WEBVTT - Heavyweight Checks In

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin, Hey, everybody. So the season of Heavyweight isn't due

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<v Speaker 1>to start until the fall, but we wanted to offer

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<v Speaker 1>just a little check in. Production on the show has

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<v Speaker 1>slowed to pretty much as standstill because of the coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been able to go out and talk to people.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's keeping pretty much to themselves as they should be,

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<v Speaker 1>and generally speaking, even on the phone, people just haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been as interested in revisiting and talking about the past

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, and everybody's just more concerned about the

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<v Speaker 1>present moment and the future. So my producers Khalila Holt

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<v Speaker 1>and Stevie Lane are at home in Brooklyn, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife, Emily and our three year old Aggie

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<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota. But every day Stevie and Khalila and I

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<v Speaker 1>check in and we try to figure out what we

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing at this moment, you know, in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of work and also in terms of life. And a

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<v Speaker 1>few days ago, even though we were apart, we decided

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<v Speaker 1>to record the day that we were having and share

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<v Speaker 1>that day with each other. I was going to get

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<v Speaker 1>some groceries with Aggie, and Khalila was going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a walk to get a prescription filled. Stevie was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out whether she'd keep a blind date that

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<v Speaker 1>was weeks in the making. She'd never been on a

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<v Speaker 1>blind date before. Khalilan and Stevie both checked in with

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<v Speaker 1>their moms for little advice and mostly just for some comfort.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back on that day now, it already feels like

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<v Speaker 1>an eternity ago, even though it wasn't long ago at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are changing so quickly and every day feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a new reality. So when we recorded this, bars and

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants were still open and school was still in session.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, this was that day only a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels like an eternety. We shared it with each other

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<v Speaker 1>to feel less alone, and now we're sharing it with

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, and we hope it makes you feel less

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<v Speaker 1>alone too. Stevie, Hey, Khalila, Hello, So so how did

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<v Speaker 1>it go you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Khalila, how was your day?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I had a pretty good day.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Hello, Hello, hello Hello. Okay, I'm putting on my

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<v Speaker 2>ushes and then I'm gonna leave this house. First I

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<v Speaker 2>called my mom.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of like it has it all has this

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<v Speaker 5>feeling of like a jack in the box, which I hate.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate those things. Like, I feel like we're walking

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<v Speaker 5>around and we're trying to work.

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<v Speaker 6>Like do do do do do? Do?

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<v Speaker 4>Do do do?

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<v Speaker 2>Still went to the pharmacy. I waited in line to

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<v Speaker 2>get my prescription, and the line was really long.

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<v Speaker 4>So it took a while. I had to see big.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to stop recording out of respect to other

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<v Speaker 2>people laying in medical information. A couple people back from me,

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<v Speaker 2>this woman started coughing, and everyone got really tense. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I got up to the front. A woman who

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<v Speaker 2>was helping me went over and put on gloves and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, I forgot to put on my gloves

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<v Speaker 2>till just now. And then she got my prescription and

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<v Speaker 2>then I started to pay for it and she was like, oops,

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<v Speaker 2>I pressed the wrong button because of the gloves. And

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<v Speaker 2>then she was like have a nice day, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like thanks you too, and she was like thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll need it, and her eyes got like really wide.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I left the pharmacy. I saw a guy

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<v Speaker 2>carrying two bottles of champagne down the street.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder what he has to celebrate?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, probably, and I was like, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the ATM. And then on the eight way to

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<v Speaker 2>the ATM, I passed the liquor store and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to just go get a bunch of liquor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have bitter somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 4>So I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing that made it feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like a good day to me, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just that I wasn't just continuing to pretend that everything

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<v Speaker 2>was normal when things weren't normal, you know, like to

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<v Speaker 2>just acknowledge like, oh, it's like a weird time, and

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<v Speaker 2>like things feel weird.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was your day? What was the best piece

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<v Speaker 1>of advice that your mom was able to give.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I feel like times of stress, even

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<v Speaker 6>though they bring out you know, their like it feels bad,

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<v Speaker 6>I do feel also feel like it brings out the

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<v Speaker 6>best in a majority of the people. Yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like people will pull together, like people will you

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<v Speaker 6>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Like will we will be okay?

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<v Speaker 5>We will be okay. It may be rough for a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit, there will be consequences, but again I do feel, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 5>honestly like we will get through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone's scared and it's legitimately scary, but also like

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<v Speaker 2>you can only do the things that are in your control,

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<v Speaker 2>and like people are going.

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<v Speaker 4>To step up to help each other. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the meantime, it also feels like you can

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<v Speaker 2>still find these like small moments of solace in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Like at one point, it was kind of windy, so

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<v Speaker 2>my sound was all messed up, and so I turned

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<v Speaker 2>this corner. Sorry, I shoul it worked so windy. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go down on more quiet street. Okay, can you

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<v Speaker 2>hear the birds?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I was just about to ask you.

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<v Speaker 7>Think it? Kids?

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<v Speaker 4>And Jonathan, how is your day?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>My day was pretty mundane. Uh went with Aggie to

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<v Speaker 1>get groceries, and he was really excited because I was

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<v Speaker 1>presenting it as a mission. Are you ready for the mission?

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<v Speaker 3>Ye?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we got important work to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put you I'll wrap you in a blankey.

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<v Speaker 3>We advised broccoly you like broccoli, Yeah I do, and

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<v Speaker 3>klafalala and say I sink pasta. I did a little

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<v Speaker 3>have pasta.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he fell asleep like five minutes into the mission.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to the grocery store. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the rice was selling out. Oh, there wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of toilet paper left. And there was a sign that

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<v Speaker 1>said only one package per customer, and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got me all randy for toilet paper. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to buy some toilet paper. And then I got to

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<v Speaker 1>the cashier and she sort of toilet paper shamed me.

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<v Speaker 4>Every customer has had a roll of toilet paper. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if you actually mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the grocery store, they were playing old songs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Old East Station or classic rock. Right, they

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<v Speaker 1>played this song that I hadn't heard in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know Tom Petty. Yeah, so he has a

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<v Speaker 1>song that was kind of a hit in the super

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<v Speaker 1>early eighties, like maybe nineteen eighty or something called The Waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever hear this song?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? The waiting is the hardest part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do you know that song?

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's Tom Betty Killeeli. I bet you do too.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna sing and this is never ever to be used.

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<v Speaker 4>Be goes like the way is the hardest part, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, entire rat It's times vaguely familiar, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day you see one more card, you take it

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<v Speaker 1>on faith, you take it to the heart. The waying is.

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<v Speaker 4>The hardest part.

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<v Speaker 2>That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever really realized the lyric in

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<v Speaker 1>the chorus was every day you see one more card.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nice lyric. But I remembered when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, I had this friend Michael, and when it

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<v Speaker 1>was like professional days or days in the summer when

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<v Speaker 1>there was no school and we were trying to entertain ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't like sporty kids, and so we would take

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<v Speaker 1>on these weird projects together. And we decided to call

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<v Speaker 1>random number and give them a choice of a song

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<v Speaker 1>that they could.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to that fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, we thought that we sounded like very

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<v Speaker 1>official and like it was our business, but we must

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<v Speaker 1>have sounded like cartoon mice because we were like years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd be like, today's choices are Blondie's Heart of Glass,

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<v Speaker 1>ABBA's Dancing Queen or Tom Petty's The Waiting, and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>would just hang up on us. And one time there

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<v Speaker 1>was one guy who like listened to us through and

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<v Speaker 1>chose the Waiting, and we played it like one of

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<v Speaker 1>us held the phone and the other one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put it on the turntable, and we were just so excited,

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<v Speaker 1>like high fiving each other silently, and then when it

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<v Speaker 1>was over, he like he was like just a curious adult,

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<v Speaker 1>and he couldn't figure out what our business model was

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<v Speaker 1>like how we were earning.

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<v Speaker 4>Prothem and that man.

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<v Speaker 1>That man turned out to be Daniel Eck, who decided

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<v Speaker 1>that that model would be turned into Spotify. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like I hadn't heard that song in

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time. The connotations about waiting back then

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<v Speaker 1>were just like, you know, being a kid and being impatient,

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<v Speaker 1>and just in this context it had this new connotation

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<v Speaker 1>of just like the waiting is the hardest part, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. It's about like just anxiousness. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what's going to come next. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>the waiting, you know what I mean. It's just the

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<v Speaker 1>waiting right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's like the jack in the box.

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<v Speaker 1>Stevie, How is your day?

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<v Speaker 7>So?

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<v Speaker 4>I called my mom? Sorry, I'm putting away some groceries

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<v Speaker 4>while we talked. Is that okay?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I'm gonna do about my date?

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<v Speaker 8>You're gonna go?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know if I want to

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<v Speaker 4>be out there and what if I do have an

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<v Speaker 4>I give it to him. I don't know. It feels

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<v Speaker 4>like not a promising way to start a relationship.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you don't even have to go into a bar. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>want to walk outside, that's true, taking a walk that

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<v Speaker 8>would be nice.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know whatever. And uh. I was telling her

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<v Speaker 4>how I'm afraid to come home because I'm afraid of

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<v Speaker 4>getting her sick, and she was like, Stevie, like.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not worried for myself at all. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>worried about my parents.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Have you talked to them?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and they seem to be very careful.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to the gym. It was empty.

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<v Speaker 8>How old are they again?

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<v Speaker 4>They are ninety three years old. And I was like, Grandma,

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<v Speaker 4>don't go to the fucking gym. Like did you wash

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<v Speaker 4>your hands a lot and put purella on everything?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? We watched, We watched and be clean everything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I think from her attitude, she was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we have to keep moving, like I have

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<v Speaker 4>to keep your grandpa moving, Like we'll die of coronavirus

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<v Speaker 4>or we'll die of you know, like yeah, we're old,

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<v Speaker 4>Like we have to exercise. So yeah, and so like

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<v Speaker 4>the whole call was just like that was the thing,

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<v Speaker 4>Like she seemed so unconcerned for herself. But then she

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<v Speaker 4>was like super worried about me, Like she kept telling

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<v Speaker 4>me like not to go outside and to like wash

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<v Speaker 4>my hands.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're feeling okay, yeah, you know what what your temperature? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get sick. Oh no, don't get sick.

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<v Speaker 4>To be hot. But then I told her about my

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<v Speaker 4>blind day and she was like like her whole tone change.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh oh a blind day. Huh that's interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>to miss a blind day, this could be the one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh stop listen at my age.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't stop being a grandmother, can I. I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 3>to be a great grandmother. The two of you can

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<v Speaker 3>meet and talk six feet apart from each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if it works out, that's an interesting story to tell

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<v Speaker 3>your grandchildren. I met your father and during that coronavirus outbreak.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're getting a little out of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And think of what a good story you can write

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<v Speaker 3>for your for your right pad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean of which. I just want to let

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<v Speaker 4>you know I am recording this phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, jod, I better not use any dirty words. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know you'd do that. All right, you'll keep it

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<v Speaker 3>for posterity, You'll remembered le twenty years from now, you

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<v Speaker 3>could hear my voice. That would be nice. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you'll hear me from up in heaven,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Besides, I'm not sure that's where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 4>So so, so wait, does this mean that you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to go out on the day. I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I texted So. I texted him and he was like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>I totally understand if you don't want to do it anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>but I sort of feel like it might be nice

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<v Speaker 4>before there's even more isolation, to like have less isolation

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll just walk around and but yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all trying to figure out what comes next, how

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<v Speaker 4>I know, how are you