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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number ninety six. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the latest edition of The Break. We are live
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Speaker 1: by mill of Ltte, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We're coming off a big win. Cowboys win forty to
Speaker 1: thirty four. They stay in contention for the NFC East title.
Speaker 1: Lots of things to talk about there because Philadelphia looks
Speaker 1: like they may have lost their their right tackle there.
Speaker 1: They're one of their cornerbacks is now out. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the quarterback's gonna play. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: things going on with Philadelphia, so Cowboys still in it.
Speaker 1: We'll see how this thing goes over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: And I just read this morning that Tennessee actually their
Speaker 1: game all, their final game of the season, really is
Speaker 1: what counts for them. This game might not matter at
Speaker 1: all for them. Again, lots of things think about. We'll
Speaker 1: get into some of that other stuff later, but today
Speaker 1: we're going to focus on the game and a rehash
Speaker 1: what happened on Saturday afternoon. Let's start the stories of
Speaker 1: the game. Nick, what did you think was the big
Speaker 1: overall storyline coming out of this game? Dak? I thought
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott showed the mental toughness that he always preaches,
Speaker 1: and that that that you want your quarterback to have.
Speaker 1: He threw another interception and it's tend to nothing before
Speaker 1: anyone's even settled down, and he comes back, gets booed,
Speaker 1: comes back and has a great finish to that game,
Speaker 1: and he just basically willed the offense to scoring that
Speaker 1: many points. And so you know, I mean, he's got
Speaker 1: his flaws, but the stuff you love about Dak was
Speaker 1: on display there after that pick. Yeah. I mean, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of different guys that stood out in
Speaker 1: that game in general, but I think that Dak absolutely
Speaker 1: takes to win overall because of that. I mean, as
Speaker 1: soon as that interception happened, and that one was absolutely
Speaker 1: all on him. There's no discussion in that. It's not like,
Speaker 1: oh it was somebody, No, this was all Dak. But
Speaker 1: the fact that he has that mental toughness and to
Speaker 1: keep like stay focused and come back and play the
Speaker 1: way that he did, I think he shows the reason
Speaker 1: why he's here and why so many other people back
Speaker 1: him up. And he was able to finish that game.
Speaker 1: In that game, I mean, the defense got a lot
Speaker 1: of takeaways later on, but I think the way that
Speaker 1: the offense was able to carry the game was really good.
Speaker 1: And this is a part of the year right now
Speaker 1: where it seems that the offense is going to have
Speaker 1: to keep stepping up their game to kind of be
Speaker 1: able to win games with kind of some of the
Speaker 1: defensive struggles that they've had so far. It's a resilient
Speaker 1: football team. It's very resilient, and they got down a
Speaker 1: couple of different times look kind of bad. Even the
Speaker 1: final drive of the game was just you know, you're
Speaker 1: holding on to everything you got, and you know they
Speaker 1: were able to take advantage as you mentioned, Derek, of
Speaker 1: the right tackle Lane Johnson being out, they put our
Speaker 1: guy Nick Driscoll in there and Driscoll, like Fowler, says
Speaker 1: not today, not on fourth down. You're not going to
Speaker 1: block me today. And so now he's back in Gardner
Speaker 1: Mitchiw's lap and he's you know, basically making him throw
Speaker 1: the ball away. But the way this team is able
Speaker 1: to create turnovers, the way they're able to keep playing,
Speaker 1: they keep shuffling guys in and out of the lineup.
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out I from McKinsey, Alexander's any good.
Speaker 1: You know it's not his fault. Oh wait, the ball
Speaker 1: goes inside to catch. Okay, get right on the field.
Speaker 1: We're gonna show of Bland back into the inside. I mean,
Speaker 1: they are doing everything in their power. They're taking a
Speaker 1: guy they've had for what ten days and throwing him
Speaker 1: out their receiver on third and thirty and saying, listen, bro,
Speaker 1: you go down there as fast as you can. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to probably beat an all pro corner to
Speaker 1: get there. And by the way, the safety is going
Speaker 1: to turn the wrong way, so just keep running as
Speaker 1: fast as you can until he turns back around, and
Speaker 1: then the balls down the field. You guys were talking
Speaker 1: about Dak, You're absolutely right about that. It's just a
Speaker 1: very resilient football team to win that game the other day.
Speaker 1: It's interesting they've been talking about resilience as kind of
Speaker 1: the theme throughout the season. He goes back to training
Speaker 1: camp when the coach have been talking to him about
Speaker 1: this term and saying this over and over, and literally
Speaker 1: Week one they lose their quarterback. And so when you
Speaker 1: look at this team and what they've been able to
Speaker 1: do this year, I think resilient is about the best
Speaker 1: way you can put it for them. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: a couple of moments, because I do think Brian, you
Speaker 1: mentioned that last drive, but I think there were the
Speaker 1: two final drives that the Cowboys had where my opinion, well,
Speaker 1: they made some really questionable decisions and some of those
Speaker 1: decisions could have cost them. But I wanted to get
Speaker 1: your opinions. Let's start first. It was following the interception
Speaker 1: by darn Bland, roughly three or six left in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Games tied thirty four, thirty four, first and
Speaker 1: ten to Philadelphia thirty four. It's an incomplete pass. They
Speaker 1: decided to throw the ball second and ten. They get
Speaker 1: a five yard pass to Brown, so it gets third
Speaker 1: and five at the Philadelphia twenty nine with two twenty
Speaker 1: eight left in the game, again they opt to pass
Speaker 1: in completion. They end up having to kick a forty
Speaker 1: eight yard field though they do take the lead thirty
Speaker 1: seven thirty four, but they leave two twenty four on
Speaker 1: the clock. Nick, and you and I were talking about
Speaker 1: it in the press box. What were your thoughts in
Speaker 1: that moment, because going back to last week, the coach
Speaker 1: said we were trying to be aggressive, we wanted to
Speaker 1: go ahead and win the game. Seems like that was
Speaker 1: the same mantra this week. What do you think. I
Speaker 1: don't agree with it. I think that you gotta either
Speaker 1: burn some timeouts for the Eagles or get it to
Speaker 1: the two minute warning or both. And I think that
Speaker 1: the next drive show you just that they have abilities
Speaker 1: to run the football without running it right up the middle.
Speaker 1: Either it's Dak, it could be Tony Pollard on the outside,
Speaker 1: could be different things. But do something that you can
Speaker 1: still run. Be somewhat aggressive, but at the same time
Speaker 1: you're forcing the Eagles to make a decision. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: I mean, four minute football is not great for this
Speaker 1: team at times, especially the last two weeks. I think
Speaker 1: you got away with one this week. To me again,
Speaker 1: it's about the condition of your team. It's about the
Speaker 1: condition of your defense. It's like I even Gardner Minshew,
Speaker 1: they're they're really not without Jalen Hurts. You could kind
Speaker 1: of see they're a different running team. They's it was
Speaker 1: three yards to carry without Jalen Hurts. I mean, Dallas
Speaker 1: is so now it turns into all this playing past defense.
Speaker 1: You're trying to figure out the secondary. They've got guys
Speaker 1: at Smith making leaping catches over the head catches Dallas Goddard.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't want to put your defense
Speaker 1: back through that. And so I mean that that drive
Speaker 1: and the last two h seven of the game, you
Speaker 1: know where Dak runs out of bounce and you're like, god, why,
Speaker 1: and you know they still got timeouts and there's still
Speaker 1: time left. And I got to the point where we
Speaker 1: were talking about myself and Zach Woolchuk, do you go
Speaker 1: for it on fourth down to just try and kill
Speaker 1: it here? You just try and get to call your
Speaker 1: maybe your best two point play and try and score
Speaker 1: touchdown here and in the game. But kicking the field
Speaker 1: goal was, you know, it was the right thing considering
Speaker 1: how fast Philadelphia moved down the field, you know, so
Speaker 1: that those are the things that give you that pause
Speaker 1: of man, you've got game in hand, you've got the turnovers,
Speaker 1: and now you're putting your team back in harm's way.
Speaker 1: That was tough. I think they got really fortunate the
Speaker 1: way that game ended there. What's confusing to me is,
Speaker 1: I mean, we know the team. They know the team.
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't know them as well as they do,
Speaker 1: but we we got a pretty good hand of the team.
Speaker 1: And to me, when we're watching the game, any game
Speaker 1: and it comes home too like a questionable decision, it
Speaker 1: seems clear to us as we're watching it, all they
Speaker 1: should have done this or they shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1: I like, why do they not have this? Like why
Speaker 1: do they not see the game as we see them
Speaker 1: see it as as well? You know? Yeah, Well, to me,
Speaker 1: I think it's Coach talked about it last week and
Speaker 1: it is completely different lenses. And by the way, one's
Speaker 1: not necessarily right over the other. It's just how you
Speaker 1: prefer it. He I think, is opting to say we're
Speaker 1: going to be aggressive and and we're gonna say that
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't work out our way, we're going
Speaker 1: for the win. And by the way, sometimes the analytics
Speaker 1: tells you be aggressive. I don't know that I agree
Speaker 1: with that in this situation. I didn't agree with it
Speaker 1: last week either, but but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it worked out for him this week. Right, Well, he
Speaker 1: told you all you needed to know. He went for
Speaker 1: it on fourth and seven, you know, And you're fortunate
Speaker 1: that t Y Hilton draws a passing or a defensive
Speaker 1: holding penalty there, because that's one of those things you're
Speaker 1: kind of like in a game like this, just punt it,
Speaker 1: punt it and see if see if you can hold him,
Speaker 1: see if you can get a stop. But him staying
Speaker 1: aggressive and all that, I mean, it's it. I really
Speaker 1: thought he was going to go for him fourth down.
Speaker 1: I really thought him, like, man, he's calls it, No Moss.
Speaker 1: I thought he was in that no Moss moment where
Speaker 1: it's like, call play, let's see if we can if
Speaker 1: we pin him, we pin him, and we'll see if
Speaker 1: we can play. But that, man, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: rough that's a rough, rough way to operate right there.
Speaker 1: For sure. Ironically, Nick, you were kind of having that
Speaker 1: same kind of back and forth. Should they go for it?
Speaker 1: Here because you were thinking the same thing. What were
Speaker 1: we thought? Well, I was trying to, you know, do math,
Speaker 1: which is never a good thing. But I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you you kick a field goal, and you
Speaker 1: put him to the twenty five and they've got to
Speaker 1: score seventy They got seventy five yards to beat you.
Speaker 1: If you go for it, you could put them away,
Speaker 1: and if not, you put them at the one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so now one or two. So now you've got to
Speaker 1: go sixty five yards for them to begin a field goal,
Speaker 1: you know, And and they're pinned back, and their play
Speaker 1: calling is not going to be the same play calling.
Speaker 1: It just can't. I mean, especially when you right tackle
Speaker 1: the white. That's safety if you if you hold in
Speaker 1: the end zone. So it's gonna be quick, quick, quick,
Speaker 1: and I think that it'll take them a little longer
Speaker 1: to get there. So yeah, I was I was thinking,
Speaker 1: maybe just just try to put it, put it away,
Speaker 1: if you if you would have penned, if you think
Speaker 1: about penning them if they have no timeouts. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that that that's when I was
Speaker 1: going through it in my mind and I try and
Speaker 1: play these games like, Okay, how would like, to me,
Speaker 1: the best that ever was was the Bill Parcels. Parcels
Speaker 1: had a guy named Ray Hanley that was responsible, you know,
Speaker 1: the Giants days, the Super Bowl days where he Ray
Speaker 1: click over, Ray, how many No, I need? How many
Speaker 1: first down I need? You need one coach and need
Speaker 1: won first down and you could carry it, you know.
Speaker 1: And so you're talking through all this stuff. But when
Speaker 1: they have timeouts left, I'm thinking, like, man, you probably
Speaker 1: have to kick the field goal here because you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't just you know, you can't. Just if you
Speaker 1: made them burn them all, then you pin them. Now
Speaker 1: you're it's a little bit different. They've got they can't
Speaker 1: throw the ball in the middle of the field. The
Speaker 1: stuff's going up the sidelines and things like that. So
Speaker 1: that's that's part of not getting all those timeouts off
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, and you look at that that you've
Speaker 1: that that following drive there where it was after the
Speaker 1: fumble recovery. So they've gotten the field goal, they've taken
Speaker 1: the lead, they get a fumble, Yeah, they get a fumble.
Speaker 1: Two h seven's left, they got a three point lead.
Speaker 1: And then on first and nineteen, great run by Dak Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jack runs out of bound. Yeah, gives them the time out,
Speaker 1: basically basically stopping the clock there. And then you get
Speaker 1: to a situation where's first and goal in Dallas, opts
Speaker 1: to throw instead of run, they get a negative nine
Speaker 1: yards on a sack, and and it just kind of
Speaker 1: to me. I'm looking at that and I'm thinking, that's
Speaker 1: first and goal at the five. Why are you not
Speaker 1: running the ball? Yeah? I mean, do you guys think
Speaker 1: that in some of these instances, maybe they're just not
Speaker 1: im okay with throwing it because it's one second to go.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it's inca because
Speaker 1: it's close. But but don't take a nine yard sack.
Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like Dak was getting was thinking
Speaker 1: about last week and being like, oh I should have
Speaker 1: taken a sack or whatever. No, just throw it. Don't
Speaker 1: give nine yards because they probably score a touchdown if
Speaker 1: the second down or third down, maybe fourth down. At
Speaker 1: that point, it was hard to get back through there.
Speaker 1: So I think he just had a mental lapse there
Speaker 1: those two plays. Two plays. Yeah, that's also my thought.
Speaker 1: Though I agree with you it didn't matter to throw
Speaker 1: or passing that instance, But the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: is your running game with Zeke Elliott, you can pick
Speaker 1: up those short yards if even if even if on
Speaker 1: that run he picks up two, and now you're second
Speaker 1: and goal at the three. I think at that point,
Speaker 1: I'm just continuing to pound the ball. I already have
Speaker 1: a three point lead. My goal at that point is
Speaker 1: to take all the timeouts and to leave the clock
Speaker 1: as much as I can. And if I got to
Speaker 1: kick a field goal, great, but I'm gonna leave them
Speaker 1: in those worst a position as possible, right, you know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they these officials though with Alex Alex kemp and I
Speaker 1: don't want to make it, but the whole game, you know,
Speaker 1: they let him play. Oh yeah, they really let him play.
Speaker 1: Because on the third and seven call with minute fifty,
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz gets called, they hold him, they tackle him
Speaker 1: in the end zone, and they don't call it. So
Speaker 1: you're thinking, like, you know, they're probably looking at They're
Speaker 1: gonna watch the tape and see that they're gonna go, well, okay,
Speaker 1: that's part for the course. But Parsons got held. You know,
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith was holding in the game. It was they
Speaker 1: were letting him play. That was letting him play. And
Speaker 1: so if you're thinking you're gonna get a call him
Speaker 1: third and seven in the end zone that could maybe
Speaker 1: give me the first down to kill that game. No,
Speaker 1: these officials were going to let the players decide it.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, and oh, real quick before we go
Speaker 1: to break though, I did want to ask this a
Speaker 1: bigger picture question about game management. Are you concerned these
Speaker 1: last two games there have been some bad decisions or
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that, there have been some different decisions
Speaker 1: and what we would have made that being said, how
Speaker 1: concerned are you about it? Oh? I'm concerned, just because
Speaker 1: but I'm a media guy. I was once involved with
Speaker 1: all if never was a coach. I mean I was
Speaker 1: a coach in college, but not in the NFL level.
Speaker 1: But I've been around enough games to where I know
Speaker 1: how you're supposed to like keep clock moving. The clock
Speaker 1: can be your ally in this way, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you can make them burn timeouts and put them
Speaker 1: in a different situation, then you can maybe dictate the
Speaker 1: game in your direction. I'm absolutely concerned because I've seen
Speaker 1: it back to back weeks. One week they got away
Speaker 1: with it, the other week they didn't get away with it.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that you know, these
Speaker 1: games they play, they play the games like this, these games,
Speaker 1: these playoff games are going to be We saw basically
Speaker 1: Tampa last night and their situation and how they needed
Speaker 1: the clock and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a little bit concerned. I understand their mentality, but it
Speaker 1: does scare me because they haven't shown consistency in it,
Speaker 1: and when it comes it's just you're cutting it close. Now,
Speaker 1: we're about to end the season and that's it. When
Speaker 1: you get to the playoffs, that it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to that. And it scares me that it comes out
Speaker 1: to a moment like that, the last few minutes of
Speaker 1: a game, and they tend to play games are pretty close,
Speaker 1: so you know, those are crucial moments there and some
Speaker 1: of those decisions that seemed clear to us while we're
Speaker 1: watching it. But I get their aggressiveness. I just it
Speaker 1: does scare me, and I hope I don't know, because
Speaker 1: then if they're too conservative too, then you criticize that
Speaker 1: as well. So it's just like it's not a win
Speaker 1: win situation here, so it's just either way you're gonna
Speaker 1: get criticized. So I'd rather them be aggressive. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's just well, one week they're aggressive and
Speaker 1: then next week they're not. That's kind of it's you know,
Speaker 1: I mean they went the third and ten. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I say, I'm surprised he didn't go for it
Speaker 1: on fourth down. I think the only reason he didn't
Speaker 1: go for a fourth down because they had that time
Speaker 1: out left. But you could have gotten rid of that
Speaker 1: by the way you sequenced your place. You could have
Speaker 1: made them burn their time. There's a way to be aggressive,
Speaker 1: but also will be a little smarter about it. Nick. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not really concerned. I think they're you know, they've
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we look at clock
Speaker 1: management when it's when it's bad, and I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of times that just when it goes, you know,
Speaker 1: like a Houston game, you go down, you go down,
Speaker 1: you score twenty five seconds to go whatever. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times it's pretty good. I'm
Speaker 1: not too worried about it. But yeah, like the Amber said,
Speaker 1: it is a balance of being like I want to
Speaker 1: be aggressive, when do I pull back when? And it's
Speaker 1: not the easiest thing in the world to have a
Speaker 1: mentality that that does kind of go back and forth. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, these games are gonna be close. We know it.
Speaker 1: For the playoff game, it's going to come down to
Speaker 1: the end. It's going if it's in Tampa Bay's definitely
Speaker 1: going to come down to me, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And so that's just you better not leave. And I
Speaker 1: think you have to be super aggressive there because if
Speaker 1: you don't, if you just give them chances, then you're
Speaker 1: not gonna win. Yeah, you're playing that kind of team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah. To your point though, is
Speaker 1: if you're Mike McCarthy and you lose that game to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, say in the last and you're like, your
Speaker 1: argument is, or if the media asked, well, why did
Speaker 1: you do this? We're playing against Tom Brady, history will
Speaker 1: tell you that man is going to do it. You know,
Speaker 1: fifty percent of his career has been played in Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: To think about that, Okay, let's not act like that.
Speaker 1: You know that we're playing like you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: playing somebody different, you know. But anyway, yeah, you can
Speaker 1: get away. You have to coach games differently against Brady,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes. You have to coach game you
Speaker 1: have to play outside the box because your argument is like, hey,
Speaker 1: look who we're playing against. You think do you think
Speaker 1: I want to give them any any time? No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: So you're rooting for the Packers, Yes, I am to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love I would love for there to be
Speaker 1: teams below us in the seating who are good teams
Speaker 1: or teams that can knock bigger teams off. I mean,
Speaker 1: like could go to Minnesota, love San Francisco and be somebody. Well.
Speaker 1: The thing about it is, though, too to me, I
Speaker 1: think the Commanders are that team. The Commanders, what's happening.
Speaker 1: But with their quarterback situation, Now, if they got they
Speaker 1: got they got worked, they got worked in that Giants
Speaker 1: game on a call and San Francisco nobody wants to play.
Speaker 1: You know that situation, you will see you get the
Speaker 1: win against the Giants. Put yourself in with the position
Speaker 1: the Giants are in right now. You know they lost
Speaker 1: last week. So you know, if you're the if you're
Speaker 1: the Commanders, you're got the eight wins, you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: go lose to San Francisco. You're probably gonna lose. They
Speaker 1: just did. But but that's the thing about it is
Speaker 1: now to me the commanders of the team that could
Speaker 1: beat Philadelphia. They did it. They went to Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: won a game. So I'm thinking, beat Minnesota, Go go
Speaker 1: be the lower seed, go win the game at Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I was thinking. If Wins isn't
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But it looks like they're going back to Wins.
Speaker 1: I don't think they are. You know, they don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going back to Wind in this
Speaker 1: last game, I know, but it made they made it
Speaker 1: seem like or at least what I mean, very It
Speaker 1: was like very like. I don't don't read this like
Speaker 1: he was. If they go back to him, I have
Speaker 1: no they won't go back to the way. They won't
Speaker 1: go back to Wins. They absolutely will not. The other
Speaker 1: guys are better. He's a better quarterback. For whatever reason.
Speaker 1: He they they've been responded. He's a responsive team. But
Speaker 1: but you're right the way the Packers. The thing about Packers,
Speaker 1: I don't trust them on defense. And even though they
Speaker 1: played well against Miami, Yester Miami was this, It's two,
Speaker 1: Miami's two. It was just what was he doing yesterday?
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was about there that least two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take that final break, I mean the second
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we're gonna talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the offense, dive into the running game,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking a little about t Y Hilton. He
Speaker 1: provided something for this team that maybe they haven't had
Speaker 1: to this point. We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: dot com. Let's talk about the offense, the running game,
Speaker 1: in particular Yesterday, I mean, I'm sorry Saturday, Zeke Elliott
Speaker 1: ran sixteen times for fifty five yards or three point
Speaker 1: four average and a touchdown. Tony Pollard had nine carries
Speaker 1: for nineteen yards two point one average. After the game,
Speaker 1: when we were talking to Zeke, he made mention the
Speaker 1: fact that the running game just wasn't there on Saturday
Speaker 1: that had forty one. He did, and I didn't bring
Speaker 1: that up specifically because that's a whole different conversation for me.
Speaker 1: A good thing about the running game. Okay, I'm how
Speaker 1: do you guys feel about what happened with the running
Speaker 1: backs and what was the issue? Was it a situation
Speaker 1: where literally it was just Philadelphia was just stopping them.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't get these these tackles and linebackers and ends.
Speaker 1: If you don't hold blocks with these guys, they will
Speaker 1: make every single tackle. There will be times when they
Speaker 1: were getting pushed and guys were fallen off and then
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a chance to cut the ball.
Speaker 1: And then this was not one of the better games
Speaker 1: for mcconnor McGovern. It just wasn't. I mean it, But
Speaker 1: he wasn't alone, Tyrn Smith, Martin. They all had those
Speaker 1: one or two plays where it's blocking, blocking, blocking, and
Speaker 1: then you just these guys are so powerful on the
Speaker 1: other side that they get off their block and then
Speaker 1: they make a tackle for a game of two or
Speaker 1: a gain of three. So a lot of lack of
Speaker 1: sustain in this game, and they couldn't get guys up
Speaker 1: sometimes on the linebackers, which really was a problem. That's
Speaker 1: why that they're they're linebacker. Edwards had so many tackles
Speaker 1: in this game, and he had fourteen of them where
Speaker 1: he just they could not get a guy to him
Speaker 1: quick enough. This is why they're thirteen and two. I mean,
Speaker 1: like they're really good because they always have an athletic, healthy,
Speaker 1: fresh defensive linemen out there. I mean there's not just
Speaker 1: four guys that play there for them at seven eight guys,
Speaker 1: it's a really good rotation. It doesn't ever seem to
Speaker 1: drop off. I mean you throw in, you know, some
Speaker 1: really talented Pro Bowl type guys that are backing up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that they've they've stacked their D line. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, they have a problem with the cow was
Speaker 1: struggling in the running game per se, because it showed
Speaker 1: me that they can get it done with the passing game.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I feel that when they struggle in the
Speaker 1: running game, they tend to play bad, like when they
Speaker 1: don't have that kind of balance, they struggle on offense.
Speaker 1: So the fact that they came out with what was
Speaker 1: a forty points total, that makes me very happy to
Speaker 1: see that they can keep it going and make it
Speaker 1: work with just relying mainly on the passing game and
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I'm glad they kept trying. I was. I
Speaker 1: wasn't against it, and like you say, if the big
Speaker 1: difference in this game too was you know, when you
Speaker 1: watch the Eagles play, Jalen Hurts gets fifty sixty eighty
Speaker 1: one hundred yards running and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it supplements what they're doing in the running game. Well,
Speaker 1: running game looks terrible with your running backs, but then
Speaker 1: your quarterback is escaping, he's scrambling, he's getting eleven yards,
Speaker 1: he's getting ten. You know, he's getting yardage. You know,
Speaker 1: on the on the final drive, he's getting yardage on
Speaker 1: that play. You know, I'm fine with that. You know
Speaker 1: it just keep after it, just don't complete. I think
Speaker 1: there was an administration before that might have just abandoned
Speaker 1: this thing and said, okay, we got to throw it
Speaker 1: every down now, and then you might have been fine.
Speaker 1: But you also might have been in a situation where
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks getting hit like he did and the balls
Speaker 1: flying up in the air and luckily Beotis just rips
Speaker 1: it out of the guy's hands on the ground. So
Speaker 1: you don't have a turnover at midfield. Yeah, play at
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah you don't get that you did not win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean literally Tyrn Smith, I mean
Speaker 1: they both tackles get beat and the ball's flying in
Speaker 1: the air and you're like, going, this is not good
Speaker 1: and Tyler Beyodist on the ground just rips it out
Speaker 1: of the guy's hands. But you keep putting Dak back
Speaker 1: there passing against this this a defensive line. I would
Speaker 1: rather just keep trying to run two, three four yards
Speaker 1: a shot. That fourth and one play was really creative too.
Speaker 1: But but what they did with the you know, putting
Speaker 1: the putting the tight end right there like they were
Speaker 1: going to run it off tackle, run it inside, because
Speaker 1: you get collapsed and then all of a sudden, now
Speaker 1: you got four guys blocking two and now the ball's
Speaker 1: out the sideline. So it's creative ways of running the
Speaker 1: football when you have to and it's not going. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I really liked that play because a lot of times
Speaker 1: they bring these tight ends. They're like all right, jumbo,
Speaker 1: you know, r beef against yours and it's not it's
Speaker 1: not good enough. But those tight ends. But Queen Hendershot Ferguson.
Speaker 1: They're leaping over into the kettles. I mean they they
Speaker 1: they're athletic, they can move like that, and that is
Speaker 1: a good play for them because they got them on
Speaker 1: the move. Yeah, touchdown would seek? How they block would
Speaker 1: even beautiful? That was so clean. They moved over the Eagles.
Speaker 1: They opened that hole perfectly for seek. So it knows
Speaker 1: where only play a job there, Jason Peter, Yes, is
Speaker 1: only play of the game comes in and they kind
Speaker 1: of gotten for a legal motion. Oh he was. He
Speaker 1: was kind of kind of laned a little bit. He
Speaker 1: was kind of got down in a four point stance
Speaker 1: and he lost his balance and he went forward as
Speaker 1: the ball was basically being snap. Billy Bob did that
Speaker 1: in varsity. He did. Yeah, that could be a problem.
Speaker 1: He had a concussion, so that a little different, a
Speaker 1: little different. Yeah, all right, let's let's talk about t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton fifty two yr reception on third and thirty.
Speaker 1: Everything about that is ridiculous. Defensive holding on fourth and
Speaker 1: seven two Yeah, yeah, I will say this, and I
Speaker 1: looked at the game. I went back and watched that
Speaker 1: play after the game because there was a lot of
Speaker 1: talk from the Eagles fans about that play, and Darius
Speaker 1: Slaven said something about it, basically saying, if you don't
Speaker 1: know football, don't don't comment. He blamed Jasie. What he
Speaker 1: was saying was that basic Scott he was in he
Speaker 1: was in zone coverage, yeah, and it looked like he
Speaker 1: did have his zone coverage there and didn't necess It
Speaker 1: wasn't a Cover four. It looked like it was kind
Speaker 1: of covered two and he just kind of was gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, be there a little closer in and then
Speaker 1: the safety was supposed to get over. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: it was just a great play. That mean, just a
Speaker 1: great call because in cover two, that is a part
Speaker 1: in the zone where you can actually if you can
Speaker 1: hit them before that safety can get over there, you
Speaker 1: can get a big play on the outside. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Darius Slay was necessarily the culprit. Either way,
Speaker 1: great play for the Dallas Cowboys. Big play and to me,
Speaker 1: and the question for you guys is is that what
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton can do for you on a consistent
Speaker 1: basis that adds something this offense doesn't really have. But
Speaker 1: if I told you guys, on that play, your wide
Speaker 1: receivers were gallop Turpin, Hilton Schultz and then Zeke No no, no,
Speaker 1: Lamb on the field at that play. Okay, No, that
Speaker 1: was that was okay. So you're trying to get it.
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're by putting Hilton and Turpin on
Speaker 1: the field. You're trying to get sometimes get there. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's the checkdown, Charlie. It's a seven yards and you punt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that particular play, and it was a really good pick
Speaker 1: up to by Zeke, you know, being in there and
Speaker 1: helping pick up. But yeah, the inside, the safety to
Speaker 1: the inside was Scott number thirty three, and he initially
Speaker 1: looks like he's good, like he's gonna help, and then
Speaker 1: he flips the other way and he was completely lost.
Speaker 1: And that's where that's where he tries to adjust. By
Speaker 1: him looking the other way, it got Hilt and far
Speaker 1: enough down the field to where he couldn't come over
Speaker 1: and make the play. So sometimes Slay was blaming Scott.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the name. He's blaming the guy. He
Speaker 1: was blaming the guy. And hey, if you know football, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was the original Shaggy. It wasn't me, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's sometimes you have to catch breaks,
Speaker 1: you know, third and thirty. I mean two percent chance.
Speaker 1: It was a better percent chance of throwing an interception there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thinner is completing that ball, and it's a better it's
Speaker 1: a really bad percentage to say, hey, gold catch this
Speaker 1: ball fifty two yards down the field and don't use
Speaker 1: your hands. Yeah, that's it, right off your wrists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. And I get this every game, every time
Speaker 1: Dak throws a deep ball. I get this because I
Speaker 1: have made the statement that I don't believe that Dak
Speaker 1: is a great deep ball thrower. That might have been
Speaker 1: his best deep throw he's ever had. I mean, he
Speaker 1: chunked that thing something bad. He really did. He threw it,
Speaker 1: and I mean he was like, I'm throwing this as
Speaker 1: far as I can and as hard as I can.
Speaker 1: And that's what That's what makes that catch even more impressive,
Speaker 1: because he stood in there and chunk. To your point,
Speaker 1: he kept him in bounce too. We've seen Dak makelong
Speaker 1: sidelines throws where the guys it's too why it's too near,
Speaker 1: you know. So, And let's also be clear about this.
Speaker 1: I think for a when you have a guy like
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton, it makes the deep ball throw an
Speaker 1: easier throw for the quarterback because it's like Randy Moss.
Speaker 1: It's those kind of receivers where basically the receiver's like,
Speaker 1: just chunk it, I'll go get it. And t w
Speaker 1: I talked about it after the game. He was like,
Speaker 1: he just threw it out there to me, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I gotta go get it. And so when you
Speaker 1: got a guy that has that kind of crazy speed,
Speaker 1: he can go get it, and so it makes it
Speaker 1: looked like it's a great throw when really the quarterback
Speaker 1: just has to literally back up, take your drop. Well,
Speaker 1: just sling it and let the receiver run. I guarantee
Speaker 1: you that's the only deep ball that Dak has thrown
Speaker 1: to t Y Hilton since he's been here. You think
Speaker 1: in practice they ever aired one out like that. You know,
Speaker 1: to me, that doesn't seem like one of those that
Speaker 1: you would like. Okay, it just run as fast as
Speaker 1: you can and we're gonna throw it down there. Well,
Speaker 1: the players has said in practice that, yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: definitely showed he still had to speed. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was throwing it yeah, okay, but somehow he
Speaker 1: showed the play. Maybe I just the players are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got something here, yet I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was dak On it to him. Yeah, I just wonder
Speaker 1: about that sometimes. You know, it's crazy that you but
Speaker 1: they set the play up. They put personnel on the
Speaker 1: field that could all run see And so I love
Speaker 1: Turpin in the slot like that because then that's that's
Speaker 1: what you can play in the safety all you want to.
Speaker 1: But that guy knows number nine's coming up, he's got
Speaker 1: to pay attention to him a little bit, so that
Speaker 1: even if it's just a second late getting over, it's
Speaker 1: because you put in the slot. And I love about that,
Speaker 1: and you start thinking about what you can do with
Speaker 1: stuff like that when you got you know, the guy
Speaker 1: on the outside, it's t Y and he's going on
Speaker 1: a nine route and then you you run basically a
Speaker 1: post route with the guy in the slot with Turpin.
Speaker 1: And let's assume for a second you put CD on
Speaker 1: the field and you got him over on the other
Speaker 1: side of the field, what are you gonna do defense like,
Speaker 1: because somebody's gonna get open here and you can make
Speaker 1: some you can get some big hits at some players
Speaker 1: like that. I think that's where t Y Hilton adds
Speaker 1: a new dimension to this offense that we really haven't
Speaker 1: been able to see this point. Yeah, it's like Bakham, who, no,
Speaker 1: just get it. I'm still salty about the whole situation.
Speaker 1: But no, that's exactly what the Cowboys were missing and
Speaker 1: they got it. And it's impressive. Now, he said, the
Speaker 1: bar very very high, and I expect nothing less than
Speaker 1: catches like those. So keep it up. And it's exciting
Speaker 1: to have a guy like him with the speed that
Speaker 1: he has, because that is the one number, like Nick mentioned,
Speaker 1: that is the one thing that all of these guys
Speaker 1: have commented about him, is how fast this guy is
Speaker 1: and the fact that he showed the ability that he
Speaker 1: still has without playing all year basically right, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: being out of recovery and so that just shows. Imagine
Speaker 1: him getting a few more weeks of work in. I
Speaker 1: bet he's a lot better once the playoffs get here,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be making those plays I think I
Speaker 1: always were lacking. I think you have to use him
Speaker 1: stuff in the underneath too. I think he's so capable
Speaker 1: of making those plays. Third and four, third and five,
Speaker 1: you get in those kind of those what we gonna
Speaker 1: call run pass kind of things. And you play action
Speaker 1: it and you hit him out of a bunch formation
Speaker 1: someone's trying to chase him. He's he's really good at
Speaker 1: those kinds of plays as well. And the thing about
Speaker 1: that is at fifty two yard pass that's gonna defensive
Speaker 1: will be watching that and they're thinking I'm playing off
Speaker 1: like I'm not necessarily going up tight. So that's going
Speaker 1: to create those openings for some of those underneath throws.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's got I think he adds a new
Speaker 1: dimension to your offense and gives you just one more
Speaker 1: playmaker that you get the ball in his hand in space,
Speaker 1: he can do something with it. Um. This is always
Speaker 1: funny because it brought us. Was like, hey, you know
Speaker 1: who's gonna make a play on third and four for you?
Speaker 1: And I was just like, well, third and thirty, you
Speaker 1: know who's gonna do it? Third and thirty. I mean,
Speaker 1: I sit next to Todd Archer from the ESPN and
Speaker 1: he charts every play and the guy had announced third
Speaker 1: and thirty and he goes, the Cowboys are seven and
Speaker 1: fifteen on third downs and he goes, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: write seven and sixteen right now because they're not they're
Speaker 1: not getting this and it's usually checked down Charlie, like
Speaker 1: I said for eight Yeah, you know, no or draw topic,
Speaker 1: I mean, not completely off topic. But I kind of
Speaker 1: feel bad for James Washington. I mean why, yeah, poor guy,
Speaker 1: what do you mean why? I mean, I mean, because
Speaker 1: it's it's the crazy party. Well I shouldn't say crazy part.
Speaker 1: We all know that. No, No, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. But I'm saying I feel
Speaker 1: I feel bad because he's been since training camp well
Speaker 1: something but out of sight, out of mind though. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they got to the point where they were been thinking
Speaker 1: about if he was available. Maybe they don't talk about
Speaker 1: going to get t Y Hilton or maybe they don't
Speaker 1: talk about Odell Beckham, but they kind of realized that, man,
Speaker 1: we need something here. And you know, it's it's really
Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you mean, it's unfortunate he breaks his foot and they
Speaker 1: and they were to the point where, well, he's ready,
Speaker 1: he's ready, but they were not interested. I mean they
Speaker 1: were thinking something completely different from him. Well that's the thing,
Speaker 1: is I they've held onto him this long, he's been
Speaker 1: healthy for a while, and then they used him two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. What was it for like one player he's
Speaker 1: only played. I'm just saying, I'm listen, I haven't He's
Speaker 1: not my type of receiver. But the thing is, it's
Speaker 1: just I do feel bad in the way that it's
Speaker 1: the business. Well you wonder now if he's the fifty
Speaker 1: third player. Yeah, if they if they have to go,
Speaker 1: if they have to elevate somebody, or they have to
Speaker 1: go in position now with Hilton, I mean everybody, it's oh,
Speaker 1: hey look at this shiny new toy we have over here,
Speaker 1: and hey, look at this guy. We've only given three
Speaker 1: games too, or two games too. You know, we know
Speaker 1: what he is. Now we need to move back over here.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they needed a player. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying. I'm just saying he's probably the guy that
Speaker 1: they would look at first if they had to bring
Speaker 1: on somebody off the roster or on the roster and
Speaker 1: they needed a spot. That's just my opinion. It makes
Speaker 1: me think that something they saw at some point, whether
Speaker 1: it's camp before he got hurt or since he's been
Speaker 1: healthy and not playing, something they saw made them say like,
Speaker 1: he ain't really the guy that we need, right now
Speaker 1: because they still were out there and they were looking
Speaker 1: for other options. So to me, it just kind of
Speaker 1: says they weren't they weren't impressed enough, and this is
Speaker 1: just the result of what happened. We were all watching
Speaker 1: those OTA and mini camp practice him and Tolbert, they
Speaker 1: just weren't available. They just never were availing. And you see,
Speaker 1: you never got to feel for like, well, could he
Speaker 1: be that guy? Could he be the guy? And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you don't see him all of
Speaker 1: OTAs in mini camps. We get out to Oxnard. The
Speaker 1: first practice, we're all settling in. He breaks his foot
Speaker 1: and now we're all like, well, what do you have
Speaker 1: in this guy? You know? And everybody was asking Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones and them at the at the at the at
Speaker 1: the party meet to party, Hey you have to go
Speaker 1: get a guy, if you get a guy, and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: we're cool, No, we're cool. Well, they eventually have to do.
Speaker 1: They went and got a guy. Yeah, they went and
Speaker 1: they were talking about Odell Beckham and then they went
Speaker 1: and got this guy. All right, we're gonna take our
Speaker 1: final break, we'll come back. Let's flip to the defensive
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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Starless Stock defense Saturday.
Speaker 1: This defense gave up or they allowed and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: They actually had four turnovers that they forced, but they
Speaker 1: had zero sacks. Should have had five turnovers. Bar dropped
Speaker 1: a ball he should have had. Yeah, Oh, no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. They had five, zero sacks, zero quarterback hits
Speaker 1: and allowed three hundred and fifty five passing yards against
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. So give me your thoughts on this defense.
Speaker 1: After watching that game, I'll tell you what. That ball
Speaker 1: they would get into their twist stunts and the ball
Speaker 1: was gone. That's how fast it was going to in
Speaker 1: this game. And teams to figure that out. Don't let
Speaker 1: this team pass rush you and it doesn't matter. You
Speaker 1: can move Parsons around and stuff like that. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there was some pressure Minshew was having to move around.
Speaker 1: He made some incredible throws playing backwards, you know, he
Speaker 1: made some of the throws that final drive. They kind
Speaker 1: of got to him. You started to see when when
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson came out of the game, you started to see, Okay,
Speaker 1: now some problems are happening for this. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's a it's a it's an excellent offensive line.
Speaker 1: The skill players are tremendous, you know, the way with
Speaker 1: brown Smith the tight end. Any ball in their direction
Speaker 1: they're gonna catch. But as you watch, I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: why why is no pass rush? Why no pass rush?
Speaker 1: Their line is good, but the ball is getting out
Speaker 1: so quick. I swear I was watching it there and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I kind of maybe four or five times
Speaker 1: where Cowboys are running a twist stunt and the stunt
Speaker 1: didn't even have a chance to get completed. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like, in the infancy of it, just move,
Speaker 1: move ball out and you're like, ohing, Okay, I'm getting
Speaker 1: what's going on here, especially and you're you're compromised on
Speaker 1: the back end. I think the combination of right, you
Speaker 1: know and Bland, I think that's the one they need
Speaker 1: to stick with because they covered better when those two
Speaker 1: were playing in the in the game. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: tough when the ball's coming out that quick. It really
Speaker 1: really is. And there were times now that you mentioned that,
Speaker 1: maybe that was it what I was watching, because there
Speaker 1: were times where I was looking at it and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: they look slow the defense, the defensive black when they're
Speaker 1: rushing or like going Even Mica Parsons, there were a
Speaker 1: time where he was he just looked slow coming up,
Speaker 1: you know, with the snap. But uh, maybe that's the
Speaker 1: reason why, because of the quarterback getting rid of the ball.
Speaker 1: So it is it's it's it's not the it's not
Speaker 1: it's it's it's my best reasoning right now. It's my
Speaker 1: best reasoning. If you get up and play press coverage
Speaker 1: and make guys have to win. They're not. Teams are not.
Speaker 1: The receivers are in routes and the ball is out.
Speaker 1: I mean it is like whether it's out a slant,
Speaker 1: you know, curls. I mean, they're getting the ball out
Speaker 1: so far and that Gardner Minshew and the times when
Speaker 1: he was, like I said, he was going backwards, he's
Speaker 1: throwing its side arm and he's you know, he's on
Speaker 1: back foot he's throwing it over the middle and Smith
Speaker 1: makes a great catch. Or I'll tell you something about Mica.
Speaker 1: He wore Dallas Goddard out in the Running game, though
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard in ball block him one time. In the
Speaker 1: Running game. There are several times where he was just
Speaker 1: you know, slant slant slant coming in working around him.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean that's the pass rush. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something you have to get. But if you can't
Speaker 1: hold up, it's hand in hand. If your guys in
Speaker 1: the back aren't holding up, then it's a problem because
Speaker 1: your rush can't get home to effect the pass. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it does come down to
Speaker 1: these corners as well. When you're facing these receivers that
Speaker 1: are playmakers, I mean DeVante Smith, A J. Brown, they're playmakers,
Speaker 1: will get the ball to them quickly, and that's where
Speaker 1: the advantage is. Not everybody obviously has the those two guys,
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville had some enough to throw it quickly. And
Speaker 1: I think it just comes down to the cornerbacks playing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's got to be the scheme, but the
Speaker 1: cornerbacks playing close to the line script and making the tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if you could do that and then you you know,
Speaker 1: even that is going to be a minimal two three
Speaker 1: yard game, it's still going to put them in third
Speaker 1: and long some of the time. So I think it
Speaker 1: still comes down to the cornerbacks, to the cornerbacks making
Speaker 1: tackles on the outside. Well, the Cowboys aren't getting any
Speaker 1: penalties either too. They're not getting any like holding calls,
Speaker 1: and they got some calls earlier. You got some holdings
Speaker 1: and you set teams back. They're just not getting those
Speaker 1: calls that they were earlier in the year. To say,
Speaker 1: somebody Nishan Wright, he to me is very impressive with
Speaker 1: the fact that he's a smart player. Like you can
Speaker 1: tell he did some things the last two games. You
Speaker 1: just you can just see a guy that's a young
Speaker 1: player that knows the rules, understands he knows if I
Speaker 1: hit him, if I just make contact before he goes
Speaker 1: out of bounds, that clucks. That clock's gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: He may he's making the move. Last week against Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: the guy makes a catch on the ground, he lets
Speaker 1: him get up and then tackle him more seconds more time.
Speaker 1: YEA not saying about anybody else. I'm just saying he
Speaker 1: is a smart, young football player Scott size. He's he
Speaker 1: might be they're tall to play the position, but he
Speaker 1: handles it pretty well. I will say this, and I
Speaker 1: mentioned this to you in the game as well. It
Speaker 1: was a similar thing from the standpoint of him providing
Speaker 1: run support. He's a really good tackler out there on
Speaker 1: the outside. They're better with with Wilson and Bland and
Speaker 1: those guys playing in the second you got curse. Heck,
Speaker 1: they put four they put four safeties out there in
Speaker 1: the field one time. You know, I'm trying to just
Speaker 1: trying to mix some things up and and and try
Speaker 1: and help. But you've got you've got corners that that
Speaker 1: can make up if if seven is not always interested
Speaker 1: in tackling, the other dudes in that secondary are and
Speaker 1: I think that helps you. Would you would you in
Speaker 1: the off season? Would you entertain the thought about Israel
Speaker 1: mcquama as a corner You've been saying that since camp.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't be against it because I think
Speaker 1: they gotta they gotta think about their cornerback position because
Speaker 1: after next year, they may not have Brown, they may
Speaker 1: not have Lewis, So I think they gotta start thinking about,
Speaker 1: like where's his best and you've got enough safeties. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got enough safeties. Maybe it is a thought. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Donovan Wilson is a free agent, so that's
Speaker 1: I'm thinking they're resigning him, right well, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know. Well, I
Speaker 1: think you do bring back Joseph. That's just me. I
Speaker 1: tweeted this out earlier. I think he's your special teams
Speaker 1: guy now, but I think you give him one more run.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean people saying he's a bust and
Speaker 1: all that, I know, but to me, to me, it's
Speaker 1: just that's where he drew the most penalties. Just special teams.
Speaker 1: Just give it a go. Give it. I mean, like
Speaker 1: and at this at this point, I will say this, Brian,
Speaker 1: you give it a go and he busts again in
Speaker 1: the preseason and you could just move on. Or maybe
Speaker 1: he's a better Maybe he becomes your your your Godwin
Speaker 1: or a Goodwin whatever, like a Goodwin as the you know,
Speaker 1: the special team c J Goodwin guy. Maybe he becomes
Speaker 1: that guy. Is this about the fact that, oh, I'll
Speaker 1: put it to you like this, if he was not
Speaker 1: a second round pick, would you be thinking that or
Speaker 1: is this one those things that you're like, hey, that's
Speaker 1: I just gotta give it one more trot because at
Speaker 1: some point somebody thought he could play. I don't think
Speaker 1: if we all trust Dan quinn and Will McClay, those
Speaker 1: are the two guys that they didn't go down to
Speaker 1: San Antonio. Ut San Antonio and look at the Woolen
Speaker 1: kid who's doing it great things up there. He's the same.
Speaker 1: He's a long, tall corner that they would have probably
Speaker 1: absolutely loved. Woolen is a Pro Bowl player at Seattle.
Speaker 1: They went to a workout in Lexington, Kentucky. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: in this way that if you think that this guy
Speaker 1: could play, we'll give him an We'll give him one
Speaker 1: more year and go from there. If it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: we'll move on. There's Nick will remind you of every
Speaker 1: second round pick that never ever played here, you know,
Speaker 1: and he'll just be on the list. If that's exactly
Speaker 1: Tony Dixon. How about that tackle we drafted that Parcels
Speaker 1: drafted from a USC J. Jacob Rogers never played that.
Speaker 1: Every time we think about moving from left tackle to
Speaker 1: right tackle, I think about him because it took him
Speaker 1: an entire year. Ye, like he wasn't going to do
Speaker 1: it in a whole year. It took him, and it
Speaker 1: was just like like he couldn't play. Parcels was told
Speaker 1: he's everything you hated an offensive lineman, and he still
Speaker 1: drafted him. I never played, never played. All right, appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys, Johns. We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna actually
Speaker 1: dive into Tennessee tomorrow. We'll do offense and defense tomorrow
Speaker 1: for Tennessee because it's gonna be our last show of
Speaker 1: the week before we head after for Thursday night game
Speaker 1: till then for Nick Even Brian brought us Amber Garcia.
Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on
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