WEBVTT - Avengers: Infinity War (2018)

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, today's episode contains spoilers for The Avengers Infinity War.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand, boy? You're about to take the full force

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<v Speaker 1>of a star. It'll kill you. Only if I die. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what killing you means. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Rosie Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to X-Ray Vision, the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, we are continuing our ever more impending

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<v Speaker 3>doomsday series, Eat We are revisiting one of the 15

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<v Speaker 3>properties Marvel has highlighted as essential viewing before Avengers Doomsday.

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<v Speaker 3>We started with X-Men and X2. We've done the first

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<v Speaker 3>Avengers film. So if you haven't heard those, you can

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<v Speaker 3>find them in this feed or the impending Doomsday feed.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to start off with some banger facts.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to lay the land.

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<v Speaker 2>How was it when Infinity War came out? Can you remember?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a different time.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to tell you the production woes, the

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<v Speaker 3>lead in, the drama. Then we're going to recap the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And afterwards, we're going to answer the question. Why is

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<v Speaker 2>this included?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do we need to watch Infinity War before Doomsday?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start. It's a back issue. Quick facts about Avengers

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<v Speaker 1>Infinity War. No Hugo Weaving is the Red Skull. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Shouts to Ross Markand, who did a fantastic job.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that when I saw the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing his Hugo Weaving German accent as the floating disembodied

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<v Speaker 1>Red Skull on Vormir, Hugo Weaving turned the role down

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<v Speaker 1>because they just were not ponying enough money. Weaving told

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<v Speaker 1>Time Out in January 2020 that his original deal covered

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<v Speaker 1>three pictures and that the offer for the two Avengers films,

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<v Speaker 1>Infinity War and Endgame, was less than he was paid

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<v Speaker 1>for Captain America, the first Avenger alone. And that he

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<v Speaker 1>had been told the sequels were only a voice job.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be fair, you're in this movie for two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, Hugo Weaving.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said on the negotiation, quote, I actually found

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating with them through my agent impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, look, he's not the only one who's ever said it, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>It's true. He's not out here saying this is a

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<v Speaker 3>shocking fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He said that he would have done it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if they met his price. Ross Markand, as noted,

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<v Speaker 1>played the Vormir Stonekeeper instead. And Time Out notes that

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<v Speaker 1>the Russos have publicly confirmed that weaving was approached, but

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't. Go into the details.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on. Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Two lines of Spider-Man's death scene were scripted. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is an incredible note because I love this scene so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And the rest came from Tom Holland on the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Russo to offer up rocks during the release was

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<v Speaker 3>said like on the page was, I don't feel so

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<v Speaker 3>good and I'm sorry. And everything in between is Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>So when he's like, I don't want to go, Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Stark.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like crying.

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<v Speaker 3>I think my first review for this movie after I

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<v Speaker 3>saw it, probably on the Disney lot was.

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<v Speaker 2>Give Tom Holland an Oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>The campaign starts now.

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<v Speaker 2>He sold that shit to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Russo said they pushed Holland towards the idea that he

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<v Speaker 3>was a child who did not understand what was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Russo credited Robert Downey Jr. with feeling the performance

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment, describing him as giving a performer who

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<v Speaker 3>helped them find the take.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. I'm going to skip the next one because

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<v Speaker 1>that's really just a version of the first one. The

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<v Speaker 1>hero shot from the first trailer, which shows, you might

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<v Speaker 1>recall this, The Avengers and the Wakandan army charging towards

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<v Speaker 1>the camera. Hulk, not Banner and Hulkbuster, full Hulk among them,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, does not exist in the film and was

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<v Speaker 1>shot and created only for the trailer. Anthony Russo on

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<v Speaker 1>the Happy Sad Confused podcast said it was literally created

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<v Speaker 1>in that version for the trailer. Joe Russo said they

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<v Speaker 1>used footage shot for other scenes. And, of course, created

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<v Speaker 1>it in CG specifically for trailer purposes. Everybody does this now,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so normal now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so normal to do that. Separately, Thanos' trailer line

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<v Speaker 1>about balancing the universe was scripted and shot. Jor-El said

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<v Speaker 1>it was spoken to Gamora on Nowhere and replaced in

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<v Speaker 1>post with a different line.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Every actor on the film was given a fake script,

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<v Speaker 3>and as we know, Joe Russo named Tom Holland as

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<v Speaker 3>the reason. Russo told GamesRadar the cast was working from

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<v Speaker 3>scripts with invented scenes, twists, and endings, and that very

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<v Speaker 3>few people had seen the finished film. On why we

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<v Speaker 3>can't trust anybody. Least of all, Tom Holland with the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, calm down. He's young, guys. It's a cute bit. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>He added that it was easier on the actors to

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<v Speaker 3>have read a fake ending than to know the real

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<v Speaker 3>one and carry the pressure of hiding it. Two days later,

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<v Speaker 3>on BBC Radio Scotland, Russo put Holland's status plainly. The

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<v Speaker 3>actor had a couple of slip-ups in the past, so

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<v Speaker 3>he's on the blacklist now. and they said they wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a fake script specifically for him. Russo also said the

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<v Speaker 3>cast could work without the real pages because the objectives

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<v Speaker 3>of each scene were contained in the scene and that

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<v Speaker 3>no one besides him and his brother needed to know

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<v Speaker 3>the villain's overall goal. Paul Bettany described rehearsing material with

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<v Speaker 3>fake scenes and fake storylines being told on set that

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<v Speaker 3>none of it was what happened and then being handed

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<v Speaker 3>the real deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's... We're going overboard now. Yeah. It is a little

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<v Speaker 1>too much, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We know what happens in the comics. Like, he clicks

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<v Speaker 3>away 50% of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that they just, like, hung poor Tom Holland

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<v Speaker 1>out to dry.

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<v Speaker 3>They threw my man under the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing better than any of them right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Starlin.

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<v Speaker 3>Woo! Legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolute legendary artist, creator of Thanos, Gamora, and Drax. Did

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<v Speaker 1>some great Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. work as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Paid for his own ticket to see The Avengers. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to the LA Times, Hero Complex, in May 2012, after

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<v Speaker 1>Thanos appeared in the tag, Starlin said he was not

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<v Speaker 1>officially told the character was in the film and learned

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<v Speaker 1>about it from friends who had seen internet rumors. Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like us, comics legends. On compensation, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the second film containing something he created for Marvel. The

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<v Speaker 1>Infinity Gauntlet and Thor being the first and both films

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<v Speaker 1>I had to pay for my own ticket to see.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jim Starlin, not loving it.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to say, that is very specifically at

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<v Speaker 3>this time. He was good enough at doing these interviews

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<v Speaker 3>that now I think he is quite happy. And by

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<v Speaker 3>the time we get to Endgame, there will be a

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<v Speaker 3>different story. The film opened, Jason, this is crazy. These

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<v Speaker 3>were crazy times.

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<v Speaker 1>To $ 257, 698, 183 domestic. A record at the time. And it finished.

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<v Speaker 3>$ 2, 052, 415, 039 worldwide. Domestic total was almost $ 700 million. International was

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<v Speaker 3>over a billion, like.

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<v Speaker 2>A $ 33. 67 split.

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<v Speaker 3>Its own sequel took the domestic opening record later, just

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<v Speaker 3>13 months later, with $ 357. 1 million opening.

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<v Speaker 2>Doomsday is not going to do that much. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to the Russo brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe with inflation, but it'll get somewhere in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, these were... But not to open.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, to open to almost 400 mil.

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<v Speaker 3>Though Spider-Man did open to almost 300.

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<v Speaker 2>So we could be back in the realm. Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these were, to your point, crazy times. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. We'll be back in three years.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. We open in deep space. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a distress call. We hear a distress call going out

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<v Speaker 1>saying that the vessel, the statesman, the Asgardian refugee ship

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<v Speaker 1>carrying King Thor, Loki, and others after the events of

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<v Speaker 1>Thor Ragnarok.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that?

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Thor Ragnarok? And which at the end, just to

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<v Speaker 1>quickly update, Asgard... as a realm was destroyed and a

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<v Speaker 1>good number of its civilians were evacuated on the statesmen.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than Thor and Heimdall, there's really just like civilians

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<v Speaker 1>and families aboard this vessel. And they're mostly dead now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's already.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad times.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad times. It's already happened. Ebony Maw is walking around

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<v Speaker 1>talking shit. Stepping over Asgardian bodies. Oh, God. Here he

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<v Speaker 1>goes again. To talk about, oh, you have the honor

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<v Speaker 1>of dying by Thanos. Your deaths bring balance. To the Uriah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's giving the whole Thanosian ideology.

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<v Speaker 2>Calm down, mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a break. Thanos is there, and we finally

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<v Speaker 1>see him in his full bulk.

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<v Speaker 2>There he is, the big boy, the Josh version.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fully here. He's looking chunky.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got the ball chin. He's huge. He's Thanos' daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>People will draw many pictures of his butt as this

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<v Speaker 3>movie comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>He monologues a little bit while he's carrying Thor around

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<v Speaker 1>like a bowling ball, which is very scary. Gives you

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<v Speaker 1>an idea about how strong he is.

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<v Speaker 3>So scary.

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<v Speaker 1>All Loki can do... is watch while, you know, Thanos

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<v Speaker 1>is flexing the glove. He's only got the one, he's

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<v Speaker 1>only got the power gem, power stone in there right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And he wants to Tesseract. And he's like, Loki, where

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<v Speaker 1>is it? I know that you have it. But Thor

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<v Speaker 1>is like, ha ha ha. It was destroyed. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>may not know this, but Surtr, the great demon unleashed

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<v Speaker 1>by Hela, destroyed Asgard. And sadly, everything on Asgard, including

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<v Speaker 1>the Tesseract, which was in the trophy room, was destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Loki's like, no, actually, I kept it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he pulls it out of his sleeve. What a Loki

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I love that Thor has the time while this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is all going on that he says, you really are

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<v Speaker 2>the worst brother.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love that they still have that banter in

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<v Speaker 3>this terrible, fatal moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Loki is like, you know, about to hand

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<v Speaker 1>it to Thanos, but he's like, we have a Hulk.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Hulk comes out and lands some good shots.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a measure of just how strong Thanos is,

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<v Speaker 1>he's already got one stone, which makes him insanely powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was strong before that. He just easily, frighteningly easily,

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<v Speaker 1>pieces up the Hulk.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>No. Throat chop, one, two, three, four, five, little jab, jab, jab,

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<v Speaker 1>bitter patter. And then body slams him, and the Hulk is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>knocked unconscious with ease. Heimdall is, like, you know... Odin,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the strength for one last rainbow bridge. Calls

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<v Speaker 1>one last rainbow bridge and sends Banagher away to Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>MVP moment, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, if we really think about it, Heimdall doing this

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<v Speaker 3>is what allows the rest of the Avengers to know. So,

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<v Speaker 3>once again, Idris Elba coming through for us all.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done so much, and it's just kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>unsung hero in the Marvel Universe.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one who keeps it going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so true. Thanos immediately kills him. Thor is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're going to die for that because that was

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<v Speaker 1>my guy. That was my really, really good friend. Ebony

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<v Speaker 1>Maw is just a noseless, obsequious worm. And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Thanos, it is my great honor to give this

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<v Speaker 1>to you. And he like kneels and hands the cube

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<v Speaker 1>to Thanos and Thanos crushes it and refines the gem

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<v Speaker 1>and puts the gem back. in the glove, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a pure cocaine hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy. Thanos is high.

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<v Speaker 2>He's high off the gem.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just like, ah!

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<v Speaker 3>Super Saiyan Thanos. Did we ever realize, Jason, do you

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<v Speaker 3>know why they changed the order of the gems on

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<v Speaker 3>the glove?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we know?

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<v Speaker 3>I never understood. I can't remember if we ever got

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<v Speaker 3>an official opinion or if it was just it looks

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<v Speaker 3>cool and the colors look good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good question. We should figure that out because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, to your point, it's not in the order

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<v Speaker 1>they were unveiled. Yes. And it's not in the order,

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<v Speaker 1>the original order.

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<v Speaker 2>Original order on the glove.

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<v Speaker 1>On the glove.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it probably was just so it looks cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it might be like the colors that go

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<v Speaker 3>well together. But I think about it every time he's

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<v Speaker 3>putting a gem in, the little comic book guy in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of my head is like, he's putting it

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<v Speaker 3>in the wrong place. But, I mean, what a rad

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<v Speaker 3>sequence this is. Where he crushes it?

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<v Speaker 1>It must simply be that it's in order that he

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<v Speaker 1>gets them, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just puts them along the knuckles as he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as he goes. Like, he wouldn't go, oh, yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that goes in the third. The soul goes on the

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<v Speaker 1>third one, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Paint by colors, paint by numbers, which one you put

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<v Speaker 2>it in.

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<v Speaker 1>He then tells his Black Order minions... There's two gems

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth, Time Stone with Doctor Strange, Soul Stone and

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<v Speaker 1>Vision's forehead. Go get them! Loki is like, oh, Earth?

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what? You might need a tour guide. I am

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect guy. I know New York really well. I

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<v Speaker 1>invaded it, that whole thing. Thanos is like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>mean your failed war where you got captured and that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing? Like, give me a fucking break. I.

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<v Speaker 3>He was his boss. Thanos was his boss and he

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<v Speaker 3>failed him. And he's like, want to hire me again?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to work. Good pitch, Loki, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>never going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Loki says, listen, you could use me. I promise you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you my like undying fidelity. He's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously lying. He's building it up too much. He then

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<v Speaker 1>pulls out a knife as Thanos gets close, but Thanos

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<v Speaker 1>just freezes him with the power gem and laughs at

0:14:48.310 --> 0:14:50.770
<v Speaker 1>the word choice, like undying, ha ha ha, like you

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<v Speaker 1>should have picked something different, and then strangles Loki to

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<v Speaker 1>death in front of his brother Thor. No resurrections this time,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Brolin says, and then he portals out, destroys the

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<v Speaker 1>ship with the Power Stone, and he's gone. We go

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<v Speaker 1>to Greenwich Village. Dr. Strange and Wong are having a very,

0:15:11.580 --> 0:15:16.100
<v Speaker 1>very amusing conversation about a deli run, deli order. Wong-

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<v Speaker 1>apparently never has any money, is always asking to borrow

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<v Speaker 1>money from Strange. And as they're discussing this, Bruce Banner

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<v Speaker 1>falls through the roof of the Sanctum Sanctorum, through the stairs,

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<v Speaker 1>and they look in the hole. He's transforming back into

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Banner. The green is ebbing away. He's going, Thanos

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<v Speaker 1>is coming!

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<v Speaker 3>Thanos is coming!

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<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere, Tony and Pepper... In what appears to be the

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<v Speaker 1>East River walk, I think, are talking about work and

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<v Speaker 1>their personal lives. And Tony is saying, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had this dream that you and I had a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>The child was named Morgan. And what if we did that?

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<v Speaker 1>What if we found out they're getting married? What if

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<v Speaker 1>we had a kid? And Pepper's like, well, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>really serious about settling down into married life, having a kid,

0:16:11.980 --> 0:16:16.030
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be wearing... your experimental nanotech arc reactor, which

0:16:16.090 --> 0:16:20.190
<v Speaker 1>means actually you're ready for battle, not a home life

0:16:20.270 --> 0:16:24.140
<v Speaker 1>because we discover this movie is really good at giving

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<v Speaker 1>you exposition in little lines of things that have happened

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<v Speaker 1>off screen. She complains about the arc reactor and he says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need it. I had the surgery. So now

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<v Speaker 1>you know that Tony actually doesn't need it for his

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<v Speaker 1>heart anymore. And this movie is really good at delivering

0:16:40.930 --> 0:16:43.670
<v Speaker 1>moments like that. But it's clear that he just loves

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<v Speaker 1>being Iron Man. He loves his suits.

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<v Speaker 3>It's keeping the nanotech. That's the reason he gives her

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<v Speaker 3>right now. And in her mind, she's like, just settle down, man.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need the suit if you're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the husband.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, well, I just want to protect us. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he promises no more surprises, which is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an important line to open Tony's entrance in Endgame.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Dr. Strange portals in and says, hey, congrats

0:17:06.650 --> 0:17:09.950
<v Speaker 1>on the wedding, but I need you. And look who's

0:17:09.990 --> 0:17:13.619
<v Speaker 1>here with me. It's Bruce Banner back from space. And

0:17:13.650 --> 0:17:17.419
<v Speaker 1>Bruce looks so shaken that Tony knows it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason, that's one of those moments in the theater where

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<v Speaker 3>this movie really starts to amp up, right? Because you

0:17:24.140 --> 0:17:27.690
<v Speaker 3>get your portal, Strange walks out, he says, Tony Stark

0:17:27.750 --> 0:17:29.129
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, who the fuck are you?

0:17:29.190 --> 0:17:29.780
<v Speaker 2>Like what's going on?

0:17:30.070 --> 0:17:32.840
<v Speaker 3>And you get that moment of connection between these different

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<v Speaker 3>parts of the Avengers universe. And I think that as well,

0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.060
<v Speaker 3>like you mentioned about that exposition. The way they reintroduce

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.919
<v Speaker 3>characters here works so well. But everyone has a favorite moment.

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.260
<v Speaker 3>Mine is obviously the Scarlet Witch vision stuff, which we'll

0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.609
<v Speaker 3>get to. But this is such a fun way to

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<v Speaker 3>establish the normality of these heroes being in this world

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<v Speaker 3>at this point. Like, Doctor Strange can just portal into

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<v Speaker 3>New York, no issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, it's so great to see everybody

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<v Speaker 1>finally come together. It's just wonderful. They go to the

0:18:04.070 --> 0:18:08.990
<v Speaker 1>Sanctum Sanctorum. Wong does the PowerPoint on the Infinity Stones,

0:18:09.130 --> 0:18:13.570
<v Speaker 1>kind of update Tony about what they are. Strange is like,

0:18:14.450 --> 0:18:18.030
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, check this out. And he throws

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<v Speaker 1>his neck piece on his chest and.

0:18:20.580 --> 0:18:21.100
<v Speaker 3>Opens it up.

0:18:21.150 --> 0:18:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And there's a time when Tony just has to show

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<v Speaker 1>it off. And so Tony is like, okay, perfect. Why

0:18:28.820 --> 0:18:32.380
<v Speaker 1>don't you just destroy that since that's what he wants.

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:33.420
<v Speaker 3>And then.

0:18:34.660 --> 0:18:36.020
<v Speaker 1>You know, they kind of go back and forth. There's

0:18:36.060 --> 0:18:39.780
<v Speaker 1>a great dick measuring war going on between the two.

0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Banner is like, listen, you have to focus. It's about Thanos.

0:18:43.580 --> 0:18:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Thanos is the one who sent Loki and the Chitauri

0:18:46.220 --> 0:18:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to invade in New York. He's collecting the stones. He

0:18:48.900 --> 0:18:51.880
<v Speaker 1>already has two, which makes him the most powerful being

0:18:51.900 --> 0:18:55.010
<v Speaker 1>in the universe already. There's four more. If he gets

0:18:55.050 --> 0:18:58.090
<v Speaker 1>all six, like we're fucking finished. There's also some fun

0:18:58.130 --> 0:19:00.649
<v Speaker 1>banter here in which we discover that Ben and Jerry's

0:19:00.670 --> 0:19:02.480
<v Speaker 1>has various Avengers flavors. Yes.

0:19:02.990 --> 0:19:06.929
<v Speaker 3>Hulk is the favored flavor in the Sanctum Sanctorum because

0:19:06.970 --> 0:19:08.370
<v Speaker 3>it's like more of a chocolate flavor.

0:19:08.390 --> 0:19:11.969
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's Fudger Fudger Burning Hulk is what it's called.

0:19:12.430 --> 0:19:14.300
<v Speaker 1>There's got to be like some sort of mint or

0:19:14.470 --> 0:19:15.880
<v Speaker 1>pistachio involved, right?

0:19:15.940 --> 0:19:17.800
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they should have, but it sounds like

0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 3>they went for more of a hunk of burning love.

0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Tony doesn't like his, the Iron Man one apparently is

0:19:22.500 --> 0:19:23.260
<v Speaker 3>a little chalky.

0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.240
<v Speaker 1>So Tony is like, yeah, just destroy the time stone

0:19:28.270 --> 0:19:31.780
<v Speaker 1>and we're kind of like done, right? And Strange is like,

0:19:31.820 --> 0:19:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't. It's my job. My job is to use

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<v Speaker 1>this thing and protect it and protect all of reality,

0:19:38.010 --> 0:19:41.730
<v Speaker 1>you fucking dick. Like, you don't even understand how complex

0:19:41.790 --> 0:19:44.970
<v Speaker 1>and serious my job is. And so, okay, what about

0:19:45.010 --> 0:19:47.470
<v Speaker 1>the Mind Stone? Well, that's in Vision's forehead. We need

0:19:47.490 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to secure Vision. And Tony's like, ugh. Well, here's the

0:19:52.300 --> 0:19:53.060
<v Speaker 1>thing about Vision.

0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been letting him go off and have his little

0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.100
<v Speaker 1>fuck fests in Rwanda, like across the world.

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.260
<v Speaker 3>Eating fish and chips in Scotland.

0:20:04.180 --> 0:20:07.419
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just like staying at what appear to be

0:20:07.500 --> 0:20:10.790
<v Speaker 1>some of the nicest places apartments and or hotels like

0:20:10.990 --> 0:20:14.690
<v Speaker 1>in the area. But it turns out that vision has

0:20:14.750 --> 0:20:18.820
<v Speaker 1>turned off his like, find my vision app because he

0:20:18.859 --> 0:20:22.650
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to be found. And we don't know where

0:20:22.670 --> 0:20:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he is. And Banner's like, you lost another super AI

0:20:25.940 --> 0:20:30.680
<v Speaker 1>super bot who can find him. And on very, very

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:36.700
<v Speaker 1>fortunately it is Steve Rogers. Now Banner has no idea

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.830
<v Speaker 1>that there's been a whole civil war. that Tony found

0:20:39.869 --> 0:20:45.250
<v Speaker 1>out that Steve's 100-year-old best friend actually murdered his parents.

0:20:46.109 --> 0:20:47.770
<v Speaker 1>And there was a whole falling out over that. And

0:20:47.790 --> 0:20:51.680
<v Speaker 1>there's the Sokovia Accords in which there was a registration

0:20:51.740 --> 0:20:56.119
<v Speaker 1>push and that a bunch of heroes led by Cap

0:20:56.140 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>have gone underground. So Tony has to update him on

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.120
<v Speaker 1>this a little bit. But it must be serious because

0:21:03.180 --> 0:21:06.050
<v Speaker 1>Tony realizes, fuck, I guess I got to call Steve.

0:21:06.070 --> 0:21:09.119
<v Speaker 1>He pulls out his phone. But before he can Hit send.

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:14.379
<v Speaker 1>There's like a strange hum and the Ebony, you know,

0:21:14.820 --> 0:21:18.740
<v Speaker 1>the Black Order, Ebony Maw and Corvus Glaver here. There's

0:21:18.780 --> 0:21:21.940
<v Speaker 1>a ship outside on the Manhattan streets. People are screaming.

0:21:22.020 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 3>They're like running.

0:21:23.980 --> 0:21:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh my God. This car is crashing.

0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 3>It's very the beginning of The Leftovers.

0:21:27.020 --> 0:21:29.620
<v Speaker 2>Like every car is crashing. Everything's going wrong.

0:21:30.180 --> 0:21:33.530
<v Speaker 1>New York again at the center of it. And across

0:21:33.590 --> 0:21:37.890
<v Speaker 1>town on the Williamsburg Bridge, Peter Parker's Spidey tingle pops.

0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 1>And he looks and he sees the ship, Stanley driving

0:21:41.420 --> 0:21:42.300
<v Speaker 1>the bus, by the way.

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:42.860
<v Speaker 3>There he is.

0:21:43.380 --> 0:21:44.010
<v Speaker 5>There he is.

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.450
<v Speaker 1>Peter suits up, slings over to the ship, while Strange

0:21:47.530 --> 0:21:49.970
<v Speaker 1>on the street in front of the ship casts what

0:21:50.010 --> 0:21:51.990
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone agrees is Winds of Watoom.

0:21:52.090 --> 0:21:52.429
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

0:21:52.770 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Which stops the chaos, settles the debris, makes everything very still.

0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.399
<v Speaker 1>And Tony realizes in that moment that, oh, hold on,

0:22:01.460 --> 0:22:04.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe the bleaker street magician has some juice. He's got

0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:04.820
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of juice.

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:05.880
<v Speaker 2>He's got some juice.

0:22:06.740 --> 0:22:10.270
<v Speaker 1>Ebony Maw and, excuse me, Call Obsidian come down.

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:11.669
<v Speaker 3>How could you get it wrong?

0:22:11.690 --> 0:22:16.230
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, excuse me. The absolutely personality-less Call Obsidian.

0:22:16.670 --> 0:22:18.190
<v Speaker 3>I hate the children of Thanos.

0:22:18.270 --> 0:22:19.620
<v Speaker 2>It just does not work for me.

0:22:19.710 --> 0:22:22.220
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're interesting. I do love one of

0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:23.359
<v Speaker 3>them is played by Carrie Coon.

0:22:23.380 --> 0:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy enough to make me care.

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:29.970
<v Speaker 1>I will say that they are also personality lists in

0:22:29.990 --> 0:22:30.510
<v Speaker 1>the comics.

0:22:30.770 --> 0:22:34.310
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not like they it was always a strange addition.

0:22:34.330 --> 0:22:37.020
<v Speaker 3>And honestly, this is not going to surprise anyone who

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 3>listens to this podcast. I am holding a grudge because

0:22:40.020 --> 0:22:43.460
<v Speaker 3>I remember the year I think D23 or some kind

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.920
<v Speaker 3>of Marvel presentation when they had the four statues and.

0:22:46.850 --> 0:22:47.590
<v Speaker 2>They were covered in.

0:22:48.250 --> 0:22:50.389
<v Speaker 3>You know, blankets and everyone thought it was a Fantastic

0:22:50.470 --> 0:22:53.610
<v Speaker 3>Four reveal and it was fucking Black Order and Corvus

0:22:53.670 --> 0:22:56.419
<v Speaker 3>Glaive and nobody cared and they never lived up to it.

0:22:56.630 --> 0:22:57.170
<v Speaker 3>But you know what?

0:22:57.369 --> 0:22:58.629
<v Speaker 2>They get the job done.

0:22:58.690 --> 0:22:59.510
<v Speaker 3>They keep it moving.

0:22:59.530 --> 0:23:01.190
<v Speaker 1>They do get the job done. They get the job done.

0:23:01.630 --> 0:23:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So Ebony Maw is talking his regular oily shit about, oh,

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:10.260
<v Speaker 1>rejoice for you are to die at the hands of

0:23:10.460 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Thanos who will bring balance to the galaxy. Strange and

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Wong are ready to fight. Tony's like, hey, Bruce, it's

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 1>been a long time, babe. You ready? You want to

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>get in there? I love when you Hulk. He does.

0:23:23.820 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 3>He always loved it.

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:30.510
<v Speaker 1>I've loved it since Marvel's The Avengers. I've loved watching

0:23:30.550 --> 0:23:33.429
<v Speaker 1>you Hulk out. Get your guy up. Let's go. And

0:23:33.470 --> 0:23:35.310
<v Speaker 1>Bruce is like, I don't want to, but okay. And

0:23:35.350 --> 0:23:37.489
<v Speaker 1>then he's like, come out. But he can't do it.

0:23:38.070 --> 0:23:40.490
<v Speaker 1>And this is a continuing theme for Banner in this movie.

0:23:40.530 --> 0:23:44.659
<v Speaker 1>He cannot transform. So Tony... It has to suit up,

0:23:44.700 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and we get our first look at the nanotech transformation

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.020
<v Speaker 1>of the Mark 50 armor. Pretty cool.

0:23:49.460 --> 0:23:51.770
<v Speaker 3>So many armors. Like, how much money has he spent

0:23:51.830 --> 0:23:55.310
<v Speaker 3>on armor at this point, my guy? Trillions. Like, do

0:23:55.350 --> 0:23:58.169
<v Speaker 3>something else with it. You could have cut these people out.

0:23:59.250 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>So, Cull is just a big brute with, like, a...

0:24:03.940 --> 0:24:06.609
<v Speaker 1>ship anchor on a chain. And he's kind of easily

0:24:06.650 --> 0:24:10.750
<v Speaker 1>dealt with, although very, very strong. But Ma's telekinesis is very,

0:24:10.810 --> 0:24:13.570
<v Speaker 1>very powerful. He's like throwing cars around, cutting them in

0:24:13.630 --> 0:24:20.140
<v Speaker 1>half with like a gesture. He's powerful. The fight between Thanos' minions,

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.620
<v Speaker 1>Tony and Wong and Strange is, I think, really good.

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.740
<v Speaker 1>This immediately lets you know we're getting some great action

0:24:26.780 --> 0:24:30.139
<v Speaker 1>in this movie. And boy, does it arrive fast. Peter

0:24:30.180 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>arrives on the scene, makes it complicated. But then, you know,

0:24:36.180 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Tony gives Peter a very humorous update where he's like, Mr. Stark,

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? These guys are from space. They came

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.449
<v Speaker 1>to steal a necklace from a wizard. Perfect.

0:24:45.710 --> 0:24:49.990
<v Speaker 3>That is the perfect synthesis of what the MCU does well.

0:24:50.390 --> 0:24:53.010
<v Speaker 3>And it works with Tom Holland's Peter Parker, who loves movies,

0:24:53.050 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 3>who loves stories, who is a kid.

0:24:54.910 --> 0:24:55.980
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that line.

0:24:57.220 --> 0:24:59.950
<v Speaker 1>So... Strange is doing a pretty good job, but he

0:24:59.990 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 1>gets captured kind of quickly. And if not for the cloak,

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he would be very, very cooked right away. But Ma

0:25:08.660 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>can't get the stone off of him because of this

0:25:11.500 --> 0:25:15.050
<v Speaker 1>very powerful, unbreakable dead man spell that even if he

0:25:15.070 --> 0:25:17.610
<v Speaker 1>kills Strange, it actually gets worse. And you just never, ever,

0:25:17.869 --> 0:25:23.110
<v Speaker 1>ever get it. So Ma chokes Tony out with like

0:25:23.130 --> 0:25:27.500
<v Speaker 1>some steel girders. And then there's a brief chase in

0:25:27.540 --> 0:25:29.400
<v Speaker 1>which Peter Parker's trying to get him back, but then

0:25:29.420 --> 0:25:31.850
<v Speaker 1>they all end up getting beamed up to the ship

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.409
<v Speaker 1>with Strange and Peter going up, up, up, up, and up.

0:25:35.790 --> 0:25:39.570
<v Speaker 1>Wong gets a portal on Cull Obsidian and cuts his

0:25:39.690 --> 0:25:41.450
<v Speaker 1>arm clean off. They just leave him, I guess, to

0:25:41.530 --> 0:25:43.250
<v Speaker 1>run around in Antarctica or something.

0:25:43.270 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Crazy, but love that use of the portals.

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 3>We really start to see why Wong is going to

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.700
<v Speaker 3>become the Sorcerer Supreme. He utilizes them in a totally

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.500
<v Speaker 3>different way than Strange, and it's really fun.

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>So Tony goes flying up over the ship, up to

0:25:55.580 --> 0:26:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the ship, which is now leaving Earth orbit. Peter's attached

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to the ship, but it's getting higher up into the

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.380
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and he's beginning to pass out. So Tony launches

0:26:06.420 --> 0:26:08.930
<v Speaker 1>his new spider suit, the Iron Spider, which I guess

0:26:08.950 --> 0:26:11.770
<v Speaker 1>he just made for free without even talking to Peter.

0:26:11.890 --> 0:26:14.070
<v Speaker 3>I think it was just... I thought about this moment

0:26:14.170 --> 0:26:17.409
<v Speaker 3>a lot. I think it is an acknowledgement of the

0:26:17.450 --> 0:26:19.810
<v Speaker 3>fact that Tony knows Peter is going to keep getting

0:26:19.850 --> 0:26:22.270
<v Speaker 3>himself in trouble. He's always going to follow him. And

0:26:22.310 --> 0:26:25.510
<v Speaker 3>at some point, he's going to need a more serious suit.

0:26:25.609 --> 0:26:26.649
<v Speaker 3>And I do love it.

0:26:26.730 --> 0:26:30.130
<v Speaker 2>It's really cute. But it is also suit ex machina. Like,

0:26:30.190 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 2>no question.

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, fun fact, in the comics, Tony also gives... Peter

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:40.780
<v Speaker 1>this suit after Peter registers with the registration heroes. And

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:48.890
<v Speaker 1>in a shocking moment, which required some serious like retcon retelling,

0:26:49.369 --> 0:26:51.869
<v Speaker 1>Peter takes off his mask at a press conference and

0:26:51.910 --> 0:26:54.389
<v Speaker 1>tells everybody I'm Peter Parker for my whole life. I've

0:26:54.410 --> 0:27:00.530
<v Speaker 1>been Spider-Man. But that's the comics not here. So the

0:27:00.609 --> 0:27:04.869
<v Speaker 1>suit just attaches itself to Peter. He just stops passing out.

0:27:05.420 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Tony releases his like, you know, Friday, send him home. Friday,

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.420
<v Speaker 1>send him home and releases the parachute at the back

0:27:13.460 --> 0:27:16.390
<v Speaker 1>of his suit. So he goes flying back to Earth.

0:27:16.770 --> 0:27:21.810
<v Speaker 1>Tony cuts his way into the ship and goes inside. Meanwhile, Spider-Man, though,

0:27:21.850 --> 0:27:24.210
<v Speaker 1>of course, has not gone home. He sneaks aboard with

0:27:24.470 --> 0:27:29.010
<v Speaker 1>unbeknownst to Tony Stark down the street. Banner picks up.

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.540
<v Speaker 1>Tony's phone, and good thing he found that phone.

0:27:32.580 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Imagine if anyone else did.

0:27:34.180 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I know. In the wreckage of Greenwich Village with all

0:27:37.580 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>things destroyed, he finds the phone. Wong goes back to

0:27:40.859 --> 0:27:43.770
<v Speaker 1>the sanctum, and Banner flips it open and calls Steve.

0:27:44.750 --> 0:27:47.230
<v Speaker 1>Out in space, we go to the Guardians of the

0:27:47.270 --> 0:27:52.070
<v Speaker 1>Galaxy who are bopping around towards the Statemen's distress call,

0:27:52.090 --> 0:27:55.070
<v Speaker 1>which they have luckily picked up. They find Thor when

0:27:55.090 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>he just bumps into the windshield, half-dead. But of course,

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>he's not dead. They bring him aboard. And the whole ship,

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.570
<v Speaker 1>except for Peter Quill, is like, holy cow. This guy

0:28:06.650 --> 0:28:10.650
<v Speaker 1>is so good looking and hot and handsome with big, hard,

0:28:10.750 --> 0:28:15.790
<v Speaker 1>strong muscles. So funny. Wow. The beard is great.

0:28:15.810 --> 0:28:16.190
<v Speaker 3>Stunning.

0:28:16.210 --> 0:28:22.139
<v Speaker 1>He's beautiful. And Peter Quill is like, hold on. I

0:28:22.180 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>look good, too. Do I not have good muscles and stuff?

0:28:27.340 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>And Drax is like, actually, you've kind of been putting

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>on weight, honestly. And there's this whole thing. They wake

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>him up. There's a great moment where Gamora is like,

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:37.700
<v Speaker 1>his muscles are so hard.

0:28:39.810 --> 0:28:44.310
<v Speaker 3>He looks like a space angel warrior.

0:28:45.610 --> 0:28:48.950
<v Speaker 1>Gamora and Drax tell Thor everything they know about Thanos,

0:28:48.970 --> 0:28:53.430
<v Speaker 1>which is a lot, actually, because they're personal. Very personal. Thanos,

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:58.570
<v Speaker 1>of course, killed Drax's wife and family. And Gamora is

0:28:58.670 --> 0:29:01.650
<v Speaker 1>his adoptive daughter. So they know about a lot about him. Thor,

0:29:01.690 --> 0:29:03.770
<v Speaker 1>when he hears that Gamora is his daughter kind of

0:29:03.810 --> 0:29:05.790
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, are we going to have a problem?

0:29:06.130 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But Thor understands, he really understands a lot about kids

0:29:09.930 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>not being their parents and they're being sometimes like there's

0:29:13.700 --> 0:29:16.060
<v Speaker 1>a difference there and you can't always make up the difference.

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean that the kids are the parents. And

0:29:19.380 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>so he's like, we're good to go. We're, we're, we're fine. Yeah.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:26.970
<v Speaker 1>But I need a hammer to fight Thanos. Quill, meanwhile,

0:29:28.620 --> 0:29:31.540
<v Speaker 1>is taking on Thor's voice and doing.

0:29:31.620 --> 0:29:31.980
<v Speaker 3>So silly.

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:32.540
<v Speaker 1>There's a weird.

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:33.500
<v Speaker 5>Hold on, Rosie.

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.110
<v Speaker 1>There's a weird drape.

0:29:36.170 --> 0:29:37.210
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for my curtain.

0:29:37.250 --> 0:29:39.410
<v Speaker 2>It was very dramatic.

0:29:39.430 --> 0:29:42.940
<v Speaker 1>You know, like... he's like, yes, hold on. Where are

0:29:42.980 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you going? And he's like trying to put on Thor's voice.

0:29:45.220 --> 0:29:45.620
<v Speaker 1>So funny.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm the captain.

0:29:47.620 --> 0:29:50.130
<v Speaker 1>It is really funny. He's denying that he's doing it.

0:29:50.380 --> 0:29:53.690
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Thor's like, I know where, Thanos is going

0:29:53.710 --> 0:29:57.630
<v Speaker 1>to nowhere because he must be going there to get Um,

0:29:57.750 --> 0:30:00.810
<v Speaker 1>the reality stone, which is held there by the collector.

0:30:00.870 --> 0:30:03.230
<v Speaker 1>And of course the guardians know nowhere. Well, it's the

0:30:03.930 --> 0:30:08.780
<v Speaker 1>planet inside the head of a, of a celestial. And, uh,

0:30:09.210 --> 0:30:12.780
<v Speaker 1>they mentioned the, the soul stone is mentioned. Gamora has

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.459
<v Speaker 1>a very interesting reaction. She's like, Oh, she's like clearly

0:30:16.500 --> 0:30:19.460
<v Speaker 1>knows something about it, but doesn't say anything. Keeps it

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.380
<v Speaker 1>to herself. Thor is like, okay, well I got to

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>forge a new weapon to fight Thanos. I'm going to

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:31.100
<v Speaker 1>knit a valier. which is this intergalactic forge where like really,

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.959
<v Speaker 1>really cool weapons comes out of. And Rocket is like,

0:30:33.980 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, that's a real place. Like, I definitely want

0:30:36.820 --> 0:30:41.460
<v Speaker 1>to go. So Rocket, Thor, Teen Groot, who's always on

0:30:41.500 --> 0:30:45.450
<v Speaker 1>his Nintendo Switch, head to Diddy Valir and the Guardians

0:30:45.490 --> 0:30:48.390
<v Speaker 1>go off to nowhere to kind of head off Thanos.

0:30:49.660 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>We go to Edinburgh, Scotland. It's late in the evening.

0:30:52.860 --> 0:30:56.590
<v Speaker 1>Vision and Wanda just got done having sex yet again

0:30:56.660 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>in their sex apartment.

0:30:58.710 --> 0:31:01.150
<v Speaker 3>Squish sex apartment. They are living.

0:31:01.170 --> 0:31:02.170
<v Speaker 1>They're living.

0:31:02.230 --> 0:31:05.230
<v Speaker 3>It's plush furnishings. The curtains are nice.

0:31:05.310 --> 0:31:06.390
<v Speaker 2>It's cozy.

0:31:06.410 --> 0:31:09.930
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a roaring fire. They've been having a

0:31:09.970 --> 0:31:10.410
<v Speaker 3>great time.

0:31:10.430 --> 0:31:13.390
<v Speaker 1>Viz has been having some trouble with the stone. The

0:31:13.430 --> 0:31:15.580
<v Speaker 1>stone is acting up. It's trying to tell him something,

0:31:15.620 --> 0:31:19.050
<v Speaker 1>he thinks. But he doesn't know what. And they've been

0:31:19.230 --> 0:31:23.730
<v Speaker 1>at this, we discover, for years. Just going around sex

0:31:23.770 --> 0:31:26.670
<v Speaker 1>here and there. Loving as a couple. They're deeply in

0:31:26.710 --> 0:31:29.690
<v Speaker 1>love by this point. They're just a couple like in

0:31:29.730 --> 0:31:32.190
<v Speaker 1>the comics. And it's actually quite nice.

0:31:32.270 --> 0:31:33.290
<v Speaker 2>It's my fave stuff.

0:31:33.870 --> 0:31:35.860
<v Speaker 1>I love it so much. I mean, we could do,

0:31:36.060 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>if this was the comics, Rosie, there are so many

0:31:38.860 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>things in this film that would be like, they would

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.500
<v Speaker 1>have given us a one shot that's just like Vision

0:31:45.540 --> 0:31:48.390
<v Speaker 1>and Wanda like, two years on the road.

0:31:49.130 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Favorite meals like most romantic dates like that's the kind

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.180
<v Speaker 3>of cool weird shit we would have gotten and also

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.020
<v Speaker 3>they probably ran into some kind of Scottish witch coven

0:31:58.060 --> 0:32:00.740
<v Speaker 3>at some point right you know like it would be

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:04.100
<v Speaker 3>a random adventure but I'm really actually so and we'll

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 3>talk about this more after but I'm so excited to

0:32:06.340 --> 0:32:10.090
<v Speaker 3>see the MCU go back to Scotland and see Vision

0:32:10.170 --> 0:32:13.990
<v Speaker 3>return to what we the same place from what we've

0:32:14.090 --> 0:32:16.370
<v Speaker 3>seen from the Vision Quest trailers. So this is a

0:32:16.390 --> 0:32:19.660
<v Speaker 3>really exciting moment to rewatch in the lead up to

0:32:19.700 --> 0:32:20.820
<v Speaker 3>that and Doomsday.

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. They go for a walk. Viz is like,

0:32:28.420 --> 0:32:30.610
<v Speaker 1>I have to check in. I did promise Stark that

0:32:30.670 --> 0:32:34.110
<v Speaker 1>I'd check in regularly when I'm out, like when we're

0:32:34.170 --> 0:32:38.010
<v Speaker 1>on our walkabouts, but What if we don't do that anymore?

0:32:38.070 --> 0:32:40.180
<v Speaker 1>What if neither of us check in anymore? What if

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:43.219
<v Speaker 1>we just drop out? Forget all the superhero shit. We

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>did that. What if we just fade away, live our...

0:32:47.700 --> 0:32:51.570
<v Speaker 1>Because there's this really wonderful moment where they both agree,

0:32:51.590 --> 0:32:57.490
<v Speaker 1>this just works. This was an experiment. Can a android man...

0:32:58.020 --> 0:33:02.750
<v Speaker 1>And a mutant witch live together. And clearly they can.

0:33:03.370 --> 0:33:06.410
<v Speaker 1>And so they're really concerned. What if we just forget

0:33:06.530 --> 0:33:09.510
<v Speaker 1>all of that and just live together as man and wife?

0:33:09.830 --> 0:33:12.710
<v Speaker 1>But before Wanda can say yes, and it seems like

0:33:12.750 --> 0:33:15.130
<v Speaker 1>she was getting ready to say yes, they see the

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.180
<v Speaker 1>news report from New York and they realize, oh, shit.

0:33:18.220 --> 0:33:21.300
<v Speaker 1>Now Viz is like, this is about the stone. This

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.660
<v Speaker 1>is what the stone has been trying to tell me.

0:33:25.260 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I need to go on the run now because they're

0:33:27.500 --> 0:33:29.380
<v Speaker 1>going to be after me. But before he can really

0:33:29.420 --> 0:33:32.850
<v Speaker 1>do that, Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight pop out of nowhere.

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.950
<v Speaker 1>And Glaive stabs, or Proxima, I think, stabs Vision with

0:33:38.370 --> 0:33:42.130
<v Speaker 1>that kind of scepter thing she has. And it interferes

0:33:42.170 --> 0:33:44.890
<v Speaker 1>with his phasing and his body self-healing. And he's really

0:33:44.910 --> 0:33:48.630
<v Speaker 1>fucked up. Wanda does a great job fighting them while

0:33:48.670 --> 0:33:51.450
<v Speaker 1>also trying to save Viz. And they end up crashing

0:33:52.030 --> 0:33:54.620
<v Speaker 1>into a train station where we get one of the-

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.100
<v Speaker 1>One of the chill-inducing moments of the MCU.

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we love this moment.

0:34:02.170 --> 0:34:04.930
<v Speaker 5>You get the.

0:34:04.970 --> 0:34:07.190
<v Speaker 1>And there's Captain America. He's behind the train. He's got

0:34:07.210 --> 0:34:11.910
<v Speaker 1>the beard, you know. And they beat the shit out

0:34:11.930 --> 0:34:16.470
<v Speaker 1>of Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight. Black Widow stabs Corvus

0:34:16.510 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Glaive with Proxima's scepter and he's... we find out is

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.300
<v Speaker 1>a mortal wound because he later dies off screen.

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Crazy. Sorry to that Corvus.

0:34:28.100 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Sorry to that Corvus Glaive who had very little screen time.

0:34:32.910 --> 0:34:37.430
<v Speaker 1>And our heroes are back together and rescued. We then flashback.

0:34:38.170 --> 0:34:41.810
<v Speaker 1>We watch and we, I think, we'll later discover from

0:34:41.850 --> 0:34:44.570
<v Speaker 1>the scene that is after this, this is Gamora remembering.

0:34:44.790 --> 0:34:45.660
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:50.540
<v Speaker 1>She's remembering Thanos doing a genocide on her planet. and

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>my guy how he pulled her out of like the

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>death line was like what's wrong why are you crying

0:34:58.020 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>i don't know because you're killing half my planet yeah

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.779
<v Speaker 1>and he's like well let me show you something he

0:35:02.820 --> 0:35:04.609
<v Speaker 1>pulls out his little dagger he does that little thing

0:35:04.630 --> 0:35:06.589
<v Speaker 1>where he balances the dagger on his finger and he's

0:35:06.630 --> 0:35:10.049
<v Speaker 1>like too much this way too much the other and

0:35:10.110 --> 0:35:15.510
<v Speaker 1>he's like that's why i have to kill basically almost

0:35:15.670 --> 0:35:19.529
<v Speaker 1>everyone and isn't that great and then we've reunite with

0:35:19.610 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Gamora modern day she's on the ship she is off

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this and she makes Quill promise like listen

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.540
<v Speaker 1>we're going to confront Thanos on nowhere if I am

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 1>captured by Thanos kill me don't let him take me

0:35:33.980 --> 0:35:35.980
<v Speaker 1>and Quill's like what are you fucking talking about I

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>can't do.

0:35:36.540 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 3>That He's useless, first of all, Gamora. Just so you know,

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:44.010
<v Speaker 3>you picked a losing horse. Losing dog, bad choice. We're

0:35:44.050 --> 0:35:46.049
<v Speaker 3>going to get into it more. But I have to say,

0:35:46.210 --> 0:35:49.290
<v Speaker 3>I love this whole conflict. I actually do not really

0:35:49.330 --> 0:35:51.750
<v Speaker 3>care for Quill or the Guardians particularly.

0:35:51.810 --> 0:35:53.230
<v Speaker 2>It's not my tone of the MCU.

0:35:53.530 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 3>But I think the way they deal with Gamora not

0:35:56.340 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>wanting to be taken by her dad and tortured and

0:35:59.219 --> 0:36:01.180
<v Speaker 3>Quill not wanting to kill the woman he loves is

0:36:01.260 --> 0:36:03.299
<v Speaker 3>actually some of the emotional heart of this movie that

0:36:03.340 --> 0:36:03.940
<v Speaker 3>really works.

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:08.230
<v Speaker 1>I have to say also- With regards to the tone,

0:36:09.070 --> 0:36:11.469
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind it. It's not my favorite either, but

0:36:11.530 --> 0:36:14.730
<v Speaker 1>I like the Guardians. But I think the Russos did

0:36:14.770 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a really good job integrating that very different tone into

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the MCU. I didn't think coming into

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.860
<v Speaker 1>this movie at the time that it would necessarily be

0:36:27.940 --> 0:36:32.190
<v Speaker 1>possible to do it, but they really succeeded in integrating

0:36:32.250 --> 0:36:55.049
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians. Agreed. So they arrive on Nowhere. Thanos has

0:36:55.110 --> 0:36:58.310
<v Speaker 1>already killed the Collector, taken the stone, but he casts

0:36:58.330 --> 0:37:00.380
<v Speaker 1>this illusion so they don't realize that he's done it

0:37:00.390 --> 0:37:05.540
<v Speaker 1>right away. And he does capture Gamora. And she's like, Quill,

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.660
<v Speaker 1>remember that thing that you promised? And he's like, I

0:37:08.700 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>can't do it. I can't do it. But then he

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.450
<v Speaker 1>props to him. He pulls the trigger and is like, okay,

0:37:14.469 --> 0:37:16.230
<v Speaker 1>I will kill you. He closes his eyes and does it.

0:37:16.610 --> 0:37:20.530
<v Speaker 1>But Thanos uses his newly acquired reality stone to turn

0:37:20.590 --> 0:37:24.689
<v Speaker 1>the blasts into like little soap bubbles. And then he's like,

0:37:25.050 --> 0:37:27.460
<v Speaker 1>I like you. And disappears.

0:37:27.580 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 3>I know. He's like, I see why my daughter likes you.

0:37:30.900 --> 0:37:32.989
<v Speaker 3>I have to say as well. Look, I'm not saying

0:37:33.010 --> 0:37:34.610
<v Speaker 3>we should give him a power ring. I know it's

0:37:34.650 --> 0:37:38.870
<v Speaker 3>a different universe, but Thanos' imagination is good. These illusions

0:37:39.010 --> 0:37:41.989
<v Speaker 3>are really, really good. Like the way he plays with reality,

0:37:42.210 --> 0:37:43.930
<v Speaker 3>he would be a great Green Lantern or at least

0:37:44.010 --> 0:37:45.430
<v Speaker 3>a great ring bearer.

0:37:45.450 --> 0:37:47.750
<v Speaker 2>He would have an incredible will and imagination.

0:37:48.450 --> 0:37:51.350
<v Speaker 1>He's quite good at it. We go to the Avengers

0:37:51.390 --> 0:37:55.670
<v Speaker 1>compound upstate New York. Secretary Ross, fucking Thunderbolt Ross, that

0:37:55.690 --> 0:37:59.510
<v Speaker 1>piece of shit is giving Rhodey Giving Rhodey the fucking

0:37:59.570 --> 0:38:03.620
<v Speaker 1>riot act, talking about working with criminals, a.k.a. Steve Rogers

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.420
<v Speaker 1>and the rest. They are known fugitives. You know about them.

0:38:06.460 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>They've broken all kinds of international laws, and yet you've

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.620
<v Speaker 1>called them back in on this. How fucking dare you?

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.489
<v Speaker 1>You're in big trouble, mister. And just as he's saying that,

0:38:18.790 --> 0:38:25.460
<v Speaker 1>in walks Steve, Nat, Sam, and Banner. And they give

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.540
<v Speaker 1>Secretary Ross a little, like, how are you doing? And

0:38:28.580 --> 0:38:29.370
<v Speaker 1>then hang up on him.

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.060
<v Speaker 2>I also want to say, let's give a shout out

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:33.140
<v Speaker 2>for Beard Steve.

0:38:33.460 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 3>It was a big moment at the time. A lot

0:38:35.900 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 3>has happened since. I understand that Steve having a beard

0:38:38.500 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 3>is not that big news now, guys. But in 2019, 2018, 2017,

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.860
<v Speaker 3>we are very excited about Beard Steve. And he's looking

0:38:44.930 --> 0:38:47.270
<v Speaker 3>good in Infinity War, okay?

0:38:47.570 --> 0:38:48.570
<v Speaker 2>It looks beautiful here.

0:38:49.290 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>It looks really, really good. There's no question in my

0:38:52.820 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>mind that him and Nat were having very casual situationship

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 1>sex in this time. Come on, it's been two years.

0:38:59.090 --> 0:39:02.130
<v Speaker 2>Come on. Just the two of them out there as if.

0:39:02.190 --> 0:39:06.570
<v Speaker 1>No, no feelings. Obviously, like Nat understands that Steve's heart's

0:39:06.820 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>elsewhere and that, you know. And I think it was

0:39:09.940 --> 0:39:11.779
<v Speaker 1>just a very casual situation.

0:39:12.110 --> 0:39:14.350
<v Speaker 2>You don't think that they do, like, cosplay? Like, you

0:39:14.390 --> 0:39:15.350
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're doing, like.

0:39:15.989 --> 0:39:17.710
<v Speaker 3>Captain Peggy roleplay?

0:39:17.750 --> 0:39:20.390
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, because she's getting to relive her life.

0:39:20.690 --> 0:39:22.270
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want to think about it, actually.

0:39:22.290 --> 0:39:24.330
<v Speaker 2>Keep it to the situation shit.

0:39:24.370 --> 0:39:25.090
<v Speaker 3>Don't think about it.

0:39:25.090 --> 0:39:28.220
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I don't think Steve has that kind of.

0:39:29.690 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>He's a.

0:39:29.989 --> 0:39:31.930
<v Speaker 3>Little, I feel you. He's a bit vanilla.

0:39:32.230 --> 0:39:40.460
<v Speaker 1>He's a little vanilla. It's just, it's mish for Steve.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.460
<v Speaker 3>Missionary is the mission for Steve Rogers.

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:47.140
<v Speaker 1>Yes. So everybody has had a very, very rough couple years.

0:39:47.700 --> 0:39:50.810
<v Speaker 1>We learned that Clinton Scott took a plea deal. And that,

0:39:51.090 --> 0:39:53.330
<v Speaker 1>so they could, because they couldn't separate from their families.

0:39:53.410 --> 0:39:55.830
<v Speaker 1>You know, Clint Barton, big family man. He's got to

0:39:55.850 --> 0:39:59.890
<v Speaker 1>be on that farm in MAGA country. And of course,

0:40:00.430 --> 0:40:02.570
<v Speaker 1>Scott also had to go back, you know, because of

0:40:02.670 --> 0:40:05.350
<v Speaker 1>his situation in the shared custody with his daughter. But

0:40:05.370 --> 0:40:08.069
<v Speaker 1>of course, nobody knows that right at this very moment. No.

0:40:09.820 --> 0:40:13.540
<v Speaker 1>Scott is in the quantum realm. The Ant-Man. Banner had

0:40:13.620 --> 0:40:17.259
<v Speaker 1>no idea that there was an Ant-Man now. So the

0:40:17.620 --> 0:40:21.399
<v Speaker 1>plan that is kind of coalescing right now is get

0:40:21.420 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the stone out of Vision's head with him alive so

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>that Wanda can destroy it. Vision is like, it's fine

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>if it kills me.

0:40:29.540 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>We can just do that.

0:40:31.860 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fine. And Steve's like, no, no, no, no, no.

0:40:33.980 --> 0:40:35.860
<v Speaker 1>Come on. We're the Avengers. I'm Steve Rogers. Like, I

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.790
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. It's not the way we do it.

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.010
<v Speaker 1>And I know where we can go because there's only

0:40:42.260 --> 0:40:46.620
<v Speaker 1>one lab, one place on Earth that We can pull

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.660
<v Speaker 1>the stone out of a synthezoid's brain that has the

0:40:49.700 --> 0:40:56.060
<v Speaker 1>equipment to do that and has probably the best anti-alien,

0:40:56.300 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>anti-supervillain defenses on Earth. Wakanda. T'Challa has gotten the call.

0:41:03.410 --> 0:41:07.090
<v Speaker 1>He's there. He's prepping the nation for war. He's calling

0:41:07.110 --> 0:41:10.370
<v Speaker 1>in the tribes, calling in all the warriors, getting them ready.

0:41:10.910 --> 0:41:12.810
<v Speaker 1>He goes out to Bucky, who's, I guess, just been

0:41:12.850 --> 0:41:16.300
<v Speaker 1>goat farming for the last couple of years. and brings

0:41:16.340 --> 0:41:19.020
<v Speaker 1>him a new vibranium arm. I assume it's vibranium, right?

0:41:19.180 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 3>It's definitely vibranium. I think that the implication is it's vibranium,

0:41:22.820 --> 0:41:26.390
<v Speaker 3>but we see definitely vibranium. Bucky does not consider, he's

0:41:26.430 --> 0:41:28.810
<v Speaker 3>clearly been lulled into the goat herding life because he

0:41:28.850 --> 0:41:31.070
<v Speaker 3>does not consider that maybe he's not in full control

0:41:31.090 --> 0:41:32.710
<v Speaker 3>of the arm, but we will see that later.

0:41:33.150 --> 0:41:35.049
<v Speaker 2>But I love the vibranium arm. We'd love to see

0:41:35.070 --> 0:41:36.890
<v Speaker 2>the white wolf get his little arm. This was a

0:41:36.910 --> 0:41:38.690
<v Speaker 2>very fun moment. We were all screaming.

0:41:39.350 --> 0:41:42.890
<v Speaker 1>That's probably like a $ 1. 5 billion arm when you think

0:41:42.910 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:41:43.130 --> 0:41:46.390
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think you're talking more in the trillions

0:41:46.450 --> 0:41:49.710
<v Speaker 3>if you think about the actual worth of that vibranium

0:41:49.770 --> 0:41:51.969
<v Speaker 3>at this point in time in history to the rest

0:41:52.010 --> 0:41:56.220
<v Speaker 3>of the world and also the weapons making capabilities. Like

0:41:56.410 --> 0:41:59.259
<v Speaker 3>in liquidity, yes, you could probably sell it on the

0:41:59.300 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 3>black market for one and a half.

0:42:00.540 --> 0:42:02.500
<v Speaker 2>Bill, but it's probably worth so much more.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.620
<v Speaker 3>And they just gave it to this man who two

0:42:04.660 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 3>years ago was still under control of some kind of

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:09.259
<v Speaker 3>Hydra situation.

0:42:09.860 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>We love him. Hey, Steve vouches for him.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Hey, that's his bestie, okay? It's all right.

0:42:14.219 --> 0:42:14.780
<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

0:42:16.380 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>On Ma's donut ship, Strange wakes up. He's surrounded by

0:42:20.140 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 1>all these crystal surgery needles, we find out. And Ma

0:42:24.260 --> 0:42:28.410
<v Speaker 1>again is talking to Shane. Oh, these needles were made

0:42:28.510 --> 0:42:32.290
<v Speaker 1>for microsurgery. What will they do to you? And he's

0:42:32.350 --> 0:42:37.529
<v Speaker 1>putting the needles into Strange's face. But before he can

0:42:37.570 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 1>really go too far... Tony and Peter execute Peter's plan,

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>which is based on, he says aliens. This really old movie. Yeah.

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.660
<v Speaker 1>Remember this really old movie called Aliens? But it also

0:42:49.700 --> 0:42:53.060
<v Speaker 1>works for Alien because in both movies, the alien was

0:42:53.100 --> 0:42:57.540
<v Speaker 1>sucked out of the airlock. So they blow Ma out

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>into space and he freezes and he's dead. Goodbye. After

0:43:01.260 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 1>short intros, Strange and Tony are beefing again where Tony's like,

0:43:04.340 --> 0:43:06.940
<v Speaker 1>I fucking saved your life. Not even a, you're welcome.

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.990
<v Speaker 1>And Strange is like, bro, he's like, You don't get it.

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.819
<v Speaker 1>You don't understand what's going on here. And Tony's like,

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.469
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand. I've been having visions of Thanos for

0:43:15.510 --> 0:43:19.650
<v Speaker 1>six years. And that kind of, I think, impresses Strange.

0:43:19.989 --> 0:43:22.330
<v Speaker 1>He's impressed by shit like that. Because also, it.

0:43:22.950 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Means Tony is open to stuff outside of science. Like,

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.380
<v Speaker 3>he's an open-minded man. He believes that it can be,

0:43:30.140 --> 0:43:31.140
<v Speaker 3>you know, there can be more.

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:35.370
<v Speaker 1>So... Tony is arguing that we go wherever this ship

0:43:35.430 --> 0:43:37.910
<v Speaker 1>is going and we fight Thanos there rather than fight

0:43:37.930 --> 0:43:40.529
<v Speaker 1>him on Earth and Earth gets all fucked up. And

0:43:40.630 --> 0:43:44.489
<v Speaker 1>when Strange realizes, oh, Tony's been having visions, he's like, okay,

0:43:44.530 --> 0:43:47.090
<v Speaker 1>maybe this is the way to go. But he stresses

0:43:47.270 --> 0:43:51.330
<v Speaker 1>to both Tony and Peter, he's like, listen, if saving

0:43:51.370 --> 0:43:55.140
<v Speaker 1>the stone means that both of you die, then that's

0:43:55.180 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 1>what has to happen. Like, I will save the stone

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and sacrifice you to In the process, if it comes

0:44:02.260 --> 0:44:06.100
<v Speaker 1>to that, just so you're aware. And Peter's like, oh shit.

0:44:06.820 --> 0:44:10.180
<v Speaker 1>On Thanos's capital ship in the throne room, which is,

0:44:10.780 --> 0:44:16.140
<v Speaker 1>I think we discover from this scene that the scenes

0:44:16.260 --> 0:44:20.010
<v Speaker 1>from Marvel's The Avengers, where the other is talking to

0:44:20.140 --> 0:44:23.010
<v Speaker 1>Thanos on what we thought was just like open space,

0:44:23.070 --> 0:44:28.730
<v Speaker 1>like on a asteroid, was actually this interior. Yeah. This

0:44:28.850 --> 0:44:33.210
<v Speaker 1>weird open-air interior of Thanos' capital ship, which is made

0:44:33.250 --> 0:44:34.910
<v Speaker 1>to look like an asteroid.

0:44:35.210 --> 0:44:36.270
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really good.

0:44:36.930 --> 0:44:39.670
<v Speaker 3>Gives you the kind of scope of how big he is,

0:44:39.730 --> 0:44:42.410
<v Speaker 3>how organized he is, how long he's been planning this.

0:44:42.850 --> 0:44:45.330
<v Speaker 2>At no point do you ever feel like Thanos is behind.

0:44:45.630 --> 0:44:47.850
<v Speaker 3>He's always two steps ahead, which I think is what

0:44:47.890 --> 0:44:51.399
<v Speaker 3>is so engaging about watching this film. It's very rare

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>that we get to see a villain be ahead and win, honestly.

0:44:55.460 --> 0:44:58.890
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He brings Gamora, like, I think some soup.

0:44:59.469 --> 0:45:00.770
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some kind of stew.

0:45:00.870 --> 0:45:06.230
<v Speaker 3>Some kind of bad father stew. Here's the daddy issue goulash, babe. Like,

0:45:06.250 --> 0:45:07.550
<v Speaker 3>hope it makes you feel better.

0:45:09.450 --> 0:45:11.670
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I hate you. I hate that I

0:45:11.710 --> 0:45:14.290
<v Speaker 1>was raised by you. I'm not your daughter. I don't

0:45:14.350 --> 0:45:18.500
<v Speaker 1>like you. Like, I hate what you're doing. I hate

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>your old mission in life. Your fucking philosophy is stupid.

0:45:21.900 --> 0:45:25.379
<v Speaker 1>You're a genocidal maniac. He's like, Gamora, how many times

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>do we have to talk about this?

0:45:26.700 --> 0:45:28.020
<v Speaker 3>He's like, come on, babe.

0:45:28.700 --> 0:45:32.700
<v Speaker 1>I have to kill half the beings in the universe. Like,

0:45:32.780 --> 0:45:36.219
<v Speaker 1>that's what has to happen. And it'll make, you don't understand, Gamora,

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:37.299
<v Speaker 1>it'll make everything better.

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:37.700
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be great.

0:45:38.620 --> 0:45:42.890
<v Speaker 1>It'll make everything better. And I am, I guess, sadly,

0:45:42.930 --> 0:45:44.750
<v Speaker 1>the only one with the will to do it. You

0:45:45.750 --> 0:45:47.260
<v Speaker 1>used to be a person with the will to do it.

0:45:47.290 --> 0:45:49.489
<v Speaker 1>Now you don't anymore. But I have the will to

0:45:49.530 --> 0:45:51.989
<v Speaker 1>do it. And you're gonna see, it's gonna make everything

0:45:52.110 --> 0:45:55.540
<v Speaker 1>fucking great. She's like, you're a piece of shit, which

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.240
<v Speaker 1>only makes him like her more.

0:45:57.260 --> 0:46:00.230
<v Speaker 3>He loves it. He loves to be told what, no,

0:46:00.270 --> 0:46:03.709
<v Speaker 3>there is actually like an older generation of like grandpa

0:46:03.810 --> 0:46:06.330
<v Speaker 3>or uncle who they only really respect you if you

0:46:06.350 --> 0:46:06.930
<v Speaker 3>tell them off.

0:46:07.290 --> 0:46:07.509
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:46:07.590 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 2>And this is definitely giving that energy.

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.700
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'd like you to see something pretty crazy.

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.660
<v Speaker 1>He takes her to see Nebula, who he's got in

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:19.219
<v Speaker 1>his torture chamber. She's like pulled apart, you know, like,

0:46:20.010 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and in what, also would be a marvel one shot

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 1>in the comics we learned that nebula snuck onto the

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.060
<v Speaker 1>ship some time ago and came very close to killing

0:46:30.100 --> 0:46:37.020
<v Speaker 1>thanos very very close and he's like but she failed

0:46:37.300 --> 0:46:39.570
<v Speaker 1>and now i'm going to torture her in front of

0:46:39.620 --> 0:46:41.370
<v Speaker 1>you unless you tell me where the soul stone is

0:46:41.530 --> 0:46:46.029
<v Speaker 1>so he's torturing nebula to get gamora to tell him

0:46:46.090 --> 0:46:47.969
<v Speaker 1>where the soul stone is and she's like i have

0:46:48.469 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about? I don't know where it is.

0:46:49.930 --> 0:46:52.170
<v Speaker 1>Please stop doing this. And he's like, oh yeah? And

0:46:52.210 --> 0:46:57.739
<v Speaker 1>then he plays memories that he had taken from Nebula's

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:01.940
<v Speaker 1>mind in which, and it's a conversation between Nebula and

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.419
<v Speaker 1>Gamora where they're talking about making sure that Thanos never

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 1>finds the soul stone in the door.

0:47:07.100 --> 0:47:07.690
<v Speaker 3>Aye, aye, aye.

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 5>Aye, aye, aye.

0:47:09.219 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>You got to erase that stuff!

0:47:10.460 --> 0:47:12.859
<v Speaker 3>You got to erase it, especially because it seems like

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.620
<v Speaker 3>when he was, you know, torturing Nebula as a child,

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:18.180
<v Speaker 3>he sort of made her, remade her into this sort

0:47:18.219 --> 0:47:21.379
<v Speaker 3>of warrior. Also, I have to say, you know what?

0:47:22.020 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 3>karen you also get a little shout out here because

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:29.350
<v Speaker 3>what an introduction karen gillen this is so huge and

0:47:29.390 --> 0:47:32.089
<v Speaker 3>nebula is such a part of what is amazing about

0:47:32.130 --> 0:47:34.969
<v Speaker 3>the future of the mcu and everything from here it's

0:47:35.010 --> 0:47:37.270
<v Speaker 3>such a great introduction but yeah babe if your eyes

0:47:37.330 --> 0:47:39.910
<v Speaker 3>are like recorders and your dad can just usb plug

0:47:39.930 --> 0:47:42.339
<v Speaker 3>into your head don't do it don't talk about him

0:47:42.380 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 3>in front of it like do that via writing down

0:47:44.580 --> 0:47:46.280
<v Speaker 3>or braille or some way he can't.

0:47:46.100 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Tell yeah so finally gamora has no choice and she's

0:47:50.060 --> 0:47:53.069
<v Speaker 1>like it's on vormir it's on We go to Nidavellir.

0:47:53.810 --> 0:47:57.710
<v Speaker 1>The forge is dead. The ring is frozen. All the

0:47:57.750 --> 0:48:00.610
<v Speaker 1>machinery is broken. The last dwarf alive is Peter Dinklage,

0:48:00.630 --> 0:48:01.690
<v Speaker 1>who is nine feet tall.

0:48:01.710 --> 0:48:02.590
<v Speaker 2>Love that twist.

0:48:03.410 --> 0:48:08.030
<v Speaker 1>It's so good. And apparently it was Eitri who forged

0:48:08.090 --> 0:48:13.660
<v Speaker 1>the gauntlet for Thanos. Uh-oh. And Thanos then killed all

0:48:13.700 --> 0:48:19.339
<v Speaker 1>the dwarves anyway and melted Eitri's hands into metal so

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:22.700
<v Speaker 1>he could never make anything again. And there's this whole

0:48:22.780 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>rigmarole now, this side quest that Thor and Rocket and

0:48:26.580 --> 0:48:30.140
<v Speaker 1>Eitri have to do, which involves restarting the forge, which

0:48:30.219 --> 0:48:34.380
<v Speaker 1>involves harnessing the power of a star, which involves Rocket

0:48:34.420 --> 0:48:38.570
<v Speaker 1>going outside with his little pod ship. And it looks

0:48:38.610 --> 0:48:41.330
<v Speaker 1>like it's going to be very, very, very hard.

0:48:41.370 --> 0:48:42.250
<v Speaker 2>Definitely hard.

0:48:42.989 --> 0:48:46.310
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, on Thanos' ship, Nebula manages to escape, and she

0:48:46.590 --> 0:48:50.370
<v Speaker 1>fires off a message to Mantis, which is, Guardians, meet

0:48:50.430 --> 0:48:54.500
<v Speaker 1>me on Titan. Big stuff going down on Titan. On Titan,

0:48:55.060 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 1>which is where the donut ship is currently crashing, Tony, Peter,

0:49:01.020 --> 0:49:03.740
<v Speaker 1>and Strange find that the world is totally fucking dead.

0:49:04.380 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 1>The Guardians show up. There's a brief hero on hero

0:49:07.469 --> 0:49:09.930
<v Speaker 1>scrap until they all realize they're all on the same side.

0:49:09.950 --> 0:49:10.750
<v Speaker 1>They want to kill Thanos.

0:49:11.030 --> 0:49:11.670
<v Speaker 2>Great writing.

0:49:12.150 --> 0:49:12.510
<v Speaker 1>Fun.

0:49:12.710 --> 0:49:14.070
<v Speaker 3>Exactly what you want.

0:49:14.210 --> 0:49:14.730
<v Speaker 2>Comic book.

0:49:14.750 --> 0:49:14.969
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:49:14.989 --> 0:49:15.489
<v Speaker 2>Whippy.

0:49:15.610 --> 0:49:16.310
<v Speaker 3>Bantha.

0:49:16.410 --> 0:49:19.410
<v Speaker 2>It's exactly what people love about the MCU, this sequence.

0:49:19.469 --> 0:49:25.580
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. perfect. They argue about the plan. Okay, what's the plan?

0:49:25.620 --> 0:49:27.799
<v Speaker 1>How do we kill him? They realize Quill hasn't been

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:30.550
<v Speaker 1>on Earth since the 80s. His pop culture references are very,

0:49:30.590 --> 0:49:35.430
<v Speaker 1>very dated. Meanwhile, Strange is meditating in his fast forward

0:49:35.450 --> 0:49:38.660
<v Speaker 1>time meditation and And he comes out of it, and

0:49:38.700 --> 0:49:44.910
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I just viewed 14,605,000 futures to see how

0:49:45.410 --> 0:49:49.910
<v Speaker 1>it shakes out this coming war with Thanos. And Stark

0:49:49.969 --> 0:49:54.190
<v Speaker 1>is like, okay, what's our win percentage? And Strange is like,

0:49:54.469 --> 0:49:59.470
<v Speaker 1>one out of 14,605,000. So that's really bad. We go

0:49:59.489 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to Vormir. Stonekeeper, it turns out, is the Red Skull,

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.290
<v Speaker 1>marooned here since World War II. Woo! when, recall, he

0:50:06.370 --> 0:50:11.510
<v Speaker 1>placed his hand on the Bear Tesseract in his Valkyrie

0:50:11.570 --> 0:50:16.350
<v Speaker 1>bomber heading towards New York City and was zapped into space.

0:50:17.110 --> 0:50:19.470
<v Speaker 1>The stone is hidden somewhere on the planet, cannot be

0:50:19.570 --> 0:50:23.460
<v Speaker 1>accessed at all unless the price is paid and the

0:50:23.500 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>price is a soul. Thanos is sad about it. He's crying.

0:50:29.100 --> 0:50:30.860
<v Speaker 3>He's a little sad.

0:50:31.850 --> 0:50:36.569
<v Speaker 1>He's genuinely feeling bad about it, but he also does

0:50:36.610 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it without any hesitation. He throws Gamora to her death,

0:50:40.540 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and then he wakes up in this calming pool of weird,

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:49.270
<v Speaker 1>misty water, and he's got the Soul Stone. Meanwhile, Wakanda,

0:50:50.090 --> 0:50:53.830
<v Speaker 1>the Black Order dropships have come in. They release their dog-like...

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Outrider creatures.

0:50:56.739 --> 0:50:59.060
<v Speaker 3>Another thing I don't love, another design I feel like

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 3>they kind of rushed.

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:03.180
<v Speaker 2>It's very, it's just whatever.

0:51:03.260 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like, it's not the black or it's not like

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:09.439
<v Speaker 3>the design level, the production, the wrecking. No one's got

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:13.020
<v Speaker 3>a figure of the Outrider animals. You know what I mean?

0:51:13.140 --> 0:51:15.359
<v Speaker 2>It's like, it feels like a little bit of they

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what to do.

0:51:16.380 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 3>It's my other only click.

0:51:18.820 --> 0:51:21.739
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with you. I think if we could

0:51:21.780 --> 0:51:26.950
<v Speaker 1>have done something more orcish, here, you know, whatever.

0:51:26.969 --> 0:51:30.290
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's other options, but we got many movies in

0:51:30.310 --> 0:51:31.470
<v Speaker 3>the MCU to take from.

0:51:32.340 --> 0:51:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Whatever the case may be, the fight here is truly awesome.

0:51:37.300 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 2>So sick.

0:51:38.460 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Banner is in Hulkbuster armor now, which I guess they

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:44.450
<v Speaker 1>just have on Wakanda, and it's a great, great fight. Meanwhile,

0:51:44.489 --> 0:51:47.970
<v Speaker 1>on Titan, the Tony-led team fights Thanos, and their plan

0:51:48.010 --> 0:51:50.589
<v Speaker 1>is actually very, very good, which is to keep him

0:51:50.610 --> 0:51:55.370
<v Speaker 1>from closing his fist, put Mantis... In a position to

0:51:55.770 --> 0:52:02.500
<v Speaker 1>work her little magical empathy powers on him. And it's

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of going okay until Nebula arrives. And then they

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.770
<v Speaker 1>get it. They lock him up. They have him so

0:52:09.810 --> 0:52:13.030
<v Speaker 1>he can't close his fist. His arms are separated. Mantis

0:52:13.350 --> 0:52:16.910
<v Speaker 1>drops out of portal onto his shoulders. She's keeping him contained.

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.100
<v Speaker 1>And now it's just like, pull that fucking glove off

0:52:20.140 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of him.

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.300
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna happen. It's great.

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 1>It's 100% gonna work. But then Peter Quill... fucks up

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:28.460
<v Speaker 1>the whole.

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:32.620
<v Speaker 4>Thing this fucking guy one of the most frustrating moments

0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:36.260
<v Speaker 4>to re-watch in the MCU like no joke it stresses

0:52:36.300 --> 0:52:39.700
<v Speaker 4>me out so much every time such.

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:42.660
<v Speaker 3>Good writing to make the audience mad and make the

0:52:42.700 --> 0:52:44.859
<v Speaker 3>audience hate a character I don't think he's ever been

0:52:44.900 --> 0:52:47.740
<v Speaker 3>able to come back I don't think there's any dispute

0:52:47.780 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 3>in the fandom that if he had not freaked out

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 3>this plan would have worked and they would have got

0:52:52.900 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 3>the gauntlet off Thanos and stopped all of this like

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:56.580
<v Speaker 3>no question.

0:52:57.110 --> 0:53:00.810
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's right now trillions of lives hanging in

0:53:00.850 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the balance and Peter can't get his head in the game.

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:04.430
<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous.

0:53:04.510 --> 0:53:07.460
<v Speaker 1>Because he is just kind of like getting through the

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:10.540
<v Speaker 1>mumblings of Thanos that it really does seem like Gamora's

0:53:10.620 --> 0:53:13.580
<v Speaker 1>dead and that he killed him. And he's being like,

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:16.380
<v Speaker 1>tell me the truth, like do it. And like Thanos is,

0:53:16.500 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like in this kind of like hazy state

0:53:19.620 --> 0:53:24.339
<v Speaker 1>in which Mantis is struggling, struggling to keep him in that.

0:53:25.219 --> 0:53:28.420
<v Speaker 1>And he breaks out, of course, and beats them all.

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:33.590
<v Speaker 1>And it fucking sucks. Meanwhile, in Wakanda, things are going good,

0:53:33.650 --> 0:53:36.130
<v Speaker 1>and then they're going okay, but then they're going bad.

0:53:36.270 --> 0:53:39.270
<v Speaker 1>And then Thor shows up with his newly forged Stormbreaker

0:53:39.790 --> 0:53:43.790
<v Speaker 1>with a teen Groot handle. Yay! And kind of turns

0:53:43.850 --> 0:53:47.070
<v Speaker 1>the tide back to, it's going good. Back on Titan,

0:53:48.390 --> 0:53:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, Thanos is wiped the decks with everybody. He

0:53:52.260 --> 0:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>smashed the nanotech Mark 50 armor to the point that

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:58.969
<v Speaker 1>like Tony's looking at him through like a hole in

0:53:59.010 --> 0:54:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the mask and his like gloves are off and he

0:54:02.300 --> 0:54:08.169
<v Speaker 1>stabbed through the guts and strange to save Tony's life

0:54:08.230 --> 0:54:10.029
<v Speaker 1>and kind of to save all of their lives right

0:54:10.070 --> 0:54:14.549
<v Speaker 1>there decides, you know what? Hail Mary pass. I'm going

0:54:14.570 --> 0:54:16.850
<v Speaker 1>to give you the time stone because in that one,

0:54:17.310 --> 0:54:21.339
<v Speaker 1>we later you figure out on your own. But in

0:54:21.380 --> 0:54:26.500
<v Speaker 1>the one situation in which they win, it unfolds like this.

0:54:26.580 --> 0:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>So he gives Thanos the Time Stone. No tricks. Just

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:32.029
<v Speaker 1>lets him walk away with it. Stark is like, you

0:54:32.180 --> 0:54:34.190
<v Speaker 1>fucking idiot. I'm going to kill you.

0:54:34.250 --> 0:54:37.089
<v Speaker 3>How could you do this?

0:54:37.110 --> 0:54:42.460
<v Speaker 1>So he portals to Wakanda. by this time they flushed

0:54:42.620 --> 0:54:45.800
<v Speaker 1>out Scarlet Witch who joins the battle on the field.

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.580
<v Speaker 1>And Okoye is like, why wasn't she with us at

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the beginning?

0:54:49.060 --> 0:54:52.450
<v Speaker 2>Why wasn't she at the front? Why wasn't she here

0:54:52.469 --> 0:54:53.450
<v Speaker 2>the whole time? Correct.

0:54:53.570 --> 0:54:55.290
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's asking the same thing, Okoye.

0:54:55.469 --> 0:54:56.290
<v Speaker 2>Everyone wants to know.

0:54:56.950 --> 0:55:00.950
<v Speaker 1>Vision is flushed out of the lab and goes running around.

0:55:01.350 --> 0:55:04.609
<v Speaker 1>Wanda and Steve go to help him. And now it's

0:55:04.650 --> 0:55:07.569
<v Speaker 1>desperation time and they realize, okay, you know, Wanda comes

0:55:07.650 --> 0:55:10.660
<v Speaker 1>to terms with the fact that like, I have to

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>kill my love, Vision, in order to save the universe

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:19.140
<v Speaker 1>from Thanos and him having all six stones. So she

0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:23.300
<v Speaker 1>uses her hex powers to basically destroy Vision and shatter

0:55:23.580 --> 0:55:26.740
<v Speaker 1>the stone in him into a million, billion, trillion pieces.

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:31.279
<v Speaker 1>And it's heartbreaking. Terrible. And we've won. The price has

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:35.100
<v Speaker 1>been terrible, but the good guys have won. And all

0:55:35.140 --> 0:55:35.950
<v Speaker 1>this time, Steve is.

0:55:38.010 --> 0:55:41.629
<v Speaker 1>Fighting Thanos, who he's totally outmatched by, but is just

0:55:41.670 --> 0:55:45.050
<v Speaker 1>trying to slow him down. Thanos comes over and realizes, fuck,

0:55:45.110 --> 0:55:47.299
<v Speaker 1>they destroyed the stone. But then he's like, oh yeah,

0:55:47.380 --> 0:55:49.180
<v Speaker 1>watch this. And he takes the time stone and he

0:55:49.219 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>rewinds time. No, no, no.

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:57.060
<v Speaker 3>I hate to see this sequence. It's so heartbreaking. Elizabeth Olsa,

0:55:57.140 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 3>get your awards, baby.

0:55:58.620 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 2>They owed you for this one.

0:55:59.920 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 3>You were selling it. I believe you are heartbroken killing

0:56:03.260 --> 0:56:04.940
<v Speaker 3>that man and watching him die again.

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:12.290
<v Speaker 1>And one wonders- Is this a moment that changes things,

0:56:12.390 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 1>causes incursions? Because he changes time. He rolls back time,

0:56:17.020 --> 0:56:21.359
<v Speaker 1>but only in the area around where Vision was. So

0:56:21.620 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>only right there, like the rest of the world does

0:56:24.100 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>not go back two minutes or whatever. Just like this

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:33.219
<v Speaker 1>12 meter orb around where Vision had been destroyed and

0:56:33.700 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 1>recreates him. plucks the stone out of his head, he

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:42.300
<v Speaker 1>falls lifelessly to the ground, and he puts the fucking

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.839
<v Speaker 1>stone in the gauntlet, he snaps his fingers, and then

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>he's like, and he leaves. Steve's like, what happened?

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Did we do it? You've got to do the Thor thing,

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:54.500
<v Speaker 2>where Thor almost kills him.

0:56:55.180 --> 0:56:55.840
<v Speaker 5>Oh, yeah, Thor.

0:56:55.860 --> 0:56:56.739
<v Speaker 2>He chops him in the chest.

0:56:56.760 --> 0:57:01.260
<v Speaker 1>That's right, yeah. Thor comes in, drops from the sky,

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:07.819
<v Speaker 1>and throws his hammer... Down at Thanos and then like

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.380
<v Speaker 1>brings it down and gets it into his chest. And

0:57:10.420 --> 0:57:15.150
<v Speaker 1>Thanos is like, it's again, you feel like, oh shit,

0:57:15.210 --> 0:57:18.170
<v Speaker 1>we're going to win. It's really going to happen. But

0:57:18.210 --> 0:57:21.910
<v Speaker 1>then it doesn't. And then he just like disappears and everybody,

0:57:22.110 --> 0:57:26.270
<v Speaker 1>half the people here start turning to dust, including Peter Parker,

0:57:26.310 --> 0:57:29.510
<v Speaker 1>who we watch deliver that Tom Holland improvised line.

0:57:30.210 --> 0:57:30.610
<v Speaker 2>So good.

0:57:30.670 --> 0:57:35.380
<v Speaker 1>Bucky, Bucky goes down. Black Panther goes down. A lot

0:57:35.420 --> 0:57:38.980
<v Speaker 1>of heavy hitters just kind of disappear from the field.

0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And we go to Thanos' garden planet where Thanos, wounded

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.950
<v Speaker 1>from the battle, is watching the sun come up on

0:57:47.970 --> 0:57:50.430
<v Speaker 1>a grateful universe and he has won. That's the end

0:57:50.470 --> 0:57:52.310
<v Speaker 1>of the movie. It was a shocking end of the movie.

0:57:53.230 --> 0:57:57.090
<v Speaker 1>Mid-credit scene. Nick Fury and Maria Hill are driving through

0:57:57.110 --> 0:57:59.930
<v Speaker 1>New York City talking about everything that's going on that's

0:57:59.970 --> 0:58:04.270
<v Speaker 1>really bad. The alien invasion and, you know, what is it? Hill,

0:58:04.710 --> 0:58:08.470
<v Speaker 1>you know, they all of a sudden see cars crashing

0:58:08.610 --> 0:58:10.830
<v Speaker 1>and like a helicopter is falling out of the sky.

0:58:11.050 --> 0:58:12.170
<v Speaker 2>Scary stuff.

0:58:13.250 --> 0:58:16.270
<v Speaker 1>Fury looks back at Hill. She turns into dust. She's gone.

0:58:16.650 --> 0:58:19.730
<v Speaker 1>Fury's like, oh, fuck. Like this. He pulls a pager

0:58:19.870 --> 0:58:21.990
<v Speaker 1>out of his pocket. He's like, this is like my

0:58:22.110 --> 0:58:25.530
<v Speaker 1>break glass in case of emergency thing. Punches in a code.

0:58:25.810 --> 0:58:28.330
<v Speaker 1>Just as he turns to dust, the pager hits the ground.

0:58:28.370 --> 0:58:31.110
<v Speaker 1>But he did manage to fire off an intergalactic message

0:58:31.190 --> 0:58:36.700
<v Speaker 1>to Carol Danvers. Ooh, and let's take a break here.

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.740
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back to talk about why this movie is

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:44.460
<v Speaker 1>one of the 15 projects that leads to Doomsday. And

0:58:44.500 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>we are back. Rosie, if you need... Infinity War, what

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:10.410
<v Speaker 1>a great MCU movie. Woo! Why do you think... What

0:59:10.430 --> 0:59:12.710
<v Speaker 1>do you think it is about this project that is

0:59:12.730 --> 0:59:16.250
<v Speaker 1>going to be important for Doomsday?

0:59:16.950 --> 0:59:19.090
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, you know that we're leading into Endgame.

0:59:19.110 --> 0:59:23.070
<v Speaker 3>So the connective tissue here and the fact they're releasing Endgame.

0:59:22.710 --> 0:59:23.910
<v Speaker 2>Is your big obvious version.

0:59:24.390 --> 0:59:26.750
<v Speaker 3>But there is a lot of stuff here, like we mentioned.

0:59:26.810 --> 0:59:29.570
<v Speaker 2>There are touches from First Avenger here.

0:59:29.630 --> 0:59:33.650
<v Speaker 3>These things do start to seem like they are connecting.

0:59:34.010 --> 0:59:39.420
<v Speaker 3>The question is, where are the threads and, you know,

0:59:39.460 --> 0:59:41.740
<v Speaker 3>I guess what would have been at different times the

0:59:41.780 --> 0:59:45.020
<v Speaker 3>kind of offshoots of the timeline that this is going

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 3>to have created that are going to cause those problems?

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:49.180
<v Speaker 2>That's our big question, right?

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:59:49.860 --> 0:59:51.020
<v Speaker 2>So I do think you're right.

0:59:51.060 --> 0:59:53.820
<v Speaker 3>I think the Thanos time, the little two minute time

0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 3>is very interesting. I also think that honestly, in that

0:59:57.320 --> 1:00:00.910
<v Speaker 3>two year, three year period, while Scarlet Witch and Vision

1:00:00.930 --> 1:00:03.010
<v Speaker 3>were on the run, they were living a stolen life.

1:00:03.140 --> 1:00:06.130
<v Speaker 2>You know, we could be seeing Doom.

1:00:06.730 --> 1:00:09.930
<v Speaker 3>Be hunting down vengeance for things we haven't even seen.

1:00:10.290 --> 1:00:12.930
<v Speaker 3>Like we assume it's all about Steve, but there are

1:00:12.990 --> 1:00:16.230
<v Speaker 3>moments here where you realize, oh, actually there are other

1:00:16.290 --> 1:00:20.570
<v Speaker 3>things that could have continued on. if these people had

1:00:20.690 --> 1:00:21.970
<v Speaker 3>not been living their own lives.

1:00:22.630 --> 1:00:28.140
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. And I think if the theory

1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that Wanda is one of Doom's witches is right, then

1:00:34.180 --> 1:00:40.140
<v Speaker 1>what if he's not just fighting, he's not just doing

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever he's doing because of something that was stolen from him.

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:45.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like all of them feel like something was stolen.

1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:49.820
<v Speaker 1>And I wonder if Wanda isn't doing this because she

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:53.620
<v Speaker 1>feels like that life that she was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>with Vision wasn't stolen from her. And that also is

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect tie-in to some of the Loki stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly is a huge, huge emotional arc in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, it ties back to what she says to Doctor

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<v Speaker 3>Strange in Multiverse of Madness. You get to break the

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<v Speaker 3>rules and you get put on a lunchbox and I

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<v Speaker 3>do it and I'm a villain, right? Right. That is

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<v Speaker 3>very much something that Doom could play on with Wanda,

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like, oh, so it's a problem for you

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<v Speaker 3>to go and get your kids back? But when Steve

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<v Speaker 3>does it, he goes and gets to have a whole

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<v Speaker 3>second life?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that not an issue for you?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is.

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<v Speaker 1>A really interesting... takeaway.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping no Black Order, obviously, calling that in. Thanos,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, you know, we have talked about the potential

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<v Speaker 3>of seeing various versions of him.

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<v Speaker 2>There are clones of him in the comic books. Will

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<v Speaker 2>we get a Thanos callback?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe. I mean, I think the biggest things here are really,

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<v Speaker 3>look at the players. Look at the way this is

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<v Speaker 3>stitched together. This is a story told across a world.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like how they're going to have to do

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<v Speaker 3>battle worlds. You're going to have multiple different people all over.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to have to establish that there are different loyalties,

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<v Speaker 3>different teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a narrative playbook of how they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do Secret Wars.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be story told in a

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<v Speaker 3>similar way where we're following all different groups. The question is,

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<v Speaker 3>what do they add to Endgame? to state that it

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<v Speaker 3>is most important. That's what I'm interested in. Because like,

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<v Speaker 3>we could be reading everything into this. And I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say, we have a pretty good track record of

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<v Speaker 3>getting things right. We're decent. It's not too bad, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as people who love outrageous theories. But Jason, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>thinking kind of aside, because we always start these conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with impending doomsday with kind of laying out the basic

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<v Speaker 3>groundwork of why it's included just You know, Disney chose it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the stepping stones. What's your kind of more

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<v Speaker 2>out there version?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what's your craziest theory you came away with after

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<v Speaker 3>watching this time?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my out there version is some version of that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the motivation for Wanda joining Doom. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Her losing vision, being forced to kill him, being forced

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<v Speaker 1>to watch him like be brought back through time, reassembled,

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<v Speaker 1>then killed again. Like, I'm sorry, that is so fucking traumatic.

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<v Speaker 3>She never had to kill him either because Thanos was

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<v Speaker 3>still going to take the stone.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Great point. And I also wonder if the 14 million

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<v Speaker 1>is not something because Strange kind of, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a cheat, right? He looks forward in all these universes,

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<v Speaker 1>sees the one in which they win. And now you wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>did he just stop when they won? Because it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like if he would have watched a little after that,

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<v Speaker 1>he might have seen this. So does he know that

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<v Speaker 1>this is coming when he picks the one- in which

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<v Speaker 1>they win the battle but potentially lose the Doom War.

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<v Speaker 3>This is great because I think you make a good

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<v Speaker 3>point because also this brings into the question a multiverse

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<v Speaker 3>of madness where Doom, I mean, not Doom, where Strange,

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<v Speaker 3>there is a version of him who wants to beat

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<v Speaker 3>Thanos and decides to do it a different way. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't work, leads to the incursion. So Strange can

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<v Speaker 3>see how these fail in different places. But I love

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<v Speaker 3>this idea of, But in the moment, he was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how we can survive a year, five years.

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<v Speaker 2>However long, right?

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<v Speaker 3>But the reality of that, especially if we start to

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<v Speaker 3>think about the prominence of Doctor Strange in this story

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<v Speaker 3>and the prominence of the Ancient One in Endgame, how

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<v Speaker 3>the stones are returned and how the Sanctum Sanctorum feels

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<v Speaker 3>about protecting the time stone could heavily play into what

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to see. Because I did, it did strike

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<v Speaker 3>me as kind of crazy when I watched this, how

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<v Speaker 3>Strange is just like, I can't destroy it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my job. And I was like, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there should have been more of a.

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<v Speaker 3>Conversation there before we killed the sentient android. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>interested to know if those choices or the way that

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<v Speaker 3>the Sanctum Sanctorum and the Ancient One choose to say

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<v Speaker 3>to Banner, put them back here, put them back here.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that just what protected them? Does it actually align

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<v Speaker 2>with the rest of the universe?

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<v Speaker 3>Or have we just been doing the bidding of the

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<v Speaker 3>Sorcerer Supreme and the Ancient One?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested. And as we know from Endgame... Strange's story

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<v Speaker 1>is that actually I can't tell you how it unfolds.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you about how the one fate unfolds

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<v Speaker 1>or else it won't happen. Yeah. Which true or untrue

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<v Speaker 1>basically means that only Strange knows what that is and

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<v Speaker 1>what happens next. So yes, I do think that's my

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<v Speaker 1>most crazy theory. What's your most crazy theory?

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<v Speaker 2>I really, I love that one a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>My most crazy theory after watching this, I would love

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<v Speaker 3>to see Doom.

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<v Speaker 2>Connected to Wakanda.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always thought that Latveria and Wakanda were very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>They're both isolationist states. I think there's something interesting to

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<v Speaker 3>draw on there. I think the death of T'Challa, the Void,

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<v Speaker 3>the implications with Namor. I don't know. I just feel

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<v Speaker 3>like Wakanda is so focused here. We're remembering again that Shuri.

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<v Speaker 2>Is one of the smartest people in the world. She's

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<v Speaker 2>the only person they could come to for this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just wondering how Wakanda is going to play into

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<v Speaker 3>it and whether or not they are going to lean

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<v Speaker 3>into the clear parallels between Latveria and Wakanda and Doom

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<v Speaker 3>and T'Challa and all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I think... Working out how that connects is my most

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<v Speaker 3>interesting kind of big theory. But I would also say

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<v Speaker 3>as well, just like the Tony Stark of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do we stand on this? Like, is it him?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a variant him? They've said it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>variant him. But obviously people, if they see the face,

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<v Speaker 3>are going to know it's him. I love a Doom

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<v Speaker 3>who never takes off the mask, but we've yet to

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<v Speaker 3>have that in the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think we're going to get it. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel like after watching Infinity War, do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think they're going to have a Pepperdew moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you think is going to be the.

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<v Speaker 3>Big heavy hitter for that big, oh my God, is

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<v Speaker 3>it you kind of, I guess Tom Holland would be

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<v Speaker 3>the big one?

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder if what, like what if they make

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<v Speaker 1>RDJ look so different through makeup Contact lenses and CG.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love that. That he literally is, that there would

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<v Speaker 1>be no question that he is actually a different guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Could that be? I think that there's a world in

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<v Speaker 1>which they do that. He takes off the mask and

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<v Speaker 1>he's this really smooth faced, beautiful, like Nordic looking guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do something different. Do something unexpected.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, my favorite version of Doom is that version

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<v Speaker 3>where he doesn't even really he's got like a tiny

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<v Speaker 3>scar and he just wears it for vanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's not like he's got a terrible scarred face.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's a really cool idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see them do something a bit more transformative.

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<v Speaker 3>And we know that RDJ is not afraid of being

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<v Speaker 3>a bit silly with this role because the accent is

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<v Speaker 3>very Transylvanian. So maybe there will be a little camp

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, I think that something in these movies has to

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<v Speaker 1>be Doom's backstory. Because... Or has to play into Doom's backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's not how Marvel usually does it. And it

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<v Speaker 1>would feel very abrupt to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we were building up to Thanos and it's true

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't get a lot to him, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is starting from basically a complete stop to a sprint.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had one scene of Doom, like that was post-credits

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't even played by RDJ. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say it was just like the

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<v Speaker 3>Avengers one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason, if you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying, and this is hard, so this is a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of Mad Libs, but if you're looking at X,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>X-Men 1, X2, Captain America, First.

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<v Speaker 3>Avenger, Avengers, Infinity War, out of all of those movies,

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<v Speaker 3>do you see a moment or a top three moments

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<v Speaker 3>that could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Doom, this is why he's here. This is him being created.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Charles, right?

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<v Speaker 3>We think that Charles doing his psychic seizure could definitely

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<v Speaker 3>be one of them. What do you think about anything

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<v Speaker 3>from Captain America that's really, obviously the.

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<v Speaker 2>Date was important, but anything else in there?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the Vormir portal, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Skull somehow being transported elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Stolen life.

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<v Speaker 1>Stolen life. The fact that, I mean, humans had the

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<v Speaker 1>Tesseract for decades and we don't really know what they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing until we catch up with them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back when they're fucking mucking about with portals and they

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<v Speaker 1>were destroying like an energy research center by accident.

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<v Speaker 3>Something I don't even think I got as annoyed about

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<v Speaker 3>as I should have when we were talking about the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think this could be added to this list.

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Stark just nuking space during the Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did just nuke space.

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<v Speaker 3>When he just put the space through the.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, he just put the nuke through the portal and

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<v Speaker 2>nuked space.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that could have had huge ramifications that

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<v Speaker 3>we are yet to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Hearing on how that could have implicated other universes.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't really know how the universes work in Marvel yet.

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<v Speaker 3>as much as that there are these kind of jump

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<v Speaker 3>points that you can get to between them. So I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like throwing a nuke through could definitely destroy somebody

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<v Speaker 3>else's jump point or world. Infinity War, I do think

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<v Speaker 3>it's that two-minute moment that you called out, Jason. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's Thanos turning... What would that mean to you?

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<v Speaker 3>How could that have played it into Doom's origin? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it it messes up the rest of the time stream?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think it is?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's that moment where Quill is like, this planet,

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<v Speaker 1>they're on Titan. He's like, this planet is eight degrees

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<v Speaker 1>off axis. Like, I just feel like it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>do something, right? If you take a portion of the

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<v Speaker 1>time stream, even though it's a small by area, a

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<v Speaker 1>relatively small piece, and you rewind it in time. Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it stay like that? Does it catch up? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that work? And we have not really thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems like a very small moment that Thanos

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of did, recreated an entire life. Did that,

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment, create a branching string?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, it makes sense if we're thinking about the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of notion of how time works in the MCU

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<v Speaker 3>and how life works.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Vision Quest will probably give hints to us.

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<v Speaker 3>On this, but I love the idea that it might

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<v Speaker 3>have kind of been a butterfly effect, essentially, that turning

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<v Speaker 3>those two minutes back messed things up everywhere else so badly.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very excited to speak more about the potentials.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we actually know what is causing the incursions? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we understand that they're happening. By the time we get

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<v Speaker 1>to Multiverse of Madness, we understand that it's happening. But

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<v Speaker 1>do we know why?

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<v Speaker 3>In Multiverse of Madness, the reason the incursion is happening,

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<v Speaker 3>the one we know about is just Peter's spell, right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>But the knowledge is that there has been incursions. And

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<v Speaker 3>then Clea says, well, there's more. So I think the

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<v Speaker 3>idea is that No Way Home kind of sparked off

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<v Speaker 3>this new wave, but they have been happening before and

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<v Speaker 3>it can happen. The first time we really saw it

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<v Speaker 3>happen was actually in What If? Season one, episode four,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best episodes. When Doctor Strange tries to

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<v Speaker 3>save Christine so much that he causes his world to implode.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish they'd kept that stuff canon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so useful. It's so well done.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that that is basically anytime someone changes something,

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<v Speaker 3>and it seems to be something that's just for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do think the Thanos one fits in. Because

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<v Speaker 3>Wanda does the sacrifice, but Thanos rewinds time for something selfish.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if that is one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>caused an incursion. I wonder if Doom's world was destroyed

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<v Speaker 3>by multiple incursions. You know, maybe it was multiple universes.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's why he wants to create one that's all

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<v Speaker 3>different universes together. There's so many options because we still

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<v Speaker 3>don't really understand how the multiverse works.

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<v Speaker 1>I am really eager to find out what his beef

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<v Speaker 1>is with Reed and the Fantastic Four. I mean, and if...

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<v Speaker 1>Are they in the right universe? Like when they became

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<v Speaker 1>bombarded by the cosmic rays, did they come back to

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<v Speaker 1>the same place that they left? Like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of questions about their relationship that Doomsday has to answer.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a great point, Jason, because one of the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest questions we've all had is like, where was Victor

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<v Speaker 3>during all of the Fantastic Four? It is weird to

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<v Speaker 3>have a world where the Fantastic Four are celebrities and

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<v Speaker 3>established and Victor isn't. So what if they all came

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<v Speaker 3>from a different world and after they were hit with

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic rays, they fell to that world and they were

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<v Speaker 3>seen as these heroic gods and that in itself is

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<v Speaker 3>a stolen life while Victor's world dies. That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is tinfoil hat. But what if the entire...

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<v Speaker 1>Because the Fantastic Four's world seemed really, really weird. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what if their whole... Life is actually a cover story

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<v Speaker 1>that they escaped incursion from a different galaxy. Like, they're

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<v Speaker 1>the only survivors on the life ship from whatever, some

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<v Speaker 1>other incursion universe in which they lost Victor. Oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to sacrifice Victor to get out of there

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<v Speaker 1>or something happened with Victor. Yeah. he's pissed that they

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<v Speaker 1>left him behind or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that idea because the Fantastic Four and Victor

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<v Speaker 3>have a very complicated relationship. Reed and Victor have a

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<v Speaker 3>very complicated relationship. This could be your new shipping fave,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on how they play it. I would, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>just think that's such an interesting take, Jason. Because there

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<v Speaker 3>is something off about that whole movie for whatever reason, right?

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a great way to retcon it if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to. But also the TV element of it all,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all like a story. It's all a special.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all kind of fake.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all an illusion potentially to cover up the fact that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you did escape and you got these, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they were on the ship when the incursion happened

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<v Speaker 3>and they were able to, but they left Victor behind or,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they saved Victor and, And his family was

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<v Speaker 3>left behind, so he didn't want to be saved anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's something really cool there.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, we know that the way that they were

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<v Speaker 3>playing the Fantastic Four was.

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<v Speaker 2>Very kind of dark.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is a potential for Reed as the maker,

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<v Speaker 3>this kind of evil version of Reed Richards. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that muddying the waters there would really work.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, on the next episodes of Extra Vision, we're diving

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<v Speaker 1>into the biggest news of the week. And then our

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<v Speaker 1>next episode, after that, we'll cover Lanterns. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>next week on Impending Doomsday, it is the sequel to

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<v Speaker 1>Avengers Infinity War, Avengers Endgame.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh-uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to talk about it. That's it for this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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