1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Has no Dead Champ money. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 3: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: I am Dan Hansis. I have heroes here, Greg Rosenthal 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: and Mark Sessler. And it is the second day of 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: the new league year. And kudos to us or finally 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: cutting through all the red tape and like, don't tell 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: me the league year starting Wednesday is this big important 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: entre the whole weeks. 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 4: It's the beginning of the week and now here later 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 4: in the week. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: So he took Wednesday off and now we have a 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: much clearer picture of everything. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Huzza. I mean to me, there is no larger force farce, 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: I should say, in all of pro sports than the 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: NFL calendar in March. It's like, none of it. It's 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: it's like, don't try to tell me that anything starts 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: at a certain time. I won't buy it because we 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: were It's day two of what we've been grinding since 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Sunday mid afternoon. 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 5: If I Heeart's not going to give us any credit. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 5: At least Dan did right to start off the show. 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Nailed it, nailed it. We're good at that. 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: This is yes, really, in reality, the fourth day of 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: the league year. 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: Don't listen to them, listen to us. 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: And that means many many of the big players that 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: were going into free agency looking for homes or looking 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: to stay with their team, just looking to do business 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: have done that business. 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: In fact, GREGI of your top one oh one, how 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: many like. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: Who's the what number is the highest ranking player left? 34 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: Well, Tyron Smith has like a four next to his name, 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: But on the original, the original, yeah, he would have 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: been I think fourteen, And he also would have been 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 5: the only player on the original list of even the 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: top twenty that's unaccounted for, the only one. And then yeah, 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: so one O the Kendall Fuller, who I apparently valued 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: a lot higher than NFL teams, actually just came off 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 5: the board. He would have been thirteenth on the list 42 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 5: that when you know, kind of final on Monday, as 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 5: the as the negotiating period started, and he just went 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 5: off the board. To the Dolphins, who have actually made 45 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 5: it quietly a bunch of nice little moves. 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: We're still working on our list, and I think there's yeah, 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot of question. No, it's no, it's it's it's 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: more like you know, we've we exhibit patients, what the 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: list will come when we feel it's time for it 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: to show up. I mean, what are we doing that 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: houses out of the horses side of the barn. 52 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: It's on the highwayax Mark, I did not tell you 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: that we did release it. Oh well, that's good, okay, 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: but load to hear that it's on the internet. Okay, 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: but it's we's why was I not brought into that process? 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: We've been because it was top secret. We dropped it 57 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: as an easter egg on the internet. 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 5: It was actually if you could find the url right 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 5: put out on the company, we could read it. That 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 5: company was recently bought by European investors and they told 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: everyone you know that there. 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: What I do love is we published it on dead 63 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: Spin and it was immediately around medic That's not our fault. 64 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: I love the Greg underneath the layers of you know, 65 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: deciding whether or not this was a real project. Greg 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: is a little annoyed that we continue to pump up 67 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: a little bit our list just a little time. You 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: never know. 69 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 5: I love it because it's showing how tough it is 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 5: to make that list. 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Where is your listen? 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: It's always surprising what actually annoys Greg like talking about 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: the pickstandings, or that football that the charity gave me 74 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: football from, or for some reason the free agency two thirteen. 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: That's just you could tell just a little bit of agitation. 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Why is that? Greg? Why is it certain thing? And 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: then other things. 78 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: It's like, ah, nothing really matter. 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 5: The only thing that's bothering me about this is that 80 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 5: you actually believe what you just said. 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: I do. 82 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: I believe one hundred percent like Rogers. I believe everything 83 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: I say and I believe it to be correct. 84 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: You just don't believe anything anyone else says, at least 85 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 5: from like a large sort of organizational or societal stand. 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't now, I don't know what you're talking about. 87 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: We are going to be getting deep into a look 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: back and in terms of what has happened this week, 89 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: and also of course looking ahead to what's still to come, 90 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: with the great Bill Barnwell, who is a great person 91 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: to talk to this. 92 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: Time or year, really any time of year, but this 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: time of year especially. 94 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: So that's coming up a little bit later, but first, 95 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: let's get caught up on the news since we last 96 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: spoke with you. Hey, someone's going to ask you, so 97 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: have you had the little ass boy conversation with Max. 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, not of son. He's a big ass boys. 99 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: What he is? 100 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 5: You gota? 101 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: I did not even connect the dots on that. Gardner 102 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: Menshew signs with the Las Vegas Raiders and do we 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: have that original sound from inside the NFL the for 104 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: context that Minshew in a game last year was repeatedly 105 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: belittled by Crosby on the field for his stature, to 106 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: the point where you cut to Minshew in the second 107 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: half and he's like, I'm not that small, maybe for 108 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: according to the football world, but. 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: Boy, well that boy, dude nice Crosby is so that 110 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: I'm angry. 111 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Burke. 112 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 6: He just like the thing is like, he's not that. 113 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: I know, right, he just calls he keeps calling. 114 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 1: Everybody low lass boy, little ass boy. 115 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 7: Right. 116 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a little out here, but. 117 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: Not always, you know. 118 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: Gardner Minshew, the way he says it, he's really got 119 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 5: a McConaughey vibe to him. That's I gotta say, I 120 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 5: I think that's kind of what you want out of 121 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 5: your quarterback. He could be pointing out John Candy in 122 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: the in the crowd right before he goes and has 123 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 5: a game winning Super Bowl. 124 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: Well, maybe that'll find out with any gardner Minshew, Joe Montana, Parafe. 125 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 6: If he beats out Aiden O'Connell, maybe that'll happen. 126 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: He's still perfect, perfect landing spot for Minshew. Let's see 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: if he can squeeze some more starts out of this. 128 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: All right, let's start though in Tennessee, where a surprise 129 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: on Wednesday the Calvin Ridley we had talked about in 130 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: our previous show, and in general, all the arrows seem 131 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: to be pointing to him returning to Jacksonville and circumventing 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: that the trade terms with Atlanta to avoid giving up 133 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: a second round pick, that he would just sign with 134 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: the Jags. 135 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Who we spent last year with. 136 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: On the first day of the league year, No, all 137 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 3: that erroneous, Ridley signs a four year, ninety two million 138 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: dollar contract with the Titans that includes fifty million guaranteed. 139 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: He's now, in terms of. 140 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: Average value of salary at that position, a top ten, 141 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: which really jumps out to me. Mark is a little 142 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: rich for my blood with Calvin Ridley, a guy that's 143 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: twenty nine years old. He's got a suspension on the ledger. 144 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: He faded a little bit last year, was a little 145 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 3: hot and cold in general, and you're paying him as 146 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: a number one like that once again, the Dalton scale 147 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: of wide receivers. That is an off season episode that 148 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: is screaming at us. Where would Ridley fall? I think 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: on the other side of that, So let's talk about it, 150 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: because he's not being that. 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: That these wide receiver deals for a number of years 152 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: in a row have been have been wild. I I 153 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: would say this though about the Titans in general. I 154 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: don't know if Calvin Ridley is I'm with you. I 155 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: think the money is more than the man in this situation. 156 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: But this was a team that desperately needed to read 157 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: the man well the player the player. Okay, okay, that's 158 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know him personally, so that 159 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: that was out of bounds by me and I. 160 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: Not since you took down the entire insider culture have 161 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: I thought that you really made such a personal attack 162 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: more on that. 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: That was only a couple of days ago. But now 164 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: you add Ridley to DeAndre Hopkins, Traylon Burk's Nick Westprookakina, 165 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: It's like Will Levis is coming out of this as 166 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: somewhat of a winner because a they didn't Can you 167 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: say those again. Say those names again, Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, 168 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Traylon Burks, Nick West, Prookakina. It's not that they couldn't 169 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: go draft someone else too, It's just that I'm just 170 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: saying they They were bottom of the barrel, one of 171 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the worst wide receiver groups in the league at times 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: last year. And it it's like, if Hopkins can still play, 173 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't hate Ridley and Hopkins as a duo. They 174 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: added Tony Pollard with Cushion Berry. It's like they are 175 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: at least active. They needed to do, They needed to 176 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: take steps, and they're taking steps. 177 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 5: It was one of the only contracts this offseason that 178 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 5: when they reported, I was like, wow, I did not 179 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 5: expect him to be that far above the rest of 180 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: the class of receivers that even got to free agency. 181 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: Markus Brown, for instance, hasn't even signed yet though, so 182 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 5: we'll see what he gets, but it's not going to 183 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: be anything close to this. When it was fifty million 184 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 5: dollars guaranteed. So you mentioned the average contract, I think 185 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 5: that actually does favors to the Titans. So unless the 186 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: reporting is extremely misleading, it's fifty million dollars guaranteed, which 187 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 5: I would assume is basically over the first two years 188 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 5: of his contract, so that's more like twenty five. 189 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: It is actually backloaded. 190 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: I don't think he gets to that third year anyways, 191 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 5: And that guaranteed money would be second among all wide receivers, 192 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 5: only behind Tyreek Hill. 193 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Now the cap goes up. 194 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: Our friend Justin Graver and Titans fans are in their 195 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: feelings of people criticizing this move immediately pointed out off 196 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 5: a tweet I wrote of like, well that the percentage 197 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: of the cap is a lot less, and it's you know, 198 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 5: it's a lot if you average out what AJ Brown's 199 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 5: contract actually would have been now like that, that's a 200 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 5: bigger percentage of the cap from when it was signed. 201 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: It's like, and all these Titans fans who are all 202 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 5: comparing it, and it's like, yeah, this is gonna look 203 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: like a bargain when I signs and Higgins signs and 204 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: and all these top players, and my thing is like, yeah, 205 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 5: but really is not anywhere close to the category of 206 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 5: those players. 207 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 6: That that's our point. That's like, yeah, of course AJ 208 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 6: Brown takes. 209 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 5: Up a bigger percentage of the cap, although he got 210 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 5: less guaranteed money, which again is a little crazy. Ridley's 211 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: just like a good player that's getting paid as a 212 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: great player, which is how teams historically have gotten into 213 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: trouble in free agency. 214 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: And he's not. 215 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: He's not a young player anymore either. He's twenty nine. 216 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: He's a little inconsistent. 217 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: He's like an older version with a little more, you know, 218 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: background than Christian Kirk. Like remember a few years ago 219 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: when everybody was getting nineteen millionaire at the time, and 220 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: that was that and it did so like you can 221 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: look at it that way is and if he listened, 222 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: if he has one hundred catches next year and thirteen 223 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: hundred yards and eight touchdowns, that's fine. 224 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: But you need him to be that guy. 225 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: And he hasn't really, other than very early in his career, 226 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: been on a trajectory. 227 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: As like a star slash superstar player. But I don't 228 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to. I don't want to. 229 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: So many guess on the surface. 230 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: So you're saying, are the Titans, at least on paper 231 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: better than they were four days ago? 232 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: I think so? Is Will Levis the guy? 233 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: I have some doubts about that too, But they're at 234 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: least giving him a chance and a corps around him. 235 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: And we'll see what happened. 236 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: I do wonder if they had to pay what they paid, 237 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: because along with the Jaguars, the Patriots were talked about 238 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: is looking after Ridley as well. There's maybe some sort 239 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: of a bidding war behind the scenes where you're having 240 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: to pay this money. Now. 241 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to get all Aaron Rodgers here, but 242 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: I do have a conspiracy on all this go ahead 243 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 5: that no one's been reporting out there so or that 244 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: you heard. 245 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: From no one's reporting yousiracy theories. No, it's just in 246 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: my head. 247 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 5: Yes, at no point did we ever hear the Titans 248 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 5: were in the mix. 249 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: It was a little strange. 250 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: It was like hardcore seventeen different inside Patriots, Patriots, Patriots, Jaguars, Jaguars, 251 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 5: blah blah. 252 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: He wants to see with the Jaguars. 253 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: My conspiracy theory is he maybe had a little bit 254 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: of a wink wink not not agreement with the Jaguars 255 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: that he wasn't going to sign until after that Wednesday 256 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: to help them with the draft picks in general. But 257 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 5: all along the Titans had this offer there and they 258 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 5: were probably the favorite. And again he's just doing the 259 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 5: Jaguars a favor by basically waiting till Wednesday and then 260 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 5: they get the better draft pick. I don't believe that 261 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 5: they just suddenly came into the mix in the last 262 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 5: second and then blew everyone. 263 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 6: Out of the water with a with a huge offer. 264 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: And Jacksonville fans, and this is to Calvin Ridley's credit, 265 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 5: are mad. Even though they weren't too happy with him 266 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 5: during the year when he ran a lot of weird 267 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: routes and had a lot of drops, the Jaguars did 268 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 5: really want him and the only reason that they couldn't 269 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 5: keep was because they had to use the tag on 270 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 5: Josh Allen, which they should have signed him to a 271 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 5: long term deal before. 272 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: So little but that that also, that seems very plausible. 273 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: But that also tells you that even more of a 274 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: fraudulent entity. Is this like legal tamp Oh yeah, that's 275 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: part because it's like this stuff I've been going on 276 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: long before, you know, the legal tampering window opened so wide. 277 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 5: Please take you had a wild free agent spears. But 278 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 5: I'll put a pin in that we can talk about 279 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: that with Bill. 280 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 281 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if we mentioned Mason Rudolph also signed 282 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: with the team, so he will back up will Levis 283 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: and like Garden Minshew, I think that's a good spot 284 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: for Rudolph because I think there's an opportunity to play 285 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 3: there potential. 286 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 6: It's on the side of the league before those last 287 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 6: couple of starts. 288 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: Isn't it ironic that when he did close the season 289 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: well or at least better than Kenny Pickett and finally 290 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: played at a pretty solid level for the Steelers and 291 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: then they get rid of them finally, Like I. 292 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: Am happy to see him not on the Steelers. 293 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm certainly not like vouching for him staying 294 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, but just the way where it felt like 295 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 3: he was on the team for fourteen years and did 296 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: nothing right then finally did a little bit of something. 297 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: They're like now young he appeared in four games. 298 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 5: If it had qualified, he would have been third in 299 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 5: the NFL in QBR it will stop long be forgotten. 300 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Do we really need that statute make Mason Rudolph last time? 301 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 5: And I had to check this on Pro Football Reference 302 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: right now just to make sure he wasn't good even 303 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 5: though it was only two months ago. No that Mason 304 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: Rudolph started a playoff game in the year twenty twenty 305 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: four he was in the the NFL started the playoffs, 306 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 5: all the team's got to choose their starting quarter Mason 307 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 5: Rudolph was one of those quarterbacks. 308 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: Put it this way, one of the more low wattage playoffs. 309 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: I can't even Rudolph throwing for nine hundred and forty 310 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: five yards, five touchdowns and two picks in his final 311 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: four games has a real hearty whiff of Desmond Rinder's 312 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: last four games in Atlanta and people being. 313 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: Like, hey, he's pretty good. He's pretty good. 314 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: Actually, speaking of Desmond Rinner, the former Falcons starting quarterback 315 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: is on the mood move. He was traded. How about this, 316 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 3: Rondell Moore upon a second round pick, I believe, once 317 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,359 Speaker 3: upon a time. 318 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. 319 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: So the Cardinals send Rondell Moore, their former second round pick, 320 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: to the Falcons for Ritter So a one for one swap. 321 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: Love these It's fun, you know, it's like old school 322 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: player for player. So the Cards get a new backup 323 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: and the Falcons at another wide receiver. 324 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: I think the Falcons and I know they're going to 325 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: be like the sexy NFC South pick, and they should 326 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: be like, this is another team that has like recrafted 327 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: their offense from the couple of offseasons, Like you have 328 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Drake London, Darnell Mooney, I like him as in your 329 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver group, Rondel Moore, Cadarl Hodge, who's more helpful 330 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: than I think people realize. Then maybe you've got Kyle 331 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Pitts finally emerging b John Robinson like and Kirk Cousins like. 332 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: This offense on paper looks dangerous by the way. 333 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm so fantasy drafts aren't for months, but I am 334 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: one of the many, many thousands who will be back 335 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: in on Kyle Pitts. 336 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: But it feels like a shaky fantasy situation the Falcons general, 337 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: because who's I'm not going to a lot of people 338 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: to like. 339 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: I was in on him in year one and year two, 340 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: I took year three off and I'm all the way 341 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: back in. 342 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: Then we know what happens with you. Then he doesn't perform, 343 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: and then you write him off as a person as 344 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: a man. 345 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 5: I'm sort of in on this, Like Kyle Pitts says, 346 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: this ide don't cost me. That is not a reality 347 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: that like if Kyle Pitts was who we thought Kyle 348 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: Pitts was, Like I think we would know more by now. 349 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 5: I don't think he's as explosive as as he looked 350 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 5: through some injuries, and he had some injuries. It's like 351 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: every but I mean everything on Arthur Smith and Ritter 352 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 5: I think is a little too simple. It's pretty rare 353 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 5: that you have a challenge trade these. These are both 354 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: players that were a little disappointing I think to their 355 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 5: their team. 356 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Ritter, I mean more than a little. But he was 357 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: a third round pick. 358 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 5: Like if he turns into a decent backup quarterback, like 359 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: that's what you kind of expect that of a third 360 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 5: round pick. His coach fire more more can make people miss. 361 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 5: He is now the third wide receiver on the Falcons 362 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 5: roster that has caught a pass in the NFL in 363 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: the last three years. 364 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 6: So like they they only had two. 365 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: They only had one before Darnell Mooney and then they 366 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 5: had two and now they have three. 367 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: So they needed to progress. Yes, let's take a break 368 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: and then we will continue onward. Right, the Chargers making moves, 369 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: they say goodbye, and this one. You know, as a team, 370 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: I follow a team that needs wide receiver help and 371 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: maybe a playmaker that could stretch the defense. Mike Williams 372 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: is on the market. The Chargers release Williams. That Bolts 373 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: pushed a lot of pain into this offseason with some 374 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: restructures last year, and now they have to pay the bill. 375 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: And that's why Mike Williams is no longer on the team. 376 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: And that comes after he signed a three year, sixty 377 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: million contract, sixty million dollars contract after twenty twenty one. 378 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: He was having an awesome start to last season before 379 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: he tore his ACL And of course, Mark injuries and 380 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Mike Williams, they are no strangers. So any team that 381 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: does sign up, I'm very curious to see what his 382 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: market is. I think there'll be a lot of teams 383 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: interested in him, but how much money he gets considering 384 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: his injury history. But he's still pretty young guy too. 385 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: I think he's sneaky young. Yeah, but maybe his body 386 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: sneaky old will be an interesting test in free agent. 387 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is like he's a juicy free agent wide 388 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: out sitting out there. But it is like how many 389 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: games you're gonna get ot him year after year? And 390 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: I know this team's gonna look so different. But when 391 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Mike Williams was not on the field for the Chargers, 392 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: during this, justin Herbert era, they looked a lot different, 393 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: Like I think he certainly made defenses have to pay 394 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: attention to him. Now they're down to Keenan Allen, Josh Palmer, 395 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: and Quentin Johnson. I think Quentin Johnson's got a lot 396 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: of pressure on him to be what they thought he 397 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: could be. 398 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: At this point, I think like ARPA is kind of 399 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: stripping it down a little bit and he's going to 400 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 3: be this year. You know, we'll see what happens this year. 401 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: But this I think this whole thing is starting to 402 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: be built, you know, stripped down to build back up. 403 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: But Gus Edwards, what do they call it? A controlled rebuild? 404 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Is that what they call him? Something like that? I mean, 405 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: you could call it makes sense whatever you want. 406 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: No, I'm saying I feel like that's a term that's 407 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 4: out there. 408 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: I am not sure because some of the reporting around 409 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 5: this right when it happened was they actually would maybe 410 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 5: try to get him back at a lower price, and 411 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 5: so they also renegotiated a deal for Khalil Mack. 412 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: To keep them. And then there's these and Joey Bosa 413 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: is that has that happened? Well, they're working on his 414 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: he's restructuring his deal too. He's a controlled But I 415 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: know that Greg was was working behind the scenes because 416 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: yesterday when we were deciding, like is there enough to 417 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: do a show or Greg kept being like, I think 418 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: there's gonna be big Chargers moves. I'm like, eight minutes later, 419 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure some big Chargers moves are coming in there. 420 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: At all. 421 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 5: It was obvious they had like the four. Everyone was 422 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: reporting that for weeks. That's something had to have. But 423 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 5: it just was like, you broke that BOSA news. To me, 424 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 5: I gotta admit is here. Yeah, well that he restructured 425 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 5: it to stay, So what do you mean you have 426 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 5: to admit that's what I do? I operate in the 427 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 5: news saying I have to admit that I was a 428 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 5: little off the grid on the way I ate a 429 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 5: little lunch. 430 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: I missed that. 431 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 3: You get do you really get beat on aggregating news, 432 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: like when you're not actually a reporter, you're saying he 433 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: beats you on that. 434 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he beat I'm saying I entered the 435 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: show that I actually was productive nothing with Mark. I'm 436 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: saying the insider Mark Sessler, I. 437 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: Entered the show without a key bit of information related 438 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 5: unlike something, and I don't feel good about it. 439 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: I guess who was there for you? 440 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 5: I'm surprised, Mark, I mean who was there for the 441 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 5: freaking listeners of the Around the NFL podcast that I'm 442 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 5: actually very surprised by that that Bosa's staying considering how 443 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 5: little he's played. But Mike Williams, would you rather have 444 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: him or Calvin Ridley? 445 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, Ridley if they're healthy, Mike Williams, if they're healthy, 446 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: Mike Williams. 447 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: I put Mike Williams is number twelve now in the 448 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 5: new one on one, which is confusing because half the 449 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 5: people about this, it's like I'm put ranking against people 450 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 5: that are already signed. 451 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 6: But to me, he's never an ex receiver, a true 452 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 6: difference maker. 453 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: When he's out there coming off an a cl he 454 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: might have to sign a prove it deal. But let's 455 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 3: say he gets a Fugeesi deals. Let's say you know, 456 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: it's a three year deal or four years, but it's 457 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: really two year deal. So two for fifty for Ridley 458 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: or two for thirty five for Mike Williams. 459 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: Give me Mike Williams. 460 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, And if I had to guess I'm gonna 461 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 5: go one for fourteen is like I think so too, 462 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: something like I'd be but you, Joe d I would 463 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 5: be all over that, especially if you're a team in 464 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 5: a win now window. 465 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: You take a check. We have prediction it's coming up later, 466 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: I believe in the show with Bill Barnwell and I 467 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: have a prediction of tied to Mike Williams. Great, okay, 468 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: so we'll just move on. So if you're listening, just 469 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: fast forward to this. 470 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, Joe Flacco got a job. We were 471 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: just talking about Joe Flacco last show. I was trying 472 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: to wrap my head around why you would ever sign 473 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: Jameis Winston in general, but to sign him to replace 474 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco, who is one of the great stories of 475 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: the NFL season as Deshaun Watson's backup took the Browns 476 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: to the playoffs. 477 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: The brown say bye bye. 478 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: So Flacco needs a job and he lands with the 479 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: Cults a one year, eight point seven million dollar contract. 480 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: How much of that all right in four point five 481 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: is guaranteed? According to Schefty and a good listen A 482 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: nice landing spot for Flacco. He is backing up a 483 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: second year quarterback who is a top five draft pick. 484 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 3: So unless Anthony Richardson gets injured again, Joe's not going 485 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: to see the field. I kind of want to see 486 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: Joe take the field again, but I also want to 487 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: see Anthony Richardson stay on the field this year. So 488 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: if anybody was like invested in the arc of this 489 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco end of his career renaissance, this could end 490 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: up be something that puts them in mothballs. 491 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 4: But good for him. He's in the league and he's 492 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 4: still making millions of dollars. 493 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 5: I just like that Anthony Richardson is a Shane Stiken quarterback, 494 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 5: and Joe Flacco is a Shane Stiken quarterback, and Gardner 495 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: Minshew is a Shine Steaken quarterback. 496 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 6: Like, get you a coach that could do both. 497 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 5: It's like, okay, let's just get the guy that's exactly 498 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: the same as the backup. No, like we've seen Shane 499 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 5: Stike and work it with Nick Foles to the tune 500 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: of one of the greatest Super Bowl performances of all time. 501 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 5: He was on the staff somewhere, wasn't he. 502 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Flaco will be the starter though. 503 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 5: During some of the off season, while Richardson recovers from 504 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 5: a torn aco and yeah, you would think he probably 505 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 5: will end up taking some snaps this year just because Richardson, 506 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 5: you know, had multiple injuries in those. 507 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Well and Richardson had concussion issues. And it's like the 508 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: way that he plays, you just have to wonder, like 509 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: it's kind of a wild man in the in that 510 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: month that he played, it really was. It's so important 511 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: to have backup. Yeah, I think we could see Flacco, 512 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: I'd say from the Browns perspective, And I mentioned the 513 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: other day, like they're operating in fear like this, it 514 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: would it was. It was too much of a distraction 515 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: to have, like a fan favored to merge behind the 516 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: quarterback who's the worst free agent. 517 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't about his base salary is basically the same 518 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 5: as Winston got a little. 519 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: He was too popular and like, I don't I think 520 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: that's just another chapter in a team stuck in a 521 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: very dark situation at under center. 522 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: They might say, they might say that Flacco is potentially 523 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: a fluco If you ask them why they did it, 524 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: they'd say, yeah. 525 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: Winston, it's not it's not like you you have an 526 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: absolute I know Greg is hired than jameis Winston than some, 527 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: but it's like, right, Jameis Winston is about as hot 528 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: and cold as it gets. 529 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: Right, but his play was at such a high level 530 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: right that they say maybe more of a fluco. 531 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: I know, but it's it's like, I know where you're going. 532 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: I think, I think what you're bit of a story is. 533 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 5: Dans seven, forty fifth ranked bit Flaco Fluco over the 534 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: last ten years is having quite a renaisson. 535 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: It is. 536 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to try to do the bit and Mark 537 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: keeps on debating me. 538 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: I know, but it's like whenever, whenever, whenever we go 539 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: down Jets Avenue and you go, you go, you spin 540 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: the yarn about how everyone's against the Jets, and it's 541 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: always constant jokes and get like, this is my this 542 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: is my so called right and this is what I 543 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: liked about my team last week and they got rid 544 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: of it. 545 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 5: But what he's saying, though, is like he got that 546 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: comeback player of the year a war ahead. 547 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: He deserved it. But he could be a fluco. It 548 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: could be a bit of a pluco. I mean, I 549 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: get it. Am I supposed to find it as funny 550 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: as the two of you at the moment, I mean, 551 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: it's the apex of comedy. 552 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner his homecoming with the Seahawks was brief after 553 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: one season. And we have a middle school watching us 554 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: right now, so played at a high level. I just 555 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: don't look outside the fish pay. 556 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: I can't help it. And they're all taking photos and stuff. 557 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: They're outside the windows. He goes to that place. 558 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 3: Washington Man, the commander's been active, created terms with Bobby Wagner, 559 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: formerly the Seahawks and before that the Rams, and before 560 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: that the Seahawks on a one year deal, six million 561 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: guaranteed money worth up to eight and a half. So 562 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 3: they go a veteran hammer in the middle of that defense. 563 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: And Greg dare I say, at the risk of offending you, 564 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer, I. 565 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 5: Think that's a safe one. You're not gonna defend me 566 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 5: on that one. 567 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: Phew, all right, other news anything on that nice solid signing. 568 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn has added a lot. They've added a lot 569 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: of players to a defense that's gonna look. 570 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 5: For Their price is different, and I mean they weren't. 571 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: They aren't making long term commitments with most of their players. 572 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 5: They've been as active as any team. I kind of 573 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 5: like that. It forty nine Ers fans have pointed out 574 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 5: it's a little similar to what the forty nine ers 575 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 5: did when Shana Hammett showed up there. Just like he's 576 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 5: the base level with a bunch of professionals for a 577 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: year or two while you start figuring out who are 578 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 5: the core guys. 579 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: The Lines announced four year contract extensions for Jim Brad 580 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. 581 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: That's a no brainer. 582 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: And finally before we take a break, and then we're 583 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: gonna welcome in Bill Barnwell. 584 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: I've got controlled fury. Thank you. 585 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: Dan kirk Cousins was officially introduced as the quarterback of 586 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons, and he looking sharp in his suit 587 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: in the Falcons call. 588 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: I feel like we all slept on a couple of things. 589 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: You know, you had. 590 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: Florio getting into it with people in the media because 591 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 3: he had a source that said that Kirk was doing 592 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: some real estate shopping in Atlanta. But he also what 593 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: I read after the signing, I didn't know this. I 594 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: guess this is probably out there too, that his wife's 595 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: from there. Yeah, we got married. There was born there podcast. 596 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: I maybe missed that show, or maybe I wasn't listening 597 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: to There are a lot of a lot of tea 598 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: leaves there, and he went there. And here's Kirk Cousins 599 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: talking about why he decided to move on from Minnesota. 600 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 7: In Minnesota, it was trending over the last couple off 601 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 7: seasons to be in somewhat year to year, and as 602 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 7: we talked with Atlanta, it felt like this was a 603 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 7: place where, you know, if I play at the level 604 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 7: I expect to play, that I can retire a Falcon 605 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 7: And that was something that really excited me. And that's 606 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 7: certainly the goal. 607 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: Kirk has also been number eight, I believe his whole career. 608 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: That's Kyle Pitts's number. Here's a fun little waka waka 609 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: conversation about that. 610 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 7: He was funny about it. I said, I'll write a 611 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 7: check whatever, you know, foundation what. I'm not going to 612 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 7: let you just give me the number. I want to 613 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 7: make it worth your while. But then I make a 614 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 7: donation whatever needs to be. And he said, I just want, 615 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 7: you know, targets every game. You know, he said he 616 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 7: was joking. You know, he kind of winked, so I 617 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 7: joke at them. I said, good answer, good answers. 618 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: He winked, he winked, I'm telling you, Kyle Pitts, there 619 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 3: was no joke about that. He's like, you can throw 620 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: it straight right, you could hit in the chest with passes. 621 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: I love you. 622 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: I will give you anything, including the shirt off my back. 623 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: They're gonna say, Kirk Cousins looking sharp in that, and that's. 624 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: Does look good. 625 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 5: I think you gotta The Falcons have really leaned into 626 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 5: the whole chains thing, and it's like, I think you 627 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: gotta leave that in Minnesota and come up with your 628 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 5: own new new stuff. If I'm if I'm the Vikings scene, 629 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: he's bringing the Kirk co Chains things here. It's like 630 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 5: that was our thing. Come up with something new. He 631 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 5: did drop a little bit of news though, though, too, 632 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: which has been supported by reporting that the Vikings really 633 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 5: weren't committing to him long term, in the same way 634 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 5: that the. 635 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: Fact that there was a even within these negotiations. 636 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they were offering him good money, but 637 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 5: after the first year it maybe was gonna be a 638 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 5: little year to year and the Falcons were gonna make 639 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 5: it two plus. You know, they're really committing two and 640 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 5: a half, really three years probably to Kirk. 641 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: It does me wondering, like Kevin O'Connell, who on multiple 642 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: occasions came out very strongly saying we believe Kirk Cousins 643 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: should be our quarterback. I came here because of him. 644 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: We're working hard to get him back here. And then 645 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: in the end, like all all that's true is the money. 646 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: They weren't Well they yeah not. 647 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 5: I mean, like like Kevin O'Connell that I think that 648 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: is being pointed out that it's QUESSI. 649 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's that's I don't know, like if you're 650 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, and I know we're big on Sam Donald, 651 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: but it's like you're you have a challenge a quarterback? Now? 652 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: Is that a royal? Are you? Guys? In? Though I 653 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: don't hate the landing spot for Sam Donald, but I 654 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: think you're talking about someone who's a you know, little 655 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: team of aten vibes do No. 656 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 5: They save it for Bill, who's been listening to this 657 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 5: entire segment and tells me over text that he's actually 658 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 5: talking over our points making. 659 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: All right, so let's take a break because that sounds saucy. 660 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: He might come he might come on mad. We might 661 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: have said something out offended Bill, And now we're gonna 662 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: find that podcasting I hope. So all right, we'll be uh, 663 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: we'll take a break. We'll be right back. 664 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: Our next guest. 665 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: Really at this point, he's no introduction, but I'm gonna 666 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: give it to you anyway. ESPN star, podcaster, expert, analyst, 667 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: future general manager. I see it as possibility if he 668 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: wants that path, Bill Barnwell, Bill, what you could do it? 669 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: Future? I'm very skeptical. Uh, there are a lot of 670 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: people I would put ahead of me on the future 671 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: general manager list, including several of the people who was 672 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: the show. 673 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: Wow, several several, not all. I want to i's a 674 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: gm GM on your team. 675 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: I want you to look in the New York night 676 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: and say, was it me? 677 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: Oh? I'll be thinking about this for probably months, but 678 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: no idea what you did? Mark psych just now. 679 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 5: He is uh, he is a TV star. He's actually 680 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 5: between Sports Center hits right now. Hell ya insider information 681 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 5: and you see him on around the Horn more now 682 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 5: they're they're using him there since I was out on 683 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: the town like in the afternoon a couple of weeks ago, 684 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 5: and as Mark Sessler oft names well, no, just like 685 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: I up up on the television, you know, for all 686 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 5: the place to see was Bill Barnwell like chopping it up, 687 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: but of course no sound and then they don't put 688 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 5: the closed captions, so that's a that's a problem. 689 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: I spoke to management about that. 690 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: I I I try to be so eloquent and so 691 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: overly verbose or so underleaverbos. Maybe that you can read 692 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: my lips even if you're. 693 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: Not as service to the to the viewer. 694 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: You did you anything in our news segment that you 695 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: jumped on and you're getting set up that offended you. 696 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: We seem to be getting yeah, yeah, yes. 697 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, multiple things. 698 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Wait or what else? No, I would I. 699 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: Would have just watched the show. That would have been 700 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: frankly my dream of you just be to watch the 701 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 2: show from from behind the door, not have to come 702 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: up with original thoughts and just be like, yeah, I contributed. 703 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: I was a part of that show. I just never 704 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: got I was like, you know, the guy at the 705 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: All Star Game, we never got to play still an 706 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: All Star just because I've been got on the field 707 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: does not matter any things I want. 708 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: To ask you, Yeah, go ahead, let's get going. 709 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: Number one, the idea that Kirk Cousins needs to leave 710 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: the Kirko chains in Minneapolis, not saying you're wrong necessarily. 711 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: But it's not like Kirk left you like that in Washington, 712 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: like he brought that to Minnesota. And I think as 713 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: someone who does not have a lot of bits, like 714 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: Kirk has like two or three things. And that's it. 715 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: The things you know about Kirk Cousins the chains, we 716 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: know you like that, and that he does not know 717 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: how to grow food. Those three things he has to 718 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: bring from stop to stop because he doesn't have anything else. 719 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: That's true. 720 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: That's like the you don't abandon the bits, yeah, like 721 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 3: the like the Dad certain dad bits like if you 722 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: leave your keys behind and then Dad's like, hey, you're 723 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: not going to get too far without these, like he 724 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: needs to have, you know, some of his greatest. 725 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: Maybe it's the fact that social media giving me a 726 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 5: shirt list Kirko chains this morning with the caption woke 727 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 5: up Drippin'. It's just like, okay, well, these social media 728 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 5: handles need to so I was last year, and to 729 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 5: Kirk's credit, he pointed out, the chains aren't going to 730 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 5: be so cute if we're not winning winning games. So 731 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 5: if he actually looks like a thirty six year old 732 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 5: coming off with torn achilles, then then the bits are 733 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 5: gonna die, all right. 734 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 3: So what we're gonna do is we're gonna and unless 735 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: there was another thing, yeah, oh wow, keep going, let's go, 736 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 3: let's chop it up, let's figure things out. 737 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: The universal Sam Donald love. I wanted to make it 738 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: clear that even though I am a guest and respect 739 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: the opinions of the around the NFL broadcasters in the 740 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: round the NFL Show. 741 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: I do not want to be included as one of 742 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 3: you want to be excluded from that narrative, Taylors very much. 743 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: I am on the other side of this line. History 744 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: will proof be right? 745 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: You know what's good about that? 746 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: Because I am I don't know if you know, Bill 747 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: very much on the other side with you know, your 748 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: colleague and friend Mina chimes, amongst others, that I think 749 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: it's good because I don't need what The one thing 750 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: that Sam Donald Hive doesn't need is it to become 751 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: a tidal wave of everyone expecting. 752 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: Him to be good. 753 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: We still need dominate voices like Barnwell, like Rosenthal, like 754 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: the cestags. You're wondering if I was gonna leave you 755 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: out saying no, he sucks, because that will make it 756 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: all the sweeter. 757 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: So that is great news. No issue here, No issue here. 758 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: I agree. There's a lot of times where like people 759 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: will like the Lions. For example, there were no Lions 760 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: haters the last couple of years. Everyone thought the Lions 761 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: were going to get better. Everyone was excited about what 762 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: they were doing. Like I think that there's like this 763 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: like false hater thing that comes up and people like, 764 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: no one believed in us. Like no, everyone believed in 765 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: you to get better. Maybe you exceeded expectations, which good 766 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: for you, but everyone thought you were going to be better. 767 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: Everyone thought you did a lot to improve. Nobody was like, 768 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: this team's going to be terrible. So I feel like 769 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: you want to have some actual haters to just just 770 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: make your point, make it feel a little a little 771 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: more valid. 772 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: Will you are in fine form, I could tell, like 773 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: us even doing a lot of podcasts this week on appearances, 774 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: you should check out the Bill Barnwell podcast in addition 775 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: to this show, and you'll be all caught up. So 776 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: let's get into some categories. I know you did some 777 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: superlatives on your show. This will be slightly different but 778 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 3: kind of the same. Oh maybe we'll make it different. 779 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 3: That's different. Humans talking about football. Yeah, and I'll start 780 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: with the move that made the biggest impact. And the 781 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 3: reason I want to start with that one is because 782 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: I'll take the easy one, because I think Kirk Cousins 783 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 3: is that pick for me because of obviously the position 784 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: he plays, but also the recent history of the Falcons. 785 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: And I don't even really need to dig in too 786 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: far because you know how important just having a stabilizing 787 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 3: force that that position can be for a Falcons team 788 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: that might be ready to make the leap your thoughts 789 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: Bill on the Cousins Falcons fit, and then maybe if 790 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: you want to throw in one of your own biggest impact. 791 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: Guys, I do like the fit. I think the price 792 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: matters when we talk about free agency. I think, you know, 793 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: especially when you get the actual money here. And I 794 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: think great point with this out. I believe on on 795 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 2: social media it's not that big of a deal. It 796 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: feels big, and it's two garanteed years. But this is 797 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: basically the Daniel Jones deal, but with inflation making up 798 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 2: most of the difference. Daniel Jones got eighty two million 799 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed. With inflation from the cap, that's up to 800 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: ninety three million over two years, Kirk got a hundred. 801 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't think that is an exorbitant amount for a 802 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: player who was I mean, what top ten would you 803 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: guys say last year before I got hurt in terms 804 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: of quarterbacks around the league, lower half of the top 805 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: ten for sure, like nine to ten. Yeah, sure, that's 806 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: that's a good deal to me that. I think that's 807 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: a really solid price for a quarterback who, even if 808 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: he's coming off the Achilles, he's not a moble quarterback anyway. 809 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna be asking him to run 810 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: around a lot. A player who had a great injury 811 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: history before suffering the Achilles, had not even been on 812 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 2: the injury report for many years before suffering that injury 813 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: last year. I like the fit in Zach Robinson's offense. 814 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: I think the personnel they've added not only they had 815 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: in place, but also the guys they've added over the 816 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: past two days. Donald Mooney they trade for Ron dall 817 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: Moore today, I think those are exciting pieces to work with. 818 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: They play indoors again. I you know, maybe he doesn't 819 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: give you the ceiling you're looking for. Maybe you don't 820 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: get the you know, the the rookie quarterback ceiling. But 821 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: I think if their goal is to win the NFC South, 822 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: this was a logical move. 823 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so too. 824 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 5: I just think people have this idea that they're just 825 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 5: like this ready made team and it's a totally different 826 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 5: coaching staff. People often like project forward of like how 827 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 5: is this offensive line going to be? For instance, it 828 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 5: actually was pretty disappointing last year. It's one of the 829 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 5: reasons I think they fell shure, how is their defense 830 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 5: going to be? Some of the numbers look pretty good 831 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 5: for the Falcons, but Dvoa they were twenty fourth because 832 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 5: they played such an easy schedule that was artificially inflating. 833 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 5: You look at their defense, the front sevens, you know, 834 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 5: especially the edge rushing positions, pretty lackluster. So it helps 835 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 5: their they look like the best team in that division. 836 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 5: But that's doing a lot of the work here. If 837 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: you're just lining up like who's got the best roster 838 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 5: in the NFC, they're right in the middle, and they 839 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 5: might be behind the Minnesota Ike. So it's like, I 840 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 5: don't think there's some great ready made team there, just 841 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 5: in a bad division. 842 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we'll take that, like play play the car, 843 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 2: play play it as it lays you are not going 844 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 2: to be stuck in the you know, in the NFC 845 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 2: West anytime soon. And you're an owner who's in his eighties. 846 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 2: You have a roster that's not one of the younger 847 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: rosters in football, especially after all the free agent signings 848 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 2: they made last year on defense. Like you, if you 849 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: want to go win ten eleven games, I think Kirk 850 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: can do that for. 851 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: Your biggest impact for you other or maybe it is 852 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 3: Cousins or is it someone else? 853 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: I would say cousins, but I'm trying to think of 854 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: a second person. And if you could hear me trying 855 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 2: to stall, we could give it too. 856 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: You don't have to force another impact. 857 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: No, No, because I think I think there's a conversation 858 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: to be had here. What about Sequon Barkley? 859 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: Okay? 860 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: Should Should we have the Saquon Barkley conversation? Because I 861 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 2: think it implies a couple of things. Number one, there's 862 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 2: the economic impact of Okay, we have found the point 863 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: where even teams like the Eagles were not typically investing 864 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: in running backs, are willing to go out and pay 865 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: for a premium running back. We saw that price tag 866 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 2: make sense. He's getting less than Gabe Davis which at 867 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 2: the end of the day, like I have to believe, 868 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 2: if you polled thirty two NFL diferens of coordinators and said, 869 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: are you more worried about Gabe Davis or Saquon Barkley, 870 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: you know if you're playing the next week, I have 871 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: to imagine most of them would say Saquon Barkley. And 872 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: I think it raises this really fascinating question about what 873 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: this Eagles offense is going to look like. Host Jason 874 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: Kelsey retiring and after they've now hired Kellen Moore to 875 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: be the offensive coordinator, are they going to be a 876 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: team that throws to the running back more the way 877 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: Morris offenses did with Tony Pollard and Austin because they 878 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: didn't do that much over the past couple years. Jaalen 879 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: Hurts Is Jalen Hurt's going to run less? Is he 880 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: going to be less a part of the designated running 881 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: back or quarterback running game? Is he going to be 882 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: the guy who was the tushbush. Are they gonna put 883 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: Saquon in the tush push spot? I think is a 884 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: viable possibility. I think there's all these different questions about 885 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: what Squon is going to do in that offense, and 886 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: it may work out that he's just a typical running back. 887 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 2: He gets thirty catches a year, and that's a pretty 888 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: boring answer, but I think there's a lot of exciting 889 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 2: possibilities for how the Eagles offense could evolve with Kellen 890 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 2: Moore and now with a different focal point in Saquon Barkley. 891 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: I love the fit. I'm with you. I think that 892 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at Saquon Barkley, a durability 893 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: was an issue in New York, but also the cast 894 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: around him and the quarterbacks durability, and the wide out 895 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: s durability, and the tight ends durability in the offensive 896 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: line being a shambles. Like He's in a much better spot, 897 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: and I think the Eagles have found a way, even 898 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: though their season ended in total chaos, to kind of 899 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: flip the switch a little bit where some of that 900 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: goes away. And I think Saquon Barkley is like a 901 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: new face who, like You're right, It changes the versatility 902 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: of what the offense can do. And I feel a 903 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: little bit different about the Eagles and him going to 904 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: another place I wouldn't have been big on. I like 905 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: it in Philadelphia for the NFC East rivalry side of 906 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: it too. 907 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 5: I absolutely do too, because I think my answer for 908 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 5: biggest impact a lot of the options would be on 909 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 5: the Eagles. I think Bryce Huff for them is going 910 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 5: to be perfect. I think Chauncey Gardner Johnson is in 911 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 5: that secondary. It just absolutely needed something. I think that 912 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 5: is a sort of an undervalued position, having that versatility 913 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 5: where you can play slot, you can play safety, and 914 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 5: they absolutely needed someone back there and they know what 915 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 5: they're getting in Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Like I look at 916 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 5: a lot of the moves this week, and a lot 917 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 5: of my favorite moves are the Philadelphia Eagles getting I'm 918 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 5: back in. Everybody's back in on the Eagles. How about 919 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 5: this pivot? Here's my yes, go ahead, here's my question 920 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 5: about the Eagles. This is the only part that worries 921 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 5: me about the Eagles in Chauncey Gardner Johnson. So they 922 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: could have signed him to a multi year deal last year, 923 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 5: did not do it. He misses the entire season basically 924 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 5: because of injury, and now they want to bring him 925 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 5: back on a multi year deal. Does that seem a 926 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 5: little worrisome to you? Maybe they're just trying to erase 927 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 5: what happened last year and just bring back, you know, 928 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 5: try to like just bring back the twenty twenty two 929 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: team at all costs. I think he just had a 930 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 5: certain number that he wanted to reach last year and 931 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 5: no one gave it to him. And the reporting was 932 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 5: just that they were going to spend that money somewhere. 933 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 5: But it's the first few hours of free agency. He 934 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 5: wasn't taking it, and they pivoted to Bradbury and that 935 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 5: turned to be a disastrous contract. They were not expecting 936 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 5: to keep Bradbury or pay him that much money, and 937 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 5: then Chohnzi Garner Johnson got left out in the cold. 938 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 6: I mean, he kind of did this year too. 939 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 5: None of these safeties got paid like monster money, but 940 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 5: he did better. 941 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: I like it better than the relationship between Chauncey Gardner 942 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: and Dennis Allen, which was one of the funnier subplots 943 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: in the NFC a couple of years ago. 944 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 3: Somebody I'm looking for it on Twitter. Somebody sent it 945 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: to me. We've been talking. It's come up a couple 946 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 3: of times on the show's shows this week that the 947 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 3: idea of being careful with your friend that breaks up 948 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 3: with the girl and then you say something bad about 949 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: the girl and then the friend gets back with the girl. 950 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, troubled. 951 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 3: Apparently on the way out the door, Gardner Johnson buried 952 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 3: the city of Philadelphia and their fans. 953 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 4: That's a tricky one. 954 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 5: I think he's I think he sent some tweets out 955 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 5: to make up like the worst. 956 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 3: Part of playing there were the fans, Well, welcome back. 957 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 3: If I could find that quote out, I'll do it. 958 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 3: Pivot Greggy, what is the move where you were scratching 959 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 3: your head like, come in? 960 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: What? All right? Titans fans aren't gonna love this. 961 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 5: But they made a couple just swaps that to me, 962 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 5: didn't make a lot of sense. One of them was 963 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 5: as he's alsha, here goes to Houston and they bring 964 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 5: in Kenneth Murray from the Chargers, which feels like a downgrade, 965 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 5: and they paid it, paid more money for it. Another 966 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 5: one was Derek Henry leaves the building and you bring 967 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 5: in Tony Pollard, which is fine. I like Tony Potter, 968 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 5: so I'm not really killing this one, but it's just 969 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 5: like a swap. Is this an upgrade again for the 970 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 5: same amount of money. There's just a lot going on there, 971 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 5: And if you look at each move. I don't think 972 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 5: one by one that they were terrible moves by the Titans. 973 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 5: Like Lloyd Cushionberry gets a lot of money out center, 974 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 5: but they all screamed to me of a team a 975 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 5: little bit like the Patriots, although they spent on their 976 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 5: own guys. It's like at some point you have too 977 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 5: much gap space and you just feel like you have 978 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 5: to spend it, and you make marginal upgrades, like they 979 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 5: went from Aaron Brewer to cushion Berry at Center and 980 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 5: just spent twice as much money. It's like, historically that's 981 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 5: bad process and that sort of process doesn't work out. 982 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 5: So it's more of the Titans process in general. But 983 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 5: especially that Murray contract seemed bizarre to me because he 984 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 5: was kind of a fiasco and with the Chargers. 985 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea what he was, what that 986 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 2: market was like. That was going to be my pick 987 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: as well. 988 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: Whoa, I've got a situation that irks me. Okay, go ahead, 989 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: And it's more about just inactivity and I and I 990 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: you know the way this works. Probably by the time 991 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: people are listening to this, this could change. But the 992 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs needed a wide receiver. They needed to look for something, 993 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: and they've added IRV Smith, a you know, largely forgettable 994 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: tight end and nothing else. I know they're restructured the 995 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: Mahome Steel and I think there's that to me suggests 996 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: or hintsat a bigger move to come, and I hope 997 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: it does. But it's like they're the draft is helpful too, 998 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: but their drop position isn't great, Like you need to 999 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: look around for something because you can't get I think 1000 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: they will, but it's like they have done nothing yet. 1001 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: And yet I speak against myself because I trust no 1002 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: team more to kind of figure it figure out their 1003 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: own issues. So still players that we just talked about, 1004 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: Mike Williams in the news. You know, Odell's out there 1005 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: and there's the draft ahead. It could be trades. I'd 1006 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: like Mike Williams would be interesting. 1007 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 5: The Bengals ever trade t Higgins to them. I forgot 1008 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 5: the Chiefs, by the way for the Titans. There was 1009 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 5: a contract I liked even less on the Titans, which 1010 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 5: was which we never talked about in the pot, which 1011 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 5: is Chudobi a woozy which I just didn't get because 1012 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 5: he was coming off of torn acl last year and 1013 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 5: struggled pretty badly for the Bengals got benched more or 1014 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 5: less during that stretch run, and they like want to 1015 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 5: establish a veteran culture and they give all this money 1016 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 5: to him, So that's curious. 1017 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: During a live stream on Twitch last July, CJ. Gardner 1018 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 3: Johnson was asked about his favorite and least favorite part 1019 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 3: of his time in Philadelphia. Here's a quote, Philadelphia, Colleen 1020 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 3: will this is not me. 1021 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: This is the quote. 1022 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 3: My least favorite thing is the people. They're obnoxious. I 1023 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 3: can't stand the mother. 1024 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: All the people, not even just the fans. 1025 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, is that the right context? Like 1026 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 2: they could that could be like a out of context, 1027 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: that could be differently. 1028 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: Randy Chavez behind the glass, big funk, can you check 1029 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 3: in on the context? 1030 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 1: That's important. Bill, Bill's a journal at his. 1031 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 5: Heart, ironic may It's like like if the Eagles fans 1032 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 5: read that, wouldn't they recognize one of their own? And 1033 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 5: all like that is someone absolutely, I don't doubt. So 1034 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 5: that is hilarious because yeah, he he tweeted out flying 1035 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 5: home and put an Eagle thing up. 1036 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: He I don't think he's addressed these comments, all right? 1037 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah? 1038 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: Go ahead, I just have a question. We also find 1039 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: out what his favorite thing was. Lea's favorite thing was 1040 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: with people. That's a really vague one that. 1041 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them too. 1042 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 5: He does say, I do it with the fans of 1043 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 5: Philly and apology regardless. This is an amazing place and 1044 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 5: we had some memories together. Let's go get us on. 1045 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 3: So we had let bygones be bygones, as they say, 1046 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. 1047 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 1: Really. 1048 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 3: How about this one the Vince Lombardi memorial what the 1049 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 3: Hell's going on around here? 1050 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: Bill? For you? 1051 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 3: The signing that really left your trade or whatever that 1052 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 3: left you scratch in your head? 1053 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 2: I would say the vikings with Sam. I don't want 1054 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 2: to have to rehash that though, because I really don't 1055 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 2: understand what's going on there. Maybe can we talk about 1056 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 2: the Raiders and Christian Wilkins, because on one hand it 1057 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 2: makes total sense, and on the other I don't think 1058 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: it makes sense. Like from the perspective of we need 1059 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: to upgrade this roster, they needed an interior pass rusher, 1060 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: and I think that makes total sense. But in the 1061 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: big picture, I think they're They think they're a lot 1062 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 2: closer to contention than they actually are. I really think 1063 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: they need to take a step backwards on a step forward, 1064 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: and kind of feels like they're just making the same 1065 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: mistake that twenty years of Raiders teams have done in 1066 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 2: years past. But I don't know, do you guys feel 1067 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: like there's a an obvious one that that I'm missing, 1068 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: because I feel like that's kind of cheating too. 1069 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: Does it strike He was like the Dominican Sue of 1070 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: the Dolphins back when that happened and everyone thought that 1071 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: Miami was winning the offseason. 1072 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 5: That is a great great Wilkins is a great player, 1073 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 5: and I was surprised he got to free agency in 1074 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 5: the first place. 1075 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: It was one of the most surprising things. 1076 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 5: And I do like what they're building winning with defense 1077 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 5: first though. And you get fifty seven million dollars guaranteed 1078 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 5: to a defensive tackle in the same year that you 1079 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 5: signed Gardner Minshew as your presumptive starting quarterback. It's just 1080 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 5: it's weird process. But you know, he was one of 1081 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 5: the best players of AILA. 1082 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: I offer my theory on this, I think and this 1083 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 3: is a power of his personality. Culled the personality Antonio 1084 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 3: Pierce has an organization whipped up into an uproar they 1085 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 3: got him puffing out their chess. You heard the comments 1086 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 3: about the Chiefs and can't wait to give him the 1087 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 3: Jordan rules. They go and they they're in. You know, 1088 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce, a former linebackers like, yeah, give me that 1089 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 3: Max Crosby chess piece to pair with. 1090 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 4: Him, and we're gonna kick some more ass. 1091 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 3: And it's like, bring us in this guy and that guy, 1092 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 3: where even though it makes all the sense in the 1093 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 3: world to trade Devonte Adams and reset for the future, 1094 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,479 Speaker 3: we're keeping him because we're the We're gonna, We're gonna 1095 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 3: continue to I think, And I don't think it's necessarily 1096 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 3: a bad thing. 1097 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for just positive. 1098 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 3: Vibes and why not they could win nine games next 1099 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 3: year and not and make the playoffs. But at the 1100 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 3: same time, maybe the Pierce and the energy around the 1101 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 3: end of that season and him getting hired is affecting 1102 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 3: more than just where they went ahead. 1103 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 2: Coach, No question, I think that is absolutely what's happening there. 1104 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 2: I'll throw up two more. I'll let you guys decide. 1105 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 2: It's more interesting. I will say the Packers swapping out 1106 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones for Josh Jacobs when I don't know what 1107 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 2: you guys feel. I think Aaron Jones is the better 1108 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: running back of the two. And the Patriots where they 1109 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 2: came out this offseason and they said we got money 1110 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: to burn. Jered Mayo was excited to spend money, and 1111 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 2: they have kind of just run it back with the 1112 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 2: old Patriots. They have only made too many additions outside 1113 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 2: of what they had previously, so a little intrigued as 1114 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 2: to what their short term plan is. 1115 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: I like those guys, I think for me because the Vikings, 1116 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, they you know, you move on with Daniel 1117 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: Hunter and you replace them with someone else. But it's 1118 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: like the Aaron Jones to the Vikings was one of 1119 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: my favorite moves, and I couldn't be more with you. 1120 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm just not as high on Josh Jacobs as some others. 1121 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: Have been really hot and cold season to season, and 1122 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: I absolutely think that was a steal from Minnesota and 1123 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: Green Bay got worse at running back. I've actually liked 1124 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: what the Patriots have done. 1125 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up because I think it's 1126 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 5: almost been a little under the raidar. What a sea 1127 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 5: change it is that Elliott Wolf is running their team 1128 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 5: now and the philosophy that he brings from Green Bay 1129 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 5: is totally different. Even said they're changing their entire scouting 1130 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 5: language that they've had, so everything's going to be different. 1131 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 5: And that's just not a team that goes out there 1132 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 5: and spends crazy. So yes, Jerrod Mayo said that they 1133 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 5: had all this space to spend. I think they wanted to. 1134 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 5: Now look when we got a very competitive, good market, 1135 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 5: those are the types of deals. Actually, I would not 1136 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 5: have expected Bill Belichick to get done. So it did 1137 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 5: feel a little different that these players were coming back 1138 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 5: and then the Uce move just because we haven't hit 1139 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 5: it on this podcast is one of the craziest reported 1140 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 5: stories we've seen. That he literally had eleven million dollars 1141 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 5: guaranteed in a two year contract that he passed on 1142 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 5: for a one year, three million dollar contract with that 1143 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 5: can go up to eight incentives, which is wild. And 1144 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 5: you're seeing some buy in from the defensive players, especially 1145 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 5: on this team, of like maybe what Mayo's gonna do. 1146 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 5: But I thought, I think it's an ultimate bet on 1147 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 5: yourself moment that he's literally taking less money because he 1148 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 5: thinks he's gonna hit those incentives and more importantly, that 1149 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 5: he'll get to free agency next year, people say, like, 1150 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 5: bet on yourself passing on eight million dollars guaranteed, bet 1151 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 5: on yourself. I literally can't remember that happening, especially for 1152 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 5: a second round pick who's probably made what two three 1153 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 5: million dollars total in his entire career. It's almost unprecedented. 1154 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 5: Said now, I'm rooting a little extra for josh Ucci. 1155 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 5: I think it was a good movie. Had twelve and 1156 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 5: a half sacks two years ago. 1157 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 4: Good luck to him. 1158 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: Good luck. 1159 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, if I was his age, I'm serious. Agent wasn't thrilled. 1160 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: Does he have an agent? Yescause you could. 1161 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 5: Tell the way Tom p the Pell Raiser, tweeted it out, 1162 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 5: you could tell this is a rare case where a 1163 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 5: player went on their own and made the decision, like 1164 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 5: essentially he went against his agent's advice and did what 1165 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 5: he wanted to. I'm fine with the Patriot like they 1166 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 5: were in on really but they had a number. They 1167 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 5: weren't going to go too high, like what are they 1168 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 5: gonna do? 1169 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: Seven and ten? 1170 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 2: We we just we just came off a season where 1171 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 2: we were like, Okay, the Patriots need speed, they need 1172 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 2: they desperately need pieces. Where were their new quarterback's gonna 1173 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: be Yeah. The guy they've added is Antonio Gibson. Hmmm, 1174 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, I don't know. 1175 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 3: A couple more minutes with Billy, I'm gonna I'm gonna 1176 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 3: combine two categories here. So best remaining player in your opinion, 1177 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 3: and let's tie that together with predictions for what's next, 1178 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell, who's a player that you you you're quite 1179 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 3: fond of that's on the market, uh, and a team 1180 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 3: that should be very interested in going after said player. 1181 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's go. 1182 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 3: Maybe not even a prediction, Bill, more just like in 1183 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 3: your mind, like what just makes so much sense? 1184 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 2: You know, for you, I'll throw a prediction out there. 1185 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 2: I'll go ahead, not scared, go for it. I'd put 1186 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 2: a team out there. I think a Greek Armstead makes 1187 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 2: a lot of sense, a player who is really talented 1188 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 2: as a free technique San Francisco. It wasn't like he 1189 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 2: wasn't playing well, had some injury issues, but still is 1190 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 2: playing at a high level. I think they had some 1191 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 2: some cap concerns. Maybe they could be a little a 1192 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: little less expensive after adding Hargrave on the defensive line, 1193 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa's deal is hitting and that's a significant contracts 1194 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 2: and maybe they're cutting back a bit. 1195 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 5: I put a pin in this for one second, Bill, 1196 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 5: I hate to interrupt you. We actually have developing news 1197 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 5: on the Armstead situation. You are not allowed to look 1198 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 5: at your computer because it sounds like we know where 1199 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 5: he's gonna go. 1200 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: If you can. 1201 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 5: Guess what an opportun where he ends up landing. You 1202 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 5: actually win around the NFL podcast twenty twenty four. 1203 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: You're the like like those shows you're on ESPN. Here 1204 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: we go. 1205 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't win very often. I the team I was 1206 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 2: going to put out there was the Jacksonville Jaguars. 1207 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: Whoa are you serious? Stops? Did he get it? He 1208 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: gotta road? Who I told you on the podcast? What 1209 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: I told you this? This guy should be a GM 1210 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 1: But that's it. Time he sees things. 1211 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I did not look 1212 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 2: they were my pick. I kind of figured if they 1213 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 2: got count seated, go for that kind of move it. 1214 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: Actually, he's a Northeastern graduate. He's got integrity for you. 1215 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: They don't have like a television directly in front of 1216 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: you that's off to the side. That okay, I and 1217 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe you because you're You're that's 1218 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: the ilk of type of the journalists that you are. 1219 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: You would have you've nailed that wonderful job. 1220 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 2: No, I would either have made a funny pick that 1221 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: was wrong as opposed to a card. So why is 1222 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 2: that such a great move? Now for the Jacks, they 1223 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,479 Speaker 2: made a couple of cots. Put it Hazio. They needed 1224 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 2: some pieces up front. They needed to make an addition 1225 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 2: to the defensive side of the ball. They are, you know, 1226 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 2: they're set on the edge with Walker and Josh Allen. 1227 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 2: They cut Darius Williams. I think they're gonna maybe address 1228 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 2: corner in the draft. But it kind of felt like 1229 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 2: once they lost Calvin Ridley, they had money to burn. 1230 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 2: I think they were budgeting to bring him back, and 1231 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 2: once they lost in Tennessee, they kind of had this 1232 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 2: big chunk of money, didn't really have a lot to 1233 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 2: do with it. It wasn't really any you know, a replacement 1234 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: for Ridley on the offensive side of the ball that 1235 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 2: made sense. They already signed Gabe Davis. I think they'll 1236 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 2: probably draft a wide receiver, but Armstead was the best 1237 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 2: player left and address the position of need for them. 1238 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 2: I think they were weak up front. I think they 1239 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 2: needed another piece on the interior arms s it's a 1240 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 2: great player. Thought it made a lot of sense. 1241 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: I love me. He's like six foot eight, could barely 1242 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: walk the fit through a door. Still playing well. 1243 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 5: He was actually the first large fifth highest graded interior 1244 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 5: pass rusher last year according to PFF. Just miss snaps 1245 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 5: for the first time and missed thirteen games over the 1246 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 5: last two years. It does remind me a little bit 1247 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 5: of though, the Rams signing Alan Robinson just because they 1248 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 5: had so much money when they couldn't get Von Miller 1249 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 5: that they just like, well, we got to spend that 1250 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 5: money the next day, and so that's the Jaguars do 1251 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 5: this with the Calvin Ridley money. But Armstead's a good player. 1252 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 2: But did they was Trent balky the guy who drafted 1253 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 2: Eric Armston? 1254 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 1: Ooh was he was? 1255 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:18,399 Speaker 2: He still there? 1256 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 1: I believe he was. That was back in twenty fifteen, 1257 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: seventeenth over. 1258 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 5: I think Trent Balki lasted it until fifteen or sixteen. 1259 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,399 Speaker 5: So you've really sleuthed it once again. You win, Yeah, 1260 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen he was there until So he did draft 1261 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 5: Eric ham said, you can often connect these little dots 1262 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 5: the well he can. 1263 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. 1264 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 3: Bill, before we let you go a little heat check 1265 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: on you, because you've already won this podcast. But did 1266 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 3: you also win well, you can't win it out right 1267 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 3: because f and Rosenthal went four and Oh what a 1268 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 3: year Rosenthal had in his predictions. Bill, I don't know 1269 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 3: if you were plugged it on that. It was I 1270 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 3: heard infurious. 1271 00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 2: A source texted me about very time. 1272 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: It was a constant thorn in the side of the 1273 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: other two people on this show. 1274 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 3: He had a great year at his predictions, including his 1275 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 3: over unders where he went four and Oh. 1276 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 4: Now we're going to check back back in August. You 1277 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 4: were on the show. 1278 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 3: Bill, let's go over your over unders. 1279 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: Here we go. 1280 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 4: You had the Rams over six and a half. 1281 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: That was a home run. 1282 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 3: Give him a ding to a good start, give him 1283 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 3: a big old Did you had that by about week 1284 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 3: you know, fourteen and then seven? You had the Lions 1285 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 3: under nine and a half they had twelve. 1286 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 6: You were that you were you were that team that 1287 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 6: didn't believe in him. 1288 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: You were the haters. You were the hater You had 1289 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: the Broncos over eight and a half. Oh, this is 1290 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: no way to send him out of the episode. 1291 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 3: Hey, this is just this is accountability. The Broncos went 1292 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 3: eight and nine. Wow, I didn't realize they got to eight. 1293 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 3: You almost had it up a half game short. Yeah, 1294 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 3: and the Eagles under eleven and a half and that 1295 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 3: was looking like was a a lot of trouble. And 1296 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 3: then they went in the tank and finished at eleven 1297 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 3: and six after they were eleven. 1298 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 1: And one, I believe. 1299 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the year. 1300 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 4: We won't say what Mark did in that competation. 1301 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a disaster. 1302 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: My source also texting, but Mark did as well. 1303 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: Oh I'm not surprised. 1304 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 3: Now you gave him another thing to think about it. 1305 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 3: He lays in bed with his eyes wide open, staring 1306 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 3: at the ceiling. Bill, come on, mental health. 1307 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: That's a nice ceiling. 1308 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 3: Bill Barnwell, you've said it all. Please, what do you 1309 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 3: got out there? Give people avenues to get to more Barnwell. 1310 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell Ridding content at ESPN dot com, ESPN's Bill 1311 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 2: Barnwell Show podcast. I'll think I'll be on NFL Live 1312 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: sometime next week, which a watch NFL Live every day. 1313 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'll hop on there some sports centers here 1314 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 2: and there around the horn here and there, sports centers. 1315 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 3: Here I'm doing I'm trying a new thing as hosts. 1316 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 3: I'm doing the hot ones thing, the host of hot ones. 1317 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 3: Or He's like, look in this were that camera, in 1318 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 3: that camera and tell us what you got going on, 1319 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 3: And I think you did a great job with it. 1320 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 2: Just there. I've only I've only got one camera. Unfortunately, 1321 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stare at that camera until until proven. 1322 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 4: Otherwise, Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Barnwell, thanks beg, thank you. 1323 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 1: Now. Russ Moore, well, I mean that was a stunt. 1324 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: That was a nice look into the skills of Bill Barnol. 1325 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: Just thirty two te got. 1326 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 5: It and Ian called them a dark horse. So he 1327 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 5: he managed to pick a dark horse. 1328 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 4: Pretty good. Let's take a break and uh, let's finish 1329 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 4: up the news. 1330 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: NFL media insiders. Do they even like each other? 1331 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 3: Great reaction to some something that just happened here, sorry 1332 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 3: Tom reaction. 1333 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 2: So as Tom and I are reporting, we have a trade. 1334 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 5: It's always confusing to me which tweets you put both names, 1335 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 5: and then some tweets it's only one name. I don't 1336 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 5: know how that all works. 1337 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: He was second was. 1338 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 4: Greg Greg Rolls a doll on the air. NFL Network 1339 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 4: saying what. 1340 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: Needs to be shd that there's heat. I don't even 1341 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: need to say it. 1342 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 5: That clip if you re listen to it on the 1343 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 5: podcast or you or you watch it on YouTube. Tom 1344 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 5: starts to break the news. He has like a half second. 1345 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,959 Speaker 5: He starts speaking and Ian literally cuts him off. 1346 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: That's the game. But when we went down this avenue, 1347 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: that's the game back in Austin. Like I said that, 1348 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: there is a bit of a flashpoint focus elements and 1349 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: it's just mounting and growing and bubbling. 1350 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 3: Just we're just heading into draft season. This is all 1351 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 3: coming to a head. That's what flashpoint focus is all about. Yep, 1352 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 3: do we have another clip or is it we do it? 1353 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: We do listen to that. 1354 00:59:55,040 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 4: That's soul right there. All right, let's listen to. 1355 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Greg really quick before we let you go. 1356 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to be too harsh. 1357 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 3: You know on your backdroper, do you wear it kind 1358 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 3: of looks like you've got antlers just with there's like 1359 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 3: a back. 1360 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: There like move. Yeah. 1361 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 7: A producer also want to see what the sign says 1362 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 7: behind you since we'relling in every third letter, So as 1363 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 7: long as. 1364 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 5: It's nicer, if you're if you're a New Orleans fan, 1365 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 5: you'll kind of recognize that artist Simon who does a 1366 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 5: lot of stuff. 1367 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: That was a wedding gift. 1368 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 5: And you can also see my my lock trophy here 1369 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 5: as the back to back champion of the around the 1370 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 5: NFL Lock competition. 1371 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: It's a dynasty. People are saying there is no greater 1372 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: there is no greater self promoter in the entire building though. 1373 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Greg, No, he's he's there. If he's got a platform, 1374 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 3: he will be pumping. 1375 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 5: You know. It's like like a politicians thing, like, don't 1376 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 5: answer the question that they ask Uh, answer the question 1377 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 5: you wish that they asked. I pivoted right off that antler. 1378 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 5: You might right into what was important. You should run 1379 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 5: for vice. 1380 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 3: We would be comfortable if you want to join the RFK, 1381 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 3: take a just a sabbatical here, we'd be. 1382 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 1: It's like antlers. 1383 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 5: By the way, while I was saying that, I was like, oh, 1384 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 5: I'm clipping this for the show. 1385 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 3: Really good hell, good work. I like it all. Pell 1386 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 3: Raiser coming after you. He was trying to make a 1387 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 3: fool of you on live television. 1388 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 6: I could work on that backdrop. There's a lot going 1389 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 6: on it. 1390 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 5: It's not a it's not as smooth as some some 1391 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 5: out there. 1392 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 6: Dan's looks great, you know, Mark's is good. 1393 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: Mine mine is about as stark as it gets. I'm 1394 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: still working on that space. 1395 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 3: The key to a good background, I find is to 1396 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 3: have more depth. But it's hard to have depth of 1397 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 3: space here in uh Los Angeles, right. 1398 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 5: I tried to talk Amica into I would set it 1399 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 5: up on the like that the camera would be showing 1400 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 5: the whole rest of the garage, and she thought that 1401 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 5: looked insane to show like the back of a garage. 1402 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 3: Then there would be depth, Like, Greg, we get it, 1403 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 3: you're a feminist, like Liz pharised sitting on the shelf. 1404 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: We get it, dude. Well that's side champion. 1405 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 6: Birthday present from Liz says Happy birthday, Greg. 1406 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: It used to be in your bedroom. You could have 1407 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 1: switched that up. 1408 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 5: Big Wait, that's as signed Liz phari cit not only 1409 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 5: you know, individually signed uh. When she was a guest 1410 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 5: of the Tonight Show and I was a page there, right, I. 1411 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Thought maybe she went to your wedding too. 1412 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a little bit of a past there, 1413 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 3: because there's more to it than just look at me. 1414 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 4: I mean'd give you I'm a champion. 1415 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 6: So Gabe Kapler is in the mix there back there, 1416 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 6: that's signed. 1417 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 3: Us that he is a a Jewish star of a 1418 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:41,439 Speaker 3: Boston sports team. 1419 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 5: Who enter that who was batting? I believe eighth for 1420 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 5: some team in Japan? Uh and what I guess you 1421 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 5: could call it would be the first time I really 1422 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 5: ever met my wife Emica. 1423 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,479 Speaker 1: How about that Greg is relling autographs? Apparently I didn't 1424 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 1: realize that about him autograph hunting. 1425 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 3: I've seen him at the President elbowing sharp elbows to children. 1426 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Also get a lot of presents. It seems like a 1427 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,919 Speaker 1: lot of people were giving you gifts left. 1428 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 5: Well, that was from the best man at our wedding. 1429 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 5: He brought us to that game. It was when we 1430 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 5: first met at it was your. 1431 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Cousin who was stung by one hundred and twenty b's 1432 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: at the wedding? Did he give you? 1433 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,040 Speaker 6: That was not at the wedding. That was when we 1434 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 6: were ten years old. 1435 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 5: In the breaking news Forrests of Wilbraham breaking. 1436 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: News, what was it again? I forgot? 1437 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 5: The Seahawks are acquiring Sam Howell Washington Commanders. They also 1438 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 5: get a fourth round and a sixth round pick in 1439 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 5: the deal the Commanders actually move up. I mean, man, 1440 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 5: if i'm Sam Howe, I'm like, wait, it's only a 1441 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 5: move up. The Commanders move up to the third and 1442 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 5: the fifth round of the draft. So essentially two pick 1443 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 5: swaps where the Commanders move up one round and the 1444 01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 5: Seahawks get Sam Howell for I'll say it virtually nothing. 1445 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of love it for Seattle. 1446 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 3: Oh well, it depends on your opinion of Sam Howell. 1447 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I actually think like that. I think it's good in business. 1448 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: I know that Gino Smith is just like likely your 1449 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: start at this point, but like McDonald, not good news 1450 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: for Gino Smith. 1451 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 5: It is good news Gino could have had a tougher competitor. 1452 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 5: I still think actually a rookie will be there too, 1453 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 5: and it might be one of those three headed battles 1454 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 5: where it was Remember it was like Whitehurst Russell Wilson, 1455 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 5: and was Matt Flynn there. 1456 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Matt Flynn and Matt Flynn had been the big free 1457 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: agent signing then lost his job. 1458 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 5: But if this is their veteran competition for Gino, you 1459 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 5: know he's he's gonna be over Sam Howise, certainly. And look, 1460 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 5: if you can just get a third year quarterback who's 1461 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 5: shown that he's decent, and all you have to do 1462 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 5: is move down twenty four spots from the third to 1463 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,040 Speaker 5: the fourth round. I mean, sure, any cheap way to 1464 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 5: get a quarterback, I'll take it. 1465 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Solid trade. 1466 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's easy to forget now because he had 1467 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 3: such a disastrous second half. There were a real conversation 1468 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 3: about how being the answer there and watching now a 1469 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 3: regime change occurs, so all of a sudden, he's no 1470 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 3: longer a favorite son. But he absolutely torpedoed his future 1471 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 3: there with some reckless bad play. So he's looking to 1472 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 3: kind of become a more consistent player. Maybe he can 1473 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 3: get he's kind of got a little bit of Ryan 1474 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick DNA, and then maybe he can have opportunities along 1475 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 3: the way life. 1476 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: And thanks to his late season swoon, they won four 1477 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: games and are in position to get a new quarterback. 1478 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 1: True obviously the Greggy and the Pats there. 1479 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 5: It was a good I had to It was a 1480 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 5: lesson on stats don't lie, but they need context. I 1481 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 5: believe he was benched at the time that he was 1482 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 5: leading the NFL in passing yards. That's we're close to it. 1483 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 5: My son walked or maybe it was fantasy points or 1484 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 5: something among quarter because Walker was was blown away. He 1485 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 5: was like, how could they bench the guy that is 1486 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 5: leading the NFL in passing? 1487 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 4: He was throwing for an ass ton of passing yards? 1488 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 3: I remember that. All right, let's finish out the news. 1489 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 3: How many passing yards? 1490 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 4: Nast he was on pace for like a five thousand yards. 1491 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I love you know dirty words or phrases that are 1492 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: spun that way where it's like, that's not you just 1493 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: created a term. 1494 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 5: For the most part, thank you Randy for letting me 1495 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 5: know that Kapler was playing for the Yomi or he Giants. 1496 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 6: By the way, struggled badly. 1497 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Was kind of what's that mark to say that? I 1498 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: didn't say that. Heavens to Betsy, my grandmother used to 1499 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: say that. So that's rapid, yes. 1500 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 3: Like everyone that was born in eighteen ninety eight used 1501 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 3: to say that. All right, here we go, let's spin 1502 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 3: through the rest of the news. Here the Cowboys finally 1503 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 3: get in the mix. They signed Eric Kendricks to a deal. 1504 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 3: Kendricks had backed out of an agreement or it was 1505 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 3: heading toward. 1506 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: Where was it? Yeah, he had agreed with the forty nine. 1507 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 3: Ers Niners, and he changes his mind and goes to 1508 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. The Raiders finally feels like it's been something 1509 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 3: that's been percolating for a couple of years. 1510 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Now. 1511 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 3: They say goodbye to Hunter renfro So they cut ties 1512 01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 3: with the slot receiver and Ronnie Stanley stays with Baltimore 1513 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 3: the guard. He gets a haircut, which means a pay cut, 1514 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 3: and they trade Morgan Moses to the Jets for a 1515 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 3: late pick swap. Actually, I like that trade for the 1516 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 3: Jets as well. That was a he was on the 1517 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 3: Jets then signed with the Ravens, now the Jets getting 1518 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 3: back for some late round picks. 1519 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 1: Anything on those moves. I like Stanley staying in Baltimore 1520 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: because they've lost offensive lineman, they've lost Patrick Queen, they've 1521 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: lost Geno Stone, they lost Ronald Darby. You know, it's 1522 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's out the door. And you mentioned the Cowboys 1523 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 1: rimerently talked about it. I feel like everyone is so 1524 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like we get it. But for the 1525 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones telling us that this is going to be 1526 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: like the all in team that gets super active. They've 1527 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: lost almost forty five hundred snaps in terms of personnel 1528 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: off the roster, and in some of those and key positions, they're. 1529 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 3: In a tricky financial place, and I think that's playing 1530 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 3: into They got this dack thing hanging over the team. 1531 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 3: You got the CD Lamb contract hanging over the team. 1532 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 3: You got you know, Michah Parsons down the road. I 1533 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 3: think get they run any kind of in a tough 1534 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 3: spot a little bit. 1535 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, they also had I don't know if it was 1536 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 5: ever confirmed that it was actually Tyrone Smith's a Twitter 1537 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 5: account that was like saying, call me up, Cowboys, I 1538 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 5: don't really want to leave. I also think though the 1539 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,759 Speaker 5: Cowboys do have a heart. There is a draft analyst 1540 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 5: out there by the name of like Connor Connor NFL 1541 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 5: draft analyst, and he said he's a big Cowboys fan, 1542 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 5: apparently that he would start doing meth if the if 1543 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 5: the Cowboys don't freaking sign a free agent in the 1544 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 5: next hour, And within that hour they signed Eric Kendrick. 1545 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 5: So I think they saw that out there and they wanted. 1546 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 1: To save somebody. Yeah, that's that's that is That's a 1547 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 1: caring move. 1548 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 3: Tyrone Smith, by the way, veteran left tackle thirty three 1549 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 3: years old, coming off a big season with them. He 1550 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 3: was He's always been a really talented, uh you know, 1551 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 3: borderline Hall of Fame level talent for the Cowboys. I'm 1552 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 3: surprised he doesn't have a hotter market. He's hanging out 1553 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,000 Speaker 3: there still. Maybe does that have a hot market. He's 1554 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 3: just taking his time to make the decisions. But like 1555 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 3: nudging the Cowboys and be like, hey, guys, you want 1556 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 3: to think this over two weeks after it was widely 1557 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 3: reported that they. 1558 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Were moving on. 1559 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,679 Speaker 3: I kind of love if there's some type of red flags, 1560 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,759 Speaker 3: you know some I think medical history. 1561 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 5: He's not getting the contract that he was hoping for, 1562 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 5: some big guaranteed money, and teams must be worried about 1563 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:19,919 Speaker 5: the injuries. 1564 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, can you understand, like I do, get the 1565 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: I kind of want to just stay with the Cowboys 1566 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: in Dallas because it's annoying to move. 1567 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm sure he could get a move. 1568 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 3: At least it seems fun to play for the Cowboys. 1569 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 3: I know, Cowboys. I hate the Cowboys. Don't want to 1570 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 3: hear that. But you're on Prime time all the time, 1571 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,599 Speaker 3: You're treated well by ownership, You're in a beautiful stadium, 1572 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:39,679 Speaker 3: everybody's always watching. 1573 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: You probably live. 1574 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 5: On a ranch, although Schultz pointed out how state income 1575 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 5: tax Dalton Schultz pointed out how sometimes when you're working out, 1576 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 5: they are like taking tours past you and they can 1577 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 5: see through the glass to you working out, and he 1578 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,680 Speaker 5: was just like, what's you know, kind of reminded me 1579 01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 5: of your situation mark where the doors are going by 1580 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 5: your Now imagine that, except you're doing like squats and whatnot. 1581 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 5: I mean, the last thing I think you would want is. 1582 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a little difference between me doing squats 1583 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,520 Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz here. It was impressive. 1584 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 3: You're saying like you're concerned you might you know, be 1585 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 3: for something when you're doing squats and someone. 1586 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 5: I just mean, like, you don't want people staring at 1587 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,679 Speaker 5: you while you're lifting, you know, doing weights and stuff. 1588 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 3: And you got you know, that's certainly a consequence as well. Potentially, Yeah, you're. 1589 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 1: Right, that's one of the that's that's that's that could 1590 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: happen to you. That would be problematic. 1591 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 4: Go to Terry Blacks right before middle school class. 1592 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: They keep they must have nowhere else to go because 1593 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 1: they've gone back and forth. 1594 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 3: I should at times journalistically, a downside of playing for 1595 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,720 Speaker 3: the Cowboys is that you physically cannot advance past the 1596 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 3: divisional round of the playoffs. 1597 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,760 Speaker 1: But there's a little bit of a yeah, but your 1598 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: off season starts sooner. 1599 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 4: Glass ceiling as well. 1600 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 1: It's true. 1601 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,839 Speaker 5: You don't really get paid extra for the playoffs. It's sneaky, 1602 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 5: it's true, I mean a little bit. 1603 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 1604 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 3: In other news, Willie Gay goes to the Saints. The 1605 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 3: Bucks bring Jordan I'd had the safety back home after 1606 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 3: a couple of years with the Jets. The Bengals get 1607 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 3: Sheldon Rankins, who I've always liked Von Bell. 1608 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: They cut ties with Nick Scott. 1609 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 5: Also, while we were taping, the Lions picked up DJ Reader, 1610 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 5: who is coming off a torn quad, but it was 1611 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 5: a very good player when he is healthy, to a 1612 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 5: pretty sizey contract. Some of these contracts for defensive lineman 1613 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 5: Rangkins is a good example, went way up. Like he's 1614 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 5: a guy that Williams injuries. They had been signing like 1615 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 5: one year. Yeah, I know, torn quads. I'm surprised that 1616 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 5: I want to look at the particulars if they have 1617 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 5: some protection injury wise, because you're often not the same 1618 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 5: player off a torn quad. But Rankings got two for 1619 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,679 Speaker 5: twenty six Like that just shows how much cap spaces 1620 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 5: out there because he's the same player. He's a very 1621 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 5: good player, the same player as he's been the last 1622 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,679 Speaker 5: couple of years, but now is getting almost like double 1623 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 5: the money that he was getting from Houston or from 1624 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 5: the Jets. 1625 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 3: Should be clear that Adams had a torn quad tendon, 1626 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,679 Speaker 3: which is different than the muscle. 1627 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 4: So I think it's the tendon. 1628 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 3: Is the one where it's like, uh oh, maybe in 1629 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 3: the muscle terrors not quite as we're boding. All right, 1630 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 3: that's what's happening in the news. 1631 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 1: You get everything. Well, I think we had a couple 1632 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 1: of predictions ye out there. 1633 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, let's go, let's cycle back to that. 1634 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 3: So I asked the Bill to offer a prediction, and 1635 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 3: not only in real time did he offer a sound one. 1636 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,720 Speaker 3: It was confirmed via the news seconds later that he 1637 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,440 Speaker 3: was correct in uh uh getting. 1638 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 1: Who was it? 1639 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,679 Speaker 3: It was to the Jaguars, Eric, Eric Armstead, So Eric Armstead, 1640 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,480 Speaker 3: So Brian. 1641 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 1: He just had a stroke. Mark. 1642 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 3: I don't know who Brian is. Mark, who could be Brian? 1643 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 3: If you give us a prediction. 1644 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 1: So, Mike Williams, I've been looking around at a couple 1645 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 1: of these wide out rooms, and I think Mike Williams. 1646 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 1: I think the former owner of this team would have 1647 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 1: liked the Mike Williams concept a lot. But the Las 1648 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders right now have DeVante Adams who are there 1649 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 1: obviously this, you know, I don't think the idea of 1650 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: the trading him is gone because they got behind him. Yeah, 1651 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers. And then you've got guys like Trey Tucker, 1652 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: DJ Turner and Christian Wilkerson. They have nothing at wide receivers. 1653 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 1: So I feel like Mike Williams to Las Vegas, you know, 1654 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 1: in your in the same division. It kind of takes 1655 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: away from the Chargers, Adds to the Raiders they need 1656 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 1: a wide receiver and right Church, wrong Pew. 1657 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 3: Why so it's so on brand for where this team 1658 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 3: is right now, and this player, Odell wants to play 1659 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 3: in Vegas. Odell Beckham to the Raiders, I guess better 1660 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,519 Speaker 3: a little more money than you think. 1661 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 1: You're Odell though, and you literally shredded your relationship in 1662 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland because of what you can deemed to be and 1663 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 1: your father deemed to be shaky quarterback play. Do you 1664 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 1: sign up with a team that right now is Gardner 1665 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,680 Speaker 1: Minshew and Aidan O'Connell. 1666 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 4: He'll go who offers him money. 1667 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 3: At this point, I could just see the Raiders being 1668 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 3: wanting to get in the Odell business. 1669 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 1: Put it that way. I mean, we went angle the Super. 1670 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 3: Bowl at uh in Vegas this year. You know, did 1671 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 3: the walk around the concourse. I always like to do 1672 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 3: that and see what these stadiums look at. Beautiful facility, 1673 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 3: Allegiance Stadium. But the Raiders are insane with who they retire, 1674 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 3: the numbers they retire. They retired Randy Moss's number. 1675 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 1: They didn't retire his number. 1676 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 5: They had He's in the ring of whatever they had 1677 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 5: they had. 1678 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 6: I guess what it was that didn't even go. 1679 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,360 Speaker 5: Well, it was like any raider that has ever made 1680 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame gets their picture even though they 1681 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,640 Speaker 5: count they counted Jerry Rice as a Raider to. 1682 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,599 Speaker 3: Come on, Well, that's actually tricky because Beckham he should 1683 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 3: be he should be going to the Hall of Fame, 1684 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,759 Speaker 3: but he just kind of his career he didn't. Injuries 1685 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 3: played a role, but he never reached the full potential 1686 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 3: of what he was, which was a beautiful, perfect wide 1687 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 3: receiver early in his career. So but I still like 1688 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 3: they love big name brands. They always have al loved it. 1689 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 3: His son Mark loves it. So that's my prediction. 1690 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 5: I'm going to go with the trade. I'm going to 1691 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,520 Speaker 5: go with Marshawn Lattimore go into the New England Patriots 1692 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 5: in a deal. I think Ron Wolf I feel better. 1693 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 5: It feels like there's an adult in the room now 1694 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 5: with the Patriots in terms of how to run a team. 1695 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 5: And I think their defense looks quite good on paper, 1696 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 5: and they're going to look for any value and they 1697 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 5: can afford it. 1698 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:09,639 Speaker 1: Like they didn't. 1699 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 5: They didn't find the right players to spend a lot 1700 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 5: of money. But Marshawn Lattimore, let's say you give up like. 1701 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: A when there's some there's something about Latimore hit hitting the. 1702 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 5: I think Latimore is going to get traded at some point. 1703 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 5: Uh maybe maybe what happened the next week, Maybe it 1704 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 5: would happened closer to the draft, but you might be 1705 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 5: able to get away with giving up like a third 1706 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,680 Speaker 5: round pick for Lattimore or maybe I don't know. 1707 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 1: You know what's going you know Greg's gonna nail this 1708 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,879 Speaker 1: and then ours are gonna go by the wayside. 1709 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 3: That's all. That's that's all. The earth is a new year, 1710 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 3: New Year. It's a new chance for us. How about 1711 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 3: I believe it was a draft class mate. Was Alva, 1712 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 3: Kamara and Latimore in the same class. 1713 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 1: I think that's right. 1714 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 3: Both that Mega twenty seventeen class that revitalized Sean Payton's 1715 01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 3: career in New Orleans. How about another Saints Oneamara up 1716 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 3: to Denver read team with Sean Payton, Peyton trying to 1717 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 3: trying to kind of get some elements that are familiar 1718 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 3: to him as he looks to reboot the machine posts 1719 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,280 Speaker 3: Russ truly in his vision, and it's not gonna cost 1720 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 3: you much because I think Kamorrow at this stage won't 1721 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 3: command something big, so like Kamara for a fifth round or. 1722 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,800 Speaker 1: Something like that, wow, fourth rounder. Maybe how about this one? 1723 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,960 Speaker 1: The g men and Justin Fields after a bunch of 1724 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: no one really wants them, we get it. Like at 1725 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 1: this point, I'm wondering if the Bears just hold on 1726 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 1: to him, it's like he's not a child. If they 1727 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: draft a rookie, they can coexist. And then when a 1728 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 1: team has like their star quarterback have his knee destroyed, 1729 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,679 Speaker 1: like in Week three, Justin Field's value goes up because 1730 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: right now his value is very low. But the g 1731 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 1: men feel or even the Patriots feel like a potential fit. 1732 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 1733 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 5: If I was the Bears and I don't get offered 1734 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 5: anything better than like a fourth and I feel shaky 1735 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 5: during the draft, then I would rather just keep Justin 1736 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 5: Fields and make everyone be a grown up and maybe 1737 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 5: he'll get traded later on. 1738 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 3: I think that's a good one. I don't know about 1739 01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 3: to the Giants because there just there aren't that many 1740 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 3: teams that make sense for Justin Fields. The Giants are 1741 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 3: done with Daniel Jones after this season. They get Drew Locke, 1742 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 3: but true Locke is it? But if you hold on 1743 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 3: to them, yeah, that makes sense. I think we'll be 1744 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,680 Speaker 3: telling if you see the Bears add another backup to 1745 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,519 Speaker 3: the room in the coming days and weeks, that they 1746 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 3: might be thinking about keeping Fields and then having someone 1747 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 3: in the building when they move fields. 1748 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,679 Speaker 1: Maybe in October you just can't have I think Justin 1749 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 1: Fields is a tricky QB two because any I think 1750 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 1: what fans love them. I know these teams don't seem 1751 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 1: to love them or something about them, but like teammates do. 1752 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 1: Teammates do? But like if Justin Fields is sitting behind 1753 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 1: any quarterback, that's struggling on any level. It's like there's 1754 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a problem for the coaching staff. 1755 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 6: We still got stuff out there, but not as much. 1756 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 6: It was fast. The insiders were talking, you know, as 1757 01:17:59,200 --> 01:17:59,719 Speaker 6: part of their. 1758 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,679 Speaker 3: Seemed today you were on the program today, did did 1759 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,800 Speaker 3: did they seem to let you in? 1760 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 4: Or was there was there any coldness to it? 1761 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Like? How was it? 1762 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,760 Speaker 5: I mean it was they let me in. Certainly they 1763 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 5: were friendly. I mean it was pretty much whatever interactions 1764 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 5: we had was on the air, because you know, it 1765 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,520 Speaker 5: wasn't too much before that. But yes, they were great, 1766 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 5: and they were talking about how this really was the 1767 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 5: fastest moving I don't know how they could prove this, 1768 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,759 Speaker 5: but the fastest moving free agency that had ever happened 1769 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 5: in terms of the most players and the most signings 1770 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:33,960 Speaker 5: coming off the board. 1771 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,640 Speaker 1: The faster fast. Yeah, because people have been tampering for 1772 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 1: like forty five days. I don't want to hear about 1773 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: this idea that that's you know, cone of silence until 1774 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: this false deadline is ushered in. 1775 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 5: I've got eleven players left off of my top one 1776 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 5: O one and that was the top one on one 1777 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 5: for Monday. If you had gone back to the original 1778 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 5: less to be way, way way. 1779 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,160 Speaker 1: People are tracking it at this at this pace, Greg, 1780 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,559 Speaker 1: I know they're looking at every transaction on the NFL 1781 01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,560 Speaker 1: dot com website. 1782 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 3: Didn't get him a chip, should have gotten into a 1783 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 3: super Bowl, but they got robbed by the officials. But 1784 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 3: that twenty seventeen Saints draft class Marshawn Lattimore first round, 1785 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 3: Ryan Ramcheck first round, Marcus Williams second round, Alvin Kamara 1786 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 3: third round, Ray Hendrickson, third round, Alex Anzeloni and the 1787 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 3: sixth pick. 1788 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 1: The Saints have also had a couple of disastrous first 1789 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,280 Speaker 1: round selections in. 1790 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,680 Speaker 6: That is that it really is an all time draft, ultimate. 1791 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,599 Speaker 1: Reset that whole organization with Drew Brees. 1792 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 5: Finally, I mean Hendrickson's the third round pick, Muhammed, Actually 1793 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 5: you meant just mentioned as this. Even the sixth round 1794 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,520 Speaker 5: pick had a nice career who ended up being in Indianapolis. 1795 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 1: But like that's it's a crazy draft. It's like Mickey 1796 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,679 Speaker 1: Loomis actually is focused on the team at Verse Junk 1797 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: it was back then. 1798 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 5: You know who's playing well right now? The Pelicans. I 1799 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 5: guess that's our time to. 1800 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, whenever the Pelicans come up. 1801 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 3: All right, thank you everybody, We'll be back on Friday 1802 01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 3: if something warrants it. 1803 01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,599 Speaker 1: But don't hold your breath. 1804 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,120 Speaker 4: It's gotta be big, gotta be. We had for president. 1805 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 6: We had a Deshaun Watson one a couple. 1806 01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Of years ago. He's not stealing my Friday. He's a 1807 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 1: call 1808 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:12,240 Speaker 7: H