WEBVTT - The Insiders Podcast: Jalen Carter’s Record-Setting Contract Extension and Updates on the Patriots 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.360 Veteran NFL stars continue to arrive at their respective training 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.040 camps as we get ever closer to the start of 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.319 the twenty twenty six season. We update you from a 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.400 few coming up today, a season that will now be 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.520 the last for Aaron Rodgers. But how did he come 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:26.480 to that conclusion? Rogers explains his decision coming up in Oxnard, California. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.120 Welcomes in the Dallas Cowboys this week with work under way. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.400 Brian Schottenheimer reiterates their very super goals. We got a 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.120 live report from Jane Slater in Oxnar on this edition 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.600 of The Insiders, which starts now. Everybody, Welcome to this 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.160 Tuesday edition of The Insiders. Patrick Claibon, here's Steve Weischmeke Girlfollo, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.440 and Ian Rappaport on his journalistic travels. Shout out to 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.279 the industry where we all love deadlines, and we had 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.160 another today. That's what's now today coming into our newsroom. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.479 It was the self imposed July twenty eighth deadline by 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.960 Baker Mayfield, the day veterans report for Tampa Bay for 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.320 him to get a new deal with the team. And 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.200 now he also reports to camp with no new deal 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:06.440 in place. So Ian we'll start with you. Where do 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:07.160 we go from here? 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.600 First of all, my understanding is this is a pretty 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.880 real deadline for Baker Mayfield. It's not one of those 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.920 things where you're like, well, you know, I'd like a 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.280 deal and then maybe you know, I might consider lying 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.800 that another day. No, Baker Mayfield said, the deadline is 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:22.440 the camp reporting day. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:23.240 He meant it. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:28.000 I do not expect any other contract negotiation conversations to 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:32.080 go forward. Baker Mayfield is set to play this contract 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.399 out and really be in a place where he has 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.040 been not only his most comfortable, but at his best, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.680 where he is betting on himself. He's going to make 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.240 twenty seven million dollars this year, the last year of 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.040 a three year, one hundred million dollar contract extension that 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.240 was very frontloaded. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.280 He believes he is do a lot more. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.320 There's several quarterbacks starting quarterbacks in the fifties pretty clear. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.960 That is where Baker Mayfield believes he could be in 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.400 the fact that had any extension happened, it would not 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.960 have included did hardly, if. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.120 Any at all money that would. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.400 Any increases right now, and any deal really would have 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.880 paid him the latter parts of next year and the 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.480 following year, just not really something like that Baker Mayfield 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.799 was going to accept. So no deal for Baker as 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.160 he now is said to be a free agent after 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:20.840 the season. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.360 Look, the Bucks don't tend to respond to pressure when 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.120 it comes to contracts. And last night we were on 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.840 this show talking about Vita Vea coming out with a 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.840 trade request now because the defensive tackle wanted to be paid. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.000 In this case, Baker Mayfield setting a deadline right at 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.600 the start of training camp. They didn't buckle to that 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.840 and all of a sudden say, okay, here sixty million. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.440 From their perspective, if he plays so well that you 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.480 have to pay him next offseason, that's a good problem 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.600 to have. That means that he really balled out this 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.880 year and showed that this is not a short term 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.920 thing by any stretch, and that he can continue to 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.760 be term guy for you. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:01.760 It also keep him on the. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.600 Field, which frankly, he doesn't need the money motivation to 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:04.880 do that. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.040 This is a guy that's tough. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.760 And willing to play through things no matter what the 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.560 contract situation is. So from the Buccaneers standpoint, it sounds 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:17.000 like they're comfortable taking this into the season, into the offseason. Now, look, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.720 there's nothing that says they can't just come with an 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.919 offer and say, okay, here's fifty five to sixty million 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.639 dollars and Baker Mayfield. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.080 Can go, oh no, you missed the deadline. Like no, no, 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:27.720 he could take that deal at. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:32.400 That point, but Vea had a trade request and a 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.840 hold in that was in the spring and now potentially 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.640 could carry into the summer. Baker Mayfield is a starting quarterback. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.640 He can't play those cards. So this was his way 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.520 of creating leverage. He set the deadline, it passed. I'm 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.240 with you in it does feel very real. Potentially it 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.080 could change, but from his standpoint, that's the approach. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.040 Yeah, look at Baker Mayfield. Slute to him for betting 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.880 on himself. A lot of players won't do that because 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.480 what's the player's biggest fear. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.800 That is injury. We talk about Baker Mayfield. He's tough. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.280 He plays to you know, being hurt, and of course 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.440 there's a difference between being hurt and being injured. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.800 If he is able to avoid injury, and like you. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.880 Said, Mike, if he plays well, a great problem to 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.520 have because at the very least he could get franchised. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.080 That franchise number is going to be up near fifty 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.359 million dollars if he's willing to play for that. But 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.599 of course it's always better for a team's salary cap 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.760 wise to do an extension to amortize some of the 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.400 money and some of the cap hits over several years 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.480 instead of one year, which the franchise tag does. But again, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.440 good for Baker Mayfield. The key for everything to this, 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.279 if he decides to stick to this route, is staying 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.480 healthy for all seventeen games because an injury, of course, 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.800 could sabotage all of what he's banking on and risking 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.200 if he decides to better himself throughout this season. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.240 Yeah, four teams for Baker Mayfield. We saw injuries kind 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.799 of derail the end of his tenure in Cleveland. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.880 A little bit of experience with this process. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.840 As the process continues, Baker looking for that starter type deal. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:01.160 There was veteran backup type money for Kirk Cousins, where is. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.279 Not going to be a backup. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.960 The Las Vegas Raiders a new head coach, Clint Kubiak. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.560 They would love to see Fernando Mendoza thrive in his 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.200 rookie year, but to make it on the field. He 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.960 now will have to supplant Kirk Cousins, who is the starter. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.680 According to the head coach, I. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.800 Would say his value as a player on our team 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.280 is the most important thing. You know, his leadership, his 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.720 veteran presence. You know, the way that he played in 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.200 the spring was excellent. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:26.920 So that's we. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.719 Brought him here to play really good football. And obviously 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.760 the mentorship that's that's a byproduct of that. That's the 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.240 kind of guy that Kirk is. But Kirk knows, and 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.400 Fernando knows, and Aiden knows, and Jacob knows that they're 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:44.120 here to play great football, and you know, that's our 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:44.800 job as coaches. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.080 He get them ready for the other stuff. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.680 In Minnesota, the quarterback picture a little more cloudy at 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.000 the moment as we get to the competition between Kyler 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.680 Murray and JJ McCarthy, expecting that the heat up. Head 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:00.080 coach Kevin O'Connell on how they administrate that particular quarterback. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.520 Battle Kyler and JJ, Well, we'll take reps with the 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.360 first team. They'll also take reps with the second group, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.440 and I think that gives different layers to the evaluation 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.040 as well. We want, you know, we want an elevator 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.320 at the quarterback position, and in many ways, doing that 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.920 in this system is kind of a do your job mentality, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.160 which is, you know, running the show, throwing completions and 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.520 just showing the ability to execute our offense with comfort. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.080 You know, we want to be thorough, we want to 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.080 be comprehensive with this. But at the same time, I 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.160 think it's important when we feel good about a decision, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.520 you know, as a group, and we're ready to ready 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.640 to move forward, it'll be it'll be good to do 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:44.120 that so we can prepare that player for the season. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.839 Prepare that player got a placeholder. There ian both guys 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.320 taking first team reps. It seems like it can go 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:50.800 either way. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.320 Yeah, I think that's fair to say. But let's take 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:55.760 a look at the landscape of the situation. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.160 First of all, Kyler Murray was a free agent last year, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.599 and of course we know the Arizona Cardinals are paying 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:05.160 the bulk of his salary, lost nothing, and really had 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:06.160 his choice of teams. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.719 He chose Minnesota. 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.880 They really seem to be the prime spot for any 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.360 quarterback who wanted a starting job. They found each other 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.960 and a place where both were extremely excited and set 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.360 for it. I don't know if that puts Kyler Murray 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.840 in the driver's seat here, but at least it shows 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.520 there was mutual interest in making this happen and making 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:31.200 this a very, very real quarterback competition. Kyler Murray is 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.440 not an older dude. I mean know, it seems like 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.600 it's been in the league for a while. Still young, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.239 still can run still as they sealing the Kevin O'Connell 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.200 could take advantage of. And for JJ McCarthy, Mike, this 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.000 is a make or break year. He is a first 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.680 round draft pick for various reasons that not quite lived 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.679 up to it left the door open for a veteran. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:51.600 This is pretty open. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.040 But I will say this, the talent that Kyler Murray 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.560 still has well certainly seems like it'll be tough for 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.560 JJ McCarthy to be here. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.720 Big challenge for Kyler Murray is going to be just 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.680 spitting out the play call, just getting in the huddle, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:05.360 getting the terminology right. 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:06.640 It's going to be very different for him. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.640 That's also going to be the case with Fernando Mendoza. 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:12.840 Kirk Cousins not so much a bit familiar with the 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.559 system that Clint Kubiak is implementing, he has been through 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.560 other branches of it. I like to call the branches 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:25.000 on the old Shanahan McVeigh ish, Tree and Clint Kubiak 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.920 making it clear that Cousins is going to be the guy, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:29.720 as he said taking. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:30.640 The reps with the ones. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.640 Stopped a little bit short of declaring him the Week 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.240 one starter, but that is where this one is heading, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.319 but said he expects both Fernando Mendoza and Aidan O'Connell 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.960 to push Cousins. I mean this is consistent even before 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.800 the Raiders drafted Fernando Mendoza. Kubiak was at the league 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.320 meeting in March in Arizona and he said, you prefer 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.360 a young guy to sit and watch first. Now it 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.080 was clear he was talking about Mendoza. I'm trying to 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.320 remember at the time if they even had signed Cousins. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.160 I don't know that they had, But once he came 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.360 into the fold, it was like, Okay, Kirk, Cousins has 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.120 not taking that job at that point in the calendar 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.120 unless he feels really good, sort of like you said 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.360 about Kyler Murray. Ian really good about his prospects of 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.480 being the week one starter. That is going to be 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.600 the case. I expect Mendos at the play early in 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.880 the season, and look, he may light it up in 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.000 training camp, take all the information in, spit it all 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.200 out and say, hey, I got to play as soon 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.920 as possible. Maybe that forces their hand earlier than expected, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.240 but right now, Cousin is going. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:25.640 To be the guy. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.760 Yeah, you know, Klick Whobe back in Steadfast. I think 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.600 you nailed that they had not signed Cousins yet when 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.199 he made that statement about having a vetting quarterback kind 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.000 of teach a younger quarterback. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.079 But we heard the same thing about Russell Wilson and 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:38.200 Jackson Dart last year. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.720 Right, We've covered this league long enough to know that 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.480 almost any time you draft a rookie quarterback, even number 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.000 one overall, well, we've got this veteran here who's going 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.000 to take the day one snaps the first day of 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.520 practice until our young guy is ready, so to speak. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.760 That doesn't go saying, but we know that's the messaging. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.839 Look at the Raiders' schedule in October, Kansas City at 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.800 New England, Buffalo, the Rams. Okay, if Kirk Cousins gets 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.320 through but not too well, that might be the time 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.600 we see Mendoza come in. Now, let's go to something 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.240 Kevin O'Connell said about the Minnesota Viking situation. They want 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.959 one of these quarterbacks to be an elevator. Kevin O'Connell 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.880 is wise enough to know it's not just what these 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.800 guys do in the huddle and getting the play calls 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.880 and out, it's how the other ten guys in the 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.880 huddle respond to them. And that's why he said they're 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.840 each going to take first team reps and second team reps, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.720 and if they elevate the other guys around them, those 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.520 guys will tell the coaching staff through their trust and 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.200 their behavior, which quarterback they prefer, and that could go 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:34.720 well into deciding. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.520 Who's going to be the starter in Minnesota. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.959 As both Kyler Murray and Kevin O'Connell have said that 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.680 they would like to get this conversation finished, so whoever 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.640 is the starter will have an opportunity to prepare for 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.800 this upcoming season in which the Vikings expect to contend. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.200 We'll be back with Steve Wesh coming up a little 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.880 bit later on as we get to some guys who 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.440 could elevate our perception of them. But we start with 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.160 elevating the pocketbooks for Denzel Wark. Congratulations this week from 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.319 Ian a two year, sixty two point two million dollar extension, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.440 making him the highest paid dB NFL history for the 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:09.160 second time. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:09.520 In his career. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.679 So congratulations to the history maker there. And also this 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.520 week from Adam Schefter as we send out congratulations to 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.000 Jalen Carter. A four year deal could be worth up 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.520 to one hundred and sixty million dollars. One hundred and 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:25.000 six of that guarantee the highest paid defensive tackle in 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.880 NFL history as the Eagles ian are able to lock 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.760 up the centerpiece of their defense. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:32.960 For a while. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.920 They certainly are and look for Jalen Card. He's taking 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.640 up a lot of headlines for some good reasons. He 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.720 is extremely talented, extremely hard to block, and when he 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.000 is on the field, he has no doubt one of 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.559 the best defensive linemen in the NFL. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.520 There's also been the other stuff. There's a spinning incident. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.840 He's been dealing with his shoulder injury, which causes play 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.280 a dip a little bit last year. What the Eagles 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.920 are doing is betting on the potential. It is a 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.640 huge deal for you years one hundred and fifty two 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.959 million dollars at the max it's forty million dollars per year. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.360 And now obviously this is a bigger deal Mike towards 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.320 the back end of it, but clips is Jeff Simmons 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.520 record setting deal. They also paid Jordan Davis, another really 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.000 good defensive Tacooons means Moro Jomo probably going to end 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.160 up as a free agent there. But clearly the Eagles 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.200 putting their money where the priority is, which is in 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.040 the offense and in this case the defensive line. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.560 Yeah, the Eagles have had the depth at the defensive 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.640 tackle position. Milton Williams sort of in the Jomo role 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.400 a couple of years ago, wound up getting a huge 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.839 bag from New England. So Maro Ojomo could be the 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.480 guy that we're talking about soon getting that from another team. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.360 You're right, they paid a lot of money. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.559 Twenty six million dollars a year and thirty eight million 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.520 dollars a year combined. That is sixty four million dollars 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.400 a year if I just did my math correctly for 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.640 their two defensive tackles in Vic Fangio scheme. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.240 That is extremely important. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.440 Now, the defensive tackle market was sort of stuck for 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.319 a couple of years. Chris Jones was at thirty one 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.960 and change, and then Jeffrey Simmons goes to thirty five. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:03.120 Now it's thirty eight. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.640 Well, if you're Vita Vea with the Buccaneers we talked 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.319 about earlier in this segment, ask him for a trade 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.400 because he's been frustrated with the contract. 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.000 Offers from the Bucks. You're saying, I am making eighteen 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.199 this year. Now, it's a good chuck of money. I'd 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.880 like to make eighteen this year. I'm not. But Veya 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.240 is looking at thirty eight now and. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.160 Going, wait a minute, am I getting less than half 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.640 of the top of the market right now? So that's 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.000 where you get his frustration. You also understand what the 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.440 Bucks are trying to do. They want to get the 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:35.000 best possible deal. They also appreciate Vitavea. I'm curious to 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.880 see how they're going to handle this situation because I 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.320 know that they still want two men fences here and 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.400 find a solution if they possibly can. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.520 Again I talked yesterday, it's an experienced front office. They're 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:45.280 not going to panic. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.880 They wouldn't panic at Baker Mayfield situation either, So let's 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.040 see how that develops. But that gives you a little 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.920 perspective for Vea, he knew this deal was coming. He 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.240 knew even in the spring Jeffrey Simmons deal was coming. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.160 Wanted a big bump, and that's why he has gotten 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.360 to the point that he's requested a trade, which can 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.000 always be rescinded as soon as he signs a deal. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.680 Yeah, I would imagine Veavea has a pretty easy solution 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.720 to this problem for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We will 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.080 have more from our insiders as we get started on 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.559 the farewell tour for Aaron Rodgers. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.439 We'll see Ian and Mike. Then maybe some of these 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.640 teams would like to acquire the services of one Vita Vea. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:23.080 The longest NFC championship game droughts, how about that team 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.920 right there at the top of the Dallas Cowboys that 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.480 has been since nineteen ninety five. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.080 But they have hope, They have hope to get past 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:30.560 that game. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.480 As we go to Oxnard where Jane Slater is standing 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.640 by Jane good evening to you they got no players 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.640 on the pup list. There's no really publicized contract holdouts 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:41.479 or dispute. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.040 It seems like it's been relatively quiet. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.400 Is that because they haven't done anything or are they 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.080 just really good at keeping secrets now? 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.560 Well, well, well, Patrick, you know, Jerry Jones acknowledged a 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.720 lack of off season drama. 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.600 But and he even said. 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.440 He wasn't playing on stirring things up in the next 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.280 few days. But leave it to Jerry. A few moments later, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.560 he told us that he wasn't opposed the idea of 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.280 making a big, significant move if it meant that it 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.920 could improve the team. In fact, Patrick, he followed it 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.920 up by telling us that he had been on the 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.720 phone with a team and an owner as early as Monday. 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.320 Listen in, I. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.400 Talked about a situation yesterday with another team and another 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:34.200 owner yesterday. Very interesting. I'd give up future to add 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.640 substive to where we are today as to a player, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:42.480 to give you an idea about would I invest something 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.040 substantive to get the right kind of deal to improve 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.040 us opening day? 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.040 I would I feel that good about this thing this year? 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:53.520 All right? 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.760 That one word that he used there caught my attention, 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.560 The word substantive. Now, when I think of that, that 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.080 is a word that he has used and passed aggressive pursuits. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.040 One aggressive pursuit. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.600 That comes to mind was Max Crosby as you will 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.720 remember back then in the off season, he made an 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.920 offer to the Raiders according to multiple sources, and included 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.600 at least a first round pick and a player might 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.920 that be in play here? He was a player they 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:27.320 thought highly of. I circled back on this with Jerry. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.240 Why did you walk away from Max Crosby when it 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.280 fell apart with the Ravens and not revisit that? 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:32.680 Then? 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.200 We didn't. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.000 No, no, because there's nothing more to elaborate about, but 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.440 we did not walk away. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.240 What a player of that caliber be someone that you 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.680 would be willing to engage with another team in two weeks, 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.960 So that we're we're not all speculating. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:03.120 Again, Let's don't let's don't hypothetical here and be you 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:08.960 specifically a player in a hypothetical situation that is temper 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.600 It really is, and so we don't want to talk 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:17.080 like that and act like that. But that is a 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:23.760 good example of what you can stand ready. If in 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:31.360 fact you think the rest of your team is coming along, well, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.639 then those things stay alive. 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.199 Now, to be clear, I wasn't trying to have an 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.160 I gotcha moment, and Jerry and Stephen made it very 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:46.159 very clear that Max Crosby is a Raider. He wants 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.080 to be a Raider, and talking about a player, even 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.600 if it's in a hypothetical situation, is in fact tampering 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.680 and they are not going to go there at all. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.760 With that being said, Max Crosby has the type of 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.439 resume that would be quite intriguing. It would be the 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:05.360 caliber of player that they would be interested in. Now. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:06.960 I also want to point out that a lot of 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.439 things have to happen, right. He says that the reason 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.480 why he's even entertaining these thoughts is because he likes 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.880 what he saw from the offense last year, and if 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.280 the defense continues to trend and he likes what he's 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.000 getting from the offensive line, he doesn't want to wait 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.119 until mid season. He would be happy training around something 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.919 away in the future in order for this year to 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.920 get off to a great start. As for Max Crosby, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.520 I did think it was interesting that Clint Kubiak, his 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.200 coach with the Raiders, pointed out this week that quote, 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.520 he's ready to go, He's ready to practice, and he'll 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.760 get first team reps tomorrow, so his health is good 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.760 to go. Now again, whether this is a player they're 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:44.639 poking around on guys. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.160 I don't know, but. 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.800 He's at least telling us that it might be quiet, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.200 but behind the scenes, Jerry's still cooking in the kitchen. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:53.280 They didn't walk away. 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.040 And also a hypothetical player who may or may not 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.280 be another player that is very good. The Cowboys would 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.320