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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: is the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Hi, I'm Rashaan McDonald.

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Speaker 3: I host the weekly money Making Conversation Masterclass show. The

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Speaker 3: interviews and the information that this show provides off for everyone.

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Speaker 3: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 3: start living your own. My next guest is R and

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Speaker 3: B legendary superstar and Grammy now My Naty singer Will

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Speaker 3: Donald my crap brother O Make It SI celebrating impressive

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Speaker 3: thirty five years is in the industry and boasting twenty

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Speaker 3: continues to serve as fan base to his own sophisticated

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Speaker 3: soul record label. Please welcome the money making Conversation Master

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Speaker 2: Will do.

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Speaker 3: I gotta all kind of extra now, you know, my

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Oh, good brother, good Man.

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Speaker 3: I was I was interviewing Ricky Smile this week and

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Speaker 3: he said, Man, And I was telling him I was

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Speaker 2: He said, Man, you know, tell Fred how I go?

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Speaker 2: Fred who? He said, will down it?

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Speaker 4: I said, what down it?

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Speaker 3: Fred?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I said, you know, tell I interview.

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Speaker 3: Will Downand and I didn't know that. So Man, thank

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Speaker 3: you man for being my frat brother man. And because

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Speaker 3: your brand has is what we do. You know, friendship

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Speaker 3: is essential the soul And you're upset and everything you

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Speaker 3: do in the community all thirty five years you've been

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Speaker 3: out there uplifting me with your music and the community

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Speaker 3: again and congratulations, but welcome back to my show because

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Speaker 3: we had a lot of great things to talk about

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Speaker 3: Soul Rising. But before we get to the new CD

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Speaker 3: thirty five years twenty seven CDs, and on my show,

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Speaker 3: I try to allow celebrities or entrepreneurs like you to

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Speaker 3: give parting words or information of how they can do it,

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Speaker 3: because it's never overnight.

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Speaker 2: How did you get started, Well, Donnie in the music business.

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Speaker 5: Well, I started primarily as a background vocalist and in

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Speaker 5: the mid early to mid eighties, so I sang background

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Speaker 5: and my name started circulating around the city, and you know,

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Speaker 4: Well, who is this guy, Who's who's got to sung

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Speaker 5: And then eventually someone kind of said, well, if he's

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Speaker 5: I had an international success initially, and then around my

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's kind of how I got started, and

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Speaker 5: then subsequently I released an album every year or two

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the domestic pictures to US an international

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Speaker 3: because I've heard all this that I met over the years, say, man,

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Speaker 2: You know, the there's a different audist out there.

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Speaker 3: Your music doesn't die as quickly as it dies in

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Speaker 5: It's interesting the Europe and the United Kingdom, the UK,

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Speaker 5: For us, we play a single, we try to beat

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Speaker 5: Over there, they kind of dig more into the project

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Speaker 5: so you know, they're into who played on it, where

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Speaker 4: They still are into that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: And you know when you go over there, that's singing

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Speaker 4: Like they're really into the music.

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Speaker 5: They may not be able to understand, uh specifically you

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Speaker 5: but musically, you know, it crosses all, you know, all anything.

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Speaker 4: You know, people just know music and know how it

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Speaker 3: So so soul Riseing is what we're coming on the

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Speaker 4: How do you.

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Speaker 3: Break your music to the industry now that you know

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Speaker 2: But rap had took over.

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Speaker 3: So where's the industry now when it comes to playing

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny, man, you hit on something or you're

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Speaker 4: Played across the whole country. So it used to be

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Speaker 3: They owned their Coloriate South Carolina station, so that music

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Speaker 2: I want to play this sound, and it hurts and

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Speaker 2: it frustrates you.

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Speaker 3: Why do you overcome that frustration Because a lot of

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Speaker 3: artists out there, they all breaking their music through their

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Speaker 3: YouTube channels, through the internet, but still man.

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Speaker 2: Being able to get your.

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Speaker 2: How do you do how do you do it well?

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Speaker 4: Right. It's a new world. This is the way they

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Speaker 5: Even from you a consumer standpoint, people don't buy the

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Speaker 5: way they used to now. People stream. For an older

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Speaker 5: I put out records now to almost be like a

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Speaker 4: And the majority of what you do financially, as far

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Speaker 3: Now you now you have a weekly show. Now does

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Speaker 3: like twenty stations nationwide. Was that a reason that you said, Look,

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Speaker 3: I got to control my narrative. I got to be

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Speaker 3: your weekly radio show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a weekly radio show called The Wine Down,

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Speaker 5: and I've been doing it since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 5: And it started because in two thousand and seven, two

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Speaker 4: So I was sort of, you know, regulated to being

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Speaker 5: But I wanted people to know that I was still

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Speaker 5: And what I decided to do was to give artists,

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Speaker 5: It's been like that since two thousand and eight. So

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Speaker 5: I do this weekly show and I present you know

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Speaker 5: So and I also featured myself as well. Let me

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Speaker 3: So absolutely so Soul Rising, that's why you're on the show.

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Speaker 2: Talk about this new CD. What number is this? Is

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Speaker 2: But was put I called Till We Meet Again? Right?

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Speaker 3: That was a connection to it, Soul rising, you know, correct,

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Speaker 5: for my stepping folks. If you a stepper, your hand dancer, whatever.

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Speaker 5: That on two step, there you go, There you go.

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Speaker 6: Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass,

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Speaker 3: That's why I know that when I bring you on

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Speaker 3: When you know when they change the whole music rating,

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Speaker 2: And then that turns around to go, well, you know

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Speaker 3: People want to buy me if you give me a shot,

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Speaker 2: Guess what they worry about their job. They were about

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Speaker 3: But the main thing of me coming on this show

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Speaker 3: of what you're trying to tell. Anybody who's listening understand that. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Correct, Absolutely absolutely, and that should be everyone's attitude with everything.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're gonna hear more nose than yesters in

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Speaker 5: You know, you got to live, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: You can't just I would recommend not to be put

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Speaker 5: You know, we're living in the world. Now we'll go

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Speaker 3: Okay, where can we get the album? Where can we

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Speaker 3: get to single? Let's put that on the stream. Now,

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Speaker 5: If you want to pick up the album, come to

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Speaker 5: the Prince of Sophisticated Soul dot com the Prince of

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Speaker 5: Sophisticated Soul dot com and you can pick up the

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Speaker 5: well Downing dot com and that'll tell you, uh, you

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Speaker 5: know where I'll be and hopefully I'll be in a city,

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Speaker 3: When you say when you say you know the benchance,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And that's what I like to hear when

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Speaker 3: It's really a beautiful thing. Just break down this whole

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Speaker 3: love to everybody who put this together, the twenty seventh

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Speaker 4: Got it well.

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Speaker 5: For the first single that came out, Till We Meet Again,

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Speaker 4: Actually, we did a.

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Speaker 5: Great cover of a classic Stylistic song, Yours Writer's Rain.

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Speaker 5: If you're not hip to that song, obviously go check

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Speaker 5: well doubting, you're going to love, love love this autum.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's important that people understand that your music, your career,

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Speaker 3: This music is about. This song is what I read,

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Speaker 4: Right yeah, livingly a couple of weeks after.

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Speaker 2: Mind yeah, and he was saying that the Ray Sean,

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Speaker 2: Your music and music like yours, because everybody's not rapping

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Speaker 3: Everybody's not rapping, you know, when they're trying to feel good,

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Speaker 3: just need time to find ourselves. We need time to heal,

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Speaker 3: we need time to feel good about ourselves.

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Speaker 2: At a pace. That's what your music does.

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Speaker 3: Will you will Your music has always done that for

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Speaker 2: You get frustrated, call Reshak Rashan put me on the air.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: I'm so as twenty four my format from a podcast standpoint,

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Speaker 2: Be mean a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: Not that they didn't mean more, but they're gonna mean

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Speaker 3: more because I want to contribute my growth, my blessings

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: That's a beautiful thing. Man.

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Speaker 5: And anytime you need my support, you know I'm there, brother.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it again. Appreciate you again.

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Speaker 2: Tell us where it gets soul rising.

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Speaker 3: You know the lead single off thans Is already it

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Speaker 2: What part of my love? What do you get it there?

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Speaker 5: Then you go, I love it? I love it. Come

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Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't end, it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: I try to do it strategically so that I'm not

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Speaker 5: like that in March. So if you want to come

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Speaker 5: how the people react to the music, there shome on.

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Speaker 4: In the words of Michael Jackson, come on, shum.

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Speaker 3: And so that means that just go to your website,

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Speaker 3: and the website, the music, the soul rising.

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Speaker 4: The everything that you need is right there.

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Speaker 2: Everything's there again.

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Speaker 3: Fred brother well down In a member of a Mega

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Speaker 3: on my show, always supporting me on Money Making Conversation

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Speaker 3: other as always. Now I understand that purple background behind you.

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Speaker 3: coming on Money Making Conversations Masterclass show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you John appreciation, Thank you.

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