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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. It is a Beating the Book podcast,
Speaker 1: week number thirteen and the National Football League. We are
Speaker 1: missing one of the pillars of the show currently. He
Speaker 1: will be joining us whenever he fucking gets around to it.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, uh, Todd Wishnev, who's betting college basketball currently,
Speaker 1: and apparently Will will Hill is the other pillar of
Speaker 1: the show. Apparently he doesn't prioritize things correct. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: it's got to be the only right.
Speaker 2: Well, you and I are wondering where he is, and
Speaker 2: then as we're wondering, hey, he's late or a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes after we're supposed to record. I get a
Speaker 2: text from him in our group chat play by play
Speaker 2: of the South Southern Illinois game down eight and we
Speaker 2: had a miss and a runout, and then the South
Speaker 2: ILLINOI guy each each other had the ball, and then
Speaker 2: we found so that wanted to get on the record.
Speaker 2: So that's the key play by play instance.
Speaker 1: And here he is, Oh, and look who decided to
Speaker 1: show up.
Speaker 3: God, the goddamn podcast was on Tuesday this week, and.
Speaker 4: This fucker over here in the right hand corner is.
Speaker 5: Texting me every ten seconds about the goddamn Southern Illinois Salukis.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what I'm supposed to do. So
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous. It's all your.
Speaker 1: Fault, God wish of everybody star of the Showtime docuseriies.
Speaker 5: Actually, you guys kill me. I have no preparation. You
Speaker 5: think physic's gonna kill me in a regular week, forget
Speaker 5: about it. Forget about it.
Speaker 4: I know nothing. I haven't even done my she yet.
Speaker 1: Will Hill at not V Will Hill on Twitter should
Speaker 1: have got more podcast. And then Todd wishnem from his
Speaker 1: mom's cork attic in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania at t wishnev and
Speaker 1: our rotating guest of the day, first time ever on
Speaker 1: the megapod, and I was joking with her. I said,
Speaker 1: she's finally reached the big time. She is on vison
Speaker 1: as the host of Money Moves weekdays at one pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: Let me get that right, No, twelve noon eastern, nine
Speaker 1: am Pacific, Money Moves, where she has multiple co hosts
Speaker 1: because there is not one co host that can contain her.
Speaker 1: And then you will see her on ESPN doing sideline
Speaker 1: reporting for college football. She even doesn't hockey Stormy, bon
Speaker 1: A TONI everybody on the show, how you doing, Stormy?
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 6: I'm great and I do finally feel like I've really
Speaker 6: made it now, So thank you and Todd. I was
Speaker 6: beginning to wonder if, like I was just bad vibes
Speaker 6: and you didn't want to talk to me. I didn't
Speaker 6: know what was happening here. So I'm glad that you
Speaker 6: were able to, you know, put your bias aside and say,
Speaker 6: you know what, I don't hate storm after all, I'm
Speaker 6: going to come on the show today really nice.
Speaker 4: I had nothing Stormy. I have nothing against you. I
Speaker 4: have nothing against Caitlyn Clark. I have nothing against Djene Carrington.
Speaker 5: I only have something against one person here, and that
Speaker 5: person's name is a will from Connecticut. That's all because
Speaker 5: you know, he gets me involved in all this college basketball.
Speaker 4: I haven't had a rest in one hundred days.
Speaker 5: Because there's been college basketball at ten o'clock in the
Speaker 5: morning every goddamn day, so I can't even get arrest.
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. I'm exhausted.
Speaker 2: Did you stay up for Dayton North Carolina, Todd because
Speaker 2: that looked.
Speaker 4: Like yeah until the last six minutes. I was exhausted.
Speaker 4: I fell asleep.
Speaker 2: I thought Dayton was up eighteen and a half and
Speaker 2: lost ninety two ninety that way, and I woke up
Speaker 2: to your text. This would be a good live over,
Speaker 2: I textas scored ninety two ninety it would have been
Speaker 2: live over. Damn hit the over in that one.
Speaker 4: That was awesome.
Speaker 1: Peace.
Speaker 5: I can't okay, I can't even create. Did Willy hit
Speaker 5: one and two last week with his Titans? And two
Speaker 5: and one?
Speaker 4: No? One and two? Okay? So at sixteen nineteen and one,
Speaker 4: for where.
Speaker 1: We're going to at you on your record keeping, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to win one and yeah, you and me
Speaker 1: were two and one and Will was one and two
Speaker 1: and for the season. I'm a half game behind you,
Speaker 1: all right, Todd, here's the it is now. It is
Speaker 1: now ten minutes after the hour. We have to be
Speaker 1: out by by fifty minutes from now.
Speaker 4: Okay, So okay, so it's going to be a speed deal, speed.
Speaker 1: Deal exactly early Thanksgiving podcast. All right, So we just
Speaker 1: went over the records. Just give the full records first,
Speaker 1: because you have to do that. Courts snographer of the show.
Speaker 1: Are you all prepared for that?
Speaker 5: No, I'm doing it right now. Gilly's nineteen sixteen and
Speaker 5: one after his two and one. I believe you did?
Speaker 5: You lost your teaser? Browns plus nine a half nine
Speaker 5: ers plus eight? Was that a winner or loser?
Speaker 1: Niners? That's a loser for me.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you go.
Speaker 5: Somehow you're two nine and one on your teasers. I'm
Speaker 5: not sure how. That's the way it is.
Speaker 4: The Dolphins.
Speaker 5: Willy won wh teaser, but he has a screwed up
Speaker 5: record from last week, so I'm not even gonna talk
Speaker 5: about his. It's probably like four to six and something.
Speaker 5: I hit my teaser, so I'm seven and five and
Speaker 5: I moved to twenty and sixteen Willie is sixteen nineteen
Speaker 5: and one. You are nineteen sixteen in one. The guest
Speaker 5: is eighteen seventeen in one. So I still have a
Speaker 5: half a game lead.
Speaker 1: As we move on half a game lead, I'm lurking, lurking,
Speaker 1: going for another Megapod championship. Okay, so we don't have
Speaker 1: the Thursday night game to worry about like we usually do,
Speaker 1: so we can x that part. But before we get
Speaker 1: to best bets, what about Dumbo of the week?
Speaker 7: Who?
Speaker 2: I think? It's easy? I think it's Tomlin with the
Speaker 2: way he botched his timeouts Thursday night, not calling that
Speaker 2: time out after the first down run, wasting the timeout
Speaker 2: on defense. The first time out he wasted because they
Speaker 2: weren't lined up properly, kicking a fifty nine yard field
Speaker 2: going to snow. Take your pick. I thought tom was
Speaker 2: a disaster the other night.
Speaker 1: I do too. Todd has a different pick, but it's
Speaker 1: not but I would agree with you it's Tomlin.
Speaker 4: What was my Dumbo? I didn't even have a Dumbo
Speaker 4: this week? Though? Dan, you don't have you.
Speaker 2: Talk about Dan Campbell throwing with golf two weeks ago
Speaker 2: with twenty nine attempts. If you want to reinabit.
Speaker 1: You have Antonio Pierce allowing Desmond Ridder to take a
Speaker 1: sack somehow. You blame that on Peers.
Speaker 5: No, I don't blame that. I just blame that on
Speaker 5: the Raiders organization. You know what, I'll blame that on
Speaker 5: the haircut of Mark Davis, because if you can or
Speaker 5: whatever his name is, what the If you can walk
Speaker 5: around with that haircut, you can obviously get coaching that
Speaker 5: allows you to get to the one yard line with
Speaker 5: eighteen seconds left and no timeouts and somehow not have
Speaker 5: your quarterback.
Speaker 4: No, he can't take a sack.
Speaker 5: Now, by the way, the game did it matter except
Speaker 5: for megapod records of course, because I had Raiders plus six.
Speaker 5: But the you know, it's just not professional football. It's
Speaker 5: not professional buttoned up what you have to do football
Speaker 5: from the half yard line with eighteen seconds if you're
Speaker 5: gonna there's just one thing you have to know.
Speaker 4: You can't take a sack. Ridder.
Speaker 5: I I mean, I know you don't know how to
Speaker 5: throw the ball. I watched you with the Bearcats and
Speaker 5: all you did is roll back and run for forty yards.
Speaker 4: You know you don't know how to throw the ball.
Speaker 4: We all know that, but do you know how to
Speaker 4: not take a sack ridder?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I still think by the way, then
Speaker 5: they don't even try to hurry up.
Speaker 4: They just like all stand there looking around, like, oh,
Speaker 4: what should we do? Now? The clock's running out? I
Speaker 4: guess should we do something? No? No, let's just end
Speaker 4: the game. Raiders football commitments to stupidity.
Speaker 6: As someone who had Broncos five and a half, I
Speaker 6: thought it was all but dead and losing my goddamn
Speaker 6: mind at that point as well. So unfortunately, I am
Speaker 6: slightly happy for your pain, just slightly happy for your pain.
Speaker 2: And before I almost got in right, he almost got
Speaker 2: the ball in on the play before and the review, remember, yeah.
Speaker 8: Story looking, we're looking at that from two different perspectives though,
Speaker 8: because I'm watching that unful of and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna freaking lose this game, unbelievable, And then somehow that
Speaker 8: that happens, and my life is made in that moment.
Speaker 1: And Antonio Pears used to live in my uh in
Speaker 1: my building here, and I never quite had the courage
Speaker 1: to call him out on his in game decisions. So
Speaker 1: he's gone next and I can.
Speaker 4: Talk about it.
Speaker 5: It's nice to know Stormy bets on games, unlike you
Speaker 5: know a lot of the vs.
Speaker 4: Personalities.
Speaker 1: This fucking guy Stormy as a as a person who
Speaker 1: actually gets to interview coaches and the like. I love
Speaker 1: that phrase and the like. Does it in any way
Speaker 1: when some dumb stuff happens on in a game on
Speaker 1: a Sunday or Saturday, do you temper your comments on
Speaker 1: Vson because you you think you might at some point
Speaker 1: have to interview this person.
Speaker 6: At times, yes, like I have been extremely critical of
Speaker 6: Mario crystaball and then I had to do the Miami
Speaker 6: Louisville game earlier this season.
Speaker 7: And as I'm doing as I'm.
Speaker 6: Doing prep for that game, I'm scrolling online and one
Speaker 6: of those send to news clips we have pops up
Speaker 6: at the bottom of this article and it's me going like,
Speaker 6: can Mario crystal Ball make a good decision? And it
Speaker 6: said it, and I'm like, if he reads any of
Speaker 6: the articles about himself, this is not going to go
Speaker 6: great for me in my team meetings this week. And
Speaker 6: so yeah, there have been times where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 6: maybe maybe I need to sell in a little bit here.
Speaker 6: It happens at times, not super often, but at times yes, I'm.
Speaker 7: Like, uh, maybe I should chill.
Speaker 4: By the way, Gilly, that's a great question.
Speaker 5: And I would have paid the rest of every one
Speaker 5: of my winning bets for the rest of the history
Speaker 5: of my life if store me at halftime would walk
Speaker 5: up to Mario crystaball and go So, Mario, if you
Speaker 5: get it to a point.
Speaker 4: Where you get take a knee, maybe taking me this time,
Speaker 4: what do you think I would I would have given
Speaker 4: her a billion dollars if she would have said that
Speaker 4: to him.
Speaker 9: Also, I'm still just shook by the fact that after
Speaker 9: so it happened to him multiple times. But the fact
Speaker 9: that it happens against Georgia Tech last year, and then
Speaker 9: Georgia Tech is the l they take this year. How
Speaker 9: you don't just try to like come back with a
Speaker 9: vengeance in that game, I don't know. And so, yeah,
Speaker 9: lots of stuff. But although don't clip this for Mario,
Speaker 9: I can't take it. Don't clip this for Mario.
Speaker 1: I do I do die. Just generally, like when the
Speaker 1: coach is running off the field at halftime and they're
Speaker 1: getting destroyed, like you know, twenty seven and nothing or something.
Speaker 1: I just wish that. I just wish that a coach
Speaker 1: would have would be honest, like they're talking to the
Speaker 1: coaches head like what do you gotta do to maintain this?
Speaker 1: Like oh, there are you know? And then the coach
Speaker 1: just goes, hey, let's be honest. They're a sorry football
Speaker 1: team on the other side, like you just wish for
Speaker 1: that honesty that you never get.
Speaker 4: They're such a leaf question.
Speaker 5: If Stormy asked like a real question instead of some
Speaker 5: canned question that every single one of those people like
Speaker 5: Stormy has to ask and not.
Speaker 1: Like you know, can questions, don't put her in that mix.
Speaker 5: I'm okay, but you know what I'm saying, Stormy's not
Speaker 5: allowed to be caustic, you know what I mean. If
Speaker 5: Stormy was allowed to be caustic, that would be just
Speaker 5: so warming to the cackles of my heart because it
Speaker 5: would be like what we really feel like if she
Speaker 5: walked up to Luke Fickle and said, hey, Louke, don't
Speaker 5: put a walk on on you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: just like.
Speaker 4: Stuck it to them. You know, they'd be so much fun.
Speaker 7: See.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, if I want another interview again, I have to
Speaker 6: play the game a little bit sore. There is that
Speaker 6: element to it, certainly, but It is funny you say
Speaker 6: that because I can't tell you how many times like
Speaker 6: you think of what you really would like to ask,
Speaker 6: and at the end of the day you asked the
Speaker 6: question that it's going to be able to maintain your
Speaker 6: relationship and everything's fine, but still one that ideally, if
Speaker 6: they answer it properly and don't just say whatever they
Speaker 6: want to say, would be something that the bands would.
Speaker 7: Want to know.
Speaker 6: But more often than not, they're just going to answer
Speaker 6: however they want what the question is, which is a
Speaker 6: little bit frustrating and why those in game interviews aren't
Speaker 6: the most fun part of my job. I'll be transparent,
Speaker 6: I don't think that big picture, a lot of audiences
Speaker 6: love them, but it's great in the moments when you
Speaker 6: do get a really like visceral reaction from someone, and
Speaker 6: every now and then we do get those moments, which
Speaker 6: is why we continue to do them.
Speaker 1: You know, you asked that us Sataki from BYU. You
Speaker 1: asked him a dance question and he went with it,
Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty brave. Right like that you
Speaker 1: went with the question. I was like, Oh, you might
Speaker 1: have had some idea that he would have gone with it.
Speaker 6: I would imagine well, he's a coach that I've covered
Speaker 6: a ton of BYU over the last few years, and
Speaker 6: so he and I have a very good relationship where
Speaker 6: like I feel like I know that he's going to
Speaker 6: give me something instead of just like moving on to
Speaker 6: the next thing or saying goodbye.
Speaker 7: Yeah. That's a good part.
Speaker 6: Of what we do too, though, is that there are
Speaker 6: some coaches that you build good relationships with.
Speaker 7: I'm still working on Mario, but Kilanie and I have
Speaker 7: a good one.
Speaker 1: So so last thing, because I don't get to ask
Speaker 1: you this because Stormy and I see each other for
Speaker 1: three and a half minutes every day Monday through Friday,
Speaker 1: two and a half minutes of which I feel terrible
Speaker 1: that I'm in the studio and she has to prepare
Speaker 1: for a show. So you don't have to answer this.
Speaker 1: But if you could wave the magic wand and you
Speaker 1: were well, you were let's say you were forced to
Speaker 1: do only one of your jobs, it's a terrible question.
Speaker 1: You're not required to answer this.
Speaker 7: I can't answer that.
Speaker 1: I can't answer that.
Speaker 7: I know I do feel really, I do feel really fortunate.
Speaker 6: So gil like I love the blend of what I
Speaker 6: get to do now because I get to be like
Speaker 6: live event and establish relationships with coaches and players and
Speaker 6: get to have that kind of adrenaline filled thing for work.
Speaker 6: But I also love studio and I have been somebody
Speaker 6: that has been involved in betting since I was a
Speaker 6: small child growing up in Las Vegas, and my family
Speaker 6: ties to the betting world, and I don't think that
Speaker 6: I could handle life without it, Like I literally learned betting,
Speaker 6: learned sports through the lens of betting. So it's an
Speaker 6: impossible question because I love them both so much and
Speaker 6: I wouldn't trade either one of them for the world.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad you added that detail because that is
Speaker 1: the the most uh that is the most important detail
Speaker 1: of your story, I think for what you do professionally,
Speaker 1: because you have done it, you know, you've known this
Speaker 1: for your whole life. It comes across on air, and
Speaker 1: people understand authenticity when they see it. There's no space
Speaker 1: like betting where people can can immediately sniff out a fraud, right,
Speaker 1: and you are so not that, And I think it
Speaker 1: all comes from that back. It has to.
Speaker 2: She gave a coach speak answer there though that was
Speaker 2: like the coaches she interviews right there, that we're just
Speaker 2: going to not turn the ball over and you know,
Speaker 2: run the ball in the second half.
Speaker 1: That kind of answer.
Speaker 6: It's all about execution, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Todd.
Speaker 1: Last thing before best Bets, any endgame you'd like to
Speaker 1: share with the with your audience, because this is your podcast, after.
Speaker 4: All, there was there was some good.
Speaker 5: I mean, the the only one that I'll really talk
Speaker 5: I mean, this is the basic one because I didn't
Speaker 5: really get a good chance to uh to prepare, but
Speaker 5: the I had a second leg of my parley with
Speaker 5: San Diego. I'm sorry with the Chargers last night plus
Speaker 5: eight and a half and then the the they got
Speaker 5: punted all the way. Ravens got punted down to about
Speaker 5: the ten yard line. It's about three and a half
Speaker 5: minutes left in the first half. We've talked out about
Speaker 5: about ad nauseum, that you can get the two for
Speaker 5: one double dip possession, and it just felt like to
Speaker 5: me the game was shifting there. The Chargers kind of
Speaker 5: had them on their heels early, and it just felt
Speaker 5: like to me, oh my gosh, the Ravens are starting
Speaker 5: to come on and they're going to get two possessions.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 5: Take the Ravens money line and just go for the
Speaker 5: eight and a half point middle, and of course it
Speaker 5: all worked out when we got the flags late in
Speaker 5: the game and got the back door for a change,
Speaker 5: even though that was a very difficult back door for Herbert.
Speaker 5: I mean, I see these I see these other garbage
Speaker 5: quarterbacks go right down the field when I when I
Speaker 5: never need a back door, like for instance, colerad State,
Speaker 5: when we had the Fresno State.
Speaker 4: By fourteen, Me and Gilly in the middle of.
Speaker 3: Forty seconds left Colorado State's ball at their own thirty five,
Speaker 3: no timeouts, It's impossible for them to get a touchdown,
Speaker 3: and they throw it over to a middle to a
Speaker 3: guy who's slow, and he's running and he's running and
Speaker 3: he's running and they're running after him, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: come on, please come And then somehow we love that.
Speaker 1: Have you Have you ever seen me that pissed off
Speaker 1: about a bet before?
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 1: Okay, by the way, two of those. Just to follow
Speaker 1: up on that, I had a little Herbert thing on
Speaker 1: a numbers game on the radio side this morning. I
Speaker 1: think he's an interest with Drew Dinsick. I think he's
Speaker 1: an interesting debate currently because Drew was of the he's
Speaker 1: good he's not elite crowd, and I sort of I
Speaker 1: sort of pushed back a little on that, but I
Speaker 1: get what he's saying because I had him eighth when
Speaker 1: we did quarterback rankings, for whatever that's worth, and I
Speaker 1: said he was about a year a way from having
Speaker 1: a reputation. So I think he's about that, Like he's
Speaker 1: on the doorstep of greatness, but also on the doorstep
Speaker 1: of he better get some stuff, you know, accomplished laden
Speaker 1: games from time to time, and then.
Speaker 2: Get some receivers. Just wait till he gets well guys
Speaker 2: that can catch the ball, because McConkie can catch it.
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson was basically like, if I don't want to
Speaker 2: say point shaving, but that was an unaspiring performance last night.
Speaker 1: It was boys Tamy and no. I mean, but he
Speaker 1: did have good Keenan Allen for all those years too.
Speaker 1: I know you you dismissed that, but he did and
Speaker 1: he had Mike Williams who ended up being good, so
Speaker 1: it's not like he didn't have players. What was the
Speaker 1: other thing, Oh, she what was the other thing you
Speaker 1: just mentioned, Tom, I just want to follow up on.
Speaker 1: It was Herbert and then and then the other thing
Speaker 1: I did this morning is I went after the anti
Speaker 1: analytics crowd. I don't know if you heard that will
Speaker 1: at all. Where it's when when the fourth downs don't work,
Speaker 1: you hear them chirping every day, but when they work,
Speaker 1: not a peep, not a peep from these people. And
Speaker 1: the Ravens don't win that game unless they go for
Speaker 1: it on four down, when they did multiple times from
Speaker 1: their own sixteen once and the counter of it, Oh
Speaker 1: well they have Derrick Henry. That was Mark Andrews who
Speaker 1: got that. So I just feel like that's something that
Speaker 1: needs to be said. Sometimes.
Speaker 2: That was smart too, because if they'd gotten stopped, they
Speaker 2: if they had not gotten it, okay, it's a disaster.
Speaker 2: Chargers get a field goal, probably be a touchdown, but
Speaker 2: then the Ravens would have gotten the ball back, so
Speaker 2: that left the Chargers no time on the other end.
Speaker 2: That was a kind of a tricky maneuver there, a
Speaker 2: clever maneuver.
Speaker 1: With the clock.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there were three for three on fourth down for
Speaker 6: the game, though, like important stuff.
Speaker 1: Three for three. One was from their sixteen and the
Speaker 1: other was from their thirty nine. One of the others
Speaker 1: was from their thirty nine. Okay, best bets time, right,
Speaker 1: because we don't have to do Thursday. All right, Stormy,
Speaker 1: you get honors, you get to give your first best
Speaker 1: bet of three here.
Speaker 6: Okay, So I mentioned that I had the Broncos last week,
Speaker 6: and I I hope that I'm not going to hate
Speaker 6: myself for going back to the well laying five and
Speaker 6: a half with them again against the Browns this week.
Speaker 7: It's come down.
Speaker 6: There's like seven, maybe over seven at some places initially.
Speaker 6: But so the Browns win this snowball game and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, everybody thinks they're going to be good again,
Speaker 6: and I just disagree. I think Jameis Winston is a
Speaker 6: hyper volatile player. Cleveland's turnover differential is bottom five in
Speaker 6: the NFL, and I think that the way the Broncos
Speaker 6: have been playing lately, they're going to be able to
Speaker 6: capitalize on those moments like this. Boon Nick's ascension is
Speaker 6: pretty real to me, and the way that they've been
Speaker 6: playing lately, he's not turning over the football last three games,
Speaker 6: eight touchdowns, no picks. They've been a great cover team
Speaker 6: all year, even in the favorites role. So my first
Speaker 6: rest bet and I hope I just don't hate myself
Speaker 6: for this is Denver minus five and a half against Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I think we give her five here, don't we kind
Speaker 1: of even, isn't.
Speaker 4: I see some five and some five and a half.
Speaker 7: You guys, oh, we can take five. I'll take five,
Speaker 7: give me five.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing as many fives. Okay, so we'll give all right,
Speaker 1: Denver minus five? Monday night, Dotty? What's your first? Ah?
Speaker 5: Man, I guess I'm gonna go with what do you
Speaker 5: have for the Titans Jaguars game?
Speaker 2: They're not playing each other, so I'm sorry it's not
Speaker 2: the Titans.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, not the Titans commanders. I'm sorry, Titans commanders.
Speaker 2: Titans and a half?
Speaker 1: Uh five and a half? Yeah? And the total forty
Speaker 1: four and a half? Okay, give me overrus will.
Speaker 4: Give me no. I just didn't see the total total
Speaker 4: over jon A.
Speaker 5: Carrington over here, okay, over forty four and a half
Speaker 5: with the Titans. I am going over the total. I
Speaker 5: got the miracle over in game on the Washington game.
Speaker 5: That really was maybe the most we didn't even talk
Speaker 5: about that game, but I mean how I I've just
Speaker 5: I thought I had no chance to even win. I
Speaker 5: had a reduced number because I had an end game
Speaker 5: at over thirty nine. All of a sudden I didn't
Speaker 5: even see Turpin and do what he did, And all
Speaker 5: of a sudden I see him running down the field.
Speaker 5: I'm like, is that for real? Is that like a
Speaker 5: replay of something? He's runs for a touchdown? And then
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, well that game's over. Then then then
Speaker 5: the next thing I see as mclaurin's running down the
Speaker 5: how do you throw the ball inside six guys and
Speaker 5: somehow run I've never seen that before my entire life.
Speaker 5: And then to miss point unbelievable. And then I immediately
Speaker 5: texted you guys, this reminds me of the time the
Speaker 5: Saints got to Hail Mary at the end of a
Speaker 5: game and missed the short extra point in a similar
Speaker 5: situation to tie the game.
Speaker 4: I immediately thought of that. But anyways, you know.
Speaker 1: That game, that Skins game was ten to nine at
Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter ten to nine.
Speaker 6: Doesn't anybody anybody who had the under in that game
Speaker 6: is reading Don't Kill Yourself books today like that?
Speaker 7: It was ridiculous, ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It was horrible. But when Terry McLaurin, when Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: was running down the field to the end zone. I
Speaker 1: can't even explain to you what was happening inside of
Speaker 1: my brain, just euphoria must have been like, I just
Speaker 1: don't know how to describe the field to yourself though.
Speaker 4: Did you think to yourself, you know this kick or
Speaker 4: missed an extra point before before he.
Speaker 1: Kicked immediately, Yeah, immediately, I'm like that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. He put his plant.
Speaker 1: Foot like right next to the football. He had no chance.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: This is why I say NFL is better than any
Speaker 5: reality Bachelorette, Bachelor nonsense that ladies have. You know, they
Speaker 5: love to watch the drama and the drama. This drama
Speaker 5: in the NFL is better than any drama of the
Speaker 5: Bachelor that you're ever going to see the guy missing
Speaker 5: the extra point anyways.
Speaker 1: Todd, you should you should go on Todd. You should
Speaker 1: go on Love Is Blind on Netflix. You should totally
Speaker 1: go on that show.
Speaker 4: I'll go on Love His Blind.
Speaker 1: You know you will pull them, God, you will pull
Speaker 1: the left and right. You should go on that show.
Speaker 1: Totally go on it.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 5: Over forty four and a half Titans, The Commander's Defense,
Speaker 5: The Commander's defense is back to the Commander's defense of
Speaker 5: ye early in the season, back in the days if
Speaker 5: we remember them when there was no punting in any
Speaker 5: of their games and their offense.
Speaker 4: It's the Titans, you know, I know everyone.
Speaker 5: The Titans are good on defense. I don't see it.
Speaker 5: Give me over forty four and a half in the Titans, Washington, please.
Speaker 4: I.
Speaker 2: Really Tennessee Titans plus five and a half. Oh, I
Speaker 2: got one little taste of victory. I got one little
Speaker 2: taste of victory with these Titans, and I am back
Speaker 2: for more. I have hooked on this shitty fucking team.
Speaker 2: I can't quit them. I admit it's odd. It's a
Speaker 2: weird little fetish I have, but I'm gonna go back
Speaker 2: to them. I think their defensive line is good. I
Speaker 2: don't know how good Washington's offensive line is. Daniels is
Speaker 2: it rookie regression? Is a rookie wall?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Kingsbury is the injury is It's some combination of all
Speaker 2: these things. Levis is quiet. I know he threw a
Speaker 2: pick six the other day, but he's quietly played okay.
Speaker 2: And they really dominated the Texans from scrimage the other day.
Speaker 2: They held the Texans to eleven first downs in like
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty yards. They kicked the Texans ass
Speaker 2: that game, and I was probably on you know, I
Speaker 2: probably deserved better in terms of the total because the
Speaker 2: Texans did nothing offensively, and when you go over my
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, you can't say you should have won it.
Speaker 2: But I like the Texans defense. I think Levis has
Speaker 2: played better. Maybe Washington wins the game by a field goal,
Speaker 2: but I will take the Titans plus five and a half.
Speaker 6: I did not have Will Levis out playing C. J.
Speaker 6: Stroud on my bank on my Bengo card last week.
Speaker 6: But crazy, crazy.
Speaker 7: We worried, we worried about I can't do it. I
Speaker 7: can't get there.
Speaker 1: I have said a couple of times this year on
Speaker 1: the show, I see value on the Titans. There's no
Speaker 1: chance I'm taking them. Well, yeah, we worried about, like.
Speaker 6: We want to bet them, we want, we want to
Speaker 6: bet them every single week, but they just do your
Speaker 6: dirty every week.
Speaker 7: So I'm so glad will you cash, and I hope
Speaker 7: you do again this week. I just can't stand them.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't count on with them.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Stroud, Yes, I think you have to be.
Speaker 1: Were we more worried about c J. Stroud or Jaden
Speaker 1: Daniels but.
Speaker 4: They don't block for him? See first of all Daydon
Speaker 4: Daniels is just injured. CJ. Stroud. Nobody blocks on the
Speaker 4: Houston Texans. Part of football, if I remember it correctly,
Speaker 4: is you must block the other team otherwise your football
Speaker 4: players cannot execute said plays. So I don't think it's
Speaker 4: Stroud's problem. I think it's the goddamn people can't block.
Speaker 4: And on the other side, Jayden Daniels is just turt Still,
Speaker 4: that's all.
Speaker 1: I think that's true. Sorry, Mint, Okay, mine is my
Speaker 1: first is this is what I like the best on
Speaker 1: guessing lines on Monday Thursday night in Green Bay the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, Todd last you checked on your football? Does
Speaker 1: myami play well in cold weather?
Speaker 5: Historically pre Pants plays well when you're eating turkey and
Speaker 5: stuffing in cranberry capri Pants looks at his men you
Speaker 5: and somehow they get the cover.
Speaker 4: But I'm not taking that so good.
Speaker 1: On Green Bay.
Speaker 7: I'm going to say you're.
Speaker 1: On Green Bays mis three.
Speaker 2: Still, I got three and a half.
Speaker 5: A lot of threes, I see, I see even a
Speaker 5: half seem Yeah.
Speaker 2: I see three and a half. And I also see
Speaker 2: a keister shot for anyone who took the nineteen and
Speaker 2: a half in game with San Francisco and that college basketball.
Speaker 2: Oh that was brutal.
Speaker 5: Oh seventeen and a half last time they were up
Speaker 5: twenty No, it's seventeen and a half.
Speaker 4: Oh that's seventeen and a half.
Speaker 5: They were up twenty four and only up sixteen at
Speaker 5: half somehow, jeez, so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So what is it officially three or three and a half?
Speaker 5: I think give him the three Willy, just in the
Speaker 5: in the in the spere to thank giving. You know,
Speaker 5: it is a holiday that everyone can enjoy, no matter
Speaker 5: of their political persuasions.
Speaker 4: So let's give them the three.
Speaker 1: Three baby, thank you for being more honest than Will.
Speaker 1: I'm all about green Bay. I think Miami runs into
Speaker 1: the weather here. It's not that simple. But I guessed
Speaker 1: that this would be four, and last week the game
Speaker 1: I liked the best was the Ravens. I thought that
Speaker 1: game would be four. It was lower than three. This
Speaker 1: is a similar situation, although it is three and not
Speaker 1: two and a half. Here. I just think Green Bay's
Speaker 1: a better football team. I think Miami beats up on
Speaker 1: lesser opponents. I think they've met their match here. I'll
Speaker 1: take the Packers Thursday night or my first we snaking
Speaker 1: do I do a second here? You can go and
Speaker 1: snake ye number two second best bet. This is where
Speaker 1: it gets interesting because I like four games and I
Speaker 1: can't decide which two to pick. Is my second and third.
Speaker 1: Got to take the Bengals Bengals number two. That's a
Speaker 1: two and a half. Let's take the Bengals. I think
Speaker 1: the Mike Tomlin Magic Beans thing is about to run out.
Speaker 1: It already did start last week. But I think I
Speaker 1: think the Bengals get a much needed win here at
Speaker 1: home division game. Bengals are playing for their playoff lives,
Speaker 1: They're still mathematically in it, and I think Pittsburgh has
Speaker 1: gotten the best of most outcomes this year and not
Speaker 1: really the type of thing that's sustainable. I think most
Speaker 1: people would would think that's not an outlandish take on them.
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals will actually score a ton of
Speaker 1: points on them, and I don't think Russell Wilson in
Speaker 1: the moon Ball can keep pace. So I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Bengals minus two and a half. Here is two
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: Acceptable, Todd, you're seeing enough two and a half.
Speaker 4: I mean I think he's I think he's already on
Speaker 4: the on the two. But we can.
Speaker 3: We can give it Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: Well, it doesn't matter because the stores are going to
Speaker 5: open up a can of wool pass in that. All
Speaker 5: he does is this guy doesn't know that we couldn't
Speaker 5: see through the snow and that otherwise we had to
Speaker 5: run our tom Win magic and had another w So
Speaker 5: there's nothing to worry about here. I was down there
Speaker 5: and I saw all the guys and we all talked
Speaker 5: it over. It's there's no problem here. Stores cover no problem.
Speaker 5: We can give them any number. Willie alternate dying stares.
Speaker 1: What percentage of people from Pittsburgh talk like that?
Speaker 4: I would say seventy?
Speaker 1: That's skinny. How did you avoid that? How did you
Speaker 1: not end up talking like that?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: Because I'm not one of them Neanderthals, and that I
Speaker 5: mean I went down a trio a sengalg and that
Speaker 5: they weren't talking like that.
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know.
Speaker 1: Talk.
Speaker 7: Do you see that show on HBO the Mayor of Easttown?
Speaker 7: Did you see that? By chance?
Speaker 4: No? What is that?
Speaker 6: It's an HBO show, but it's like based in that area,
Speaker 6: and Kate Winslet being Brittany doing that accent is very
Speaker 6: very interesting to hear.
Speaker 7: It's very uncomfortable to listen to.
Speaker 4: Was she able to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I forgot.
Speaker 7: YouTube or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Did she do a really good show?
Speaker 6: Well, like, I couldn't take it seriously. So for as
Speaker 6: good as the show was, every time that she spoke,
Speaker 6: I was just like, I can't do it.
Speaker 7: I can't.
Speaker 5: Kid my kid, I kid my insurre fan. Some some
Speaker 5: guy came in a book the other day. He goes, oh,
Speaker 5: you know I love that when you do that accident,
Speaker 5: and I said yeah. He goes, yeah, it's crazy how
Speaker 5: people talk it at and I was like, uh. I
Speaker 5: was like, I mean he wasn't really talking like that
Speaker 5: to be fair, but but I but I was like,
Speaker 5: I want you to know I don't do that.
Speaker 4: That's not to mock those people. I love those people.
Speaker 5: Those are my stiller people, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: So I'm not mocking them at all. I could talk
Speaker 5: ends her all day. I could go to the Dovos
Speaker 5: Economic Summit down in Switzerland talk like this, and I'd
Speaker 5: be like saying, look we have to look at inflation
Speaker 5: rates and that otherwise we got new problems.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Was Tod was very disappointed at the serious nature of
Speaker 1: last week's podcast. Felt like it was like a Davos
Speaker 1: political reference Willie number two.
Speaker 4: Well, if we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna fudge the lines and make the green Bay line three,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lay up with three lines.
Speaker 10: All of.
Speaker 2: You mentioned two in the cold. Give me a break.
Speaker 2: We've seen this movie before. In a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins are a better's best friend because they're so predictable,
Speaker 2: like last week, and I probably should have, you know,
Speaker 2: been on them last week against the Patriots, the Raiders.
Speaker 2: They kill these teams. They put up their thirty plus points. Uh,
Speaker 2: Capri pants runs up the score, he covers, and they're effective.
Speaker 2: When you put him outdoors in the cold. It's not
Speaker 2: now maybe, Uh, this is a new leaf for two.
Speaker 2: I know he's been very adamantant. I want to prove
Speaker 2: that the hater's wrong. I want to show I.
Speaker 4: Can prove it.
Speaker 2: I can you win in the cold. Got to see
Speaker 2: it to believe it. I like green Bay here.
Speaker 1: Why does Lar call him the DJ? Why does Lombardi
Speaker 1: call uh?
Speaker 2: He looks like a DJ at one of the night
Speaker 2: clubs or something.
Speaker 5: He kind of does look like a DJ, though, I'll
Speaker 5: be honest with although most DJs don't wear a prepants,
Speaker 5: so that's that's another question. I don't even know many
Speaker 5: people who ever wear caprepants in any setting really from
Speaker 5: a from a mask.
Speaker 1: It comes in and out of fashion, in and out
Speaker 1: of fashion.
Speaker 2: Probably be too cold for the capris on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's yeah, store me. You get your second
Speaker 1: and third here.
Speaker 4: No, no, it's fine.
Speaker 6: I work with pre pants in middle in middle school,
Speaker 6: but ever since, Yeah, Todd, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, I'm sorry I skipped Todd.
Speaker 4: You just skip me.
Speaker 5: And and it's funny because as you skip me, I
Speaker 5: was hearing something.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's coming in here.
Speaker 5: Yes, twenty six seventeen twelve seconds to play Miami down
Speaker 5: nine at the Green Bay eight yard line.
Speaker 4: Till it rolls out. He's gonna he's gotta run it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get up to the pilon touchop Why have
Speaker 1: somehow I.
Speaker 4: Have the covers? Wow, I didn't even see that one.
Speaker 1: Coviing, thank you, thank you for including the pylon once again,
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 4: They would buy too.
Speaker 2: But before Todd goes, can I just quickly ask the
Speaker 2: panel something Joe Buck in a Monday night game as
Speaker 2: the Chargers are about to kick the extra point at
Speaker 2: the end of the game to cut it to seven,
Speaker 2: He goes, this is an extra point that a lot
Speaker 2: of people are going to have their eye on.
Speaker 4: What was he alluding to?
Speaker 2: Was he alluding to?
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Tried to put like an al Michael's cool like reference
Speaker 2: the spread in the subtle way, but it didn't involve
Speaker 2: the spread. Some people like, well, the liveline was seven hours,
Speaker 2: like Joe Buck's not referencing the liveline. That was very
Speaker 2: strange to me.
Speaker 1: I thought teasers too. It is the only thing that
Speaker 1: made sense, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say one of my proudest broadcasting moments
Speaker 6: of the year no one will know about. So I'm
Speaker 6: gonna say it here so we can get there, because
Speaker 6: it's a huge pet peeve of mine when broadcasters don't
Speaker 6: know the spread in games. I think at this point
Speaker 6: in the game, like, it's unacceptable. But I did the
Speaker 6: Texas A and M Missouri game earlier this season. It's
Speaker 6: a blowout A and M's crushing Miszoo, but a late
Speaker 6: field goal that means nothing for Missouri ends up putting
Speaker 6: the total over, and I like got and talked back
Speaker 6: with my producer and I was like, well, that's the over.
Speaker 6: And then he got in Joe testa tour's ear and
Speaker 6: he said important to some, and I was like, let's go.
Speaker 7: I was very good.
Speaker 4: Joe tested toour never said him, but he said important
Speaker 4: to some.
Speaker 5: Holy Cow.
Speaker 4: Was an unwell believable goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's too much man.
Speaker 7: He's a very excitable man, very excitable.
Speaker 1: I do agree with what you said there, though, Stormy,
Speaker 1: like it is no longer cute to not know the
Speaker 1: spread right like people. I think there's still a too
Speaker 1: cool for school crowd that thinks it's cool not to
Speaker 1: know it, like not to be above gambling. It's not
Speaker 1: you at all, Like you have to know that. It's
Speaker 1: that or basics, Todd.
Speaker 5: I think it's why everyone's watching the games. But anyways, Um,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go down to what do you guys have
Speaker 5: for the total in the Buccaneers against the Panthers.
Speaker 1: That would be well, which way are you going?
Speaker 4: That would be.
Speaker 1: Forty six and a half, sir.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna go up, up and over the forty
Speaker 5: six and a half in the Bucks game. I tried
Speaker 5: to go over with the Bucks against Tommy DeVito because
Speaker 5: I thought even Tommy DeVito would be able to move
Speaker 5: it on the Bucks, and the Bucks moved and I
Speaker 5: should have won. They were inside the ten yard line
Speaker 5: a bunch of times, there was fumbled, There was all
Speaker 5: kinds of high jinks. But anyways, I like over forty
Speaker 5: six and a half in the Buccaneers game because here's
Speaker 5: the thing. The Buccaneers are moving the ball against everybody.
Speaker 5: They're a great over team this year because they move
Speaker 5: it and they have a commitment to no defense. They
Speaker 5: do not like defense. Just because they held to Hamid
Speaker 5: Vida to seven points means nothing to me. And all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, little Bryce Young, I don't know whether
Speaker 5: he looked at the Chase Daniels film or what he did,
Speaker 5: but all of a sudden, he's starting to play a
Speaker 5: little bit like a football player. So I'm like, against
Speaker 5: the Buccaneers, who have a horrible defense, why couldn't we
Speaker 5: get one of those thirty eight thirty three eighteen games
Speaker 5: or some nonsense like that, where the you know, the
Speaker 5: Bucks get their big points and Carolina just gets you
Speaker 5: a little something extra and you get to over forty
Speaker 5: six and a half. So give me the over forty
Speaker 5: six and a half in the Buccaneers. And boy, wasn't
Speaker 5: that a little bit of a sweat for old mahomies
Speaker 5: at twenty seven?
Speaker 1: All, oh, my homies, Storm you got two.
Speaker 7: Here also real quickly.
Speaker 6: And these aren't ats numbers where I just pulled up
Speaker 6: my notes from the show today, since you guys have
Speaker 6: all the Packers love for the Dolphins, it's eleven straight
Speaker 6: games in sub forty degree tens to kickoff that they
Speaker 6: have lost their last win with twenty sixteen and twas
Speaker 6: specifically zero and four in those conditions fifty five percent completions,
Speaker 6: four touchdowns, five picks QBR of twenty one.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, wait, so what are those conditions again? What is
Speaker 1: the parameter?
Speaker 7: Sub forty degree ten set kickoff?
Speaker 1: Ub forty? Okay, sub forty there you go, thank you
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm totally on that.
Speaker 7: Next one, next one for me, guys, here we go.
Speaker 1: Uh, she's doing charge's doing stretches.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Chargers minus one and a half is what I'm
Speaker 6: seeing largely.
Speaker 7: In Atlanta.
Speaker 6: I feel like even with the Falcons coming off the
Speaker 6: by There is nothing about them that makes me like them.
Speaker 6: Their offense can't score, defense can't stop a nosebleed. I
Speaker 6: think that LA should bounce back and in by a
Speaker 6: field goal or more.
Speaker 4: Thoughts Co sign.
Speaker 1: I don't have that, but I have no problem with that.
Speaker 4: Really, is that the number one and a half?
Speaker 2: I see?
Speaker 1: Well that I see twos?
Speaker 4: So yeah, okay, LA Chargers minus one and a half.
Speaker 4: I mean Atlanta.
Speaker 5: See Atlanta is the kind of team that every when
Speaker 5: they look good, then they play bad. When they look bad,
Speaker 5: then they play good. That's what I That's the only
Speaker 5: thing I'd be worried about is they're finally due for
Speaker 5: one of their turnarounds and they decide, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 5: play good for a change.
Speaker 4: But I mean off the normalcy. Obviously, I think the
Speaker 4: Chargers are better than the Falcons.
Speaker 7: Well, prayers up for your girl. We can only dream.
Speaker 7: We can only hope to lose money this week.
Speaker 1: Layers up.
Speaker 6: I have to go again, yes, ma'am. Okay, this one
Speaker 6: I went back before I'm over thirty. Now I can
Speaker 6: be mammed. It was when I was doing college football
Speaker 6: games and I was like twenty three years old, when
Speaker 6: these other athletes who are also twenty three or are
Speaker 6: man made. That's when it was weird. Now it's acceptable, good, ma'am.
Speaker 5: We just I just want to think Jesus that I
Speaker 5: was able to get the ball in on third and five.
Speaker 5: I know Jesus is not great in long yardage, and
Speaker 5: that's why I got to thank him so much, because
Speaker 5: for him to get me there long yardage.
Speaker 4: I just got to say, hats off to Jesus.
Speaker 7: Jesus took the wheale. He did, he really did. But
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 6: I do get mamned a lot now, so I'm used
Speaker 6: to it. It's more normal this. You guys are probably
Speaker 6: gonna hate this.
Speaker 8: I know it.
Speaker 6: I already know you're gonna hate this. But I love
Speaker 6: it and I can't get out of my own way sometimes.
Speaker 6: So I'm going over in the Lions Bears game on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 6: that Lions, because who wants an over on Thanksgiving? First
Speaker 6: of all, and a number that's I think forty eight
Speaker 6: and a half right now. But I don't think anything
Speaker 6: that's going to slow down the freight train. Really, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 6: I'm very pleasantly surprised by this. I don't think anything's
Speaker 6: gonna slow down the freight train that is the Lions
Speaker 6: offense right now. They've been particularly good at home, forty
Speaker 6: plus points themselves in each of their last three home games.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that's what's going to happen here, but.
Speaker 6: Paired with a Bears offense that's improving and like Caleb
Speaker 6: Williams has actually looking more like USC Caleb Williams since
Speaker 6: Shane Waldron's been fired, I think we got to get
Speaker 6: a lot of points in this game.
Speaker 7: I'm rolling with the over. I see forty eight and
Speaker 7: a half? What do you guys have?
Speaker 5: And Dan Campbell is going to do unlimited If he
Speaker 5: does unlimited wings on a regular day on Thanksgiving, which
Speaker 5: is a food day, he's really going heavy.
Speaker 4: You know, to run up.
Speaker 7: Have you guys ever had it tur duck.
Speaker 11: In by the way, No way amazing though, No, it's good,
Speaker 11: neither of I I need to know, like if it's
Speaker 11: actually good or not because it looks it looks intense
Speaker 11: in the best way, but I've never had the pleasure.
Speaker 1: What exactly is it? Though? What are they doing?
Speaker 2: He does chicken combined?
Speaker 1: I know combined, but what's the combining? What are we
Speaker 1: really talking about when we say.
Speaker 2: That's all the intel I had have nothing else.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Wait, do they actually like do they do? They make
Speaker 5: them all like like breed together? Is that how this
Speaker 5: is done?
Speaker 3: Or is it like, yeah, it's a turkey inside, it's
Speaker 3: a it.
Speaker 7: Is they're all like stuffed into each other.
Speaker 2: It's boneless, right because I remember Madden you should just
Speaker 2: think it with his hands to say there's no bones.
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly, it's like a d bone turkey that you
Speaker 10: stuff a duck and stuck a chicken there legs.
Speaker 7: I regret that.
Speaker 5: Do you remember there were six legs and John Madden wulgull.
Speaker 5: I don't know why there's six legs, got legs, like
Speaker 5: start eating the legs and the best?
Speaker 2: It was absolutely the best.
Speaker 1: Is anybody a turkey person here?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: Does anybody really.
Speaker 2: Like cooked properly? It's really good. You gotta you gotta cook.
Speaker 2: You probably gotta brian and properly. Otherwise it's dry. But
Speaker 2: it's good. It's really good, but it's tough.
Speaker 1: Stormy has a very passionate opinion about to come.
Speaker 7: I completely second Will's take. It has to be like
Speaker 7: a moist good like well cooked situation.
Speaker 6: But a honey baked haam is delightful on Thanksgiving, big
Speaker 6: honey baked tam goal.
Speaker 5: We didn't have a lot of that honey baked ham
Speaker 5: growing up for some reason. I'm not sure why we did.
Speaker 8: That's right, we didn't really get I got recognized my
Speaker 8: audience here.
Speaker 5: We had a shaves beal every goddamn thinks like people
Speaker 5: think this Thanksgiving. Other're like, oh, I hate so much.
Speaker 5: This was like what the Jews, the Orthodox Jews, do
Speaker 5: this every single week, Friday night and Saturday afternoon. One
Speaker 5: after that, it's impossible to be thin. You might as
Speaker 5: well just fast the whole day. And then when they
Speaker 5: have their holidays where they have like three holiday days
Speaker 5: in a row and it's like six meals in a row,
Speaker 5: like Thanksgiving style, and you're just like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: Like I could do Thanksgiving in my sleep.
Speaker 1: This was my other thing, you know the brisket story,
Speaker 1: tod This was my This was the other thing with
Speaker 1: my mom was she would put raisins in her Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: stuffing and I'd be like, why do you put raisins
Speaker 1: in the stuffing? Be like you loves right there? I
Speaker 1: was like, I do not love the raisins.
Speaker 5: I would tell her that's targeting right there. I would
Speaker 5: give her fifteen yards at targeting. Then they're into the
Speaker 5: kitchen and I say, don't come back until the third
Speaker 5: quarter with that raisin shit.
Speaker 1: I don't what have.
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 1: Okay, we got we got ten minutes, Dodd, what's your set?
Speaker 1: What's your last?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna do this out of the I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go with the Arizona plus.
Speaker 4: Three and a half's.
Speaker 1: You know, I was one of my kids.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, there's a there's a part of me
Speaker 5: that's worried that Minnesota is gonna play lockdown defense and
Speaker 5: and win a big game here. But then there's also
Speaker 5: a part of me that says Arizona had really been
Speaker 5: coming on, and then you know, Seattle.
Speaker 4: Shut them down a little bit. I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I still think they're pretty good.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Arizona here, you know, just because
Speaker 5: I really can't find anything else that I love. So
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the car Rdinals and hope Kyler Murray
Speaker 5: can run, you know, run around like crazy and get
Speaker 5: me there at plus three a half. And I don't
Speaker 5: have any faith in that Sam Donald guy. I mean
Speaker 5: enough with the Sam Donald it's twenty four to sixteen.
Speaker 5: You can't get the first down. Now you kick the
Speaker 5: field goal, Now you give up the touchdown neither. It's like,
Speaker 5: I'm not with that Sam Donald guy anymore. Give me
Speaker 5: Arizona plus three and a half.
Speaker 1: Will let me just jump in line, because I'm taking
Speaker 1: Arizona's my third. Also, my other candidates were the Ravens
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks, but I like the Cardinals. I think
Speaker 1: getting the three in the hook, plus it allows us
Speaker 1: both to stick it to Willie and his Vikings. So
Speaker 1: added bonus who yet, Well it's probably Aaron Rodgers still,
Speaker 1: we think. But the thing is that, I mean three
Speaker 1: and a half. As long as you're as long as
Speaker 1: you're getting the hook here against the Vikings, that's a play.
Speaker 1: And with a low, lowish total of forty four and
Speaker 1: a half, I'll take the Cardinals at three and a half,
Speaker 1: we'll go ahead.
Speaker 2: My last pick, right, yes, sir, your last I am
Speaker 2: going to go for my final pick, Arizona Cardinals plus
Speaker 2: three and a half. I can go j I'm going
Speaker 2: to jex the Vikings into a ten and two record,
Speaker 2: maybe the Vikings win by three and we're all happy.
Speaker 2: And I think Cam Robinson, the left tackle that replaced
Speaker 2: Why am I drawing a blank on the the really
Speaker 2: good tackle Darisa who got hurt in the Rams game.
Speaker 2: Robinson's now hurt and his back up, the third string guy, Quizinberry,
Speaker 2: is awful. He got beat left and right the other day.
Speaker 2: If he has to play, that's a big issue. Vikings
Speaker 2: have not looked the same as the first six weeks
Speaker 2: in the season. All these games have been close, they
Speaker 2: haven't really been as impressive. Three and a half, a
Speaker 2: lot of points. Because I'm getting the hook, I will
Speaker 2: go with Arizona.
Speaker 1: It is supposed to rain today, Stormy. They're very cloud
Speaker 1: is that little Vegas weather report on a Tuesday as
Speaker 1: we record this? Okay, which brings us to our teaser
Speaker 1: of the week, which I am absolutely horrific at this year, Stormy,
Speaker 1: your favorite two leg six point teaser.
Speaker 7: See. I was gonna say, you need to go first
Speaker 7: then so we know what to avoid.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, I'll do that. I'll actually do that. It's
Speaker 1: actually a good strategy. I am going to go Thank
Speaker 1: you very much for win. You'd think right, I will
Speaker 1: ye all right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the Sunday Night Monday, and I think
Speaker 1: I'm going Buffalo and.
Speaker 4: Denver Bill's minus one, Denver plus a half.
Speaker 1: Well, let me not do it. Yeah, let me just
Speaker 1: stick with it. Let me just stick with it. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm not going to be like these coaches, Bills
Speaker 1: Bill coaches who get to accept and then decline a penalty.
Speaker 1: They get to change their mind now apparently, yes, all right.
Speaker 6: I am also with Buffalo. So I have Buffalo down.
Speaker 6: And that's as a forty nine Ers fan. I just
Speaker 6: were They are terrible and the health factor. Every week
Speaker 6: it's something new, something bad. They're not any good in
Speaker 6: Orchard Park. Buffalo is going to win the game.
Speaker 7: So I like that.
Speaker 6: And then I think I'm just gonna bring down the
Speaker 6: Lions because they're what ten and a half right now?
Speaker 7: So we get that to four and a half? Are
Speaker 7: they ten? Is there ten or ten?
Speaker 4: You could go to four four?
Speaker 6: Let's go yeah, let's go to four. I think they
Speaker 6: should handle business. Every time we think there's going to
Speaker 6: be a sleepy spot for the Lions, there's not one,
Speaker 6: So handle handle it on Turkey Day.
Speaker 1: Baby, let's go lions handle their business.
Speaker 2: That is not a long teaser, So the teaser police
Speaker 2: will be out in full forces for a girl student.
Speaker 1: Mine is. I'm so not long either.
Speaker 6: I did before we came on here if it needed
Speaker 6: to be along, and he said, no.
Speaker 2: Oh did you hear that? Gil, She goes, does it
Speaker 2: need to be a wong? I said, no, you can
Speaker 2: pick what and you can pick whatever you want.
Speaker 5: Brent picked a forty team touchdown, touchdown, people pick, but
Speaker 5: we had we had to disavowed of on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to tell Brent.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Felt terrible. Oh no, very disrespectful of me. But I
Speaker 1: had to draw the line somewhere.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the bills minus one. I
Speaker 4: just don't see it.
Speaker 5: I think the forty nine ers, you know, I think
Speaker 5: I We were talking about it last week and I said,
Speaker 5: Gilly's the last one to get off the Niners boat.
Speaker 5: But he's finally I think you're finally off the boat, right,
Speaker 5: are you finally jumping?
Speaker 1: They don't have so what are we talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I know, I'm just saying, so I'll take the bills
Speaker 5: minus the one and then I'll go with I'm going
Speaker 5: to go with Willie's Tennessee Titans up to a key
Speaker 5: number of eleven and a half, Folks. The eleven and
Speaker 5: the fives and the eights have become a lot more
Speaker 5: pervasive around the National Football League due to the two
Speaker 5: point conversions, and that eleven and a half to me,
Speaker 5: speaks to me because you could be down, you know,
Speaker 5: even eighteen and get the back door with Willie Levis,
Speaker 5: the mayonnaise guy, I'll take the Titans plus eleven and
Speaker 5: a half.
Speaker 1: What do you call him a mayonnaise guy?
Speaker 2: Well, did he do a guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did a male mao.
Speaker 6: He puts mayo in his coffee in that the hell see,
Speaker 6: you must like just slip through the games and not
Speaker 6: see the commercials on game day because he has that
Speaker 6: split that he does between two hellman's mayo jars.
Speaker 7: I'm watching red definitely a.
Speaker 1: Visual I'm on Red Zone. Yeah, I don't see that.
Speaker 1: That's by the way, is there anything more disgusting than
Speaker 1: mayonnaise anything?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Those videos they should people just eat mayonnaise.
Speaker 5: Oh they have him go back to pass with the
Speaker 5: mayonnaise and he throws it to the other team and
Speaker 5: then the other team runs the mayonnaise back and Spike
Speaker 5: sit into the tune for for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I do like the backup quarterback commercials where they bring
Speaker 1: in like Josh Dobbs and Chase Daniel and those guys.
Speaker 2: Chase Daniel, right, Bill Falcons, Bill's Falcons. I think the Falcons.
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're gonna win, but they're off
Speaker 2: a bye. They do tend to keep most of these
Speaker 2: games close. I know they got killed by Denver, but
Speaker 2: most of these LANDA games are close. So Atlanta and Buffalo,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: Final two questions?
Speaker 4: Plus eight? Is that correct? We're giving them up to
Speaker 4: plus eight? Right?
Speaker 2: Works for me?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we're being a little.
Speaker 5: Generous there before he starts all the nonsense that he
Speaker 5: loves to start. Mister d Jana Wilson over there, you know,
Speaker 5: let's uh.
Speaker 1: Explain to do you explain to Stormy what you have?
Speaker 1: But what's the problem with dj A to you? Really?
Speaker 5: Stormy Will doesn't like dj A Carrington because he thinks
Speaker 5: dj and A tried to stab Caitlin with her fingernail
Speaker 5: and that ball game, and you know, and.
Speaker 4: A lot of other stuff too.
Speaker 5: It's not just that he could only go on for
Speaker 5: fourteen hours about that?
Speaker 1: All right, Final final. By the way, she totally tried
Speaker 1: to stabber final two.
Speaker 4: Ques.
Speaker 5: Of course San Francisco is up twenty four now, and
Speaker 5: I could have just done the line instead of the
Speaker 5: first half line. They're up sixty four to thirty eight.
Speaker 5: They're up twenty six points. So, of course, what an
Speaker 5: idiot I am?
Speaker 4: Go ahead?
Speaker 1: True final two questions eas at every megapod, the first
Speaker 1: of which is which of the big favorites is the
Speaker 1: most likely to lose? Outright? In your opinion? The Lions
Speaker 1: are ten point favorites at home against the Bears. These
Speaker 1: spreads don't matter. I'm just giving you candidates Detroit Kansas
Speaker 1: City twelve point favorites woe and half point favorites at
Speaker 1: home against the Raiders boo. And there's only there's very
Speaker 1: little on Sunday Buffalo seven point favorites at home against
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Let's just leave it at those three. If
Speaker 1: I came to you from the future, Stormy, and I said,
Speaker 1: either Detroit, who was the other one?
Speaker 4: She just made a candoids city?
Speaker 7: You said Detroit Kansas City?
Speaker 5: And what about what about Tampa Bay, Gilly? What about
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay's is six.
Speaker 7: That would be my pick. That would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're not throwing Tampa Bay in there because we
Speaker 1: want to make it we want to make it hard.
Speaker 1: So it's between Detroit, Kansas City, and Buffalo. One of
Speaker 1: those teams loses outright stormy, which is.
Speaker 6: It, Well, based on our teasers all taking Buffalo with
Speaker 6: our luck, it'll be San Francisco out of nowhere. God,
Speaker 6: I like all those favorites to win though, So that's uh, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna throw throw Buffalo out there, because crazy
Speaker 6: things can happen in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Buffalo.
Speaker 2: I think if San Francisco's guys plays, I mean, wouldn't
Speaker 2: be shocked if San Francisco on their a game with
Speaker 2: a healthy roster wins a game. So I think it's
Speaker 2: Buffalo too.
Speaker 5: I'm going to harken back to me and Gilly sitting
Speaker 5: at the Caesars Sports Book and wondering why they're charging
Speaker 5: us for breathing the air and watching the Kansas City
Speaker 5: Chiefs and the Oakland Raiders play on Christmas Day and
Speaker 5: both of us looking at each other and saying.
Speaker 4: Is this really happening?
Speaker 5: Is this really happening, and I'm gonna say, maybe it
Speaker 5: happens again on a holiday and it's Kansas City goes
Speaker 5: down with O'Connell, Ritter and the other guy not getting
Speaker 5: any first downs in the second half.
Speaker 1: You imagine if someone told us that day, you know
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl, we'd
Speaker 1: have been like, yet, there's no chance, so bad, all right?
Speaker 1: And then the final question, Stormy, we live in a
Speaker 1: bizarre world where you are required to bet each and
Speaker 1: every game on the side, except for one game. One
Speaker 1: game you get a free pass on. You don't want
Speaker 1: any part of what's the game? You want no part.
Speaker 6: There are honestly a lot that I don't like this week,
Speaker 6: but I would say Colt's Patriot seems pretty disgusting to
Speaker 6: me with a three point spread in that one, So
Speaker 6: that'll be my stay away or as Michael Lombardi calls
Speaker 6: his hal of notes, I can't go for that.
Speaker 1: Cove it. Oh, he's like going deep into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Oaks catalog. He's like, that's my Zarah smile, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can go. I like that pick, by the way, Toddy,
Speaker 1: but you.
Speaker 5: Would say that the g men going against the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: You get the Veto against Cooper Rush with all that
Speaker 5: silliness in Dallas. Who knows what the hell could happen?
Speaker 5: By the way, has anybody figured out whether the sun
Speaker 5: will be out at for the three thirty Central time
Speaker 5: and come shooting there? But when you make a four
Speaker 5: million billion dollar stadium, would it be a good idea
Speaker 5: to figure out where the sun would be shooting in
Speaker 5: on the on the glass?
Speaker 4: Is that a good idea? I don't know. Anyways, I
Speaker 4: want a part of that game.
Speaker 2: Will I thought about using the Giants because I'm not
Speaker 2: sure it's going to be the Veto and if lock players,
Speaker 2: that might be a decent game. My team that I've
Speaker 2: talked about this that I can't get a read on
Speaker 2: is the Rams.
Speaker 4: Are they good?
Speaker 2: Are they bad? They saw it? They're okay. I have
Speaker 2: no idea. Ram Saints is mine.
Speaker 1: I would say that about both the Rams and the
Speaker 1: Saint time with you. That's mine, Ram Saints. That does it?
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Speaker 1: her out. What's your assignment this week? Thank you?
Speaker 6: Tuiting down to Provo b Yu and Houston this week
Speaker 6: and then Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7: Yes I am hosting, but I'm not cooking. Don't judge me.
Speaker 1: Judged you are not all right, b Yu. Let's go
Speaker 1: b Yu. Let's get a little break. Let's get in
Speaker 1: that college football playoff for the cause. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Thank you, Stormy, appreciate she hated. Good luck
Speaker 1: to all of you. Week thirteen in the National Football
Speaker 1: League