1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. It's on the governors 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: when to reopen the economy. Plus, Trump is freezing World 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Health organization funding. Those checks that are coming to you 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: this week have a name on them. We'll tell you 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: who it is. Also, what has been the president's scariest day, 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: not so far, but of his life. He tells us 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: that is testing really the answer we've been led to believe. 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: And limousine liberals have a message for the peasants coming up. 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: This is the bus Sexton Show, where the mission or 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with passionable intelligence. 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: Make no mistake here a great American Again, The Buck 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show begins for the CIA analyst. He's a great guy. No, 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: The plans to reopen the country are close to being finalized, 14 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: and we will soon be sharing details and new guidelines 15 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: with everybody. I will be speaking to all fifty governors 16 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: very shortly, and I will then be authorizing each individual 17 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: governor of each individual state to implement a reopening and 18 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: a very powerful reopening plan of their state at a 19 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: time and in a manner as most appropriate. The day 20 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: will be very close, because certain states, as you know, 21 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: are in much different condition and in a much different 22 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: place than other states. It's going to be very very close, 23 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: maybe even before the date of May first. Welcome to 24 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: the buck Sex and show everyone thank you very much 25 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: for joining. President telling us how it's going to be. 26 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's a third eye blind song. I've 27 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: been listening to a lot of nineties music these days 28 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: so that I can go back to a happy place. God, 29 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: I missed the nineties. That was the last time it 30 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: felt like all the good guys were winning fall the 31 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Soviet Union. Cell Phones existed, but weren't ubiquitous. No Twitter, 32 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: no Facebook, no social media. Food was still good, not 33 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: as good as it is now, but it was still good. 34 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: But anyway, Trump was telling us all how it's how 35 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: it's going to be going forward for the governors, who's 36 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: going to be opening up the country, who's going to 37 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: be left in charge of each individual state, And turns 38 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: out it's exactly what you know, constitutionally speaking, the president 39 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: should be doing. So we had all this conversation, all 40 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: this discussion yesterday about how the president is. On the 41 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: left is saying the president's a tyrant. Now it's not 42 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: up to him. He doesn't have unlimited authority, and some 43 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: of us were saying, stop the hyper ventilating. We all 44 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: know what Trump was saying. We all know that. You 45 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: know that the journalists poked him a little bit, and 46 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: when you poked Trump, you poked the bear. You see 47 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: what happens. So we started saying things like my authorities absolute, 48 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: and everything goes. But we all knew that that was 49 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: just Trump getting his you know, strutting his stuff a 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: little bit, getting his back up against the wall and 51 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: deciding that he was going to throw down guys under 52 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot of stress. He's under a lot of pressure. 53 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: When push comes to shove, well, the Trumpster shoves very hard. 54 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: But beyond that, he is letting the governors make the 55 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: choice for the state. That's the way that they should be. 56 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: It is completely within the constitutional framework. It is completely 57 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: what we have been hoping the president would do. And 58 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: here's the problem for the journals, who you'd like to 59 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: think our first and foremost invested, invested in making sure 60 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: the American people have the best information possible and that 61 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: we all get through this together. But no, I think 62 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: for many of them, they believe their primary mission is 63 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that Donald Trump suffers the consequences for 64 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: this pandemic response and therefore loses the election coming up 65 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: this fall. So they don't know what to do with 66 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: this now, because Trump is clearly clearly doing the right 67 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: thing by letting the governors make these determinations. And there's 68 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: going to be a whole series of calculations. I don't 69 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: just mean looking at the numbers, but political calculations that 70 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: take place here too. The left, as I've been telling you, 71 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: has rediscovered federalism. Oh that's right. States have plenary powers 72 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: that if it's not in enumerated power in the Constitution, 73 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: it is left to the states. Right that the tenth 74 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: Amendment effectively just tells us what we already should know 75 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: from the Constitution. But it's kind of like a hey, 76 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: just just seeing you guys are very clear on this one. 77 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: As long as the states are not violating the Constitution 78 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: or federal law, and as long as it's not a 79 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: power given to the federal government by all the states, 80 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: it is a state power. We are we are seeing 81 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: once again that states do have rights, authorities, pur views, 82 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: and also what states you live in could mean a 83 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: whole lot, not just for your business, but also for 84 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: the health and safety of view and the population around you. 85 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: Maybe everyone's going to feel a little bit differently going forward, 86 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: voting for you know, lunatic liberals in some of these 87 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: very very blue states. But perhaps that's that's too hopeful 88 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 1: a position. They people. Some people never never seem to learn. 89 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: But we do know that we're heading toward this phase reopening, 90 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: so that's that's a good thing. We also know that 91 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: there are there are some states that have already shown 92 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: that they have very low numbers of infected and even 93 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: some very populous areas. I mean, Los Angeles is a 94 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: very populous but not densely populated part of the country, 95 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and they have a fraction of the cases that we 96 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: have in New York City. People being very close together 97 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: in confined spaces, from everything we've seen so far, is 98 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: among the very biggest risk factors for the spread, certainly 99 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: of the disease, not necessarily looking at the specific mortality, 100 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: although spread and mortality are certainly tied together. But Los Angeles, look, 101 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: there are people that are mingling at have been mingling 102 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: in the past, at least at cafes and gyms and stores, 103 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: and so there's clearly the risk and there has been 104 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: disease spread in the Los Angeles area. But all you 105 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: have to do is compare in New York to LA, 106 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: and you realize that some places have a bigger problem 107 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: with this than others. And there's no rational explanation right 108 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: now for why we should think that LA, given that 109 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: people are taking basic mitigation measures and are doing what 110 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: they can, that LA will be as bad as New York. 111 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: And you know, God forbid, we don't want any we 112 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: don't want. I mean, speaking here as a New Yorker 113 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: from the center of Manhattan, surrounded by the tallest buildings. 114 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm not just in New York. I'm 115 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: probably in the most during the work week and under 116 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: normal times. Right now it feels like a ghost town 117 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: because all the office buildings are empty. But I may 118 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: be in the most densely populated area, I mean one 119 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: square mile area of the most densely populated city in 120 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: the United States, and I'm here to say, along with 121 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: many others, that we want to make sure that there's 122 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: there are lessons learned from what we are suffering through 123 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: here so that other places don't have to suffer through it. 124 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: And the lesson that I'm taking from it so far. 125 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: And this is after talking to as many doctors as 126 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I possibly can, and just I read about this all day. Now. 127 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is really it is almost an obsession, 128 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: and I think that a lot of us feel the 129 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: same way. It's hard to get your mind off of that. 130 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: That's why I'm such a proponent of other shows that 131 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: don't deal. You know, don't watch Outbreak, don't watch twenty 132 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: eight days later. You know, get your mind off these things. 133 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, now's a great time to start Game of Thrones, 134 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: the books or the series if you haven't right. You 135 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: want to get your mind into a totally different world 136 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: sometimes because otherwise you find yourself just ruminating, just going 137 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: through this all the time. But I'm I'm as neck 138 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: deep in the newest information about this as possible here 139 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: in New York and across the country. And it just 140 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be the case. And if I'm wrong, 141 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: I'll come on the show and I'll admit it doesn't 142 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: seem to be the case that other states are going 143 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: to have anywhere near the problem that New York City 144 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: has had, and that that seems pretty clear at this point. 145 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: You know, Detroit is bad, but Detroit's a very densely 146 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: populated city. They've had a major outbreak. But I'm saying, 147 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: in terms of the scale of what we've seen here 148 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: in New York, that does not seem that it's going 149 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: to be replicated elsewhere. And so there are other states 150 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: that are at lower risk. There are other states that 151 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: have lower risk factors for the massive spread of this 152 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: disease than say New York does. And that was part 153 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: of why I find it troubling that North Carolina shut 154 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: down that protest yesterday and said that it was not 155 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: considered an essential activity, even though the protesters were maintaining 156 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: social distancing. North Carolina is not going to have anywhere 157 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: near the problem that New York has and South Dakota. 158 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's a trend that you're seeing emerge where 159 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: places when things don't add up to what the consensus, 160 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: the lockdown consensus crew, when anyone has a data point 161 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: that does not fit into their model. And never mind 162 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: the fact that the overall models, the HM models have 163 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: been just incredibly wrong. I mean wrong to the point 164 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: now where you'd say, I mean, are they just guessing? 165 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: I can guess too. Yes, people are dying, more people 166 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: will die. It's terrible. What's the number. I can guess 167 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: the number. It seems like the Washington the Washington University 168 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I HM models paid for by the Gates Foundation, that 169 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: they are so off that now people are just forgetting 170 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: that they were even used to justify the massive lockdown. 171 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: And I just find that I find that concerning. I 172 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: found that troubling. I insist on asking questions here even 173 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: if some people, if some people don't, oh, don't agree, 174 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: don't want to hear the questions, we still have to push. 175 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's very interesting. In South Dakota, 176 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: for example, Governor Christy Nome just earlier today this morning 177 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: shared the following quote, We trusted South Dakotas to exercise 178 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: personal responsibility to keep themselves and their loved ones healthy. 179 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: They've stepped up to the challenge. But some folks in 180 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: the national press are improperly conflating that decision with the 181 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: situation at Smithfield. Now Smithfield is a meat processing plan 182 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: and they've had an outbreak there, So everyone says, ah, see, 183 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: South Dakota, you only had you know of whatever was 184 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: in the hundreds of cases total and very very few deaths. 185 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: But now you've had you know three digit level case 186 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: breakout in this one plant, see South Dakota. You were wrong, 187 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: that's what the national press is saying. Well, the governor 188 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: claps back at them, so to speak, and says, hold 189 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: on a second, let's look at what's really going on here. Quote. 190 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: Let's be perfectly clear, a shelter in place order would 191 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: not have prevented Smithfield from happening. They are a critical 192 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: infrastructure business. They are part of the nation's food supply 193 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: chain and contribute to South Dakota's role fitting the country 194 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: and the world. We've been in frequent communication of Vice 195 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: President Pence, Secretary Sonny, and the CEO of Smithfield. That 196 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Secretary Sonny Perdue. We're working together on a that's the USDA, 197 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: by the way, USA Secretary working together on a plan 198 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to get the plant to open as soon as it's safe. 199 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: A CDC team arrives today to help us assess the 200 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: situation on the ground. Stay strong, South Dakota. Together, we 201 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: will get through this. Okay. South Dakota does not need 202 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: a lockdown because a plant that has hundreds of people 203 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: working in it that must stay open, which means hundreds 204 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: of people are supposed to keep working. No matter what 205 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: we're exposed to the virus. This virus is super contagious 206 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: in closed quarters over a period of time. We already 207 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: know that, but let's learn the proper lessons here. South 208 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: Dakota as a state is not at risk for Northern 209 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: Italy or New York City or Detroit style breakouts, and 210 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: to pretend otherwise is counter productive. And to look at 211 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: one case of one breakout in a vacuum and act 212 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: like that's indicative of what would happen in the rest 213 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: of the country unless we continue to lockdown, continue the 214 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: lockdown for how long? And a lockdown in South Dakota 215 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,239 Speaker 1: at this point is not justified by the numbers. Lockdown 216 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: is different from mitigation measures and common sense. There is 217 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: no I mean, this is one of the more frustrating 218 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: parts of this. There is no argument for no masks, 219 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: no gloves, coffin people's faces. If you're sick, go to work. 220 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Nobody is saying that nobody, but can't You can't if 221 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: you're a healthy thirty five year old, You can't open 222 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: your store, wear a mask and sell goods to people. 223 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: If you're wanting to go buy seeds in a store 224 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: where you're already present, you can't because that's considered non essential. 225 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: Non essential is now something that's just made up by 226 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: governors and by members of various administrative bodies deciding what 227 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: you can and can't buy in a store where you're 228 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: already present. Are they trying to destroy the economy even 229 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: more that it's already being destroyed? Right, Let's learn the 230 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: appropriate lessons and take appropriate action. We all want the 231 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: same things here, the best for the American people. Well, 232 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: basically all of us want the same thing. Some people 233 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: just want Trump to lose. But they're psychopaths. I can't 234 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: really account for them. Unfortunately, there are a lot of them, 235 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: and a good number of them tend to work in 236 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: the national press. But let's learn the appropriate lessons and 237 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: let's not allow people to fear monger and act like 238 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: there is. A lockdown is a temporary, extreme measure. A 239 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: lockdown is not a solution, It is not a cure, 240 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: and it is not sustainable. We need to start talking 241 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: about this in the proper context. That's where we are 242 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: from here going forward. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This 243 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. The scariest day 244 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: of my life was about a month ago when after 245 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: a long day of meetings. My team told me that 246 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: we were going to be needing one hundred and thirty 247 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: thousand ventilators, that we were short hundreds of thousands of ventilators. 248 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: This is the system we inherited, the system that he inherited. 249 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: They don't want to talk about this, but the Obama 250 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: administration did in fact have to use because of the 251 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: H one N one pandemic, which very few people I 252 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: think even remember. It just received different, a very different 253 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of coverage. And look, it's that was not as 254 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: it's not as severe as COVID nineteen to be sure, 255 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: but I mean, people don't even remember. You're gonna remember 256 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: this for the rest of your life. We're all gonna 257 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: remember this forever. People don't even remember H one N one. 258 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago. The presidents saying that we 259 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: did not have the strategic stockpile replenished. And you would 260 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: think that an administration beforehand that had gone through something 261 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: that could have turned into a massive pandemic if it 262 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: was certainly an epidemic in certain areas, that the administration 263 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: before would replenish. And guess what now now they're claiming 264 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: that they did so we're going to get into a 265 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: back and forth over this. Here's Susan Rice, who's just 266 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: just a political hack, not a national security expert of 267 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: any of any worth or insight, just an Obama political 268 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: hack pretending to be a national security expert that we 269 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: should listen to even to this day. Here she is 270 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: played nine. When the Obama administration left office, La, we 271 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: left the National Strategic stockpile fully stocked, adequately prepared as 272 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: one would expect it to be. That has been validated 273 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: by independent journalists who had the opportunity to visit the 274 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: stockpile in late twenty sixteen. But more than the stockpile, 275 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: we left this incoming administration with all the tools that 276 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: we had created for ourselves and that they needed to 277 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: confront such a pandemic. So they're going to have a 278 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: problem here. Again, Notice how that the narrative shifts with 279 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: the needs of the left. Oh, Trump didn't prepare adequately. Well, 280 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Trump turns around and says, well, they they depleted the 281 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: national stockpile for what we the material, the ventilators and 282 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: things we'd need for pandemic response. And they say, no, no, no, 283 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: we had the stockpile full. Okay, Well, we'll see about this. 284 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: But well, guess what if that's true, then clearly the 285 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: national stockpile wasn't enough and the previous administration didn't do 286 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: anything about that. But they're going to blame this administration 287 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: for not knowing it wasn't enough. They're supposed to be 288 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: the ones who were so smart and they had all 289 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: the experts. You know, Remember the same people that think 290 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: it's intelligent when Obama says to Coastguard Academy at their 291 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: graduation that climate change is the biggest national security threat 292 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: we face. Okay, national security threat. These people are out 293 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: of their minds. They think that that sounds really intelligent. 294 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: Oh and also they're the ones that really understand pandemic 295 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: disease and we're totally prepared for it. Oh, they're the 296 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: ones you know that you know, no notice how it's 297 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: there's a remarkable and it's just the you know, the 298 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: accident of timing. Here better lucky than good with so 299 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: much stuff. But when you look at the three biggest disasters, 300 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: and I want to do that with you, I want 301 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: to look at the timing of the three biggest disasters 302 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: of the last twenty years, how it's affected Democrats, how 303 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: it's affected Republicans. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson 304 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, 305 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. The three biggest crises 306 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: of the last twenty years, really the three big crist 307 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: sees of my adult life that we have seen, all 308 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: have happened to occur in a way. Now the third one, 309 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: it still remains to be seen what the political impact 310 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: of it is. But let's let's work backwards. Shelby, the 311 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: first time in my adult life that it felt like 312 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: there was not there was no such thing as real security, 313 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: and I mean on a global geopolitical sense, there was 314 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: no such thing as true security, and that the unexpected 315 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: the world can change in a day. That was really 316 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: one of the world can change in a day and 317 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: all of us can be at risk was nine to eleven. 318 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: We understand this right up to that point in my life. Yeah, 319 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: I remember some stuff when I was a kid about 320 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: the fall of the Berlin Wall, and you know, I 321 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: remember the First Persian Gulf War. But the First Persian 322 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: Gulf War was over and in a matter of weeks, 323 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: and it just there was never this moment that you 324 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: had a mass recognition of we are all vulnerable. We 325 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: were all at risk in some ways. And by the way, 326 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: that's that's not to give into fear or to be scared. 327 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: That's that's too accept and to move past. Right, we 328 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: are all at risk. We're all going to die. And 329 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: I think one aspect of psychology right now that you're 330 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: seeing is that there are some people who understand that 331 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: on any given day could in fact be their last, 332 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: and the state can't prevent that. The state is not 333 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: able to save you from the prospect of the possibility 334 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: of death on any given day. And all of us are, 335 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: in a sense on borrowed time, which is why spending 336 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: as much time as you can with loved ones, being 337 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: as good to people as you can, having as close 338 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: of a relationship with God, having a fulfilled spiritual life. 339 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: These are all such important things, more important than bank 340 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: accounts and promotions and social media claim and you know, 341 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: looking great on Instagram with perfect abs. I mean, all 342 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: these other things that people get completely caught up in. 343 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: We're all going to get old, We're all going to die. 344 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: Some of us will die before we get old, and 345 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: that's just life, and that's reality. And those of you 346 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: listening to this who served in the military overseas or 347 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: those of you who are law enforcement, who have taken 348 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: risks to your life day and in day out. You've 349 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: had to make that psychological, that that psychological, or not 350 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: make the leap. But you've had to accept that over time, 351 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: you've had to understand that right and at a lesser degree, 352 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: those of us who served in civilian roles in some 353 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: of the war zones, I think, also accepted that there 354 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: was a small possibility, but there was a real possibility 355 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: that you could die. You know, those mortar rounds would 356 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: land in those bases, did kill anybody. You could be 357 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: the ultimate fabit and some of you know what I'm 358 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: talking about, the ultimate fabit and you're walking and get 359 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: yet another latte and you could have as people that 360 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: I and this happened to people that I know, and 361 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: they get hit with shrapnell and that's it. You know, 362 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: this is the reality. Okay, So we all understand that 363 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: there are threats to us, and we don't constantly fixate 364 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: on them. Nine to eleven was a reminder, though, that 365 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: there are threats that are bigger than just the random 366 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: and the h you know, the the unexpected accident that 367 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: can come up, car accidents, things like that. Nine to 368 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: eleven changed our perception. The financial crash of two thousand 369 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: and eight, I think showed us that the financial system 370 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: we rely on was much more fragile than we had anticipated. 371 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: So we had a national security fragility moment of awakening 372 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: with nine to eleven. We had an economic fragility awakening 373 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, and now we've had a 374 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: health and mortality awakening as a result of this pandemic. 375 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: So those those are true across across all generations, all 376 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: political spectrum stuff that those are just those are just realities, Okay, 377 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: But then you look at what happened with nine to eleven, 378 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: You look at the politics around all of these things 379 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: for a moment, and I've just got to say, you know, 380 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, the luckiest thing that ever happened to Bill 381 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: Clinton was that he had happened to not be president 382 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: and had handed the torch over to George W. Bush 383 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: when nine to eleven happened. Because what you have there 384 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: was if Bill Clinton, if that had occurred in the 385 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: last year, let's say, of his presidency. I'm just talking 386 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: about the timing of nine to eleven. If that had 387 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: happened in the last year of his presidency, you would 388 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: be able to look at this very clear progression of 389 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: escalating al Qaeda threats, escalating al Qaeda attacks, the bombing 390 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: of the USS cole in Yemen, the bombing of the 391 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. These are those incidents. 392 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: In those embassy bombings, for example, killed hundreds and hundreds 393 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: of people, wounded a few thousand, if memory serves. I mean, 394 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: you add the two of them together, and we knew 395 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: that they were trying for more. We knew that there 396 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: was an ongoing effort against US. If it had happened 397 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: on Bill Clinton's watch, the narrative would have been, this 398 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: guy was too busy doing the stuff that he did 399 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: in the Oval office with Monica, too busy, lying the 400 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: American people, too busy, lying under oath, too busy, you know, 401 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: just doing all that. Just disgraceful. I mean, that guy 402 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: polluted the office of the president. That was while he 403 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: was president. People are trying to compare, you know, Donald 404 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: Trump being a playboy in previous years to his presidency. 405 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Are making a huge error, a category error, by comparing 406 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: two things that are not the same. This is not 407 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: we're not talking about what Bill Clinton did, you know, 408 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: back in the wild old sixties and the seventies or something. 409 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about what he did while president. Okay, And 410 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: you'd be able to draw this very straight line between 411 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: the ineptitude and and also things like the response that 412 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: he had when when the grand jury was called and 413 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, witnesses in the Monica Lewinsky situation were called forward. 414 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: In that morning, he bombed the pharmaceutical factory in Sudan, 415 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: which in retrospect, all the analysis that I've seen says that, yeah, 416 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: they were making aspirin, it was not a chemical weapons facility. Right. 417 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: That's so that was a big wag the dog moment 418 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: for a lot of people, and Bill Clinton wouldn't be 419 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: able to escape. His legacy would be that this guy 420 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: was doing you know, naughty things in the Oval office 421 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: and lying about it under oath, and then we got 422 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: crushed with a huge terrorist attack. If that had happened 423 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: on his watch, people wouldn't have trusted Democrats again with 424 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: national security for twenty years. But you know, the accidents 425 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: of history or the you know the capriciousness of timing 426 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: of these kinds of events. It happened in the first 427 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: first year, the first you know, nine months of the 428 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: Bush presidency, and then you look at the financial crisis, 429 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: and look, people will argue that this is fine, This 430 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: is the kind of argument that people will have this forever. 431 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: But I think it's when you look at this honestly, 432 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: there's no way that Bush in nine months was going 433 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: to be able to do anything to stop al Qaeda 434 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: from hitting us the way that they did, given the 435 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: growth of al Qaeda infrastructure, the safe haven in Afghanistan, 436 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: the you know, nobody presented Bush with the opportunity, not 437 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: that we know of, to take out Bin Laden when 438 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: they had him, they could have done it, and you know, 439 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: so there was no realistic way that Bush was going 440 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: to be able to avert the coming storm. But it 441 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: was handed over to him and he got hit with that, 442 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: and then we had the Iraq and Afghanistan situations, and anyway, well, 443 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: that's that's a whole other conversation. The two thousand and 444 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: eight financial collapse. The story that you've been told about that, 445 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: the story that you've been told about it from the 446 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: media and from pop culture in particular, is Wall Street 447 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: got greedy and main Street got hurt. There is truth 448 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: to that, right, and just with all propaganda, with all 449 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: parts of narratives, you need there to be some truth, 450 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: but it's never the whole truth, is it. The truth 451 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: that they don't tell you is that there were moves made, 452 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: particularly under the Clinton administration, to just remove lending standards. 453 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Everyone gets a house, doesn't matter how much money you have, 454 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what your credit score is, and in particular 455 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: if you are in an underserved community when it comes 456 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: to lending. This was true of certain minority communities in 457 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: the United States. No lending standards were allowed to apply, 458 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: and the Department of Justice under the Clinton administration would 459 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: sue a bank would sue you unless you gave loans 460 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: to people that in any reasonable rational world, looking at 461 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: the modeling, looking at the numbers, these people aren't gonna 462 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: be able to aren't able to service. These loans didn't 463 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: matter backstop by the federal government. That was the policy, 464 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: and that goes back to the nineties. Everybody, everybody who 465 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: wants a home should get a home. Homes are big, 466 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: homes are expensive, Homes are market based items. And then 467 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: we saw that Fannie Mae, Freddie Mack, We're back stopping 468 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: those loans, and that meant that there was no risks. 469 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: Then Wall Street says, well, if they can't fail and 470 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: we can make money on creating these loans, let's make 471 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: as many of these loans as possible, and oh, then 472 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: securitize them. Beyond that, let's bumble them all together and 473 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: start selling them, and we'll sell credit to false swaps 474 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: on them because there's no risk because the federal government's 475 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: backstopping them with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack. And then kaboom. 476 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: When does the kaboom happen? Doesn't happen in the first 477 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: six months of the Obama administration, right, the kaboom happens 478 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: at the end of eight years of Bush and the 479 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: War on Terror, and you get John McCain put aside 480 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: whether he was a good candidate or not, running around 481 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: trying to hold up the Republican standard and Obama coming 482 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: in and being able to see what these guys do. Meanwhile, 483 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: it was decades in the making, and it was really 484 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: largely Democrat policy, government intrusion to the market and those distortions. 485 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: But it led to people forget this. Obama was the 486 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: most left wing United States senator at the time, with 487 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: the exception of Bernie Sanders. Okay, Obama was a far 488 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: left United States senator when he got elected to be 489 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: president of the United States. That's clearly at some level 490 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: there was a response to up Republicans to add this disaster. 491 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: And now we have Trump here we go, He's not 492 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: even at the end of his and this is another 493 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: disaster that has been at least a decade, really twenty 494 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: years in the making. But it happened on a Republicans. 495 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: You're seeing that, you're seeing the pattern here. It has 496 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: a longstanding issue, happens on a Republican's watch, nine to eleven, 497 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: on Bush's watch, and then again at the end of 498 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: Bush's watch, we have the financial christ of two thousand 499 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: and eight, and now we have this issue of the pandemic. 500 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: And these issues are changing the trajectory of American politics 501 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: and with it, the history of the world. And I 502 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: don't really have an answer for you in this other 503 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: than it just seemed so unfair because any honest, the 504 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: same way the Democrats claimed that the Great Economy was 505 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: the Obama economy, and it was just laughable. We all 506 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't the Obama It wasn't Obama decisions that 507 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: I do the first three years of the Trump presidency 508 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: having fantastic numbers, prosperity, low unemployment, and all the rest 509 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: of it. You know, if you're honest, you know that, 510 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: But they kept saying it otherwise. I mean, the pandemic 511 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: that Trump has faced, this is a once in a 512 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: century situation. Nobody knew this was coming, nobody understood what 513 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: the full ramifications where, and nobody really knows how to 514 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: get us out of it entirely. Right now, then once again, 515 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: it has happened on a Republican's watch. So this is tough. 516 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: This is very difficult. I know, we just have to 517 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: adapt and deal with it, but I think that we 518 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: should at least be willing to take a step back 519 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: and say, wow, Democrats with when you think about how 520 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Clinton was unbelievably derelict in dealing with the well and 521 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but in dealing with al Qaeda 522 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: and in the way that they were doing all this 523 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: financial engineering as it really a means of achieving social justice, 524 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: and how that set the fuse for the bomb that 525 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: blew up during the end of the Bush administration with 526 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: finding so Bush gets hit with nine to eleven. And look, 527 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: Iraq is Bush's fault, not Clinton's fault. So I'm not 528 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: saying that everything is a Democrat's fault. That's crazy. But 529 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: Bush gets hit with nine to eleven and Bush gets 530 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: hit with a financial crisis, and both of those things 531 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: were really very much traceable to the actions or inactions 532 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: of the eight years of the Clinton administration before him, 533 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: and now we got Trump dealing with this once in 534 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: a century pandemic. Look, the good news is Republicans are 535 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: the adults in the room. But the bad news is 536 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: the adults are the ones that have to deal with 537 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: the really big problems. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This 538 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I think this is 539 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: the fundamental point here is that the best person to 540 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: revive the Donald Trump economy is Donald Trump. And with 541 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: him in the league, working with the governors, working on 542 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: that health and economic guidance, and now working with so 543 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: many leaders in the private sector who will come forth 544 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: and share their best practices, talking about what they may 545 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: want to do in their places of work. And I 546 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: would say to everyone, take a look at what was 547 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: put out a week ago. The CDC and the White 548 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: House put out updated guidance for critical infrastructure workers that 549 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: covered about sixteen different types of work. Trump is the 550 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: best man to get the Trump economy restarted. Certainly hope 551 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: that's can end up being a true statement. I think. 552 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: I know Kelly and Conway believes it. But this is 553 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: gonna be tough when you One problem that I'm seeing 554 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: is that there's a very little willingness. Economies tend not 555 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: to be the most aggressive, robust alpha types. I'm not 556 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: saying all of them, but generally speaking, you know economy, 557 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean people that are economists as a profession. 558 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: They're not guys that you know, They're not crushed beer 559 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: cans on their heads and giving the nerds wedgies. They 560 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: are tend to be the ones getting the wedgies, right. 561 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: I think I think we can all pretty much agree 562 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: on that. And I think that there's a surprising or 563 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: rather a noteworthy lack of economists who are doing the 564 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: modeling to show us. Okay, what if we extend this 565 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: thing to June. You've already had the governor of Connecticut 566 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: say end of May. Essentially, what if we extend the 567 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: lockdowns in most major, most large population states. What have 568 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: we extend them to June. What does that look like 569 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: for unemployment? What does that look like for not just 570 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: the unemployment number in June? What does it mean the 571 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: economy looks like next September? What does it mean for 572 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: the wealth of the average American household? How far in 573 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: debt will they be? How many businesses will go under? 574 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: How many of those businesses will be able to come back? 575 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: You know, there are so many areas where I'm seeing 576 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: you would think there's there should be all this analysis, 577 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: There should be all of these people that usually tell 578 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: us they've got all the answers right. Economists love to say, 579 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: you don't do this or else, My models show you this, 580 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: and they're wrong all the time. Where are the economists 581 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: willing to be wrong right now on an issue where 582 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be that hard to be right? We know 583 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: that the economy is in very bad shape. How bad 584 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: can this thing get if we keep doing this? Shouldn't 585 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: we know that? I mean, just think of it this way. 586 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: We've seen the modeling on the disease, the spread of 587 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the disease, the number of fatalities. Where are the models 588 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: showing us how much? You know? Why isn't it circulating 589 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: widely right now, what does it mean if we stay 590 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: at this level of economic productivity give or take until June, 591 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: and what about until September? Have you? I haven't seen that, 592 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: and I'm asking, I keep saying, someone please send me 593 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: these I'm asking forward on Twitter more wherees than one 594 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: these days. If you see you ask any questions, are 595 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: you just one grandma to die? I can always be 596 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: able to freak out at you. I really don't. I 597 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: don't want anyone to die. But I also don't want 598 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: the American economy to die, because that means people will 599 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: die too. That means they'll be death and despair on 600 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: a level that will last years, and that will have 601 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: generational effects. People forget this, but when you're talking about alcoholism, 602 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: drug abuse, child abuse, that replicates itself, that lasts for decades, 603 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: that lasts into the next generation. And you know there 604 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: are cycles here that can be worsened by things like 605 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: an economic or are worsened by things like an economic crisis, 606 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: that have long standing effects, long standing effects. But no 607 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: one's showing me these bottles. No one seems to want 608 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: to tackle that, because I think they recognize when you 609 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: just want to tell people, hey, here's what we're facing. 610 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: We have a big choice as a nation. Here's what 611 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: we're looking at with the economy. If you don't just 612 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: say lockdown whatever the medical experts say, you get annihilated 613 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: on social media and people start sending you death threats. 614 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: That's not the way this should be. Thanks for listening 615 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: to The bus Essen Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on 616 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Today, 617 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm instructing my administration to halt funding of the World 618 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: Health Organization while a review is conducted to assess the 619 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: World Health Organization's role and severely mismanaging and covering up 620 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: the spread of the Corona virus. People are very upset 621 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: about this, some of them New York Times, one of 622 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: them criticize for pandemic response. Trump tries shifting blame to 623 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: the World Health Organization. Why is it shifting blame to 624 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: say there should be a review because of what we 625 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: already know to be true. I mean, maybe they deserve 626 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: some blame. The shifting of blame common is meant to 627 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: make you think that the World Health Organization did nothing wrong. 628 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: The who is supposed to be our line of defense here. 629 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: You know, imagine for a second that you know, the 630 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: US Coastguard is trying to prevent drug runners from getting 631 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: to Florida, and we find out that there were you know, 632 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: eight oil tanker size shipments of drugs that in broad 633 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: daylight just happened to roll right up to Miami and 634 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: nobody saw a thing, and hundreds and hundreds of tons 635 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: of opiates are now all across the country. People would say, 636 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: maybe we got to look at what the Coastguard's doing. 637 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to offend the Coastguard, but you 638 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know, any organization that has 639 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: a mission set needs to be held accountable for the 640 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: mission set. And I just feel like a lot of 641 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: the military that listened to this are just like, yeah, Coastguard, 642 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: They're making all kinds of coastcard jokes right now. Sure 643 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: love for the Coastguard, darn it. But no, really, this 644 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: is a this is a moment where we either have 645 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: we either have an understanding of cause and effect act 646 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: we either believe in accountability for a major organization that's 647 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: getting billions of dollars of funding like this that won't 648 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: let Taiwan in, I would note, won't let Taiwan. Taiwan 649 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: is an independent country. It is not a part of China, 650 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: and just because China is fixated on Taiwan as a 651 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: part of China does not make it so. But the 652 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: World Health Organization blocks Taiwan from entry. Hmm, isn't that interesting. 653 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: That's why you've also a WHO employees, and some of 654 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: these interviews refused to refer to Taiwan. They'll just refer 655 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: to China like little programmed cyborgs. Oh you mean China, Yes, 656 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: China is doing this thing. No, no, no, we're talking 657 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: about Taiwan, a democratic country that is not a part 658 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: of You know, this is good. This is gonna get 659 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: very tense going forward. I keep talking about the Cold 660 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: War with China. One of the ways it's gonna heat 661 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: up is we're just gonna start saying, all right, China, 662 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: you want to play rough. Guess what we're gonna We're 663 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: gonna make sure Taiwan is never gonna be a part 664 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: of mainland China. Though, Oh they're gonna the Chinese Communist 665 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: Party's going to freak out about that, because remember it 666 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: goes to the origin myth of the Chinese Communist Party 667 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: that there were there were a popular people's response and 668 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: not a bunch of a bunch of Butcher's running around 669 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: with force shooting people that didn't agree with them. And 670 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: there wasn't an alternative to this, which, as we know, 671 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: was a government that fled to Taiwan, which is part 672 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: of why the Chinese Communist Party has this ingrained hatred 673 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 1: of Taiwan as as a separative state. This is really 674 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: the the ultimate irredentism. That's what China has for Taiwan. 675 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's something that you know that the 676 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: Trump administration has decided enough is enough. They've seen what 677 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: it means for the World Health Organization to do China's bidding. 678 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: We're all suffering now because of this. We're going to 679 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: find out soon. I believe this is an assessment, this 680 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: is not a fact. I believe we'll find out soon 681 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: that it came from a one of the virology institute 682 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: labs whatever they're called, in wuhan Um and that it 683 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: was an accident, but that they were recklessly studying very 684 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: dangerous viruses in facilities that were just not really equipped 685 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: for it. I think that's what we're gonna find out happened. 686 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it'll just be you know, bat soup or whatever. 687 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: But I doubt it. And there there's real blame to 688 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: go around here. But notice how our own media is 689 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: willing to part the talking points of China and of 690 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: course to take the side of doctor Tedro's here, who, 691 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: as we know, was advocating for Mugabe as a goodwill ambassador. 692 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, was you know, was Satan himself 693 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: unavailable for your good will needs? I just want to know, 694 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, you couldn't get you couldn't get ted Kazinski 695 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: to be your goodwill ambassador. You know you could think 696 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: about this, this is who you're gonna. You're gonna You're 697 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: put Gabe forward as a ted Rose's idea, big, big 698 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: proponent of it. Yeah, let's get that murderous dictator psychopath 699 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: there will represent the World Health Organization and the UN 700 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: on the world's state. I mean, my frenzy, part of 701 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: the problem here is that we all have to this 702 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: is just ingrained in the whole UN structure. And look, 703 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: there's the UN Security Council. There is some disparity and 704 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: there should be among the powers that are and the 705 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: real decision making of that body. But let's also remember 706 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: the UN really has no authority, does not prevent conflicts, 707 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: does not successfully intervene. If you want to know how 708 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: good the UN is at its job, I remember the 709 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: World Health Organization is a part of the UN. All 710 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: you have to do is just go look at look 711 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: at the Rwandan genocide and what the UN decided to 712 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: do there. UN basically was like, oh wow, this is 713 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: going to get really horrific and there's going to be 714 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 1: mass murder on an unprecedented scale in terms of the speed. 715 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: The speed of murder in the Rwan genocide was like 716 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 1: nothing else we had seen. And where are UN pulled out? 717 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: UN's like, whoa, that's gonna get really bad. We don't 718 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: want to be anywhere near that. And God bless some 719 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: of the you know, some of the peacekeepers and some 720 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: of the folks who stayed behind and save lives. But 721 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: UN was saying, nope, sorry, you know, because the part 722 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 1: of the problem here is that they they treat countries 723 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: as though they're all all sovereigns, are pushing for the 724 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: same basic things and operating from the same essential place 725 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: of decency and morality. That's just a lie. It's just 726 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: a lie. You know. The Venezuelan government is a bunch 727 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: of dictator thugs. They are not good people. No one 728 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: even seems to care that Maduro now has effectively a 729 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: bounty on his head as as a narco trafficker. I 730 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: think that's that's how crazy the world has gotten. No 731 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: one even notices that think about that. It's going to 732 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: be if someone takes him down. What a movie you 733 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: put together? You know, a team of mercenary somewhere and 734 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: you capture Maduro and bring him in. You get ten 735 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: million dollars twenty million what. I don't know what the 736 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: bounty is, but it's big. There's a movie there, my friends, 737 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: that's for sure. But back to the World Health Organization, 738 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, there are going to 739 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: be people who pretend to care so much about the 740 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: who's work, but in reality their issue is just that 741 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: they don't want any blame to be diffused away from 742 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. That's their main issue. And Secretary State Pompeo, 743 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: who look, I don't mean to who's my favorite member 744 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration cabinet? You know, I mean Pompeo 745 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: is great. Pompeo is like my number, you know for 746 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: the X Men. I've grown up as a kid. I 747 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: was always a Wolverine guy, but Gambit was actually my 748 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: number two. I was a big Gambit fan. Did you 749 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: like producer Mark? Did you know comics? Were you a 750 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: comics guy? Occasionally? I like the movies more than I 751 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: like the comics. Yeah, so I was a Gambit guy. 752 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: He was my number two, and Wolverine was my number one. 753 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: For the X Men, right, I mean, obviously, who like 754 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: Cyclops is like a Hall monitor. Don't you get me started. 755 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: You can't even see the guy's face. So Pompeio is 756 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: my number two in the cabinet if I have to pick, 757 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: and Bar is still number one for me. As you know, 758 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fanboy over a three general Bar. 759 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: But the guy probably saved the Trump presidency and he 760 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: slaps around libs like there's no tomorrow. But here's Pompeo 761 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: talking about the World Health Organization. Play it, Oh, this 762 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: is what the President was talking about today. We need 763 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: to know answers to these things. We still have this 764 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: virus out there. You talked about trying to get the 765 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: economy going, not only here in the United States but 766 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: around the world. We need answers to these questions. We 767 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: need transparency, and we need the World Health Organization to 768 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: do it's job, to perform it's primary function, which is 769 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: to make sure that the world has accurate, timely, effective, 770 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: real information about what's going on in the global health space. 771 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: And they didn't get that done here. So shouldn't accountability matter? 772 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 1: We keep being we're keeping told that lives are at stake. 773 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Jennifer Reuben, who I don't even know how 774 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: many of you know, or she writes the Washington Post. 775 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: She's hey quote conservative, She's the most left wing conservative 776 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. I mean, she really does. 777 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: It's it's remarkable. There are people who their careers are 778 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: built on saying that they are They share ideals and 779 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: ideas with you and me, and then every day they 780 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: just trash those ideas and ideals and everybody on our 781 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: side for the amusement of the other side. And I 782 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: can't imagine, I can't imagine anything in the media that's 783 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: more intellectually debasing than that. I mean, I know they're 784 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: paying her, probably very well to write those columns. I 785 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: know that Joe Scarborough gets paid millions of dollars to 786 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: do the same thing. At MSNBC. But I just feel 787 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: like it would be for a person of any conscience, 788 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: any any pride, it would be an issue. But no, 789 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: greed for most people completely overrides conscience and pride, and 790 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: you know, they just whatever they can. They want to 791 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 1: be important and they want to make money and nothing 792 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: else really matters. She says that Trump Trump, She's been 793 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: tweeting out how Trump is killing people. That's her. They're 794 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: just saying, I forget, the blood on his hands is 795 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: a little bit too, so it's too metaphorical for them. 796 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: So they're just saying Trump is killing people. Now. That's 797 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: what they've gone to. That he's effectively making decisions that 798 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: are actively murdering people as a result of this COVID nineteen. 799 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: He's like the mafia don that's giving the orders, so 800 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: he might as well have pulled the trigger himself, so 801 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: to speak. That that's where we are now with the left. 802 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: But if that's the language they're going to use, I 803 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: just want to know what about the world What about 804 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: doctor Tedro's the World Health Organization? What would it have 805 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: meant if they had said no, no China, Hold on 806 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: a second, we need samples here, we need more information. 807 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: We need more transparency, and they were able to ring 808 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 1: the alarm for the whole world. Guys, this is really 809 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: contagious and more dangerous than you realize, and they're not 810 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: going to be able to contain it in China. How 811 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: much pain and misery and economic devastation could that have 812 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: saved us from? But no, no, no no, no accountability. We 813 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: are told no accountability for the World Health Organization is allowed. Remember, 814 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: this is pending a review. Maybe the review shows I mean, 815 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: I doubt it, but maybe the review shows that they 816 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: did the best they could under the circumstances. In US 817 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: funding for this continues. Also, note that we're giving them 818 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars a year, and we try 819 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: to run to find out that we don't have enough 820 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: masks and ventilators for frontline medical providers. Hundreds of millions 821 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: of dollars buys a lot of masks, buys a lot 822 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: of ventilators, buys a lot of necessary You know, there 823 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: are a whole lot of drugs, I mean things. When 824 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: you get into the details of the procedures that we're 825 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: using right now that are trying to keep people alive 826 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 1: dealing with the heart complications of COVID nineteen for ICU 827 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: patients dealing with the pain, giving people morphine, all these 828 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: different components, and you realize that material and supply matters 829 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: in this fight. We're giving one hundreds of millions of 830 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: dollars to the World Health Organization. You know, maybe that 831 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: money should come from somebody else, not saying we shouldn't 832 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: give them any money, but you know, are we allowed 833 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: to evaluate these priorities. China has a billion people, and 834 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: we're giving ten times the money that China is giving. 835 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: Does that seem fair? Well? China has a lot more. 836 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: You know, China got to essentially pick the head of 837 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: the who doctor Tedro's big push for that, and we 838 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: all see what that has meant in terms of the 839 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: way that they were willing to be accompliced to the 840 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: Chinese fraud in the early days of covering up this virus, 841 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: what was going on. And we are all still you 842 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: and I are paying the price for this right now. 843 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: Your freedom, your livelihood, your safety, your future, and your 844 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: families are all damaged right now because of what China 845 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: did and what the World Health Organization helped them. Do. 846 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: I do believe that there should be some degree of 847 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: accountability for that. I do believe that that's not something 848 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: that we should just forgive and forget. Will they ever change? 849 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: Will they get better? At the WHO? Well, here's what 850 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: Trump says played thirteen. We will continue to engage with 851 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: the WHO to see if it can make meaningful reforms. 852 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: For the time being, we will redirect global health and 853 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: directly work with others. All of the aid that we 854 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: send will be discussed at very very powerful level letters 855 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: and with very powerful and influential groups and smart groups medically, politically, 856 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: and every other way. And we'll be discussing it with 857 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: other countries and global health partners. What we do with 858 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: all of that money that goes to WHO, And maybe 859 00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: WHO will reform and maybe they won't. You're in the 860 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: Freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sex and Show podcast. 861 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: This should not stop you from going about your life. 862 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: Should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going 863 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: out to eat. I'm going to do that today myself. 864 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: Come to Chinatown. Here we are. We're again careful safe 865 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: and come join us. There is no concern at this 866 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: time for coronavirus in our region. The Department of Sanitation 867 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: is ready for Martykras twenty twenty. The facts are reassuring. 868 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: We want New Yorkers to go about their daily lives, 869 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: but there's really no need to panic and to avoid 870 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: activities that we always do as New Yorkers. We are 871 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: hardy people. Americans do not need to panic. What I 872 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: would suggest, however, is that Americans take this as a 873 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: wake up call for seasonal flu. There's very little threat here. 874 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: This disease, even if it were to get it basically 875 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: acts like a common cold or flut. Uh. There you 876 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: had leaders from the cities that are the worst hit 877 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: by this so far, some of the city's the worst 878 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: hit by the San Francisco, not as badly, certainly as 879 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: New Orleans or New York, but telling us that they 880 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: that there's no problem. Go out, go go to the 881 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,319 Speaker 1: Go to the Chinese Lunar New Year festival in your town, 882 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: Go to the place where you were at that point 883 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: in time, perhaps most susceptible to come into contact with 884 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: travelers from China who were vectors for the spread of 885 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: this disease all over the world. That was what you 886 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: were being told. And I've got to tell you, some 887 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: of those same people, I'm in Pelosi has this video 888 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: that's circling circulating right now, and it's of her on 889 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: who's the who's the like British He's like, I got 890 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: like a high voice up here, and I'm a British comedian. 891 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 1: Who's that guy you're talking about? No, Now, Ricky Gervais 892 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: is awesome. This is a guy he's like. Oh, He's like, 893 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: I've gone late night talk show and I'm like, oh, 894 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: John Oliver, I look like I've had a lot of 895 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: put m m. No. Not. John Oliver is a different guy. 896 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: James Corden, Yes, James Cordon. Pelosi went on the James 897 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: Cordon Show. And she's doing this whole like, well, you know, 898 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: here we are in lockdown, and you know, look at 899 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: all the ice cream we have, and she's showing everybody 900 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: she's got quite an ice cream selection. Not part of 901 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,959 Speaker 1: me is jealous, but I just think it's funny because 902 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: Pelosi's one of these listening to the experts Lockdown Forever, 903 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: National Lockdown people. She lives in a multimillion dollars I mean, 904 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: I want to say it's like a ten maybe fifteen 905 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: million dollar house in the San Francisco Bay Area. She 906 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: lives in a mansion, a straight up mansion, and she's 907 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: doing this video that for those of us who know 908 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: anything about home appliances, I mean, I'm somebody who spends 909 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: a fair amount of time in the kitchen. She's in 910 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: front of what looked to be two Viking refrigerators. I 911 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: mean she's standing in front of I want to say, 912 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: fifty sixty thousand dollars of just appliances at her home. 913 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she's got the fanciest stuff you 914 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: can imagine, double Viking refrigerators, which, for those that know, 915 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars 916 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: in a kitchen pretty easily if you want to. I 917 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: know that's crazy, but believe it or not, that's a 918 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: thing that can happen pretty easily. If you're a rich 919 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: person you want to do that. So this is like 920 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: the equivalent of Nancy Pelosi, you know, driving around in 921 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: a Rolls Royce and flipping open the top of her 922 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: hagandad saying, oh, look at how delicious the ice cream is. 923 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 1: I'm being so good during my social distancing, and it's 924 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: just the most let them eat cake moment. I mean, 925 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 1: I see this stuff and I'm really reminded of why 926 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: in other eras and at other times the peasants just 927 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: get tired of it, show up in the town square 928 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,719 Speaker 1: with pitchforks and torches and say we're coming to pay 929 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,479 Speaker 1: a visit to the elites, this stuff that we see 930 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 1: going on here for the I can work at home. 931 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 1: I've got savings. Everything's fine for me. You know. Well, 932 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: one thing that is happening is, I mean, the media 933 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: industry is getting is in the process of getting completely 934 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: crushed because there's no there's very little sales going on, 935 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: and sales for advertising or necessary. So the media is 936 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: going to start to really feel this in the next 937 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: thirty to ninety and thirty to sixty days. But Pelosi 938 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,439 Speaker 1: wants you to know that, you know, she's got lots 939 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: of ice cream in her forty thousand dollars refrigerators. Thanks 940 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to 941 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you 942 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. All right, everybody, for your listening enjoyment. 943 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: We've got our friend Sean Davis back in the mix. 944 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,240 Speaker 1: He is co founder of The Federalist and his Twitter 945 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: game is fierce owning and triggering libs like it's going 946 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: out of style. To this day. We have Sean Davis 947 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: with us now, mister Davis, thanks for making the time, 948 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Let's start this man. So, the 949 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: big debate in the country right now, as we all know, 950 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: is when to reopen and what Trump's overall approach is 951 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: to get any going. Well, what are you what are 952 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: you seeing from your side as to what the media 953 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: treatment of this is versus what the reality of the 954 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: country and it's going through right now. Yes, well, I 955 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: think that's a really difficult question because I don't think 956 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 1: everyone is going through the same thing at the same time. 957 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: As we've seen in this pandemic, it seems to be 958 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: pretty localized or regionalized. Some places haven't had any issue 959 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,399 Speaker 1: with it, other places like New York City have had 960 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: huge problems with it. And so I think the first 961 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: thing to establish is it really hasn't been a national pandemic, 962 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: at least not yet, and so you can't have a 963 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: national solution either to the spread of the pandemic or 964 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: the reopening of the economy. I think this all has 965 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: to be done kind of piecemeal, different places, different measures 966 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 1: at different times, and instead what you'r though, at least 967 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: from the media is if you talk about allowing people 968 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: to go back to work and provide for their families 969 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: at any point, what you're actually saying is you want 970 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: everyone to die. Right, Well, this is I've come up 971 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: against this. I'm sure. I'm sure you have two and 972 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: I always feel like one. There are decisions made all 973 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: the time. I mean, people drive to work. We could 974 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: tell everyone no more driving, and everyone dismisses this, but 975 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: I think it establishes a real principle though we need 976 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: to keep in mind, which is if we told people 977 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: no more driving to work, or just no more driving period, 978 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: it would save thirty to forty thousand lives every year. 979 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: If we forced everyone into public transportation or told you know, 980 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 1: if you weren't allowed to drive your own car, people 981 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: would just say no, not going to do that. The 982 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,919 Speaker 1: same thing would be true with the flu and any 983 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 1: year forty to sixty thousand people depends on the year, 984 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: but roughly forty to sixty thousand people die. We could 985 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: shut the economy down for even just a couple of 986 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: months to bring that curveway down. We don't. There are 987 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 1: decisions made that have risks risk mitigation as part of 988 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,080 Speaker 1: day to day life, but it sounds like fauci and 989 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,959 Speaker 1: I keep calling it the moving consensus, the moving consu 990 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: or maybe we should call it the lockdown consensus. The 991 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 1: lockdown consensus seems to be that we should just do 992 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: this for as long as we have to, until we 993 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: get to zero new cases. Sean, that means we're going 994 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: to be doing this for at least another year or 995 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: so at least. Well, yeah, that that's a call for 996 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: national suicide. And it's not credible, it's absurd, and I 997 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: actually think you're driving example is a good one. You'll 998 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: have people maum out and say, oh, you can't say 999 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: that this is a pandemic, this isn't like driving. But no. 1000 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: The principle is that we accept as a society trade 1001 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: off and risks and everything we do. So if you 1002 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: don't want to go shut down all the roads and 1003 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: all the highways, it means you want to die. You 1004 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 1: want people to die in cars. You have no problem 1005 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: with people dying in cars. That that's the argument that 1006 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: we're given by the lockdowners, and that's just not an adult, 1007 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: an argument that adults make. So you could eliminate driving desks, 1008 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: closed down the roads, stop selling any sort of high 1009 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: fat food, stop red meat, bacon, anything that contributes to 1010 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: heart disease, which is one of the biggest killers in 1011 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: America each year. You know, skin cancer huge threat. The 1012 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: older you get, the more likely you're going to have it. 1013 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: So we should probably just stop letting people go outside. 1014 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: So right there, we've gotten rid of car deaths, skin 1015 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: cancer deaths, or at least new ones or new cases 1016 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: heart disease. And of course you would hear that example 1017 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: of shutting all those things sounds say that's absurd, and 1018 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: that's because it is. So the question to me isn't 1019 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: should we reopen the economy? Of course we should. The 1020 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 1: question is what is the best way to do it, 1021 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: kind of in a staged scenario. How do you regionalize it, 1022 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: What do you open up first, What restrictions do you 1023 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: keep in place? Those are the discussions we should be having. 1024 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 1: But instead, what the Meata is saying is, if you 1025 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: want to discuss it at all, you hate your grandmother 1026 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: and you want everyone to die. And unfortunately, I don't 1027 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: know why I'm still here expecting like an adult discussion 1028 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: or a reasonable treatment from the media, but I am, 1029 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, somehow, I woke up this morning thinking maybe reasonable. 1030 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: And yet again one of one of my theory sewan 1031 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,919 Speaker 1: on this has been that if you were concocting a 1032 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: war gaming scenario to see if it would be possible 1033 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: for the national news media in general, there are always exceptions. 1034 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: That I like to say that because I've got friends 1035 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: who are journalists who do real work and do a 1036 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: good job. They're very very few of them though as 1037 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: a percentage. But if you were kind of trying to 1038 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 1: come up with a scenario where you would hope that 1039 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: the mainstream media would put aside the petty nonsense and 1040 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: do the jobs that they claim that they do, this 1041 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,479 Speaker 1: would be it. And what we see in those press 1042 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 1: conferences with Trump day in and day out, is is 1043 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: honestly appalling. It's horrific. And I mean, just go back 1044 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: two months when the think first started popping up in January, 1045 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:58,439 Speaker 1: CNN attacked Trump because his Pandemic Response task Force wasn't 1046 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: diverse enough, just to show you how serious they were. 1047 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 1: And then when he shut down travel from China, which 1048 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: was one of the biggest vectors for this disease and 1049 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 1: people coming in from China was how it's spread here, 1050 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: they said, oh, he's racist. And then a week after 1051 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: that to said, you know what, don't listen to Trump. 1052 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: You should go out and party in New York City 1053 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: on the Chinese. Oh we just played that audio before 1054 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: you came on, by the way, so everyone's familiar with 1055 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, So I mean, and oh no, no, 1056 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: stop wearing masks. To you, idiot, You're a moron if 1057 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: you go and wear a mask that wasn't an eon ago, 1058 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: that wasn't like a different generation, that was two months ago. 1059 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: So when you have those people saying those same things, 1060 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: and the same networks who said those now saying that o' 1061 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: trump didn't do enough and we have to lock down economy. 1062 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: These are not credible people. They're not reasonable, they're not serious. 1063 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: In a normal, well functioning, well adjusted society, we would 1064 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: dismiss those people as cranks and nut jobs. And yet 1065 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 1: here we are basically hostage to whatever they want to 1066 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: talk about it every day. It is. It's really disheartening. 1067 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Sean Davis, co founder of the Federalist 1068 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: of Federalist dot com, as you all know, one of 1069 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: my favorite sites for commentary. Sean, the China situation here, 1070 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 1: there was a piece and I should probably I'll come 1071 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 1: back and read from it so everyone can hear it. 1072 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Later on, there was a piece where CNN ran as 1073 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: a news item that the I think it was the 1074 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: Chinese You know that the People's Navy of China or 1075 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 1: whatever it is they call them the navy there, the 1076 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: People's Republic of China Navy was doing a better job 1077 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: controlling coronavirus than we were. And it comes from a 1078 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: straight up state media, state media site of China. And 1079 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: you wonder, at what point do people feel like our 1080 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: own media is grotesque in its propagation of this of 1081 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: these Chinese state narratives. But I suppose that then also 1082 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: gets wrapped into as long as it is useful for 1083 01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: in some purpose for bashing Trump, the CNN audience doesn't mind. Right, Yeah, Well, 1084 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: do you know the story I'm talking about, By the way, 1085 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable. Yeah, it was the PLA Andavy, like 1086 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 1: the People's Liberation eight or something like that. Yeah, they 1087 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: took it directly from a Chinese news site. We've seen 1088 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: the same thing from NBC, which is owned by Comcast, 1089 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 1: and I keep wondering every time they go out pa 1090 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: at Chinese propaganda, what exactly is Comcast trying to do 1091 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: in China. And I'll tell you when when Trump a 1092 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: couple of years ago started his fake news as the 1093 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: enemy of the people rhetoric at the time. You know, 1094 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm all for media bashing. I've got no problem with it, 1095 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: because they're imminently bashable. But the enemy of the people 1096 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: think kind of made me uncomfortable. And I'll tell you what. 1097 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Having watched their behavior through this and watched them flack 1098 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: for China and pedal communist Chinese propaganda, watched them run 1099 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: interference for the China Communist Control World Health Organization, I'm 1100 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: coming around to the enemy of the people Moniker. Yeah, 1101 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: i'd been saying the enemy of truth. That's sort of 1102 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 1: a modification Trump's line. But I agree with you that 1103 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: right now, if you don't feel a surge of anger 1104 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: at the again, and I always say this, it's a 1105 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: it's against the Chinese ruling class and Chinese Communist Party 1106 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: and military. It's not against the you know, the people 1107 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: of China. But if you don't feel a surge of 1108 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: anger against those institutions and that that communist thugocracy, what 1109 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: the heck is going on with you? I mean, you know, 1110 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: we're to point now where the country is in greater 1111 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: jeopardy than it has been in the in the post 1112 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: World War two era. I think that's fair, a fair 1113 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: way to look at this. And yet there's not a 1114 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: surge of patriotism from certainly from our press. It seems 1115 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: like there are a lot of people that have the 1116 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: the partisan impulse up to and including helping the Chinese 1117 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: narrative at a point when Chinese US relations are deteriorating 1118 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: more rapidly than ever, and I think as they should. 1119 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: What do you make of the of the suspension of 1120 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: money pending investigation of the who we were just talking 1121 01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: about that, Um, I'm I'm fine with it, uh scepting 1122 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: the pending investigation cut them off. They were peddling nonsense. 1123 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: They were peddling stuff they knew wasn't true, that there 1124 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: was no human to human transmission, Their lies in China's lies, 1125 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 1: in addition to whatever China did to allow this thing 1126 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: to get let loose. It is absolutely unconscionable. We have 1127 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 1: a world now being held hostage, both medically and economically 1128 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 1: by either the malevolence or the incompetence of China and 1129 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: their little puppet control magime at the World Health organization. 1130 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: I say, defund them entirely. And by the way, don't 1131 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: stop there. All the money that we owe China. I 1132 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 1: think they own something like a trillion of our debt. Yeah, 1133 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: that's gone. That should never be paid back by a 1134 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 1: dime of American money ever. Again because of the damage 1135 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 1: that those corrupt commies caused through their coronavirus. We're going 1136 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: to continue with Sean Davis. You're talking about some of 1137 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: the domestic issues that are rising up as we're in 1138 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: national lockdown. Here, stay with us, You're in the freedom Hunt. 1139 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, everyone, 1140 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: We're talking to Sean Davis, co founder of The Federalist. 1141 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: He writes there also, if you happen to be on 1142 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Twitter and you want to see somebody crush crushed libs 1143 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: with reckless abandon follow Sean Davis on Twitter. Sean, I 1144 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 1: had been led to believe. I'm not gonna say I 1145 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: had thought. I'd been led to believe that we were 1146 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: the land of the free, of the home of the brave. 1147 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: Give me liberty or give me death, don't tread on me. 1148 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 1: These are all things that I had internalized over many 1149 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: years of life and felt that I had seen in 1150 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: action with our military abroad, for example, and the American 1151 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,840 Speaker 1: spirit at its best. But now we're facing this pandemic 1152 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's Land of the Free, 1153 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: home of the brave, unless somebody waves a doctor's note 1154 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: in our faces and says, you all have to stay 1155 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 1: home until we say you can leave your house. You 1156 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: can't go to church, you can't see friends, you can't 1157 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: go to other houses that you own. I got a 1158 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 1: problem with that. What do you think of all this? Yeah, 1159 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 1: it's been kind of disc inserting. Now, I'll say from 1160 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: the outset, the American people were generally free. We're independent minded, 1161 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: but we're also pretty compassionate. We care about our neighbors, 1162 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: we care about our family. And I think what you've 1163 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 1: seen in a lot of this is in various areas 1164 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: as government officials taking advantage of the good faith efforts 1165 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 1: and the charity and compassion of their citizens. And I 1166 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 1: think one reason you've seen the social dissecing work well 1167 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: isn't because of government. It's because of people's desire to 1168 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: take care of their families and their neighbors. Now, with 1169 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: that said, there's a limit to it, and I think 1170 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: we're getting pretty close to it. In Kentucky, you had 1171 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: the governor sending the state police after people who were 1172 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 1: going to drive in church. Now they could go to 1173 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: a drive in liquor store, and they could go walk 1174 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 1: around a grocery store, but they couldn't sit in their 1175 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: cars and go to church. And Raleigh, North Carolina, you 1176 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: had protests there and you had the police actually come 1177 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: out and say, quote, protesting is not an essential activity, 1178 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: as if somehow the constitute had been suspended. And then 1179 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 1: now you have in Michigan where you have this incompetent 1180 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: governor up there banning the sale of things like seeds 1181 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 1: and infant car seats, saying those are non essential. That 1182 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 1: there is going to come a point, I think, sooner 1183 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: rather than later, that the patience of the American people 1184 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 1: with this is going to be completely run out and 1185 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: we're going to start having issues. And in fact, in Lansing, Michigan, 1186 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: a day, you're having significant protests by people in their 1187 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: cars driving around the capitol to the tune of thousands 1188 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: of them. People's patiences are running out soon, and they're 1189 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 1: willingness to be subjugated by tyrannical government officials. I think 1190 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 1: is going to run out. Well, that's exactly that's what 1191 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out here. I mean, I understand, 1192 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: and I'm here in New York where we've just been 1193 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 1: annihilated by this thing right now. We are in such 1194 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: bad shape as a city because of this. And I've 1195 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: got friends who are nurses and doctors who are trying 1196 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 1: to do their best to keep people alive and try 1197 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: to push through all of this. And it's a very 1198 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 1: bad scene. We understand all that, But I'm just in 1199 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: certain areas. I think it's what bothers me. Isn't that 1200 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 1: there's this uh, well, isn't when people are acting, anyone 1201 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 1: acting in good faith based on government instruction to try 1202 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: to keep people safe and alive. I get that. But 1203 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 1: when the government does overreach and we all see it, 1204 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,880 Speaker 1: and then people say, well, hold on a second, that's 1205 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 1: really not necessary. The lockdown chorus sometimes jumps in and says, 1206 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 1: why are you all so stupid? Why do you need 1207 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: to go to a drive in church. That's the part 1208 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: of this that I think starts to really unsettle me, 1209 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,600 Speaker 1: as if, like, there really are people that seem to 1210 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: think that a quote benevolent authoritarianism from the US government 1211 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 1: or from state governments really is actually what's been doing 1212 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 1: this from state governments would be a good thing. That's 1213 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 1: that's disconcerting. Yeah, it's interesting from the lockdown crowd, I've 1214 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,599 Speaker 1: noticed that all of them still have their jobs, which 1215 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: which puts them in a very unique bubble for them. 1216 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: And I would suggest that they need to talk to 1217 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 1: more people and expose themselves to them to some more 1218 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: news sources. Because while if you are a journalist who 1219 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: can sit at home and his or her pajamas and 1220 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 1: still get paid and work on his computer, you don't 1221 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 1: have kids to home school, you generally had all your 1222 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 1: food delivered to you anyway, because you're a social hermit. 1223 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: Those folks need to consider for a moment that maybe 1224 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,679 Speaker 1: not the rest of America is having the same experience. 1225 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Maybe the rest of America isn't sitting around and netflixing 1226 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 1: and chilling during this quarantine. Maybe they're worried about whether 1227 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 1: they can afford food for their families, where they're going 1228 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 1: to find another job, if they're ever going to be 1229 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: let out of their homes to earn a paycheck in 1230 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 1: a livelihood to provide for themselves and their families. And 1231 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 1: I think far too few people in media are thinking 1232 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: through the consequences of a situation where ten twenty thirty 1233 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: million people have been forcibly put out of work, have 1234 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: been locked in their homes, and then with a cherry 1235 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,799 Speaker 1: on top, they have been banned from worshiping is required 1236 01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: by their doctrines and their religious rules. It is really 1237 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 1: unconscionable how little empathy and sympathy we're seeing from anyone 1238 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 1: in the national media about what people are going through 1239 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 1: when they've lost their jobs and they've lost their freedom 1240 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,679 Speaker 1: and they can't even worsher And I'm just wondering, why, 1241 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: why is it not more apparent what the projections would be. 1242 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: I think people because there are those who believe that 1243 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 1: we should just be in lockdown until September. For example, 1244 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: the Hime models go until August. Why don't we all know? 1245 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 1: And we all got about a minute show. But I 1246 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: just want your your take here on why do we 1247 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 1: not know what the economy is supposed to look like 1248 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,640 Speaker 1: if we keep doing this for three more months? I 1249 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: think we should know. Oh, I think there's a lot 1250 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: of a willful ignorance going on from the media. Now. Now, 1251 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 1: first off, let's not pretend the epidemiologists cranking out these 1252 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: garbage models have any clue what's going to happen with 1253 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,560 Speaker 1: this pandemic. They actually don't. Their models have proven it. 1254 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 1: The economic modeling is actually a lot easier. It's kind 1255 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: of like modeling what happens to your sprinklers when you 1256 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: turn the water off. It turns out there's no water, 1257 01:10:58,439 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: and after a while your grass is going to do 1258 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 1: and an economy is no different. Yeah, that's what I've 1259 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: been saying, that they're really able to model. They know 1260 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: what the trajectory is. It just a case where they 1261 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 1: have to try to guess what it is. Sean, we 1262 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 1: know you're out there in a red state. We want 1263 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 1: to hear our things we go and so come back 1264 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: and tell us what you're hearing from from the folks 1265 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,680 Speaker 1: in your AO, because here in New York City it's 1266 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: easy to get a very very specific view of things. 1267 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: But Sean Davis or the Federalist, everybody check out the 1268 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: Federalist dot com. Sean, thanks so much for your time. 1269 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: You stay safe, take care of yours always a pleasure. 1270 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck. Thanks for listening to the bus Stson 1271 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, 1272 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we are stuck, 1273 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 1: as you know, in National Lockdown, but that doesn't mean 1274 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 1: we can't get some of our favorite voices here on 1275 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 1: the show. We just had our buddy Sean Davis. Now 1276 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 1: we've got David Harsany in the mix. He is a 1277 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: senior writer act National Review. Mister Harsany, good to have 1278 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 1: you on, Sir to Beyond, Thanks for having me. I 1279 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 1: want to start with some of the political stuff right now. 1280 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 1: We've been talking so much pandemic here the show, and 1281 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,679 Speaker 1: you know, there's only only so much of that anybody 1282 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I think can take. So I wanted to switch it, 1283 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 1: switch it around, and get into some of the because 1284 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: there is still a presidential election coming up. What did 1285 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 1: you make of the New York Times explanation of why 1286 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: it took them two weeks to cover the sexual assault 1287 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 1: allegations against Joe Biden. I thought that was it was remarkable, 1288 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: even though I expected, I expected double standard from them. 1289 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,639 Speaker 1: At this point. It's not possible to be an intelligent 1290 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,200 Speaker 1: human being and say, oh no, this was an honest 1291 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,560 Speaker 1: this was an honest difference of opinion. But what say you. 1292 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I laughed out loud reading it, 1293 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 1: and that's a rare thing, and I mean that I did. 1294 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: But you know, what's interesting to me actually is that 1295 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 1: they covered the Biden terror read accusations the way a 1296 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: story like that should be covered, right, Yeah, which you go, 1297 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: you look at the you look to see if there's 1298 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,040 Speaker 1: any credibility to the person, you know, to the to 1299 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 1: the accusations, but to the person if they're you know, 1300 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 1: and you lay it out fairly. But that's obviously not 1301 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 1: what they did with Kavanaugh when they relayed every rumor 1302 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 1: and every ridiculous accusation gang rape, et cetera that was 1303 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,599 Speaker 1: out there. So their explanation that the Kavanaugh, that Brett 1304 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh was within the public forum and we needed to 1305 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,040 Speaker 1: talk to him. But a guy who's been a senator 1306 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy two, was vice president and it could 1307 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: be the president of the United States doesn't deserve the 1308 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:31,600 Speaker 1: same sort of scrutiny as It's just ridiculous. And I 1309 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 1: mean I used to read I think I mentioned this 1310 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 1: to you. I used to read The New York Times 1311 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 1: to a prism because I realized they were biased. But 1312 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: now after seeing like the Twitter mob make them change 1313 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 1: their headlines and in this story, make them change the 1314 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: Biden campaign calling and making them actually edit a line 1315 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,560 Speaker 1: out makes me realize that they're just an organ of 1316 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party completely, and it's it's kind of a 1317 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,400 Speaker 1: shame because the products not. Yeah, I grew up reading 1318 01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 1: the New York Times. I mean that was the paper 1319 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: that I I turned to. As I've gotten older and 1320 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, have some minor investments. I've been more of 1321 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,679 Speaker 1: a Wall Street journal guy. But the New York Times 1322 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,640 Speaker 1: has been has been something that I've been reading for 1323 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: a very long time. I think it has gotten crazier. 1324 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: It'd be fun if I could get you and Michael 1325 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: Malice in the same room because a debate than Michael 1326 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 1: Malice and I keep having when I've done his show. 1327 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you even know who that is, 1328 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: But is that he thinks that the media has always 1329 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,600 Speaker 1: been this bad, we just know it now because of 1330 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 1: all the difference. My theory is that no, they've actually 1331 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 1: in the air of Trump, they've actually gotten crazier, like 1332 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 1: He's broken them. So we go back and forth on this, 1333 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 1: but the New York Times is certainly worse than it's 1334 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: ever been, as evidenced by the line, the line that 1335 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,640 Speaker 1: they removed, which was other than I mean, I'm paraphrasing, 1336 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 1: but this was a line, you know what I'm talking about, 1337 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: other than unwanted kissing, touching and hugging. There was nothing. 1338 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 1: There was like, no problem with Joe Biden's conduct, and 1339 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 1: they had they actually wrote that a fifty year trail 1340 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: of unwanted advance of that seems fine. It was. Yeah, 1341 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I actually think the media was worth 1342 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 1: just the quickly said. I do think the media has 1343 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 1: always been bad, like I do, don't you know, I 1344 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 1: don't get the adoration for like Walter Cronkite or whoever. 1345 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I think those guys were biased as well, but I 1346 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 1: think they did a better job of it, worked harder 1347 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 1: to hide it than biased. Yeah, and I do think 1348 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,760 Speaker 1: it's gotten worse because Trump has sort of allowed them 1349 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 1: because he is just like them, and he takes them 1350 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,639 Speaker 1: on in the same way that they act. I think 1351 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: it's allowed them to be more open about their hatred 1352 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 1: and pretend it's about Trump when obviously it's about you know, 1353 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 1: people of faith or you know, Republicans in general. I'm 1354 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna tell Malice, I think you're you're on team Mallots 1355 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 1: on this one, which is fine. I still feel like Trump, 1356 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, because they're also see this is the data 1357 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 1: point I would give you. There are conservatives or former 1358 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: well conservatives slash former conservatives who I would argue have 1359 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,160 Speaker 1: kind of lost their minds in the era of Trump. 1360 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,680 Speaker 1: So I would put them on the side of he 1361 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: has changed people. But no, no, I mean, I'm did 1362 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 1: you see the Jennifer Rubin thing that he's just he's 1363 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: actually killing people? That's now her line. Yeah. I don't 1364 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 1: think that you'd have people like Jennifer Rubin or Max 1365 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Boot or that whole industry of people who pretend to 1366 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 1: be conservatives, you know, who have turned on Trump allowed 1367 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: in a place in an institution like the Washington Post. 1368 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like George Wood. I make a 1369 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 1: distinction between never trumpers who make arguments and don't. So 1370 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: George will writes a column and he makes an argument, right. 1371 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 1: I believe that's true of other folks as well. Joanah Goldberg, 1372 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 1: David French. I mean you might disagree with them, but 1373 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: I think they're making arguments. And then you have sort 1374 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 1: of the genera for Rubens and Max Boots, where their 1375 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: argument just as Trump, you know Trump is bad, so 1376 01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: this is bad. I will defend China because Trump is bad, 1377 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,080 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. They don't make an argument. I don't. 1378 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you would have seen that kind of 1379 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 1: columnist in a major newsment. What do you think of 1380 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 1: getting back onto on the Biden issue for a second, 1381 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 1: because you know, now he is he is the nominee, 1382 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 1: and it's remarkable given how many candidates they had that 1383 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 1: now I feel like, how could anyone avoid the conclusion 1384 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 1: that he's the the default candidate to leave behind candidate 1385 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean the guy, he's the last one standing and 1386 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: not in a good way after they had twenty people 1387 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,640 Speaker 1: come forward. Do you see I mean, how do you 1388 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,760 Speaker 1: see this already shaking up? I know, the one the 1389 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 1: midst of a pandemic. And so depending on how this 1390 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 1: goes with the economy everything else, a tongue will change. 1391 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, every always says them about politics, but the 1392 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 1: next six months really are who knows, but just Biden 1393 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 1: as a political figure matching up against Trump. How do 1394 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,040 Speaker 1: you see that? I think you can win because I 1395 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,719 Speaker 1: think most people said I don't think the candidate matters. 1396 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 1: Most people vote party line and they have their you know, 1397 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,680 Speaker 1: they hate the other candidate whatever is. But I do 1398 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: think it also is a week week politician. And he's 1399 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,719 Speaker 1: never been a good politician. He was in a safe, 1400 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: small state. Essentially, he was winning like a congressional race 1401 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 1: every six years. He's never been impressive in any way. 1402 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 1: You know, he's out one before I think he ever 1403 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 1: wanted to delegate. So I don't think he's very impressive. 1404 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 1: And I do think that age matters. And this is 1405 01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 1: not a matter of agism, it's just a matter of fact. 1406 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he is not what he used to be, 1407 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,439 Speaker 1: and what he used to be wasn't great, right, So 1408 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,759 Speaker 1: I think he's a poor guy as a candidate. However, 1409 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,720 Speaker 1: I think the Democratic Party has have these factions, uh 1410 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 1: you know, the left or right, but other are sort 1411 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: of one or two issue voting fashions that that are 1412 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 1: hard to bring together. So they needed to just get 1413 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: behind the guy who they thought had the best chance 1414 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,719 Speaker 1: of winning. And maybe Biden is that guy. To make predictions, 1415 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 1: but I think of out of who we saw, he 1416 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 1: was probably the guy best situated to win. A sort 1417 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 1: of populist, old fashioned democrat, who can you know, take 1418 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 1: on Trump maybe on the same sort of ground. I 1419 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see. How would you assess? And you know, 1420 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 1: I bring you an so I know you you're you're 1421 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 1: a balls and strikes guy with Trump. You know you're 1422 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 1: not You're a You're not an Oh. Trump is always playing. 1423 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 1: I think it's now gone up to fifteen D chess. 1424 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 1: It was four D chess. But you know, the d's 1425 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: keep they keep atting them up over time now. But 1426 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:59,000 Speaker 1: how would you assess, you know, the the political what 1427 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,840 Speaker 1: he has done in response to this pandemic and where 1428 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,600 Speaker 1: that puts him politically, just you know, just looking at 1429 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,639 Speaker 1: it from that angle, how do you think he's doing? 1430 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think that he started off slowly. I 1431 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: think he was a little too flippant about what might 1432 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 1: have been coming, Like I don't expect that he should 1433 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,920 Speaker 1: have known what was coming. I don't really blame people 1434 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 1: for their late reaction to this, frankly, and that goes 1435 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 1: for like the media, Cuomo, even Deblasio in some ways, 1436 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: or Trump. I think how you react is what matters. 1437 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: And I think he reacted pretty well after that, so 1438 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 1: good on the actions, but the message, the messaging, you 1439 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 1: think was a little he was a little loosey, loosey 1440 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: goosey with you know, it's going to go away, because 1441 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: that's going to come back. It certainly in the in 1442 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 1: the general election contest. Rights just a stupid thing to 1443 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: say because you don't know, and so it's better just 1444 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 1: to be, you know, safe, judicious about things like that. 1445 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: But whatever the case, I think that how as a matter, 1446 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: as a political matter, the I think that if we 1447 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: recover and the deaths aren't as high as as we 1448 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 1: had feared, and obviously it's still just a terrible thing 1449 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,719 Speaker 1: that's going on, but I think that that it won't 1450 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,720 Speaker 1: change that much for him, obviously, you know, and I 1451 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 1: know that Tamarrow could bring some new crazy scandal. I 1452 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 1: don't know what's coming. But as of right now, I 1453 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 1: think he's done a decent job for him. I think 1454 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,679 Speaker 1: these press conferences were very helpful in the beginning. Maybe 1455 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,640 Speaker 1: they've gone off the rails a little bit, but I 1456 01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 1: just don't think that the average American is hanging on 1457 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 1: every press conference in every word in the way that 1458 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: the Twitter Twitter verse is. So I just I think 1459 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,680 Speaker 1: it's I give him, like a bee, you know, as 1460 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 1: a great I guess, yeah, and on those press conferences, 1461 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,600 Speaker 1: I guess I should never be surprised by this, but 1462 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: the ability of some members of the press to turn 1463 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,360 Speaker 1: a moment of true national crisis where information does matter 1464 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 1: into orange man was mean to me. And let's all 1465 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 1: talk about this and have this trend on Twitter. I 1466 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: know that for ninety five percent of the country this 1467 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,200 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, But for the five percent that thinks that 1468 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: they're the ones determining what the news is on any 1469 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 1: given day, it is just stunning that we're supposed to 1470 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 1: care that Like Trump basically told some punk journalists to 1471 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,639 Speaker 1: shut up, Like I just don't care. And I find 1472 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,600 Speaker 1: it amazing that so many people within the sphere of 1473 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 1: journalism and the media do care. Well. I mean, you 1474 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 1: have Trump played as a video of the press, you know, 1475 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,880 Speaker 1: also playing coronavirus, which it's probably not something you should 1476 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,679 Speaker 1: do in that forum, but I found it pretty funny. 1477 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,680 Speaker 1: I found it funny. Thing is, yeah, everyone's like, you know, 1478 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,439 Speaker 1: roll clutching, everyone's going bananas. But the truth of the 1479 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: matter is a lot of the media spend most of 1480 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: their time doing the same exact thing with the same 1481 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 1: exact kind of gotchas except against him. He basically just 1482 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 1: turned the tables on them. We waste so much time 1483 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,680 Speaker 1: on that. Even now on Twitter, reporter after reporter, all 1484 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 1: they do is go back till match up the dates 1485 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,719 Speaker 1: to when you know, the World Health Organization was saying 1486 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 1: something and when Trump was saying something. I'm not saying 1487 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,679 Speaker 1: that's not completely you know, it's important to some extent, 1488 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: but to make that the mission and the bulk of 1489 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 1: what you talk about, it's such a waste of time. 1490 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,679 Speaker 1: And I just don't think that that will play well 1491 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 1: overall with most of oders. I just don't think they 1492 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,960 Speaker 1: care that much about gods. How worried are you about 1493 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,880 Speaker 1: How worried are you about the You know, you're your 1494 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,680 Speaker 1: guy who is willing to say this is how I 1495 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 1: see it, and then you just sort of take the incoming. 1496 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,680 Speaker 1: How worried are you about the economy? Well, I mean, 1497 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm incredibly worried, right, Well, shouldn't we be? I think 1498 01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 1: that some extent there was nothing and I'm not an economists, 1499 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 1: but to some extent, you had no real underlying reason 1500 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:46,400 Speaker 1: for this to happen. It was some existential, un foreseeable 1501 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: virus that hit us. So you could recover probably very 1502 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,200 Speaker 1: fast once you're allowed to. But the longer it goes on, 1503 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: the more I wonder if there is going to be 1504 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,320 Speaker 1: some kind of irreparable damage done. We're not irreparable, but 1505 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, some long term damage. It's going to, you know, 1506 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,799 Speaker 1: put us into a long term recession. And it's very scary, 1507 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 1: and you know, and I hate to go out there 1508 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: and write like everyone needs to stay home and if 1509 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,080 Speaker 1: you leave your house, you're a terrible person, like I 1510 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 1: see a lot of people doing. Because I have a 1511 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 1: job still hopefully I will have a job, and it's 1512 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,639 Speaker 1: easy to say that from my position, but people whose 1513 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 1: life's work is being destroyed by this and who can't 1514 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,759 Speaker 1: support their families anymore and may lose their houses, et cetera. 1515 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 1: This is one of the most devastating things I think 1516 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 1: that's happened in economically to this country, certainly since I've 1517 01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 1: been a lot. I just want to have you seen. 1518 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 1: Do you do you have you know, friends contacts that 1519 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,920 Speaker 1: are either entrepreneurs or small business owners, and are you 1520 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,679 Speaker 1: have you been speaking to folks where they're they're basically 1521 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, wiped out by this pending some government miracle. Yeah. 1522 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I know people who've lost their jobs, and 1523 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,200 Speaker 1: I know people who are in bad shape, you know, 1524 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,560 Speaker 1: and their businesses aren't really bad shape right now, and 1525 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 1: I think I think the hope is that when it ends, 1526 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 1: we all emerge and there's going to be just this 1527 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: huge upswing. I'm not sure that's the case. You think 1528 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,680 Speaker 1: about restaurants, like sometimes I walk go outside walk my dog, 1529 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: and they see other human beings and I'm like, you know, 1530 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 1: I avoid them. I don't want them near me. And 1531 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 1: I wonder we'll ever be able to go and shake 1532 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: someone's hand again or act normally. Like it's so foreign 1533 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 1: or ready to me to be able to do something 1534 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,760 Speaker 1: like that that I wonder how many people are going 1535 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: to go into a movie theater or a restaurant in 1536 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 1: the you know, in the next year or two, three, 1537 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 1: whatever and feel comfortable. So hopefully there's a vaccine and 1538 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 1: things change, But right now it's I'm pretty gloomy about it. 1539 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 1: But I'm also in another sense, watching Americans act without coersion, 1540 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 1: even though some people are trying to course them the 1541 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 1: right way together, is heartening. You don't see that on Twitter, 1542 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 1: but when you go out into the real world. I think, 1543 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's heartening to see that Americans are 1544 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 1: acting in a responsible way without being coerced and looking 1545 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,760 Speaker 1: out for each other. Yeah. Absolutely, David Harsani everybody, Senior 1546 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,560 Speaker 1: writer at Natural Review. David, thank you so much for 1547 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: joining us. We appreciate it, and stay safe and we'll 1548 01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,679 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Your tire, thanks for having You're 1549 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,480 Speaker 1: in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 1550 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: There was a briefing last week where he began to 1551 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 1: say that he was halting funding for the World Health Organization, 1552 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 1: and then he backpedaled away from that. So obviously they 1553 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,120 Speaker 1: feel like they've come up with a distraction to use 1554 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,479 Speaker 1: that today's briefing. Yesterday it was the news media. Today 1555 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,480 Speaker 1: it's the bho And if you go through the scapegoats 1556 01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,600 Speaker 1: that he's blamed so far for this coronavirus pandemic, the 1557 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,640 Speaker 1: whow members of the news media, Democrats in Congress, governors, 1558 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 1: he's blamed China, he's blamed the Obama administration, he's blamed 1559 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 1: everybody but himself and Wolf. It just comes to mind 1560 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,799 Speaker 1: what we saw yesterday during that briefing, that Monday meltdown 1561 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,920 Speaker 1: when he played that propaganda video in the White House 1562 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: briefing room. These briefings all together are coming across like 1563 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 1: something out of Baghdad, Bob. You know, I feel like 1564 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 1: Jim coast to you know, his great personal hero is 1565 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 1: back Dad, Bob, So to invoke him in this way 1566 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 1: is not not surprising. I just I had to play 1567 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 1: that for you sure enough, you know CNN and still 1568 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,600 Speaker 1: still clinging to the fiction that they're just there to 1569 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 1: bring you the truth in the facts. I don't know 1570 01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 1: when everyone's gonna just and I mean their audience. I 1571 01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:19,439 Speaker 1: know you know this, but I don't know when their 1572 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,560 Speaker 1: audience is going to realize, all right, this is just 1573 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 1: a joke. Is it just too much? We can't we 1574 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,720 Speaker 1: can't do that, you know. And also, David Arsani, they're talking, 1575 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,960 Speaker 1: do we play the Trump handshaker clip mark? Do you 1576 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 1: already play that one? I can't remember now. I don't 1577 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 1: know that people are going to be shaking hands as readily. 1578 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,840 Speaker 1: Some will. I said to some of the hospital people today, 1579 01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,760 Speaker 1: So will people be shaking hands again? And I must 1580 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,679 Speaker 1: say I was a little surprised. Most of them said, 1581 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 1: probably because there is some kind of a thing to it. 1582 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I was never a big handshaker. But when I ran 1583 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 1: for politics, I said, I think I better start checking 1584 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,400 Speaker 1: people's hand. Where are you producer mark on the shaking hands? 1585 01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,600 Speaker 1: I people seem to have very strong I mean, I 1586 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,519 Speaker 1: don't mean right now. I mean let's say we get 1587 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,679 Speaker 1: past this. You know, five years from now we're shaking hands. 1588 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I was always I'm a little bit of a 1589 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,799 Speaker 1: GERMOPHOBI like I was carrying hand sanitizer in my pocket 1590 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,559 Speaker 1: well years before this ever happened. So like somebody would 1591 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: shake my hand if I don't know them that well, 1592 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,479 Speaker 1: I probably would use hand sanitizer afterwards. You know, I've 1593 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,719 Speaker 1: always wanted to know too. It would be so amazing. 1594 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 1: I know this is something we'll never have answers to, 1595 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,960 Speaker 1: but you just I think it would change a lot 1596 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 1: of perceptions if we could know how did we get 1597 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,560 Speaker 1: that really bad cold or how did we get the 1598 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 1: flu at different times in our lives? Because I bet 1599 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,800 Speaker 1: if you actually could trace it back and figure it out, 1600 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 1: you've realized it. It's just you know, it's that one 1601 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,600 Speaker 1: bad luck, dumb moment, and all of a sudden, you 1602 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 1: know you're out for seven or ten days or something. 1603 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 1: So there's actually an episode of Scrubs as a clip 1604 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,919 Speaker 1: that's going viral of one person coming into the hospital 1605 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,880 Speaker 1: carrying a disease and they're green. Just to show that 1606 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,000 Speaker 1: they half a disease, they shake somebody's hands. That person 1607 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,360 Speaker 1: shakes somebody else's hand, touches something. It we went viral 1608 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 1: right at the start of this And it's incredible if 1609 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 1: you think of it like that, if you think if 1610 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,160 Speaker 1: you could see the virus, what it would look like. Yeah, 1611 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,560 Speaker 1: I think that they did. There was a simulation that 1612 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,600 Speaker 1: they did in Germany where they were able because they 1613 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 1: had a closed loop of people in one place and 1614 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 1: they had them all on I think they had them 1615 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 1: all on video camera and then they had an outbreak 1616 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,920 Speaker 1: of some of some COVID nineteen and they were able 1617 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 1: to look and see and like there was one thing 1618 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,600 Speaker 1: where a guy passes another German guy the salt, you know, 1619 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 1: and that was it. That was how he got you know, 1620 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 1: So they actually broke were able to break it down 1621 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 1: by some specific specific acts like that. But yeah, it does. 1622 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,599 Speaker 1: You know. I've always been a like push the push 1623 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,479 Speaker 1: the button with like your shirt or your elbow kind 1624 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 1: of a guy, and I feel like that means going forward. 1625 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we do um just sort of 1626 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,519 Speaker 1: a stand and like a wave like the Queen of England. 1627 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,160 Speaker 1: The people are like hello, Like don't they do the 1628 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 1: like she like turns the hand sort of side to side, 1629 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, or something field. Will you will you ever 1630 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: have ketchup at a restaurant again? Oh, that's a good question. 1631 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know. I mean I 1632 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 1: do like ketchup. I'm an ketchup not a muscle. Oh 1633 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,240 Speaker 1: I love ketchup too, but kind of gross. Get a 1634 01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 1: lot of little ketchup packets in the future. Thanks for 1635 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,080 Speaker 1: listening to the bus seton show podcast. Remember to subscribe 1636 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,360 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcast, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever you 1637 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Roll Call Tom, everybody, it is the 1638 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,760 Speaker 1: time for the role of the call producer Mark. Thank 1639 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 1: you for pulling them out today. Did we manage to 1640 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,280 Speaker 1: get some that have nice things about me? Or just 1641 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 1: team producer Mark forever? Okay, there's always nice things about 1642 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,599 Speaker 1: both of us. It's not just me. I'm just saying, yeah, 1643 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure you approve. We don't want producer Mark. 1644 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,639 Speaker 1: You can't have this. You can't have like the spinoff 1645 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,439 Speaker 1: of the sitcom when the sitcom is still going okay, 1646 01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,920 Speaker 1: so we gotta we got a producer, Mark. You got 1647 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,320 Speaker 1: a few more years before you're before the producer Mark 1648 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,559 Speaker 1: show gets to spin off on its own. We need 1649 01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 1: him here with us in the Freedomhood. So tell him 1650 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:03,840 Speaker 1: he's great, but don't tell him he's too great, or 1651 01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,960 Speaker 1: else he's gonna fly the coop. Bradley, Hey, bucking producer Mark. 1652 01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: We wanted to give you guys an update on things 1653 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 1: in Hollywood again while Schiff is putting together another committee 1654 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,720 Speaker 1: to bust President Trump. I took a little drive down 1655 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood Boulevard, passed his office again. So many homeless out 1656 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,080 Speaker 1: camping on the streets, even one sleeping the alcove of 1657 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,559 Speaker 1: the door to his building. The other thing I noticed 1658 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,240 Speaker 1: was that, strangely enough, in the middle of the pandemic, 1659 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,240 Speaker 1: there was still a ton of those dirty public scooters 1660 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 1: laying on all the sidewalks in Hollywood too. Hope Hollywood 1661 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,320 Speaker 1: can get their shiff cleaned up well, Bradley, thanks for 1662 01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:45,639 Speaker 1: the update from Hollywood. Yeah, it's a real public health concern, 1663 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,800 Speaker 1: always has been, to have so many people, thousands of 1664 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 1: people in Los Angeles sleeping on the streets. I've seen 1665 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:55,040 Speaker 1: some of those encampments myself. I made the mistake of 1666 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,920 Speaker 1: choosing a hotel a couple of years ago that was 1667 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: right on Hollywood Boulevard, been Hollywood, and it's not all 1668 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 1: glitz and glamor over there, folks, That's not where you 1669 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,559 Speaker 1: want to be. As for Schiff and trying to get 1670 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,760 Speaker 1: Trump on this, you know they're going to keep this 1671 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 1: stuff going with the rush because Chiff has nothing else 1672 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: to do, so this is what he's going to be 1673 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,080 Speaker 1: up to. But I don't think anybody can you imagine 1674 01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 1: them trying to hold a hearing right now? And I'm 1675 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 1: a prosident. Trump had a phone call to a guard 1676 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,880 Speaker 1: in Ukraine and he said, you know, maybe you can 1677 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,519 Speaker 1: helpe us. I mean, nobody will even it's a ridiculous 1678 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 1: No one's gonna payny attention to that. That's just crap. 1679 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 1: It's just guy, It's just gabbage garbage. You know that's true. 1680 01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,760 Speaker 1: So as for what else, was there a thing? Oh no, oh, 1681 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,479 Speaker 1: there was an interesting study. And I'm hoping for those 1682 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 1: of you who've been following some of his stuff. And 1683 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,479 Speaker 1: he was on Tucker Show, Alex Barrenson former New York 1684 01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Times reporter. He'sn't really an author. I think he's written 1685 01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,920 Speaker 1: like a dozen books or something. But we've been corresponding 1686 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,759 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have him on. He's the only one. Remember, 1687 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,280 Speaker 1: he's not a skeptic of the virus. That's not true. 1688 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,679 Speaker 1: He is just looking at the numbers and the data 1689 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 1: and asking questions and saying, hold on a second, this 1690 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,439 Speaker 1: was what we were told and this was what happened, 1691 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,120 Speaker 1: and if there's a disparity, it's worth looking at why 1692 01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 1: that's the case. So we're going to have him on, 1693 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 1: one of the few people who's willing to ask tough 1694 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:25,599 Speaker 1: questions about the lockdown consensus, including questions like does lockdown 1695 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,840 Speaker 1: really make us safer? Is lockdown really the better long 1696 01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 1: term play than lesser mitigation measures that are calibrated for 1697 01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:38,320 Speaker 1: the state, for the city in question. So we're hoping 1698 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,439 Speaker 1: to have him on soon this week. I've already been 1699 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,400 Speaker 1: talking to him. It seems like a nice guy. Josh, 1700 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 1: Hey Buck, I've been listening in round Rock ever since 1701 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 1: I heard you say come out the coast to have 1702 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 1: a few lefts. Well, thank you, Josh. Some die hard 1703 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,760 Speaker 1: lines are important. I deliver food while I listen to 1704 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,519 Speaker 1: your show. It's an honor to try to keep these 1705 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,040 Speaker 1: mom and pop restaurants going. They are on life support. 1706 01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,799 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what you're going through in grounds your NYC. 1707 01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,880 Speaker 1: But remember God has not given us a spirit of fear, 1708 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,479 Speaker 1: but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 1709 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,760 Speaker 1: Just like your radio program, keep your cast iron skillet high. 1710 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: It will block bullets and cook perfect steaks. Josh, excellent 1711 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,560 Speaker 1: advice all across the board, my friend, Thank you so 1712 01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:22,439 Speaker 1: much for listening. Thank you for the advice, and I 1713 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:25,680 Speaker 1: appreciate hearing from you man. And yeah, thank you for 1714 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 1: delivering food or restaurant's keeping them going. I mean everybody 1715 01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 1: who's showing up to do a job right now, who's 1716 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,760 Speaker 1: out in the virus red zone, which means not work 1717 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,840 Speaker 1: from home. You're helping, You're helping the country out. You 1718 01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 1: are doing a service. Yeah, of course you're getting paid 1719 01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,960 Speaker 1: as you well should. You're doing a service for all 1720 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,920 Speaker 1: of us. Say you're not even serving the United States government. 1721 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,639 Speaker 1: You know you're doing a service for us, your fellow Americans, 1722 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,760 Speaker 1: your fellow human beings. Because I can tell you this, 1723 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,360 Speaker 1: the moment that all of a sudden, people start going 1724 01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:56,360 Speaker 1: to the store and the shelves are empty for a 1725 01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,759 Speaker 1: few days. If that were to happen in the grocery stores, 1726 01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,160 Speaker 1: then things would get really ugly, really quickly. Then things 1727 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,479 Speaker 1: then then I would be concerned. Then it's like head 1728 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,960 Speaker 1: for the bunker and grab the ammunition and the water 1729 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,160 Speaker 1: and the storable food. And so I don't think we're 1730 01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 1: going to get there, But we're not going to get 1731 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 1: there because people keep doing their jobs, keep showing up 1732 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:19,160 Speaker 1: and keep us going. Al Buck love hearing you this evening. 1733 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 1: You're hitting it on all cylinders. Room room, Thank you. Al. 1734 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,840 Speaker 1: Consider this the art of the deal negotiation. Trump has 1735 01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,599 Speaker 1: drawn his enemy out to say he's not and cannot 1736 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 1: be responsible. Boom checkmate. Al completely completely correct on this one. 1737 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 1: They all freaked out, Oh you're not a king. Oh 1738 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 1: you're not a You know, you don't have the right 1739 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 1: to do that. Okay. Now Trump is saying it's up 1740 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,960 Speaker 1: to the governors. So when inevitably there is and I 1741 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't say it's inevitable, maybe some states will just be 1742 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,400 Speaker 1: able to control this. And you know, with with the 1743 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,920 Speaker 1: mitigation measures that aren't a lockdown of the economy, maybe 1744 01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,120 Speaker 1: that will be the case that we'll be able to 1745 01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,000 Speaker 1: control this going for forward, and so we'll see. But 1746 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:06,080 Speaker 1: if there's a renewed outbreak somewhere, there will not be 1747 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 1: the opening to bash Trump. There would otherwise be that's 1748 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 1: what the media is all worked up about, or they 1749 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:18,280 Speaker 1: will be when that happens. And you're right, Trump did 1750 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:24,000 Speaker 1: get them to declare that he cannot he cannot be 1751 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 1: somebody who will be held responsible for over He cannot 1752 01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,160 Speaker 1: be rather the person who makes the decision, and therefore 1753 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:35,760 Speaker 1: they'll be difficulties holding him responsible. Cheryl, Hey, Buck, I 1754 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 1: just wanted to drop a note and tell you thank you. 1755 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,880 Speaker 1: You're normally my calm part of the day after hearing 1756 01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 1: crazy lies all day on the news or on social media. 1757 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:44,600 Speaker 1: I keep meaning to drop you a note. I know 1758 01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,679 Speaker 1: you're thinking about getting a bulldog. I'm a dog trainer, 1759 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,880 Speaker 1: behaviorist and will tell you they do not typically live 1760 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,320 Speaker 1: a long time. They usually have a lot of health 1761 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,680 Speaker 1: issues do their due to how they are bred to 1762 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,599 Speaker 1: look so unlike other dogs. Cheryl, thank you so much 1763 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,920 Speaker 1: for running in And yeah, no, I actually have a 1764 01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,679 Speaker 1: very dear friend, a woman who's been a friend of mine. 1765 01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 1: You know, her husband and I we've all been friends 1766 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 1: now for oh gosh, twenty years, and I've known her 1767 01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:14,280 Speaker 1: for over thirty years, and she's a dog trainer here 1768 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,360 Speaker 1: in New York, and so I've had these conversations with 1769 01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 1: her too. Yeah, I know Brackie cephalic dogs. Brackie Cephalic 1770 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,559 Speaker 1: means that it's actually a dwarf gene that was bred 1771 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,479 Speaker 1: into this and that's where you get to squish the 1772 01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,640 Speaker 1: smoshy faced dogs. They have a form of canine dwarfism 1773 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,120 Speaker 1: and that's what has been bred into them, and they've 1774 01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,000 Speaker 1: tried to get this and that's why you have the 1775 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 1: bulldogs have a very big, very big head and the 1776 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 1: way the jaw and everything else is, it's all and 1777 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,559 Speaker 1: the squished face. It's a gene that was sought out 1778 01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,000 Speaker 1: for that, for that breed. But it does mean I 1779 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,040 Speaker 1: know that they have they can have breathing issues. I 1780 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,400 Speaker 1: mean Talu, who's next to me, Tallula is next to 1781 01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 1: me during the show. I mean, yeah, she snores a 1782 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 1: whole hack of a lot. And it's because she's got 1783 01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 1: squished in little pig face, which is also why I 1784 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:04,000 Speaker 1: call a little peggy. But I love bulldogs. I don't 1785 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 1: want to tell you and you know, maybe I'll have 1786 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 1: to rescue an older bully that's out there, and maybe 1787 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,439 Speaker 1: that's the way to do it, because I know there 1788 01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,040 Speaker 1: are some bullies, especially when when they get older, people 1789 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,240 Speaker 1: you know hand them. I mean, I don't know. I 1790 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 1: can't imagine just dropping off your canine best friend at 1791 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,760 Speaker 1: the at the pound or at the shelter and saying, 1792 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, here you go. It's getting too tough for me. 1793 01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not a decision that I'd ever 1794 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,960 Speaker 1: be able to make. But maybe I'll be able to 1795 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,680 Speaker 1: rescue an older one. But I think I'm gonna get one. 1796 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,439 Speaker 1: The other thing I thought about is maybe getting one 1797 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,880 Speaker 1: of these. I like puggles, so that's a beagle and 1798 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 1: a pug. Man You ever seeing those Producer Mark It 1799 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,840 Speaker 1: sounds adorable. They're adorable. Puggles are great. So it's a 1800 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 1: pug mixed with a beagle, so they have a little 1801 01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,800 Speaker 1: bit less of the breathing problems and a lot of 1802 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,600 Speaker 1: pep think about beagles that they're kind of yappy. Do 1803 01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,960 Speaker 1: you have a favorite dog? I used to have a 1804 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 1: mutt that was part of beagle. They howl. Yeah, that's 1805 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,120 Speaker 1: a big problem with a beagle. Yeah, they do. How Yeah, 1806 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,519 Speaker 1: my favorite dog would be a Golden Retriever. That's a yeah, 1807 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,840 Speaker 1: you're so friendly. The girlfriend wants her her dream dog 1808 01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,519 Speaker 1: is a Golden Retriever, so you know that may have 1809 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,200 Speaker 1: to happen one day. You need to move out of 1810 01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,439 Speaker 1: the city for that. Yeah, I've told her that. I said, 1811 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 1: he can't can't be in. The thing about bulldogs in 1812 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,120 Speaker 1: the city apartment is they're kind of like, oh sweet, 1813 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:19,719 Speaker 1: I've got a couch. I mean they're like the couch 1814 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,800 Speaker 1: potato dog. So under quarantine, they're also fantastic. I mean, 1815 01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,880 Speaker 1: Talu walks outside, does what she's got to do, and 1816 01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,120 Speaker 1: then she's like, let's go back inside. You know, no 1817 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:31,240 Speaker 1: prop other dogs. You know, I don't want to have 1818 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,960 Speaker 1: to take out a Springer Spaniel. That's like, where do 1819 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 1: we go? Where's the field I need to go. I 1820 01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,160 Speaker 1: need to go frolic and chase pheasant and they don't know. No, 1821 01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,519 Speaker 1: I don't have the space for that here. I don't 1822 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 1: have any pheasant. Producer. Mark, Well, you need to get 1823 01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 1: some peasant. Obviously, I've needed to do some indoor peasant 1824 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,720 Speaker 1: indoor that those would be unhappy pheasant. Let me tell you. 1825 01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of space in here. Freedom hud 1826 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 1: is snug John solution first trying to figure out a 1827 01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,599 Speaker 1: way to reopen his simple edge. Kate may suggestion support 1828 01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 1: those your greatest risk, or field the need to isolate 1829 01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 1: and return the responsibility to the people. I've followed you 1830 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,559 Speaker 1: for a long time, and with this current crisis, current circus, 1831 01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,759 Speaker 1: I've never fallen for the pan of yarding the virus, 1832 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 1: but I've always worried about the reaction here in Tennessee, 1833 01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:20,400 Speaker 1: the reluctant to impose a mandatory isolate decree. Governor has 1834 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,599 Speaker 1: just extended the mandate. Even in red states, the elected 1835 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:29,240 Speaker 1: are acting as parents instead of leaders. Yeah, I've seen that. 1836 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, some Red states have moved more in this 1837 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:36,080 Speaker 1: direction than I would have anticipated. You know. Part of 1838 01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:37,680 Speaker 1: my problem, I guess is I look at this is 1839 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,599 Speaker 1: I'm just not Some people are absolutely certain, one hundred 1840 01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:46,479 Speaker 1: percent convinced that the economic lockdown was a necessary was 1841 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,200 Speaker 1: a necessary part of reducing the spread, and that it 1842 01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,160 Speaker 1: wasn't It wouldn't have been better to have allowed for 1843 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,920 Speaker 1: some businesses to continue with all the other measures in place. 1844 01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, That's where I have a little bit of 1845 01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,559 Speaker 1: so instead of, you know, if lockdown is level ten, 1846 01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,040 Speaker 1: I've just been thinking, Okay, well maybe some states should 1847 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,800 Speaker 1: be at level seven, you know, or level six. They 1848 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,599 Speaker 1: don't need to be at level ten the way New York, 1849 01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, New York level ten. Yeah, maybe that's that 1850 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,400 Speaker 1: is the best case here. I mean, I can certainly 1851 01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:17,200 Speaker 1: understand that point of view, and it seems to be 1852 01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 1: supported by at least some of the evidence at this 1853 01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:23,519 Speaker 1: point about lockdown specifically. But I feel like other places, 1854 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, they would they could be at a seven 1855 01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 1: and they're at a nine, and maybe, you know, if 1856 01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,360 Speaker 1: there weren't such high stakes, you could say, well that's 1857 01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,439 Speaker 1: not a big deal. But the additional lockdown measures means 1858 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,360 Speaker 1: economic pain, means people staying at home that wouldn't have to, 1859 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:43,000 Speaker 1: and there are real consequences for all that you're in 1860 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,640 Speaker 1: the freedom Hunt. This is The Buck Sexton Show podcast. 1861 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,760 Speaker 1: Roll call continues here. Roger, Buck, it is weird seeing 1862 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:59,599 Speaker 1: Fort Bragg, aka the center of the universe, a ghost town. 1863 01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 1: We need to get back to normal, Roger. I can 1864 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:08,320 Speaker 1: imagine that would definitely be an unsettling site, and I 1865 01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,040 Speaker 1: agree we got to get back to normal. I assume 1866 01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,519 Speaker 1: military bases. Now, the big ones in this country are 1867 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,559 Speaker 1: on lockdown, just like everywhere else. And you know, everyone 1868 01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,679 Speaker 1: realizes that there's there's a lot that's got to get done. 1869 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,519 Speaker 1: There's a lot that we have to do, and yes, 1870 01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,599 Speaker 1: defeating the virus as part of it, but keeping life going, 1871 01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,080 Speaker 1: saving life and keeping life going. These are the things 1872 01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 1: that we have to find a way forward with David Buck. 1873 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:40,160 Speaker 1: People make the mistake thinking Trump is an egomaniac. Egomania is, though, 1874 01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:44,320 Speaker 1: is for those with incomplete self awareness. Trump is completely 1875 01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,680 Speaker 1: self aware. He's stating at a press conference that his 1876 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:51,200 Speaker 1: power is total was a brilliant political move. Now, the instinct, 1877 01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 1: the instinct of the Democratic governors will not will be 1878 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,120 Speaker 1: to not listen to his recommendations to open up their states. 1879 01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,559 Speaker 1: When the red states open up sooner and their economies 1880 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,920 Speaker 1: rapidly improved comparatively, the dem governors will be forced to 1881 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,240 Speaker 1: take the heat for staying shut and we'll be unable 1882 01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,879 Speaker 1: to ask for more federal bailouts with the without exposing 1883 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,280 Speaker 1: the hypocrisy of their newfound federalism. They will then put 1884 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,640 Speaker 1: their entire parties hold on the state in jeopardy. Like 1885 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,720 Speaker 1: I said, brilliant shields high. No, I mean, David, I 1886 01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:25,200 Speaker 1: think I made somewhat of this same case yesterday that 1887 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,400 Speaker 1: you're going to see if red states like Texas open 1888 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 1: up and do well, it's going to put a lot 1889 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,720 Speaker 1: of it's going to put a lot of pressure on 1890 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,800 Speaker 1: those blue states to also begin to take a less 1891 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:43,720 Speaker 1: shut down centric view of things. So that's where we're 1892 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 1: at on that, alrighty, And I think that's the case. Look, 1893 01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,600 Speaker 1: I started the show today with Trump talking about how 1894 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,320 Speaker 1: the governors are going to make the decision, because that's 1895 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,679 Speaker 1: very important. That's a big move because the day before 1896 01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:01,240 Speaker 1: was all, oh, King Trump, look what he's doing. Can't 1897 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,320 Speaker 1: trust to him. He's just gonna see his power and 1898 01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:09,200 Speaker 1: all this other stuff. So yeah, Stetson writing in here, Hi, Buck, 1899 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,919 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this absolute authority comment of Trump's, 1900 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,280 Speaker 1: and I can't help but wonder if he was referring 1901 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,920 Speaker 1: to the task force and whose decision it would be 1902 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,839 Speaker 1: to ease the guidance. I think Trump has been bristling 1903 01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,439 Speaker 1: over the suggestion that this decision was up to Fauci, 1904 01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,280 Speaker 1: and he reacted to that aspect. I don't know if 1905 01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,439 Speaker 1: he saw it the same way. Well, Stetson you know, 1906 01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 1: it's very trump Translating is something that you know, a 1907 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of us try to do, and it's not as easy. 1908 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,120 Speaker 1: It's not as straightforward as many would seem to make it, 1909 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:45,000 Speaker 1: want to believe. As for you know, as for whether 1910 01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,120 Speaker 1: he saw I you know, I think I think it 1911 01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,240 Speaker 1: was just Trump being like, I'm the big dog. That's 1912 01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:50,840 Speaker 1: kind of what I said yesterday. I think it's Trump's 1913 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,160 Speaker 1: just saying that I make the decision. I'm the man here, 1914 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,840 Speaker 1: you know. And then when it comes to the constitutional 1915 01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,720 Speaker 1: question and he talks to his advisors, he does the 1916 01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,360 Speaker 1: right thing, and look, I know it's so easy and say, oh, 1917 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:05,000 Speaker 1: you can't. Just look back to the obaministration. Obama would 1918 01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:10,040 Speaker 1: do the constitutionally wrong thing. Right. Obama would do real overreach, 1919 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,759 Speaker 1: and the press would say, oh, it's amazing. He's a genius, 1920 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,920 Speaker 1: he's brilliant, he's perfect. You know. Trump is like, yeah, 1921 01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm awesome, and they say he's going to be the tyrant, 1922 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,480 Speaker 1: he's going to overreach, and then he does the constitutionally 1923 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,280 Speaker 1: correct and from it, from the perspective of government overreach, 1924 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:31,080 Speaker 1: the more minimal thing. You know, he takes a minimalist 1925 01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: approach to government intervention in areas that are gray. You know, 1926 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,760 Speaker 1: he or he goes back to the goes back to 1927 01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,120 Speaker 1: the courts and sees what they have to say about it. 1928 01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, he is not the overreaching timer that they 1929 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:46,800 Speaker 1: want to believe he is. And this has shown us 1930 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,559 Speaker 1: once again that he ends up doing the right thing. So, yeah, 1931 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,520 Speaker 1: you know what he said. You know, I'm my authority's absolute. 1932 01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:57,360 Speaker 1: He's he's goading the press. He's poking them to watch 1933 01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,280 Speaker 1: them go. Oh good heaven, Oh good heaven. It's oh 1934 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,479 Speaker 1: my gosh what Trump said. Oh no, I'm so upset. 1935 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,599 Speaker 1: And then and then they clutch the pearls, clutch those pearls. 1936 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:14,160 Speaker 1: Maybe Jim Acosta will stand up to him again. When 1937 01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 1: did the cast of the Crown become our journalists. I've 1938 01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,960 Speaker 1: been watching a lot of the Crown. It's true, you 1939 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,080 Speaker 1: got me. I can't. I can't pretend like that's not 1940 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,320 Speaker 1: what just happened there. Yeah, and I didn't realize the 1941 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:27,519 Speaker 1: British press started covering Trump's press conferences. Yeah, well, the 1942 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,719 Speaker 1: remember the members of the press, at least the bosses 1943 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:34,360 Speaker 1: are more like, there's Trump who was giving is gonna 1944 01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,280 Speaker 1: do these for the people. The Crown is a little 1945 01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:38,880 Speaker 1: They're a little bit different. They're not quote is up 1946 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,200 Speaker 1: here that's the royal family. They're like, oh no, good heavens, 1947 01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,000 Speaker 1: it's different. Maybe I should do just like a one 1948 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,280 Speaker 1: man show. You know, that'd be kind of fun. Oh yeah, 1949 01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,200 Speaker 1: I guess I'm already doing a radio show. But I 1950 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:50,240 Speaker 1: mean like a one man Netflix special where I just 1951 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,600 Speaker 1: do a Netflix show as one person. Oh yeah, I 1952 01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,120 Speaker 1: would love that. I've been in quarantine too. I've been 1953 01:45:56,160 --> 01:46:00,639 Speaker 1: in quarantine too long. Yeah, you can edit it, bram Buck, 1954 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,519 Speaker 1: I can't believe Anne bashed Trump. He's done more of 1955 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:04,400 Speaker 1: my lifetime to keep his promises. I agree we need 1956 01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,560 Speaker 1: the wall, but I believe he's trying to despite this 1957 01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:10,639 Speaker 1: Trump despite the swamp, fighting him at every turn. Well, 1958 01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean Trump try. I mean Anne tries to give 1959 01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 1: Trump tough love. But I remember she was one of 1960 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:18,200 Speaker 1: the earliest supporting him. She wrote an entire book supporting him. 1961 01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:22,200 Speaker 1: She's been you know, she's been very good about the 1962 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 1: overall Trump agenda. And I like to have people. I 1963 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,040 Speaker 1: always get people there say on the show, and I 1964 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,880 Speaker 1: think I think overall, Anne's great and we appreciate her 1965 01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,120 Speaker 1: time here. But thank you for writing in That's It Team. 1966 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 1: She'll tie