WEBVTT - Please, for the Love of God, Stop Singing: State vs. Linkhaw 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:03.600 Ridiculous crime is a production of My Heart Radio. Mr 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:07.520 Zaron Burnett, what's up, Elizabeth Dutton? You know it's ridiculous, 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:14.480 I do. Actually, For instance, daylight savings time kills people. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.680 Kills people, Yeah, I mean like NEDDA doesn't like strangle 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.560 them in their sleep. But daylight savings time is responsible 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.200 for a spike in deaths, specifically heart attacks. On the 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.680 Monday after daylight savings time, people who report to hospitals 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.000 with the heart attack goes up by almost really why 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.720 just to change in time and we're very sensitive creatures 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.600 and we don't really recognize that. So people get stressed 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:38.879 and all of a sudden or they get you know, 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.360 their body is unsorted out if you will, and they 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:46.480 get a heart attack. Boom, my goodness c D. Yeah. 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:55.080 Also just the shock away TV. Hey, okay, b r B, 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.360 that's crazy. That is ridiculous. Literally, just one hour of 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.680 time change hoses people to you know, have heart attacks 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.800 will say, okay, that's that's bunkers. Yeah, we are very 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.840 light sensitive. You know what else is ridiculous? No hit 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.640 me with it singing so poorly that you get pinched 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.479 for disturbing the piece. It sounds like something that could 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:38.440 happen to me. This is a ridiculous crime. A podcast 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.160 about absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It is 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:51.160 always murder free and ridiculous. Um are you a good singers, Aaron, Yes, 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.080 yes I am. I am a smooth voice baritone. You go, 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.640 you go all in on your singing. I do. I do. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.360 I like to sing, even though I do abysmally I know, 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.640 but I love that you're just like there for it. No, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.800 I think that my real Like I say, you say 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.880 that I had a singing style, it's gusto. You're gonna 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.760 love the dude, I'm gonna tell you about that. It 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.400 sounds like one of my people. Oh yeah, completely, I'm 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.200 a terrible singer to how wouldn't say that? I sing 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.280 for comic effects. That's not terrible in my book. But 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.799 like I like to do what I call the junior 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:31.399 high talent showing. You have you have to quote one 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.880 finger to your ear like you're harmonizing in the studio 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:41.079 singer totally, and you have to kind of alied over 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:44.079 all the words because you're not a hundred percent sure 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.200 what the words are. And then and then a whiny tone. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:53.760 I'm going to need an example. No, no, that's it 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.880 only works in person, and we are in person. Well, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:03.240 there's people listening. There are strangers listening. The other thing 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.119 with junior high talent show singing is that, um, if possible, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.400 you you put the you put your say, index finger 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.440 into one ear and then with the other hand you 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.800 have to hold a pen is your microphone, and you 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.400 use your pinky and your ring finger you tap it 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.200 to keep time, kind of like Whitney Houston would do. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.799 You know, there's just a whole there's a whole thing. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.280 So it's kind of personal. Maybe is just something you do, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:37.240 likeror No. I never did a talent show, never once 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.680 competed because you know what, people gotta pay for my talent. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.160 Oh so if you're good at something, never do it 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:48.080 for free, right like my celebrity impressions. So anyway back 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:52.440 to singing, it's super I'm not gonna hit you. It's 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.960 really incredible to be in the presence of someone who 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.000 has good pipes, right. Oh yeah, but you can can 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.680 actually saying if you're like your oldis read his best friend, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.080 you're still oh completely Do you remember how an American 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.680 idol people got really into the first couple of weeks 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.080 because it was all the really crap singers. Yeah. I 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.320 have a lot of musician friends, and that was their 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.760 absolute favorite thing to do, is to gather together and 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.960 watch those episodes, just dying how bad people could sing. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.040 And I, you know, as a bad singer, I wouldn't 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.560 defend them, but I wasn't nearly as entertained as they were. Right, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.080 But I mean, like people who go all in on 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.839 bad singing, ridiculous hero my people. Right, I want to 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.080 tell you a story about bad singing took place in Lumberton, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:35.839 North Carolina, in eighteen seventy two. Wow, not expect that 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.960 not contemporary. Have you ever been to Lumberton? No, not 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.520 that I'm aware of. My father could probably possibly correct that, 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.080 but I'm sure he's been there, so he's definitely he 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:46.800 may have say, he may have taken me through, and 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.000 I just do not know. Probably we did a lot 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.719 of traveling. You may not know. You might not have noticed. 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.919 It's kind of a small town in the grand scheme 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.520 of things. Twenty people say, yeah, and I'm imagine it's 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.000 in like the hill country with the pines, and since 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.240 it's Lumberton, it's well Yeah, it's that kind of liminal 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.840 space between the coast and Carolina and the Piedmont region. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.800 So there's like piny woods, but there's swamps um and 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.840 it's on the Lumber River lumber because they would transport 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.280 lumber on it. Um. But actually I think that maybe 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.560 they named it there's a there's I'll get into this anyway. Um, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.760 it's a big town for that area, Like what are 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:28.480 you talking um? But you know, from most other places 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.360 you think, oh, it's tiny, and what it's it's I 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.840 grew up in a small town of people people we 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:39.120 would have laughed at, right. So in the late seventeen 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.560 hundred's early eighteen hundreds, it was a big draw for 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.120 a lot of people, both white and free. Families of 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.680 color from Virginia moved to And again it's probably because 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:56.039 of the Lumber River. Um. The Lumber goes through North Carolina, 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.280 crosses the state line into South Carolina because Lumberton is 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.279 like just above this date line, and then becomes the 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.720 little p D River and that's pe e d E 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.880 not p period deep period and then the little p 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.760 D flows into the regular p D and then goes 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.120 down to Georgetown, South Carolina. So that's that sort of 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:20.040 waterway up to get supply that Indigo out lumber out 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:26.960 whatever lumber to build bad stuff. And uh. In Lumberton, 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.720 a high proportion of the population identifies as Lumby Indian. 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.720 And uh, the Lumby Indian that's not really a big 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.359 widely known populations. Who are the Lumbi Indians. Well, you know, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.560 this thing is that they are a recognized Native American 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.560 tribe by both the state of North Carolina and federally, 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.560 but they don't get federal benefits because there's no known 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.080 treaty between the Lumbi and the U. S government, So 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.120 they never dealt with the US governments. And then now 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.640 over time the US government eventually said, okay, we recognize you, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.240 but you are a sovereign nation inside of well, they 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.520 never they were never defeated in a war, never removed 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:07.239 from their land, so there's no treaty established with them. Um. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:11.760 But they're a pretty significant portion of the population. Um 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.680 and uh. They also there's some overlay and bleed in 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:23.320 from like Iroquois in New York came down before settlers arrived. Um. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.120 And then there's like a back and forth and there's 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.720 sort of a beef between the New York Iroquois and 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.920 the faction in North Carolina. That's interesting the New York Iroquois. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.520 I wonder if they had some historic like you know, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:38.120 family lineage that they remember and the language is the same, 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:39.800 and so yeah, that's why I would imagine that it 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.840 must be. Yeah, So it's an interesting You've got this 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:47.040 really fascinating place. During the Civil War, Lumberton had resistance 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:52.480 fighters working against the Confederacy for the Union, and they 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.560 just wanted to like disrupt Confederate staff. So they're like 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.120 they're attacking supply lines and boats going down the lumber 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.960 but also just like holdings, like they went after the elite. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.400 And there was this one gang who was already established 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.000 and like stealing livestock and stuff. That was like their 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:12.160 their gig exactly. And then during the war they went 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.800 political and they really rose up against the white elites 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.120 and it was like poor whites, people of color, free 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.480 or otherwise joined together in this insurgency to take down 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.360 plantations and stuff. It's like Fred Hampton's dreamed of the 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.600 Rainbow Coalition bond. And then they just went like completely 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.520 ham on the power completely completely. So this I'm telling 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.120 you all of this, not just because it's fascinating, but 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.920 to kind of help you understand where we are in Lumberton. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.720 It's this really interesting place. So while it's small and 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.760 it's pretty rural, I would say very rural, but people 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.440 there don't think of Lumberton itself is rural. And they 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.240 got a real strong spirit of defiance completely completely and 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.000 so um it's a little bit more mysterious and interesting 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:04.240 because of the swampy nature. So the Warrens spoiler and 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.920 then reconstruction began, and that's where we find ourselves. So 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:14.160 I want you to imagine it Lumberton, North Carolina, in 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:19.400 eighteen seventy two. Can you smell the reconstruction. It's a 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.960 quiet Sunday morning. Walking down the street, you pass a 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.760 simple wooden building. It's the Methodist church in town. The 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.120 windows are open, you can hear the words of the pastor. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.760 And then now, I don't know what you're not. You're 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.600 not in church. I don't want to ask, you know, 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.680 at this time, I don't think that's a very popular 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.720 thing to not be in church on the Sunday morning. However, 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.080 you hear the pastor announced to the congregation to hymn 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:52.760 they're going to sing. They begin singing. It is absolutely horrible. 0:09:54.000 --> 0:10:01.200 It is unholy, terrifying. I want you to stop. Let's 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.240 listen to some ads. I have to cleanse the palette, 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.640 and then I'm going to tell you exactly what was 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.760 happening inside that little church. Yes, I'm gonna need some explanations. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:33.079 Yeah you are. So. When we left off, you were 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.120 walking down the street in eighteen seventy two in Lumberton, 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.160 North Carolina, cutting Church. I'm on my way. It's a Sunday, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.080 I'm cruising around. People are going, what's he doing out? 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.800 I'm like, what are you doing out? Exactly? Turning around 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.680 on them. You heard Sunday services coming from this Methodist church. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.360 You stopped to listen. I do want to say, on 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.600 a side note, there's a really good chance, since this 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.040 was a Methodist church in the eighteen hundreds, that there 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.640 was no piano, accompaniment or organ or anything. I've been 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.559 trying to figure out if that's the case. Did they 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.920 have musical instruments? I could. It was hard trying to 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.000 figure out if this was a particular I don't know 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:11.320 denomination sect of the Methodist Church UM, but a lot 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.480 of them didn't use instruments for once in my life. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.520 I'm going to try and be historically accurate. Let's let's 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.199 hear it. I don't think I can do it. I'm 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.360 going to go with my default of making things up. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.480 So let's pretend you're walking down and you hear the 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.840 preacher and then you hear a cassio keyboard with the 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:36.640 samba beat startup. You're shocked, Like, once you get over 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:42.360 this anachronistic detail, how is there electricity batteries? Where did 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.280 that keyboard come from? Is it made of wood? What's 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.880 going on here? And why is time traveling? Zarin? Playing it? 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:55.040 A brother gotta eat? Can you imagine like you walk 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.760 by this church in eighteen seventy two Lumberton, and you 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:02.160 look in the window and there's you, blue dreadlocked Zaren, 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.040 like just hammering away at a cassio keyboard to the 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:11.480 and people are terrified. They're just soiling themselves. I can't 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.920 imagine that. I like imagining that, alright, So let's get 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.800 let's work through that deep breath. You hear the singing start, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.080 so amid the quiet tones of the congregants, rises a 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.920 beast and that man's voice is like no other. It 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.320 is loud, it is out of time, it is out 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:36.160 of tune. It's me it very well could be. You 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.960 know what you're hearing is the distinctive non dulcet tones 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:46.920 of William Lincolf, my man, William Lincolf. William Lincolf born 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.240 in Prussia in the early eight hundreds. At some point 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:54.080 he makes his way to North Carolina. How why who knows? 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.319 I'm thinking a boat. I think he flew on a 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.840 Cassio keyboard. He to Cassio keyboard like a surfboard across 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:07.280 the Atlantic. But Zuckerberg just above the water, and he 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.000 had like white face paint on like Zucherberg, and he 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:15.800 was a cyborg. So he gets to North Carolina and 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.000 he takes a young bride works as a tailor. They 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.920 turn out a bunch of kids. That's the customer of 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:28.559 the day. He was super super religious, deeply powerfully religious. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.720 And the way that he expressed that devotion was through 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:36.840 the gift of song. But you said he sings terrible. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.160 so he doesn't care about the gift he's offering the Lord. Now, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.040 all you can say is his way of worshiping is 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:49.000 like vigorous Manus. He sings at an absolute deafening volume, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:55.440 kind of like someone I know else, So everyone else is, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.880 you know, just like normal volume, and he is voice 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:04.320 imodulation to order, like so loud um full throated, like 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.800 he's just all in on it. He sings all the 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:12.640 notes in all the keys, so like there's no discernible tune. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.959 He's just all over the map with this. And this 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.040 is my favorite thing about him. He keeps singing after 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.800 it's so after the song it's over. What does that mean? 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.760 Like he's just making a well, like he's not singing 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:33.920 along with everyone else like this. It reminds me of um. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:39.200 In my my work, people have birthdays, as happens in humanity, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:44.000 and then they're like zoom meetings where people then, you know, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.640 because of the pandemic, people are apart, so they sing 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:50.720 happy birthday to each other on zoom and no one 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.200 is singing at the same time, and it's like this 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:58.160 crazy cacophony. Why no singing at the same time delays 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.720 technologically or men tie, I don't know, just like so 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.400 it's all over the place, And that's kind of how 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.280 I think of LINKA. So that people are singing and 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.400 then they get to the end of the song and 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.160 he's still got about four bars left, so he's just 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:19.960 going bar right no, And like everyone everyone's just sitting 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.040 there silently side eyeing him. So he keeps time for 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:30.000 no tune. No man, you know, he's just so he's 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.800 in his mind. He's he's serving the Lord. This is 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:36.160 the best way he knows how. Don't hide your light 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.840 under a bushel. If he thinks he's bringing him closer 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.800 to God, it's the best he can do. Then hey, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.840 there it is he live laugh, live laugh, lo catterwall 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:55.800 sing like nobody's listening. Are you okay over there? Yes, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.240 we had like a total mind meld there we did. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.880 Um I like live laugh, look Catterwall, that's nice, thank you. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:08.840 It's l apostrophe Catterwall, Catterwall. Uh. But he's he thinks 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.480 that like he can do this, and so should you. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:16.960 Everybody just sing let it out, don't know rules, just vibes, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.680 lift up, herents, make a joyful noise. Preacher, those getting 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:27.120 complaints from who? Everybody? I thought they all say no, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:34.440 just him. Everyone else sings like an absolute angel. I'm 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.240 only here in the one dude's voice overtaking all the 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.560 rest of them. I thought they were all singing. He 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.240 was just the worst. I wish example, No, that would 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:47.640 be amazing. No, it's everyone's singing like peacefully, perfectly, your 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:52.320 typical church singing. And then he he comes like stomping 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.240 in on his like vocal moon boots on everybody. But 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.160 I was down in the Los Angeles, been visiting my 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:00.680 mother and went to Hurt Church and there was a 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.920 woman who was two rows behind me who was doing 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.960 pretty much what you're describing. And I got to watch 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.920 people in real time be like looking around on my 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.760 I forgive her what. We're in church. Don't you think 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:16.240 that like most church congregations or most religious congregations in 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:20.119 which there is singing to be had, there's there's always 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.360 someone depends. I mean, we're also where I grew up, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.399 people wouldn't do that just out of like, you know, 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.119 their own self protection. Where she was like, I don't care, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:34.520 I'm singing what because me and the Lord are together 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.639 right now? And I was like, oh wow. But I 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.200 was into it because she was feeling it. Everyone else 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.920 was like shooting like cold eye stairs and I'm like, judge, 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.760 not a church, yeah, Judge, not anyway exactly. Well. I 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.000 can remember growing up there were kids who would sort 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.000 of just kind of drift in and out of it. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.520 Little kids who didn't weren't worried about peer pressure or anything. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.560 You know, you're three and four year old. I love 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.080 that totally, Like anyone acting up somewhere like where it's 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.159 not hurting anybody anyway. Anyone is fully engaged. Yeah, I 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.720 love full engagement. So the preachers getting complaints, there's a 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:15.240 significant portion of the congregation that finds it absolutely hilarious, 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.119 like they're just cracking up. I would be one of 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.359 those people, and I would be encouraging him. No, go on, 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.119 hey can we get William like a solo on this 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:27.679 next one? Because my spirit I think of when I 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.160 think of what his singing is like, I think of 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.639 that recording of Enrique Iglesias singing at a concert and 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.159 then Mike picked up his actual singing and not the 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.359 prerecorded track that the audience was getting. I don't remember this, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:47.080 Oh okay, search on YouTube Enrique Iglesias live Fail Rhythm Divine, 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.879 and I promise you you will never hear That's well, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.480 first of all, we don't hear that song as much 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.640 as we used to have to. But if you it's 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.639 the best thing. And that's how I imagine link also 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.639 check it out. That's my modern day linkol and my 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:07.120 my idea. Anyway, so some people find it hilarious, there's 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:11.119 a whole other group that finds it so appalling that 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.719 they have to take action. The They convinced the preacher 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.919 to stop singing in the services altogether. The preacher so 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.159 that way lincol can't. Yeah, they're like, guess what if 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:25.160 you don't nobody's singing now? He just he just reads 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.400 the words to the hymn. He's basically reading a psalm, 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.480 and they're They're like, don't nobody sing this. I'm just 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:38.280 going to read it, no joyful noise like Rex Harrison, 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:42.919 my fair Lady talks singing, no none, none. And so 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.600 the congregation, though, they don't like that, because of course 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.720 they want to lift up their hearts right there's they've 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.040 got the spirit, they need the tunes. Um. So the 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.240 singing starts up again, and Lincoln was like, yeah, I'm 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.399 going to aurally assault my fellow man, just ram it 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:03.520 into him. Um. After one really solemn and moving sermon, 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.040 a leading member of the church gets up walks over 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.720 to Link off. Now, luckily I was able to find 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.320 a transcription of their conversation. Oh this is a rare 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.879 from two good thank you from research. Thanks so much. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:22.160 So he walks up study Link. I was like, hey, hey, listen, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:27.480 what the preacher just said was pretty heavy, totally. He's like, oh, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.679 you get it. Cool? Cool, and then Link starts to 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.000 breathe in. No, no, no, no, wait, draw your brakes there, Willie, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.400 what do you mean? He says, well, when you're seeing 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.919 it makes people. And Willie says joyful and bathed in 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.080 the love of Christ, not exactly. The other guy says, 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.920 well what then, well, most of these folks laugh loud 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.640 a lot, Like I said, the preacher's sermon really serious, 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.000 and Willy said, yeah, you know it was. Well Widow 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.679 Martin over there, she's quietly sobbing yikes. As Willie, Oh 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.000 that that totally sucks. Now this is again, word for work, 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:08.480 total transcription. I was like, so, maybe you could go 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.720 ahead and not sing this one, you know, just sit 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.560 it out. And Willie's like, you know what, dude, you 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.000 know I sing for the Lord. And they're just having 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.880 this staring contest. Guys like, well this time. The Lord 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:23.560 wants you to put a cork in it. He just 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.359 told me so. Linka was like, all right, point taken, 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:31.400 doesn't sing on that one. Everyone's overjoyed. They're like singing along. 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.560 They just had this really moving sermon. They just watched 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.280 this conversation happen, and one of them happened to have 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:41.159 a transcription machine that was came with it came with 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.600 the cassio keyboard, and so she's like reading it back 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.720 to the congregation. It was an amazing sight. It sounds 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:49.760 like moving. It was, and it really I don't know 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.159 why we don't have a movie of that yet. But 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.000 so he gets it, he realizes, don't do this, and 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.520 that's going to come in later, so keep that in mind. 0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.840 At one point he's able to be talked out of it. 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.639 A Christmas miracle. Yeah, But the next time lincols like 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:09.640 I'm all in baby starts and after that, the elder 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.680 presiding elder in the church, he's like, guess what, I'm 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:15.119 not preaching anymore. If you're going to do this, you're 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:16.840 gonna make a mess of this. I'm not doing it. 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:23.920 I wouldn't preach. Wow, what would Jesus say? He would say, oh, 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:29.639 so someone hasn't seen Jesus Christ Superstar. Like yeah. They 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.200 gather everybody up and they tell him to dress like 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.120 they're in Jesus Christ Superstar and they he's a tailor. 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:39.720 He makes the outfits for everybody. They so much fringe 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.280 at this point. The so the pastor the church leaders, 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.560 they meet with Lincolf. They call him in and they 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.639 confront him about this, tell him to pipe it down again. 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:51.879 On Monday. They're like, hey, you got to come by 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.280 the church. Could you just stop by, like, you know, 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.600 just we got I got a little something to you know, 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.159 work on with you. And he thinks, oh great, you 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.160 know we can. We're going to build the Easter display. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:08.400 In the the finals for choir trying outs come on Willie. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.480 So he goes down there like you know what pipe down? 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:15.600 Actually pipe off? Turn it off? That was a really 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:20.440 popular phrase. Then, um, you're causing a disturbance. They tell him, 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:25.080 you know, you're ruining the worship for everybody and linkas response, now, 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.040 I do have a direct quote from this, and I'm 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.720 gonna do his errand and I quote, I will worship 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.480 my God and that as part of my worship. It 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:35.720 is my duty to sing. Don't get in the way 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:41.199 of the man's duty. So, um, I really want to 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.280 stop for one second and wonder what his wife and 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.920 kids made of this. Oh, he's married. I was always 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:51.000 pictured No, but I was picturing him always is like 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.080 not like a confirmed bachelor. But I mean like the 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.560 guy in town who's like he's never going to be married. 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.600 Well that's the behavior of like this, like loose cannon. 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.360 But he's got a wife and a bunch of kids. 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.520 So imagine what is the wife doing. Dude, I don't know, 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:07.800 but I know what the kids are doing. Because my 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:12.439 mother can't sing, is she My mom says that when 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:14.880 my brother and I were little, and she would try 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.240 and sing us like bedtime songs or like you know, 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:22.720 lullaby we're like the songs for the sleep, they're called lullabyes. Guys, 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.320 um we my brother she has she's so tone deaf, 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:32.960 and my brother and I would say, please stop. Tender 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.879 tender moment when your children look up to you and say, mommy, 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.120 please stop singing. Put to their little hands on your 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:44.080 mouth to close it. Mother. I don't. I don't have 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.520 any memory of that. But also it's like super young apparently. 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:53.439 Um So I apologize to her for however, and I 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.280 was like, well, you know that's why I stopped singing 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:59.800 to you. Um yeah, the kids? Where's the wife? Deaf? 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.520 Where the kids? Were they all bad singers? Were they 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.760 proud of his love of God? You know? I would 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.440 imagine that they devote What if they all just had 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.440 like they were absolute songbirds, like they just had beautiful voices, 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.280