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Speaker 1: Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all, Welcome home.

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Speaker 1: This is episode ten of Native LAMPI where we break

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Speaker 1: down all things politics and culture. We're your hosts, Angela Rye,

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillham. What are we celebrating this week, y'all?

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Speaker 1: T week we introduced an award, but we didn't win

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Speaker 1: the award.

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Speaker 3: Andrew take the award home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that.

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Speaker 5: We were at south By Southwest.

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Speaker 6: For the iHeart Podcast Awards and got to present an award.

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Speaker 6: But more importantly, we got to spend time together and

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Speaker 6: I really I had such a great time with y'all.

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Speaker 5: We ate all the things that the food.

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Speaker 2: There is so good. Our last meal that we not

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Speaker 2: the last supper, but the last meal we had that

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Speaker 2: whatever it was. I'm not going to name check the spot,

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Speaker 2: but I've been reflecting on that on that meal for

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Speaker 2: a minute, y'all. So thank you so delicious name checking

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Speaker 2: when they become sponsors.

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Speaker 6: Wow, check somebody real quick, who is a sponsored the

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Speaker 6: gathering spot? Because they let us record here every week

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Speaker 6: the spot.

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Speaker 2: Oh and I just shot y'all out too, I often

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Speaker 2: find myself. I've been in probably more of your audiences

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Speaker 2: Angela and live and in person that I have TIFFs.

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Speaker 2: But both these women were on various panels asself By Southwest,

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Speaker 2: and it is a good feeling to sit and watch

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Speaker 2: y'all's brilliance on display. So keep being bad.

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Speaker 3: Thanks brother.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you, guys, we want to shout out

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Speaker 1: and review our show. We are so grateful for you again,

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Speaker 1: welcome home. So here's the rundown for today. We had

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Speaker 1: a time this week at south By Southwest. We just

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Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit, but one part we

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Speaker 1: didn't talk about is how fine my co hosts are.

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Speaker 7: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't see these carpet pictures and these pictures

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Speaker 3: Shout out to all of our new podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Man who we met in Austin, and thank you for

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming love it was seen, felt, and heard, and

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Speaker 1: on that note, feeling the love and I hope that

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Speaker 1: she feels it. Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge

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Speaker 1: announced earlier this week that she would be retiring after

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Speaker 1: five decades of public service.

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Speaker 3: She served as a mayor.

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Speaker 1: I know hadn't counter spoke service, but she was the

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Speaker 1: president of Delta's I'm not a Delta. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that keeps happening. But nonetheless, Marcia Fudge, we love you,

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Speaker 1: we see you for a congresswoman. We know that your

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Speaker 1: footprint and hamprint are all over this budget that we

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Speaker 1: will talk about later speaking of the budget. To shout

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Speaker 1: out Shalanda Young during this Black Women's History or Black

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's cabinet, a Black woman in the cabinet, And

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Speaker 1: this week we're going to talk about something that's near

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Speaker 3: It is the heartbeat of the work she does.

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Speaker 1: She's the Office of Management and Budget Director, and so

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Speaker 1: of course she's had her hands directly on the budget

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Speaker 1: that President Biden brought to Congress, the f y twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five budget, just a couple of days ago. On Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: we will also be talking about that budget and contrast

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Speaker 1: that with the priorities of then President Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: see where they may may be a little bit of discrepancies,

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Speaker 1: because y'all stay in our dms with a lot of discrepancies.

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Speaker 1: And so because surprise, even though we're really not that surprised,

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Speaker 1: as of Tuesday, both Joe Biden and Donald Trump became

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Speaker 1: their respective parties nominees for president, and aco you says,

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Speaker 1: oh hell na to a bipartisan bill that cleared the

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Speaker 1: House banning TikTok in the United States, saying that's clearly

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Speaker 1: a violation of the First Amendment. And also Trump has

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Speaker 1: now gone from ninety one and diamonds to eighty eight

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and some of his co defendants in that

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Speaker 1: Fulton County racketeering case. And of course, we will be

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Speaker 1: answering your questions all throughout this show in LPFAM, and

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Speaker 1: we've got a Maryland Moseby update because woo, y'all do

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Speaker 1: not play about Maryland Moseby. And when I tell you

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Speaker 1: get into it. Shout out to all of you have

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Speaker 1: Stay with us. Okay, everyone, So here we are after

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Speaker 1: a three hundred and fifty two to sixty five vote

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Speaker 1: in the United States House Representatives. This don't happen on

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Speaker 1: nothing but post offices these days, but that's what the

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Speaker 1: vote was on this TikTok band. Surprisingly, so they are

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Speaker 1: trying to ban TikTok in the United States, and now

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Speaker 1: the bill will head over to the Senate. I want

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Speaker 1: to first here's some sound for Donald Trump, because you know,

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Speaker 1: every now and then he got a conflict for several

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Speaker 4: Know, I was at the point where I could have

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Speaker 4: gotten it done if I wanted to. I sort of said,

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Speaker 4: tough decision to make. Frankly, there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: of young kids on TikTok who will go crazy without it.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of users. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: good and there's a lot of bad. With TikTok. But

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Speaker 4: the thing I don't like is that without TikTok, you

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Speaker 4: can make Facebook bigger. And I consider Facebook to be

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Speaker 4: an enemy of the people, along with a lot of

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Speaker 2: Okay, Angelou, by the way, forgetting everything he said prior

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Speaker 2: to that last point, which was Facebook meta whatever they're called.

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Speaker 2: that a bug got drummed in his ear, right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: pedestrian move by him. I'll just say that, But I

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Speaker 2: think it conflicts with he relected.

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Speaker 1: Himself in this actual we haven't showed that yet, right,

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Speaker 3: People see that quick, they're gonna say kids himself the

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Speaker 2: But in the previous his previous statement, y'all, when he

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Speaker 2: That was his position as president when he could do something.

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Speaker 2: Now he's citizen mister eighty one convicted with an eighty

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Speaker 6: Eighty eight and its let the people we wish well,

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Speaker 6: Can I just say this is the danger to me

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Speaker 6: with centering Donald Trump, because it's really not about him.

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Speaker 6: I know we have to talk about him, but y'all

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Speaker 6: know how I feel about it, Like, this is not

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Speaker 6: What the Congress, the lower chamber the House decided was

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Speaker 6: that TikTok would have to essentially emancipate itself from a

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Speaker 6: company called byte Dance.

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Speaker 5: Now that's why that matters.

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Speaker 6: Byte Dance is a Beijing based company, and we have

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Speaker 6: a very complicated and sometimes beneficial bilateral relationship with China.

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Speaker 6: Byte Dance is worth more than twenty million dollars and

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Speaker 6: essentially they would have to sell. The Beijing based company

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Speaker 6: their stake. And the reason why is because, as rightfully so,

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Speaker 6: there's a concern about TikTok sharing US based user data

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Speaker 6: has been information from the US intelligence community that they

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Speaker 6: eye movement, And that might not matter if you think

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Speaker 6: about a twelve year old using TikTok, But when that

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Speaker 5: Well, now we're looking at a national security issue.

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Speaker 6: So I think that's the bigger conversation here because it's

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Speaker 6: not just about TikTok. It's really about our relationship with China.

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Speaker 6: And we just saw I know, this is like foreign policy,

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Speaker 6: a really big issue. And when you look at our

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Speaker 3: This is a big deal.

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Speaker 6: If these two powers, these two nuclear powers, are joining

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Speaker 5: Data, that's a big deal. And that's why this matters.

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Speaker 6: The danger in centering Donald Trump is you are chasing

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Speaker 1: Well, Donald Trump isn't the only one that might have

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Speaker 1: that if Congress passes this TikTok band, he'll sign it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna roll that sound. And then there's one other

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Speaker 3: flag I have for y'all. You still cabandoned the clock.

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Speaker 1: And so here's the thing, though, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I think we're all walking hypocrites about something. But of course,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is running for president. So can you run

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Speaker 1: real national security threat there, But I'm wondering if you

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Speaker 1: all think that there's like, hey, if you going to

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Speaker 1: sign the band, don't use the thing.

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Speaker 6: Look, I would applause the Biden administration for meeting voters

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Speaker 6: who are just coming into this process, you want to say, hey,

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Speaker 6: I'm engaging you. And quite frankly, if you're eighteen years

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Speaker 6: closely you're monitoring foreign policy see issues, not saying that

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Speaker 5: Look, I have a.

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Speaker 6: Challenge with Meta and how they conduct a lot of

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Speaker 2: That same information is being collected right here by domesticated companies,

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Speaker 3: That it's likely.

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Speaker 5: That's been the question.

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Speaker 2: But they are not. Then they're not the only one.

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Speaker 6: A CLU is the American Civil Liberties Union. They are

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Speaker 5: Well there. They have some.

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Speaker 1: presidential politics. Well this is actually a former presidential politics update,

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Speaker 1: but in Fulton County, Judge McAfee is thrown out six

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Speaker 5: I'm questions, I'm confused or what that means?

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Speaker 10: What?

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Speaker 6: So six charges were thrown out, that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: What were those charges? And my biggest question, because I

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: Then then to me, that's the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, no, you hit at it. So the six

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Speaker 2: He very specifically states Georgia law which requires years that

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Speaker 2: federal prosecutor. But in this state of Georgia, and remember

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Speaker 2: this is a Georgia, State of Georgia case, not a

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Speaker 2: he's saying, based off of what precedence is in Georgia

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Speaker 2: regarding this issue, I've got to let these six charges go.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, prosecution, you can refile these charges

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Speaker 6: Ken Republican governor, also widely known voter suppressionists, can he

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Speaker 5: Is that even a possibility?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: Do you all think that he would?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: Because even though Trump has.

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Speaker 5: Yet and still some people still, you know, drink drink

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Speaker 2: So I got to measure this obviously obvious voter suppressionist

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Speaker 5: You know, long before that. He's been doing it a

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, for sure, but he's at his own

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Speaker 2: is that because these are state charges, if Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: But the one caveat I'd offer is he might not

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Speaker 3: He may not ever have to face a state charge.

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Speaker 2: So that's you're right, Angela.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you guys, the thing that really scared

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Speaker 1: me was, and I can understand how they got there,

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Speaker 1: but in the Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Case, nine to zero.

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Speaker 5: Decided to leave him.

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Speaker 1: Nine to zero unanimous Supreme Court decision to ensure that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was able to stay on the ballot in

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Speaker 1: the Republican primary in Colorado, doing it.

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Speaker 3: To ensure that that he would make it in time

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Speaker 3: on that particular ballot.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they would say that he did not

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Speaker 1: violate this particular clause in the Constitution around insurrection, that

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Speaker 1: it would be a violation of the equal protection clause

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Speaker 1: to remove him.

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Speaker 3: Like these are the things where I'm like, Okay, if

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Speaker 3: they're going to be.

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Speaker 1: Strict, you know, strict upholders of the Constitution, how will

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Speaker 1: they expand constitutional protections? And I think that we could

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Speaker 1: be in a place, you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we would be nine zero because folks are there are

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Speaker 1: some folks at least hopefully with Sonya Soto mayor Elena

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Speaker 1: Kagan and with Katanji Brown Jackson, where they would realize

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Speaker 1: the danger outweighs. What you would hope that this country,

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Speaker 1: like we understand what the documents are supposed to mean,

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Speaker 1: that they are supposed to be living and breathing. That

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Speaker 1: does not mean that you should let this dude take

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Speaker 1: us out and die like behind trying to protect the

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Speaker 1: document that like some of these things, you just got

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Speaker 1: to look beyond the plane four corners of the document,

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Speaker 1: because if you looked at it just as it was,

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Speaker 1: that didn't even apply to us. So we were not

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Speaker 1: considered human beings in that document. So what am I

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Speaker 1: really talking about? Evolved that thing based on who's in

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Speaker 1: front of you and what's going on, and it did.

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Speaker 3: All I got to say.

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Speaker 2: She didn't concern me as much, and partly because I

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Speaker 2: think I could see this working a completely different way

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Speaker 2: with a different candidate, you know, under consideration.

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Speaker 3: So I did get that.

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Speaker 2: I take real, you know, issue with an individual state,

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Speaker 2: Let's say, I don't know Alabama, Mississippi deciding whether or

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Speaker 2: not Barack Obama could be on a ballot, right, And

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Speaker 2: so when you have a federal election where the results

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Speaker 2: should be determined by the whole of us, the collective

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Speaker 2: of US got it gets back to the fundamental argument

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Speaker 2: of the Articles of Confederation versus a United States Constitution.

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Speaker 2: The Articles didn't last because an individual state could then

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Speaker 2: trump the power of the federal settled on a federalist

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Speaker 2: system because we didn't want individual states who were a

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Speaker 2: part of the Union to be able to trump and

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Speaker 2: bigfoot over the rest of US. Now, by the way,

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Speaker 2: so many, by the way, it's happening in a presidential

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Speaker 2: election where you have the little states being able to

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Speaker 2: bigfoot over the majority of Americans. I'm just saying, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to court standing ratestive yest. It's completely, completely,

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Speaker 2: completely I think what makes this different, this, this particular

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Speaker 2: case around immunity different is if the court, and they

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Speaker 2: possibly can because they did it in Bush v. Gore.

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Speaker 2: They basically said, we're making this decision, this is why

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Speaker 2: we're making this decision. And by the way, and making

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Speaker 2: this decision, this should never be used as precedents, which

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Speaker 2: means never ever use our decision and this case as

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Speaker 2: a foundation for making the same conclusion in another like case.

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Speaker 2: They said it. The Supreme Court said, as in every

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Speaker 2: other case, Angela, you can agree or you can at

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Speaker 2: least confirm this. When the Supreme Court makes a decision,

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Speaker 2: it becomes the law of the land, and it set

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Speaker 2: precedents for like cases until the Supreme Court reverses itself

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Speaker 2: in a future decision. And bushby Gored they said this

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Speaker 2: should never be president's and never reversible. I only make

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Speaker 2: that point to say this would be such a departure

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Speaker 2: from the federal assistants say the president could basically assassinate

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Speaker 2: his political opponent as president, kill his opponent as president

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Speaker 2: and cannot be prosecuted. You have to draw it out

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Speaker 2: to his logical conclusion. If you say he can if

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Speaker 2: presidential immunity applies to anyone who is president and they

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Speaker 2: cannot be prosecuted for the actions that they take while

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Speaker 2: being president, take its to its furthest conclusion. Can he

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Speaker 2: assassinate his opponent as president and never ever have to

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Speaker 2: pay a consequence for that? The court goes that direction.

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Speaker 2: They are saying that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that is it sounds hyperbolic to people. But

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Speaker 6: what you just said, Andrew, that is a legitimate question

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Speaker 6: to ask you already even said he has said he

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Speaker 6: could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue. Elected Angela, my question

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Speaker 6: for you because you name check three Supreme Court justices

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Speaker 6: with Kagan, Sodomayor, and Jackson. And the reason why Angela

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Speaker 6: name checked those judges is because they are Democratic appointed

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Speaker 6: members of Scotis. Scotus is the Supreme Court of the

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Speaker 6: United States. So when you hear that term, that's what

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Speaker 6: that means. Those are the three left leaning Democratic appointed

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Speaker 6: Justice John Roberts also a justice who was Republican appointed

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Speaker 6: has surprised us sometimes, so I'm asking you precisely. So

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Speaker 6: I'm asking this the question for you, but also to

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Speaker 6: make a point to our viewers. The right prioritizes justices.

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Speaker 5: In a way the left does not.

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Speaker 6: The reason being this is not a criticism of the left.

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Speaker 6: We have so much on our plate. We're under attack

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Speaker 6: on every possible front, so it's hard to do this.

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Speaker 6: My question to you, Angela, as an attorney, given the

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Speaker 6: makeup of this court and we've had some surprises, there

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Speaker 6: is it possible. Well, I shouldn't even ask what is

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Speaker 6: your prediction on the immunity case, because I know we

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Speaker 6: should talk about this later. I know we'll have a

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Speaker 6: bigger episode on it. But if on the top of

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Speaker 6: your head today, if you could predict how this court

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Speaker 6: might rule in this community.

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Speaker 5: Case, what do you predict?

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Speaker 3: Six? Three?

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Speaker 5: So you think that it will go right down party lines?

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Speaker 5: The three I do?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'll say, maybe maybe, maybe five

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Speaker 1: four to your point around John Roberts. And the only

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Speaker 1: reason why is because he's not Trump appointed. I think

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Speaker 1: all of the Trump appointees are out there, they're like

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Speaker 1: diehard Trump supporters. They're gonna always side with him, and

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Speaker 1: he got three appointments. Who am I missing Alito? And

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Speaker 1: I think Alito, No, I'm not, I'm missing what's his name?

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Speaker 5: There's Thomas Tondo.

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Speaker 1: I'm missing. I'm missing I'm missing Tom. I'm missing Thomas.

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Speaker 1: He's always gonna be with Trump because his wife basically,

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Speaker 1: she don't have to.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. She don't have to.

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Speaker 1: He don't have to recuse himself because he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to because the same rules don't apply, which is a

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Speaker 1: whole We should that should be a mine? Why should

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Speaker 1: why should there be lifetime appointments?

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Speaker 3: Like should there be?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so will we talk about that today or no?

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Speaker 5: You just saying in the future.

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Speaker 3: I think we should ask the viewers what they think.

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Speaker 3: But I do like the idea. Maybe not right now

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Speaker 3: because we still got a whole budget to get into.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into the budget, we had a

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Speaker 1: question about this too, because we know this man, say

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Speaker 1: he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue.

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Speaker 3: We don't know how the judges are going to rule.

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Speaker 3: Part of this is if you crazy, should you get

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Speaker 3: your head check? What's the question to say? Let's hear it.

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Speaker 7: My name is Bruno Compost from Los Angeles, California. My

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Speaker 7: question is, why is it so much harder to get

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Speaker 7: a job as a ups driver than it is to

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Speaker 7: become president of the United States. I know that if

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Speaker 7: I went to apply somewhere for a job, if I

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Speaker 7: had ninety one indictments and I had a long list

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Speaker 7: of trials coming up, I know for a fact I

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Speaker 7: wouldn't be hired. So how does a man get to

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Speaker 7: run this country with so many indictments, so many trials

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Speaker 7: coming up, evidence that he's a racist in citing a riot.

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Speaker 7: I just don't understand. Please help me. I love you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I love you friend, Bruno, Bruno, you guys. Please let

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Speaker 1: me get at this. Let me tell you sorry, go

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 5: People on the lease right me tell.

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Speaker 1: You something I have been saying this. I used to

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Speaker 1: get reprimanded on air for this. I think if attorneys

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Speaker 1: have to do uh, we have to. We have to

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Speaker 1: we have to abide by the rules of professional conduct.

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Speaker 1: We have to pass a professional responsibility exam, the npr E.

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Speaker 1: We have to ensure that we aren't nuts to be

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Speaker 1: able to practice law. There are folks, you have to

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Speaker 1: do some of some mental evaluations to do certain jobs

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Speaker 1: in this country. I think some of it should apply

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Speaker 1: even more to law enforcement. You have to do some

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Speaker 1: of this to get a clearance, a security clearance. I

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Speaker 1: had to do so much to get a security clearance.

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Speaker 3: When I worked on the Homeland Security Committee. Are you

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Speaker 3: kidding me? There are touching not just top secret. You

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Speaker 3: guys are gonna laugh.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't even want to get the SCI clearance

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Speaker 1: that's the one that goes through the CIA for approval,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I was raised by an activists.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm good on this.

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Speaker 5: I'm scared EI.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But it's the clearance you have to get to go

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Speaker 1: through the security clearance through the CIA, CIA proof.

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Speaker 3: It's the highest security clearance you can get as a

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Speaker 3: staffer on the Hill.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I wouldn't do that one. I only got my

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Speaker 1: TS top secret clearance. Now Donald Trump is touching documents

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Speaker 1: that are impacting lives, like international classified information. He don't

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Speaker 1: have to get his hand check. Like, please tell me

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Speaker 1: how you're justifying this. We are paying you with our

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Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars. We are we have to actually ensure your

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Speaker 1: health care. You're covered by everything that we do in

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Speaker 1: this land. But you don't have to get your head check.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't just be a physical it should be a

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Speaker 1: mental health evaluation every single year. I actually think that

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Speaker 1: it should apply to members of Congress too. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: would have missed out on George Santos. It's as he

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Speaker 1: ready to run again by the way he walked around

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Speaker 1: the house for they're ready to change the rules. It

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Speaker 1: was like, you know what what we said, we wanted

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Speaker 1: to allow members to be able to roam these floors

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Speaker 1: after they get removed. They were like, what is that,

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Speaker 1: How does that really apply to somebody was expelled? Yo, Well, like,

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Speaker 1: this is something that we have to address. Is crazy,

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Speaker 1: It is crazy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, thank you Angela for breaking down

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Speaker 6: because so many people don't understand how this works, especially

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Speaker 6: on Capitol Hill. That's why I such a privilege to

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Speaker 6: have you break these things down since you worked there

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Speaker 6: for so long. I just want to remind people. In

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Speaker 6: twenty seventeen, I believe it was one day after dismissing

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Speaker 6: James Comy, who was the head of the FBI at

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Speaker 6: that point, Donald Trump was in the Oval office with

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Speaker 6: two members of an adversarial government, two members of the

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Speaker 6: Russian government. He was there with the Russian Foreign Minister

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Speaker 6: Lavrov Sergey Lavrov and UH ambassador Sergey Kisliak. He had

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Speaker 6: them in the Oval office. The conclusion that came out

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Speaker 6: of that was that he actually revealed highly classified information

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Speaker 6: to two members of a foreign government with whom we

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Speaker 6: have a very adversarial relationship. I just talked about President

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Speaker 6: Putin literally holding hands with President She on the world stage,

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Speaker 6: and this man is up for re election with the

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Speaker 6: support of at least seventy five million people.

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Speaker 3: This is where you know.

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Speaker 6: It is not about patriotism. It is not about political divides.

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Speaker 6: There are people who could literally see this country turn

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Speaker 6: to ashes before they saw someone who looked like us

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Speaker 6: running it.

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Speaker 5: That is what this is about. This is not patriotism.

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Speaker 6: These are members of a cult who is willing to

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Speaker 6: proven trader.

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Speaker 5: That should tell you where we are in this country.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say, having gone through a process of having

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Speaker 2: to fight back and beat back lies through an indictment

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Speaker 2: as a regular average citizen who finds themselves on the

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Speaker 2: other side of that system off of an accusation, having

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Speaker 2: banks closed their doors on you, having credit cards canceled

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Speaker 2: on you, having your your passport stripped from you, having

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Speaker 2: DS a global entry, all the other stuff, all that's

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Speaker 2: stripped away from you off of an accusation. So before

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Speaker 2: you ever get to a guilty or innocence, someone's claim

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Speaker 2: against you. And it just goes to show how the

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Speaker 2: justice system is, which is supposed to be blind, and

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to apply to all of us the same way.

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Speaker 2: That that's a hoax, that if you're powerful enough, if

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Speaker 2: you are connected enough, if you're Donald Trump, and and

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Speaker 2: and and and that crew, the law doesn't work the

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Speaker 2: same way for you. And in his case, with all

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Speaker 2: of the delay delays that we're seeing in these four

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Speaker 2: cases that are before him, this man may even be

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Speaker 2: able to escape justice in some ways. He has it

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Speaker 2: so many other points in his life, and we're only

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Speaker 2: now seeing the reckoning, And unfortunately the reckoning only he

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Speaker 2: seems to be happening in the civil cases, but in

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Speaker 2: the criminal cases where I think this man is most liable,

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Speaker 2: most responsible, and not because I'm just guessing at it,

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Speaker 2: but because we all laid witness to many of the

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Speaker 2: crimes that he committed out loud, we saw them with

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Speaker 2: our own eyes. Yet there's a strong possibility that none

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Speaker 2: of these cases is going to get tried prior to

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Speaker 2: the election, and if you were to stand the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to be re elected, he could summarily dismiss and suspend

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Speaker 2: with two of the cases that have the greatest consequences

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Speaker 2: attached to them. And so, you know, I take the question, Bruno,

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Speaker 2: and I understand it. I'm simply saying that this is

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Speaker 2: a reconfirmation that all men are equal, doesn't mean all

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Speaker 2: men are equal.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Bruno for that question.

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Speaker 3: While we love that question. We absolutely love that question.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, We're going to get to this break

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Speaker 1: after that hot headed moment about getting some mental some

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Speaker 1: folks with some sense in office.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 10: My name is Monte White, originally from Inkster, Michigan. What

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Speaker 10: up though? Now from Maryland and not the following question.

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Speaker 10: In the last twelve hours, we've seen Trump unofficially win

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Speaker 10: the Republican nomination for president. We've seen Mitch McConnell's spinelessly

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Speaker 10: throwa is support behind Trump despite the insults and barbs

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Speaker 10: they thrown at each other. And we've seen Nicki Hayley

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Speaker 10: suspend her campaign without supporting anybody but like this shall

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Speaker 10: fall in line like the rest of the Republicans already

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Speaker 10: have so solely, but surely, it seems like the Republican

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Speaker 10: Party is slowly beginning to coalesce around Trump. Some influential

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Speaker 10: Democrats have been leading and supporting symbolic demonstrations like voting

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Speaker 10: uncommitted at the Democratic primaries to influence President Biden to

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Speaker 10: act in the Palestine Israel crisis. So my question for

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Speaker 10: you is, do you believe that Democrats as a whole

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Speaker 10: will now begin to coalesce around the president, knowing that

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Speaker 10: Trump is unofficially officially the Republican nominee or will these

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Speaker 10: demonstrations continue, and if they do, is there a point

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Speaker 10: where will be too late for Democrats to throw their

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Speaker 10: support behind President Biden to any real meaningful effect.

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Speaker 3: Nice, heay, welcome home, Antie. We appreciate your question.

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Speaker 1: I love this, y'all because we honestly get a number

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Speaker 1: of questions every week about it's lesser two evils, or

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Speaker 1: you know, how are Biden and Trump different? And it

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Speaker 1: feels almost like we're it's like Groundhog's Day, like we

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Speaker 1: haven't are having to keep answering. I am not disparaging

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Speaker 1: the question or I'm just saying that we are answering

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Speaker 1: this a lot, and so because we're answering a lot,

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Speaker 1: it must mean that people still need to understand the difference.

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Speaker 1: That is something that we all understand. We sometimes can

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Speaker 1: get wonkish. Tiffanyil regularly be like, what's that acronym mean?

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Speaker 1: I just said something about a SCI clearance and she's like,

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Speaker 1: what is that? I'm like, I don't know. It's a

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Speaker 1: sensitive compartmentalized information.

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Speaker 3: I had to look it up by it.

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Speaker 1: But the point is like, we are regularly in this,

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Speaker 1: but because this is the work that we do and

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Speaker 1: have done for many, many years, we do get into

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Speaker 1: spaces where we're like, oh, this is obvious or that's obvious,

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Speaker 1: that it isn't necessarily so. So today what we're doing,

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Speaker 1: hopefully Monty and answering your question as well as some

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Speaker 1: of the others, is showing what some of those distinctions are.

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Speaker 1: Now that we have well, I think we've been knowing

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Speaker 1: who are nominees would be in the respective parties for

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Speaker 1: the general. We know very clearly now as per the

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Speaker 1: numbers that they are going to advance to the General

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Speaker 1: so long as their party conventions say the same. We

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that we're drawing a contrast and

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Speaker 1: that it's really clear with Biden's release of Silanda's budget

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Speaker 1: this past Tuesday, as well as being able to reflect

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Speaker 1: on someone who was a president lost reelection is now

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Speaker 1: so it's now eligible to run for another another four

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Speaker 1: year term. What are the biggest distinctions. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that I wanted to call attention to is Congressman

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Speaker 1: Leeber used to say, who is my boss on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill and the chair of the CBC when I worked there.

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Speaker 1: The Congressional Black Caucus still present in what districts Missouri

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Speaker 1: for but sometimes you know, are redistricting those Yeah, those

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Speaker 1: numbers can change Missouri. Yes, Kansas City and a Pathety

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Speaker 1: mayor and a former Kansas City mayor, yeah, and a

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Speaker 1: former HOOT official. Anyway, we have run through these people's

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Speaker 1: whole resumes. But he says the measure of a person

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Speaker 1: or a nation's heart can be divulged by examining the

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Speaker 1: details of a budget they craft. And because he's a pastor,

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Speaker 1: tip you know, he said based on Matthew six twenty one,

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Speaker 1: So right, He's like, I got a biblical.

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Speaker 3: Basis for this, but I think it's so true.

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Speaker 1: Even Michael Lomax, who ran the UNCF, used to say

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Speaker 1: that you it's not about the numbers in the budget, really,

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Speaker 1: you can really determine where priorities lie. And speaking of lies,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting that Donald Trump would utilize the budget and

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Speaker 1: say that he's doing these grandiose things for black people,

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Speaker 1: because what in the hell do we have to lose

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Speaker 1: in these budget documents and be lying, he would just

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Speaker 1: be te a whole story like I've done more for

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Speaker 1: HBCUs than any president in history. It has been fact

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Speaker 1: checked by PolitiFact over and over again.

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Speaker 3: That is not a thing.

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Speaker 1: But I think the truth of it is there are

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Speaker 1: some places where some of these budgets kind of intersect.

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Speaker 1: The whole purpose of this is every year the sitting

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Speaker 1: president goes before Congress, they give the State of the

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Speaker 1: Union address. In that State of the Union, they list

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Speaker 1: their key priorities kind of like a road map like

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Speaker 1: we do at the beginning of the show, of what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do this year, what they're asking Congress

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Speaker 1: to join them in meeting the needs of the American people.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I want to do.

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Speaker 1: Shortly thereafter, there's a budget proposal that is hundreds of

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Speaker 1: pages that is broken up by department, you know, Department

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Speaker 1: of Interior, Agriculture Justice HUD, which is Housing in Urban

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Speaker 1: development over like, through and through, as well as some

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Speaker 1: of the agencies like the Minority Business Development Agency, which

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Speaker 1: they just decided should be the white Minority Business Development Agency.

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Speaker 1: But that's the court case for another day. So you

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Speaker 1: see all of these priorities that are presented with numbers

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Speaker 1: attached to them, from PEIL grants to SNAP to affordable

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Speaker 1: housing to a farmer debt relief, and you see what

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Speaker 1: they're what presidents, what they would use as pay force?

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Speaker 1: How are they going to pay for these initiatives for

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Speaker 1: these projects? The pay force normally come from taxes, and

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Speaker 1: we see in this administration how they plan to use

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Speaker 1: taxing the rich to pay for some of the programs

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Speaker 1: because a number of federal programs had to be cut

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Speaker 1: under the Trump administration because of the number of tax

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Speaker 1: cuts and credits that were given to the rich. So

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Speaker 1: that said, I want to allow and move over it

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Speaker 1: because I've been talking for five minutes. Sorry, y'all, I

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Speaker 1: want to share this stage with my co hosts because

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Speaker 1: I just kissed the mic because I think it's so

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Speaker 1: important for you guys to talk about some of the priorities.

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Speaker 1: You've seen some of the things where you're like, this

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Speaker 1: is good, but I think we need to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: prioritizing this in a different way. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that frustrates me is the attention to the border and

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Speaker 1: how much money they want to spend on the border.

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Speaker 1: On a bipartisan level, this is an issue that goes

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Speaker 1: far exceeds Donald Trump and Joe Biden's administrations. But I

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Speaker 1: want you guys to talk about some of the things

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Speaker 1: that you've seen in the budget documents and what you

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Speaker 1: hope to see.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 6: Can I just hop in and I hate to be

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Speaker 6: a wet blanket here, but I just want our viewers

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Speaker 6: to understand how this process works, and one this budget,

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Speaker 6: like most presidential budgets, has very little chance of becoming law.

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Speaker 6: What this does instead, to Angela's point, is post State

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Speaker 6: of the Union address. It's saying here's where my priorities lie.

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Speaker 6: So I appreciate you landing that out for us.

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Speaker 5: Angela. I have more questions than I do answers here.

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Speaker 6: Before I kick it to you, Andrew, because I don't

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Speaker 6: have a lot to say about the budget itself.

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Speaker 5: I will tell you.

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Speaker 6: When we were Angela and Andrew and I were talking

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Speaker 6: about this before we started recording. One thing that I

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Speaker 6: care because Angela said, I want you awt to you know,

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Speaker 6: look at this budget and see you know what matters

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Speaker 6: to you. And I read probably eight papers every day

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Speaker 6: before the sun comes up. I don't watch a lot

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Speaker 6: of cable news. I feel better for having I feel

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Speaker 6: smarter for having read things. And what I have not

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Speaker 6: read even when I google it is what is in

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Speaker 6: this in President Biden's budget. When it comes to SNAP benefits,

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Speaker 6: Snap is food assistance. It's a food assistance program. I

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Speaker 6: it's not because it's not in there. It is because

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Speaker 6: people have not written about it. What that says to

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Speaker 6: me is the Beltway press is incestuous, and it is

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Speaker 6: often talking to each other, for each other and about

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Speaker 6: each other. That creates a disconnect with voters who are

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Speaker 6: out there, who are not waking up looking at CNBC

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Speaker 6: every day or reading the op ed pages of the

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Speaker 6: Journal or Financial Times. They are figuring out how to struggle.

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Speaker 6: And this is why, to Angelo's point, they do not

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Speaker 6: feel connected with this budget. They don't always understand what

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Speaker 6: the president has instituted in a budget that Congress has

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Speaker 6: to vote on and pass, which rarely happens, and how

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Speaker 6: it impacts their everyday life, the fact that no one

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Speaker 6: has thought about, well, there are millions of people who

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Speaker 6: receive snap benefits? How does this budget impact them so much?

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Speaker 6: That it is not written about anywhere since the State

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Speaker 6: of the Union. I found that quite telling. That's what

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Speaker 6: I care about. I have members in my family who

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Speaker 6: get SNAP benefits. When I was younger, I you know,

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Speaker 6: we got snap benefits called welfare at the time. If

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Speaker 6: you old enough like we are, you remember government cheese.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: Andrew's raising his hand and he got it too, so

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Speaker 6: we all understand that. So that is the key thing

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Speaker 6: that I care about. And unfortunately I did not find that,

876
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 6: and I'm not as smart as Angela and Andrew to

877
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 6: comb through hundreds of pages of it.

878
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 5: Andrew, I want to hear your priorities.

879
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 6: But my question to you is, and angel because you

880
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 6: worked on Capitol Hill, and I told Angela I was

881
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 6: going to ask this question earlier because these guys have

882
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 6: more government experience than I do. The President's budget is

883
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 6: one part of it. Then Congress has to vote on it,

884
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 6: and then the money is issued to states. If you

885
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 6: have a Republican governor, and I'm using Mississippi as an example,

886
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 6: Governor Tate Reeves, who gets this big pot of money, Yeah,

887
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 6: he gets to decide where it goes. So in a

888
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 6: state like Mississippi where you have a city like Jackson, Mississippi,

889
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 6: where they literally had no clean drinking water and it's

890
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 6: still a very flimsy drinking water system in place, Now

891
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 6: that's infrastructure money that Tate Reeves gets to say, I'm

892
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 6: gonna put this money elsewhere and not in the blackest

893
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 6: part of my state. Andrew, do I have that correct?

894
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 6: And that's how it goes. And because you were a

895
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 6: mayor running for governor, how does that money trickle to

896
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 6: the governor? And then how does the governor trickle that

897
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: money to you?

898
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: Yeah? Your point as well, taking Tiffany, and the truth

899
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: is is a lot of us get it confused, and

900
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: for good reason because for us, look, we put money

901
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: in through taxes and we hear about all the money

902
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: being generated, but we get real lost in the process

903
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: when that stuff so it's to come back down to us.

904
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: And so it's important to know how, and it's really

905
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: as a mayor. It was one of my biggest criticisms

906
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: about the budgeting process. I brought it up numerous times

907
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: and visits to the White House and talking to at

908
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: that time Obama administration officials and so on. It's a big,

909
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: big issue for a lot of us at the local

910
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: level that we can have problems. That's in Jackson, Mississippi

911
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: and our very own communities. But unfortunately, the way Washington,

912
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: DC Congress sends down the money is they send the

913
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: money down to the states that then be distributed by

914
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: the states into local governments underneath their jurisdiction. Well, when

915
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: those grants come to the states, they largely come as

916
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: what we know as block grants, which is a category

917
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: of money safe for housing and it's intended to impact

918
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: housing for your entire state. But what happens is when

919
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: it gets to the state level, the state then decides,

920
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: based off of its priorities, where exactly then they want

921
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 2: this money to go at what levels and so on

922
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: and so forth. As it also include there's also, by

923
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: the way, something called categorical grants. These are really the

924
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: two forms of granting that local governments and states kind

925
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Speaker 2: of deal with. Categorical is a very specific, detailed place

926
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Speaker 2: that you would like money to go within this category.

927
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Speaker 2: The government doesn't send enough of those down. They largely

928
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: like to deal with block because it's a big sum

929
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: of money that can then labor later to be decided

930
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: on its distribution at the local level. Well, in a

931
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Speaker 2: state like mine, where you got a governor, Republican governor

932
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Speaker 2: who loves to take punitive measures against what we call

933
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: blue cities inside of red states and those are more

934
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: democratically voting cities that likely didn't vote for him, is

935
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: he likes to penalize withhold redirect resources to more friendly

936
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: and more conservative parts of the state. And I'm willing

937
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: to bet that that attitude is true and more states

938
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Speaker 2: with more governors than we'll ever hear admitted by those

939
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Speaker 2: by those respective governors.

940
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Speaker 6: To make a quick question here, Andrew, yeah, yeah, because

941
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Speaker 6: I'm just making this connection that because the blue states

942
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 6: pay more into the system, but red states benefit more,

943
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Speaker 6: do I have.

944
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 2: Any And then once you become once you get into

945
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: the red state, then the red cities or the red

946
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: counties tend to end up absorbing more of their share

947
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: of the pot than what they contribute into the pot.

948
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 5: And who lives in those blue spots.

949
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: You know who, you know who who you know who's where.

950
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: That's for damn sure. And then the one very clear

951
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: example I'd like to give for folks, because many of

952
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: us no benefited no about Obamacare or the Affordable Healthcare Act, Well,

953
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: there was also the expansion of Medicaid and Medicaid that

954
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: was included as part of how it was that the

955
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: president was one to get health care into the hands

956
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: of the people who need it the most. This is

957
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: a huge issue for most Americans who are coming out

958
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: of pocket, you know, with money that they don't have

959
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: just to ensure to their livelihood. Well, if you're in

960
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Speaker 2: a state like mine, Florida, guess who didn't expand medicaid

961
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: in the state. It was the state of Florida and

962
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: many other red states. And so there's a Federal Health

963
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: Care Act where the federal government says, we're going to

964
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: pay for one hundred percent of the cost of expansion

965
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Speaker 2: of this program, and then after a number of years,

966
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: we'll pay ninety percent and you state of filling the

967
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: blank state of Florida, you'll pay ten percent. So we

968
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: had money that was free money coming to us from

969
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: the federal government that never got into the hands of

970
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: the people that it was intended because the governors decided

971
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: that they would not extend, expand those programs to include

972
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: those people. That's very clear example of federal money coming

973
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: down to a state to of a specific purpose and

974
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: a governor and a government deciding that money ain't getting there,

975
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: not at all. In fact, we won't even take it.

976
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: You hold on to it and go give it to

977
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody else but us. I.

978
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really appreciate that breakdown. I think it's so important. Andrew,

979
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: like we talk about all the time, we all have

980
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: approached our political careers in different facets, and state and

981
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: local is something that I don't know well at all,

982
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: Like it is a complete blind spot. So I deeply

983
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: appreciate that. And even around snap TIF, I was like,

984
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: how is there nothing in here? I was going back

985
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: through all the articles and that was like, there's nothing

986
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: on snap We went back through, there's one hundred and

987
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: eighty eight pages for this year's budget or for twenty five.

988
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: Me and Lolo our researcher. Shout out to Lolo and

989
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: Nick who's always keeping us sometimes. I was I was like, well,

990
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: I just five me anyway, But Lolo is saying she

991
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: couldn't find anything. And what they did in this budget

992
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: is they say, if you want to see a change

993
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: in SNAP, you got to pass you got to reauthorize

994
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: the Farm Bill. And so there's that Pece. I don't

995
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: know why they didn't break that out in this budget.

996
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: And that's a great question we can ask the administration.

997
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'd be happy to answer.

998
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: Well for not even posing that, you know, but well,

999
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 5: here we are, here, we are, we have.

1000
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: We want to know what your proposers as well, because

1001
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: you count what counts.

1002
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's their very true.

1003
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: Yes, well, we're asking the question. We just want to

1004
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: know what is the increase for SNAP benefits. We know

1005
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: it is going to be much different than what Donald

1006
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Trump did, which was please pull that number. I think

1007
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: it was an eighty five million dollar cut in SNAP. Lolo,

1008
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: please fact check. Did I say cut?

1009
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, Angela, you said it just

1010
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 5: a million.

1011
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure eighty five million dollars

1012
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: and cuts to SNAP, Lolo, if you can fact check

1013
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: me on that.

1014
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 3: But I wanted to say to do a tiffany really quick.

1015
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm calling this doing a Tiffany, SNAP is the supplemental

1016
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: Nutrition Assistance program, So I want to make sure we're

1017
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: clear on that.

1018
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: Tiff said, food stamps, that's a very similar thing. It

1019
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: is support.

1020
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: So based on what Lolo found, Donald Trump's cuts to

1021
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: SNAP benefits again food stamps was slashing that by fifteen

1022
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: billion dollars, along with reductions in federal crop insurance subsidies.

1023
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: But for some reason, farmers has thought that he was

1024
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: on their side.

1025
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: He is not. Nationwide, Andrew, go ahead with the video,

1026
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: I know you were going to.

1027
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, can I get fact check something really quickly?

1028
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 6: This is according because I like to site facts and

1029
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 6: sources so people know it's not us saying this. This

1030
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 6: is according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

1031
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 6: Donald Trump's twenty twenty one budget proposes to cut the

1032
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 6: SNAP benefits by more than one hundred and eighty billion

1033
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 6: dollars nearly thirty percent over the next ten years by

1034
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 6: radically restructuring how benefits are delivered, taking SNAP away from

1035
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 6: millions of adults who are not working more than twenty

1036
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 6: hours per week. During the Trump administration, they considerably reduced this.

1037
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 6: Not only they reduced it, they started applying more restrictions

1038
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 6: on who could get SNAP benefits, which made it like

1039
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 6: almost impossible for people. And I'll just say to somebody

1040
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 6: in my family who gets SNAP benefits, it's not enough.

1041
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 6: I have to supplement that food income every single month.

1042
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 6: They expect you to live off two hundred dollars a

1043
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 6: month sometimes, and you have to consider it's not just food.

1044
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 6: It is deodorant, it is toothpaste, it's toilet paper, paper,

1045
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 6: basic needs for life.

1046
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 5: This is what snapcover.

1047
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, Andrew, I'll just say, Angela, you were going in

1048
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: the direction with your comments that that farmers thought that

1049
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: Republicans loved them and that the president would love them.

1050
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: But you saw the cut that was proposed that in

1051
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: that department's budget. And I'll tell you, the farmers are

1052
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: still getting their subsidies, in fact, are getting enhanced subsidies.

1053
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: What was what cover was from that budget. The cut

1054
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 2: that we see represented from the Trump administration and Agriculture

1055
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: has to do with the fact that SNAP benefits, food

1056
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: subsidy programs, after school fool lunches, during school lunches, weekend

1057
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: feeding programs, all of that is caught up in the

1058
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: budget for agriculture. Agriculture isn't sitting inside housing in urban development.

1059
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: Those food subsidy programs and benefits are within that department's budget.

1060
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: And so when we see cuts to them and you think, oh, well,

1061
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: they're trying, you know, I thought he was on the

1062
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: side of the big farmers, and of this he is.

1063
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: Those subsidies for those farmers are still there. What is

1064
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: gone is the subsidies for working people, poor families who

1065
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: depend on those services in order to eat, in order

1066
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 2: to live. When we when we What is great about

1067
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: this video, and I'm so glad that we're getting to

1068
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: talk a bit about the budget, is that for those

1069
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: who are deluded into believing that this that that Donald

1070
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: Trump in any way offers something to our states, to

1071
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: our communities, to our households, to us as individuals in

1072
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: line with being greater than what you have received under

1073
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: Democrat administrations, and I'll be more specific under Joe Biden,

1074
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: just look at the Just look at where they are

1075
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: proposing to take away in order to give. And what

1076
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: you will notice in Trump's budget is that all the

1077
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: give was to the wealthiest one percent, and it was

1078
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: paid for because the federal government didn't have the money

1079
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: to do it. In future years. It is paid for

1080
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: by taking away from affordable housing, from food subsidy programs,

1081
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: from child assistance programs, from the child tax credit, from

1082
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: the earned income tax credit, all those things get slashed,

1083
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: while he then puts money into the bank accounts of

1084
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: the wealthiest one percent, the people who needed the least.

1085
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: And so I love if we get an opportunity, either

1086
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: in poster or now, to just play that so that

1087
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: viewers who are seeing this get to see it.

1088
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 3: We need to play it because there's some parts of

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Speaker 3: this that you need to read.

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Speaker 1: One other flag for you, all regarding snap is during

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration, they also proposeed the elimination of food

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Speaker 1: stamps for seven hundred thousand people. And fortunately that's where

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Speaker 1: the judicial system was on our side and they prevented

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Speaker 1: the Donald Trump administration for implementing that rule. So Andrew,

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Speaker 1: at this point, you want to go ahead show people

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Speaker 1: how the budget works. And then I do still have

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Speaker 1: one thing I want to get to on HBCUs.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I'll read them as quickly as bussibly.

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Speaker 5: This is all according to now this the outlet.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen point six billion he proposes for customs in butter

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Speaker 2: protection an increase of seven percent, by the way, two

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Speaker 2: billion for the wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for.

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Speaker 2: Y'all remember that nine point nine billion for immigration and

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Speaker 2: Customs enforcement, an increase of twenty three percent over their

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Speaker 2: previous budget. What one trillion for infrastructure spending up virten years,

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Speaker 2: including two hundred billion but nationally significant projects. And the

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Speaker 2: cuts to pay for that budget were four hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty five billion dollars for medicare providers, seven hundred billion

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Speaker 2: in cuts to Medicaid over the next decade, workforce requirements,

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Speaker 2: food stamps, housing assistants came with new requirements, seventy billion

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Speaker 2: in cuts to federal disability insurance, one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: billion dollars cutting student loan forgiveness. The budget calls for

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Speaker 2: extending Trump's tax cuts, you know, the ones to the

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Speaker 2: top one percent till twenty twenty three, at the cost

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Speaker 2: of one point four trillion dollars. He proposed to pay

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Speaker 2: for that trillion plus with a negative nine percent negative

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Speaker 2: nine percent down in that from for the Department of Agriculture,

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Speaker 2: negative eight percent down. So it moved quickly because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of information that when you're dealing with the budgets,

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Speaker 2: the size of the United States, right. But the beauty

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Speaker 2: is is for folks who want to say Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: gave us this, and I got more money, and I

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Speaker 2: got a check in the mail, and I got a

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Speaker 2: this that had his name on it. The real, the truth,

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Speaker 2: the what really went down is what is being reflected here,

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Speaker 2: which is that all those things that you think he

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Speaker 2: did for us, in fact, he was taking away right

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Speaker 2: before our eyes. The man is a trickster, that's all

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Well, and the point that he made that you that

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Speaker 6: we're going really fast, so wludos to you, Andrew. But

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Speaker 6: he cut the CDC budget by No. Nine percent in

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Speaker 6: February of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: We know what happened. In March of twenty twenty, there

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Speaker 5: was a global pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Angela.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious about your because I know this is something

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Speaker 6: that was really important to you about saying that the

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Speaker 6: budget reflects priorities.

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Speaker 5: One thing when you were explaining to me.

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Speaker 6: Earlier is that you worked on Capitol Hill for a

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Speaker 6: number of years executive director of the Congressional Black Caucus,

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Speaker 6: and you were explaining to me that staffers would be

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Speaker 6: given the responsibility of looking at the budget, taking a

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Speaker 6: section and looking at it and explaining.

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Speaker 5: To the member. So I'm keenly curious to hear how

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Speaker 5: you feel about this budget.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yes.

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Speaker 1: I worked on the Homeland Security Committee, and every committee

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Speaker 1: staff goes and takes their the Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 1: for example, for US, and we combed through it to

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Speaker 1: see if it's in alignment with our chair or the

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Speaker 1: ranking member, if you're not in the majority of the committee.

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Speaker 1: And I think for me, the frustration I have is

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Speaker 1: the heightened priority to securing the border when there are

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Speaker 1: so many deep needs in the community.

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Speaker 3: TIF and Andrew y'all went in deep.

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Speaker 1: About snap, I mean alone the other priorities for kids

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Speaker 1: in K through twelve HBCUs, which is a place I

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Speaker 1: think that there's a highlight we can actually talk about

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Speaker 1: in a clear distinction we can draw. You know, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has been has been known to say that he

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Speaker 1: saved HBCUs when President Obama wouldn't give them long term funding,

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Speaker 1: which is preposterous. And one of the things I do

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Speaker 1: want to do is just take a moment to highlight

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Speaker 1: just a couple of points in this year's budget from

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Speaker 1: the Biden Administration for institutional capacity alone, not just for

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Speaker 1: HBCUs but also other minority serving institutions. There is a

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Speaker 1: proposal of three hundred and twenty nine million more than

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Speaker 1: where levels currently are for institutional that's for institutional capacity

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Speaker 1: of those schools. Additionally, for R and D that's research

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Speaker 1: and development, they proposed another one hundred million, and for

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Speaker 1: STEM education at these schools one point four billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I think is a highlight, because

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Speaker 1: we have been talking about people in our communities in need,

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Speaker 1: they are offering or proposing. I have to make sure

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Speaker 1: I say that because even with Trump's budget is a proposal.

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Speaker 1: Those things aren't automatically appropriated, which is another important word.

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Speaker 3: This is authorization.

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Speaker 1: There's authorization language, there are bills that propose these priorities,

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Speaker 1: and then there are bills that fund these priorities. So

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Speaker 1: it's not appropriated yet. But they offer two years propose

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Speaker 1: I keep saying, offer two years of subsidized tuition at

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Speaker 1: HBCUs for families earning one hundred and twenty five thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars or less. That is fantastic, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: great for them because they've been very consistent in providing

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Speaker 1: student relief for tuition related payments. We've seen it with

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Speaker 1: student loan debt relief and now here with subsidized tuition.

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Speaker 1: Of course, there's pail grants, there's a proposed increase in

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Speaker 1: pal and that kind of thing. But yeah, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to get into this because I think we often talk

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Speaker 1: about policy as.

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Speaker 3: Like this big, like this high floaty concept.

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Speaker 1: But there's a clear way to determine if people are

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Speaker 1: supporting priorities that you're aligned with or not, and that

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Speaker 1: is looking at what they've proposed in the budget, going

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Speaker 1: beyond what they stayed in the State of the Union,

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Speaker 1: seeing what each of their cabinet secretaries and those departments

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Speaker 1: they oversee have pushed forward as their proposal recommendations, and

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Speaker 1: how that's different from the administrations that preceded them, and

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Speaker 1: even how it's different from their prior year budget.

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Speaker 2: I just got to say where we're talking tuitions. The

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Speaker 2: Biden budget also proposes a new program to ensure affordable care,

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Speaker 2: affordable childcare, and I y'all know how I am about

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Speaker 2: child Carey.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sixty dads.

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Speaker 2: And to all dads and moms who are struggling with

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Speaker 2: what it means. I mean, you almost feel like you

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Speaker 2: hit the lottery when your kids are out of childcare

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Speaker 2: because they naturally going to a public system where you're

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Speaker 2: not paying is well, it'll catch in the summer, but

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Speaker 2: you're not paying that monthly expense that that that you're

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Speaker 2: so used to. So let me just finish that point,

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Speaker 2: which is a program to us. You're investing four hundred

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Speaker 2: billion dollars over the next ten years to cap the

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Speaker 2: costs for families and expand childcare subsidies and tax credits

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Speaker 2: for those businesses. And the reason why, like I said,

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Speaker 2: during the pandemic, they increased that amount threefold. They went

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Speaker 2: from three hundred dollars with nobody takes a child and

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Speaker 2: care for them for a month outside of their parents

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Speaker 2: care for three hundred dollars a month. Nobody's doing that, okay,

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Speaker 2: So they to take that up to nine hundred dollars,

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Speaker 2: so that for each child, the benefit, the tax benefit

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Speaker 2: that came to us what was it, I think four

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Speaker 2: times a year. They ended up factoring it into sort

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Speaker 2: of waiting for you to file your taxes and get

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Speaker 2: that in one fell swoop. Every four months you were

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Speaker 2: getting to check from the federal government for your as

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Speaker 2: a part of the child tax Credit, so that you

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Speaker 2: didn't have to wait till the end to the beginning

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Speaker 2: of the next year to then reap the benefit of it.

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Speaker 2: That you got to reap the benefit of it every

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Speaker 2: four months because we're paying these expenses every single day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that we're being then reimbursed come the end of

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Speaker 2: the you know, come the next year. I can't underscore

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Speaker 2: enough what it means for families and families with children.

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Speaker 2: How prioritizing families but after they are born, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is such a critical value to this administration. And it

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Speaker 2: shows up here, It shows up in their healthcare proposals,

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Speaker 2: it shows up in the school assistance, and in many

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Speaker 2: of the other programs. This is our money getting returned

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Speaker 2: to us. It's not a gift, unlike what it is

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Speaker 2: for the for the corporate community who is experiencing the

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Speaker 2: tremendous tax breaks under the Trump administration, that isn't money

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Speaker 2: that they've earned. That's our money being then distributed to them.

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Speaker 3: As a case and Andrew on that point.

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Speaker 1: Prior to Donald Trump being in office, corporations were taxed

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Speaker 1: that a rate of thirty five percent. Under Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: they dropped down to twenty one percent, and Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is still not raising them to the levels pre Trump.

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Speaker 1: He's raising them by seven percent to twenty eight percent

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Speaker 1: in this proposed budget. I do want to run this

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Speaker 1: quick clip. I'm speaking of corporations being taxed because Biden

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Speaker 1: is planning to pay for most of this by increasing

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Speaker 1: the taxes of the rich.

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Speaker 9: You know, there are one thousand billionaires in America. You

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Speaker 9: know what the average federal taxes for those billionaires. No,

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Speaker 9: they're making great sacrifices eight point two percent. That's far

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Speaker 9: less than the vast majority of Americans pay. No, billionaires

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Speaker 9: should pay a lower federal tax rate than a teacher,

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Speaker 9: or sanitation worker or a nurse. I propose a minimum

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Speaker 9: tax for billionaires of twenty five percent, just twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: What it's forty percent effectively for.

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Speaker 3: The rest of us.

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Speaker 1: But about that, and they still have it anyway, that's

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Speaker 1: the story for anotherday. But they still have it hired

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Speaker 1: for us. This has been an illuminating conversation. I didn't

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know we were going to do such

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Speaker 1: a deep dive on Snap, But based on the questions

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Speaker 1: that we get every week from our listeners, where we

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Speaker 1: find relief is something that's abundantly important to us all,

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Speaker 1: not just in our community, but especially in our community.

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Speaker 1: We know that when America catches the cold, we might

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Speaker 1: have COVID. We used to say pneumonia, might be COVID,

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Speaker 1: orry punks something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, right after this break, we'll get into one

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Speaker 1: more listener question, and of course we have a Maryland

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Speaker 1: Mo's we update.

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Speaker 8: Hey, David Lampard, this is Tony from Dallas.

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Speaker 4: Question for you.

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Speaker 8: The Biden Harris administration recently released a new campaign video Sensor,

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Speaker 8: around the story of a white female doctor in Texas

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Speaker 8: who left the state due to the abortion whites fan Now,

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Speaker 8: my question to you is, why do you think the

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Speaker 8: same amount of attention is not being focused on black

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Speaker 8: and brown disaffective voters as it pertains to voting rights

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Speaker 8: and affirmative action restoration. Similar stories could be told, such

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Speaker 8: as the current legal battle that's happening with Aaron Simones,

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Speaker 8: the Fearless Fun, and the weaponization of the civil rights

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Speaker 8: at nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 6: That's perfect for you, Angela, because you just you were

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Speaker 6: just with the Fearless Fun this week, I think, but

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Speaker 6: i'd been here, I says frustrations about this all the time,

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Speaker 6: so I'd love for you to jump on that.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, I think we all talk about this both

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Speaker 1: on and we always joke now y'all that we anytime

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Speaker 1: we're in conversation, we're like having a podcast. We were

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Speaker 1: doing it at south By, Like we're standing in the

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Speaker 1: lobby talking and folks, it's so MANI podcasts. I think

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Speaker 1: for me, I definitely share the frustration. It feels like

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Speaker 1: there's not a real sense of urgency around on the

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Speaker 1: equity pieces, around an agenda that ensures our survival and

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Speaker 1: liberation in this country. I do think it's very dangerous

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Speaker 1: for us to start finding ways to separate ourselves from others.

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Speaker 1: There are black women who are more impacted by an

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Speaker 1: abortion ban and reproductive justice issues, and folks who are

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Speaker 1: less fortunate, lower income than white women. And I think

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Speaker 1: if there's a way for us to bring people in

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Speaker 1: by focusing on those issues, we've got to do that.

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Speaker 1: But we can also walk in chew gum at the

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Speaker 1: same damn time. We better figure out how to Arian

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Speaker 1: Simone who shout out to I'm an honorary rattler. I've

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Speaker 1: told you all that.

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Speaker 3: But arian Simone is killing it.

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Speaker 1: I was on a panel with her yesterday, a round

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Speaker 1: table discussion that Congressman Maxine Waters held on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting into it.

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, my bad.

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Speaker 1: I was on a round table discussion yesterday that Congressman

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Speaker 1: Maxine Waters held on Capitol Hill talking about the attacks

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Speaker 1: on DEI at the hands of MAGA Republicans, and Arianne Simone,

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Speaker 1: who is the co founder of the Fearless Fund, sat

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Speaker 1: to my right and tore it down. She talked about

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Speaker 1: the lack of access to venture capital. She talked about

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Speaker 1: the ways in which black women are the highest growing

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Speaker 1: rate of entrepreneurs in this country, but the lowest funded.

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Speaker 1: She talked about the fact that many of us are

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Speaker 1: not in position to fund these companies. They have created

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Speaker 1: such a big din in this through the Fearless Fund,

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Speaker 1: and who came after them, Ed Bloom And if it's

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Speaker 1: not Ed Bloom's America First legal right, Well, we have

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Speaker 1: to be very aware of those attacks and we cannot

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Speaker 1: play footsye with them. Another sister on the panel, God

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Speaker 1: forgive me for not remembering her name. She's a brilliant

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Speaker 1: attorney at the Lawyer's Committee. She said something and I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget it. I even tweeted it yesterday. She said

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Speaker 1: we should not do the opponent's work for them, and

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Speaker 1: what that means even in campaigning, what that means in

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Speaker 1: a state of the union. Address what that means when

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Speaker 1: Kamala is sitting with governors from all over the country

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Speaker 1: and they are doing what she says needed to be done,

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Speaker 1: we need to be telling them take it a step

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Speaker 1: further on equity, be boulder in your anti racist policies,

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Speaker 1: ensure that we're represented in an affirmative action.

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Speaker 3: Make them. Sue you.

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Speaker 1: I got a program for professional professional development program with

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Speaker 1: one hundred students from all over this country.

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Speaker 3: They are black, Sue me. I wish you would bring it.

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Speaker 3: That's the point.

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Speaker 1: So we need a campaign that says that against democracy

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Speaker 1: and all the attacks that we're facing on voting rights,

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Speaker 1: and all the attacks that we're facing on reproductive justice,

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Speaker 1: and all the attacks that we're facing on livable wage,

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Speaker 1: on a federal job guarantee, everything across the board. We

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Speaker 1: need to stand shoulder to shoulder, unashamed and clear, flat footed,

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Speaker 1: ten toes down on business and say here we are

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Speaker 1: deal with it.

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Speaker 3: If you don't like it. Sue us. But it is

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Speaker 3: going to be liberty and justice for all if I

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Speaker 3: got something to do with it. So I rack with

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Speaker 3: this brother's question.

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Speaker 6: I love that, and I love that you were on

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Speaker 6: the hearing yesterday or the roundtable. The round table and

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Speaker 6: that was your mentor, Congressman Maxine Waters. I love that

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Speaker 6: you were participating in that, and forgive me areas and over,

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Speaker 6: I literally have only called her a fearless fund So

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Speaker 6: I'm happy that you actually said she's fearless.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, clearly, So shout out to you for doing your work.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, she's fearless, she's a rat leer, and she's a delta.

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Speaker 2: I did want to mention that Angela one beautifully beautifully

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Speaker 2: stated too. I want to nominate Maxine Waters to be

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Speaker 2: heading up the campaign's outreach funds to outreach efforts to

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Speaker 2: include as the brother evoked in his question around reproductive rights, Angela,

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Speaker 2: your point is well taken. We don't have to choose

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Speaker 2: between all the problem with this is that our fights

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Speaker 2: are so manifold. We got to have battlefront. We got

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Speaker 2: battlefront set up on every part of this landscape. And

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Speaker 2: what the other side wants us to do is negotiate

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Speaker 2: our way out of what we all know we deserve

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Speaker 2: by pitting our issues against each other. And I believe

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Speaker 2: the attorney was getting at, don't do the pont has

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Speaker 2: worked for them is oftentimes and all of us have

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Speaker 2: been in these conversations where we're in rooms with people

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Speaker 2: of like mine and we're finding each other negotiating against

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Speaker 2: ourselves to get what we believe it is going to

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Speaker 2: be acceptable. The other side is just putting out what

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Speaker 2: they want where they want to go, and they're like,

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Speaker 2: I did you just like ange what I'm saying so

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Speaker 2: beautiful point.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say what I want to say beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful point and a and and better than a point.

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Speaker 2: It's a way of being, y'all. It's a way of it.

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Speaker 1: It is embody, that embody, that boldness. Tiff they number

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Speaker 1: five three on a strong good day and tough and.

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Speaker 3: Look she looked at the pictures.

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Speaker 1: They were like they were like, I didn't know Tiffany

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Speaker 1: was so shortific Like I didn't know I was either.

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Speaker 5: Well people sometimes people say, wow, Angela is tall, like you.

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Speaker 1: Were like five uh these five inch platforms she had

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Speaker 1: online and the people, Maybe that's what we need to

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Speaker 1: tell them.

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Speaker 3: Do we need to tell them to put their platforms on?

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Speaker 3: Do we need to tell them to put their platforms

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Speaker 3: on in March for this agenda?

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Speaker 2: But you know, deeper on the insight is deeper than

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Speaker 2: any of us know. This is all part of the

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Speaker 2: vestiges yesday slavery. It's part of the vestiges of a

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Speaker 2: system that isn't designed and built for us, because you're

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Speaker 2: oftentimes often questioning yourself about what's possible, Should we pursue that,

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Speaker 2: should we go with what's you know, more acceptable? Am

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Speaker 2: I in the right place? Am I qualified to be

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Speaker 2: in the right you know?

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Speaker 3: So the legacy is normally like, oh, you can't ask

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Speaker 3: for that. It's not It's not them, it's.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 2: It needs to be a believer. The belief is built

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Speaker 2: out of a lived experience that has taught you time

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Speaker 2: and time again about what you just do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, can can I just say why Arion Simon's work

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Speaker 6: is so important? And this is old data now, But

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Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen, the Center for Global Policy Solutions said

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Speaker 6: discrimination and bias in favor of funders funding companies run

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Speaker 6: by white men cause the United States to lose out

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Speaker 6: on over one point one million minority owned businesses and

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Speaker 6: forfeit more than nine million potential job opportunities.

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Speaker 5: So when you hurt us, you hurt yourself.

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Speaker 3: Hurting yourself, don't hurt yourself like yance.

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Speaker 1: Listen here, Okay, Well on that taking making those women's lemonade,

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Speaker 1: because that is only the thing that Haryan Simone could do.

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Speaker 1: This Women's History Month that I've reclaimed as Black Women's

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Speaker 1: History Month, we are going to talk about another Black

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Speaker 1: women's history maker. Just briefly, as we segue into calls

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Speaker 1: to action, I just want to acknowledge again our dear

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Speaker 1: sister Marilyn Moseby. You all know that she's been raped

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Speaker 1: across the coals in these two criminal trials, both of

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Speaker 1: which she should have never even had to sit for.

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Speaker 1: You all have responded boldly, and it really I mean

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Speaker 1: I was kind of caught on my heels because I

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Speaker 1: was like, well, we would go rev up to the

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Speaker 1: call to action, But y'all are like, now I got

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Speaker 1: a call action for y'all.

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Speaker 3: What we're doing next?

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Speaker 1: We write it down as our friend Jamail will readily

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Speaker 1: respond with anytime there is a call to action.

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Speaker 3: And I think there are two things for you all

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 1: And the immediate one is Maryland has a GoFundMe that

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Speaker 1: folks have set up for her, just helped to pay

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Speaker 1: some of the monthly bills. You all know that she's

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Speaker 1: got two young daughters. We are not the recipients of

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Speaker 1: that fund. We are not holding that fun. There are

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Speaker 1: people out here in this country who do that regularly.

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Speaker 1: You won't ever catch us doing that, no shade, but

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit. And then I would also say

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Speaker 1: that we where's my Oh. The other thing is there

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Speaker 1: will soon be a petition made available. But until that

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Speaker 1: petition is up, there will be a rally on March

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Speaker 1: twenty third in Baltimore, and we'll make sure to get

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Speaker 1: those details up and available for you all in the

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Speaker 1: credits for this show as well as on our Native

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Speaker 1: lamp Pod page, which we hope you are following on

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Speaker 1: social at Native lamppod.

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Speaker 3: And with that, I wanted to refer to my co

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Speaker 3: hosts for their calls to action.

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Speaker 5: Andrew, you go, I'll go last.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm co signing every day on the Maryland

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Speaker 2: most reactions.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yes, yeah, Well, thank you for that, Andrew, and

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Speaker 6: for always sharing your testimony. When we talked talked through

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Speaker 6: this reminding people because, like I say, not too many

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Speaker 6: people square up against the federal government and live to

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Speaker 6: tell about it. So it's just we You went through

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Speaker 6: what you didn't deserve, and Maryland is going through what

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Speaker 6: she didn't deserve. So I love how you're passin committed

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Speaker 6: to that, and I of course echoed that call to action.

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Speaker 6: My last call to action I would say is if

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Speaker 6: you are a fan of Native Land Pod, I would

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Speaker 6: ask you to share this episode. Specifically, Angela had the

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Speaker 6: genius idea to say, let's talk about the budget, and

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Speaker 6: this conversation went a lot of different directions. The most

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Speaker 6: important thing is connecting how the budget impacts your everyday life.

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Speaker 6: A lot of people have that question. So if you

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Speaker 6: know someone who says things like you know, Trump gave

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Speaker 6: more to HBCUs, Angela breaks that down and with facts

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Speaker 6: and references and cite sources on why that's not true.

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Speaker 6: We try to communicate with you in a way that's

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Speaker 6: very digestible and confidence because that's how we talk to

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Speaker 6: each other. And so often the cable news platforms are

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Speaker 6: not considering you the beltwegh media, they are not considering you.

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Speaker 6: We consider you, you center everything we talk about, and

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Speaker 6: so if you have someone in your family who's not

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Speaker 6: clear on things, we try to break these things down,

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Speaker 6: share this episode with them, Post this episode on your

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Speaker 6: social media, tell your friends to listen, talk about it

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Speaker 6: in your group chats. Because Antela was the first person

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Speaker 6: to say this to me, but I think it's so important.

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Speaker 6: None of us here are trying to build individual brands.

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Speaker 6: We are trying to build community. So Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 6: Invite more people into this home because you get knowledge,

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Speaker 6: you get seen, and hopefully, collectively we make sure this

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Speaker 6: here democracy serves us as well.

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Speaker 1: Before we end this show, I just want to remind

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Speaker 1: Angela Raie, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillum. Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: There are two hundred and thirty five.

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Speaker 3: Days until the election.

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