WEBVTT - TikTok Getting Banned?! 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.040 Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:08.320 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.000 Welcome home, y'all, Welcome home. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.720 This is episode ten of Native LAMPI where we break 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:24.599 down all things politics and culture. We're your hosts, Angela Rye, 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.600 Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillham. What are we celebrating this week, y'all? 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:36.440 T week we introduced an award, but we didn't win 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:36.880 the award. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:38.480 Andrew take the award home. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:39.839 Yeah, that was that. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.800 We were at south By Southwest. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.680 For the iHeart Podcast Awards and got to present an award. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.159 But more importantly, we got to spend time together and 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.200 I really I had such a great time with y'all. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.000 We ate all the things that the food. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.680 There is so good. Our last meal that we not 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.440 the last supper, but the last meal we had that 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.480 whatever it was. I'm not going to name check the spot, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.800 but I've been reflecting on that on that meal for 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:09.640 a minute, y'all. So thank you so delicious name checking 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.680 when they become sponsors. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.319 Wow, check somebody real quick, who is a sponsored the 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:17.120 gathering spot? Because they let us record here every week 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.399 the spot. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.840 Oh and I just shot y'all out too, I often 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.320 find myself. I've been in probably more of your audiences 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.080 Angela and live and in person that I have TIFFs. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:34.440 But both these women were on various panels asself By Southwest, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.600 and it is a good feeling to sit and watch 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.720 y'all's brilliance on display. So keep being bad. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:41.920 Thanks brother. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.120 I will tell you, guys, we want to shout out 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:48.680 y'all the NLP fam. You tune in every week, you've downloaded, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.280 you've subscribed, you've told your friend to tell a friend 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.200 to tell a friend to tell a friend, and we 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.320 want to ask you to tell them again to rate 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.360 and review our show. We are so grateful for you again, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:03.960 welcome home. So here's the rundown for today. We had 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.360 a time this week at south By Southwest. We just 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.560 talked about that a little bit, but one part we 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.040 didn't talk about is how fine my co hosts are. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:12.320 Y'all. 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.520 If you didn't see these carpet pictures and these pictures 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.040 from the stage, this is the cue for the video 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.600 team to put those pictures up because they fly. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.440 Shout out to all of our new podcasts. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.240 Man who we met in Austin, and thank you for 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.400 the overwhelming love it was seen, felt, and heard, and 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.880 on that note, feeling the love and I hope that 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.480 she feels it. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.160 announced earlier this week that she would be retiring after 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.640 five decades of public service. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.720 She served as a mayor. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:45.679 I know hadn't counter spoke service, but she was the 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.600 president of Delta's I'm not a Delta. I don't know 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.160 how that keeps happening. But nonetheless, Marcia Fudge, we love you, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.360 we see you for a congresswoman. We know that your 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.720 footprint and hamprint are all over this budget that we 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.359 will talk about later speaking of the budget. To shout 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.760 out Shalanda Young during this Black Women's History or Black 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:10.080 Women's history one now Women's Histryebruary, Who's another member of 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.720 Joe Biden's cabinet, a Black woman in the cabinet, And 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.800 this week we're going to talk about something that's near 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.040 and dear to Shilanda. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.799 It is the heartbeat of the work she does. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.840 She's the Office of Management and Budget Director, and so 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.080 of course she's had her hands directly on the budget 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.800 that President Biden brought to Congress, the f y twenty 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.440 twenty five budget, just a couple of days ago. On Tuesday, 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.680 we will also be talking about that budget and contrast 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.440 that with the priorities of then President Donald Trump and 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.000 see where they may may be a little bit of discrepancies, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.880 because y'all stay in our dms with a lot of discrepancies. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:53.360 And so because surprise, even though we're really not that surprised, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.800 as of Tuesday, both Joe Biden and Donald Trump became 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:02.480 their respective parties nominees for president, and aco you says, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.080 oh hell na to a bipartisan bill that cleared the 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:11.040 House banning TikTok in the United States, saying that's clearly 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.520 a violation of the First Amendment. And also Trump has 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.000 now gone from ninety one and diamonds to eighty eight 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.240 thanks to Judge McAfee who has thrown out charges for 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.360 Donald Trump and some of his co defendants in that 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.320 Fulton County racketeering case. And of course, we will be 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.000 answering your questions all throughout this show in LPFAM, and 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.240 we've got a Maryland Moseby update because woo, y'all do 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.440 not play about Maryland Moseby. And when I tell you 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.080 we're great folcals, we don't play about her either, Let's 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.080 get into it. Shout out to all of you have 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:44.920 asked how you can engage. We'll be sure to tell 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:46.599 you by the end of the end of the show. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.720 Stay with us. Okay, everyone, So here we are after 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.200 a three hundred and fifty two to sixty five vote 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.880 in the United States House Representatives. This don't happen on 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.640 nothing but post offices these days, but that's what the 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:04.560 vote was on this TikTok band. Surprisingly, so they are 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.880 trying to ban TikTok in the United States, and now 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.559 the bill will head over to the Senate. I want 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.760 to first here's some sound for Donald Trump, because you know, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.000 every now and then he got a conflict for several 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:17.120 as you. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.000 Know, I was at the point where I could have 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.880 gotten it done if I wanted to. I sort of said, 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.400 you guys, decide, you make that decision, because it's a 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.520 tough decision to make. Frankly, there are a lot of 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.960 people on TikTok that love it. There are a lot 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:34.280 of young kids on TikTok who will go crazy without it. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.800 There are a lot of users. There's a lot of 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.040 good and there's a lot of bad. With TikTok. But 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.599 the thing I don't like is that without TikTok, you 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:48.159 can make Facebook bigger. And I consider Facebook to be 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.279 an enemy of the people, along with a lot of 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:50.760 the media. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:57.719 Okay, Angelou, by the way, forgetting everything he said prior 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:02.440 to that last point, which was Facebook meta whatever they're called. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:06.839 Now he didn't he just meet with Elon Musk. Maybe 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.560 that a bug got drummed in his ear, right. I mean, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:15.760 this is all about his vengeance for Facebook mark that 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.600 whole crew. But I also think it's partly a smart 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.480 pedestrian move by him. I'll just say that, But I 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.600 think it conflicts with he relected. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.800 Himself in this actual we haven't showed that yet, right, 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:30.280 so when. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.320 People see that quick, they're gonna say kids himself the 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:32.880 all time. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.800 But in the previous his previous statement, y'all, when he 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.400 was president of these United States, unfortunately he did seek 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.200 he was the first one to throw out going after 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.680 China and banning TikTok usage in the United States of America. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.240 That was his position as president when he could do something. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.800 Now he's citizen mister eighty one convicted with an eighty 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:54.760 eight convicted. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:59.880 Eighty eight and its let the people we wish well, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.920 Can I just say this is the danger to me 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.200 with centering Donald Trump, because it's really not about him. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.760 I know we have to talk about him, but y'all 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.320 know how I feel about it, Like, this is not 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.360 a Donald Trump issue. This is a much bigger issue one. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.440 What the Congress, the lower chamber the House decided was 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.880 that TikTok would have to essentially emancipate itself from a 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:20.240 company called byte Dance. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:21.560 Now that's why that matters. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.560 Byte Dance is a Beijing based company, and we have 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:32.200 a very complicated and sometimes beneficial bilateral relationship with China. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.320 Byte Dance is worth more than twenty million dollars and 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.240 essentially they would have to sell. The Beijing based company 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.520 would be compelled to share, to sell twenty percent of 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:47.720 their stake. And the reason why is because, as rightfully so, 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:52.600 there's a concern about TikTok sharing US based user data 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:57.080 with China, and given our rocky relationship with our biggest 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.240 competitor on the global stage, that actually makes sense. There 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:06.040 has been information from the US intelligence community that they 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.040 are monitoring how we use TikTok from everything, not just 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.640 to what we look at but our finger motions, our 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.320 eye movement, And that might not matter if you think 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.720 about a twelve year old using TikTok, But when that 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.920 twelve year old is thirty five years old and they 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.120 work for the NSA or the FBI or in the 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.920 banking industry, and there is data that says I know 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.600 exactly who this person is because I've been tracking their 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.360 every move since they were twelve years old. 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.800 Well, now we're looking at a national security issue. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.520 So I think that's the bigger conversation here because it's 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.600 not just about TikTok. It's really about our relationship with China. 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.000 And we just saw I know, this is like foreign policy, 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.000 which we don't pay a lot of attention to in 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.680 this country because you know, as black folks, we're concerned 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.480 about our mortgage payments and you know, sending our kids 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.880 to school and raising responsible people. But foreign policy is 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.800 a really big issue. And when you look at our 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.439 relationship with China, and you just saw President Shei of 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.240 China on the global stage with President Vladimir Putin, who 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:10.120 the world has considered a pariah given his international ambition 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.320 and the attempted annexing of Ukraine. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:14.760 This is a big deal. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.800 If these two powers, these two nuclear powers, are joining 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.720 hands on the world stage, and there's a Beijing based 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.720 company where a significant portion of US users are interacting 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.559 with it daily, potentially unwittingly compromising their own. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.120 Data, that's a big deal. And that's why this matters. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.240 The danger in centering Donald Trump is you are chasing 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.120 the red herring instead of focusing on something that really 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.840 is a bipartisan issue that impacts us all no matter 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.319 what side of the how you sit on. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.319 Well, Donald Trump isn't the only one that might have 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.360 a little bit of a conflict here. Joe Biden says 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.079 that if Congress passes this TikTok band, he'll sign it. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.200 We're gonna roll that sound. And then there's one other 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:59.439 flag I have for y'all. You still cabandoned the clock. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:00.800 I'm not milky. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:02.959 They're very passed. It all fun. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.640 And so here's the thing, though, I don't know how 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.920 y'all feel about this, but people have pointed out this hypocrisy. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.000 I think we're all walking hypocrites about something. But of course, 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.600 Joe Biden is running for president. So can you run 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.360 for president these days without greening a TikTok account. He 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.640 certainly did, and they made their first post during the 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.480 Super Bowl this year, And so I'm curious to know 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.679 if you all think that any if there should be 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.800 any like, hey, well what about this over here? Obviously 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.599 he can do it from his phone, so there's no 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.959 real national security threat there, But I'm wondering if you 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.880 all think that there's like, hey, if you going to 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.560 sign the band, don't use the thing. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:40.640 No. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.560 Look, I would applause the Biden administration for meeting voters 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.120 where they are. The reality is a significant portion of 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.400 young people are on TikTok, and so jim z ers 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.319 who are just coming into this process, you want to say, hey, 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.640 I'm engaging you. And quite frankly, if you're eighteen years 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.520 old voting for the first time, I'm not sure how 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.199 closely you're monitoring foreign policy see issues, not saying that 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.480 you aren't, but that's probably not the leading issues that's 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.360 driving your vote. So I don't necessarily think that's hypocrisy. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.040 Look, I have a. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.520 Challenge with Meta and how they conduct a lot of 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.599 their practices. Yet I'm definitely on Instagram, Native Land is 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.319 on Instagram. I think it's really hard to navigate the 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:24.079 society without participating in some sort of social media. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.840 It's a necessarily problem, necessary evil. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.040 Because social media has democratized who has a voice in 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.040 this society, and as black folks, we have been so 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.920 summarily left out of that process. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:36.120 Social media is. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.600 Integral to how we organize, how we activate, and how 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:40.880 we communicate with each other. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.559 So I don't know that I would blame. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.560 By them, but more than one thing can be true 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:50.319 at one time. The democratization that's being experienced by so 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.040 many of us through these platforms is good. But then 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.640 you get to a point where these platforms become so powerful, 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.360 have so much because just like we're talking about China 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.120 and the information that they're colecting about our movements, what 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.959 we put into the public space, even what we haven't 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.280 put into the public space, that's happening in the backframe, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.199 these companies have access to all of it. So what 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.719 happens when a Facebook becomes so or meta, becomes so 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.640 incredibly powerful. It starts to sort of develop this posture 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.880 in our society similar to Wall Street, that they're just 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.040 too big to fail. So then you can't pass legislation, 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.440 you can't prosecute you can't hold them accountable because going 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.320 after that bohemoth then shakes the foundation of other parts 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.199 of our society. So my problem with all of them 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.520 is that I just don't think our regulators, especially as 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.959 I think about, you know, artificial intelligence now and I'm 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.600 getting email saying, hey, try AI with that email composition 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.800 and try AI. You know, these ads are popping up 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.599 when I know good and well that they're all so 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.000 underregulated right now. From the President on down through Congress, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.920 they have basically said that these the wise kids out 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.360 out of you know, California, have come to them and said, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.280 if you regulate us now, we will never get to 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:08.160 the kinds of levels of innovation that could potentially be 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.000 experienced for the health of our country and for the 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.319 world if you regulate us too early. And by and 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.760 large that argument has been accepted on the Hill, and 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.520 so they have been slow walking any regulation regarding these folks. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.840 And I'm just not sure how much of our lives 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.599 are being put at risk for the corporate entities and 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.000 the corporate bohemans to go out there and figure out 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.000 the best way to advertise the next thing they want 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:32.679 to sell to us. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.080 Well, seris how you feel about it because you asked 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:36.480 the question. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.079 But I'm wondering if you ask the question because you 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.240 feel like maybe it is hypocrisy, or but how do 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:41.680 you feel about the TikTok ban in general? 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.520 Yeah, what I think is that is complex. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.040 I think it's interesting to see both of you agreed 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.360 with Donald Trump on a point around meta they do. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.480 Like when Instagram and Facebook, I was like, oh God, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.360 like there it was no antitrust law, no soup for them. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.839 They just were able to kind of merge. I think 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.360 one of the things that's fascinating to me is Congress 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:08.520 banned the ability for any congressional office, any federal office 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.640 from using TikTok on a federal device in December of 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.000 twenty twenty two, so they're just having the rest of 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.520 the country catch up. I think the other thing that's 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:21.280 worth noting is that there are content creators. So I'm 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.320 about to be a hypocrite too, Like I was acknowledging 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.640 the hypocrisy because I am too on this, But there 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.680 are content creators who are raking in hundreds of thousands 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.200 of dollars on TikTok that has become their bread and butter, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.400 And I'm like, oh, my god. They if we just 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.760 eliminate that platform for them, what happens? And I think 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.960 acou that's I don't think that their point is one 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.320 that round economics, but their point is one around like, 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.600 how are you choosing to regulate this platform for free 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.840 speech purposes? I understand national security issues, I'm sure they 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.440 do and have considered all of that, and yet and 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.480 still they're like, this is going a bridge too far. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.560 So it looks like there's gonna be some type of 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.960 aco U suit based on this if it passes the 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.920 Senate and gets to Joe Biden's desk, it is going 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:03.520 to be challenging. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.640 And Angela, if I could just add, I know we've 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.680 talked on this a minute, but it's really important. There 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:14.880 are countless multi national companies that are operating in the 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.960 United States but are headquartered elsewhere in our paying taxes 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.520 and s andcounting companies that were started in the United 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.520 States and for taxation purposes and greed, they have lifted 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.840 their corporate headquarters out of here and have settled in 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:32.160 some other tax friendly, non existing country around. So where 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.320 does if we start at this place? And I probably 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.800 am more in the line of where the Aclu is here. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:40.800 Even though I don't have a TikTok, I don't use it, 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.520 but my wife shows me videos and stuff, and so 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.320 I laugh at stuff. So I guess I'm complicit. But 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.400 if we start down this road, where does it go next? 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.960 Which enemy of the state does Congress then decide is 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.400 a national security risk? And therefore we're going to shut 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.960 such and such down so that they can't collect data. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:05.600 That same information is being collected right here by domesticated companies, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.120 and they're selling that shit elsewhere anyway. They're selling it 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.880 outside the United States, it's selling it globally. So in 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.640 some ways this feels like a red herring that TikTok's 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.960 been picked out, and I understand. And by the way 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.400 you name the company that owns it, the truth is 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.280 that it's likely owned by the government. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:23.720 That it's likely. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:24.800 That's been the question. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.680 That is a key question they have asked, does the 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.240 government and in China it is not America. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.000 But they are not. Then they're not the only one. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.080 You can go you can go to to to where 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.480 anywhere in the Middle East, in fact, the in the 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.440 Middle East. You can't own a company if you are 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:46.880 not if you are not a what's the uh Jordanian 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:53.600 or a KUWAITI I've been to cutter cutter frosts. You 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.000 can't own a company and cutter more than fifty percent 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.160 of it if you are not a Qutarian. So there, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.480 we don't have that regulation here in the United States. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.760 So I'm just saying this is Atari. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:06.040 I don't think it's Kutran. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.800 No. I was thinking, no, no, no, no. I was thinking, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.760 how do you take your Katar if. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.840 You're from Qatartarian or. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.720 Because of the sentence structure. But you're right, it could 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.440 be just an. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.200 We don't okay. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.040 A CLU is the American Civil Liberties Union. They are 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.679 not a government entity, and they are the people who 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.320 are bringing forth the suit. They bring forth a lot 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.000 of suits on issues like this, so we'll have to 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:30.520 keep our eyes. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:30.960 Member. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.960 Well there. They have some. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.399 Controversial takes too, so they're an interesting organization. I just 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:37.600 wanted to be clear for everywers about that. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.040 Thank you know. That's good. Okay, we got to pay 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:40.480 the bills. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.960 We'll be back right after this with an update on 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:54.760 presidential politics. Well this is actually a former presidential politics update, 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.640 but in Fulton County, Judge McAfee is thrown out six 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.280 of the charges again Donald Trump and some of his 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.400 co defendants, including two counts of solicitation in one count 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.119 of false statements. In writings, this is in regard to 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.920 a phone call where he says that the prosecution needs 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.280 to get a lot more specific in their allegations and 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.359 their charges that they are pursuing against Donald Trump and 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.760 the eighteen code defendants. What do y'all got about that? 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.080 I'm questions, I'm confused or what that means? 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:25.840 What? 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.000 So six charges were thrown out, that's what you're saying. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.639 What were those charges? And my biggest question, because I 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.480 think this is the most important question, the recording of 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.080 him saying find me eleven thousand votes? Do any of 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.840 those charges render that recording mood? 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.840 I don't think so. I don't think so. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.000 Then then to me, that's the most important thing. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.920 Honestly, Yeah, no, you hit at it. So the six 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:54.199 charges as understand and that have been dropped by the judge. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:19:00.960 He very specifically states Georgia law which requires years that 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.320 any charges that are bought in an indictment must be 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.160 very specific and provide a certain level of background information 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.480 facts evidence in the In the in the allegation, and 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.040 in this case, he determined that six of at least 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.960 six of them did not meet that standard. He also 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.960 goes on to say, however, that the federal system, the 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.560 federal court system, has a way for you to get 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:29.880 that information without dropping charges. But unfortunately in this state. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.040 He knows this because he's a formal federal judge and 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.360 federal prosecutor. But in this state of Georgia, and remember 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.600 this is a Georgia, State of Georgia case, not a 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:44.240 federal United States case. So the federal I mean, the 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.000 Georgia constitution and Georgia law takes precedents here. And so 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.840 he's saying, based off of what precedence is in Georgia 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.639 regarding this issue, I've got to let these six charges go. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.399 And by the way, prosecution, you can refile these charges 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.960 any now if you bring this additional evidence, that this 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.680 additional information that then meets the standard of Georgia law. 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:13.560 Ken Republican governor, also widely known voter suppressionists, can he 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.520 pardon Donald Trump for any or all of these state charges? 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:18.760 Is that even a possibility? 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:19.080 Yes? 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:20.399 Absolutely? 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:21.760 Do you all think that he would? 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:23.160 Absolutely? 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:25.359 Because even though Trump has. 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.359 Been, of course antagonistic to him because he's a child 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:29.960 and throws to timber tantrums. 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.280 Yet and still some people still, you know, drink drink 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:33.880 his kool aid. 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:39.720 So I got to measure this obviously obvious voter suppressionist 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.560 and to his own end, he was a candidate on 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.520 the on the ballot, and demand was trying to square 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.520 it up so he had the best chance of winning possible. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.399 You know, long before that. He's been doing it a 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:49.800 long time. 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.920 No, no, no, for sure, but he's at his own 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.760 He's had as Secretary of State and as a candidate 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.000 for governor. He put all this stuff in place. My 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:02.520 point is, though he also ran for reelection without endorsing 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.359 Donald Trump, being critical of him, ascended into office because 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.160 there was a constituency of Republicans in Georgia that would 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.600 still elevate him to that post. What I am thankful for, however, 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.560 is that because these are state charges, if Donald Trump, 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:21.240 God help us all, were elected, you know, president of 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.320 the United States, he couldn't direct his Department of Justice 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:28.919 to then suddenly, you know, just drop charges because these 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.720 charges are being bought at a state level according to 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:36.760 its state laws and state Constitution, and the prisons that 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.920 you would go to are not state prison are not 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.560 federal prisons, they are state prisons, and those and those 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:46.919 decisions can't be vacated by president simply because he happens 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:48.840 to be at issue in those charges. 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:53.040 But the one caveat I'd offer is he might not 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.399 be able to do that sitting in the oval, but 0:21:55.600 --> 0:22:01.439 he could still escape a conviction and even being tried 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.280 if when the Supreme Court hears the presidential immunity case 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.240 in April and they make a decision in June or 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:12.280 July that says he's immune from all these things relating 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.240 to January sixth related. If the presidential immunity stands and 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.600 it's becomes exhaustive and expansive. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.160 He may not ever have to face a state charge. 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.480 So that's you're right, Angela. 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.480 Andel, You've been on that that immunity case, that it 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:32.200 scares me. 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.080 It frightens me that especially. 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.719 I'm gonna tell you guys, the thing that really scared 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.440 me was, and I can understand how they got there, 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.240 but in the Colorado. 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.640 Case, nine to zero. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:47.120 Decided to leave him. 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.560 Nine to zero unanimous Supreme Court decision to ensure that 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.680 Donald Trump was able to stay on the ballot in 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.320 the Republican primary in Colorado, doing it. 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.080 To ensure that that he would make it in time 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:02.520 on that particular ballot. 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:04.879 The fact that they would say that he did not 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:09.879 violate this particular clause in the Constitution around insurrection, that 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.000 it would be a violation of the equal protection clause 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:13.800 to remove him. 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.399 Like these are the things where I'm like, Okay, if 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:17.240 they're going to be. 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.880 Strict, you know, strict upholders of the Constitution, how will 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:25.280 they expand constitutional protections? And I think that we could 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:26.840 be in a place, you know, I don't know if 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.520 we would be nine zero because folks are there are 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:33.320 some folks at least hopefully with Sonya Soto mayor Elena 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.200 Kagan and with Katanji Brown Jackson, where they would realize 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.480 the danger outweighs. What you would hope that this country, 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.200 like we understand what the documents are supposed to mean, 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.600 that they are supposed to be living and breathing. That 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.680 does not mean that you should let this dude take 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.200 us out and die like behind trying to protect the 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.560 document that like some of these things, you just got 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:56.440 to look beyond the plane four corners of the document, 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.280 because if you looked at it just as it was, 0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.480 that didn't even apply to us. So we were not 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.399 considered human beings in that document. So what am I 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.600 really talking about? Evolved that thing based on who's in 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.120 front of you and what's going on, and it did. 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:11.960 All I got to say. 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:17.440 She didn't concern me as much, and partly because I 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.680 think I could see this working a completely different way 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.640 with a different candidate, you know, under consideration. 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:26.920 So I did get that. 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:31.080 I take real, you know, issue with an individual state, 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.600 Let's say, I don't know Alabama, Mississippi deciding whether or 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.720 not Barack Obama could be on a ballot, right, And 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:42.520 so when you have a federal election where the results 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.160 should be determined by the whole of us, the collective 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.479 of US got it gets back to the fundamental argument 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:53.000 of the Articles of Confederation versus a United States Constitution. 0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:57.600 The Articles didn't last because an individual state could then 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.280 trump the power of the federal settled on a federalist 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.320 system because we didn't want individual states who were a 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.760 part of the Union to be able to trump and 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.920 bigfoot over the rest of US. Now, by the way, 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.880 so many, by the way, it's happening in a presidential 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.040 election where you have the little states being able to 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.399 bigfoot over the majority of Americans. I'm just saying, I 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:22.760 don't want to court standing ratestive yest. It's completely, completely, 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.560 completely I think what makes this different, this, this particular 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.480 case around immunity different is if the court, and they 0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:32.680 possibly can because they did it in Bush v. Gore. 0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.200 They basically said, we're making this decision, this is why 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.040 we're making this decision. And by the way, and making 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.360 this decision, this should never be used as precedents, which 0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:46.600 means never ever use our decision and this case as 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:50.200 a foundation for making the same conclusion in another like case. 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.160 They said it. The Supreme Court said, as in every 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.520 other case, Angela, you can agree or you can at 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.320 least confirm this. When the Supreme Court makes a decision, 0:25:58.359 --> 0:25:59.879 it becomes the law of the land, and it set 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:05.040 precedents for like cases until the Supreme Court reverses itself 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.840 in a future decision. And bushby Gored they said this 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.560 should never be president's and never reversible. I only make 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.919 that point to say this would be such a departure 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.359 from the federal assistants say the president could basically assassinate 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:23.840 his political opponent as president, kill his opponent as president 0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.240 and cannot be prosecuted. You have to draw it out 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.840 to his logical conclusion. If you say he can if 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.359 presidential immunity applies to anyone who is president and they 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.440 cannot be prosecuted for the actions that they take while 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:37.359 being president, take its to its furthest conclusion. Can he 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:42.359 assassinate his opponent as president and never ever have to 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.200 pay a consequence for that? The court goes that direction. 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:47.199 They are saying that. 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:52.080 Yeah, but that is it sounds hyperbolic to people. But 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.040 what you just said, Andrew, that is a legitimate question 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.399 to ask you already even said he has said he 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.080 could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue. Elected Angela, my question 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.639 for you because you name check three Supreme Court justices 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:07.200 with Kagan, Sodomayor, and Jackson. And the reason why Angela 0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.399 name checked those judges is because they are Democratic appointed 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.280 members of Scotis. Scotus is the Supreme Court of the 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:14.680 United States. So when you hear that term, that's what 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:18.000 that means. Those are the three left leaning Democratic appointed 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:24.280 Justice John Roberts also a justice who was Republican appointed 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:29.399 has surprised us sometimes, so I'm asking you precisely. So 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.000 I'm asking this the question for you, but also to 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:36.120 make a point to our viewers. The right prioritizes justices. 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.359 In a way the left does not. 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.920 The reason being this is not a criticism of the left. 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.520 We have so much on our plate. We're under attack 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.399 on every possible front, so it's hard to do this. 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.080 My question to you, Angela, as an attorney, given the 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.760 makeup of this court and we've had some surprises, there 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.639 is it possible. Well, I shouldn't even ask what is 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.720 your prediction on the immunity case, because I know we 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:57.680 should talk about this later. I know we'll have a 0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.440 bigger episode on it. But if on the top of 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:03.240 your head today, if you could predict how this court 0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:04.760 might rule in this community. 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:05.359 Case, what do you predict? 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:06.440 Six? Three? 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.080 So you think that it will go right down party lines? 0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.040 The three I do? 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:18.200 Well, you know what, I'll say, maybe maybe, maybe five 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.400 four to your point around John Roberts. And the only 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.760 reason why is because he's not Trump appointed. I think 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.680 all of the Trump appointees are out there, they're like 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.119 diehard Trump supporters. They're gonna always side with him, and 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.320 he got three appointments. Who am I missing Alito? And 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.000 I think Alito, No, I'm not, I'm missing what's his name? 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.120 There's Thomas Tondo. 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.360 I'm missing. I'm missing I'm missing Tom. I'm missing Thomas. 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.320 He's always gonna be with Trump because his wife basically, 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:49.720 she don't have to. 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:51.160 I don't know. She don't have to. 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.360 He don't have to recuse himself because he doesn't want 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.600 to because the same rules don't apply, which is a 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.560 whole We should that should be a mine? Why should 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.760 why should there be lifetime appointments? 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:01.960 Like should there be? 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.560 Okay, so will we talk about that today or no? 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:06.600 You just saying in the future. 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.640 I think we should ask the viewers what they think. 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.959 But I do like the idea. Maybe not right now 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:13.640 because we still got a whole budget to get into. 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.640 But before we get into the budget, we had a 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:17.840 question about this too, because we know this man, say 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.040 he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue. 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:21.680 We don't know how the judges are going to rule. 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.880 Part of this is if you crazy, should you get 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:26.960 your head check? What's the question to say? Let's hear it. 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.240 My name is Bruno Compost from Los Angeles, California. My 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.600 question is, why is it so much harder to get 0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.960 a job as a ups driver than it is to 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.200 become president of the United States. I know that if 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.640 I went to apply somewhere for a job, if I 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.800 had ninety one indictments and I had a long list 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.720 of trials coming up, I know for a fact I 0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.120 wouldn't be hired. So how does a man get to 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:56.960 run this country with so many indictments, so many trials 0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:01.920 coming up, evidence that he's a racist in citing a riot. 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.640 I just don't understand. Please help me. I love you, guys. 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:11.760 I love you friend, Bruno, Bruno, you guys. Please let 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.080 me get at this. Let me tell you sorry, go 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:14.480 for it. 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.120 People on the lease right me tell. 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:21.280 You something I have been saying this. I used to 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.840 get reprimanded on air for this. I think if attorneys 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.240 have to do uh, we have to. We have to 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.200 we have to abide by the rules of professional conduct. 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:35.640 We have to pass a professional responsibility exam, the npr E. 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.840 We have to ensure that we aren't nuts to be 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.520 able to practice law. There are folks, you have to 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.840 do some of some mental evaluations to do certain jobs 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.520 in this country. I think some of it should apply 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:50.720 even more to law enforcement. You have to do some 0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.320 of this to get a clearance, a security clearance. I 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.960 had to do so much to get a security clearance. 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.040 When I worked on the Homeland Security Committee. Are you 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.040 kidding me? There are touching not just top secret. You 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:02.760 guys are gonna laugh. 0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.520 But I didn't even want to get the SCI clearance 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.480 that's the one that goes through the CIA for approval, 0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.440 because you know, I was raised by an activists. 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:09.440 I was like, I'm good on this. 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:10.520 I'm scared EI. 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:11.600 I don't know. 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.240 But it's the clearance you have to get to go 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.520 through the security clearance through the CIA, CIA proof. 0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.320 It's the highest security clearance you can get as a 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:19.280 staffer on the Hill. 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.640 Okay, I wouldn't do that one. I only got my 0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:26.960 TS top secret clearance. Now Donald Trump is touching documents 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:33.440 that are impacting lives, like international classified information. He don't 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.040 have to get his hand check. Like, please tell me 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.680 how you're justifying this. We are paying you with our 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.239 taxpayer dollars. We are we have to actually ensure your 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.720 health care. You're covered by everything that we do in 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.160 this land. But you don't have to get your head check. 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.040 It shouldn't just be a physical it should be a 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:55.480 mental health evaluation every single year. I actually think that 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.920 it should apply to members of Congress too. Maybe we 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.840 would have missed out on George Santos. It's as he 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.200 ready to run again by the way he walked around 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.840 the house for they're ready to change the rules. It 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:06.720 was like, you know what what we said, we wanted 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.160 to allow members to be able to roam these floors 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.120 after they get removed. They were like, what is that, 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.040 How does that really apply to somebody was expelled? Yo, Well, like, 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.440 this is something that we have to address. Is crazy, 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:19.920 It is crazy. 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:20.680 Yeah. 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.880 Well, first of all, thank you Angela for breaking down 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.760 because so many people don't understand how this works, especially 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.520 on Capitol Hill. That's why I such a privilege to 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.880 have you break these things down since you worked there 0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.640 for so long. I just want to remind people. In 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.600 twenty seventeen, I believe it was one day after dismissing 0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.880 James Comy, who was the head of the FBI at 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.720 that point, Donald Trump was in the Oval office with 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.640 two members of an adversarial government, two members of the 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.240 Russian government. He was there with the Russian Foreign Minister 0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:54.840 Lavrov Sergey Lavrov and UH ambassador Sergey Kisliak. He had 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.760 them in the Oval office. The conclusion that came out 0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:01.800 of that was that he actually revealed highly classified information 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:06.040 to two members of a foreign government with whom we 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.920 have a very adversarial relationship. I just talked about President 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.320 Putin literally holding hands with President She on the world stage, 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.200 and this man is up for re election with the 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.160 support of at least seventy five million people. 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:20.360 This is where you know. 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:24.000 It is not about patriotism. It is not about political divides. 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.200 There are people who could literally see this country turn 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.719 to ashes before they saw someone who looked like us 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:31.360 running it. 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.840 That is what this is about. This is not patriotism. 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.800 These are members of a cult who is willing to 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.800 turn this country over to a man who is a 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:41.280 proven trader. 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.240 That should tell you where we are in this country. 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.360 I'll just say, having gone through a process of having 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.960 to fight back and beat back lies through an indictment 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.240 as a regular average citizen who finds themselves on the 0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.040 other side of that system off of an accusation, having 0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:01.800 banks closed their doors on you, having credit cards canceled 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.600 on you, having your your passport stripped from you, having 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.879 DS a global entry, all the other stuff, all that's 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.200 stripped away from you off of an accusation. So before 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.680 you ever get to a guilty or innocence, someone's claim 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.520 against you. And it just goes to show how the 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.640 justice system is, which is supposed to be blind, and 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.960 it's supposed to apply to all of us the same way. 0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:29.719 That that's a hoax, that if you're powerful enough, if 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.000 you are connected enough, if you're Donald Trump, and and 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.080 and and and that crew, the law doesn't work the 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.239 same way for you. And in his case, with all 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.600 of the delay delays that we're seeing in these four 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.800 cases that are before him, this man may even be 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.719 able to escape justice in some ways. He has it 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.879 so many other points in his life, and we're only 0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.120 now seeing the reckoning, And unfortunately the reckoning only he 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.840 seems to be happening in the civil cases, but in 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.440 the criminal cases where I think this man is most liable, 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.279 most responsible, and not because I'm just guessing at it, 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.160 but because we all laid witness to many of the 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.279 crimes that he committed out loud, we saw them with 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:12.200 our own eyes. Yet there's a strong possibility that none 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:13.840 of these cases is going to get tried prior to 0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:17.400 the election, and if you were to stand the opportunity 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:21.640 to be re elected, he could summarily dismiss and suspend 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.960 with two of the cases that have the greatest consequences 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.680 attached to them. And so, you know, I take the question, Bruno, 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.440 and I understand it. I'm simply saying that this is 0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:37.040 a reconfirmation that all men are equal, doesn't mean all 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:38.080 men are equal. 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:40.280 Thank you, Bruno for that question. 0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:44.400 While we love that question. We absolutely love that question. 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.040 All right, everybody, We're going to get to this break 0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.360 after that hot headed moment about getting some mental some 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.120 folks with some sense in office. 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.120 We'll be right back after this break. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.400 My name is Monte White, originally from Inkster, Michigan. What 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.160 up though? Now from Maryland and not the following question. 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.359 In the last twelve hours, we've seen Trump unofficially win 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:14.120 the Republican nomination for president. We've seen Mitch McConnell's spinelessly 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.280 throwa is support behind Trump despite the insults and barbs 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:19.760 they thrown at each other. And we've seen Nicki Hayley 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.000 suspend her campaign without supporting anybody but like this shall 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.160 fall in line like the rest of the Republicans already 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.200 have so solely, but surely, it seems like the Republican 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.120 Party is slowly beginning to coalesce around Trump. Some influential 0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:37.320 Democrats have been leading and supporting symbolic demonstrations like voting 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.320 uncommitted at the Democratic primaries to influence President Biden to 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.759 act in the Palestine Israel crisis. So my question for 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.239 you is, do you believe that Democrats as a whole 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.279 will now begin to coalesce around the president, knowing that 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.200 Trump is unofficially officially the Republican nominee or will these 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.080 demonstrations continue, and if they do, is there a point 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.000 where will be too late for Democrats to throw their 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:04.440 support behind President Biden to any real meaningful effect. 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.280 Nice, heay, welcome home, Antie. We appreciate your question. 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.640 I love this, y'all because we honestly get a number 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:16.279 of questions every week about it's lesser two evils, or 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.600 you know, how are Biden and Trump different? And it 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.360 feels almost like we're it's like Groundhog's Day, like we 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.360 haven't are having to keep answering. I am not disparaging 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.640 the question or I'm just saying that we are answering 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.879 this a lot, and so because we're answering a lot, 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.120 it must mean that people still need to understand the difference. 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:37.400 That is something that we all understand. We sometimes can 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.000 get wonkish. Tiffanyil regularly be like, what's that acronym mean? 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.600 I just said something about a SCI clearance and she's like, 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.239 what is that? I'm like, I don't know. It's a 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.120 sensitive compartmentalized information. 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:46.920 I had to look it up by it. 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.719 But the point is like, we are regularly in this, 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:51.600 but because this is the work that we do and 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.480 have done for many, many years, we do get into 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.120 spaces where we're like, oh, this is obvious or that's obvious, 0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.839 that it isn't necessarily so. So today what we're doing, 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.960 hopefully Monty and answering your question as well as some 0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:08.200 of the others, is showing what some of those distinctions are. 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.560 Now that we have well, I think we've been knowing 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.120 who are nominees would be in the respective parties for 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.759 the general. We know very clearly now as per the 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.120 numbers that they are going to advance to the General 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.480 so long as their party conventions say the same. We 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.480 want to make sure that we're drawing a contrast and 0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:29.480 that it's really clear with Biden's release of Silanda's budget 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:33.520 this past Tuesday, as well as being able to reflect 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.719 on someone who was a president lost reelection is now 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.359 so it's now eligible to run for another another four 0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.800 year term. What are the biggest distinctions. One of the 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:46.760 things that I wanted to call attention to is Congressman 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.240 Leeber used to say, who is my boss on Capitol 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.480 Hill and the chair of the CBC when I worked there. 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:57.480 The Congressional Black Caucus still present in what districts Missouri 0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.640 for but sometimes you know, are redistricting those Yeah, those 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.640 numbers can change Missouri. Yes, Kansas City and a Pathety 0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:08.520 mayor and a former Kansas City mayor, yeah, and a 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.080 former HOOT official. Anyway, we have run through these people's 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:15.520 whole resumes. But he says the measure of a person 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.400 or a nation's heart can be divulged by examining the 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.360 details of a budget they craft. And because he's a pastor, 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.799 tip you know, he said based on Matthew six twenty one, 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.600 So right, He's like, I got a biblical. 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.520 Basis for this, but I think it's so true. 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:35.120 Even Michael Lomax, who ran the UNCF, used to say 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.799 that you it's not about the numbers in the budget, really, 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:43.520 you can really determine where priorities lie. And speaking of lies, 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.719 it's interesting that Donald Trump would utilize the budget and 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.800 say that he's doing these grandiose things for black people, 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:53.760 because what in the hell do we have to lose 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:59.600 in these budget documents and be lying, he would just 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.560 be te a whole story like I've done more for 0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.799 HBCUs than any president in history. It has been fact 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:06.560 checked by PolitiFact over and over again. 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:07.719 That is not a thing. 0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.279 But I think the truth of it is there are 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.960 some places where some of these budgets kind of intersect. 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.279 The whole purpose of this is every year the sitting 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.600 president goes before Congress, they give the State of the 0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.799 Union address. In that State of the Union, they list 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.960 their key priorities kind of like a road map like 0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:26.680 we do at the beginning of the show, of what 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.880 they're going to do this year, what they're asking Congress 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.800 to join them in meeting the needs of the American people. 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:34.840 Here's what I want to do. 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:39.759 Shortly thereafter, there's a budget proposal that is hundreds of 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.600 pages that is broken up by department, you know, Department 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:48.839 of Interior, Agriculture Justice HUD, which is Housing in Urban 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.520 development over like, through and through, as well as some 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.879 of the agencies like the Minority Business Development Agency, which 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.880 they just decided should be the white Minority Business Development Agency. 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.520 But that's the court case for another day. So you 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.640 see all of these priorities that are presented with numbers 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:08.840 attached to them, from PEIL grants to SNAP to affordable 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:13.200 housing to a farmer debt relief, and you see what 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.320 they're what presidents, what they would use as pay force? 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.160 How are they going to pay for these initiatives for 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:23.279 these projects? The pay force normally come from taxes, and 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:27.160 we see in this administration how they plan to use 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.040 taxing the rich to pay for some of the programs 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.680 because a number of federal programs had to be cut 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.440 under the Trump administration because of the number of tax 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:39.920 cuts and credits that were given to the rich. So 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.520 that said, I want to allow and move over it 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.480 because I've been talking for five minutes. Sorry, y'all, I 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.160 want to share this stage with my co hosts because 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.719 I just kissed the mic because I think it's so 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.880 important for you guys to talk about some of the priorities. 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:57.920 You've seen some of the things where you're like, this 0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.800 is good, but I think we need to be, you know, 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.239 prioritizing this in a different way. One of the things 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.840 that frustrates me is the attention to the border and 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.120 how much money they want to spend on the border. 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.040 On a bipartisan level, this is an issue that goes 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:16.600 far exceeds Donald Trump and Joe Biden's administrations. But I 0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.439 want you guys to talk about some of the things 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:22.480 that you've seen in the budget documents and what you 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:24.239 hope to see. 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:24.600 Well. 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:25.960 Can I just hop in and I hate to be 0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:27.880 a wet blanket here, but I just want our viewers 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.080 to understand how this process works, and one this budget, 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.319 like most presidential budgets, has very little chance of becoming law. 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.160 What this does instead, to Angela's point, is post State 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.440 of the Union address. It's saying here's where my priorities lie. 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.319 So I appreciate you landing that out for us. 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:46.560 Angela. I have more questions than I do answers here. 0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.120 Before I kick it to you, Andrew, because I don't 0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:51.920 have a lot to say about the budget itself. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:52.759 I will tell you. 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.080 When we were Angela and Andrew and I were talking 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.920 about this before we started recording. One thing that I 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:00.719 care because Angela said, I want you awt to you know, 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.760 look at this budget and see you know what matters 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.880 to you. And I read probably eight papers every day 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.080 before the sun comes up. I don't watch a lot 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.160 of cable news. I feel better for having I feel 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.960 smarter for having read things. And what I have not 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.640 read even when I google it is what is in 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:24.080 this in President Biden's budget. When it comes to SNAP benefits, 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:29.800 Snap is food assistance. It's a food assistance program. I 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.360 it's not because it's not in there. It is because 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.719 people have not written about it. What that says to 0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.960 me is the Beltway press is incestuous, and it is 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:42.520 often talking to each other, for each other and about 0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:46.759 each other. That creates a disconnect with voters who are 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.920 out there, who are not waking up looking at CNBC 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.080 every day or reading the op ed pages of the 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.520 Journal or Financial Times. They are figuring out how to struggle. 0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.320 And this is why, to Angelo's point, they do not 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:02.080 feel connected with this budget. They don't always understand what 0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.359 the president has instituted in a budget that Congress has 0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.799 to vote on and pass, which rarely happens, and how 0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.399 it impacts their everyday life, the fact that no one 0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.640 has thought about, well, there are millions of people who 0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:18.000 receive snap benefits? How does this budget impact them so much? 0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:21.160 That it is not written about anywhere since the State 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.520 of the Union. I found that quite telling. That's what 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.239 I care about. I have members in my family who 0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.960 get SNAP benefits. When I was younger, I you know, 0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.680 we got snap benefits called welfare at the time. If 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:35.560 you old enough like we are, you remember government cheese. 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:35.839 Right. 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:37.920 Andrew's raising his hand and he got it too, so 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.080 we all understand that. So that is the key thing 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.880 that I care about. And unfortunately I did not find that, 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.320 and I'm not as smart as Angela and Andrew to 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:47.960 comb through hundreds of pages of it. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.440 Andrew, I want to hear your priorities. 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.560 But my question to you is, and angel because you 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:54.200 worked on Capitol Hill, and I told Angela I was 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.719 going to ask this question earlier because these guys have 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.840 more government experience than I do. The President's budget is 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.279 one part of it. Then Congress has to vote on it, 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.840 and then the money is issued to states. If you 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.200 have a Republican governor, and I'm using Mississippi as an example, 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:13.080 Governor Tate Reeves, who gets this big pot of money, Yeah, 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.200 he gets to decide where it goes. So in a 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.920 state like Mississippi where you have a city like Jackson, Mississippi, 0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.920 where they literally had no clean drinking water and it's 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.640 still a very flimsy drinking water system in place, Now 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.879 that's infrastructure money that Tate Reeves gets to say, I'm 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:32.760 gonna put this money elsewhere and not in the blackest 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.080 part of my state. Andrew, do I have that correct? 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.719 And that's how it goes. And because you were a 0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:42.000 mayor running for governor, how does that money trickle to 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.680 the governor? And then how does the governor trickle that 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:45.200 money to you? 0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:50.919 Yeah? Your point as well, taking Tiffany, and the truth 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.560 is is a lot of us get it confused, and 0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:56.680 for good reason because for us, look, we put money 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.040 in through taxes and we hear about all the money 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.840 being generated, but we get real lost in the process 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.040 when that stuff so it's to come back down to us. 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.600 And so it's important to know how, and it's really 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:08.680 as a mayor. It was one of my biggest criticisms 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.680 about the budgeting process. I brought it up numerous times 0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.600 and visits to the White House and talking to at 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:18.160 that time Obama administration officials and so on. It's a big, 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.279 big issue for a lot of us at the local 0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.160 level that we can have problems. That's in Jackson, Mississippi 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.880 and our very own communities. But unfortunately, the way Washington, 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.279 DC Congress sends down the money is they send the 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.880 money down to the states that then be distributed by 0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:37.120 the states into local governments underneath their jurisdiction. Well, when 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.400 those grants come to the states, they largely come as 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:43.400 what we know as block grants, which is a category 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.800 of money safe for housing and it's intended to impact 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.600 housing for your entire state. But what happens is when 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.200 it gets to the state level, the state then decides, 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.680 based off of its priorities, where exactly then they want 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:58.800 this money to go at what levels and so on 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:03.080 and so forth. As it also include there's also, by 0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.680 the way, something called categorical grants. These are really the 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.680 two forms of granting that local governments and states kind 0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:12.960 of deal with. Categorical is a very specific, detailed place 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:17.040 that you would like money to go within this category. 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.920 The government doesn't send enough of those down. They largely 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.120 like to deal with block because it's a big sum 0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.880 of money that can then labor later to be decided 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.440 on its distribution at the local level. Well, in a 0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.200 state like mine, where you got a governor, Republican governor 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.480 who loves to take punitive measures against what we call 0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:39.200 blue cities inside of red states and those are more 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:43.440 democratically voting cities that likely didn't vote for him, is 0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:49.400 he likes to penalize withhold redirect resources to more friendly 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:52.640 and more conservative parts of the state. And I'm willing 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:56.640 to bet that that attitude is true and more states 0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:59.880 with more governors than we'll ever hear admitted by those 0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:02.360 by those respective governors. 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.520 To make a quick question here, Andrew, yeah, yeah, because 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:10.440 I'm just making this connection that because the blue states 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:16.200 pay more into the system, but red states benefit more, 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:16.840 do I have. 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.839 Any And then once you become once you get into 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.560 the red state, then the red cities or the red 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:27.560 counties tend to end up absorbing more of their share 0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.399 of the pot than what they contribute into the pot. 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.560 And who lives in those blue spots. 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.399 You know who, you know who who you know who's where. 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:40.080 That's for damn sure. And then the one very clear 0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.680 example I'd like to give for folks, because many of 0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:51.040 us no benefited no about Obamacare or the Affordable Healthcare Act, Well, 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:55.560 there was also the expansion of Medicaid and Medicaid that 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.320 was included as part of how it was that the 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:02.000 president was one to get health care into the hands 0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:03.520 of the people who need it the most. This is 0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.160 a huge issue for most Americans who are coming out 0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.520 of pocket, you know, with money that they don't have 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.840 just to ensure to their livelihood. Well, if you're in 0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:15.440 a state like mine, Florida, guess who didn't expand medicaid 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.320 in the state. It was the state of Florida and 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:22.000 many other red states. And so there's a Federal Health 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.759 Care Act where the federal government says, we're going to 0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.320 pay for one hundred percent of the cost of expansion 0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:32.360 of this program, and then after a number of years, 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:36.360 we'll pay ninety percent and you state of filling the 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:41.080 blank state of Florida, you'll pay ten percent. So we 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.600 had money that was free money coming to us from 0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:46.880 the federal government that never got into the hands of 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.480 the people that it was intended because the governors decided 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:54.640 that they would not extend, expand those programs to include 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:58.600 those people. That's very clear example of federal money coming 0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.520 down to a state to of a specific purpose and 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.600 a governor and a government deciding that money ain't getting there, 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:06.239 not at all. In fact, we won't even take it. 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:07.840 You hold on to it and go give it to 0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.560 I don't know anybody else but us. I. 0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.200 Yeah, I really appreciate that breakdown. I think it's so important. Andrew, 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.480 like we talk about all the time, we all have 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:21.840 approached our political careers in different facets, and state and 0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:23.719 local is something that I don't know well at all, 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.400 Like it is a complete blind spot. So I deeply 0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:30.480 appreciate that. And even around snap TIF, I was like, 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:32.440 how is there nothing in here? I was going back 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:35.640 through all the articles and that was like, there's nothing 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:37.400 on snap We went back through, there's one hundred and 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:41.440 eighty eight pages for this year's budget or for twenty five. 0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.120 Me and Lolo our researcher. Shout out to Lolo and 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.160 Nick who's always keeping us sometimes. I was I was like, well, 0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.520 I just five me anyway, But Lolo is saying she 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.320 couldn't find anything. And what they did in this budget 0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:54.560 is they say, if you want to see a change 0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:57.400 in SNAP, you got to pass you got to reauthorize 0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:00.399 the Farm Bill. And so there's that Pece. I don't 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:03.040 know why they didn't break that out in this budget. 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.160 And that's a great question we can ask the administration. 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:06.640 I'm sure they'd be happy to answer. 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:11.000 Well for not even posing that, you know, but well, 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:12.719 here we are, here, we are, we have. 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:18.040 We want to know what your proposers as well, because 0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:19.480 you count what counts. 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:21.279 Yeah, that's their very true. 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:24.640 Yes, well, we're asking the question. We just want to 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.800 know what is the increase for SNAP benefits. We know 0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:30.160 it is going to be much different than what Donald 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.680 Trump did, which was please pull that number. I think 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.400 it was an eighty five million dollar cut in SNAP. Lolo, 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:37.200 please fact check. Did I say cut? 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:39.279 No, no, no, no, no, Angela, you said it just 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:39.760 a million. 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:41.640 I just want to make sure eighty five million dollars 0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:43.680 and cuts to SNAP, Lolo, if you can fact check 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:44.120 me on that. 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.359 But I wanted to say to do a tiffany really quick. 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:50.719 I'm calling this doing a Tiffany, SNAP is the supplemental 0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:54.160 Nutrition Assistance program, So I want to make sure we're 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:54.600 clear on that. 0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:58.480 Tiff said, food stamps, that's a very similar thing. It 0:51:58.600 --> 0:51:59.680 is support. 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:05.080 So based on what Lolo found, Donald Trump's cuts to 0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:10.080 SNAP benefits again food stamps was slashing that by fifteen 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:15.000 billion dollars, along with reductions in federal crop insurance subsidies. 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:17.719 But for some reason, farmers has thought that he was 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:18.439 on their side. 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:21.200 He is not. Nationwide, Andrew, go ahead with the video, 0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:21.920 I know you were going to. 0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:24.920 I'm sorry, can I get fact check something really quickly? 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:29.320 This is according because I like to site facts and 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.320 sources so people know it's not us saying this. This 0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.399 is according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:40.120 Donald Trump's twenty twenty one budget proposes to cut the 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.920 SNAP benefits by more than one hundred and eighty billion 0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:47.839 dollars nearly thirty percent over the next ten years by 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:52.359 radically restructuring how benefits are delivered, taking SNAP away from 0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:54.719 millions of adults who are not working more than twenty 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:59.320 hours per week. During the Trump administration, they considerably reduced this. 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:03.080 Not only they reduced it, they started applying more restrictions 0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:07.200 on who could get SNAP benefits, which made it like 0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:10.200 almost impossible for people. And I'll just say to somebody 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:13.759 in my family who gets SNAP benefits, it's not enough. 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:18.239 I have to supplement that food income every single month. 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.400 They expect you to live off two hundred dollars a 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.560 month sometimes, and you have to consider it's not just food. 0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:27.520 It is deodorant, it is toothpaste, it's toilet paper, paper, 0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:29.080 basic needs for life. 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:30.440 This is what snapcover. 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.640 Sorry, Andrew, I'll just say, Angela, you were going in 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.960 the direction with your comments that that farmers thought that 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.200 Republicans loved them and that the president would love them. 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.560 But you saw the cut that was proposed that in 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.960 that department's budget. And I'll tell you, the farmers are 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:48.120 still getting their subsidies, in fact, are getting enhanced subsidies. 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.640 What was what cover was from that budget. The cut 0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:55.080 that we see represented from the Trump administration and Agriculture 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.040 has to do with the fact that SNAP benefits, food 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:03.480 subsidy programs, after school fool lunches, during school lunches, weekend 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.759 feeding programs, all of that is caught up in the 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:12.759 budget for agriculture. Agriculture isn't sitting inside housing in urban development. 0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:18.000 Those food subsidy programs and benefits are within that department's budget. 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.040 And so when we see cuts to them and you think, oh, well, 0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:22.640 they're trying, you know, I thought he was on the 0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:24.480 side of the big farmers, and of this he is. 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.719 Those subsidies for those farmers are still there. What is 0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:30.920 gone is the subsidies for working people, poor families who 0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.600 depend on those services in order to eat, in order 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.439 to live. When we when we What is great about 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.200 this video, and I'm so glad that we're getting to 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.239 talk a bit about the budget, is that for those 0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.880 who are deluded into believing that this that that Donald 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:46.279 Trump in any way offers something to our states, to 0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:51.320 our communities, to our households, to us as individuals in 0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.279 line with being greater than what you have received under 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:58.480 Democrat administrations, and I'll be more specific under Joe Biden, 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:03.279 just look at the Just look at where they are 0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:07.239 proposing to take away in order to give. And what 0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.560 you will notice in Trump's budget is that all the 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:12.680 give was to the wealthiest one percent, and it was 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.000 paid for because the federal government didn't have the money 0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:17.719 to do it. In future years. It is paid for 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:22.560 by taking away from affordable housing, from food subsidy programs, 0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:26.319 from child assistance programs, from the child tax credit, from 0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.080 the earned income tax credit, all those things get slashed, 0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:31.800 while he then puts money into the bank accounts of 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.880 the wealthiest one percent, the people who needed the least. 0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:37.399 And so I love if we get an opportunity, either 0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:39.680 in poster or now, to just play that so that 0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:41.960 viewers who are seeing this get to see it. 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.320 We need to play it because there's some parts of 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:45.319 this that you need to read. 0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:48.960 One other flag for you, all regarding snap is during 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:52.440 the Trump administration, they also proposeed the elimination of food 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:56.080 stamps for seven hundred thousand people. And fortunately that's where 0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:58.760 the judicial system was on our side and they prevented 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:03.640 the Donald Trump administration for implementing that rule. So Andrew, 0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.719 at this point, you want to go ahead show people 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.920 how the budget works. And then I do still have 0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:09.840 one thing I want to get to on HBCUs. 0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:11.760 Indeed, I'll read them as quickly as bussibly. 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:14.879 This is all according to now this the outlet. 0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:17.239 Fifteen point six billion he proposes for customs in butter 0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:21.000 protection an increase of seven percent, by the way, two 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:24.040 billion for the wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for. 0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:27.239 Y'all remember that nine point nine billion for immigration and 0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:31.080 Customs enforcement, an increase of twenty three percent over their 0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:35.160 previous budget. What one trillion for infrastructure spending up virten years, 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:38.719 including two hundred billion but nationally significant projects. And the 0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:41.920 cuts to pay for that budget were four hundred and 0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:46.600 sixty five billion dollars for medicare providers, seven hundred billion 0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:51.360 in cuts to Medicaid over the next decade, workforce requirements, 0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:55.000 food stamps, housing assistants came with new requirements, seventy billion 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:59.120 in cuts to federal disability insurance, one hundred and seventy 0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:02.840 billion dollars cutting student loan forgiveness. The budget calls for 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:04.759 extending Trump's tax cuts, you know, the ones to the 0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.080 top one percent till twenty twenty three, at the cost 0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:10.920 of one point four trillion dollars. He proposed to pay 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:15.280 for that trillion plus with a negative nine percent negative 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.840 nine percent down in that from for the Department of Agriculture, 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:22.960 negative eight percent down. So it moved quickly because there's 0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:24.760 a lot of information that when you're dealing with the budgets, 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:28.440 the size of the United States, right. But the beauty 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:32.680 is is for folks who want to say Donald Trump 0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:34.840 gave us this, and I got more money, and I 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:36.280 got a check in the mail, and I got a 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:39.200 this that had his name on it. The real, the truth, 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:43.960 the what really went down is what is being reflected here, 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:46.680 which is that all those things that you think he 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:50.120 did for us, in fact, he was taking away right 0:57:50.240 --> 0:57:52.320 before our eyes. The man is a trickster, that's all 0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:52.720 I'm saying. 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.080 Well, and the point that he made that you that 0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.000 we're going really fast, so wludos to you, Andrew. But 0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:00.600 he cut the CDC budget by No. Nine percent in 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:01.680 February of twenty twenty. 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:03.560 We know what happened. In March of twenty twenty, there 0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:04.680 was a global pandemic. 0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:05.400 Angela. 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.520 I'm curious about your because I know this is something 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.960 that was really important to you about saying that the 0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:11.280 budget reflects priorities. 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:13.000 One thing when you were explaining to me. 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:16.640 Earlier is that you worked on Capitol Hill for a 0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:19.200 number of years executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus, 0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:22.800 and you were explaining to me that staffers would be 0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.480 given the responsibility of looking at the budget, taking a 0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.120 section and looking at it and explaining. 0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.720 To the member. So I'm keenly curious to hear how 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:31.800 you feel about this budget. 0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:34.000 Yeah, so yes. 0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.680 I worked on the Homeland Security Committee, and every committee 0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.640 staff goes and takes their the Department of Homeland Security 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.760 for example, for US, and we combed through it to 0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.200 see if it's in alignment with our chair or the 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:48.520 ranking member, if you're not in the majority of the committee. 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.320 And I think for me, the frustration I have is 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:55.520 the heightened priority to securing the border when there are 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:57.080 so many deep needs in the community. 0:58:57.520 --> 0:58:59.120 TIF and Andrew y'all went in deep. 0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:03.120 About snap, I mean alone the other priorities for kids 0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.360 in K through twelve HBCUs, which is a place I 0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:08.640 think that there's a highlight we can actually talk about 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.840 in a clear distinction we can draw. You know, Donald 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:15.240 Trump has been has been known to say that he 0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:20.720 saved HBCUs when President Obama wouldn't give them long term funding, 0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:23.800 which is preposterous. And one of the things I do 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:25.920 want to do is just take a moment to highlight 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:30.360 just a couple of points in this year's budget from 0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:35.120 the Biden Administration for institutional capacity alone, not just for 0:59:35.360 --> 0:59:40.080 HBCUs but also other minority serving institutions. There is a 0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:45.360 proposal of three hundred and twenty nine million more than 0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:51.400 where levels currently are for institutional that's for institutional capacity 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:55.320 of those schools. Additionally, for R and D that's research 0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:58.960 and development, they proposed another one hundred million, and for 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:03.240 STEM education at these schools one point four billion dollars. 1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:05.840 The one thing that I think is a highlight, because 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:08.200 we have been talking about people in our communities in need, 1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.240 they are offering or proposing. I have to make sure 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:15.280 I say that because even with Trump's budget is a proposal. 1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:19.200 Those things aren't automatically appropriated, which is another important word. 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:20.280 This is authorization. 1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:23.840 There's authorization language, there are bills that propose these priorities, 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:26.240 and then there are bills that fund these priorities. So 1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:30.200 it's not appropriated yet. But they offer two years propose 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:34.360 I keep saying, offer two years of subsidized tuition at 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:38.240 HBCUs for families earning one hundred and twenty five thousand 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.400 dollars or less. That is fantastic, and I think it's 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:44.360 great for them because they've been very consistent in providing 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.840 student relief for tuition related payments. We've seen it with 1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:51.480 student loan debt relief and now here with subsidized tuition. 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:54.000 Of course, there's pail grants, there's a proposed increase in 1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:56.760 pal and that kind of thing. But yeah, I wanted 1:00:56.800 --> 1:00:59.880 to get into this because I think we often talk 1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:01.800 about policy as. 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:03.920 Like this big, like this high floaty concept. 1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:07.320 But there's a clear way to determine if people are 1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:10.200 supporting priorities that you're aligned with or not, and that 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.680 is looking at what they've proposed in the budget, going 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:14.480 beyond what they stayed in the State of the Union, 1:01:14.840 --> 1:01:18.800 seeing what each of their cabinet secretaries and those departments 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:23.080 they oversee have pushed forward as their proposal recommendations, and 1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:26.360 how that's different from the administrations that preceded them, and 1:01:26.520 --> 1:01:30.080 even how it's different from their prior year budget. 1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:33.680 I just got to say where we're talking tuitions. The 1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:38.360 Biden budget also proposes a new program to ensure affordable care, 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:41.800 affordable childcare, and I y'all know how I am about 1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:43.000 child Carey. 1:01:42.840 --> 1:01:46.120 Yes, sixty dads. 1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:50.800 And to all dads and moms who are struggling with 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:53.200 what it means. I mean, you almost feel like you 1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:55.840 hit the lottery when your kids are out of childcare 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:59.640 because they naturally going to a public system where you're 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.440 not paying is well, it'll catch in the summer, but 1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:05.560 you're not paying that monthly expense that that that you're 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:07.320 so used to. So let me just finish that point, 1:02:07.560 --> 1:02:10.080 which is a program to us. You're investing four hundred 1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:13.600 billion dollars over the next ten years to cap the 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:17.800 costs for families and expand childcare subsidies and tax credits 1:02:18.080 --> 1:02:20.919 for those businesses. And the reason why, like I said, 1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:25.160 during the pandemic, they increased that amount threefold. They went 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:28.040 from three hundred dollars with nobody takes a child and 1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:30.160 care for them for a month outside of their parents 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:33.280 care for three hundred dollars a month. Nobody's doing that, okay, 1:02:33.720 --> 1:02:36.200 So they to take that up to nine hundred dollars, 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:40.280 so that for each child, the benefit, the tax benefit 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:42.880 that came to us what was it, I think four 1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:46.040 times a year. They ended up factoring it into sort 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:48.400 of waiting for you to file your taxes and get 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.440 that in one fell swoop. Every four months you were 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:55.280 getting to check from the federal government for your as 1:02:55.320 --> 1:02:57.560 a part of the child tax Credit, so that you 1:02:57.680 --> 1:02:59.520 didn't have to wait till the end to the beginning 1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:02.040 of the next year to then reap the benefit of it. 1:03:02.120 --> 1:03:04.479 That you got to reap the benefit of it every 1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:08.320 four months because we're paying these expenses every single day. Yeah, 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:11.200 and that we're being then reimbursed come the end of 1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:14.200 the you know, come the next year. I can't underscore 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:16.640 enough what it means for families and families with children. 1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:22.160 How prioritizing families but after they are born, by the way, 1:03:23.000 --> 1:03:26.600 is such a critical value to this administration. And it 1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:29.280 shows up here, It shows up in their healthcare proposals, 1:03:29.520 --> 1:03:33.400 it shows up in the school assistance, and in many 1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:35.840 of the other programs. This is our money getting returned 1:03:35.880 --> 1:03:38.120 to us. It's not a gift, unlike what it is 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:41.080 for the for the corporate community who is experiencing the 1:03:41.560 --> 1:03:45.080 tremendous tax breaks under the Trump administration, that isn't money 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:48.560 that they've earned. That's our money being then distributed to them. 1:03:48.840 --> 1:03:50.520 As a case and Andrew on that point. 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:54.000 Prior to Donald Trump being in office, corporations were taxed 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:56.560 that a rate of thirty five percent. Under Donald Trump, 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:59.400 they dropped down to twenty one percent, and Joe Biden 1:03:59.480 --> 1:04:02.240 is still not raising them to the levels pre Trump. 1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:05.400 He's raising them by seven percent to twenty eight percent 1:04:05.480 --> 1:04:07.560 in this proposed budget. I do want to run this 1:04:07.800 --> 1:04:12.320 quick clip. I'm speaking of corporations being taxed because Biden 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:15.280 is planning to pay for most of this by increasing 1:04:15.400 --> 1:04:17.040 the taxes of the rich. 1:04:17.800 --> 1:04:21.920 You know, there are one thousand billionaires in America. You 1:04:22.000 --> 1:04:25.920 know what the average federal taxes for those billionaires. No, 1:04:27.920 --> 1:04:32.680 they're making great sacrifices eight point two percent. That's far 1:04:32.840 --> 1:04:37.240 less than the vast majority of Americans pay. No, billionaires 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:39.440 should pay a lower federal tax rate than a teacher, 1:04:39.520 --> 1:04:54.040 or sanitation worker or a nurse. I propose a minimum 1:04:54.200 --> 1:04:58.080 tax for billionaires of twenty five percent, just twenty five percent. 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:00.880 What it's forty percent effectively for. 1:05:00.920 --> 1:05:01.520 The rest of us. 1:05:01.600 --> 1:05:04.920 But about that, and they still have it anyway, that's 1:05:04.960 --> 1:05:06.600 the story for anotherday. But they still have it hired 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:10.120 for us. This has been an illuminating conversation. I didn't 1:05:10.120 --> 1:05:11.440 I didn't even know we were going to do such 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:13.800 a deep dive on Snap, But based on the questions 1:05:13.840 --> 1:05:16.560 that we get every week from our listeners, where we 1:05:16.640 --> 1:05:19.280 find relief is something that's abundantly important to us all, 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:21.880 not just in our community, but especially in our community. 1:05:21.920 --> 1:05:25.120 We know that when America catches the cold, we might 1:05:25.200 --> 1:05:27.320 have COVID. We used to say pneumonia, might be COVID, 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:32.480 orry punks something. 1:05:32.600 --> 1:05:35.920 Yeah, yeah, all of it. 1:05:36.200 --> 1:05:39.680 Yeah, Okay, right after this break, we'll get into one 1:05:39.720 --> 1:05:41.960 more listener question, and of course we have a Maryland 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:42.600 Mo's we update. 1:05:51.160 --> 1:05:53.800 Hey, David Lampard, this is Tony from Dallas. 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:54.880 Question for you. 1:05:55.720 --> 1:06:00.280 The Biden Harris administration recently released a new campaign video Sensor, 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:03.040 around the story of a white female doctor in Texas 1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:06.440 who left the state due to the abortion whites fan Now, 1:06:06.520 --> 1:06:08.640 my question to you is, why do you think the 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:11.600 same amount of attention is not being focused on black 1:06:11.640 --> 1:06:15.160 and brown disaffective voters as it pertains to voting rights 1:06:15.360 --> 1:06:19.439 and affirmative action restoration. Similar stories could be told, such 1:06:19.440 --> 1:06:22.200 as the current legal battle that's happening with Aaron Simones, 1:06:22.280 --> 1:06:25.120 the Fearless Fun, and the weaponization of the civil rights 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:26.480 at nineteen eighty six. 1:06:27.360 --> 1:06:29.960 That's perfect for you, Angela, because you just you were 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:32.160 just with the Fearless Fun this week, I think, but 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:35.480 i'd been here, I says frustrations about this all the time, 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:38.200 so I'd love for you to jump on that. 1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:41.280 I yeah, I think we all talk about this both 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:44.480 on and we always joke now y'all that we anytime 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:46.880 we're in conversation, we're like having a podcast. We were 1:06:46.920 --> 1:06:49.120 doing it at south By, Like we're standing in the 1:06:49.200 --> 1:06:52.600 lobby talking and folks, it's so MANI podcasts. I think 1:06:52.760 --> 1:06:56.760 for me, I definitely share the frustration. It feels like 1:06:57.600 --> 1:07:00.560 there's not a real sense of urgency around on the 1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:04.880 equity pieces, around an agenda that ensures our survival and 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:08.560 liberation in this country. I do think it's very dangerous 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:12.960 for us to start finding ways to separate ourselves from others. 1:07:13.000 --> 1:07:16.400 There are black women who are more impacted by an 1:07:16.440 --> 1:07:20.640 abortion ban and reproductive justice issues, and folks who are 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:24.920 less fortunate, lower income than white women. And I think 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:27.400 if there's a way for us to bring people in 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:30.240 by focusing on those issues, we've got to do that. 1:07:30.520 --> 1:07:32.760 But we can also walk in chew gum at the 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:35.720 same damn time. We better figure out how to Arian 1:07:35.800 --> 1:07:38.400 Simone who shout out to I'm an honorary rattler. I've 1:07:38.440 --> 1:07:38.920 told you all that. 1:07:41.000 --> 1:07:42.720 But arian Simone is killing it. 1:07:42.880 --> 1:07:45.280 I was on a panel with her yesterday, a round 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:48.800 table discussion that Congressman Maxine Waters held on Capitol Hill. 1:07:49.200 --> 1:07:49.880 I'm getting into it. 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:51.200 Oh sorry, my bad. 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:56.800 I was on a round table discussion yesterday that Congressman 1:07:56.920 --> 1:08:00.800 Maxine Waters held on Capitol Hill talking about the attacks 1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:05.840 on DEI at the hands of MAGA Republicans, and Arianne Simone, 1:08:06.160 --> 1:08:08.960 who is the co founder of the Fearless Fund, sat 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:11.959 to my right and tore it down. She talked about 1:08:12.000 --> 1:08:14.720 the lack of access to venture capital. She talked about 1:08:14.760 --> 1:08:17.000 the ways in which black women are the highest growing 1:08:17.120 --> 1:08:20.120 rate of entrepreneurs in this country, but the lowest funded. 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:22.200 She talked about the fact that many of us are 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:25.680 not in position to fund these companies. They have created 1:08:26.120 --> 1:08:28.080 such a big din in this through the Fearless Fund, 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:30.320 and who came after them, Ed Bloom And if it's 1:08:30.360 --> 1:08:33.400 not Ed Bloom's America First legal right, Well, we have 1:08:33.520 --> 1:08:36.280 to be very aware of those attacks and we cannot 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:39.599 play footsye with them. Another sister on the panel, God 1:08:39.760 --> 1:08:42.320 forgive me for not remembering her name. She's a brilliant 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:45.720 attorney at the Lawyer's Committee. She said something and I'll 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:47.960 never forget it. I even tweeted it yesterday. She said 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:52.360 we should not do the opponent's work for them, and 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:54.920 what that means even in campaigning, what that means in 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:56.960 a state of the union. Address what that means when 1:08:57.000 --> 1:08:59.639 Kamala is sitting with governors from all over the country 1:08:59.680 --> 1:09:02.080 and they are doing what she says needed to be done, 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:04.719 we need to be telling them take it a step 1:09:04.800 --> 1:09:08.160 further on equity, be boulder in your anti racist policies, 1:09:08.360 --> 1:09:10.960 ensure that we're represented in an affirmative action. 1:09:11.400 --> 1:09:12.280 Make them. Sue you. 1:09:12.640 --> 1:09:15.360 I got a program for professional professional development program with 1:09:15.439 --> 1:09:17.000 one hundred students from all over this country. 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:21.720 They are black, Sue me. I wish you would bring it. 1:09:22.240 --> 1:09:22.840 That's the point. 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:26.080 So we need a campaign that says that against democracy 1:09:26.200 --> 1:09:28.880 and all the attacks that we're facing on voting rights, 1:09:28.920 --> 1:09:31.519 and all the attacks that we're facing on reproductive justice, 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:33.719 and all the attacks that we're facing on livable wage, 1:09:33.800 --> 1:09:37.040 on a federal job guarantee, everything across the board. We 1:09:37.280 --> 1:09:41.639 need to stand shoulder to shoulder, unashamed and clear, flat footed, 1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:45.280 ten toes down on business and say here we are 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:45.880 deal with it. 1:09:45.960 --> 1:09:47.439 If you don't like it. Sue us. But it is 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:49.040 going to be liberty and justice for all if I 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:50.680 got something to do with it. So I rack with 1:09:50.760 --> 1:09:51.479 this brother's question. 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:53.479 I love that, and I love that you were on 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:58.200 the hearing yesterday or the roundtable. The round table and 1:09:58.360 --> 1:10:02.360 that was your mentor, Congressman Maxine Waters. I love that 1:10:02.479 --> 1:10:06.479 you were participating in that, and forgive me areas and over, 1:10:06.680 --> 1:10:09.120 I literally have only called her a fearless fund So 1:10:09.200 --> 1:10:11.480 I'm happy that you actually said she's fearless. 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:14.200 Yeah, clearly, So shout out to you for doing your work. 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.759 Sorry, she's fearless, she's a rat leer, and she's a delta. 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:23.360 I did want to mention that Angela one beautifully beautifully 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:27.120 stated too. I want to nominate Maxine Waters to be 1:10:27.479 --> 1:10:31.840 heading up the campaign's outreach funds to outreach efforts to 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:37.360 include as the brother evoked in his question around reproductive rights, Angela, 1:10:37.360 --> 1:10:39.559 your point is well taken. We don't have to choose 1:10:39.600 --> 1:10:41.840 between all the problem with this is that our fights 1:10:41.880 --> 1:10:45.000 are so manifold. We got to have battlefront. We got 1:10:45.080 --> 1:10:48.560 battlefront set up on every part of this landscape. And 1:10:48.680 --> 1:10:51.200 what the other side wants us to do is negotiate 1:10:51.320 --> 1:10:54.559 our way out of what we all know we deserve 1:10:54.720 --> 1:10:57.920 by pitting our issues against each other. And I believe 1:10:57.920 --> 1:11:00.400 the attorney was getting at, don't do the pont has 1:11:00.439 --> 1:11:02.560 worked for them is oftentimes and all of us have 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:05.000 been in these conversations where we're in rooms with people 1:11:05.160 --> 1:11:08.400 of like mine and we're finding each other negotiating against 1:11:08.439 --> 1:11:10.200 ourselves to get what we believe it is going to 1:11:10.240 --> 1:11:13.400 be acceptable. The other side is just putting out what 1:11:13.600 --> 1:11:15.479 they want where they want to go, and they're like, 1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:19.200 I did you just like ange what I'm saying so 1:11:20.720 --> 1:11:21.360 beautiful point. 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:23.600 I don't want to say what I want to say beautiful. 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:25.559 Beautiful point and a and and better than a point. 1:11:26.160 --> 1:11:28.200 It's a way of being, y'all. It's a way of it. 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:32.559 It is embody, that embody, that boldness. Tiff they number 1:11:33.000 --> 1:11:35.720 five three on a strong good day and tough and. 1:11:36.000 --> 1:11:41.080 Look she looked at the pictures. 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:42.799 They were like they were like, I didn't know Tiffany 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:44.800 was so shortific Like I didn't know I was either. 1:11:45.160 --> 1:11:48.559 Well people sometimes people say, wow, Angela is tall, like you. 1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:52.320 Were like five uh these five inch platforms she had 1:11:52.360 --> 1:11:57.160 online and the people, Maybe that's what we need to 1:11:57.200 --> 1:11:57.479 tell them. 1:11:57.479 --> 1:11:59.200 Do we need to tell them to put their platforms on? 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:02.080 Do we need to tell them to put their platforms 1:12:02.200 --> 1:12:03.799 on in March for this agenda? 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:08.479 But you know, deeper on the insight is deeper than 1:12:08.520 --> 1:12:10.280 any of us know. This is all part of the 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:15.560 vestiges yesday slavery. It's part of the vestiges of a 1:12:15.640 --> 1:12:18.040 system that isn't designed and built for us, because you're 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:23.400 oftentimes often questioning yourself about what's possible, Should we pursue that, 1:12:23.920 --> 1:12:27.120 should we go with what's you know, more acceptable? Am 1:12:27.160 --> 1:12:29.160 I in the right place? Am I qualified to be 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:30.080 in the right you know? 1:12:30.479 --> 1:12:33.920 So the legacy is normally like, oh, you can't ask 1:12:34.040 --> 1:12:35.880 for that. It's not It's not them, it's. 1:12:37.400 --> 1:12:38.280 It is. 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:42.080 It needs to be a believer. The belief is built 1:12:42.120 --> 1:12:44.160 out of a lived experience that has taught you time 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:46.479 and time again about what you just do. 1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:51.679 Yeah, can can I just say why Arion Simon's work 1:12:51.840 --> 1:12:55.200 is so important? And this is old data now, But 1:12:55.240 --> 1:12:58.360 in twenty sixteen, the Center for Global Policy Solutions said 1:12:58.400 --> 1:13:03.240 discrimination and bias in favor of funders funding companies run 1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:07.120 by white men cause the United States to lose out 1:13:07.520 --> 1:13:11.240 on over one point one million minority owned businesses and 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:14.720 forfeit more than nine million potential job opportunities. 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:17.400 So when you hurt us, you hurt yourself. 1:13:17.880 --> 1:13:21.000 Hurting yourself, don't hurt yourself like yance. 1:13:21.800 --> 1:13:26.639 Listen here, Okay, Well on that taking making those women's lemonade, 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:29.519 because that is only the thing that Haryan Simone could do. 1:13:29.640 --> 1:13:32.040 This Women's History Month that I've reclaimed as Black Women's 1:13:32.120 --> 1:13:35.080 History Month, we are going to talk about another Black 1:13:35.120 --> 1:13:37.920 women's history maker. Just briefly, as we segue into calls 1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:42.519 to action, I just want to acknowledge again our dear 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:45.559 sister Marilyn Moseby. You all know that she's been raped 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:48.400 across the coals in these two criminal trials, both of 1:13:48.439 --> 1:13:50.240 which she should have never even had to sit for. 1:13:51.320 --> 1:13:54.720 You all have responded boldly, and it really I mean 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:56.160 I was kind of caught on my heels because I 1:13:56.240 --> 1:13:57.920 was like, well, we would go rev up to the 1:13:58.000 --> 1:13:59.439 call to action, But y'all are like, now I got 1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:00.439 a call action for y'all. 1:14:00.560 --> 1:14:01.439 What we're doing next? 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:04.679 We write it down as our friend Jamail will readily 1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:07.920 respond with anytime there is a call to action. 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:09.960 And I think there are two things for you all 1:14:10.000 --> 1:14:10.200 to do. 1:14:10.320 --> 1:14:14.200 And the immediate one is Maryland has a GoFundMe that 1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:16.400 folks have set up for her, just helped to pay 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:18.280 some of the monthly bills. You all know that she's 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:22.479 got two young daughters. We are not the recipients of 1:14:22.640 --> 1:14:25.240 that fund. We are not holding that fun. There are 1:14:25.320 --> 1:14:27.879 people out here in this country who do that regularly. 1:14:28.080 --> 1:14:30.479 You won't ever catch us doing that, no shade, but 1:14:30.600 --> 1:14:33.120 maybe a little bit. And then I would also say 1:14:34.280 --> 1:14:37.800 that we where's my Oh. The other thing is there 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:41.120 will soon be a petition made available. But until that 1:14:41.240 --> 1:14:44.559 petition is up, there will be a rally on March 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:47.240 twenty third in Baltimore, and we'll make sure to get 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:49.960 those details up and available for you all in the 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:52.439 credits for this show as well as on our Native 1:14:52.520 --> 1:14:54.720 lamp Pod page, which we hope you are following on 1:14:54.840 --> 1:14:56.320 social at Native lamppod. 1:14:57.360 --> 1:14:59.320 And with that, I wanted to refer to my co 1:14:59.520 --> 1:15:01.720 hosts for their calls to action. 1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:04.400 Andrew, you go, I'll go last. 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:07.240 You know I'm co signing every day on the Maryland 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:07.960 most reactions. 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:12.320 Okay, yes, yeah, Well, thank you for that, Andrew, and 1:15:12.479 --> 1:15:15.200 for always sharing your testimony. When we talked talked through 1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:18.160 this reminding people because, like I say, not too many 1:15:18.200 --> 1:15:20.280 people square up against the federal government and live to 1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:23.960 tell about it. So it's just we You went through 1:15:23.960 --> 1:15:25.640 what you didn't deserve, and Maryland is going through what 1:15:25.720 --> 1:15:27.839 she didn't deserve. So I love how you're passin committed 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:29.840 to that, and I of course echoed that call to action. 1:15:30.280 --> 1:15:32.840 My last call to action I would say is if 1:15:32.880 --> 1:15:35.240 you are a fan of Native Land Pod, I would 1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:38.640 ask you to share this episode. Specifically, Angela had the 1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:42.800 genius idea to say, let's talk about the budget, and 1:15:42.960 --> 1:15:45.599 this conversation went a lot of different directions. The most 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:49.559 important thing is connecting how the budget impacts your everyday life. 1:15:50.360 --> 1:15:52.360 A lot of people have that question. So if you 1:15:52.439 --> 1:15:55.760 know someone who says things like you know, Trump gave 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:59.519 more to HBCUs, Angela breaks that down and with facts 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:02.200 and references and cite sources on why that's not true. 1:16:03.200 --> 1:16:05.439 We try to communicate with you in a way that's 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:08.200 very digestible and confidence because that's how we talk to 1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:11.800 each other. And so often the cable news platforms are 1:16:11.880 --> 1:16:15.600 not considering you the beltwegh media, they are not considering you. 1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:20.479 We consider you, you center everything we talk about, and 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:23.040 so if you have someone in your family who's not 1:16:23.200 --> 1:16:25.559 clear on things, we try to break these things down, 1:16:25.640 --> 1:16:28.000 share this episode with them, Post this episode on your 1:16:28.040 --> 1:16:31.000 social media, tell your friends to listen, talk about it 1:16:31.080 --> 1:16:34.479 in your group chats. Because Antela was the first person 1:16:34.560 --> 1:16:36.240 to say this to me, but I think it's so important. 1:16:36.560 --> 1:16:39.879 None of us here are trying to build individual brands. 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:43.679 We are trying to build community. So Welcome home, y'all. 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:47.080 Invite more people into this home because you get knowledge, 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:51.920 you get seen, and hopefully, collectively we make sure this 1:16:52.040 --> 1:16:53.680 here democracy serves us as well. 1:16:57.160 --> 1:16:59.400 Before we end this show, I just want to remind 1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:02.360 everyone to leave us a review and subscribe to Native 1:17:02.439 --> 1:17:06.839 Lampod where available on all platforms and YouTube. New episodes 1:17:06.920 --> 1:17:11.000 drop every Thursday around ten am ish and then we have. 1:17:11.080 --> 1:17:12.920 A YouTube that drops later on in the day. 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:16.360 You can also follow us on social media. We are 1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:20.280 Angela Raie, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillum. 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