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Speaker 1: working for the agency and as a father of four daughters.

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Speaker 1: That's why this week I want to share with you

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Speaker 1: madness this week on the David Rutherford Show. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, everybody. I tell you what man As a

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Speaker 1: person that used to be primarily motivational in nature in

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Speaker 1: little bit of that to the audience. Jeordie, and I

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Speaker 1: I just thought, based on your advice, I thought it

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Speaker 1: would be a good idea to just give some ideas

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Speaker 1: that I've learned over the last thirty years as a

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Speaker 1: that I think could help the audience.

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Speaker 2: So I think you'll help me too.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just selfishly claim that this is going to

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Speaker 3: be a personal therapy session for me because of a

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Speaker 3: without getting into it, I think I've handled I've seen

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Speaker 3: I need a boost.

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Speaker 4: Well I'm getting that a lot.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I think I get a

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Speaker 1: three or four text a week being like, hey, rot Man,

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Speaker 4: And so I'm I'm I'm happy to oblige for sure.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: We need it. You got it, all right.

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Speaker 1: So, first and foremost, one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: Adding an imbalance to our subjective perception of things?

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Speaker 1: And and you know, I think the first time that

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Speaker 1: And so as they leave buds, they're essentially these little

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Speaker 3: Well, once you finished, did you did you notice a

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Speaker 1: It's it's difficult to describe it really is. The guy

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like an I don't think is wrong either way.

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Speaker 3: You intentionally thought, I need a framework for handling life

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Speaker 1: That's why we have such reverence for great generals in history,

436
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: whether it was Alexander the Great or General Lee or

437
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: or or whomever. It's why it's because under pressure, under fire,

438
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: chest Puller, right, Admiral Nimitts, under fire, real fire, these

439
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: people don't lose their cool. They keep control, they maintain

440
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: operational focus, and they're able to finish the mission.

441
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 4: In the objective.

442
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: And those are that that's when you're lethal, when you

443
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Speaker 1: start to incorporate that, and I think that's what really

444
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: was supposed to emerge in this time. And then by

445
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: the time you got you left SQT, then you get

446
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: to a platoon, you do a year long work up.

447
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: That's where you're refining it as much as you can

448
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: as a new guy, right, And then that in that case,

449
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: now you have the pure evaluation of the guys you're

450
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: going to combat with, which is even more professional in

451
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: nature because you're still a student and there's still is

452
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Speaker 1: that student instructored a lot. But what you know, it

453
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: was during that time where I really began to understand

454
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: that there are some fundamental ideas that really need to

455
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: be explored and to help the students begin to recognize

456
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: that these things are playing a major role and their

457
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: ability to grow into that next version of themselves, right

458
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: to become the operator who can shoot, think, move, and

459
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: can communicate right, or think, shoot, move and communicate however

460
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: you want to divide it up. And that's where for

461
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: me the frog logic was born. You know, people every

462
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: now and then they hear me say that term, they're like, well,

463
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: what does that mean? And initially the whole thing when

464
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: I started frog Logic in two thousand and five into

465
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, it was basically to expose people

466
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Speaker 1: to these core principles that I think are are underneath

467
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: the main psychological formats that they implement the development of

468
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Speaker 1: of of of a frogman, of a green beret or

469
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: whatever like. There are some fundamental core concepts, these principles

470
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Speaker 1: of whatever particular mindset you need to have to be

471
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Speaker 1: a member of a group like this, And and really

472
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: that's where the frog logic concepts emerged. And the first

473
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Speaker 1: one that I really focused on was the idea of

474
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Speaker 1: self confidence. Now a lot of people are like, well,

475
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, how to self confidence play a major role like,

476
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident person.

477
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: I can you know, I can. I can handle myself.

478
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: But you really got to ask yourself, like is your

479
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: self confidence that intact?

480
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Now?

481
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: One of the things that we see and I would

482
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Speaker 1: see with students. You can bang on a student, but

483
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: if you bang on a student long enough, they're going

484
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: to be defeated, right, And that's like the American public

485
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: right now, I think, and you know, you bang on

486
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: them long and hard enough and they'll either walk away,

487
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: check check out. And you know, I think we you

488
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: and I talked about that quite a bit. You know,

489
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: people are just over it. They're just not They're done

490
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: paying attention. They can't keep up with the new cycle.

491
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: They can't keep up with the intensity of being lied

492
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: to and the corruption and all that. So a lot

493
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: of people will just check out. But again, as you

494
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: and I both know, if you check out, the problem

495
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: only gets worse, right, And so you.

496
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Speaker 3: Think under the fire, the thinking under fire thing you

497
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: just said, I mean all these concepts.

498
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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about it right now. That be self confident.

499
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: Okay, it sounds easy, like great, I'm confident, but it

500
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: actually doesn't matter unless there's some force fighting against it,

501
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: like yourself of confidence only really matters when you have

502
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: every reason to not be self confident right now, when

503
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: you have getting beaten down by life, when you're incessantly right,

504
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: that's that's really when it actually only when it really matters.

505
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: Well, think about it, right you?

506
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: You you wake up every day and put your feet

507
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: on the ground, right, you check out your posable thumbs,

508
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: You take a deep breath air, and you're like, fuck,

509
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: all right, I'm good, this is good. And then you

510
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: move into the day and your first phone call you

511
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: get is from your boss going why are you late?

512
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: When you get in you're I'm gonna hammer this not

513
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: at or when you get to work, you know, someone

514
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: else gets a promotion and you don't.

515
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: Or when you go to uh, you know, eat whatever.

516
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: You know you can't afford eating at this, so you

517
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: got to go each other and it's just you know

518
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: you can that's whatever I mean. Or you get dumped

519
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: or you're in a bad relationship, or you have generational trump.

520
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: There's there's so many different aspects that your self confidence

521
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: can take a beating on that it's critical right to

522
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: how do you recooper rate that?

523
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: How do you recover?

524
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: And so one of the things that I really try

525
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: to understand is like, what does the recovery look like

526
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: for the individual and do people have a system in place.

527
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: On how that works?

528
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: And so, you know, fast forward when I launched frog

529
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Logic and really in earnest in the spring of two

530
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: thousand and six after working at Blackwater for a couple

531
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Speaker 1: of years.

532
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: You know, I started with kids.

533
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Speaker 1: That's where I wanted to folk, but the primary focus

534
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: was self confidence. I really wanted to teach young kids

535
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen how to recognize that as identity. They

536
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: were trying to figure out who they were in a

537
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: very peculiar setting, right You know, it's crazy. I watch,

538
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, four teenage daughters and I'm watching them in

539
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: their social environments and it's always like they're trying to

540
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: figure out, right, are they full of it right now?

541
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Or how am I supposed to react in this moment?

542
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: And they're unsure of themselves. And I think young boys

543
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: are the same way too. It's a little different how

544
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: it emerges. There's a physical nature in it, I think

545
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: with young boys, but say it's very similar, how do

546
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I fit in right now? And what about me as

547
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: I see myself as relevant to making the group want

548
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: to bring me into the group in whatever.

549
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: Format that is, right, the.

550
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: A priori hierarchies of those subgroups and subcultures that exist

551
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: within all the different types of organizations we participate in

552
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: our familiar organization, our scholastic organization, our work organizations, whatever

553
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: they may be, our team organizations, and there's always trying

554
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: to figure out where you fit on the hierarchy. So

555
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: just that nature of that evaluation alone can really be

556
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: invasive on you know, having a very strong sense of

557
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: self confidence. So that was where I started first, and

558
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: try to figure out a system in place, right, and

559
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: you know they're training modules, but I call missions, and

560
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: so what I the idea is like there would be

561
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: four one topical mission and then four subsetets that help

562
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: support the development of that overall mission and to reinforce

563
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: the idea behind what it means to be able to

564
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: rehabilitate or maintain self confidence. So, like mission number one

565
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: in forging self confidence is have a positive attitude, right,

566
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: and that one thing alone, I swear, I swear to you, Jeordi,

567
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: that one concept alone has been the most transformational thing

568
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: for me in my entire existence. Right, And this is

569
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: the one thing that is undeniable, you know, And a

570
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of people will debate me on this, said, well,

571
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: what if somebody has chronic depression, or somebody has you know,

572
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: bipolar or multiple personality disorder, or is on the spectrum

573
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: or whatever every human being. I'm not gonna say every Obviously,

574
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: there's a three to five percent that are psychopaths. There's

575
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: fifteen percent that are sociopathic in nature. Let's let's for

576
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: discussions purpose all the people, the morewhelming majority of people

577
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: respond in a positive way when there's a sensation of

578
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: a positive assessment of their world right right, when they

579
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: think they're in an environment that has relative positivity intact,

580
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: And that's in a form of safety. That's the form

581
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: of positive relationships, right feedback, that's in the form of

582
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: some even limited sense of meaning or purpose. That's in

583
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: the form of of you feeling like you have some

584
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: some control of where you're the direction your life has headed, right,

585
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: something to aim at, as Jordan Peterson would say. And

586
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: so that that idea of a positive attitude, like you

587
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: can do that every day. You don't have to pay

588
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: to have a positive attitude. You don't have to pay,

589
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to download your positive attitude. You have

590
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: a choice to be positive or negative or neutral. I mean,

591
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: that's your choice every day and it's on you. And

592
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: there's you know, categorical proof that people in the very

593
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: worst situations that can be uh manifested within the human

594
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: condition in terms of being locked in a concentration camp

595
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: or a goolog, being grown up in perpetual violence or trauma.

596
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: You know, there's a place that anybody can conjure you

597
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: know that that there is a semblance of positivity.

598
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 4: Now, I also recognize that.

599
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Through a lot of uh, very intense psychological abuse, you

600
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 1: can break human beings. Obviously, you know, the mk Ultra

601
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: program is one of the most known examples of that.

602
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: You come, you break somebody into dissociation, and uh you

603
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: can have manipulate them in any in any way you want.

604
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: But the overwhelming majority of people existing normally is like, man,

605
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: you can be positive every day.

606
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 4: So that's step mission number one.

607
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: And well, I want to comment on that real quick,

608
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: which is I just want to like emphasize when some

609
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: people here have a positive attitude, at first glance, it

610
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 3: can look way less serious.

611
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: Or heroic or.

612
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: Dare I say, badass than it actually is because I

613
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: think the operative word there is have have about positive attitude.

614
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Don't just like hope you're happy, right, because good luck

615
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: with that strategy. Right, But you know, you wake up

616
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: in the sunshining, everything's fine, You just got paid today.

617
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: Have a positive attitude easy, Like that doesn't really mean anything, right,

618
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: But you got fired. You just yelled at your kid

619
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: that morning when you shouldn't when you shouldn't have. You

620
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 3: just got a random tax bill for twenty five thousand

621
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: dollars you didn't prepare for right same day, your marriage

622
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: is hanging on.

623
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: Have a positive attitude.

624
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: Now, Well, I'm glad you brought that point up because

625
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: that was the dramatic shift in the evolution of where

626
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: frog logic went right. Because you know, after I spent

627
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: several years teaching this uh to you know, and talking

628
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: about this to about seven thousand kids from two thousand

629
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: and six to two thousand and eight, you know, I

630
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: in that exposure, you know, kids are the greatest thing

631
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: because there's there's such genuineness, there's such honesty, and their

632
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: reflections and their attitudes and their actions very you know,

633
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: fulfilling to analyze and to evaluate. Right, I began to

634
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: realize that there's another component. There's a layer that really

635
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: is that is UH, that is a preface or that

636
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: exists before confidence, even emergency, that's on a mark, a

637
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: quarter level. Right, this is something that's that's you're wired for.

638
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: And I wasn't able to put my mind on it

639
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: until I spent four years at the agency. You know,

640
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: I ended up writing my first adult book. I'd written

641
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: a children's book about self confidence, and when I worked

642
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: at the agency, I wrote an adult book on self confidence.

643
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: And as I was writing this, and then when I

644
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: left the agency and started speaking again, the question always

645
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: came up, Well, you know, were you afraid? Were you

646
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: afraid when you went through Hell Week? Were you afraid

647
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: when you went to combat? Were you afraid when you

648
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: were overseas where you're afraid? Were you afraid?

649
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 4: You know? And then I began.

650
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: To realize, Wow, there's there's an underlying component that supersedes

651
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: the idea of the construct of confidence, right, of self confidence.

652
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Speaker 1: It's that and it's that this innate thing, this thing

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Speaker 1: that's woven into the framework the wiring UH and the

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Speaker 1: emotional framework of of who you are from from birth right,

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Speaker 1: And that's the idea that's the emotion of fear. And

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Speaker 1: all you got to do is look at, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way you're You're set up right on a on

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Speaker 1: a biological level within your limbic system in terms of

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Speaker 1: stress hormones and and and and positive hormones, which which

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Speaker 1: you know, you've got dopamine, oxytose, and serotonin, and then

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Speaker 1: over here you've got epinephrin nor epinephrin, uh, adrenaline and cortisol. Right,

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Speaker 1: and so you're you have this biological war that's being

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Speaker 1: waged every single day, which generates one of I think

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Speaker 1: the primary emotion that we have to manage throughout our lives.

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Speaker 4: And that's why what spawned.

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Speaker 1: This this this this show is fear and you want

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Speaker 1: to I mean, fear is fundamental in every way in

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Speaker 1: every human being. And so you know, from basically after

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Speaker 1: being asked this question at nauseum, I it was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't know how to answer it.

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Speaker 1: Initially I kind of gave these kind of flipping answers,

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Speaker 1: like you know, how dare you ask me if I

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Speaker 1: was afraid in combat? I was like, you know, what

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Speaker 1: gives you that? Right? And I'd give stupid answers but

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Speaker 1: eventually I was like, no, people really want to.

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Speaker 4: Know, like they genuinely want to know.

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Speaker 1: And so I spent about a year year. This is

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Speaker 1: because everybody's afraid. Everybody's afraid.

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Speaker 3: They didn't want to know that if if even that

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Speaker 3: navy seal was afraid, then maybe they're not crazy, right, And.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, because you can't defeat fear. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying the show so far. Sorry to cut in,

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Speaker 4: It's just it's an impossibility. You can't. You're wired from it,

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Speaker 4: and you've been taught it your whole life. It's a

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Speaker 4: part as you can.

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Speaker 2: They're not afraid. It is lying. This is lying.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know there's this idea, oh, that

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Speaker 1: dude's fearless. And I know guys, I mean one of

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Speaker 1: my friends has almost eight hundred combat missions and I'd

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Speaker 1: ask them, hey, dude, were you afraid your last deployment

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Speaker 1: is like rut, I was getting shot at. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? Of course, I'm afraid. I just know how

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Speaker 1: to manage it better through these these other ideas that

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Speaker 1: are woven into our training and my own psychological development

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Speaker 1: through Maine, through to an idea called stress and oculation,

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Speaker 1: but also through the deep introspection of you know and

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Speaker 1: I and for what a lot of guys talk about

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Speaker 1: it is if it's my time, it's my time. It's

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Speaker 1: the acceptance right that fears an integral part of my job,

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Speaker 1: my existence. And so if I allow fear to overwhelm

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Speaker 1: my aptitude to deliver skill sets under these pressure environments, then.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be what I want to be.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, that happens to everyday people too. I'm sorry to

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Speaker 3: interrupt you, but it have as in every d people.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be just you're shot at, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean even I just got a small dose of it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have a kid That've got people who.

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Speaker 4: When you before your kid came.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, because you realize you start thinking about, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna you got I gotta provide for my family,

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Speaker 3: I gotta do all these things, and immediately you go, okay, well,

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Speaker 3: what do I need to do to do that? And

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Speaker 3: then the next stage is you just picturing all the scenarios.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing. It's not even that you're being

742
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Speaker 3: over overly paranoid. Sometimes you think of all the scenarios

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Speaker 3: that could get in the way of you protecting and

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Speaker 3: providing for your family that you are now up against, right.

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Speaker 1: By the negative insurgency, the negative surgy.

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Speaker 3: I lose my job, I lose an arm, I die,

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Speaker 3: I whatever, lose my mind to flip out, I can't

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Speaker 3: regulate my emotions. I make a wrong decision about some

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Speaker 3: just decision inside of a hospital that turns out bad. Right,

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Speaker 3: there's so many things you start realizing, and it's not

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Speaker 3: even crazy because you could do those things right. It

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Speaker 3: actually could go wrong. I could mess out. Let me

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Speaker 3: correct that I will mess up as a husband, and

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Speaker 3: I will. That's right, And so those are and then

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Speaker 3: and then also that's real, actual real world consequences for

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Speaker 3: the people that you love and depend on you. It's

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Speaker 3: actually real. And so this isn't just like hey, be

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Speaker 3: positive and you'll be happy. It's like, no, be positive,

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Speaker 3: like your life depends on it, and the lives of

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Speaker 3: the people who depend on you depend on it.

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Speaker 4: Well, and that's what I really tried.

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Speaker 1: That's what emerged out of this right what fear it's

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't talk and and and you know

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Speaker 1: innuendo and metaphysics, you know about fear, Like you've got

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Speaker 1: to give people a concise way to address it. And

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Speaker 1: so that's what emerged next was really this idea of

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Speaker 1: teaching people to embrace their fear right because one of

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Speaker 1: the things you learn in the program is that you're

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Speaker 1: going to be afraid every day because every day you're

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Speaker 1: doing things that are high risk, you know, training evolutions.

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Speaker 1: Every day there's you make one long move and you

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Speaker 1: could be seriously wounded or killed.

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Speaker 4: Every single day. It's no avoiding it. So you have

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Speaker 4: to embrace it.

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Speaker 1: And if and if when you bring it in close,

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Speaker 1: if you're not sure what it is and where it

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Speaker 1: comes from, then it controls you and then it can

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Speaker 1: get the best. So you have to learn to embrace it.

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Speaker 1: So what did I do Based on the research, I

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Speaker 1: created five missions for learning to embrace fear. You know,

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Speaker 1: Mission number one is search for search for the truth

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Speaker 1: of your fear. And that's what I think people aren't

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Speaker 1: doing at all, Like I asked this one, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I give you know, one hundred hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: five speeches a year to audiences and all across the

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Speaker 1: United States and around the world. And and I ask

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Speaker 1: you know when I give the embrace fear seminar as

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Speaker 1: I you know, step one, as you know mission one,

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Speaker 1: search for the truth of your Step one is write

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Speaker 1: down every single fear you've ever had as a child,

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Speaker 1: as young adolescents, young adulthood, at all your fears you

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Speaker 1: have right now and all the fears you have in

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Speaker 1: the future. And I asked the audience, I go raise

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Speaker 1: your hand if you've done this before. And and the

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Speaker 1: average and this is, let's say the average audience I

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Speaker 1: speak in from two hundred to three hundred people. The

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Speaker 1: average response to that is one person in the audience,

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Speaker 1: all right, And I AA.

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Speaker 3: Steps like admit that you have a problem sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: That's always a step one, right.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And I looked at AA right.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how many different training protocols and

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Speaker 1: profiles I've looked at as I was trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out the best way to deliver this information, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I wrote curriculum and SQT. I wrote curriculum at Blackwater,

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Speaker 1: I wrote curriculum at the agency, and I've written a

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Speaker 1: ton of curriculum for companies. I've written a ton of curriculum,

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Speaker 1: you know, for what frog logic concepts are too. So

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Speaker 1: I wanted something that was palatable for everybody to understand this.

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Speaker 1: So you know, all of most of the curriculum is

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Speaker 1: journal based. It's it's really just doing some introspection about

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Speaker 1: yourself based on different sequences or experiences you've had. And

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Speaker 1: then there are also some other activities that propel you

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Speaker 1: out to go at and evaluate yourself in real time

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Speaker 1: under different stressful situations or environments by choice. And so

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Speaker 1: the embrace fear one I discovered, all right, that is

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Speaker 1: the first thing. So what I did is I moved

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Speaker 1: it over here and I was like, all right, embrace

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Speaker 1: fear comes first once you go through those five missions.

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Speaker 1: The next is you learn to forge your self confidence.

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Speaker 1: That's eight missions. Then what emerged all around that time too,

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Speaker 1: was all right, everybody wanted me to talk about team orientation,

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Speaker 1: what makes a great teammate, what makes a great follower,

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Speaker 1: what makes a great team. So during that time, I

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Speaker 1: went out and I created the team life training concepts, right,

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Speaker 1: and in that there's four missions and either I believe

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Speaker 1: there are like four core concepts behind living a team life,

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Speaker 1: you know, a really dedicated you know, Mission number one

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Speaker 1: is defining your level of commitment, right, because if you're

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Speaker 1: not committed, forget it. You know, it's just and you

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Speaker 1: know we've been hearing this since we were little kids.

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Speaker 4: Everybody. You know, your coaches, your teachers.

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Speaker 1: You know, R.

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Speaker 4: Rutherford.

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Speaker 1: You're not being committed. You're not you're showing up late,

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Speaker 1: you're not working hard, you're half ass in it. You're

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Speaker 1: not doing your homework, you're not giving it your all,

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Speaker 1: you're not participating, you're not committed. So it's this word

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Speaker 1: that's firmly integrated into our development as human beings, right,

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Speaker 1: as this core understanding. But yet, when you ask people

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Speaker 1: how they define commitment, in particular, if I set up

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Speaker 1: a team, which I do when I work with with

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Speaker 1: UH with teams, whether their corporate teams or professional athletic

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Speaker 1: teams or college teams, you know, one of the things

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Speaker 1: I ask is like, all right, you know, independently, I

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Speaker 1: want you to write down how you define commitment. Now

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Speaker 1: you write down how you define it now, and then

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Speaker 1: I take these and I read them off, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's certain similarities, but there's a lot of stuff missing,

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Speaker 1: right because what happens over time core ideas and principles

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Speaker 1: or belief systems, they becommuted, they become cloudy, they become

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Speaker 1: convoluted with other you know, internal desires, wants or wishes,

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Speaker 1: and the orientation around the team is not there. And

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Speaker 1: so you know, really try and teach that essence that

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Speaker 1: the self is sovereign to the team in this So

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Speaker 1: you know, mission number one. Step one is define yourself

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Speaker 1: physically and how you're committed to being better. And that's

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Speaker 1: as specific as you know, how strong are you, how

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Speaker 1: fast are you, how much endurance, how far can you walk?

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Speaker 4: How many pushups? How you know, how far can you swim?

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Speaker 4: How much?

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Speaker 1: How much do you exercise? Because all of that, I believe.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're physical in nature, We're rooted in our

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Speaker 1: physicality as human beings. It's the essence of really what's

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Speaker 1: south operated us I think from so many other species

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Speaker 1: is that we're physically superior. I mean, we could wrong

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Speaker 1: longer distances, we have sweat glands, we have these opposable

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Speaker 1: thumbs and and you know, so they're really powerful. So

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Speaker 1: that's the first one. Then, you know, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: mentally and spiritually emotionally comes a follow But so you know,

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Speaker 1: after I had those three in place, it's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: this is the formula that I think really can help

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Speaker 1: people when they're under that duress, when they're in stress

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Speaker 1: or there or they're seeking a greater, more heightened level

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Speaker 1: of ambition and what they want to achieve in their lives. However, ah,

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Speaker 1: I hit a point where it was really when Simon

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Speaker 1: Senek really began to explode on the scene, and it

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Speaker 1: was like, what's your why? Right? And and that was

879
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Speaker 1: a fascinating question to me. And you know, I always thought, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the why emerges, you know, when you seek

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Speaker 1: to improve yourself. But the actual opposite is true, right,

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Speaker 1: why is a fundamental thing? Now it can emerge as

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Speaker 1: you focus on these other pathways too. But what I

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Speaker 1: also believe is is, you know, the ultimate question that

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Speaker 1: a human being can ask yourself, there's two of them,

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Speaker 1: Who am I?

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Speaker 4: And why am I? Here?

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Speaker 1: Therein lies a purpose to try and figure that out. Right, However,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that people can really genuinely figure out

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Speaker 1: They've embraced their fear, their self confidence is strong enough

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Speaker 1: to when they fail, they don't collapse, right, and whatever

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Speaker 1: aptitude they're engaged in, and then they have to have

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Speaker 1: a great team around them to support what the mission

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Speaker 1: ultimately becomes, and that purpose changes, it evolves. Right, all

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Speaker 1: of my buddies that I went through buds with, they're

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Speaker 1: living completely different purpose driven lives right now right there.

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Speaker 1: They're focused on different things and that's the beauty of purpose.

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Speaker 4: It evolves as you evolve.

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Speaker 1: But this is the core idea behind the frog logic concepts.

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Speaker 1: And so you know what I recommend to all of you.

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Speaker 1: If you're in that space where you're troubled by what's

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Speaker 1: taking place, you're struggling to manage the stress of your

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Speaker 1: stressors of your life, whatever they may be, man just

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Speaker 1: just pick one of these concepts. And even if you

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Speaker 1: don't want to see how I do it, or how

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Speaker 1: I break it down or anything like that, just pick

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Speaker 1: a concept. Just start with your fear, try and understand

909
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: what you're afraid of, right, Just start with that exercise alone,

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00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: Like why is this stuff make you afraid? And then

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Speaker 1: you know, from there can emerge all these next different

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Speaker 1: sequences or whatever sequence that you want to spin off into.

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Speaker 1: But without understanding your fear and really why this stuff

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Speaker 1: is getting to you, you know, you're kind of just

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Speaker 1: wandering in the woods or wandering in the desert to

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Speaker 1: use a biblical framework. And you know, there's some really

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Speaker 1: fascinating uh theologic theologians who've evaluated that that whole idea

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Speaker 1: and why did they wander so so long? And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people believe that, you know, and I kind

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Speaker 1: of agree with this. This theory is that these people

921
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Speaker 1: were slaves for so long that they lived in a

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Speaker 1: slave mentality. And the slave mentality is you're taught what

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Speaker 1: to think, you're taught how to act, and if you're

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Speaker 1: not sure, you're waiting for somebody to say do this,

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Speaker 1: do that, think this, think that, and that you're always

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Speaker 1: enslaved if you live there, and where are you most

927
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Speaker 1: a slave too? The fear of not knowing what's coming

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Speaker 1: next because you're waiting for life to to to to

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Speaker 1: happen to you. And that's essentially the negative insurgency that

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Speaker 1: I talked so frequently about that's the insurgency placing you

931
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Speaker 1: on the anvil and working you over and you have

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Speaker 1: no control over that. But when you take hold of

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Speaker 1: that and you start with understandable, I know what I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid of and I know why. Then now of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you're like, all right, what am I going to

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Speaker 1: do about it? That's placing yourself on the anvil and

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Speaker 1: you're working on yourself. And that's where I see And

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Speaker 1: back when I was an SQT instructor, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: loosely what I was trying to do is to get

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Speaker 1: these kids to admit, to recognize.

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Speaker 4: You chose this path.

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Speaker 1: Now what are you going to do to evolve in

943
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Speaker 1: the next capacity in it? What are you going to

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Speaker 1: do to become the best version not only of yourself

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Speaker 1: as a seal, but what are you going to do

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Speaker 1: to become the best version of yourself as a person.

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Speaker 1: And that's something I struggled with immensely why I was

948
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Speaker 1: in the team. I was so uncertain of what it

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Speaker 1: was meaning, where I would take it, how I would

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Speaker 1: emerge it. And thankfully, towards the end of my career,

951
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Speaker 1: I finally got some people that were really able to

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Speaker 1: inspire me to to go down some better paths than

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Speaker 1: I had chosen previously. But you know, again we recognize,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jordan and I were in this every day

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Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, what is the best way to

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Speaker 1: deliver this information, and it was to mitigate all that

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Speaker 1: in you, to lower or reduce the anxiety of that

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Speaker 1: tsunami of information, or to help you deconstruct it and

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Speaker 1: pull it apart so you can take one piece out

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Speaker 1: of time and assemble h you know, a perception that

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Speaker 1: best fits where you're at, that that that doesn't degrade

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Speaker 1: your faith in the teams you're part of, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: degrade your self confidence, and most certainly that doesn't provoke

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Speaker 1: a heightened sense of fear and and by all of

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Speaker 1: these these metrics or these ideas that we're trying to

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Speaker 1: expose you and in the way in particular it should

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Speaker 1: you want to choose to utilize frog logic. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's the intent. That's really the intent about why Jordan

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Speaker 1: and I are doing this. It's the intent why I've

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Speaker 1: done what I've been doing for the last thirty years,

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Speaker 1: is to give you some type of formula that I

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Speaker 1: have invested quite a bit of a time experiencing myself

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Speaker 1: through my own evolution as an individual, as a human being,

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Speaker 1: as a man, as an operator, whatever you want to say,

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Speaker 1: as a father, as a as a Christian, you know,

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Speaker 1: and mostly and then to share it and in order

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Speaker 1: to kind of help you manage this tsunami of fear.

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Speaker 2: So I hope I enjoyed that too. Yeah, I say,

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Speaker 2: real quick, is I think that's great?

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Speaker 3: Is fascinating because I do think something I didn't realize

981
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Speaker 3: for a long time is that I do think men

982
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: need a framework. I think you need a framework because

983
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 3: otherwise you're going to try to make up your own framework.

984
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but you're going

985
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: to fail. And I don't know what kind of There's

986
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: a lot of different frameworks you you can go off

987
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 3: of it in different situations in your life, right Like

988
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: it could be the Navy Seals, sign up for the

989
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: Navy Seals. It could be learning from mentors through something

990
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: like frog logic. It can be Christianity, it can be anything, right,

991
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,479
Speaker 3: a lot of different things. But something I didn't rest

992
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: for a long time was that I actually needed a

993
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: framework that I could actually you know, I thought I

994
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: could figure stuff out of my own figured out and

995
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: looking back, it's just pure pride. It's just pure pride

996
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: getting in the way of everything. And yeah, I think

997
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: having a framework is everything. So I'm glad that this

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Speaker 3: is that this exists basically and people can get help

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Speaker 3: from it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that.

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00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean from day one, right, you have

1002
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: a framework, you have a framework how to perceive everything

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00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: you do. There's a a system, a process, and so,

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00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, the hardest thing I think is as any

1005
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: human being that really is has the propensity to think

1006
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: that there's more to life than just consumption. There's more

1007
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: to life than just excess. There's more to life than

1008
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: than you know, uh, being selfish and seeking your you

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00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: know these you know the deepest desires you have, right,

1010
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: and that's to contribute. And so how do you best contribute?

1011
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: How do you best contribute, uh, you know, to your team,

1012
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: how do you best contribute to your family, to your

1013
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: loved one, to your children? And and you're right, it's

1014
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: a framework and and and that was the whole, the

1015
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: whole reason, uh, the whole impetus behind wanting to create

1016
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: something that was rooted not in some mythological uh uh

1017
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: self help stuff out there at all, but really based

1018
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: on what life is really about, I believe, which is

1019
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: how it's fundamentally imbued with suffering and pain. Uh, and

1020
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: there's no escaping it. Uh and less and less you

1021
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: alter your perception to be able to in the midst

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Speaker 1: of those moments of pain, to uh hold on to

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00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: the things that make us feel truly blessed and and

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00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: that that all of this is worth it. Uh. And

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00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: that's those connections, those those deep intimate relationships not only

1026
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: with those we love most and hopefully with God and Christ,

1027
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: but but more so with yourself.

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Speaker 4: So you're right, we need a need framework.

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah dude, yeah, man, exactly. That's it.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: You can follow me on all and mostly I'm on

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Speaker 1: well too. If you are interested in this curriculum we are.

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Speaker 1: We have the Embrace Fear course available. We will soon

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Speaker 1: have the Forging Self Confidence quickly followed up I Live

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Speaker 1: the Team Life course, and then probably by the end

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Speaker 1: So all of the core Frog Logic concept course and

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Speaker 1: but pay attention. But if you want to just get

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Speaker 1: Everything will be on Dave Road for a count. Come

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Speaker 1: all right, everybody, God bless you, good luck. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank Christ, I want to thank my beautiful wife,

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Speaker 1: my children, and I want to thank you Jeordie man

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Speaker 1: and Uh, I feel so blessed uh to have you

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Speaker 1: in my life. Brother, thank you, Amen, same to you

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