WEBVTT - TWITTER-PALOOZA: A Deep Dive Into Elon's Bombshell Release

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<v Speaker 1>There was a big story that broke this week and

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<v Speaker 1>it dealt with an important issue, actual silencing and censoring

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<v Speaker 1>of conservative voices on Twitter right before major elections. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do a deep dive on it. I'm Ben Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is verdict with Ted Cruz, Senator. The Internet

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<v Speaker 1>got broken the other night because of Elon Musk and

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<v Speaker 1>all that he exposed, and it was a big story, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, there's a guy in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>DC that looks like you and it's freaking me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's freaking a lot of people out. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's someone you would never expect to be wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>look like you. His name is Mitt Romney, who has

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<v Speaker 1>grown a beard for people watching there. It is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he lost his razor. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he's trying to resurrect his career to make people

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<v Speaker 1>like him. And he saw how much people loved your beard.

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<v Speaker 1>You got advice on this one. Well, listen, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mitt's beard looks great. He came back from Thanksgiving and

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<v Speaker 1>he had white stubble covering his face. U it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that his beard is all white. His hair is not

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<v Speaker 1>all white, but the beard beard is and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it looked good at so met and I

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<v Speaker 1>were laughing on the on the Senate floor. I welcomed

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<v Speaker 1>him the cooks in the Bearded club and and said

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<v Speaker 1>was glad to have him. As you know. I asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the deal, what's going on? And he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he just you know, didn't shave over Thanksgiving. And said

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<v Speaker 1>he was, you know, figured what the heck keep it? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, he said, Anne thought it looked kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked that. That made him happy. Yeah, he said

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<v Speaker 1>he's never grown a beard in his life. It's entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>like college, grad school, never in his life had a beard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did share with him a story. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna find they're different views depending on the generation,

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<v Speaker 1>and in particular, young people twenty something thirty something will

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<v Speaker 1>love the beard. But there's another generation, which is typically

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<v Speaker 1>women in their seventies and eighties who can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmother said she didn't like my dad. When my

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<v Speaker 1>mom they were daying, she said, I don't like his mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a police officer. He's hiding something. That's literally

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<v Speaker 1>what She wasn't joking she goes, I don't like him,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust him. So my father had a beard

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies and he's shaved it because a woman

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<v Speaker 1>at church said she didn't trust men with beards, that

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<v Speaker 1>they were dishonest. And look, I think that really comes

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<v Speaker 1>out of the sixties and seventies and hippies, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a generation where they see someone bearded and they think

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<v Speaker 1>you're a hippie. And a story I told Mitt. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I was standing actually right where Mitt and I were standing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is down at the well of the Senate, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking with Mitch McConnell and Diane Feinstein came

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<v Speaker 1>up and Diane looked at Mitch and said said, Mitch,

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<v Speaker 1>when are we going to get ted to shave that

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<v Speaker 1>hideous thing on his face? And I turned to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Diane, next thing, you know, I'm growing a ponytail,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting birkenstocks, and I'm coming after your bass. Would

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<v Speaker 1>she say? Mitch McConnell cracked up, laughing, and Diane looked

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<v Speaker 1>at me, completely confused and befuddled. It just she did

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<v Speaker 1>not understand what I was saying. So I told Mit that,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently that might have scared him too, because the

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<v Speaker 1>next he shaved it. The very next day he shaved it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to take that kind of heat from Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest. He wants to be friends with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves the Democratic bass. He I loves the liberals

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<v Speaker 1>liking him. Of course he's going to shave them well ed,

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<v Speaker 1>he said to him, He said, this thing itches? Does

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<v Speaker 1>it really itch? I said, yeah, for a day or two,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it passes. And so I actually went to

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<v Speaker 1>MIT that next day and said, Mit, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>officially lodge a protest on behalf of all of your

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<v Speaker 1>grandchildren growing back that you're denying them a Santa Claus

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<v Speaker 1>beard right before Christmas, and I think it's wrong. The

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<v Speaker 1>grandkids are dismayed. I gotta ask your two daughters. When

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<v Speaker 1>my dad apparently he shaved his mustache the only time,

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<v Speaker 1>we apparently freaked out and cried, I don't remember we

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<v Speaker 1>were little kids. Did your daughters like the beard instantly

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<v Speaker 1>or do they say no, dad? Yeah, my girls are

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<v Speaker 1>actually not crazy about the beard even now, even now

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<v Speaker 1>it's I've had it now a couple of years. I

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<v Speaker 1>like it, but my girls, my girls could do without.

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<v Speaker 1>Well if you get if you if you get confused

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<v Speaker 1>with Mitt Romney, it's really gonna screw with people. He

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<v Speaker 1>shaved it now, so I think you're safe. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to worry about people walking on Hey, Senator,

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<v Speaker 1>can I get a picture with Mitt? Can I get

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<v Speaker 1>a picture with you? From Utah? I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen now. It's fair to say mits bass

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<v Speaker 1>and my bass are very different. Yes, very different. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into this serious topic obviously, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do a deep dive. So everybody today make sure

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Because we're doing an entire show dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>what just came out of how much government And there's

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<v Speaker 1>two parts of the story. There's government influence in the

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<v Speaker 1>private sector, and there's a private sector also silencing people

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<v Speaker 1>that they're told to silence by government officials. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's shocking to see how much their collusion there was.

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<v Speaker 1>And Democrats love the word collusion. They've been obsessed to

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<v Speaker 1>that word for a long time. You want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about real collusion, Elon Musk is showing us there was

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<v Speaker 1>real direct collusion between the Democratic Party and big tech

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<v Speaker 1>silencing conservatives. You look at this story and this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be multiple parts, they're now saying, so they

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<v Speaker 1>release some of this information, and I want your overall

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to it, just how dirty it was behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes at Twitter to make sure people that we're having

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<v Speaker 1>an influence were silence with big stories. Now, Senator, before

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<v Speaker 1>get to this. It is shocking what we saw your

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<v Speaker 1>overall reactions. All this information was coming out. Well, it's stunning,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot more is coming. So you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are sitting here at a Sunday afternoon. The first trunch

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<v Speaker 1>of emails and tweets has come out. Elon Musk has

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<v Speaker 1>has promised a second trunch coming out later today, so

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<v Speaker 1>we will see what the second trunch holds. But the

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<v Speaker 1>first one is stunning, and it's a whole Twitter thread.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd encourage people to read the entire thing. But what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do on this pot is we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the highlights of what's most important. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's start. Let's start with the first one. And this one,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually I think the eighth tweet, but it

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<v Speaker 1>goes right to the heart of it, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>an internal email within Twitter that reads more to review

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<v Speaker 1>from the Biden team colon and there are a series

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<v Speaker 1>of five links to different tweets other people have said,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it says thanks all, and the response two

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<v Speaker 1>words handled these. And to be clear, this was basically

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<v Speaker 1>they went through Twitter the day before or in the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days. They said, Hey, these are the

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<v Speaker 1>tweets are most damning to us the Democratic Party. We

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<v Speaker 1>send them to Twitter, and we want you to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of all these silence all these people, shut all

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<v Speaker 1>these people down. And it was just direct links to

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<v Speaker 1>tweets and then that said handled. There was no pushback,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no questioning, there was no we'll take a review.

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<v Speaker 1>It was how high you want us to jump at Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take care of your problems. Yeah, this is Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>acting as an arm for the Biden campaign, acting as Look,

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<v Speaker 1>that's almost how you task an employee. Hey, here five

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<v Speaker 1>more to take care of. Handled these done. Just that's

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<v Speaker 1>who we work for. We're carrying it out and it

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<v Speaker 1>goes worth. Let's look at the next one. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>this is Elon Muss kind of commenting, giving a meta

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<v Speaker 1>comment on the entire thread, and he points out he says,

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter acting by itself to suppress free speech is not

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<v Speaker 1>a First Amendment violation, but acting under orders from the

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<v Speaker 1>government to suppress free speech with no judicial review is. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain something that's important. Why is Twitter acting

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<v Speaker 1>on its own not a violation of the First Amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason is the First Amendment only applies to government. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>as it was written, it only applied to the federal government.

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment begins with Congress shall make no law. It

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<v Speaker 1>applied to Congress. Now, since then, the courts have expanded

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<v Speaker 1>the First Amendment, so it applies to the entirety the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government, it applies to state governments, it applies to

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<v Speaker 1>local governments. But a private company, Twitter or anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>implementing some policy, the First Amendment doesn't govern it. But

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<v Speaker 1>as Elon points out, there's a major exception to that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, if a private company acts at the behest

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<v Speaker 1>of the government, if it is censoring because the government

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<v Speaker 1>is turning it into an instrumentality of censorship, then the

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment does apply. And what these tweets show is

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<v Speaker 1>that's what was happening. And I got to say this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we have been explaining this theory of First Amendment liability

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<v Speaker 1>for three years Yeah. We got into it on a

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive when the emails became public between doctor Fauci

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook, and I explained on the

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<v Speaker 1>Verdict podcast how those emails make Facebook and they're similar

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<v Speaker 1>communications with Twitter face very real liability because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>just acting as private corporate actors, they're acting as an

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<v Speaker 1>instrumentality of the government, an agent basically of the government.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are one of these individuals, and we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this come out, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a deep dive into this is their legal recourse

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<v Speaker 1>now for the people that clearly were put on these lists,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of conservatives that are now on

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<v Speaker 1>this list that we don't that we know of. There's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously going to be more that we're going to find

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<v Speaker 1>out about where their tweets were silence or counts or

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<v Speaker 1>silence and even shut down. If you are one of

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<v Speaker 1>those individuals, is there a real chance that you could

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<v Speaker 1>actually sue because of this and possibly win. Absolutely. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the next tweet because it actually goes

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<v Speaker 1>directly to the question you just asked. So celebrities and

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<v Speaker 1>unknowns alike could be removed or reviewed at the best

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<v Speaker 1>of a political party. And if you go to the

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<v Speaker 1>attachment here, I grabbed the first one under SI defer

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<v Speaker 1>to safety on the high profile second one. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first one, someone who I don't think is well known,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently that poor fellow tweeted something that Biden and

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<v Speaker 1>the DNC didn't like, and Twitter promptly squashed him. The

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<v Speaker 1>second one there is his famous guy is a tweet

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<v Speaker 1>from James Wood, the actor, And so the tweet says,

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<v Speaker 1>or the email says, an additional report from the DNC,

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<v Speaker 1>and they forward a tweet James Woods sent and Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>responded by immediately banning James Woods. And he has said,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to sue on this. I'm not backing down.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have crowns because we hear a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people say a lot times, are going to sue these emails?

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<v Speaker 1>Give him what he actually needs for a case. Is

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been told from several others who said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is bad news for the DNC. Yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>bad news for Twitter in general. So going Twitter will

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<v Speaker 1>get sued, Biden will get sued, the DNC will get sued.

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<v Speaker 1>James Woods has said on Fox that his career was

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed by what the DNC was doing. That Twitter acting

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<v Speaker 1>to ban him ended up hurting his acting career. And

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<v Speaker 1>so one of the things you have to prove in

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<v Speaker 1>a defamation suit is you have to prove damages. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a very real chance someone like James Woods

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to All right, let's go to the

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<v Speaker 1>next tweet. So this is shifting into Hunter Biden. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Biden laptop story comes out. It's October of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. It's right before the election. The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Post publishes it, and then this is reading from this tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter took extraordinary steps to suppress the story, the Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Biden laptop story, removing links and posting warnings that it

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<v Speaker 1>may be unsafe. Reading this story may be unsafe. They

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<v Speaker 1>even blocked its transmission via direct message, a tool hitherto

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<v Speaker 1>reserved for extreme cases, eg. Child pornography. So they decided,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to use every tool we can to nuke

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Biden laptop story, and essence and essence taking

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Biden story and making sure that you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>share it as if it was child pornography. They used

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<v Speaker 1>the same exact technology yep and importance within Twitter to

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<v Speaker 1>say this story is so damning to Joe Biden, to

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party, to this presential election, and obviously Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>was acting as an agent of the Democratic National Committee

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<v Speaker 1>in the Joe Biden campaign, that we will treat it

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<v Speaker 1>like it as child pornography to make sure this story

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<v Speaker 1>can never get out to the masses. What I think

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<v Speaker 1>is funny is the use of the word unsafe, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you think of unsafe, liked reading this may

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<v Speaker 1>damage you. You know, you think in the online world,

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<v Speaker 1>this has a virus in it, like there's something unsafe

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<v Speaker 1>about this website's unsafe. You don't want to go there. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>What they meant about unsafe is it's not safe for

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<v Speaker 1>the political fortunes of Joe Biden and the Democrats, that

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<v Speaker 1>if you read this article, it's gonna hurt the candidate

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<v Speaker 1>we support. All right, let's go to the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>So how far did they go? White House spokeswoman Kaylee

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<v Speaker 1>Mcaninny was locked out of her account for tweeting about

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<v Speaker 1>the story, prompting a furious letter from Trump campaign staff

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<v Speaker 1>or Mike Cohn, who seethed quote at least pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>care for the next twenty days. The next twenty days

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<v Speaker 1>was until the election. And if you look at this

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<v Speaker 1>email that the campaign staff are sent to Twitter, Kayley

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<v Speaker 1>mccaneey has been knocked out of her account for simply

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the New York Post story. All she did

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<v Speaker 1>is cite the story and first hand reporting that has

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<v Speaker 1>been reported by other outlets when the story came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden didn't say this is not my son's laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden didn't say this is false. He didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>it was fraudulent. He just said, oh crap, this is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Please no one read it because I don't like the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me look really bad. The email continues, I

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<v Speaker 1>need an answer immediately on when how she will be unlocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't appreciate how nobody on this team called

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<v Speaker 1>me regarding the news that you'll be censoring news articles

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, at least to pretend to care for

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<v Speaker 1>the next twenty days. Look, this is the White House

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<v Speaker 1>Press secretary that Twitter bands less than three weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>a presidential election. Why because Joe Biden the Democrats wanted

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<v Speaker 1>this story suppressed and the arrogance of we will silence anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, according to Big Tech, the White House Press

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<v Speaker 1>secretary cannot talk about articles in major newspapers. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Post has the fourth largest circulation of any newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>in the country that, as we now know, are true

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<v Speaker 1>and accurate news stories, but are politically damaging to the

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<v Speaker 1>side Twitter wants to prevail. If you're Kaylee MCKININNY and

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<v Speaker 1>you see now what was happening behind the scenes, what

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<v Speaker 1>are her options legally? Can she do anything because she

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<v Speaker 1>was at the White House? Because that's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>many Democrats are betting on as well. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>fog of war that so they kept going back to, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. We were so concerned about Russianson's information. That's

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<v Speaker 1>our get out of jail free card, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to protect the integrity of an election. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to that. That's their game plan here,

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<v Speaker 1>And Bennet, It's why what Elon Musk is doing is

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<v Speaker 1>so important, because they could maintain that a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days ago, they could say, oh, it was fog of war.

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing it because we thought it might be hacked.

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing it. What Elon is doing is releasing

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<v Speaker 1>the goods and so let's get through a few more

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<v Speaker 1>of these, because it will show that the lefty Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>defense is just complete bs. So let's get to the

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<v Speaker 1>next one. You can see the confusion in the following

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<v Speaker 1>lengthy exchange, which ends up including Gaddy and former Trust

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<v Speaker 1>and Safety chief Yoel Roth. Comm's official trent and Kennedy writes, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm struggling to understand the policy basis for marking this

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<v Speaker 1>is unsafe. And let's read the exchange in close. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is October fourteenth, twenty twenty, so just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks before the election. New York Post Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 1>laptop article privileged and confidential. Oh, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get sued. Let me you put privilege and confidential on

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<v Speaker 1>something when you're afraid of getting sued, and you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>this email will really hurt us and cause us to

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<v Speaker 1>lose if we get sued. Our teams continue to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>the origins of the material included in the reporting. Trenton

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy is the COMMS official. I'm struggling to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>policy basis for marking this is unsafe, No kidding, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best explainability argument. Okay, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a way to explain it. Yeah, we banned

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<v Speaker 1>it because it hurts Biden. That's not a good answer.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the best explainability argument for this externally,

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<v Speaker 1>not internally. Externally, internally, we know exactly what we're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>but externally we got to figure out something to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be that we're waiting to understand if this story

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<v Speaker 1>is the result of hacked materials. We'll face hard questions

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't have some kind of solid reasoning for

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<v Speaker 1>marking the link unsafe. And Katie Roseboro comes and says,

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<v Speaker 1>will we mark similar stories as unsafe? And she points

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<v Speaker 1>out that the Senate Homeland Security Committee was investigating the

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<v Speaker 1>hard drive in the laptop. No answer to that, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to the next one. By this point, everyone knew

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<v Speaker 1>this was FT YEA, and they didn't abbreviate FT, said

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<v Speaker 1>one four employee. But the response was essentially to air

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of continuing to air. Now, let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at the exchange back and forth, and it'd be quick.

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<v Speaker 1>This means let's just run out the clock. Yeah, close

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<v Speaker 1>to election day. If we can just run out the

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<v Speaker 1>clock here until the election, by default, if we win,

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<v Speaker 1>we're good. We succeeded in our goal, which was to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that Joe Biden won the election and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump lost the election and other Republicans losing the process

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<v Speaker 1>that are down ticket. We just gotta be smart. For

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<v Speaker 1>twenty days, nineteen days, eighteen days, we're on account down clock, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We can pull this off for our team. That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>And they know what they're doing is political. It's utterly transparent. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going back and forth. Yoel Roth, who was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the senior officials at Twitter. The policy basis is

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<v Speaker 1>hacked materials, though as discussed, this is an emerging situation

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<v Speaker 1>where the facts remain unclear. In other words, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that this is hacked. We're just making this up.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it wasn't, but they didn't know it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the most revealing sentence of all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Given the severe severe as in all caps risks here

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<v Speaker 1>and lessons of twenty sixteen, we're airing on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of including a warning and preventing this content from being amplified. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what were the lessons of twenty sixteen. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remember and go back to twenty sixteen. Well, there was

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<v Speaker 1>this guy named Donald J. Trump, who won. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>the severe risks here is Donald Trump winning again. Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 1>If people read what Hunter Biden and Joe Biden we're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>if they read the corruption, they're not going to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for that guy, which means the guy we hate will

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<v Speaker 1>get reelected. They're admitting, here's what's the risk. The risk

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<v Speaker 1>is Trump wins. So we're just story nothing connected Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Quenton back in the day. They're literally saying, the risk

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<v Speaker 1>is Donald Trump wins another four your term. That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to the next tweek. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so the former vice president of Global Communications guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Borman asks, can we truthfully claim that this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the policy and let's pull up the full context.

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Borman new to Ian's point, Can we truthfully claim

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<v Speaker 1>that this is part of the policy, ie, as part

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<v Speaker 1>of our approach and addressing potentially hacked materials, we are

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<v Speaker 1>limiting visibility of related stories on Twitter while our investigation

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<v Speaker 1>is ongoing. Now, this is a brief moment of Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're lying. Everyone knows we're lying. But do we have

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<v Speaker 1>any fig leaf to pretend that we're following a policy

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not simply doing the behest of Joe Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>this almost like a conspiracy to commit fraud. You where

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<v Speaker 1>if you the way that they're with every word you said,

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<v Speaker 1>except for the word almost, it is conspiracy to commit

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<v Speaker 1>fraud because there's a conspiracy to defraud the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>to defraud the American voters, to defraud democracy. This is,

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<v Speaker 1>to use the term that Donald Trump likes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>rigging an election. This is this is conspirac Say that again,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a very important point that you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>This is evidence of rigging an election. Now it's not

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<v Speaker 1>rigging an election in the sense of Venezuela hacking into

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<v Speaker 1>voting machines, but it is rigging an election in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense of big tech billionaires at the behest of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the two parties, silencing and censoring and blocking truthful

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<v Speaker 1>reporting about facts that would change how people vote. So

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<v Speaker 1>then there's an by the way, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>who does this, Putin does this. You know who else

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one, to which former Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker

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<v Speaker 1>privilege and confidential. That's oh crap. This is a document

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<v Speaker 1>It's Twitter that has the privilege. Yeah, so in litigate,

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<v Speaker 1>not the individual right because Twitter is the client. So

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<v Speaker 1>attorney client privilege the client owns and possesses it. The

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<v Speaker 1>client can wave attorney client privilege. So when Jim Baker

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<v Speaker 1>typed this, he figured will Jack Dorsey owns Twitter? So

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter will never name this privilege. And the relevance of

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<v Speaker 1>this is if you had a lawsuit and the other

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<v Speaker 1>side filed for discovery and tried to get this email

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's labeled privilege and confidential off the record, at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, a lot of it you'd have an argument.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have an argument in front of the chord

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<v Speaker 1>about whether it was in fact privilege, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>attorney client privilege, whether it was advice being given to

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<v Speaker 1>the client. And they're ways to waive that privilege, but

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<v Speaker 1>the simplest one is for the client to say I

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<v Speaker 1>waive it, which is what Elon Musk has done by

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<v Speaker 1>releasing it. So let's see what Jim Baker says I

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<v Speaker 1>support the conclusion that we need more facts to assess

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<v Speaker 1>whether the materials were hacked. In other words, he's admitting

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know if they were hacked or not at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage. However, it is reasonable for us to assume

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<v Speaker 1>that they may have been, and that caution is warranted.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the Biden campaign wasn't saying they were hacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Never once they say the laptop wasn't true. Never once

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<v Speaker 1>the camp they say that it was inaccurate. Never once

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<v Speaker 1>they come out and condemn it or say anything negative

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<v Speaker 1>about it. They were silenced because they understood that they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't say that. The email continues. There are some facts

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<v Speaker 1>that indicate that the materials may have been hacked, while

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<v Speaker 1>there are others indicating that the computer was either abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>and or the owner consented to allow the repair shop

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<v Speaker 1>to access it for at least some purposes. We simply

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<v Speaker 1>need more information. Now, who is Jim Baker? He was

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<v Speaker 1>the general counsel of Twitter. You know what he did

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<v Speaker 1>before that, or was his job before that? He was

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<v Speaker 1>the General council of the FBI, who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>what everyone just take a moment to digest that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really big deal the FBI General Counsel who, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not a little job, explain how big of a

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<v Speaker 1>job that is the its a huge job in the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim Baker was intimately involved in much of the

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<v Speaker 1>abuse of power we saw at the FBI. He then

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<v Speaker 1>runs over and is at Twitter doing the same thing continuing.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that comes out in this thread

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<v Speaker 1>is how much of a continuous web it is from

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<v Speaker 1>the deep state at the FBI to big tech and Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>which is willingly part of the FBI's effort to silence

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<v Speaker 1>dissent from those they disagree with. It really is stunning

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<v Speaker 1>that it's literally the same people. Can I hit pause

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter for a second, and again, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know, but I think we can speculate at

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<v Speaker 1>this point if this was going on at Twitter, is

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<v Speaker 1>there any ounce of your thought process that thinks that somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>other big tech companies like Facebook, we're not doing the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same thing, the exact same emails, get having the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same communications that we're now seeing. Revealed by Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 1>they all were, and the mothership is Google, Google, and

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>they own YouTube. Google is the biggest and the most powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter was the most brazen, like like Dorsey was just

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<v Speaker 1>screw it all. We're leftists and we're proud, but we

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<v Speaker 1>know Facebook was doing this. They did the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>on the Hunter Biden story. And Google is where you

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<v Speaker 1>have the biggest impact. And so I guarantee you Google

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<v Speaker 1>and Facebook are both looking at this going oh crap,

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<v Speaker 1>oh crap, you're airing dirty laundry. Don't talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>in public. First rule of fight club as you don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about fight club. This for all a big tech

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<v Speaker 1>and the abuse of power. This is pulling back the curtain.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the next one. Although several sources recalled

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about a quote general warning from federal law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen of any government involvement in the laptop story.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that might have been the problem. Let's gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the next one. Quote they just freelanced it end

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<v Speaker 1>quote is how one former employee characterized the decision. Quote

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<v Speaker 1>hacking was the excuse. But within a few hours pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much everyone realized that wasn't going to hold, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one had the guts to reverse it. Now stop and

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<v Speaker 1>think about that, like they made up this hacking thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the alibi. No, but he was conclaiming it,

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<v Speaker 1>including the candidate, including Hunter Biden. Right, if Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 1>it came forward said this is not my laptop. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be something. If Hunter Biden had come forward

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<v Speaker 1>and said my laptop was hacked, you might at least

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<v Speaker 1>have something. None of that happened. Twitter just made it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh crap, bad stuff for Joe Biden. I know it's hacked,

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but within hours let me read again the quote from

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<v Speaker 1>one former employee. Within hours, pretty much everyone realized that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to hold, but no one had the guts

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<v Speaker 1>to reverse it. So they knew they were lying, but

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>they thought they'd never get caught. Next to tweet all right.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>An amazing subplot of the Twitter slash Hunter Biden laptop

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<v Speaker 1>affair was how much was done without the knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>CEO Jack Dorsey and how long it took for the

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<v Speaker 1>situation to get unt Yeah again, they didn't abbreviate FT,

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>but were this is a child friendly show, so we're

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>doing so, as one X employee put it, even after

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<v Speaker 1>Dorsey jumped in, So listen, I don't exonerate Dorsey in this.

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>He created a culture where he put in place decision

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<v Speaker 1>makers who were hard partisans, who hated Donald Trump, who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted Biden to win. And we're willing to do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>We're willing to lie, We're willing to act at the

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<v Speaker 1>behest of the Biden campaign. Remember the exchange at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>Handled it? Handled it? Yeah, they view themselves as we

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<v Speaker 1>have an obligation. What's the obligation learn from the quote

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<v Speaker 1>lessons of twenty sixteen and make sure it doesn't happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of reporting saying Jack Dorsey is

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned there knew nothing. Was that on purpose by these employees,

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<v Speaker 1>or do you think maybe he said leave me out

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<v Speaker 1>of it so I have the ability deniability? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they just knew their marching orders so well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can do this and this is normal active business

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<v Speaker 1>for us. We're just gonna keep doing it. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to call him because this is what we've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing for all these other stories. Possibly you know some

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<v Speaker 1>combination who knows, who knows where he was, who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he was doing, who knows what his state of

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>mind was at the time this was happening. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know any of that because you've actually questioned Dorsey. I

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>have questioned, and it got pretty intense when you were

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>questioning it. We have gotten into it on this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a subsequent verdict, will we'll pull up and

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Dorsey's testimony before Congress in light of

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<v Speaker 1>this exchange that that will be one of the podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. Let's finish going through this thread. All right, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>here's an interesting thing. I'm just gonna read this. In

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<v Speaker 1>one humorous exchange on Day one, Democratic Congressman Rocanna reaches

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<v Speaker 1>out to Gaddy to gently suggest she hop on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone to talk about the quote backlash respeech. Kanna was

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<v Speaker 1>the only Democratic official I could find in the files

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<v Speaker 1>who expressed concern. And let's look at his email, Rocanna wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>generating a huge backlaw on Hill re speech. Happy to

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<v Speaker 1>chat if you're up for it, best Row. So number one,

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<v Speaker 1>this Democrat congressman is on a first name basis with

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<v Speaker 1>these high muckety MUCKs at Twitter, sends him this email.

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<v Speaker 1>He to his credit, Look, I don't know Rocana my understanding. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he understood. This is a bad road to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a left wing Democrat, but apparently he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the very few liberals, who actually is a real liberal

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<v Speaker 1>in that they believe in free speech. But let's do

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do the next one. Twitter files continued quote the

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment isn't absolute. Zabo's letter contains chilling passages relaying

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic lawmaker's attitudes. They want more moderation, and as for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill of Rights, it's quote not absolute. Let's read

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing here. The Democrats meanwhile, complained that the

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<v Speaker 1>companies are inept. They let conservatives muddy the water and

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<v Speaker 1>make the Biden campaign look corrupt, even though Biden is innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>They link this to Hillary Clinton's email scandal. She did

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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong, but the press wouldn't let the story go.

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<v Speaker 1>It became a scandal far out of proportion. In their mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media is doing the same thing. It doesn't moderate

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<v Speaker 1>enough harmful content so that when it does like it

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<v Speaker 1>did yesterday, it becomes a story. If the companies moderated more,

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<v Speaker 1>if they censored more, conservatives wouldn't even think to use

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<v Speaker 1>social media for disinformation, misinformation or otherwise. And it continues.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats were in agreement social media needs to moderate

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<v Speaker 1>more because they're corrupting democracy and making all quote truth

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<v Speaker 1>relative when pushed on how the government might insist on

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<v Speaker 1>that consistent with the First Amendment. They demurred, quote, the

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendment isn't absolute. Now, this guy is a consultant

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<v Speaker 1>or a lobbyist. I'm not sure what he does exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's some guy on Capitol Hill who's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of Democrat lawmakers right in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of this, and he's reporting back that, Hey, when I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the Democrats other than Rocana, none of them

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<v Speaker 1>are unhappy at you censoring this story. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy you're not censoring more. The request from Democrats is

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<v Speaker 1>censor more. In fact, censor so much that conservatives won't

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<v Speaker 1>even be able to tell your censoring because you just

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<v Speaker 1>silence everything. And that's what they did. Everything was fact check.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw. Look, I was at CNN at the time

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<v Speaker 1>when this was happening, as a conservative commentator fighting the

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<v Speaker 1>tough fight there. We had to deal with media matters,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had to deal with all of the things

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<v Speaker 1>we were sharing being silence, and it was it happened instantaneous.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you have to wonder if you're not paranoid,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just dealing with probably the reality that they said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>these conservatives that are on TV. We want to shut

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<v Speaker 1>them down, these concervatives. We need to just start nailing

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<v Speaker 1>them and silencing and making sure their distributions. And clearly

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<v Speaker 1>from those early texts, it was anything that went viral.

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<v Speaker 1>It you didn't have to be famous, and you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a mark. And notice the Democrat congressman

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<v Speaker 1>or complaining about quote truth. Right, the Hunter laptop was true,

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<v Speaker 1>and they knew it was true. And well they knew

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<v Speaker 1>at least that the Biden campaign wasn't denying it. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care. Their definition of truth is anything that politically

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<v Speaker 1>benefits Democrats. The definition of false is anything that politically

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<v Speaker 1>hurts Democrats. All right, let's move to the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So this is a very interesting This is

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<v Speaker 1>not part of the Twitter thread. But to understand, you asked,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the consequences going to be? Yeah, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a tweet from Shaan Cooksey. Shaun Cooksey is a

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner on the FEC, the Federal Elections Commission. I know

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<v Speaker 1>Sean well. Shan used to be a lawyer on my

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<v Speaker 1>staff in the Senate Office before he got appointed and

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed to the FEC. Here's what Shaan Cooksey tweets out.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what Twitter told the FEC in its response to

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<v Speaker 1>a complaint about this event quote. Twitter did not receive

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<v Speaker 1>a request from the Biden campaign to review, much less restrict,

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Post articles and go to the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Nor did decision makers at Twitter, or to the best

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<v Speaker 1>of the company's knowledge, anyone authorized to act on Twitter's behalf,

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<v Speaker 1>even communicate with the Biden campaign regarding Twitter's decision to

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<v Speaker 1>enforce its content moderation policies with respect to the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Post articles. You want to talk about very real consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>It appears that Twitter lied to the Federal Election Commission,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will point out so I've got here here

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<v Speaker 1>in my hand. Their actual response. It's a lengthy response

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<v Speaker 1>where they make those statements, but they attach at the

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<v Speaker 1>back of their response two sworn affidavits, one from Yoel Roth,

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<v Speaker 1>who's one of the senior officials deeply implicated in this

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<v Speaker 1>where he says here a couple of things in his

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<v Speaker 1>sworn affidavit. As a matter of practice, neither I nor

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<v Speaker 1>the other members of the site integrity team communicate directly

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<v Speaker 1>with persons outside Twitter that report content for violating Twitter's policies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lie. We know that, although he does say then,

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty eighteen, I've had regular meetings with the Office

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<v Speaker 1>of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI, and industry peers regarding election security. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he goes on. He says Twitter's trust and safety leadership

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<v Speaker 1>determined that the New York Post articles violated the distribution

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<v Speaker 1>of hacked materials policy and the Private Information policy, and

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<v Speaker 1>instructed the site integrity team to execute enforcement of those policies.

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<v Speaker 1>We know from these internal discussions. No, they didn't determine

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<v Speaker 1>it violated the hacked policies. They pulled that out of

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<v Speaker 1>their rear end and then realize, oh, crap, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence for us, no basis for us. But well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just stick to it, run out the clock and election day,

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<v Speaker 1>and Roth's sworn Affidavid, the final two paragraphs I want

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<v Speaker 1>to read for you. I did not receive any communications from,

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<v Speaker 1>or have any communications with representatives for Biden for President,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic National Committee, or any of their agents regarding

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Post article before Twitter implemented the enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>actions on October fourteenth, twenty twenty. The final paragraph of

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<v Speaker 1>the affidavit. To the best of my knowledge, no Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>employees received any communications from or had any communications with

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<v Speaker 1>representatives of Biden for President, the Democratic National Committee, or

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<v Speaker 1>enter their agents regarding the New York Post article before

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter implemented the enforcement actions on October fourteenth, twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a second sworn affidavit from Lauren Culberson, who was

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<v Speaker 1>the head of US Public Policy, and she likewise, she

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<v Speaker 1>says that she's the point person for officeholders, election officials, candidates, campaigns,

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<v Speaker 1>and party committees. And she says that the public policy

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<v Speaker 1>team receives requests from persons for tweets to be reviewed

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<v Speaker 1>for ciance with Twitter's policy, and we forward those requests

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<v Speaker 1>to review content to enforcement agents, including members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Trust and Safety teams. So she's the portal to send

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<v Speaker 1>the request on and then she has the final two things.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't receive any communications with Biden, to the best

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<v Speaker 1>of my knowledge, no one else received communications with Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's scorn affidavits, so that changes things. These two

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<v Speaker 1>individuals who signed their name to sworn affidavits, if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have lawyers, they need to call a lawyer. They

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<v Speaker 1>need to call a lawyer right now, because they are

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<v Speaker 1>facing potential civil liability, potential criminal liability. And I'll point

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<v Speaker 1>out on top of that, Twitter faces liability, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know who else faces liability the Biden campaign and the DNC. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>so they could be sued and it could be legitimate. Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the basis of the complaint that Twitter lied to the

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<v Speaker 1>FEC about was that Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story

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<v Speaker 1>was an in kind campaign contribution to Biden for president.

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<v Speaker 1>And so their whole defense is no, no, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>just did this based on our hack materials policy. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it wasn't about Biden at all. We now know

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<v Speaker 1>that's a total lie. And I'll tell you what's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The next tronch of materials is dropping any minute now,

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<v Speaker 1>which means we know what Wednesday's show is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be about. Yep, We're gonna keep doing a deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>into this. I will say this to everyone that is

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<v Speaker 1>listening and watching us Wednesday morning, we will continue part

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<v Speaker 1>two of this. We will go through it for you

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<v Speaker 1>so you understand what's happening. We do want you to

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<v Speaker 1>get in the fight in the game. Make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>hit that forward button, the share button, share the video

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<v Speaker 1>the audio file with all your family and friends. Senator

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<v Speaker 1>crew is gonna keep going deep into this on Wednesday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We do this podcast Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling all this week it's gonna be on this,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you if you miss an episode, make sure

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>you go back and listen to it as this keeps

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<v Speaker 1>coming out and I have a feeling sent and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you'll agree with me. What they're doing at Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>right now is they're saying this is who we were,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not going to be this moving forward, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to pull back from this. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to keep unloading this information in a way. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was clear Elon must said this is basically just the beginning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume he's seen everything, which means there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more to this and it gets worse than what

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<v Speaker 1>we've even seen. So stay with us all week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be very interesting to see what this means. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to make a prediction. I think this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring a lot of pain to Facebook at some point, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what it's also seeing now is this

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<v Speaker 1>worrying you're hearing is document shredders at Facebook and Google

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<v Speaker 1>and YouTube that they're shredding things like crazy because they're

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<v Speaker 1>worried what's coming next. Well, and if there's anything you

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<v Speaker 1>can connect these two dots with is what they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing with the laptop. And the way they dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>these things is exactly the same way that they were

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with doctor Fauci and anything he wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>silenced with COVID nineteen. And if you look at how

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<v Speaker 1>different those stories are, one was quote fake hack material,

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<v Speaker 1>the other one was just a government saying we want

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<v Speaker 1>the narrator to be what it is. I think these

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<v Speaker 1>stories are going to be intertwined in a way like

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<v Speaker 1>we never could have imagined. Stay with us all week long.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you back Wednesday morning. Hit that share button

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<v Speaker 1>right a five star review center. This has been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday morning, We'll see all you guys back here.