1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: The volume, what is going on everybody? John middlecop three 2 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: and now podcast here's the plant. Go subscribe wherever you 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: listen to podcast, Appreciate everyone that has I did. I 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: went on Collins podcast, so you can hear a lot 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: of takes on Sean Payton, the Rogers situation, PAC twelve, 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: which is sad, but its disintegrating right in front of 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: our eyes. So I'll touch on today is mainly going 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: to be a mail bag podcast, and I will open 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: up with some thoughts on the injuries. Burrow avoided disaster 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: luckily and Jalen Ramsey I would say long term not 11 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: going to miss the season and we think, but it's 12 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: going to be gone for a while. So injuries are 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: happening all over the league. Touch on that, and then, 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: like I said, the mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. 15 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: I answer a bunch of questions. So even though I 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: want on Collins podcast, want to get a little content 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: up and I just had questions to answer on the mailbag, 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: so I wanted to get you guys that have not 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: made the show on the show. 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You don't even know these guys until 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: they finally get up, and most of them never live 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: up to the hype for every day La Cruise with 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the Reds. There are one hundred guys that you can't 52 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: ever remember because they sucked. In basketball, for the most part, 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: star players don't come out of nowhere yet in the NFL. 54 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this drive in today because Brock 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: Purty made his return first practice, he didn't practice yesterday, 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: and there were two guys who were battling to be 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: the backup rock Purty was the last pick in the draft. 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: He is entrenched as the forty nine Ers starter going 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: into the season, and the two guys competing to be 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: his backup were both number three overall picks, but not 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: only number three overall picks. The forty nine Ers traded 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: multiple ones to get Trey Lance. The New York Jets 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: traded a hole to move up just from six to 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: number three to get Sam Darnold. And now, obviously Sam's 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: been in the league longer than Trey. They're both competing 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: to be a backup to mister irrelevant. If I would 67 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: have told you last season, at this time I was 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: living in the Bay Area that brock Purty would be 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: the starter in the middle of the season, I would 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: have bet you five thousand dollars no chance. I would 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: have bet you that he would have been not even 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: have made the team, that he would have been a 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: practice squad guy. And then his training camp went on, 74 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: he made the team as a third quarterback some injuries. 75 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: A year LATERKL Shanahan loves him. He's a starting quarterback. 76 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it today, like Dak Prescott. If 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: you're a Cowboy fan his rookie season, you were like, oh, yeah, 78 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: we got this guy in the fourth round fro Mississippi 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: State had a pretty good career under Dan Mullen. Excited 80 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: to see what we can do with him, pretty athletic guy. 81 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Then by the time the season rolls around, the dude, 82 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: your starter, Tony Romo's back goes out, Kellen Moore I think, 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: breaks his ankle, and all of a sudden, Dak Prescott's 84 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: your starter. He's gone on to have a fantastic career 85 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: given where he started. But things change in the blink 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: of an eye, and sometimes, like Romo, careers just end 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: in camp. You're like guy that back of shot. And 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: if you watch Romo play golf right now, the back 89 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: is still fucked. He can barely put a team in 90 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: the ground. And then you just have guys who just 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: get injured, and at the time when they do feel 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: like is this going to derail our season? This was 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: If you're the Miami Dolphins right now, you make a 94 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: pretty good trade, right you trade of what third round 95 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: pick to get Jalen Ramsey, You get him on your squad, 96 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: You add Vic Fangier, like our defense is gonna be awesome. 97 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you look on the internet 98 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey has injured his knee. Didn't at Cordon Schefter, No, 99 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: acl not out for the season, but it's gonna miss 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: significant time. And you know the thing is, and Jalen's 101 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: been one of the best, you know, defensive players, definitely 102 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: the best corners over the last five six years. Is 103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: there's a chance there's a guy you've never heard of 104 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: right now on your team who's a fifth round pick, 105 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: who's an undrafted free agent, who's a second year practice 106 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: squad guy who can just fill in and be fine. 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: Because sometimes that happens in the NFL. Happened with brock 108 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: Perty Mister irrelevant all of a sudden becomes the starting quarterback. 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it happens all the time. I'm not 110 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: saying you're just locked to upgrade when you lose a 111 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote name guy. But it's the NFL. Things change 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: like that, and because of the amount of people on 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: every roster, you just never know what you got until 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: guys start playing. I had never heard, I don't really 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: watch a lot of Rutgers football of Isaiah Pachaco till 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: last year round training camp when the guys with the 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: Chief started talking about him, and then nationally, you know, 118 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Veitch's boys or Schragger, it starts. There's just a lot 119 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: of Isaiah Pachaco, love, Lewis Riddick knows all those guys. 120 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Then by the end of the season, dude was running 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: down people's throats. That's what happens. I mean, just a 122 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: couple of years previously, they had drafted one of the 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: best players on one of the best teams in the 124 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: history of college football in the first round. You're like, God, 125 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: Andy with Clyde, they're gonna be able to throw screens. 126 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to use them. A couple of 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: years later, Clyde's kind of irrelevant and Isaiah Pachaco is 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: just a baller. Just like that, That's how it happens, 129 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: and injuries suck. I don't miss them at all. That 130 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: feeling today of clicking on the internet and watching Joe 131 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Burrow hit the ground. Practice ended, It's like you could 132 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: just tell you didn't even need to be there. It 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: went sign rightfully. So because there are certain players on 134 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: every team, and obviously Burrow would be the number one 135 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: guy on that team. If they go down and they 136 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: can't move for whatever reason and you don't quite especially 137 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: a non contact injury, everyone's heart drops into their stomach. 138 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't care at all about the Bengals. I got 139 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh shit, that he just rupture his achilles, 140 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: and then it was pretty clear, you know, he pulled 141 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: his calf the coach said it after and by the 142 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: time you realize he had, I guess added a sleeve 143 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: to his leg. But for a split second, you went 144 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the league, and let's 145 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: face it, one of the most important because he's a quarterback. 146 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: It would derail a team. Season is over before it 147 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: even starts. Now there's a level of like you can 148 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: figure out how to replace Trey Lance to brock Perty, 149 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: there's no replacing Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Herbert Rogers. 150 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain guys that just you're screwed, 151 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: season over, and then there are other guys, most positions 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: where it's like devastating losing Jalen. And I'm not saying 153 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: it's a positive losing the guy. It's not ideal. There's 154 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: no guarantee we ever see the guy the rest of 155 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the season. None. There's just not. But there's a decent 156 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: chance that maybe a guy you drafted, maybe a guy 157 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: you had last year on the practice squad, just becomes 158 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: a legitimate starting player. Right and all of a sudden, 159 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: you got Vic Fangio, one of the best defensive coordinators. 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: You scheme them up and you figure out how to 161 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: play and function and be competitive. And it's just that 162 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: time of the year because every day when you go 163 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: to the practice field, you just pray to God that 164 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: you don't lose a guy, but you do lose guys 165 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: every team does kind of constantly throughout camp, and you 166 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: just got to figure out hopefully you have a replacement 167 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: or a guy that can figure it out. And it's 168 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: just not your quarterback, because if it is your quarterback 169 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: for the most part, the romo Kellen Moore to Dak Prescott, 170 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the Trey Lance to Jimmy Garoppolo to Brock Purty, those 171 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: are abnormal situations, right. Joe Burrow goes down, there's probably 172 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: not a rock party that's just gonna handle and then 173 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: we're gonna win eleven games. Jalen ram He goes down. 174 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, we can figure this thing out. Potentially, 175 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm not. Maybe maybe you can't. But it's just fascinating 176 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: the way the league works. And I've been in these 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: personnel meetings. You're constantly Guys are getting cut, undrafted, free agents, 178 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, get released from teams, as pads come on guys, teams, 179 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: new coaches. One thing that will happen over the next 180 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: couple weeks. Is personnel departments in the coaching staffs will 181 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: figure out players that they thought they could depend on 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: that they no longer think that they can depend on, 183 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: and then they'll find guys that they didn't know that 184 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: they could depend on. Feel pretty good about those players, 185 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: and it'll change the strengths and weaknesses and the players 186 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: on your team that you think you need to upgrade. 187 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: And then there are always teams every year with new 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: coaching staffs, right Arizona, Indianapolis, Carolina, that are just willing 189 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: to trade players on their roster from previous regimes because 190 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: maybe they're not a scheme fit, maybe they make too 191 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: much money, Like maybe you're Arizona and you're trying to 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: bottom out, Like you'll listen some offers for Buddha Baker, 193 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: but he's a headliner. What if it's just a random 194 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: linebacker or like a third wide receiver, So like, yeah, 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: you want Rondelle Moore, we might be willing you give 196 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: a second round pick. You know, there are these discussions 197 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: happening right now because all of a sudden you realize, 198 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: like God, our wide receivers aren't that good. We need 199 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: to upgrade this position, or God, we do not have 200 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: very good guards. Are there any teams that maybe have 201 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: depth at that position that we can just trade a 202 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: mid round pick for and help us out immediately. So 203 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: those discussions will really amp up when the pads come on, 204 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: because it's the evaluations beside, Like your conditioning level don't 205 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: really change right now in training camp because you're not 206 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: in pads. I guess there are a couple teams in pads, 207 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: but the league will be in pads, and really a 208 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: couple days, maybe a week in the pads, you start 209 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: getting the feel like, oh, yeah, this guys might be 210 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: up for it, or this guy might not. And then 211 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: like three weeks in the camp, some guys after a 212 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: week you thought would be up for it, you're like, ah, 213 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: kind of wearing down right. And then into the season, 214 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: a guy early got some energy, plays well in September, 215 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the guy's for November. So you're 216 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: constantly kind of playing that game. But right now, all 217 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: these teams are thinking about is maximizing getting their team 218 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: ready day by day for week one, Like that's the goal. 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Who is ready to roll? What random players, second year guys, 220 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: rookies can help us out? Heading into week one, Right, 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: you have a pretty good idea depending on the team, 222 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: like the Eagles and the Chiefs and the Niners. Like, 223 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: there aren't that many moving parts, but maybe there'd be 224 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: a guy or two as camp goes on. Then there 225 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: are the shitty teams or teams that have just been 226 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: bad that the Texans, right, the Colts, the Cardinals, like, 227 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: everything's on the tape, right beside a small number of players. Right, 228 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: start over, baby, press the reset button. So let's enjoy it. 229 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: Football's back, rocking and rolling. Okay, let's go. Middlecoff mailbag 230 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: very very easy to get involved. Here's what you do. 231 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: You fire in my direct messages on Instagram at John 232 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Middlecoff two f's just my name. DMS wide open, and 233 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: I will attempt to get to your DM. I get 234 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: to a bunch of them, but it's just it's difficult. 235 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't have an assistant. It's impossible anyway the way directly, 236 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: I can't sort like you can emails to war Zone 237 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: in those dms, and I get a lot of them, 238 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: and I just react as they come. So if I've 239 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: missed you, I apologize. I attempt to get to everybody. 240 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: Let's start with Daniel. My question is related to the 241 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: franchise tag. I understand that the value of the tag 242 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: is based on the position of a player and the 243 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: highest salaries in the league at that position. In a 244 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: league where the lines between some positions have become blurred, 245 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: what would be the consequence of having more broadly defined groups, 246 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: For example, offensive skill group that would include bas tight 247 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: ends and wide receivers. In this scenario, the Giants would 248 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: have tagged Barkley, but the value of the tag would 249 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: have been higher. Don't totally hate that idea. I think 250 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: that's more than fair. I also think that forces a 251 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: team if you were going to include running backs with 252 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: tight ends and wide receivers, would force your hand if 253 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: it was worthy of doing that. No different than I 254 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: would say on defense. Right, there's a big difference between 255 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: franchise tagging Micah Parsons or Nick Bosa and franchise tagging 256 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: a really good safety just because you want them on 257 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: your squad. Right, it would make you think twice if 258 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: you could argue just offensive player defensive player. Hell, let's 259 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: do that, right. If you made it much more broad, 260 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: it would make the decisions much more difficult, and to me, 261 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: it would reward the better GMS, because that's what being 262 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: a GM is. You're just putting the pieces to the 263 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: puzzle together with your roster. And most teams that are 264 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: good attempt to avoid the franchise tag it all costs 265 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: because that's a good business because you never now the 266 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: franchise tag. Right now, for a running back the Giants, 267 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: you would rather franchise tag them no different than Josh 268 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: Jacobs on a year to year basis than to pay 269 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: them a long term contract. So teams like the franchise 270 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: tag with certain positions a star linebacker, a star safety, 271 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: a star running back. Right, and when I say star, 272 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: I just mean like a legit, you know, pro Bowl 273 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: level talent. But it's very very lucrative with quarterbacks, with 274 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: offensive tackles, with pass rushers or I think given the scenario, 275 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: and I don't think that's going to happen. It's just 276 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: one of those who knows, maybybe the next collective bargaining agreement. 277 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: I think the NFLPA is that a different sport now 278 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I think it was the NFLPA. They have a new head, 279 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: if I'm correct. I think, yeah, I'm pretty sure that happens, 280 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: but that they don't negotiate for a long time. That 281 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: would be something that you would for sure talk about 282 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: in one of these scenarios. The other thing is where 283 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: it is kind of you get murky water. Is Micah 284 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: Parsons is the that's not going to get franchised, right? 285 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I would Jerry shows that if you're good, he pays 286 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: you and extends you well before that scenario for the 287 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: most part. I mean they've it happened once with the 288 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: pass rusher from Boise, but they typically avoid it, right 289 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: dak Zeke Amari, Micah will Diggs. I do think that 290 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: when you are a guy, Remember Jimmy Graham years ago 291 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: argued he was a wide receiver, and ironically he was right, 292 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: Like he's technically a tight end, but he's a wide receiver. Like, 293 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: let's be real, Travis Kelcey is much closer to being 294 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: a tight end or excuse me, to a wide receiver 295 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: than a true quote unquote tight end like the George Kittles. 296 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: The guys that truly block are pretty few and far between, 297 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: so and you could argue, wait, I get paid less. 298 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: You asked me to dominate in the passing game and 299 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: run block Like look how mcglinche got fifty million dollars 300 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: because he's a good run blocker, he can't really pass block, 301 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: so it's it's a tough situation. They never win that argument, right. 302 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham lost it if Micah was ever in that 303 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: situation because he'd be like, fuck this, I'm a defensive 304 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: end pass rusher. Because they get paid a lot more 305 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: Packers fan in the Bay Area. I can envision a 306 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,359 Speaker 1: worst case scenario where Love throws more picks than touchdowns, 307 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: but they run the ball well and the defense plays okay, 308 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and they finish seven and ten and pick around tenth 309 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: in the draft. Love isn't the franchise and we don't 310 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: have a high enough pick to get Caleb or Drake May. 311 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Where do they go from there? What's the worst position 312 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: to be in? Like, the worst position to be in 313 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: in sports is somewhere in the middle. Right. It's one 314 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: thing when you have a really good team and Tom 315 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Brady gets hurt and you're like, don't make the playoffs. 316 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, I get it. Like Joe Burrow, who 317 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: looks to be fine with the calf injury. If he 318 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: would have let's say, you know, had a major injury, 319 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: You're like, God, what do we do. We're not planning 320 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: on losing. We don't want to lose. They would have 321 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: been very aggressive to go get a quarterback. I'm sure 322 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: if you would have had a serious injury. But you 323 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: never want to be in the position where like the 324 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, it's like, you're never going to suck enough 325 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: to win two or three games, but you're never going 326 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: to be good enough to win ten currently, so what 327 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: are we doing? Where are we at? I think the 328 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Raiders are going to find themselves in that position, especially 329 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: if Jimmy is somehow able to stay on the field. 330 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, they won six to seven games again, 331 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: well what does that get you? You nowhere near Caleb, 332 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: but you're nowhere good enough to go. Well, hey, we 333 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: lost in the first round of the playoffs. So it's 334 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: an admirable thing to do. Say what you want about Minnesota, 335 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree assuming that they're going to get 336 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: rid of Cousins, because I don't know where they go 337 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: from there. But at least they're competitive, right at least 338 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: if they're healthy over the last five six years since 339 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: they have had Cousins, they should be in the playoff mix. 340 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're a fan, you're like, you know, 341 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: if things go pretty well, when we win in ten 342 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: to twelve games, that's a good position to be in. 343 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: Most teams are not the Chiefs, right, The Patriots are 344 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: dying just to get back to be a playoff team again. 345 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: So it's you just never want to be in no 346 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: man's land. And I think that would be the worst 347 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: case scenario for the Packers if he's going to suck 348 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: in the scenario that you gave, Like, if he's gonna 349 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: let's just say eighteen picks, fifteen touchdowns, which would be 350 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: a disastrous year. You want to go four and seven 351 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: or four and seventeen. That'd be way too many games, 352 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: four and thirteen. So it's like, hey, we're drafted second. 353 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: That's where do you want to be. You'd want no 354 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: part of being like twenty touchdowns and eighteen picks and 355 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: we went seven to ten and we draft eleven. It's like, oh, 356 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: I guess you just write it out one more year him. 357 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: But there's the hard position about being a guy, you know, 358 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: of making transition from a really good quarterback because the 359 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: expectations is like how do you replace Nick Saban? Good 360 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: luck to the next guy that replaces him, right, good 361 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: luck to Jordan Love. It's really really difficult. And I 362 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: know Packer fans. I see you guys on the interweb 363 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: are just retired to Rogers, and I get it. It 364 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: would have been if I put my fan hat on 365 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: and I was a die hard, it would have got exhausting, right, 366 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: But I think you know you can get spoiled easily 367 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: off like this is not normal. I say it all 368 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: the time, like I'm not a Warriors fan. I fuck 369 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: with Steph Clay and Draymond when those guys are gone, 370 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: specifically Steph. I'm not gonna watch random NBA player play 371 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: for the Warriors win forty three games. I will not 372 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: care news for you, neither will most people. But you 373 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: give me great like I'm locked in part of the 374 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: reason the Packer fans. I know their historic brand, but 375 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: they've had, I mean, two of the best quarterbacks we've 376 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: ever seen and just two of the more entertaining players 377 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. Like it's a double whimmy. It's not 378 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: like we got a really good player, It's like we 379 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: got the entertainment value doesn't get any better since nineteen 380 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: ninety three, ninety four, I mean, it's two thousand, We're 381 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: not that far away from twenty twenty four. So more 382 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: often than not, in these scenarios, it falls off a 383 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: cliff I saw when I was a kid. I didn't 384 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: really live through Montana. I lived through Steve Young, and 385 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: then when his career ended with the concussion, it just, 386 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was a seamless transition, 387 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: but they got Jeff Garcia, who was obviously not Young 388 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: or Montana, but he sure didn't suck, and they kept 389 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: he go went the Pro Bowls. They were competitive, and 390 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: it was like commendable, and I think I speak for 391 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: every Packer fan. You would die for the Jeff Garcia. 392 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: We don't need Rogers, we don't need far But can 393 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: this guy throw twenty eight touchdowns and ten picks and 394 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: have us nine ten wins? That would be awesome. And 395 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I lived through it. It is awesome. 396 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: It's cool. It's very respectable as a fan. What's not 397 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: is that kind of middle tier where it's like you'd 398 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: rather just have the guy suck first time long time. 399 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Enjoy your perspective on the National Football League. Former Army 400 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: football player with ties to your alma Mater played under 401 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: Rich Ellerson, got my start under Rich and knew several 402 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: guys on that staff that are awesome. So I followed 403 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: you guys very closely when those guys were there. Anyhu, 404 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: My comment is about all the noise surrounding the running 405 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: back and how they are being unfairly compensated, and anyone 406 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: at the Naval academies really have a good appreciation for 407 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: the running game because you guys run it a lot. Oops, 408 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't mean to present. No need to darrow this as 409 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: a former Okay, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the NFL's 410 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: pay for Performance program. We're generally players with high playing 411 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: percentages and lower salaries relative to the players in their 412 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: playing time bracket receive essentially a bonus from a distribution pool. 413 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: I became aware of it a few years back with 414 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: Villain Aueva made the list. Former teammate Army Guy played 415 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. Here you also as a clean head. 416 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: I credit you with a great term. My dad also 417 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: rocks the cul de Sac up top, and I heard 418 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: you drop that reference years ago. I've passed along wherever 419 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: I could. Yeah, you just you can't in modern day times. 420 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: My dad had a cul de sac at my age 421 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: back in the eighties or whatever. You just that those 422 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: aren't allowed anymore. You either shave or you uh or 423 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: you shave. I don't know. You cannot have a cul 424 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: de sac. It's one thing to be sixty years old. 425 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: Cul de sac. Could de SAC's not allowed. If you're 426 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: to me, I'd say, like under fifty you could. You 427 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: could push you to forty five, but you got a 428 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: three in front of your age. You not have a 429 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,239 Speaker 1: cul de sac to me. The distribution pool though, so 430 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: you're a later round pick and you're making league minimum 431 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: and then you play a lot or you have success, Yeah, 432 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: you get a bonus, like that's part of the deal. 433 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: To me. It goes back to all the guys arguing 434 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: about this are not underpaid guys in the sense of 435 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: they all have large contracts. Nick Chubb makes twelve million 436 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: dollars a year, Christian McCaffrey makes twelve million dollars a year. 437 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, with bonuses and everything, now makes eight nine 438 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. He's very very well compensated. Saquon 439 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: ten eleven millions of dollars a year and turn down 440 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: a contract that would have paid him twelve thirteen million 441 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: dollars and guaranteed multiple years. I would totally understand their 442 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: argument if the average running back number was like three 443 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: million dollars. But my issue with this whole thing is 444 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: they act like they're on an island, like there no 445 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: other positions can relate. And then guys like Zach Martin 446 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: raised their hand, or Travis Kelce raised their hand, or 447 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, all the safeties raise their hand google 448 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: like Simmons and the Titans guy and just all the 449 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: good safeties in the league. They're not making eighteen million 450 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: dollars a year. Last time I checked. They played pretty 451 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: important roles, right. They make a ton of tackles, guard 452 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: the pass, Derwin James covers, tight ends, covers wide receivers, 453 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: blitzes plays the run. I mean asking those guys to 454 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: do a lot. Zack Martin, what do you do for 455 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: a living well? I block, and all these guys making 456 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty five million dollars, it's on me to 457 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: shove them the other way. Oh and then we decide 458 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: to call pass plays. This guy named Dak Prescott who 459 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: makes I think forty million dollars a year. It's my 460 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: job to pass protect. So when those guys making twenty 461 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year are running straight into me, yeah, 462 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: I have to make sure they don't hit the guy 463 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: making forty million dollars a year. Like what Zach Martin's 464 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: argument seems pretty good to me. Let's see, I help 465 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: us move the ball forward, which is the whole goal 466 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: of offensive football. And then when we pass and I 467 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: go backwards, I protect the most valuable asset on the team. 468 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: That's my job. And last time I checked PFF NFL 469 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: grades wherever, I do a pretty good job of it. 470 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm pretty durable, like I'm a pretty important player. A 471 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of all pros, not like you know, kind of 472 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: fake Pro Bowls, all pros. They call me the best 473 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: garden football. But that's what I do. And I make 474 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: seven million dollars this year, and those guys are bitching 475 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: and moaning about making twelve when I just that's what 476 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: really irks me is that they act like they're better 477 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: than these other underpaid positions as well. I just don't 478 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: get it because this is not true. Really solid segment 479 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: on the Raiders on the Latest Pot. As a fan, 480 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: I think you put the take together without wrapping it 481 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: in a boat. You mentioned McDaniels probably isn't out after 482 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: the year and the lack of backup quarterback, planet quarterback 483 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: and the whole Caleb Williams thing. I think it's fully intentional. 484 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: They look at Mahomes and Herbert in the division and 485 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: realize they need one two. Is there a more perfect 486 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: quarterback to bring in to tank than Garoppolo. He's a 487 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: guys guy, but there's zero percent chance he stays healthy 488 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: to win games. Shucks. We tried, but we really just 489 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: tried to get Kalo, who played the Pac twelve game 490 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: in front of Mark Davis last year. I think, and 491 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: you're not the first to say that. My only issue 492 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: with that is that is not I promise you it 493 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: is not Josh McDaniel's mindset. It's just not. He is not. 494 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't even know who you play week one, but 495 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: let's just say their mindset. Let's just use the first 496 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: month of the season his goal. He's going to try 497 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: to win every game. And let's just say, what if 498 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: they start three and one, they have enough talent that 499 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you look up and they win 500 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: seven games, you go seven and ten. It's a pretty 501 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: shooting season. But you go seven and ten, you can 502 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: wave goodbye to Kayleb Williams. But Derek Carr was horrendous 503 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: last year. It couldn't have been any worse, and they 504 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: were blown Lake and they won six. They go six 505 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: and seven, you know, six or seven wins. Remember they 506 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: drafted what last year? Eight? Was it eight or seven? 507 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: I think it was eight. So I think a lot 508 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: of people are thinking that. But we do this every year. 509 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: It's just it's so hard to get the number one pick. 510 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: I mean last year I was guilty of this. I'm like, 511 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Seattle's going to blow. The Giants are going to stink. 512 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: They both made the playoffs. They both made the playoffs. 513 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm a Newish listener and wanted to ask you something 514 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: about the mailbag. I was wondering if a fix in 515 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: the running back contract situation could be incentivized rookie contract. 516 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: That way, every rookie could get extra money by hitting 517 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: percentages of snaps played or touchdown score, and the running 518 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: backs could have some extra money before they hit the 519 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: open market. Think I heard Logan on nerd Sesh say this. 520 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: This gets back to my thing though, Like if I'm 521 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: a fourth round guard and you're a fourth round running 522 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: back and by your second year or third year you're 523 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: a really good player. We view you like this guy 524 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: might become a top five running back. And I viewed 525 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: immediately like I'm a Pro Bowl level guard? Well, how 526 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: do I put up stats besides just kicking ass and 527 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: taking names every week? Like? What did you do this week? 528 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: I just blocked Aaron Donald? What'd you do? Last week? 529 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: I just stoned to Forest Buckner? What'd you do? I? 530 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, I ran for seventy eight yards scored a touchdown? 531 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: So did what that guy did gets valued higher? Right? 532 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: And maybe you're talking about for all positions, but like 533 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: what if you're a safety? What if you're Tallnoah? Who 534 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: fun to forty nine ers? Usc six round pick by 535 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: a second year, full time starter, Pro bowler? Like, is 536 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: that guy less deserving than some of these running backs? 537 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: They're on rookie contracts. That's where it gets down the 538 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: slippery slope of I just think that they've kind of 539 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: put not they, but just this whole argument is putting 540 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: them on a pedestal. It's like the kid analogy, right, 541 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: it's almost acting like you got three kids. One kid 542 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: is dramatically more important and thus firstborns know, you know, 543 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: we get we're a little more important, but in the 544 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, that's not the way it works. 545 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to reach out and see why you and 546 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: so many others are down on Daniel Jones. Well, I 547 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: don't know when you thought I was down on Daniel Jones. 548 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I just, you know, fifteen million i'd like, or I mean, 549 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: for fifteen touchdowns. I have forty two million dollars a 550 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: little rich for my taste, but and I totally understand 551 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: run it back. I probably just would have franchised him. However, 552 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: when I watch him play, I see so much potential. 553 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: He's big, fast, has a good arm, he's fairly accurate, 554 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: and he's got great intangibles. He's been through so much 555 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: with bad coaches, a revolving door teammates, and his own 556 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: injuries that I don't think we scratched the surface of 557 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: his ability. I think last year was the floor of 558 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: his potential. And has a stable, competent organization around him. 559 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Who knows how good he'll become, but I could see 560 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: him becoming a poor man's Josh Allen. I don't think 561 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: he's as gifted as Josh and I don't think he'll 562 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: be that good, but I do think he could play 563 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: it a similar eighty percent production. Okay, I'm up on 564 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: the breaks there. When you do those comparisons, right to 565 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: any great player, I think this guy, I don't think 566 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna be Pedro Martinez, but I think he could 567 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: be a legit pitcher. I don't think he's gonna be honest, 568 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: but shit, I think you set the bar so high, right, 569 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen is one of the great physically gifted. 570 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: He's like a better version of Cam Newton as a passer, 571 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: right that you just don't see what he's working with 572 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: six ' five whatever, two forty I'm guessing can be 573 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: that fast with that big of an arm. Still has 574 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: some inaccuracy issues. That's why I think the Cam, he's 575 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: a better version of Cam Newton. Like to me, Daniel 576 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: Jones is probably the more physically gifted version of Alex Smith, 577 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: who proved great intangibles. People love him. But looking back 578 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: at Alex up until Washington, his contract was never that crazy. 579 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Part of what defined you as a player in the NFL, 580 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: because as a cap league is how much you make, right, 581 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: That's that's that's the business. This whole thing's about. Right, 582 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: any business acquiring another business, we judge you how much 583 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: did you pay for the business, and then a couple 584 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: years later, what's it worth for you? Right? Why did 585 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Google make a great move acquiring YouTube? So they acquired 586 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: it for a billion dollars? What could YouTube spin off 587 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: and sell on its own fifty billion? Eighty? You know, 588 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: thirty five billion? I don't know, but a lot more 589 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: than one. So when I pay Mahomes forty five million, 590 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you have to produce at an even 591 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: higher level. And then he does. The guy he's worth 592 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: every penny. And that's what the great quarterbacks manning whoever. 593 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: And it's why we're so critical of kind of that 594 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: next tier, right, Dak Cousins, like in a vacuum. Those 595 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: guys are good. Those guys are really good relative to 596 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: the history of the sport and the majority of their contemporaries. 597 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: But once I start paying you a premium, it's like, 598 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, fair or not? Because you don't change as 599 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: a player just because you get a bigger direct deposit. Right, 600 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: You don't get any better at your job just because 601 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: your boss gives you a raise. I mean maybe like 602 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: you produce what you produce. Now, maybe there's pressure on 603 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: you to produce more, and then it's on you to 604 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: land more sales, land more deals, do whatever is ask 605 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: of you and set industry. But like Daniel Jones, once 606 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: he gets paid that because I'm with you, he solid 607 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot to work with and he showed a 608 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: lot of mental fortitude everything he went through to come 609 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: out on the end last year. But I can't even 610 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: begin to get to Josh Allen one and two, Like, 611 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: can we just get twenty five touchdowns and you might 612 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: come back? Well, look at whose receivers that's fair. Well, 613 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: now the talent around him is a little bit better. 614 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: They add Darren Waller, they got Saquon back with his 615 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: mind right. I'd actually have to pull up your roster 616 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: to know who else is on offense, but lock up 617 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: your left tackle. To me, it's on him to produce 618 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: like part of Josh Allen, and he's benefited. They did 619 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: a really good job. They got him step On Diggs 620 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: who immediately came in and kicked ass. They drafted some 621 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: other talented skilled positions and they keep doing that. They 622 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: just drafted a tight end in the first round that 623 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: we all view is going to be pretty good. But 624 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: once you get paid a premium, you gotta start producing 625 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: a premium or you have to sustain producing the premium, 626 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: like all the great quarterbacks typically do. So we see 627 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: him do that. It was always why Alex always got 628 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: a lot of criticisms, never quite like God. It always 629 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: felt like he didn't produce enough to be like a 630 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback. Once I pay you forty million, I 631 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: don't care that. Oh the salary cap. I hear that 632 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: in the NBA of the time. Well, you can't look 633 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: at it like this because the salary CAP's going up. 634 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't give a shit. You're paying this 635 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: guy fifty five million dollars, whether a salary cap is 636 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million, two hundred million, regardless, the 637 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: guy fucking better be elite. Jalen Brown three hundred million. 638 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, terrible contract because he's never gonna be a 639 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: top five player. He just isn't. Now you can give 640 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: me the arguments, how do you upgrade? And that's the argument, 641 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, like, how do you upgrade? I get it, 642 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: but like you got, you gotta bring more to the table. 643 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: Once you get paid more, you either have to improve 644 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: or it's just not a good contract. So there is 645 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: I think we all agree. I probably sound like I'm 646 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: being negative here. There is a lot of pressure on 647 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: him this year, a lot of pressure. There's gonna be 648 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of fucking eyeballs, just nitpicking the guy, which 649 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: happened early on in his career, and then it was 650 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: like god, Joji, like who's coaching him? Now It's like, okay, 651 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: real coach had some success, Let's see what's going to 652 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: go on. Little suggestion. You say the word behemoth a 653 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: decent amount but reach, but each time you slightly mispronounce it, 654 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: you say bohemoth and it's actually pronounced behemoth. Is my 655 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: seventh grade English teacher appreciate it? You know, I can 656 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: take a hard coaching. Don't have an IG so I'm 657 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: borrowing my wife's get that a lot. I have a 658 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: lot of respect, even if clearly, whatever you do for 659 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: a living, you don't need any social media just you 660 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: just don't have it, just out of boredom. What do 661 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 1: you do in your spare time if you're just sitting there, 662 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: what is your go to app? Because I would say 663 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: Instagram seven days a week, I would say the stock 664 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: market kind of ticker is one. I'd say Instagram and 665 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: that one are the ones I wear out other than that, 666 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, besides texting, I don't have like a go 667 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: to app if you just I don't have Twitter on 668 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: my phone because I don't need the negative vibes, a 669 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: lot of negativity on that app. Threads is one of 670 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: the biggest overhype machines ever. I haven't been on that 671 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: in two weeks. But I don't really I don't really 672 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: use that many app Sometimes that little Heart app just 673 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: to see how many steps I got, see if I hit 674 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: that ten thousand number. Feel kind of good about myself. 675 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: But if you don't have Instagram, and I have a 676 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: lot of admiration, if you're not on your phone that 677 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: much because I'm jealous, uh, don't have Instagram. Why is 678 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: there a cutoff for a franchise tag players can sign 679 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: an extension. Why wouldn't they be able to do that 680 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: once the season starts. I've always wondered how anyone can 681 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: keep an extension except them keep up the great work. 682 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't have the answer to that. 683 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: I just I think there are things that are collectively 684 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: bargained for a reason. Right, It's like, if I'm going 685 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: to pay you a fully guaranteed deal, I don't know. 686 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think logically why that would make sense, 687 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: because because you would always want a guy that's franchise tag. 688 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: If a guy's franchise tag, even if you're hesitant to 689 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: give him a long term deal, it's still you're still 690 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: having meetings about it. Right. If you're willing to give ten, fifteen, 691 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: twenty thirty million dollars in one season, you are at 692 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: least having the conversation behind closed doors about extending the 693 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: guy long term. So that would be an ongoing process. 694 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: But I wonder if you know the owner's part of 695 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: negotiations is like, you don't get to get everything right. 696 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: This is kind of a win for us. Once you 697 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: get here's a certain date. If you don't agree to 698 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: a deal by then, it's off the table. So I 699 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: would imagine if I had to take an educated guest 700 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: teams float for that one, because we don't even want 701 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: to talk about it. We're paying you a lot of 702 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: These positions make a lot more than running backs. Fellow 703 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: caw Paul Lump nineteen ninety nine I have a question 704 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: for you on the running backs and draft eligibility. As 705 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: I understand it, you have to play three years of 706 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: college football. True. If this is the case, can you 707 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: see a scenario where a running back plays two years 708 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: in college and then takes the third off to prepare 709 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: for the draft. If I had a son that was 710 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: a stud at the position, this is what I would 711 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: advise him to do. I get that for some of 712 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: the top backs you are walking away from nil money, 713 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: but with the reality is the position being where they are, 714 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: you should save the amount of hits you take until 715 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: you get into the league. The younger you are, the 716 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: better off you are to get into the NFL asap. 717 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: So if you are a stud and a top pick 718 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: first round, early second round, and you can pan out, 719 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: you can be really young when you are due your 720 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: next contract. Here would be my pushback on that. In theory, 721 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: it sounds really good, but a couple things here. First 722 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: and foremost, you get better at something I don't care 723 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: what it is, being a doctor, being a podcaster, playing 724 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: running back. By doing that thing and a lot a 725 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of jobs, you can kind of practice right. Even 726 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: in sports. You can train baseball and basketball I've said 727 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: this forever. You can get much closer to what you're 728 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: going to see on the field or on the court 729 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: in a non official capacity. In football, it's impossible. So 730 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: taking a year off, for the most part, you are 731 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: going I would say, as a whole, are going to 732 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: get worse, very very rare in a scenario that I 733 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: think a guy is going to improve himself at that position, 734 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: at that position because and maybe I'm wrong, But the 735 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: other thing would be is that a lot of guys 736 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: I think of some of the recent running backs, right, 737 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: I say, Bijon somewhat of an outlier elite prospect, probably 738 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: would have been viewed that way after two years ago, 739 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: but I'd have to ask around if he improved his 740 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: stock a lot this year, which I think he did. 741 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: But Gibbs, the guy that went to the Lions, he 742 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: was a Georgia Tech transfer, right, Josh Jacobs didn't play 743 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: that much until I think a senior year. So a 744 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: lot of guys improve their standing by working their way 745 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: up the depth chart. Now, Saquon was a guy who 746 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: dominated before his junior year, so there are examples, But 747 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: for the most part, a lot of running backs improve 748 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: their stock over time. Right, and especially if you are 749 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: if you're coming out early, which a lot of the 750 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: top running backs do. Sometimes you just you don't. You're 751 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: not the full time starter, especially if you're hat a 752 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: big time program as a true freshman. So maybe you 753 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: mix in, you mix out now by the time you're 754 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: a sophomore, but then it's only one year tape. I 755 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy. I also think running backs in 756 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: college you can make a lot of money. As you 757 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: see what's to do to Michigan Blake Korn, he is 758 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: a stud remember got hurt at the end of last year, 759 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: returned to Michigan, why got broken off? Probably be a 760 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: third round pick, fourth round pick. How much you think 761 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: he's making in Michigan A couple of million bucks, give 762 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: or take. So I hear you. I don't think and 763 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: I know we've seen some examples that COVID year, Micah Parsons, 764 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: Sewel Justin Jefferson. I would say they tend to be 765 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: more outliars than like, yeah, Adrian Peterson could have done it, 766 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 1: maybe Saquon could have done it, But for the most part, 767 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't think many guys could pull it off. Hey, 768 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: John Listener, for a few years nonsports topic. What's your 769 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: fast food burger rankings? Culver's Butterburger never been big, Mac 770 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: hot take, Wendy's In and Out a little overrated. I 771 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: would say in and Out. I would go to Wendy's 772 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: for the chicken sandwich cheeseburger. Five guys is pretty good. 773 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: You know a place I've always wanted to go to 774 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: is Red Robin. I've never been to a Red Robin. 775 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: Driven by a million my entire life never been to me. 776 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: You're going to Wendy's. You're getting the spicy chicken sandwich. 777 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: Your podcast while I work my summer job landscaping. I 778 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: love your takes, appreciate you. I'm headed to Belmont University 779 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee, in hopes of becoming a lawyer and 780 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: then a sports agent. I chose Belmont because of the 781 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: free tuition, but also because they partner with the Titans 782 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: and the Nashville Predators organization. How do you think I 783 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: should begin or go about getting into the industry. I'm 784 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: also excited to see DeAndre Hopkins first season with the 785 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: Titans and plan on attended games and use the game 786 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: time AP promo Goo John. I like it. Secondly, I'm 787 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: a huge Saints fan and want your opinion. With the 788 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: Saints having the third easiest schedule in the league and 789 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: being the worst division, could you see them having a 790 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: season like the Vikings did last year. I think there's 791 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Derek Carr. I think there's 792 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Dennis Allen. I think both 793 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: guys last time I saw, they expect Mike Thomas to 794 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: be fully healthy. They obviously last year had a good defense. 795 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: I think they had a game against the Raiders, ironically, 796 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: where the Raiders never moved the ball past the fifty. 797 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: I think maybe they did the last drive of the season, 798 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: but they yanked the last drive of that game the 799 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: Yank car. I would say there is a tangible pressure 800 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: on them to win that division. Doesn't have to be pretty, 801 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: but I would say anything less than the Saints winning 802 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: the South, assuming the Derek stays healthy, is kind of 803 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: a disaster that they have no business to not. The 804 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: Bucks are in complete rebuild reset mode. The Panthers have 805 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, new coaching staff. I just think the Falcons, 806 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: who the Fox are quarterback. It's kind of now. It 807 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a thirteen win season. But to me, 808 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: they should go ten and seven. And if you go 809 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: ten and seven in that division, you're winning it. My 810 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: recommendation would be twofold one. Even if you're the smartest 811 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: guy on campus, you're gonna be there for three and 812 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: a half years. I would kind of ease your way 813 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: in just enjoy being a college kid, have a good time. 814 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you're eighteen years old now, and while you're 815 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: doing that, you know, just kind of work through the 816 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: athletic department what you need to do to get with 817 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: the Titans. It's an incredible opportunity, it's right there. But 818 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: you only get this time once in your life. Man. 819 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: Once college ended for me, went to work immediately at 820 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: the Fresno State and then the Eagles, and you just work. 821 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: You just work NonStop and I'm still working. But you 822 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: have a small period of time in your life to 823 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: just have a little fun. And I'm not trying to 824 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: like deter you from being the next Jeff Bezos of football, 825 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: like you can just or Mark Zuckerberg or Elon or 826 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: something like. You're clearly driven. You have your mindset more 827 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: dialed in than me. But I would just try to 828 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: be somewhat at least of a college kid. Your freshman year, 829 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: you get that experience one time in your life, even 830 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: if you are fucking theo Epstein. You can run a 831 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: team when you're thirty. You know, you just enjoy yourself 832 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 1: a little bit, man, because you get these times only 833 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: so often. Never know, meet a lady might be your 834 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: future wife, maybe not, maybe just you know, night hookup, 835 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: but just just have a time while you're kind of 836 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: you know, every maybe week or month. Try to make 837 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: a little incremental progress your freshman year, getting your foot 838 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: in the door, doing what you have to do. Because 839 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: if you're going to work, if you have to work, 840 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: you want to work in what your what you ideally 841 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: want to do, Like, you don't want to waste your 842 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,959 Speaker 1: time if you want to work in football, I would 843 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: say doing another job in another industry. And there's one 844 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: thing to like, you know, work at a restaurant to 845 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: get some money, that's understandable, But you don't want to 846 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: have to work at like Morgan Stanley or do something 847 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: that you don't want to do. Do everything you can 848 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: to work in what you want to do, but have 849 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,479 Speaker 1: a good time. Bro. It's it's college. It's fun. It's 850 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: the one time in your life you really just nothing 851 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: really matters. Because I promise you this, don't fail out 852 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: of school now if you want to go to law school? 853 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: Is that what you said? Your grades are somewhat important, 854 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: but no one's ever asked me ever, well my grades 855 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 1: were in college? I couldn't even tell you. I think 856 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: somehow by the end, I maybe got over a three 857 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: point zero, but I was hovering there of mid low twos. 858 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: You know, for a long time, no one gives a shit. 859 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't Now certain industries matter. I'm not anyone listening. 860 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: That's a doctor, that's a lawyer getting into certain grad schools. 861 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: For sure. I'm not trying to get you off on 862 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: the wrong path. That's screwing up. But for a lot 863 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: of us, no one asked Belichick what he got in 864 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: econ one on one is sophomore year at college. It 865 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: just it does not matter. Audios, have a good day, 866 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: let's enjoy some football. Piece the volume