WEBVTT - 090923 Listening to Black Women is What Makes America Great (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you just tuning in to Civic Cipher,

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Ramsey's jaw.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the time. I'm que most of the time. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said before, people say some different things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>My mother though cast me Quentin, all right, but most

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<v Speaker 2>of the people that I spend most of my time

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<v Speaker 2>would call me q Ward.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, the man, the myth legend.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in the studio after traveling may as well be

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<v Speaker 3>in the globe because it was all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, good to have you back in the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to keep that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, we still got a lot more show in

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<v Speaker 1>store for you. We're going to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About what happens when we listen to black women Wow yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and why supporting black women is mission critical not just

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<v Speaker 3>for black people but for all people in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something here that is we've done this sort of

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<v Speaker 3>thing before, but it's been a long time and we

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<v Speaker 3>definitely need to touch on this stick around. But first

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about police a lot on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we we their activities caused that. Yes, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>seek them.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, Nope.

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<v Speaker 3>But by being critical of the police, we believe that

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<v Speaker 3>we can point out where they are wrong, where they

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<v Speaker 3>can do better, and where they should do better. But

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<v Speaker 3>to be fair, we also need to point out when

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<v Speaker 3>they get it right. And we've done this many times

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<v Speaker 3>on the show. Today is going to be another example. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>please shot that woman. She died and her baby died.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay from TMZ. Michigan cops saved the life of a

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<v Speaker 3>baby dying in the middle of a busy intersection and

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<v Speaker 3>it was all caught on dramatic video. The hero officers

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<v Speaker 3>pulled over the tots mom and uncle for speeding going

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<v Speaker 3>eighty miles an hour in a forty five zone in

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<v Speaker 3>the city of Warren last Tuesday. You've been to Warren, Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the family was driving fast. There's a lot of black

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<v Speaker 3>people in Warren.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in comparison to Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, Well that's enough because in the video the

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<v Speaker 3>officers are white, the people in the car black.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, let me go on.

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<v Speaker 3>The family was driving fast to get to the hospital

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<v Speaker 3>because their eighteen month old boy was choking and turning blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Please.

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<v Speaker 3>Dash cam footage shows one cop jumping out of his

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<v Speaker 3>patrol car to traffic light and rushing up to the

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<v Speaker 3>family stopped in their sedan. The baby's mom and uncle

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<v Speaker 3>are totally freaking out, screaming for help and begging to

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<v Speaker 3>go to the hospital, but there's no time. The officer

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<v Speaker 3>grabs the infit and starts patting him on the back,

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<v Speaker 3>dislodging the object in his throat. The cop passes him

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<v Speaker 3>to another officer who drives a child to a hospital

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<v Speaker 3>and the little ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, okay, all's well. That ends well.

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<v Speaker 3>Police, when they get it right, and it makes the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to shout that out too. We recognize that

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<v Speaker 3>you're human beings and your system is corrupt, but individually

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<v Speaker 3>you can be good. And this is one example.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we move on, I'll say this again.

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<v Speaker 1>Compared to Phoenix, yes, okay, but not compared to Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>From Detroit, So okay, very good, very good? All right? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when we listen to black women?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we can talk for this, we can talk for

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<v Speaker 2>hours about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Into it. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna do this

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<v Speaker 1>one backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>I have this written in a certain way where I

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<v Speaker 3>want to want to cover it a certain way, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna start backwards. Today we're gonna be talking about

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<v Speaker 3>three black women. I'm gonna be reading from Black and Prize,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, so you can find this reading yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>We're only going to pull a piece of it. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be talking about three black women. We're in positions

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<v Speaker 3>of power in this country who are forcing us, not

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<v Speaker 3>just the conservative.

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<v Speaker 1>People in this country, but.

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<v Speaker 3>All of us to understand what accountability should be. Because

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<v Speaker 3>all three of these black women are at the helm

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<v Speaker 3>of three different investigations and court proceedings or judicial undertakings

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever you want to call them, targeting the former

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<v Speaker 3>President Donald J. Trump's behavior either in his business dealings

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<v Speaker 3>or with respect to the election or whatever. And these

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<v Speaker 3>black women are tough, and these black women are brave

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<v Speaker 3>where a lot of our elected officials have not been brave,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are showing us the best parts of humanity

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<v Speaker 3>by how about this we know on this show, and

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<v Speaker 3>we can say this as black men who have mothers

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<v Speaker 3>and sisters and women in our lives that we you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we can say that black women are are.

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<v Speaker 1>The most disrespected, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Most vulnerable to attacks, that black women were the last

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<v Speaker 3>human being to receive her voice in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Briefly, tell the story about your mom. You just said

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<v Speaker 1>it before we started recording.

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<v Speaker 2>So President Obama's first term, the first vote in Maricopa

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<v Speaker 2>County was your brother and co host who slept at

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<v Speaker 2>the polls because it was that important to me, because

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<v Speaker 2>when my mother reached voting age, she couldn't. So people

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<v Speaker 2>hear these stories about the past and the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the history of our country, and it's like, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in our minds, these stories happened so long ago. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about a few generations gonna talk about my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>H A lot of you know, our followers and some

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners even have come across my mom, either

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<v Speaker 2>in lives or some of them even in person. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people that I went to college with got

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<v Speaker 2>to meet my mother, and not as my mother, but

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<v Speaker 2>just as someone who was present at the school, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lifting up people who needed it. My mom would come

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<v Speaker 2>and spend the night and anybody who was dealing with something,

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<v Speaker 2>she would stay up overnight. When the sororities and organizations

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<v Speaker 2>were doing lock ins and sleepovers. My mom would drive

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<v Speaker 2>down and this is when my mom was in a wheelchair.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I talk about. Even when her burden is heavy,

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<v Speaker 2>she's still gonna go out of her way for everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me, let me, let me, let me ask you

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<v Speaker 2>a question. It is possible for human beings to be kind.

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<v Speaker 2>It does not matter what color these human beings are.

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<v Speaker 2>What color is just imagination anyway, cultural line, tribal lines,

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<v Speaker 2>you can find kindness everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you?

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<v Speaker 1>How about if you had to pick somebody to pray

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<v Speaker 1>for you. That made me emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the best way to ask that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, it made me emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>Way to ask that question. I had to pick someone

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<v Speaker 2>to pray for me, specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that person look in your mind? Q?

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<v Speaker 2>She looks just like Reverend to Stella secrets and my pastor,

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<v Speaker 2>my mother, my best friend, my cheerleader, my teammate, my shelter.

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<v Speaker 3>I want I want to take you, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>take you back, Q. If I may I get myself

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<v Speaker 3>together here? Do you remember seeing those pictures of those

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<v Speaker 3>wet nurses. There were black women that fed the children

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<v Speaker 3>of white women during slavery. That was their designation was

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<v Speaker 3>to take care of the house, to keep everything in

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<v Speaker 3>order to You know, there's a lot that can be

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<v Speaker 3>said about the men who built this country, and I

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<v Speaker 3>will see that entirely because some of those arguments are irrefutable.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that the arguments are complete without

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<v Speaker 3>the mention of the black women who made it possible.

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<v Speaker 3>The black women who made this show possible. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Westernberg for taking the time with me when I

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<v Speaker 3>was nineteen, because I didn't have anybody else, but nobody

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<v Speaker 3>else would stop me looking like me to say, young man,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't I know your name?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that no one else would because no

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<v Speaker 2>one else did. Like this is not Sometimes the language

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<v Speaker 2>that we use, in the way that we speak can

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<v Speaker 2>be received or interpreted as us being hyperbolic or like

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<v Speaker 2>being you know, grandiose. In our language, these stories are literal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to happen, to happen. So the point the point

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<v Speaker 3>is just so that we don't harp on one part

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<v Speaker 3>of this. Black women are, we say on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>as close to God as we will ever be on

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<v Speaker 3>this planet. Women are very very special creatures. Black women.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to know what resilience looks like. If

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<v Speaker 3>you want to know what forgiveness looks like, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to know what empathy the best, the best that

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<v Speaker 3>human beings are capable of, you need to look no further.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The black women that we're going to talk about today

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<v Speaker 3>are serving as a reminder of what is fair because,

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<v Speaker 3>as we've often articulated on this show, and as many

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<v Speaker 3>people who don't see the world the way that we do,

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<v Speaker 3>they even know full well that there is a two

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<v Speaker 3>tiered system in this country right that treats these people differently.

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<v Speaker 1>From these people.

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<v Speaker 3>Often times, if you are rich and guilty, you are better.

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<v Speaker 3>You're treated better than if you are poor and innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>And we often find that poor, innocent and black is

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<v Speaker 3>a dangerous intersection to be at when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>criminal proceedings. In fact, I can point to young thug

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<v Speaker 3>free ysl in a Georgia state prison right now, for

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<v Speaker 3>more than a year with no bond, has offered deny

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<v Speaker 3>bond five times, offered so many different ways of getting

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<v Speaker 3>that bond. What conditions does the court need? Former President

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump legal system despite there being a black woman

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<v Speaker 3>at the helm, It's just it just exists this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump comes in rico charge, same.

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<v Speaker 2>Charge, same charge, same state, same.

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<v Speaker 3>State, same same prison, same photograph, same They have to

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<v Speaker 3>stand from the same wall to take same picture. Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>here's here's my bond right here. Two hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in and out. Okay, two tier legal system.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, inequality exists in this world, but it often exists

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<v Speaker 3>for the benefit of the wider you are, the straighter

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<v Speaker 3>you are, the more masculine you are, the more Christian

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<v Speaker 3>you are. You know, it exkews in that direction, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and that imbalance, that inequality comes at the expense of

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<v Speaker 3>the darker you are, the more feminine you are, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like on and on and on

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<v Speaker 3>and so you start to see how black women are

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<v Speaker 3>where a lot of these a lot of the benefits

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<v Speaker 3>that go to those privileged come from black women. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. If black women are disenfranchised, white

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<v Speaker 3>men conservative, but white men, there's enough of them can

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<v Speaker 3>make the world however they want to, and everyone suffers.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's not that person? Not quite well, white women can benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>But because white women can benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>They help. Sure, that's a fair point.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a fair point, but that represents a very small

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<v Speaker 3>sliver of humanity, even including them. But there's a good

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<v Speaker 3>amount of them that realize that the patriarchy disenfranchises them too.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, white women can and do benefit from white supremacy,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's enough show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that's a fair pointed to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But here we are. If it were not for black women.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that part again, because whatever you're saying after it,

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<v Speaker 2>if not for black pop.

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<v Speaker 3>If it were not for black women, these men and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking about all white movie on this show,

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<v Speaker 3>we affirm constantly that white men are our brothers. White

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<v Speaker 3>women are our sisters. Right, we are just the older

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<v Speaker 3>brothers and sisters in the room because our tribe is

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<v Speaker 3>the oldest tribe on this planet, and if it were

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<v Speaker 3>not for our tribe, no other tribe would exist. And

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<v Speaker 3>so we are the older brothers, and we have the

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<v Speaker 3>capacity and the maturity to see things in this way,

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<v Speaker 3>and we do our best to do that as often

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<v Speaker 3>as we can. But if it were not for black women,

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<v Speaker 3>these white men, who are often very conservative, would be

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<v Speaker 3>free to create the world the way that they want

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<v Speaker 3>it to be, and everyone else would be subject to

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<v Speaker 3>the whim's decisions. Power structures of that group of people.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, black women are the reason that there

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<v Speaker 3>is not unchecked power in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Heavy the former president, he's attacked black women constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, he attacks people, he attacks people.

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<v Speaker 3>But to me, it feels like it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of stink on it when he's attacking black people. We

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<v Speaker 3>called Amarosa a dog. I'm not a fan of that lady,

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<v Speaker 3>but he called her a dog. It's in a tweet.

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<v Speaker 3>You could look that up ilhan Omar Muslim women, right, beautiful, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy to attack for someone like him, though, because his

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<v Speaker 2>constituents feel that by nature of the way she prays

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<v Speaker 2>that she's somehow beneath her less than on top of

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<v Speaker 2>being a mellenated.

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<v Speaker 1>Won't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about Katanji Brown Jackson. Let's talk about Kamala Harris, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and the list goes on. Anybody that Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump disagrees with, he attacks. That's fair. But these black women,

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<v Speaker 3>that little bit of stink. Don't think I don't notice that. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as I mentioned, black women step up time and again

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<v Speaker 3>to save this country from itself.

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<v Speaker 2>That part needs to be highlighted and it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be said like that as often as possible. Black women,

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<v Speaker 2>in more instances than any other specific designation of person, creed, ethnicity, race, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>Black women and in more cases than anyone that I

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<v Speaker 2>can remember, have stepped up specifically to save the United

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<v Speaker 2>States from.

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<v Speaker 1>Her saved the democracy, save the American democracy. Now, how

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<v Speaker 1>did black women do that personal sacrifices? We talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Mammie Till Mobley when they dragged her boy and they

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<v Speaker 3>drowned her boy, Immettil and she said, open casket, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see what they did to my son. And

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<v Speaker 3>it went early viral, super duper viral.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Gas on the civil rights movement. The bravery and the courage.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't embarrassed, She didn't go inwards, She didn't cry.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, nope, my son's death is going to me

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<v Speaker 3>and son, it's my only baby. Black women have buried

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<v Speaker 3>their children. For those that caught the first half of

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<v Speaker 3>the show, there's a Black woman bearing her daughter and

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<v Speaker 3>her unborn grand baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Time and again.

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<v Speaker 3>Black women are buried that chuldn't had to take them

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<v Speaker 3>off of trees because they're hanging on the trees. Had

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<v Speaker 3>to gather the burned bodies okay, bravery displays of strength.

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<v Speaker 3>How do black women say this country from itself? How

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<v Speaker 3>is it possible? How do they display the best of humanity?

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<v Speaker 3>As black women have not gone off the reals? Black women,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what you believe. I don't even believe

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<v Speaker 3>it most of the time. But black women pray. And

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<v Speaker 3>if that's not a display of faith, I've seen faith

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<v Speaker 3>express to almost every culture, and a good number of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been on the soil with them in the place

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<v Speaker 3>where they are expressing their faith. Never before where have

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<v Speaker 3>I seen a more profound expression of faith than from

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<v Speaker 3>Black women.

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<v Speaker 2>From black women praying specifically.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean to say, thank you, But also

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<v Speaker 3>that same bravery. It turns into activism, black women, activists, poets, writers.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back further. Tubman was an activist, right did

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<v Speaker 1>she not imagine this?

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<v Speaker 2>Though? Right in a country where the patriarchy has been

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<v Speaker 2>upheld for as long as it has, in a country

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<v Speaker 2>where history would much rather highlight the positive exploits of

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<v Speaker 2>a man champion, right even through times of folklore and

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<v Speaker 2>a whitewashing of the history of this country, and even

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<v Speaker 2>in a place where now we have governors throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>United States trying to get rid of black history, that

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<v Speaker 2>the story of someone like Harriet Tubman has continue throughout history.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, because why not rewrite that story? It's different.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a CSS. Yes, you can't, you couldn't. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>only version of the story. There is only that version

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<v Speaker 2>of the story. The leader of one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>powerful moments in the history of man of humankind, led

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<v Speaker 2>by once again a black woman.

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<v Speaker 3>So black women, through their sacrifices, their faith, displays of strength, activism,

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<v Speaker 3>votes in the modern era, given every everything that we've

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<v Speaker 3>given black women, they have turned it into progress, not

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<v Speaker 3>just for themselves but for the whole country.

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<v Speaker 1>Black women, in a very selfless way, almost always yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we have black women holding the former president

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<v Speaker 3>and by extension, every politician accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know what's on the menu.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to shout these people out before we

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<v Speaker 3>move on. Letitia James, the first woman of color to

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<v Speaker 3>service New York's Attorney General. Letitia James, first woman of

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<v Speaker 3>color to service New York's Attorney General, has shown unwavering

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<v Speaker 3>commitment in investigating and prosecuting Donald Trump in his business

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<v Speaker 3>dealings in Georgia. We're going to talk about Fannie Willis,

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<v Speaker 3>who has risen to the challenge of investigating Trump's actions

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<v Speaker 3>during the twenty twenty election. As the first woman to

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<v Speaker 3>be elected as district Attorney in Or County. Willis has

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<v Speaker 3>navigated complex legal battles and faced pressure from various quarters,

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<v Speaker 3>yet she has remained focused on upholding the rule of

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<v Speaker 3>law and ensuring that all individuals, regardless of their status

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<v Speaker 3>or influence, face the consequences of their actions. As mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>and then let's go down to US District Judge Tanya Chutken,

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<v Speaker 3>an exemplar of judicial integrity who has shown willingness to

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<v Speaker 3>deliver the harshest sentences possible for those involved in the

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<v Speaker 3>January sixth insurrection, despite the government's requests for leniency in

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<v Speaker 3>certain cases. Judge Chuchkin has been unyielding in her pursuit

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<v Speaker 3>of justice or decisions have sent powerful a powerful message

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<v Speaker 3>that attacking the corp of democracy will not go unpunished.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump immediately called for her recusal and a chance, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>a change a venue because he doesn't believe he will

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<v Speaker 3>receive a fair trial any minute now. I expect him

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<v Speaker 3>to also brand her a racist. And because of Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's rise to power was undeniably fueled in no small

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<v Speaker 3>part by a wave of angry white men.

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<v Speaker 1>Responding to Obama's election and re election.

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<v Speaker 3>These men, feelings enchanted and disempowered in a changing world,

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<v Speaker 3>found a champion and Trump, who promised to restore their

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<v Speaker 3>perceived sense of entitlement and returned to a bygone era

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<v Speaker 3>they believe was rightly theirs. This surge of angry white

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<v Speaker 3>men is manifested in various ways, encompassing political and extremism,

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<v Speaker 3>domestic terrorism, and the rise of movements like the alt

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<v Speaker 3>right and the Men's movement, as well as the Proud

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<v Speaker 3>Boys and the right wing death squad that's been doing

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<v Speaker 3>all these mass shootings and on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 3>So shout out to black women one time, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to do it for us here on Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>So once again I'm your host, Rams' job.

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<v Speaker 2>And once again I am q Ward. Once again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>to black women, if that needed to be said again,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to and follow black women, the very very outspoken

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<v Speaker 2>and mostly correct leaders of this country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's where everybody is going to find what it

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<v Speaker 3>is that we really need to find as people. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to say it any plainer than that,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll leave it right there and until next week, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace, Peace,