.720 Two h seven's left, they got a three point lead. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.720 And then on first and nineteen, great run by Dak Yeah, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.560 Jack runs out of bound. Yeah, gives them the time out, 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.760 basically basically stopping the clock there. And then you get 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.280 to a situation where's first and goal in Dallas, opts 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.200 to throw instead of run, they get a negative nine 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.840 yards on a sack, and and it just kind of 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.280 to me. I'm looking at that and I'm thinking, that's 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.680 first and goal at the five. Why are you not 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.920 running the ball? Yeah? I mean, do you guys think 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.360 that in some of these instances, maybe they're just not 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.200 im okay with throwing it because it's one second to go. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.600 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it's inca because 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.720 it's close. But but don't take a nine yard sack. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.640 I mean, I felt like Dak was getting was thinking 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.679 about last week and being like, oh I should have 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.080 taken a sack or whatever. No, just throw it. Don't 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.719 give nine yards because they probably score a touchdown if 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.839 the second down or third down, maybe fourth down. At 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.000 that point, it was hard to get back through there. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.280 So I think he just had a mental lapse there 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.280 those two plays. Two plays. Yeah, that's also my thought. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.600 Though I agree with you it didn't matter to throw 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.600 or passing that instance, But the way I look at it, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.120 is your running game with Zeke Elliott, you can pick 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.440 up those short yards if even if even if on 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.800 that run he picks up two, and now you're second 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.280 and goal at the three. I think at that point, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.640 I'm just continuing to pound the ball. I already have 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.719 a three point lead. My goal at that point is 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.640 to take all the timeouts and to leave the clock 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.160 as much as I can. And if I got to 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:52.960 kick a field goal, great, but I'm gonna leave them 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.280 in those worst a position as possible, right, you know? Yeah, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:59.480 they these officials though with Alex Alex kemp and I 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.920 don't want to make it, but the whole game, you know, 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.240 they let him play. Oh yeah, they really let him play. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.440 Because on the third and seven call with minute fifty, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.480 Dalton Schultz gets called, they hold him, they tackle him 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.679 in the end zone, and they don't call it. So 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.040 you're thinking, like, you know, they're probably looking at They're 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.840 gonna watch the tape and see that they're gonna go, well, okay, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.880 that's part for the course. But Parsons got held. You know, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.520 Tyrant Smith was holding in the game. It was they 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.520 were letting him play. That was letting him play. And 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.480 so if you're thinking you're gonna get a call him 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.400 third and seven in the end zone that could maybe 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.400 give me the first down to kill that game. No, 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.880 these officials were going to let the players decide it. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.920 Let's go ahead, and oh, real quick before we go 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.400 to break though, I did want to ask this a 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.640 bigger picture question about game management. Are you concerned these 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.280 last two games there have been some bad decisions or 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.280 I shouldn't say that, there have been some different decisions 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.520 and what we would have made that being said, how 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.079 concerned are you about it? Oh? I'm concerned, just because 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.720 but I'm a media guy. I was once involved with 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.559 all if never was a coach. I mean I was 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.960 a coach in college, but not in the NFL level. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.520 But I've been around enough games to where I know 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.720 how you're supposed to like keep clock moving. The clock 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.840 can be your ally in this way, and you know, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.319 if you can make them burn timeouts and put them 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.880 in a different situation, then you can maybe dictate the 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.800 game in your direction. I'm absolutely concerned because I've seen 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.960 it back to back weeks. One week they got away 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.160 with it, the other week they didn't get away with it. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.440 And I think that's the thing that you know, these 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.480 games they play, they play the games like this, these games, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.960 these playoff games are going to be We saw basically 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.520 Tampa last night and their situation and how they needed 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.240 the clock and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm I'm 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:43.320 a little bit concerned. I understand their mentality, but it 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:49.400 does scare me because they haven't shown consistency in it, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:54.280 and when it comes it's just you're cutting it close. Now, 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.240 we're about to end the season and that's it. When 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.880 you get to the playoffs, that it's gonna come down 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.080 to that. And it scares me that it comes out 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.640 to a moment like that, the last few minutes of 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.920 a game, and they tend to play games are pretty close, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.400 so you know, those are crucial moments there and some 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.880 of those decisions that seemed clear to us while we're 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.880 watching it. But I get their aggressiveness. I just it 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.080 does scare me, and I hope I don't know, because 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.840 then if they're too conservative too, then you criticize that 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.480 as well. So it's just like it's not a win 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.680 win situation here, so it's just either way you're gonna 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:37.000 get criticized. So I'd rather them be aggressive. But I 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.720 don't know. It's just well, one week they're aggressive and 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.080 then next week they're not. That's kind of it's you know, 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.240 I mean they went the third and ten. I mean, 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.280 like I say, I'm surprised he didn't go for it 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.080 on fourth down. I think the only reason he didn't 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.960 go for a fourth down because they had that time 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.240 out left. But you could have gotten rid of that 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.920 by the way you sequenced your place. You could have 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.520 made them burn their time. There's a way to be aggressive, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.840 but also will be a little smarter about it. Nick. Now, 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.360 I'm not really concerned. I think they're you know, they've 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:09.800 I think a lot of times we look at clock 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.440 management when it's when it's bad, and I think there's 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.040 a lot of times that just when it goes, you know, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:15.760 like a Houston game, you go down, you go down, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.960 you score twenty five seconds to go whatever. Like, you know, 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.800 I think a lot of times it's pretty good. I'm 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.800 not too worried about it. But yeah, like the Amber said, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.520 it is a balance of being like I want to 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.680 be aggressive, when do I pull back when? And it's 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.360 not the easiest thing in the world to have a 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.520 mentality that that does kind of go back and forth. So, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.080 I mean, these games are gonna be close. We know it. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.680 For the playoff game, it's going to come down to 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.560 the end. It's going if it's in Tampa Bay's definitely 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.400 going to come down to me, no doubt about it. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.720 And so that's just you better not leave. And I 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.520 think you have to be super aggressive there because if 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.640 you don't, if you just give them chances, then you're 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.720 not gonna win. Yeah, you're playing that kind of team. Yeah, 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.160 I think you're right. Yeah. To your point though, is 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.640 if you're Mike McCarthy and you lose that game to 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.360 Tom Brady, say in the last and you're like, your 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.680 argument is, or if the media asked, well, why did 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.520 you do this? We're playing against Tom Brady, history will 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.679 tell you that man is going to do it. You know, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.800 fifty percent of his career has been played in Super Bowls. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.200 To think about that, Okay, let's not act like that. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.000 You know that we're playing like you know, you're you're 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.840 playing somebody different, you know. But anyway, yeah, you can 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:28.400 get away. You have to coach games differently against Brady, 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:33.359 Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes. You have to coach game you 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.119 have to play outside the box because your argument is like, hey, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.800 look who we're playing against. You think do you think 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.680 I want to give them any any time? No, I'm not. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:48.440 So you're rooting for the Packers, Yes, I am to. Yeah, 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:49.960 I would love I would love for there to be 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.720 teams below us in the seating who are good teams 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.120 or teams that can knock bigger teams off. I mean, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.760 like could go to Minnesota, love San Francisco and be somebody. Well. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.960 The thing about it is, though, too to me, I 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.399 think the Commanders are that team. The Commanders, what's happening. 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.000 But with their quarterback situation, Now, if they got they 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.560 got they got worked, they got worked in that Giants 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.160 game on a call and San Francisco nobody wants to play. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.679 You know that situation, you will see you get the 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.320 win against the Giants. Put yourself in with the position 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.840 the Giants are in right now. You know they lost 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.800 last week. So you know, if you're the if you're 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.920 the Commanders, you're got the eight wins, you're probably gonna 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.760 go lose to San Francisco. You're probably gonna lose. They 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.879 just did. But but that's the thing about it is 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.440 now to me the commanders of the team that could 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.240 beat Philadelphia. They did it. They went to Philadelphia and 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:43.840 won a game. So I'm thinking, beat Minnesota, Go go 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.080 be the lower seed, go win the game at Philadelphia. 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.320 I think that's what I was thinking. If Wins isn't 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.440 the quarterback. But it looks like they're going back to Wins. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.479 I don't think they are. You know, they don't think. 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.960 I don't think they're going back to Wind in this 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.359 last game, I know, but it made they made it 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.159 seem like or at least what I mean, very It 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.080 was like very like. I don't don't read this like 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.520 he was. If they go back to him, I have 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.520 no they won't go back to the way. They won't 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.640 go back to Wins. They absolutely will not. The other 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.280 guys are better. He's a better quarterback. For whatever reason. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.200 He they they've been responded. He's a responsive team. But 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.240 but you're right the way the Packers. The thing about Packers, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.840 I don't trust them on defense. And even though they 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.680