1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Before listening, ask good doctor, if your heart is healthy 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys. 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Shannon Gross Monday at the Star. How you fellas good? Kurt? 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: You're awake? I think so, Nate? Nate got the cookies? 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: All I know? How did you get cookie? He hadn't 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: had a cookie at the end of the season. Ye. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: All I know is that Dave Helvin and myself we 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: did the show last but Friday or Thursday? Thursday? Man, 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: I ain't know how much fun I can have about 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: you two guys. Did you have fun? Welcome to the show, 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Dave hell Man, Ladies, Hey, everybody, welcome to the show. 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I like about you. And you've cut 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: a brother, cut you off like Eric from North Carolina. Yeah, 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: finally got somebody on the show shorter than me. Wow. 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: Whoa induction? So I do you a favor by coming 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: on your show? Can you insult me? Thirty set? I 19 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: got work, I could be doing it, Soult the Great David? 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: He thank you, Nate. Wow, Dave. You know I love 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: you hand my favorite. Thank you for coming on, man, 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: problem truly man, thanks for coming on. Y'all did a 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: good job on the show. I watched it from LA 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: when I was out there for training. I watched I 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: watched it on US Getting Well Facebook Live. It was 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: pretty looked like a cool setup. I feel like I 27 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: need to be in here anyway, because we should have 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: had a draft show this morning if Brian brought us 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: hadn't bailed on it. So why did you not have 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: the draft show? He's in Augusta at the Master. What 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: you say, I don't I don't blame him. Yeah, I 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: don't blame him. What training? You you? What we got 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: training for? What? Here about? La? Potty training? Oh okay, 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I can go about thirty. I was actually in Culver City, 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: not even legit LA right and as La as I 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: got as we went to Santa Monica for dinner one 37 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: night and that was nice. So just you, me and 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: mister Eagleton went and William Boykins okay cool? Yeah? Wow. 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: We went there there launching a new website across the 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: league for all the teams. So we went up there 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: to see what that's all about. And learn how to 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: push all the buttons and do all the cool stuff 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: and let me ask you. Yes, one question him and 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: I know it's kind of off kills it so Eagles 45 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: and right, yes, Derek, Yes, our boss, Yeah, yeah, he 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: is our boss. That guy. Did he go a whole 47 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: weekend a couple of days that I've mentioned anything about Texas, 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: the University of Texas. No, because as we were sitting there, 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: they pulled they pulled some coach profile. Oh, Kyle Shanahan's 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: coaching profile up to show how the coaches pages looked, 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: and it had on their university, Texas. And Derek, I'm like, 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: I can go away from him. Thank you. He continual, 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: continual speaking of Texas. Dave. Yeah, reason why you're on 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: this show. One of the reasons, Yes, the main reasons, 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: because you're awesome. Your energy level is impressive for eleven 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: o'clock on him under thanks Dave, Thanks Dave. Kurt with 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: a shovel, and he keeps coming back. There you go, 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Kurt shecher is hell isn't gonna bring any energy to 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: the show. That's your job, man, that's your job. So 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta do something. I don't know anything 61 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: about football, so I got to bring something, right, Sure, Okay, good, 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: that's I like where your thought process is. Nate brings cookies, 63 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: I bring energy. I'm still trying to figure We're still 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what Kurt brings his laptop, Kurt 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: brings knowledge. That's good. There, go Wow, that's great. So 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Dave a cool guy too. You know you're kind of mellowed. Yeah, 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: I would his name? Uh Jay, Yeah, Jay Jay from 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: where's Jay from? A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Rhode Island. That's right. This is like, okay, we asked, yes, 70 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: day's busy. You went to Texas and you went to 71 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: Texas A and him last week. Yeah, but uh, it's 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: it's it's draft time, man, it's prota. Well, March was 73 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: really prote month. That's I'm actually writing a story about 74 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: that right now. Is we're kind of in a new 75 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: phase here today. Um, you know, I mean, there's still 76 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: a handful of pro DA it's left to be done. 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: There's still some a few visits left to do. But 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: like for the most part, the part of the draft 79 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: process where you travel is over with starting this week, 80 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: the coaching staff is here. I don't know if you 81 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: saw the parking lot this morning, but it's much fuller 82 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: than it typically has been because everybody's here in the 83 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: pre draft meetings start today, uh, and the thirty visits 84 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: start today. So the thirty players from around the country 85 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: that interest this team the most are all going to 86 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: be coming through this building in the next week or two. 87 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: What what is that on the screen? H Oh, that's 88 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Texas product. Yeah, that's Punaford. He's a defensive tackle that 89 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: that was down there. Let's keep him out of the house. Oh, 90 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: he's a good player, dude, Nate, have a shirt off. 91 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: He's a You don't like he's got confidence. That's why 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: he's got a shirt. What it is if you look 93 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: like that and you're gonna work out with no shirt 94 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: on in front of the world. You don't think he's 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: got some confidence something? Right? Yeah? Like a baby, Nate. 96 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Uh so So, I mean March is really the month 97 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: of pro days, like the Combine is in February, the 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Senior Bowls in January, and in March. Damn near every 99 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: college in the country has its pro day where it 100 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: invites the NFL community to come to its campus and 101 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: uh and look at its players who you know, they 102 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: go through their workouts, they're available for interviews, they do 103 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: personalized workouts. So well, at this point, what can be 104 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: learned at a college pro day? Um, if you want 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: my honest then maybe a little bit cynical answer, like 106 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: not a not a whole lot. Well in terms of 107 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: the elite guys, because if you're an e lead athlete, 108 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: you were invited to the Combine and you probably did 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: everything you need to do there. You meet with your 110 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: you know, you can meet with most of the team 111 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: and the teams in the league. You run the fourty, 112 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: you do the vert like for instance, Malique Jefferson, He's 113 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: a name that a lot of people probably know. He's 114 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: from Mesquite. He's, you know, three year starter Texas All 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: Conference type of linebacker. He did everything at the Combine. 116 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: He hardly did any workouts. But you get a chance 117 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: to meet with individual teams. You know that the Cincinnati 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: Bengals were there and they put the linebackers through a workout, 119 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: so you maybe get a little bit of FaceTime with 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: some teams. The big thing for the pro day, and 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad we showed Puna on the screen a minute ago, 122 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: because that's what it's really about, is you know, Punaford 123 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: wasn't invited to the Combine. That's it's a chance for 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: your lesser known names to get in front of scouts 125 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: and coaches because only three hundred and fifty guys get 126 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: invited to the Combine and there's obviously far more you know, 127 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: prospects that go into a draft cycle every year. So 128 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: I think the pro days are a little bit more 129 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: about the smaller name guys. You know, if you're a 130 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: big name, you probably did all your work at the Combine. 131 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: Not to mention, I think the thing that gets lost 132 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: in the shuffle is that all these guys do private workouts. 133 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: Malik Jefferson is from Mesquite, so NFL rules say he 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: can come up to the Cowboys facility whenever he wants 135 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: to since he's a hometown prospect or whatever. So you know, 136 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: maybe he didn't do anything at his pro day, but 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: he'll come here and spend a day with the coaching 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: staff and do whatever they ask of him. So, like 139 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: I said, pro day is really about the under the 140 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: radar guys more so than anything. There's not a whole 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: lot to be gleaned from your you know, top caliber 142 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: first and second round. How do they get to interview 143 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: those guys or is it just strictly workouts. You might 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: get some FaceTime maybe you know, the night before or 145 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: the day of after it's over, maybe you take a 146 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: guy to dinner, But it's not like the Combine where 147 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: they make themselves available for fifteen minutes at a time. 148 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, you know those guys at the Combine, you'll 149 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: go from six pm to eleven pm, just where you 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: do like twenty interviews in a night. It's not like that, 151 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, maybe you know, the Bengals 152 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: seem like they're really interested in the linebackers down to 153 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Texas because they sent their coaches down there to work 154 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: them out. So maybe you'll get dinner with the Bengals staff, 155 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, before or after. But it's really more about 156 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: on field than anything else. That surprises me that I 157 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: hadn't heard that. I knew there was a Dallas Day 158 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: where area guys could come in and talk, but I 159 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: didn't even like realize they could bring just Jefferson in 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: anytime because he's local. Uh yeah, I mean they do 161 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: it a huge advantage absolutely, like a Kansas City or 162 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: a more than once apps. So, um, I don't know 163 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: if there's a limit. I don't know why a guy would. 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, with all the teams that want a piece 165 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: of you, I don't know why you would come more 166 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: than these. Um. But you know, for Malik Jefferson told 167 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: us while we were down there, he has a thirty 168 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: visit scheduled with another team on Dallas day, so he 169 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: can't come. So you know, he'll probably set something up 170 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: separately where he can get up here on another day. 171 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, it is a tremendous advantage. And I'm sure, 172 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Buffalo Bills absolutely hate it because you know, 173 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: so much talent around here. Yeah, no, it's it's absolutolutely um. 174 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: You know, the Rams and the Chargers have a similar advantage. 175 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: The Florida teams have a similar advantage. Like it's it's 176 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: another nice thing about being based in Texas is that 177 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, um what you call it. So Malik Jefferson 178 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: obviously fits that criteria. Connor Williams is another of the 179 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: Texas of the Longhorns big time prospects. He's from capell 180 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: so he can come into like if you're from the area, 181 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: which is a lot of guys. Uh, Yeah, it's it's 182 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: a nice little advantage. For the Cowboys to have what 183 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: you're looking all crazy for, Nate, you know, catch the ball, 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: Catch the ball. Yeah, you get to know the guy 185 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: a little bit better. I agree with him, you know. 186 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: He just if you are first, a second or third 187 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: round pick, uh, it ain't that much of advantage. But 188 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: if one of the guys under the radar in your hometown, 189 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: I think it is a big advantage because see if 190 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: they've can cited like the defensive tackle was looking at 191 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: what we get to bring him in and mess around. 192 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: Wouldn't me kick it with him? Yeah? Can city don't 193 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: And that's under the radar guy. But you know, I 194 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: just think with the top guys, you you know, it 195 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: ain't that And that's I would you know, I would 196 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: point that out. You know, these thirty visits are starting today, 197 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: So the thirty guys that the Cowboys feel the most 198 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: intrigued mere gonna be coming through here. But and this 199 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: is just a hypothesis on my part, and I don't 200 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: think they're that worried about the big names. Yeah, they've 201 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: already got They've gotten to meet those guys at the combine. 202 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: They can bring them in for private workouts. They have 203 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: a good idea of what those guys do. But that 204 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the names, you know, the names that they're the most 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: protective of, or the guys they feel good about on 206 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: day three, like the guy you know, the the hidden 207 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: gym that maybe not every team is in on, that 208 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: they're going to bring in and take a close look at. 209 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: And that's kind of I mean, hey, they have a 210 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: long history of drafting a thirty visit guy. I think 211 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: Mo claiborne is the only guy in the last decade 212 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: who was not a thirty visit among their first round 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: pick um. But those it's the lesser names, the ones 214 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: that they're looking at for Day three that they're super 215 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: protective because we gotta hit. We gotta hit in the 216 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: next two years. Defensively on that type of guy you're 217 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: talking about, we gotta hit. I mean a lot of teams, 218 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: bill A, you know, the bottom of day rosters. I'm 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: talking about from like forty on down on those type 220 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: of guys he's talking about. But it would they have 221 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: hit big man, and I mean it becomes solid contributors, 222 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: not just one year guy, two year guy and gone, 223 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: yeah you're developing and somebody else take advantage of it. 224 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: But wow, Dave, but My question is, out of all 225 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: of this, working out all of this, you've seen all 226 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: of them, you share were broadest man in view? What 227 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: do you who is your guy or do you have 228 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: a guy our guys? Who do you like my guy? Like? 229 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: Just in terms of what I love, Yeah, and not 230 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys. I got two guys, Derwin James and 231 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: DJ Moore. If you listen to the draft show, I 232 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: never shut up about him from d J Moore is 233 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: a wide receiver from Maryland. Um. He's a He's not 234 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: a super like imposing impressive guy. He's six flat two 235 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, but I just think he's nasty, like, he's tenacious, 236 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: he never goes down after contact. I think he's got 237 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: really solid hands. He was the big ten receiver of 238 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: the year from Maryland. Okay, didn't have a I mean 239 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: he went through like eight quarterbacks in his in his 240 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: three year career. There like not much of a passing 241 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: game to speak of, but it did not stop him 242 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: from producing at all. I think he's just a nasty 243 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: little bowling ball who yak out the wazoo uh. And 244 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: then Derwin James is he's just a physical freak who 245 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: my buddy Dane Brugler loves to say he's a better 246 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: athlete than he is a football player, which I mean, 247 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, he put up a forty one inch vertical 248 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: at the combine. He ran him. I think he ran 249 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: like a four or four or something at the combine. 250 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: And we're talking about a guy who's over two hundred pounds, 251 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: so they're looking in him right now. He's got some 252 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: absolutely freaky athleticisms. What he is safety corner? Say, he's 253 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: a safety who can but he can do anything? Can 254 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: he come down? So he could play in the slot. 255 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: He could, he could probably play outside if you really 256 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: wanted him to. And he could absolutely play like some 257 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, heavy nickel like dime line. So like you're 258 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who could spots start in like 259 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: five different spots. So, James, we can't talk about who 260 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: the visitors are because we're not allowed to, right but 261 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, I'm looking is he that type 262 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: of guy you have brought us in your other young 263 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: man that do the draft show? Is he the type 264 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: of guy that can come in and play for us today? 265 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely see in like five different spots. The problem you 266 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: will he will be He's two he's way too good. 267 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: He's way too good, like it would have way too good. 268 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: He will be gone in the top ten. You know, 269 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: have you asked me who my guy was? Yeah, yeah, 270 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: but I thought they're gonna no no, no, no no, no no. 271 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: And I'm my my, my, my issue is this. It's 272 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: their two teams. I'm believing firmly that somebody gonna get 273 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: two or three d sorry quarterbacks that they think that's great. Oh, 274 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: I think five quarterbacks are going high and this and 275 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: so all of these guys, I've heard like thirty guys 276 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: you included to say, he ain't gonna be there. One 277 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: of them, he ain't gonna be theres not James, not James. 278 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: I agreed, I know, I hear it. I mean, if 279 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: you got you got a running back that you know 280 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: is going there, Yeah, no, you're absolutely. I mean you 281 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: can do the math and come up with about twelve 282 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: names that are gonna go that still leaves you with 283 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: seven spots, sir. And I mean we talk about it 284 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: all the time on the Draft show. Is would you 285 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: be willing to trade up for a guy like that? 286 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: That's for them to answer. I don't know, but your 287 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: feelings if I would yeah, absolutely, who you who you 288 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: got them to take? Y'all came out with your first 289 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: mock draft on dat Cowboys dot com. Right it is finally, Yes, 290 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were waiting waiting on this way, like, man, 291 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: who much? I didn't know you were waiting. I'm gonna 292 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: go look now, I'm gonna go look January, who did 293 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: you who do you have the Cowboys taking? And number number? 294 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: I got him taking? Linebacker by the name of Rashaan 295 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,239 Speaker 1: Evans out of Alabama? And why who is this guy? Um? 296 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: He's a big, physical, athletic linebacker. I mean he's he's 297 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: the classic Alabama linebacker. He's big, he's he's, he brings, 298 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: he brings the he brings the thunder. You're absolutely right. 299 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, uh not not like the most athletic guy. Like, 300 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not Roquan Smith, the Georgia linebacker that 301 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: everybody loves, uh in terms of you know, his speed 302 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: or his ability to chase down the ball carrier. But um, 303 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: he's in that mold of that classic Alabama linebacker. I 304 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: have them mocking him because I know they're interested in him. 305 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: There's a handful of Alabama players they really like Calvin 306 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Ridley being another one. Um, now you're your showmates Brian 307 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: and Dane, even Rob are all picking this late Van 308 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: Drash Yeah, so another guy. I'll just the the line 309 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: of thinking here is again you're picking nineteen. You know 310 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: your blue chip elite guys like Roquan Smith and Derwin 311 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: James are probably off the board. Um it leaves you. 312 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean you can kind of cobble together a five 313 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: or six name lifts list, and I just think vander 314 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: esh and Evans both you look at their talent, what 315 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: they bring to the table and the Cowboys need relative 316 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: to where they're picking, It just makes explain to us 317 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: way from uh, he's a linebacker at a Boise State, 318 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: Oh the undeveloped again. Yeah, he's a one year starter. 319 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: That's kind of a big knock on him based on 320 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: based on how you feel about his tape. Some people 321 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: either say he's only started one year, he's not a 322 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: very good player, or they'll say he did this in 323 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: his one year in the lineup. His arrow is clearly 324 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: going up and instead of down. Um, it just it 325 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: just makes sense in terms of what I think is 326 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: going to be there for them. I think maybe you 327 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: know you could talk about offensive guard. You could maybe 328 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, depending on what I do with dead Why 329 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: that upset you? Nate wants somebody come in and play now, 330 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: not a no no guard that they come in and play. Hope. 331 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't no no, no. Hey. This is where you 332 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: have to have a coaching staff that can as symbol 333 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: three future Hall of famers with two guys. Do you 334 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: do you want to get into this because it's I mean, 335 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: you could make the same argument about a linebacker, because 336 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: preferably a linebacker you're drafting in the first round isn't 337 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: gonna start. You don't want him to replace Jalen Smith 338 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: in the lineup. You want him to be your third. Uh. 339 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: They walked out and they's so angry. Don't go out 340 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: the door. You don't. I think there'd be a guy 341 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: better than Wilson. But you know me and you are boys. 342 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: You draft a linebacker if he's an impact. The reason 343 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to go with another lineman, the reason 344 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to No, we have four solid, 345 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: serious linemen. I know teams with less lineman get almost 346 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl with less talent. You can 347 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: take I hear you, big guy, I understand. But our defense, 348 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: I know is my point is, and I mean, yes, 349 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: Damien Wilson is technically a starter, but you're talking about 350 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty percent of your snaps. I mean, 351 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: strong side linebacker might as well not even exist in 352 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: the modern NFL. Greek, So you're you're drafting a guy 353 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: that's either gonna kick You're thirty four overall pick from 354 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: three or three years ago out of the lineup, which 355 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: you could move Jalen Smith to Sam. I mean, you're 356 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: that that basically admits to me that picking him was 357 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: a disappointment in the first place. If you can't stay 358 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: on the if he can't be your day one starter, 359 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: or you're you're which I think this is a good idea. 360 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: I think you need depth at linebacker, but you're essentially 361 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: using a first round pick on a guy who's gonna 362 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: be a catch all. You know, let's say Rashaun Evans 363 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: could be your primary backup at Mike and Will and 364 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: you're starting Sam. That's still not a huge role for 365 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: nineteenth overall pick. What we what we need and if 366 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: we have to move up, what we need is an 367 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: impact play of him that well, we have to move 368 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: up that's impact. Man, I'll scream because I got to 369 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: get back. So we don't bring us a And I'm 370 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: talking from a fans point of view, not common sense, 371 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: common sense. I build a different person. Don't bring me 372 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: another guy that cannot impact our We need an impact 373 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: on defense. You need to listen to the draft show man, 374 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: because that's the whole What can you get at nineteen 375 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: that's going to him? I have a more important question. Yeah, 376 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: just by that little scenario that played out over the 377 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: last two minutes. YEA, if Nate locked that door and 378 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: just you and him and I me and him would 379 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: never go like that. Man, you're gonna, man, you're gonna 380 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: They would never do that to him. Him, brother, we 381 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: cannot Okay, we draft the guard, understand, Okay this this 382 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: guard better better start. And I'm saying better, I don't 383 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: run over what's going on over there. He better start 384 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, he's got to start. If we draft 385 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: the linebacker, he's got to start. He's got to start. 386 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: Which that's it's The Cowboys are in a tricky spot. 387 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: And I'm glad, you know, I'm glad you came at 388 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: me from a fan perspective because that it might be 389 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: the most frustrating thing about covering a draft is you know, 390 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: people say, well, we need a safety, and I'm here 391 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: to tell you that there's maybe there's two. That there's 392 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: two that makes sense in the first round, and they'll 393 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: both be gone long before the Cowboy Woods. You're trading up, 394 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: what do you do because when you if you're just 395 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: talking about picking at nineteen, there's about three positions maybe 396 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: four that makes sense for what they need and what 397 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: could help this team, which is why I've got him. 398 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Drafting Rashaun Evans, It's not a pick that I love, 399 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: not because I have anything against him as a player. 400 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: It's just you look at the makeup of this team 401 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: and you would like to think there's a better way 402 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: to spend a nineteenth overall pick. Again, I mean, so 403 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: that goes back to the argument, would you rather have 404 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: a guard that's going to play a one hundred percent 405 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: of the snaps that you don't necessarily need, or a 406 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: linebacker that you hope will play. You would honestly hope 407 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: he plays less than fifty percent, because that means Jalen 408 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: Smith is playing like he's supposed to play. I gave 409 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: us scenario and I warned these guys against his last year, 410 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: we drafted tackle Charleton that number and wherever we drafted 411 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: him even worse than we wore this year. Here we 412 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: drafted him. He did not. Now answer this right here? 413 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: Can can Charleton play? We're gonna find out this year. 414 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: See had to wait a whole year with a whole 415 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: year on the first round pick. Guess what you're picking 416 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: twenty eight? Now? I do not care. We if we 417 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: still had Ben Mail, while I would not be arguing 418 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: as hard. But the guy that they started in front 419 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: in front of where is he now? He's off? The 420 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: team played these guys, especially if you're gonna turn around 421 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: and reward me with a cut, You cut Benson Mail, 422 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: while this is the guy that kept on the bench 423 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: after season, you could maybe drafted and Drusher at nineteen? 424 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: How'd that strike? You? Know? What has strikes me just 425 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: right down the middle, brother, because you got a lady 426 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: might be there at some at some point, at some point, 427 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: you don't keep projecting what you can't keep projecting at 428 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: some point. As much as I want to be able 429 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: to not package anything, at some point, you gotta get 430 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: a difference makeer that helps your team win. You can't 431 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: come back at the end of the year saying, Okay, 432 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: we did a great job and next year. We've been 433 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: doing that for two years and next year. Now, as 434 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: a fan, you can't keep saying and next year. I again, 435 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: I agree with you. For whatever package up. Man, if 436 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: we got a package about nineteen and and and and 437 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: maybe a third and just move up seven places, you 438 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: need to use your second to do that. How many 439 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: how many legit first round guys do you think? They're 440 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: about fifteen? I mean, like in that given year, it's 441 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: anywhere from fourteen to eighteen. I think. You know, when 442 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: you talk to Cowboys officials about it, they always conveniently say, like, oh, 443 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: like about nineteen twenty. It's like, sure, you say that 444 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: to us, um, but there's never truly no but but 445 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: and y'all are right. I mean, this team's not going 446 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: to consider a quarterback and they're not going to consider 447 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: a running back, even if they say they would, they're 448 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: not going to do that. So between sae Quon Barkley 449 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks, like a guy that they like will 450 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: be there. It just depends on you know, say they 451 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: stay at nineteen, who are your three guys that you 452 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: could see them picking. I know who your your favorite is, 453 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: But who do you think they will take? I think 454 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: the realistic options for this team Rashaun Evans linebacker at Alabama, 455 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: Layton vander Esche, linebacker at of Boise State, Calvin Ridley, 456 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Alabama. Think he'll be there. He 457 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: could be. It's I mean, it's a crapshoot, but he 458 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: could be. It's realistic to think. So is it realistic 459 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: to think that they would take him? Yeah? Fell off 460 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: the moves absolutely um and then sorry, Will Hernandez guard 461 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: out of UTAP I think is a guy to Yeah, yeah, 462 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Lop spark plug old dude. And then who's the rough individual? 463 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Harold Landry, the edge rusher out of Boston College is 464 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: another guy. Keep an eye on a kid? You have 465 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: any chance? Again? No, no, I will know. I will 466 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: believe that they take a defensive tackle in the first 467 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: round when I see it happen. I gotta see it. 468 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm not out of the gore of marinell No, not him. 469 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 1: I gotta see it because what they asked him to do? 470 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: He yeah, he like at the end of this table. 471 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: He will probably move to the end of this table. 472 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: That's the end of the running. But I'm just saying 473 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: but hey, And plus I taught a couple other guy 474 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: that like, no, this dude, ain't it. Hey, let me 475 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: say this here say it, Nate say it. It comes 476 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: a point where you cannot defensively. That's the only reason 477 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: we can't get into playoffs and stay in the playoffs. 478 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: I understand what happened to Super Bowl. Oh, I look 479 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl that that was you. We need 480 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: some defensive playmakers that can change the game at any 481 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: given moment. And more important, if you look at the 482 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: teams that were in the playoffs this year, you can 483 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: see at certain points in the game what they defense 484 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: affected the game. I mean truly, if with a big 485 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: head of fumble interception Jacksonville wrote it as far as 486 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: they could, just the defensive they ran in something just 487 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: a little more experienced you if it makes you feel 488 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: and I think that's a it's got a really good 489 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: chance of happening. I think if Calvin Ridley fell to 490 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: nineteen and they're really in love with him, they might 491 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: draft him. Guards a possibility, but I'd be kind of surprised. Um, 492 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: I mean I would. I feel pretty confident that's going 493 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: to be a defensive player. I mean, as always, I 494 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: don't care if I have a chance to be very wrong, 495 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't care if he's a corner back. You don't 496 00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: now because impact start. No, no, if that guy can see. 497 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: I didn't mind that Charleston didn't start. But when you 498 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: getting five or less snaps your first round it, I 499 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: don't care if he picked at thirty two has the 500 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: least see forty fifth percent of the snap. Just so 501 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: you know this, right, But a cornerback wouldn't do that. 502 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: We have you know what I'm saying. If that cornerback 503 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: failed us and they felt, man, it's the best guy 504 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: on our board. This guy can come in and and 505 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: all these other three young greats we're supposed to be glooming. 506 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: We need a playmaker. And I'm just being a little 507 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: ugly with the cornerback deal. We need a playmaker, help, 508 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: We need a defensive playmaker. But if he's not there 509 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: for you, if he's not there for yeah, yeah he 510 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: there at ten, just package it up, package it up 511 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: and let's go. I mean, because if we draft another 512 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: guy that's got problems mentally or physically and we gotta 513 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: wait a year anyway, won't we just package it up 514 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: and move up. I would rather, hey, nineteen and fifty 515 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: and even throw it in one of your two fourth 516 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: round picks. If that gets you to where you need 517 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: to be, I would do it. I don't know how. 518 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: You know what, and I've been hard pressed over the 519 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: last ten twenty years. I don't don't do that, don't 520 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: do that. I don't know. But you don't have name 521 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: me a defensive player that you can say this guy 522 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: is a play make except Sean Lee. Yeah, nobody. No, 523 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: that's a really good point. You know who the two 524 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: probably two guys, David Irving, but two government. How many 525 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: more years do you have? Two games? Two guys Marcus? 526 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: At that point, when you talk about game changing plays 527 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: that stick out in my head, one of them doesn't 528 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: even start Cavan because the special teams able to lay 529 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: the big hits, was able to down the ball inside 530 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: the five, and Jeff Heath. When you think about the 531 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: game changing plays, that's who pops in my mind. That's 532 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: not good, Sean Lee. This is this is it. When 533 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: when you look on other teams and you say, hey, 534 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: name a playmaker, they ain't gonna give you a guy. 535 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: They just showed up for one year. They normally give 536 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: you that guy that's been that two or three You 537 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: see it, you see And I'll be honest with you, 538 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: Jason pr Paul blew off half his hand and he 539 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: was he was in for two or three years with 540 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: a bad hand. He was a better playmaker than we 541 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: ever had on nine team. Come on, now, he just 542 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: went to Tampa. So I'm talking about guys that can 543 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: ultimately change a game. You know, Uh, put a team 544 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 1: on his back and change the game before Sean Lee, 545 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: remember Shann Lee when he finally became who he is. 546 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: I remember one game and he just put the team 547 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: on his back and just won the game years ago, 548 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: seven or eight times per year several years ago. Yeah, 549 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: he's done it like nine times a year over the 550 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: last three years. When he's sold. If you're not gonna 551 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: go out and try to get that type of guy, 552 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: if you keep hoping that something gonna fall to you, 553 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: oh well we did the best. You need. You need 554 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: to talk to Brian. He's been saying this for about 555 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: three months. I think you guys make make an impassion 556 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: to plead to the Cowboys brass. You cannot keep go 557 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: get your man Jerry's gonna make a splash. He'll he'll 558 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: trade him. What a splash was Kevin King last year 559 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: for Green Baby who we conveniently we got shots and 560 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: then we let Green Bay get him in the second round. Yeah, Dave, 561 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go or can you hang out 562 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: one more segment? Um, if you don't crack a joke 563 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: on him, you make I mean I need to go. 564 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: I got a story real quick before before you got 565 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: to go to break, you went to A and M 566 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: as well, Right, Yes, there was a special guest or 567 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: actually several special guests there. Tell us what the scene was, like, 568 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: I assume you're talking about Johnny Manzel Johnny and then 569 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: some of his former teammates came back. Yeah, Johnny was there, 570 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: Mike Evans was there, Miles Garrett was there. Um it honestly, 571 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean there were a lot of people there, and 572 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: most of them wanted to talk to Johnny Manziel, not 573 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: of any of A and M's current prospects. But I 574 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: mean it wasn't anything that you're not used to seeing 575 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: just being around the cowboys all the time. Like I 576 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: mean the pro day he did four years ago when 577 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: he was actually going into the draft. Was unbelievable. It 578 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: was stupid, like ESPN had their whole network there and 579 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: it was just a spectacle. This was a little more tame. 580 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: Any guys stand out to you from A and M. 581 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is another receiver. I wouldn't I wouldn't want 582 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: to draft him in the first round. I don't. I know. 583 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: They sent Kyle Valero, one of the wide receivers coaches here. 584 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: They sent him to look at Kirk last week privately. Again, 585 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: that's you know, the pro Day's the thing that gets 586 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: all the headlines, But all of these teams are sending 587 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: coaches and scouts everywhere, kind of under the radar to 588 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: take a look at these guys. So, like I said, 589 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: pro DA's like a lot of spectacle with not always 590 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: that much substance. Kirk's an interesting guy. Keith O'Quinn was 591 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: there to look at him as a punt returner. But again, 592 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how well he actually fits here. But 593 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: these teams are doing their due diligence on everybody. All right, Well, Dave, 594 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much for stop by. Guys. Awesome, appreciate 595 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: your time. We got to take a quick break. We 596 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: will be right back on hanging with the boys. It 597 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: can be hard to find the right resource for learning 598 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: about important financial matters. You search how to build savings, 599 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: you end up reading about the one weird ingredient from 600 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: supermarkets that can make you taller. That's why Bank of 601 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: America build Better Money Habits dot com, a safe little 602 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: corner of the Internet for answering your financial questions. Full 603 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: of simple videos and tips, Better Money Habits can show 604 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: you how to make the most of your money without 605 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: resorting to random searches that always seem to lead to 606 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: unbelievable photos of childhood stars grown up. To learn more, 607 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: visit better Money habits dot com. What does it mean 608 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: to be a Dallas Cowboys fan? It means you've got 609 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: the passion of the heart to do your part supporting 610 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: the Boys no matter what. That's why when the game's 611 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: on the line, you're on your feet, whether you're at 612 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: home or in the stands. Actually, you're more than a fan. 613 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: You are a member of Cowboys Nation, and so is 614 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: AT and T doing their part to keep you connected 615 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: to America's team all season. Law At and T is 616 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: a proud member of the Cowboys Nations. Ice Cold Doctor 617 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: Pepper and the Dallas Cowboys go way back. They belong together, 618 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: like Texas and football, Silver and Blue shotgun formations and 619 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: Hail Mary's. Having a Cowboys football party without Doctor Pepper 620 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: is like having Thanksgiving without the Cowboys. Basically, we wouldn't 621 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: recommend it. So next time you have a tailgate, homegate, 622 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: or whatever else kind of gate, grab some ice cold 623 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper for you and your friends to enjoy. It's 624 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys tradition. Doctor Pepper the one you crave. 625 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: To work this big land. You need equipment with values 626 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: rooted as deep in Texas soil as you are like 627 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: John Dear compact tractors with a six year power train, 628 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: warrant to in big features that help you work less 629 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: so you have more time to do what you love. 630 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: John Deer was first in the Texas fields, and we're 631 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: proud to be on the field as the official agg 632 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: and turf equipment of the Dallas Cowboys. Find Texas sized 633 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: deals in my John Deer Dealer slash Flippall terms, conditions, 634 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: exclusions and warranty limitations apply so you can move for details. 635 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Back hanging with the boys, We're back and Nate is 636 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: still shaking his heads. Nate got fired up last segment, 637 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: I do too. Speaking of fired up, fire up that underwear. 638 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: True cowboy loves his freedom. Tommy John gives you that 639 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: feeling of freedom where it counts with the contour pouch 640 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: that nestles you and fabrics you can barely feel. Stop 641 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: Exclusive Cowboys Underwear Tommy John dot com Forward Slash Cowboys 642 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: for twenty percent of your first order. Tommy John dot 643 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 1: com Forward Slash Cowboys. There you go. By the way, Kent, 644 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: thank you for playing those video clips. I got your 645 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: voicemail right before we went on the air on topics 646 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: that we were discussing today, So thanks for pulling that together. 647 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: Good yall pushing those buttons. That's our guys, Kent, Caden 648 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: and Dave, Earnest, all those guys, Thank y'all for doing 649 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: that stuff for us. We have a caller, all right, 650 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: The phones actually work now. We weren't planning on taking 651 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: calls this, Douglas said. The phone started ringing, so I 652 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: started answering. We got the real Anthony in Miami. What's up, buddy? 653 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: How you been my dudes? What's going on? Fellers? Just 654 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: living life? Man? How you doing? I know, I'm good man, 655 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm good. I've still been listening, man, I'm sorry. I 656 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: heard Uncle Drew Penson on there, and all right, man, 657 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: I'm still listening to the show. Good for you, thank you. Hey. 658 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: It's trying to call in, man, it's trying to talk 659 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: to some cowboys football. I heard them little Dave helmets 660 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: um and I'm with Date on one thing. Listen, man, 661 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: it's time. It's time defense. We gotta we know we 662 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: need a detacle linebacker. Safety. It's time to enhance that defense, man, 663 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: and stop scoring thirty and giving them thirty two and 664 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: thirty five and losing. I'm sorry, it's time we gotta 665 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: enhance our defense. I think if we do that, man, 666 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: we'll be our wife. With what we got on offers, 667 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: we could feel a gap in love guard and whatever 668 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: else we received or whatever else. And that's just that's 669 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: what I want to talk about. And the fact that 670 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: I missed you all man, my boys. All right, thank 671 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: you sir. All right, man, y'all, y'all take care of 672 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: all right. I have a great thank you man. Thanks Anthony. Yeah, yeah, 673 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: we're having a serious conversation. Serious sidebar. I think we're 674 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: negotiating terms. Terms. Yeah. Great, Shannons in trouble. Yeah, I'm 675 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: gonna use this opportunity to plug our draft guide. Do that? Man? 676 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: Can you throw this up on the screen there, Douglas, 677 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: I can. The Dave Hellman was just here in our 678 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: first segment. He's got our mock draft first round in there. 679 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: Also this all the Cowboys riders contributed to seven rounders. 680 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: We've got scattering reports on over one hundred and fifty 681 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: players listed over five hundred. It's your go to source 682 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys draft this year. Definitely check it out 683 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: beyond Dallas Cowboys Pro Shop online. Um So, now I 684 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: think we have us a special guests, all right, Shannon, Yes, 685 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: we would love to welcome to the room and the 686 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: studio none other than a friend of the show, Todd Williams. 687 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: What's up, Todd? Very much? How are you guys doing? 688 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: We are great? And for the people that we're not 689 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: tuning in last time you were on the show, tell 690 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: them a little bit about what you do and what 691 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: your title is here. Uh, the title is a senior 692 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: Director of Football Administration slash Football Operations. A point that 693 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: might catch you. So the little thing is the probably 694 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: the best thing. We describe it pretty much anything to 695 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: do with the football team. I'm somewhere inlved somewhere involved, Yes, 696 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: and that's why we wanted to get you on the show. 697 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: Is there some rule changes that happened at the owner's 698 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: meetings I guess last week and we just kind of 699 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: wanted to get your Of course, the big one in 700 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: cowboy world is the changing of what's a catch and 701 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: what's not a catch that directly would impacted the Green 702 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: Bay game. Yes, Um, let's talk about that one first. 703 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: What exactly explained everybody what the rule was and what 704 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: they changed it to. Well, the whole thing is, the 705 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: thing's been kind of drug on for so long, especially 706 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: after the we all say the deaths catch. Um that 707 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's been people have been getting it 708 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: confused and dragging the rule out and then they kind 709 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: of changed it where this is the whole process of 710 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: the catch not accessarily a football move, which it used 711 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: to be kind of more of a football move. It 712 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of evolved is that what was a football move 713 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: then plus all the way to the ground things like that, 714 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: and just got everybody kind of confused. So the easiest 715 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: thing I can say, after sitting in these meetings and 716 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: listen to these coaches, GMS, everybody talk. I believe that 717 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: the rule actually now went back to the original rule. Yeah, 718 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: thank you, that's all it did. Thank Todd. I love you. 719 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean right, yes, sir, he went back to catch 720 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: the ball, take a step, you know, and if it hits, 721 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: if it hits the ground, it's a fumble, right, that's 722 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: that's And and if it's a fumble and the guy 723 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: recovers it, he recovered his own. If he didn't, then 724 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: it would be then the other team did it. He'd 725 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: get the ball. The other team, we get the ball. 726 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: So I do think it took a long time, and 727 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: I really do think they really got it right. And 728 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: it's a lot better. But if you really go back 729 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: to the old rules way back, this is what it was, 730 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: what it was, and they're they're saying a football move 731 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: and actually maybe even two to three steps, but it's 732 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: really a football move. And you when you make a 733 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: football move, you are you're literally making two three steps. Now, 734 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: you can still say that there's some judgment and they 735 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: will go replay it. But I tell you that the rules. 736 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: The problem with the rules is when everybody would see 737 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: a catch and everybody know it's a catch. You're like, 738 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: that's a catch. But then they would go back and 739 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: review it, and the way the rules were written it 740 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: made them change the mind. Yeah, mine, it's and it 741 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: was the rules the way it was written made him 742 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: do it. So now I believe it's it's the original 743 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: way the rules should have been written. And it's really 744 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: when everybody sees it and they say it's a catch, 745 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: it to catch. What was said? Was it a catch? 746 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: It was a touchdown? Right? No? It wasn't it. No, 747 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 1: it was. It was actually at the half yard line 748 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: because he went down his knees down down and the 749 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: ball hit on the half of the yard line and 750 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: then that's when the ball kind of popped up. But 751 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: then he kind of rolled into it. Yeah, and still 752 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: had possession of it. But they would have called the 753 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: ball down on the half yard it is. And this 754 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: is the amazing thing. It got bad. Line there we 755 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: go and give me your thoughts. This is where it 756 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: got bad at This is where it got terrible when 757 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: you would make a catch for a touchdown to Jesse 758 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: James uh with the stillers right now, they tell us, 759 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: once the ball break the plane, it's a touchdown. It's 760 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown. All of a sudden, we that overruled the ground. 761 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: That should have overruled the ground because it broke the plank. 762 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, now we we're taking back touchdowns. 763 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: Fans are saying, is it a touchdown? Nobody can celebrate? Right? Wow? 764 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: But but you're right though, Nate. The one The whole 765 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 1: thing too, is if a guy makes the football move 766 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: and extends the ball over the line, it's Touchdown's done. 767 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you do after that. It's the 768 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: same thing. It's the um um god, I just went blank. 769 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. You got a lot on your mind. 770 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: You got a lot. There's there's been cases on it 771 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: where that would happen. And then you know, everyone knows 772 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: it's a touchdown. But then the way the rules written 773 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: it would they would have to change. I read somewhere remote. 774 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: Most of the time the referees are actually getting it right, yes, 775 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: But it was the video guys that were having because well, 776 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: it's going and slow motion things like that, you see it, 777 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: and then reading the rule, well, hey, this is what 778 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: the rule says, so it's but I think they did 779 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: I think they did a good job on it. I'll 780 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: say this. I was in the our radio Boo Boo 781 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: was next to the replay booth in Green Bay, and 782 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: I was watching them review it, and they never looked 783 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: at an angle that showed the ball hit the ground. Yeah. 784 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: So I've always thought that was the biggest issue, is 785 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: that they claimed it hit the ground. There was never 786 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: video evidence that they saw in the booth. Now you can't, Okay, 787 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: does trust me on that? But I saw it and 788 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: then dock and that's all. Yes. Hey, what what other 789 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: rule that you think they took out or put in 790 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: that significant tire game? Well, I mean you can talk 791 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: about the the head rule. And I think they're still 792 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: trying to work on this a little bit, to be 793 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: honest with you, And I think it's more of a 794 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: deal where people see her play and they just know 795 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: that's wrong spearing time. Ye. Still, so that's that's the 796 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: one I think they're really gonna be trying to like 797 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: and even you know for now, they're saying, well, replay 798 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: can step in if there's a flag on the play 799 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: and there's a a total different play over here on 800 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: the side that somebody should be ejected and the ref 801 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: didn't quite see it. Then they can actually step in 802 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: and say that's got ejected. So what's what's the head rule? Well, 803 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,479 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, they're trying to get the head 804 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: really out of this game and trying to be like 805 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: it's almost like a spearing when your head's down and 806 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: there's a weapon weapon and that's that's it. And and 807 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: they just still don't want that. But I mean, we 808 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: all know we saw the grunkoxy play went on the 809 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: sideline when he just totally and he didn't get ejected. 810 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: Well he should have ejected, so they can go back 811 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: and review that. And yes, and then they could so 812 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: the so the because there was a I think there 813 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: was a flag on the play, but they did not 814 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: eject him. Well, now the replay can step in and 815 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: say eject he needs to be okay, wow, which is 816 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: which is should be the way? Yeah, because that was 817 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: crazy the Mike Evans, Yes, that was nuts. And so 818 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: that's the kind of plays they definitely want to get 819 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: out of the game. And rightfully. So it's going to 820 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: be interesting like when to me, like when a running 821 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: backs going on a sweep and he lures his when 822 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 1: the guy rarterbacks come or even darting through the middle 823 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: of the line. Are they gonna call that kind well 824 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: that that that's they're trying to figure it. To me, 825 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: they're trying to still figure that. They're trying to figure 826 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: it out because that guy that's kind of part of football, 827 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: that is, I mean, but it's okay, let me give you. 828 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: Let me give you example. If you coming through the 829 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: hole and I'm coming through the hole, you got you 830 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: got the ball as running back, you just gonna stay 831 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: up and let me just put everything I got in 832 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: your chest. Right, Yeah, but well a defensive guy can't 833 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: do it, but that an offensive guy shouldn't. Let me 834 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: ask you again, you can answer this yourself. Right, If 835 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: me and you come through a hole, look at me 836 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: and I'm fitting unload on you, you just gonna keep 837 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: running straight up and let me get you. Well, the 838 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: rule says maybe you shouldn't. I don't know. That's that's 839 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: gonna be the question mark to me again, that's what 840 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: they got to work out and to go back again 841 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: a little bit if they to me, if they have to, 842 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: they'll have to go and look at replay and then, 843 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: like you said, if it's you know it's on purpose, 844 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 1: you know what guys like I want to just say spearing, 845 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: and we try to take this game, you know, spearing. 846 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: And another reason they're doing this as a safety if 847 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: you look at some of the stuff and then and 848 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: the medical people went all over the stuff and different 849 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: angles of your head when your head's down and how 850 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: it is and if it's not looking up, it's amazing 851 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: how you can get hurt who you are. Yes, and 852 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: you know the whole thing about shit, the same thing. 853 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: If I believe this, Kurt, I believe if they just 854 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: keep it to the wide receivers. I'm talking about not 855 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: catching catching the ball when you got that ball of 856 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: you running, that's that's that's a that's a whole different 857 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: that's a whole different deal. Because I promising you, if 858 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: I got that ball and running and I see you coming, 859 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: you just coming with your shoulder from my angle, I'm 860 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: an I'm gonna drop my shoulder on your own, on 861 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: you and I'm gonna pop your neck now right, see this, 862 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: they got it right when you receive us catching the ball, 863 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: our guys catching the ball and then and they're helpless. 864 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: Keep it like that. You know you got your quarterback. 865 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: I think situation right, but when you got running backs 866 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: and all this, and don't go to bothering with that 867 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: because eventually, and I hate to say this because I 868 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't say this, but it's the truth. Eventually, when you 869 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: take all of the when you do take all of 870 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: the violence out of the game, it ain't gonna be 871 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 1: as entertaining because now we're stopping the clock, were stopping it. Okay, 872 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: let's stop the game. Let's getting the ejected. Let's do this. 873 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: Let's you can't keep stopping the game. You're messing with 874 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: the floor of the game. You can't. It's all right 875 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: to go to the frigerator and get a beverage one. 876 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: But I don't want to, you know, I want to 877 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: be like Shannon seven eight in one period. I'm gonna 878 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: tell you this. You're not the only one has these 879 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: same thoughts. Yeah. And it's being talked about a lot. Yeah, 880 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: and and and they don't want to change the game, 881 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: They really don't. I mean, this is you got to 882 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: be safe football. We know what it is, um we 883 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: want to keep it the integrity of the game and 884 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 1: what it is. And I do think you're right though, 885 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: it is there's some safety things and I think We 886 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 1: are definitely trying to get that way on some things, 887 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: but sometimes you gotta let them play. Yeah, and and 888 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: I hopefully, and I think a lot of and a 889 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: lot of people and a lot of owners think the 890 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: same way. I mean, they don't want to change it. 891 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: This this great game we have. Okay, quickly, are you 892 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 1: over the set up of our drafts? Since it's gonna 893 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: be no you have anything not not not the big picture, 894 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: but how we set up the room and stuff like that. 895 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: Are you gonna be yeah, what's your involvement around the draft? Like? 896 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: What what do you for for the whole NFL draft? Here? No? No, 897 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: what do you involve all that? Well? I mean you 898 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: know that Will McClay and and those guys, they're the 899 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: ones who run our draft meetings and they do that. 900 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: So what we'll do is like we'll go in we 901 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: start next Monday, start our draft meetings, and we're in 902 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: there till the draft. Um, they set up the times, positions, 903 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: what we're gonna be doing, who we talk about? Uh? 904 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: And and and there's a bunch of people in the room, 905 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: so so so do y'all take a lot of boxing 906 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: gloves and a freshening uh? What I'm saying, because I 907 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: know it's been a lot of arguing going on, passing 908 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 1: a little you know, you know, it's it's a it's 909 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: a good clean group. We uh we you know there 910 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: when there's times and there were you know, different opinions. 911 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: I think one thing that will does really well is 912 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: is if native me and you were we grade the 913 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: same guy and we see a different opinion and and 914 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: you share that opinion and you're like, well I just 915 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: don't see it. Well, you know what. The best thing 916 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: I think we do is we call it pause. And 917 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: what they'll do is after we do the meetings, was like, okay, 918 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: you two go sit down together and watch the film 919 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: and talk about it and see what you know. I 920 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 1: want you to explain what you see and vice versa. 921 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you when we've been doing that, it's 922 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: we've really come together a lot better and really see 923 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: I I so when we set the draft board, everybody's 924 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 1: on the same page. You don't have somebody sitting there going, oh, 925 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: well he should really be this. That's not the way 926 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: you do it. It's sure not the way you set 927 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: the board. Everybody's gonna be on the same page. And 928 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: and I think that one thing Will has done is 929 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: a really great job is he makes sure everybody's on 930 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: the same page. If you listen, everybody's different, right, everybody's 931 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 1: got different flavors, everybody's got sees different things. But when 932 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: you do when you go look at these and watch 933 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: the film and you talk to each other about it 934 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: and just said to say, oh, this guy's this, then 935 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: you know and walk away. That's that's that's that's not 936 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: productive for anybody, and it's not the way you get 937 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: get your board right. So sure there's a different opinions, 938 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we do we 939 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 1: get it right. I think we get it right and 940 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: talked through it and get it the board set and 941 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: we're good. What so, what's your involvement in those meetings? 942 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: Are you just kind of a fly on the wall 943 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: or you I am take more more of a fly 944 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: on the wall. Now, I will give my opinion if 945 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: it's if I think I should. Yeah, But a lot 946 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: of times, you know, I'll be honest with you. This 947 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: is where I kind of learn the guys. All the 948 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: draft picks are scouts, are the ones who've been sitting 949 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: out there going to colleges looking at the tape doing 950 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff. They know the guys. Um, you know, 951 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: our coaches they watch tape as well, but our scouts 952 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: know them better than anybody. So you really got to 953 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,439 Speaker 1: listen to them. See what they say about these guys. 954 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: Then you know they present it and things like that. 955 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: Then if I have a question, I'll sure I'll ask it. Um. 956 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: You know, the more you know about these guys, the 957 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: better you are and you feel about them as well. Okay, 958 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: I know you you haven't seen a bunch of guys, 959 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: but is any position that you would like to see 960 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: us go? Isn't anything that you gotta early fit in 961 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: and not what y'all talked about as coach is just 962 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: your personal preference. What would you like to see? Um, 963 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: what position? And not not being specifically Yeah, I mean 964 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: it got all fired up earlier. But yeah, we had help. 965 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: We had a helmet on the show and Nate, I 966 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: thought Nate. Nate tried to walk out, but the door 967 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: they Douglas locked him in, So I you know, So 968 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: this is where this is where I think you can 969 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: get in trouble when you're doing and you and you 970 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: spend all this time together and you spend these cous 971 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: work hard hours and long long. I mean, you gotta 972 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: think these guys been going since training camp just say yeah, 973 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: and and and they're on the road and away from 974 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: their families. But it's this what they love to do, 975 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: and it's great and they're great guys they do. They 976 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: put a lot of work in and and and we 977 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: always talk about this. I think it is where you 978 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: can get in trouble. Is if you sit there and say, oh, 979 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta go after this position, we gotta 980 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: do this. Well, then subconsciously you in your mind it's 981 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: a natural thing, you start pumping guys up, and then 982 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: that's where you can get in trouble. That's where you 983 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: can mess your board up. So if you kind of 984 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: have a clean slate going through it and you pick 985 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 1: the best available player, I don't care what position is. 986 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: Now there will be some times you say, well, you 987 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: don't need to go get a kicker. You might be 988 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: the best kicker out there. You might not do that right, 989 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: and things will kind of happen and players will go. 990 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: But if you can really have a true board and 991 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: really look at it, and now if if if the 992 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: two positions are there and you need one of them 993 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more and they're pretty much the same 994 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: grade or you feel the same, then you probably pick 995 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: that that position, right, So there is a little bit 996 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: of that. But if you just start saying, oh, we 997 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: gotta go in, we gotta get a defensive lineman or 998 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: a defensive end, well, then all of a sudden, guess what, 999 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: you look up there at your board, and all of 1000 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, naturally it happens. There's there's all a sudden, 1001 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 1: a lot more defensive end right, higher grades then they 1002 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: probably should be. So you be you gotta be careful 1003 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: of that. So like, well, I didn't really enter your question, No, no, 1004 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: you did. You did? You did? Because uh, you've went 1005 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: right down get the best impact player that we can 1006 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: get on that field as quickly as we can. You 1007 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: answer my question. That's Nate's whole deal. That's it, and 1008 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: it's true. I think it's very true. You guys, and 1009 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: especially those higher rounds, those guys have got to come 1010 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: in and play, play and be part of it. I 1011 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: don't care if they're special teams whatever, or I mean 1012 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 1: you're hoping they're on the field three downs, right or whatever. 1013 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: Defense guys or offense, whatever you want. Them to impact players. 1014 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: So that's what you need. Is there a seating chart 1015 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: on draft day in that in the war room a 1016 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, missus Jones and then his 1017 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 1: kids and then the rest of them. Yeah da. I 1018 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: wondered how the rest of them kind of fell in. 1019 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 1: It's like, you guys have been doing it so long. 1020 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,479 Speaker 1: Most of those guys in there been in there forever. 1021 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,959 Speaker 1: Is it kind of just habit where you normally sit there? No, um, 1022 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean you got you know, of course, you got 1023 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 1: mister Jones in the middle there, and then you got 1024 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: coach on one side, Stephen on one side, and will 1025 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: uh Chris Hall. Then usually it's Chris Hall. Yeah, they 1026 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 1: not Chris used to take Chris Chris. Chris does bluttle job. 1027 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: He's you know, he does a lot of the organizing 1028 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: of this whole thing, and he puts a lot of 1029 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: it together and spends a lot of time. So he's 1030 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: been here a long time too. Year Chris kind of 1031 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: started together. That's why it sees him so hard. Yeah, 1032 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,919 Speaker 1: But before I used to be was it I can't 1033 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: remember his name now, but putting names up on the 1034 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: board and everything is manual, moving stuff around now digital, 1035 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 1: digital and the nuts tell us about that. Boy, have 1036 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: y'all figured it out yet? No, it's crazy that. The 1037 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: thing about that board is so great is we've got 1038 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 1: a lot of years here that we're gonna have time 1039 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: to keep uh improving it and and and I'll be 1040 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 1: honest with this was the first year last year to 1041 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: have that. It's all digital and everything. And so you 1042 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: know before Kurs it was all tags and Chris would 1043 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: spend I can't tell him he tags. He's cut years amazing. 1044 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: He has a pair of sit he's had forever and 1045 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: you're like this long. And I told him I was 1046 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: gonna get them like gold plated because I mean because 1047 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: that those things have seeing some tags now. So there's 1048 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,479 Speaker 1: a wall what we're talking about in the war room. 1049 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: There's a wall and it's literally the whole wall on 1050 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 1: the opposite end of where the Jones family and everybody 1051 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: sit at this table. And it's all touchscreen and it's digital, right, 1052 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: so you can you can bring two or three guys 1053 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: up and video clips of them and shrink them and 1054 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 1: enlarge them and move them around and have your board 1055 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: on one side and you're yeah, it's so say, I 1056 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 1: will tell you this and it's it's last year. We'll 1057 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: just call this. It was vanilla, right. We knew what 1058 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: we wanted up there enough to to get through and 1059 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: show and do some things. Well, this year, we're adding 1060 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: some chocolate syrup and maybe some sprinkles. Okay, So we're 1061 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna add to this every year every year. Then hopefully 1062 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: we'll then we'll be putting some nuts on there and 1063 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: then maybe some cherries and but you know, it's just 1064 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be an evolving deal and it's 1065 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: really it's really cool and fun um and we're learning 1066 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: how to use it as well and just improving it. 1067 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: And we're going to improve it every year. And then, uh, 1068 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, we got these guys that way smarter than 1069 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: me on that part of it, programming this thing and 1070 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: how it all works. And you know, they, I want 1071 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: to say, they dumnify it for us. They give us 1072 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: this panel and usually I have it in front of 1073 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: me and literally I can hit We have some pre 1074 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: set stuff so I can just hit buttons and then 1075 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: it pops up. Got you. Now, they did all this 1076 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 1: stuff behind the scene, so it made it easy for 1077 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: me to do it. You're not doing the van a 1078 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: white thing yet up there like drag stuff, flipping the letters. No, 1079 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: not yet, but it could be. We could eventually get there, 1080 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: and I know we will. It's it's fun. There's so 1081 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: many different things we can do with it, so it'd 1082 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: be really cool. One last question before we get out 1083 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 1: of here. What it's about a rule change? And Douglas 1084 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: actually texted me this and I'd forgotten about it. There's 1085 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: something new with overtime that when I read it, Oh it, 1086 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: I confused the hell out of me. Is it? Well, 1087 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: it's simple. So are you talking about the rule tank 1088 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: if there was a turnover? Yeah? Yes, okay, so here 1089 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: it is. And and this is a lot of people 1090 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: don't didn't know this. So say a team gets the 1091 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: ball and they go down and kick a field goal. Okay, 1092 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: So then the other team gets the ball. We'll say 1093 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: they go down and are driving and they throw an interception. Well, 1094 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: the smart thing to do is is the guy who 1095 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 1: intercepted it neil, game's over. We'll say he freaks out 1096 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: and doesn't remember to do that and starts running down 1097 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: the field. He's almost about to score. He fumbles the ball. 1098 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: Then the other team gets the ball back and starts 1099 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 1: running and they running in for a touchdown, the touchdown 1100 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't count. They still would lose the game because it 1101 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 1: was a second possession. Wow, Okay, it's never happened. Okay, 1102 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: so now it won't ever happen because they fix the rule. Okay, 1103 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: but now if if yes, yes, yes they would. But 1104 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: but but if you think thought about this, could you 1105 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: imagine the ref having to go back on Dell and say, 1106 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: everybody's freaking out, celebrating crazy on the field, everybody's run 1107 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: around nuts because it was a big play, and then 1108 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,800 Speaker 1: all of Suden saying, well, that was a second possession, 1109 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: so it doesn't count. The other team still Winso so 1110 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: it was it was a It was a So they 1111 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: fix it now where if you fumbled it again they 1112 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: would get to win. Yes, yes, so technically it would 1113 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: have been a third possession, correct, But because it was 1114 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: one play, that trump's the possession. No, it's good, it's 1115 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: it's listen. I'll tell you this. There's a lot of 1116 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: people that didn't quite understand the rule, and it would 1117 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: have been a mess if they had to go to 1118 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: they ever go to the college way of doing it. 1119 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: We're professional football, Okay, that's too that's too physical that 1120 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: you won't be able to play the next week and 1121 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: spend it that a Thursday night game you will be 1122 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: beat YEA. Yeah, So I think that, you know, I do. 1123 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: There's some things that college is doing that that are 1124 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: that are good, but then there are also some things 1125 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: that they need to I think we need to and 1126 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: I will say this, I think there's some things that 1127 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: we need to mirror up on to help UH bridge 1128 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: the gap, and we are working on that. And um, 1129 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: I know we've had some meetings with them as well, 1130 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: and they didn't realize some things that we were doing. 1131 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: We maybe didn't realize what things So we can kind 1132 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: of mayor up and help each other out and become 1133 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: more of a a game where when you are through 1134 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,959 Speaker 1: college and you come to the NFL, there's some rules 1135 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: that are saying very cool. Well, Todd, it's always awesome 1136 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: when you stop by. We know you're super busy this 1137 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 1: time of year. We appreciate you coming. Why did you 1138 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: disserve them? What him on? What I do you say? 1139 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: You know that he's super busy this time of year. 1140 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: I said, why did you disturb it? Kurt did oh? 1141 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: Kurt our show is always better, always better. Thank you 1142 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: so much. All right, Kurt, thanks for showing up. Thanks guys, 1143 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: thank hey, thanks for bringing it Todd him so quick, Douglas, 1144 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: thanks for taking over the show that last segment. Really welcome, 1145 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: can't everybody in the control room. Thanks for pushing the buttons. 1146 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week on Hanging with the Boys. 1147 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: This has been a pretty of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1148 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,959 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.