Speaker 1: Podcast starts now, just kidding, This is George with a
Speaker 1: very quick reminder that you can see me in Somerville,
Speaker 1: Massachusetts this Thursday at the Rockwell Theater at seven pm
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Speaker 1: March twenty fourth at Joe's Pub. And lastly, I am
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm feeling loose.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm feeling loose.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling blanky goosey.
Speaker 2: I'm simply a canvas for ideas to be painted upon.
Speaker 1: If I like turn my head one way versus another,
Speaker 1: entire mini series on television could be created. I am
Speaker 1: in such a place of sponge like absorption of the
Speaker 1: world around me, and I'm ready to create.
Speaker 2: Have you ever done the Artist's way? You know?
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I have started it twice. I don't
Speaker 1: think I have gotten past like week three both times.
Speaker 2: Well that's all you need. But I've been hearing about
Speaker 2: it secondhand, and it's I think it's funny to be like,
Speaker 2: just be open for God to come through you. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I'm literally so open all
Speaker 2: the time. That's crazy. I'm literally such a vessel for Christ.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. You know.
Speaker 1: I recently, in a very vulnerable turn, shared my forgotten
Speaker 1: audiobook library. I don't know if you saw this, I did,
Speaker 1: I did, I would say pretty alarming. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much you how much you sort of like took
Speaker 1: it in.
Speaker 2: It was all self help stuff.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of self help that I listened
Speaker 1: to one chapter of because I I just and the
Speaker 1: thing is I just am not. I know I'm not
Speaker 1: a self help person. I know I can't do it. However,
Speaker 1: you know, once a year, someone will someone I trust
Speaker 1: will be like, yeah, I know I'm not either. I'm
Speaker 1: also like punk rock and uh, you know, fuck the system,
Speaker 1: but this one really helped me. And then I'll be
Speaker 1: like all right, like if you say so, maybe you're right,
Speaker 1: and then I will I will have an allergic reaction
Speaker 1: to it. I can't do it. And I actually think
Speaker 1: that's my issue with artists way too, because I'm also like,
Speaker 1: why like when they're like, do morning pages and just
Speaker 1: write a stream of consciousness without taking your pen off
Speaker 1: the paper, and like, no, what if I write while thinking?
Speaker 1: And I actually like organize my ideas?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you're being critical and you're like they're
Speaker 2: trying to like make you more open and not be
Speaker 2: critical of your ideas.
Speaker 1: And you find that that has worked for you.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I actually love being non critical of writing
Speaker 2: at first, because it just, like you know I've been
Speaker 2: talking about it, is like you developed like a scab
Speaker 2: and you're sort of like, Okay, well now I'm scabbed
Speaker 2: so hard over that I can't come up with anything.
Speaker 2: But if you're just if you're if you break that
Speaker 2: scab off by just writing whatever. Then you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I guess you just write whatever because if you're putting oh,
Speaker 2: I think I'm frozen. And that's okay, Okay, we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back, thank god. So basically I was talking about
Speaker 2: scabs and about how we all have them.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you know, for everyone listening,
Speaker 1: we did all just freeze. And also, it is four
Speaker 1: forty five pm on a Friday my time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say it's one forty four on
Speaker 2: a Friday my time.
Speaker 1: Which is maybe worse. I'll say, no, mine's worse. Sorry
Speaker 1: to center myself.
Speaker 2: Why is it worse?
Speaker 1: Do you feel because you're still in the middle of
Speaker 1: your work day, like you can you can you know, yes,
Speaker 1: the day is winding down, but like if you're working
Speaker 1: in an office right now, you could potentially be going
Speaker 1: to a meeting.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you're right. It's just when you said that,
Speaker 2: I got scared. I was like I felt like an
Speaker 2: injustice where I was like, there's someone in a meeting
Speaker 2: right now, yeah, and like that's I actually want to
Speaker 2: like free them, Like I want to like run into
Speaker 2: the office with a gun, yeah and say let them out,
Speaker 2: don't you think though?
Speaker 1: Okay, here's my take on meetings in when I've been
Speaker 1: in an office environment. What's great about meetings is that
Speaker 1: you actually have an excuse to kind of zone out
Speaker 1: and do nothing, Whereas if you're at your desk, it's
Speaker 1: more stressful because you feel they need to appear like
Speaker 1: you're working. You can just listen attentively if you're in
Speaker 1: a meeting. When I am in an obfice environment and
Speaker 1: suddenly I have like what's called in the business back
Speaker 1: to back meetings. Let's say it's like lunchhim and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh God, Like I can't believe I'm back to back
Speaker 1: meetings from two to six pm. To me, that's heaven.
Speaker 1: I'm basically sleepwalking through the entire afternoon.
Speaker 2: But this is something that speaks to you as a performer,
Speaker 2: Like there's something about the performance of a meeting that
Speaker 2: speaks to you more than the like it is at
Speaker 2: your desk. The only person you're performing for is yourself.
Speaker 2: Like it's like send that email and you're like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I have to send that email and you're like just
Speaker 2: sort of overthinking it, and you're like I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to. But as
Speaker 2: soon as like someone else's eyes are on you. You're
Speaker 2: like watch this, I can like tap dance around you guys,
Speaker 2: and in this meeting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, an email, First of all, it's never gonna an
Speaker 1: email as a form is never gonna be transcendent. Like
Speaker 1: it's very rare that I've written a trend and send
Speaker 1: an email, but it's actually very common that I've said
Speaker 1: something absolutely legendary in a meeting. You know, I just
Speaker 1: have to sort of get in the zone. So email
Speaker 1: it's not going to be transcendent, and you're not going
Speaker 1: to get positive feedback meeting. Honestly, most people are not
Speaker 1: that bright. All you have to do is speak up
Speaker 1: and say something semi coherent. Immediately you're going to get
Speaker 1: praised from two people in that room.
Speaker 2: I mean, talk about vessel for Christ, talk about artists.
Speaker 2: Way when you're in a boardroom and you're speaking like
Speaker 2: God is speaking through you, Yeah, there is a divine
Speaker 2: energy in you in a boardroom speaking.
Speaker 1: And it's also like I, oh, actually I almost do
Speaker 1: want to talk about this. I bombed so hard last
Speaker 1: night at a show and it made me remember something
Speaker 1: I you know, you sort of forget we're so used
Speaker 1: to being in front of people speaking in front of people.
Speaker 1: That then it's like a piece of cake. If you're
Speaker 1: in a boardroom and you have people like aggressively nodding
Speaker 1: in a kind of performative way. Yeah, we've been like
Speaker 1: training for it our whole lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I ask this bomb? Did it emotionally hurt?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: It was one of those New York nights where I
Speaker 1: was running late, so I took an uber, which, you know,
Speaker 1: bad decision. It was snowing and there was traffic. I
Speaker 1: show up to the show forty minutes late.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean I knew I was going to be last
Speaker 1: on the lineup, so I wasn't you know, I knew
Speaker 1: I wasn't like inconveniencing anyone, But I was originally going
Speaker 1: to show up on time. And I showed up forty
Speaker 1: minutes late after paying thirty dollars for aneuver get to
Speaker 1: the show, immediately have to go up Bomb, leave the show.
Speaker 1: I get stuck on a jay train for twenty minutes
Speaker 1: with no cell service. It's just it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're heading home and your clothes are ripped,
Speaker 1: you're bleeding, your phone is dead. One shoe is gone.
Speaker 1: You're basically crawling on the floor, and I'd be lying
Speaker 1: if I said it wasn't also sort of romantic in
Speaker 1: this way, because I am, you know, kind of Carrie
Speaker 1: Bradshaw locked out of her apartment, you know, Broad City,
Speaker 1: the gals sort of like with you know, one boob
Speaker 1: out of the bra like trying to get to the
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne concert. So you know, you win some, you
Speaker 1: lose some. But it definitely did not feel good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hurts.
Speaker 1: And I hadn't bombed it, well, I guess I hadn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I hadn't bombed in a while. It is
Speaker 1: the truth of it, I'll be.
Speaker 2: Honest, not the brag. Do you think was it just
Speaker 2: flusteredness or was it.
Speaker 1: Like that's what hurt is that it was my fault.
Speaker 1: It was I somehow went up and did not have
Speaker 1: the right energy to begin with. Said one thing. The
Speaker 1: audience immediately did not care about me. I was unable
Speaker 1: to leave the sort of vocal monotone I was like,
Speaker 1: and then I was aware of that, so I was
Speaker 1: trying to make myself sound animated, so it was like
Speaker 1: I was forcing a smile and they could also sense
Speaker 1: the inauthenticity in that, and then I actually like, like,
Speaker 1: forgot my material.
Speaker 2: Now that's classic.
Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know sometimes you actually, if you're in
Speaker 1: a good enough place, you can forget something and then
Speaker 1: roll with the punches and almost transcend and like improv
Speaker 1: on the spot. This was one of those things where
Speaker 1: would like say half a sentence and then remember that
Speaker 1: I forgot something, and then just go back and repeat
Speaker 1: it without like addressing it, and then they wouldn't laugh,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, why I said it? I said
Speaker 1: it the right way. What the fuck do you want?
Speaker 2: That's tough? Yeah, damn, I'm like bombed central these days,
Speaker 2: are you well? I've I did one show last week
Speaker 2: and bombed, and it was weird because there were coworkers there,
Speaker 2: and then everyone has to be like good job, and
Speaker 2: I have to be like thank you, because it's even
Speaker 2: worse to be like, I bombed.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something? I did that? And that
Speaker 1: was the final straw where I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: am fully like this is the biggest flop night of
Speaker 1: my life because I ran into people and you and
Speaker 1: I immediately did a whole self flag, like oh god,
Speaker 1: that was rough, like am I right? Blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and they were all like, no, you were good, and
Speaker 1: it's like, what am I doing here?
Speaker 2: Just let me just say I bombed? It's okay.
Speaker 1: Of course they can't say that. You're like, it's like
Speaker 1: you're putting them in a weird spot. Of course you
Speaker 1: did the right thing and I did the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: Like you can never start talking to someone about bombing.
Speaker 2: You literally have to go thanks, thank you. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: guess what, no one cares, No one, No one cares
Speaker 2: for even a second. Yeah, that's like the biggest lesson.
Speaker 2: That's the biggest takeaway. That should put that in the
Speaker 2: artist way. No one cares, No one cares.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if that if Julia Cameron ever tried
Speaker 1: stand up comedy, she'd be in tears in a second.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of those methods that she's so
Speaker 1: famous for would help her.
Speaker 2: Well, that's because stand up comedy is not an art.
Speaker 1: Maybe if she was a painter or a screenwriter.
Speaker 2: The cowardly art forms should we bring in. Our guests
Speaker 2: are esteemed guest who actually has never bombed in yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Never bomb Please please welcome Richard Pez for the second time.
Speaker 2: But who's counting?
Speaker 1: Returning Champ?
Speaker 2: Returning Champ? Mama, Hi, Oh my god, Hi, how are
Speaker 2: you speaking of bombing? Hi?
Speaker 3: Hi? Hi? Now sometimes it feels like I'll get on stage,
Speaker 3: I'll be like hi, and I'm just like covered in
Speaker 3: sid I like sweep myself off the stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like the ringing in your ear, like your
Speaker 2: vision has that like blur effect on it. I hate that.
Speaker 1: I wish I was the type of performer like, here's
Speaker 1: my dream. All right, this is when you act. I'm
Speaker 1: on a lineup, I have seven minutes to perform. The
Speaker 1: entire bit is that I have a series of false starts.
Speaker 1: So I like say Hi, Then I like slip and fall.
Speaker 1: Then I get up and I'm like sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Then I like get the mic, but it falls on
Speaker 1: my hand. Then I spent like, you know, two minutes
Speaker 1: trying to put it back together, and I'm like hi,
Speaker 1: and then my phone rings. I'm like, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: have to take this, but I do that, you know,
Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman style for ten full minutes.
Speaker 2: I mean that would be I've certainly tried. You've done that.
Speaker 2: I've done that before, I've done who sets where I
Speaker 2: haven't done a joke, yeah, which are my favorite sets.
Speaker 2: But then it's kind of tough because the whole point
Speaker 2: is to like have jokes.
Speaker 3: So is it?
Speaker 2: Is it? Thank you? That's actually a good point? Is it?
Speaker 1: What even is the point?
Speaker 2: What even is the point?
Speaker 3: What even is the point? Guys, let's start there. What
Speaker 3: even is what is the point?
Speaker 2: Rich? Rich?
Speaker 1: First question we have for you is what even is
Speaker 1: the point?
Speaker 3: Okay, Like I think that, Well, thank you so much
Speaker 3: for having me.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1: Stop stalling.
Speaker 3: Well it says that I'm trying to, like because thinking
Speaker 3: about what you guys were talking about with like artists
Speaker 3: way and the thoughts that kind of stop you when
Speaker 3: you're in the writing process to like persist and to continue.
Speaker 3: I feel that way about just speaking in general. So
Speaker 3: in a board meeting or whatever meeting, I don't say anything,
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to get better about that. Even if
Speaker 3: I do perform on stage and I don't say anything
Speaker 3: for like ten minutes, I'm like at a meeting where
Speaker 3: it's like, well, everyone of you, like, you know, just
Speaker 3: tell me your opinion on this or whatever, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get in a way.
Speaker 1: Would you rather send any send an email or speak
Speaker 1: up in a board meeting.
Speaker 3: I think I don't even know both feel like I'm like,
Speaker 3: I didn't get you need to be.
Speaker 1: Honest, one to say, in order for you to communicate,
Speaker 1: you have to be on a stage in front of
Speaker 1: an audience. Otherwise it's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's sold out, sold out.
Speaker 2: No, that's so true, Like I won't I can't get
Speaker 2: my point across. The show isn't sold out.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that really really is tough when the show's not
Speaker 2: sold out.
Speaker 3: But yet no, like it's just like I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like I just have a heart. Like I remember back
Speaker 3: back at UNI, when I was in art school, we
Speaker 3: would have crit uh huh, and I loved it, you know,
Speaker 3: love to hear about people's process and what they're working on,
Speaker 3: you know, unpacking some of those things together was fun
Speaker 3: for me. But I felt like I would have a
Speaker 3: thought and then of course someone else would say it
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I thought the same exact thing.
Speaker 3: And then someone the teachers like that's so true, what
Speaker 3: a great thought you had, And I'm like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I say something about that stuff? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to deal with it. This idea like,
Speaker 1: if I ever like doing an MFA and having everyone
Speaker 1: go around and say their opinions, I'm like, I respect
Speaker 1: maybe one of you, and I have to listen to
Speaker 1: what you think about my work.
Speaker 3: I mean, but maybe, like sometimes I get that, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe sometimes they would like at least like
Speaker 3: asking sure where I'm like, oh, I didn't even think
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: I am sometimes I can just stress myself out by
Speaker 2: imagining that there's a drag race, but for like gay
Speaker 2: comedians and like, and I can I can imagine the
Speaker 2: fans like hating me and loving someone else and being
Speaker 2: like middle of the road, and I can get upset
Speaker 2: at like something that doesn't even exist. I think anytime
Speaker 2: you're in comparison with people who are your peers, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get upset.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and guess what there is that it's called
Speaker 4: literally all of all of all of the audiences at
Speaker 4: the Millhouse.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: They're leaving and they're saying, this wasn't as good as
Speaker 1: when we went to Gay Guys version two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have those little note cards they give out
Speaker 2: that are like, rank this performance based on the last
Speaker 2: six performances you've seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone honestly, everyone you challenge and then RuPaul's
Speaker 1: comes out, but it's David Cross.
Speaker 3: I feel that way sometimes with some certain shows, like
Speaker 3: a homework show or something like I recently did like
Speaker 3: a Housewives like show, and I don't watch that show.
Speaker 3: I don't know that universe at all, but I agreed
Speaker 3: to it, and I was just like, oh, yeah, like
Speaker 3: this should be I'm gay, but it's it's like a
Speaker 3: table read. I'm like, okay, yeah, like easy, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll site read, but then like I once I get there,
Speaker 3: I forget that, like everyone's the huge Like people that
Speaker 3: come to the show are like fans of the of Housewives,
Speaker 3: and they there's an expectation or something and the character
Speaker 3: that I or the person that I was like reading
Speaker 3: as like as iconic lines and or whatever. Like there's
Speaker 3: these really funny moments that I was just sight reading
Speaker 3: and I was like, in real yeah, but you were
Speaker 3: figuring out like what.
Speaker 1: But I think that's better because it's like the difference
Speaker 1: between in a biopicch someone doing an impression and someone
Speaker 1: like embodying a character, Like it's like in.
Speaker 2: A lip sync when someone does the actual Corey over
Speaker 2: since someone makes up their own sy.
Speaker 3: Exactly could have done that, but I didn't. My fear
Speaker 3: got in the way, my own my critical my critical
Speaker 3: voice got in the way, and I failed that week.
Speaker 1: Oh so you were kind of like reading it in
Speaker 1: a straightforward way, as though you would be doing like
Speaker 1: a reading at a funeral.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, I wasn't filming, you, guys, I
Speaker 3: wasn't filming.
Speaker 1: And would you say it reached a point of anti
Speaker 1: comedy maybe where it was like really funny that you
Speaker 1: were speaking in a monotone or no, yeah, did it
Speaker 1: loop back around?
Speaker 3: No, it was anti comedy that like, no.
Speaker 1: One, yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 3: That's no one was laughing when I was speaking, damn,
Speaker 3: And that's really fine. It's fine. And then I got
Speaker 3: off stage. I was like, I suck, and everybody's like,
Speaker 3: I know, you were good, you were good. No, I
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I really like the idea of you doing a Real
Speaker 1: Housewives staged reading and then like being so depressed about
Speaker 1: bombing that you're going around being like I fucking suck,
Speaker 1: Like I bomb that I fucked at that, and everyone's
Speaker 1: like it's like that's not the Real Housewives reading. Like
Speaker 1: you read the words like I bombed.
Speaker 3: I bombed. At this rate, I'll never get a I
Speaker 3: don't know. Yeah, I mean I was low key a little.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't like I bombed. I bombed, but
Speaker 3: I was just kind of like I just want to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 2: That's definitely how. That's how.
Speaker 3: And I've had like there was like friends from college
Speaker 3: too that were there, Like no, I heard the people
Speaker 3: I haven't seen in a long time, and I'm like
Speaker 3: they're like, hey, but I can feel that energy of
Speaker 3: like hey, that's so fun, Like no, it really, but
Speaker 3: maybe I'm projected.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just No, it's tough to bomb in front
Speaker 2: of people that know you because it's like because they
Speaker 2: probably see you once every blank years, like literally, so
Speaker 2: it's like literally you just be like this does happen?
Speaker 2: Like it's just like I'm not this is a representation
Speaker 2: of who I am in total. That's also what's got
Speaker 2: starting is like when like you're starting and then someone
Speaker 2: that you look up to is like on the same
Speaker 2: show as you, and you're like, okay, okay, okay, this
Speaker 2: is the only time I'm going to see me and
Speaker 2: you go up and like do medium to bad and
Speaker 2: you're like, well they will for years think I suck right.
Speaker 1: You know what's worse than that, well, potentially doing really well,
Speaker 1: but then looking out in the crowd and finding the
Speaker 1: person you admire and seeing that they're not into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then and then afterwards they just like
Speaker 1: give you a little fist bump and are like, great,
Speaker 1: set man.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you can be that sounds good, actually
Speaker 2: something awesome, that sounds fun.
Speaker 1: You guys are just turned on because I did this
Speaker 1: impression of a straight guy.
Speaker 2: We're like, wait, wait, nice.
Speaker 3: Nice, thanks, how are you?
Speaker 1: I just want to say to everyone that like goes
Speaker 1: to your friend's comedy show, whatever you know. Imagine you
Speaker 1: you're a lawyer. Imagine inviting someone to see what a
Speaker 1: random day of your work is like. Sometimes you're not
Speaker 1: going to slay at that meeting, and sometimes you're not
Speaker 1: going to get the client. You're not gonna get your
Speaker 1: client the money they need. Sometimes you may even sent
Speaker 1: someone to jail. If you're a doctor, you could kill someone. Now,
Speaker 1: imagine that happens to be the day that I visit
Speaker 1: because I happened to be visiting New York from Seattle
Speaker 1: or Portland or Chicago, wherever I live, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I have a surgery that day. Come
Speaker 1: see it. I come the person dies. Does that feel good?
Speaker 1: That's my life every day?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: And you have to be like, well, I don't normally
Speaker 2: kill people, or else I wouldn't be a doctor, right exactly,
Speaker 2: like they wouldn't keep your surgeries.
Speaker 3: They're like fun, looks like you were having fun.
Speaker 1: He almost lived. Yeah, And then that person is like
Speaker 1: on their group chat with the other friends from college
Speaker 1: and they're like, how was how was George? And they're like,
Speaker 1: I mean he killed the patient, like like.
Speaker 2: He like looked good in the like like little scrubs,
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, he did kill the guy. But to
Speaker 2: be fair, the guy was like really sick.
Speaker 1: And it was definitely like cool to be in the
Speaker 1: o R. Like it all seemed like the lighting and
Speaker 1: everything seemed real. It wasn't like one of these basements.
Speaker 2: Coworkers seem nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I still picture this happening in a theater,
Speaker 3: but like around one and it's like a black box
Speaker 3: sitter on the round and then everyone's just kind of
Speaker 3: watching this like box where you're doing the operation and
Speaker 3: there's like music playing like.
Speaker 1: Very well, honey, that's the future with it with social
Speaker 1: media and how much everyone wants to be seen and
Speaker 1: and everyone's a creator now and everyone and our president
Speaker 1: is an inful.
Speaker 3: Everyone's artists, everyone's artist artists.
Speaker 1: What they're doing. They're making Instagram reels in the White House, folks,
Speaker 1: give it six years. Operations you'll have to pay, buy
Speaker 1: a ticket to attend, and you'll have to be sponsored
Speaker 1: by a brand to attend. One of the big operations.
Speaker 2: Budweiser presents Sam's appendectomy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the fucking future. People.
Speaker 1: You think you know who's handling all the ticket sales prisoners?
Speaker 2: Oh I thought you're gonna say Ticketmaster, But honey, which
Speaker 2: one's worse? I don't know. If I am my way,
Speaker 2: Ticketmaster would be in prison.
Speaker 1: Wait same snap, literally is behind that is evil.
Speaker 2: The worst part of your friends coming to see your
Speaker 2: surgery is that you're like, you like obviously kill the
Speaker 2: person that day, and so it's like such a bummer.
Speaker 2: But then there's like this nurse who like, like was
Speaker 2: really good at cleaning up the blood, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like who is that nurse? Like that nurse is really
Speaker 2: going to be somebody. I can see that nurse like
Speaker 2: like being like the best nurse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the nurse open to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I Meanwhile, you know that that nurse's mom is the
Speaker 1: head hospital administrator and that's how she got the job.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, she grew up in that culture,
Speaker 1: so she of course does a really good job of
Speaker 1: cleaning and knowing how to do you know, bedside manner
Speaker 1: and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The nurse is like twenty two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the nurse is twenty two. She's like weirdly really pretty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, you did your best.
Speaker 2: You did your best. So Richard, are you excited to
Speaker 2: go on tour? God?
Speaker 3: I love what I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Richard, you're going on tour.
Speaker 2: You're going on tour.
Speaker 3: Speaking of bombing and performances and things of that nature.
Speaker 3: I am touring.
Speaker 2: What do you think your bomb rate is going to
Speaker 2: be on tour?
Speaker 1: Yeah? If you had to guess, which cities do you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna bomb at?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know what I'm gonna say, none of them?
Speaker 3: Oh huge, none of them? Hockey bitch.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: Maybe what are you that nurse?
Speaker 1: Jesus?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm that nurse on this tour?
Speaker 1: Nurse and you.
Speaker 3: Are Wait wait I was but yeah, yeah, wait what
Speaker 3: I was doing?
Speaker 2: Unique? Unique?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm that nurse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Richard, don't you're you're leaving us after giving It's
Speaker 2: crazy where you're literally just like pretending like you don't
Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. It's like one of the
Speaker 2: most no no, no, you guys.
Speaker 1: That's the doctors they't stop and meet.
Speaker 2: That nurse.
Speaker 1: Nurse.
Speaker 2: Wow, what an incredible.
Speaker 1: Interpretation of that song. It would be if the video
Speaker 1: was Beyonce as a nurse and the plot was that
Speaker 1: all the doctors were male and they were like underestimating her,
Speaker 1: but she was actually the most amazing nurse.
Speaker 2: That would be so cool. That would be so cool,
Speaker 2: It'll be stunning. Can I tell you guys about some
Speaker 2: some a bomb that I had once? Okay, so this one.
Speaker 2: I've talked about my worst bombs that but this is
Speaker 2: more of a medium bomb that I It's kind of
Speaker 2: juicy to talk about because it was in front of
Speaker 2: past two time past guests Lisa Trager and it was
Speaker 2: so bad. It was at the cake shop, I remember,
Speaker 2: and she was guest hosting for like John it was
Speaker 2: John Kate hosted that.
Speaker 1: Maybe and she was she was one of the people
Speaker 1: who hosted it, but this was before she was a
Speaker 1: perm host. John Early, by the way, gen't really and then.
Speaker 2: So she I went up first. It's a notoriously bad
Speaker 2: show in general. There's like potentially eight people in the audience,
Speaker 2: and it was not a great vibe. I go up,
Speaker 2: eat complete shit, and she goes up as the host
Speaker 2: after me and goes, well, that was smart. I guess anyway,
Speaker 2: let's bring up our next comedian. And I was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, and it.
Speaker 3: Was so was anyone else, like slang.
Speaker 2: No, people started slaying, like maybe towards the very end,
Speaker 2: as like it finally started to feel warm, warmer.
Speaker 1: It's s Yeah, it's a fine line between like there's
Speaker 1: a way to interpret that. I mean, I will say that,
Speaker 1: you know, not her best maybe not her best comment,
Speaker 1: but there's a way to interpret that is like, we're
Speaker 1: all in this together, and isn't it such a hard show?
Speaker 1: And that there was an element of that last night
Speaker 1: where a lot of people were struggling, and so we
Speaker 1: were all trying to like make each other feel better
Speaker 1: by like affirming the other's experience. But you can't affirm
Speaker 1: it too much because then you're basically agreeing that they bombed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was raw, but that.
Speaker 1: Was really bad.
Speaker 3: I didn't laugh once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, yeah, the audience was not into that,
Speaker 1: which is not your fault because you were funny. But
Speaker 1: I agree that it was a tough room and it
Speaker 1: was for me too, don't you agree? And they're like, well, no,
Speaker 1: you did really well or would have if the audience
Speaker 1: had been different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's tough. And actually I think Lisa has
Speaker 2: a erased it. I think it didn't make an impact,
Speaker 2: but it's something where I was like she remembers, like
Speaker 2: I was like, this is like what I am in
Speaker 2: her mind.
Speaker 1: Oh she has if that. I've seen so many people
Speaker 1: we know do like bomb. It has never made an
Speaker 1: impression on me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly same. Yeah, and even like people that I'm
Speaker 3: like a fan of before, you know, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh I see them and they don't right, they have
Speaker 3: like an awkward set or it's just like not the
Speaker 3: vibe just isn't there. I'm like, oh, well, I still
Speaker 3: know they're funny. It's still and on I feel that way.
Speaker 1: And on the other side of things, if someone I
Speaker 1: think is not funny is killing what I'm thinking, is
Speaker 1: the world's going to hell in a hand basket? No
Speaker 1: one has taste anymore. I'm not it's not changing my
Speaker 1: mind about how funny they are.
Speaker 2: No, You're totally right.
Speaker 1: It actually makes me like them less because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I see, you're just appealing that low is common denominator
Speaker 1: and it's working, you stupid bitch. I'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm like, hack hack hack, no, Richard saying go ahead, sorry,
Speaker 2: as we asked as you sipped water.
Speaker 1: Richard, look wi Richard, Hello, we're podcasting.
Speaker 2: Am sorry?
Speaker 3: Sorry? So do you think that? Like how do I
Speaker 3: word it? Because like when people when people are like, uh,
Speaker 3: like the audience was thinking and it's so specific and
Speaker 3: it's like five specific things. Oh, it's because the way
Speaker 3: I said this, and then this happened, and then that
Speaker 3: and then this, This is what the audience is thinking.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, maybe there's some things where there's like
Speaker 3: and something perceptive or like intuitive about it, like sure,
Speaker 3: but I'm also like, I don't know if that's always
Speaker 3: the case, Like I think that's it's more of like
Speaker 3: your own mindset and like how you know, like you
Speaker 3: get tripped up on your own thing or like your
Speaker 3: anxieties get the best of you, or the critical voice
Speaker 3: is just really.
Speaker 1: I mean, or it could be something you don't even know,
Speaker 1: like someone could have yeah, like a phone could have
Speaker 1: vibrated in the fourth row that you didn't even hear.
Speaker 1: And then it's sort of like distracted one person and
Speaker 1: then someone looked back and in your mind that was
Speaker 1: because of something you said, but she wasn't.
Speaker 3: Right, and I'm like, oh, okay, well I guess that
Speaker 3: person hated it. And then you start thinking on that
Speaker 3: a little, like, yeah, it's it's it can be tough
Speaker 3: to navigate, but I'm just like I I think it's
Speaker 3: like there, of course is a big part of it
Speaker 3: that like comes from.
Speaker 2: So basically what you're saying is if you vomb, it's
Speaker 2: your fucking fault, bitch.
Speaker 3: Kind of so you're saying, and you know what, it's
Speaker 3: my fault. It's my all those last night last night,
Speaker 3: it's my fault.
Speaker 2: So my bomb.
Speaker 1: I get off stage. Honestly, someone in the front row,
Speaker 1: I've already gotten off stage. Some of the front road
Speaker 1: turns to me and takes out like a spray cleaner
Speaker 1: for glasses, for eyeglasses, and he goes do you need this?
Speaker 5: Whoa, that's rue And this is someone you don't even know,
Speaker 5: someone I don't even know that I guess noticed while
Speaker 5: I was on stage that my glasses were a little
Speaker 5: bit dirty, and I.
Speaker 1: Knew I did not do well. Oh and as soon
Speaker 1: as I get off, his first instinct is to offer
Speaker 1: me glasses cleaner because of.
Speaker 2: How busted my glasses look. That is so deeply messed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's shit.
Speaker 2: One time I was bombing so bad one a person
Speaker 2: offered me a shot. No, I was bombing so bad,
Speaker 2: and these guys were talking. I was like, are you
Speaker 2: will you stopped talking and they were like, we're ordering
Speaker 2: drinks and I was like, the bar is not even
Speaker 2: in this room, Like what are you talking about. They're like,
Speaker 2: we're talking about we wanted to get to drink. And
Speaker 2: they're like, do you want a shot? And I was
Speaker 2: like fine. That was the worst bomb. And then they
Speaker 2: left and Bob left and bought drinks and then I
Speaker 2: did a shot while bombing. It was one of the
Speaker 2: most horrible experiences in my life.
Speaker 3: So the first time I ever performed in like on
Speaker 3: the same show as you, Sam, I bombed, and I
Speaker 3: remember that what was it.
Speaker 2: What was the show?
Speaker 3: It was that club coming see I don't remember whose.
Speaker 1: Show, Like Sam has no recollection of that, And for you,
Speaker 1: it is something you were thinking about all these years later,
Speaker 1: and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like and this was like because that night was the
Speaker 3: first night you and I like formerly met, and you
Speaker 3: were like, oh, like you should like do the podcast,
Speaker 3: and then like a few weeks later I did it.
Speaker 1: I have that with Aaron Jackson, the first time Aaron
Speaker 1: saw me before my bomb. I'm sure he does not
Speaker 1: remember it. We are good friends, but I will never
Speaker 1: forget like saying something, everyone being silent, and then making
Speaker 1: eye contact with Aaron who was just sort of like,
Speaker 1: you know, had like an encouraging smile, but he knew
Speaker 1: what was going on. Yeah, should we do our first segment?
Speaker 2: I think that's a really good idea.
Speaker 3: Wait. Should I talk about my tour a little bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I just want to promote it a little bit?
Speaker 3: Please please?
Speaker 2: Yeah, go You're allowed.
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, welcome to a Stradio lab. Does it different
Speaker 3: with Richard Perez as your host for this segment. This
Speaker 3: segment is to promote my upcoming tour. It's for my
Speaker 3: solo show called I have to do this directed by
Speaker 3: Charlie Barday, dear friend of all of ours, and the
Speaker 3: cities that I will be visiting this spring will be,
Speaker 3: uh what is it? Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Los Angeles. I'm
Speaker 3: still figuring things out with San Francisco, aren't we all
Speaker 3: also figuring? I'm figuring things out with Pittsburgh. I'm figuring
Speaker 3: things out with Boston. But but just keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: It's uh, yeah, it's a it's a really lovely special
Speaker 3: show that I love doing. And I know we talked
Speaker 3: about bombing a lot, but I think this will be
Speaker 3: a different experience than that.
Speaker 2: I agree. I think it's thanks Richard for having me.
Speaker 3: I hope that's my that's my hope that I'm putting.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on your segment, Richard, Australia Lab
Speaker 2: but a little different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you guys want to say like one thing
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: I think this show is so good. I've never not
Speaker 2: seen it. Crush crush, crush beyond.
Speaker 3: Have you have you seen it?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I've never seen it, So let's start there. No, No,
Speaker 2: I've just seen it.
Speaker 1: Sam and I seen it together because there we saw
Speaker 1: the hall.
Speaker 2: I've seen the Union Hall versions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that was like my that was like
Speaker 3: the third time I did it. Is that true? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And Charlie and I had you guys interview.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Show rather than doing it, rather than doing a talk
Speaker 1: back at the end, we did a talk back in
Speaker 1: the beginning where we interviewed Charlie as the director of
Speaker 1: a show we haven't yet seen. Yeah, now that's all comedy.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's all comedy, mama.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was really fun. That was a
Speaker 3: great night.
Speaker 2: It was really fun.
Speaker 1: Richard. I want to say thank you for having me
Speaker 1: on your show. Straightia Lab Presents Richard promotes his tour.
Speaker 3: Thanks George, and thank you Sam for saying what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And I just want to promote I have a podcast,
Speaker 1: Straighter Lab that anyone can listen to on Apple Podcasts
Speaker 1: for Spotify, hosted with Sam Taggart, who I think has
Speaker 1: also been on the show before.
Speaker 3: And if you guys don't like this segment, you can
Speaker 3: just scrub to like, well, this will.
Speaker 1: Be released on a different I assume your show has a.
Speaker 2: Well the We've scheduled the photo shoot for the cover
Speaker 2: for this one.
Speaker 1: And we'll invoice you for that. We always when Sam
Speaker 1: and I guessed on other podcasts, we usually do a
Speaker 1: photo shoot and then invoice the host of that podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking this photo shoot is leather and lace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: That Actually you would think Sam would be leather. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to be leather and Sam is going to
Speaker 1: be in a full two two lace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to be very am I am? I?
Speaker 3: What am I wearing?
Speaker 1: Well, you're not part of this. We're doing a photo
Speaker 1: shoot as the guests of Straighter Lab Presents Richard promotes
Speaker 1: his show, and it'll be like a little photo.
Speaker 3: I don't get a picture you have like the cover
Speaker 3: art for it already.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's like to promote the
Speaker 1: specific episode, you need a headshot of us, and so
Speaker 1: we're sending you this photo shoot. Will send you many
Speaker 1: options options.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll send you a lot of options.
Speaker 3: Can I edit myself?
Speaker 2: Like? And if your face is anywhere on this fucking picture,
Speaker 2: I'm going to assue you it's not really hell and back.
Speaker 3: You won't be able to buy What if I made
Speaker 3: it cute?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What if I did a picture I like, edit it
Speaker 3: where it looks like you're in your full leather. You're
Speaker 3: in your full lace watching me on stage, enjoying the show.
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 1: I'm not really seeing the vision.
Speaker 3: Both of you are like smiling.
Speaker 2: Sounds really busy. It just sounds really busy, and it
Speaker 2: kind of goes against the leather and lathe.
Speaker 1: We want to take one thing off in a stage, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to take one thing off. And that thing
Speaker 1: is kind of the additional thing you added after we
Speaker 1: gave you the finished product. I say, let's take that
Speaker 1: off and then just go with the finished product that
Speaker 1: has been improved by legal and HR and our entire team,
Speaker 1: and we'll send you everyone that worked on it. And
Speaker 1: you can in the Instagram capturing, you know, styling at
Speaker 1: Style Girl, Makeup Ata Girl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Makeup Girl Style, Girl Craft Services, girl Craft Services.
Speaker 6: She's a doll, a doll.
Speaker 1: We met her when she was a nurse and we
Speaker 1: were performing surgeries and we said, you have such screen presents.
Speaker 1: We're taking you on tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my Godney, do you know how to work
Speaker 2: a damn grill? Yeah?
Speaker 1: By the way, Craft Services at our photo shoots are
Speaker 1: like tapas, small plates, oysters, fish, tacos. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of seafood.
Speaker 2: Actually a lot of food. Yes, we only eat fish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, veggies. One time they included a corn sauce, so
Speaker 1: we sued and we won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what you're gonna eat before you get
Speaker 3: into the leather in the lake. Lots of yeah, enduring
Speaker 3: and during, of course, it sounds like it's gonna be smelly.
Speaker 1: Our breaths are gonna smell really fishy too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna smell fishy as fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're gonna be serving serving fish. Bitch, bitch. Wow.
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna be like, is it fishy in here? Is
Speaker 2: it just me? And you're gonna be like, no, it
Speaker 2: is fishy in here.
Speaker 1: And then he's gonna be like, we're gonna breathe in
Speaker 1: this space, and it's gonna be like, oh god, excuse.
Speaker 2: Damn, fuck my god.
Speaker 3: The camera is like shaky.
Speaker 1: The photographers just like yeah, and then we're like, do
Speaker 1: you want some me?
Speaker 2: So cod.
Speaker 3: So cald, so interesting, okay, And so I.
Speaker 1: Think that concludes that segment, So Richard, our first segment
Speaker 1: is called Strade Shooters, and in this segment we ask
Speaker 1: you a series of rapid fire questions to gauge your
Speaker 1: familiarity with in complicity and straight culture, and you have
Speaker 1: to choose one thing or Oh, by the way, where
Speaker 1: can people find tickets to your tour?
Speaker 3: Oh? Thank you so much. We're going to go back
Speaker 3: to the well.
Speaker 1: This is in the mini segment where can people find
Speaker 1: tickets to promotes this tour?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm confused this is going to be in my episode?
Speaker 3: Is this going to be in.
Speaker 2: The third episode? Yeah, this is a new third episode.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Claire, we're doing a new new
Speaker 1: photo shoot, a new photo shoot to promote this third episode,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be I'm gonna I'm a robber,
Speaker 1: a bank robber, and Sam is a bank teller. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm holding I'm holding him a gun robbery kind
Speaker 1: of like Inside.
Speaker 3: Man themed, Yeah, Inside Man, and I'm Robert.
Speaker 2: Call.
Speaker 3: And it's called Clarity, Clarity, Claire. This episode of the
Speaker 3: third episode is called cla Welcome to Clarity, Welcome to Clarity,
Speaker 3: and it's and the.
Speaker 1: Theme song is if you many, my, myem me any questions?
Speaker 3: So, okay, so this is the third episode. Ok, we're
Speaker 3: talking link tree.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 3: Instagram, thank you guys for tuning in. You can go
Speaker 3: to my Instagram it's Richard Underscore Perez and you can
Speaker 3: find a link tree in the bio and that, And
Speaker 3: by the time this comes out will be like a
Speaker 3: really fun like tour poster separate from not attached to
Speaker 3: Stradio I've incorporated at all. I don't know, but it'll
Speaker 3: be completely a separate photo shoot. Sam and George will
Speaker 3: not be in the pictures or anything.
Speaker 1: We own this ip. Like the fact that you're promoting
Speaker 1: the tour on Stradio Lab means that we have to
Speaker 1: have approval of any further further like assets that will
Speaker 1: be produced from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, bitch, And it's not it's like a pretty
Speaker 2: like simple, really standard we send We'll.
Speaker 1: Send you the lawyer and it has to go through
Speaker 1: makeup girl style. Everyone involved in our photoshoots also has
Speaker 1: to approve any third party assets.
Speaker 3: Yeah for my own images.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as you game on this show, all
Speaker 2: creative projects became part of the studio inc mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, So in the forums we sent you and I
Speaker 1: actually don't really want to like figure it out on air,
Speaker 1: It's like you can go read them, you've already signed them,
Speaker 1: and like we have a limited amount of time in
Speaker 1: the studio, and I'm not going to be going through
Speaker 1: paperwork with you right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we have Okay, okay, okay, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to fight because that's not what I came here to do.
Speaker 3: I don't want to fight with you right now. I
Speaker 3: just am trying to on this third episode, I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to bring some clarity to anyone that's confused, that's
Speaker 3: listened to it, that.
Speaker 1: Clary tragedy. Sorry, whenever you say clarity, Whenever you whenever
Speaker 1: someone says clarity by contract because we're sponsors on Clarity,
Speaker 1: whenever someone says the word clarity, that song starts playing.
Speaker 3: It's almost like that, but it's clear.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it'll be on the link tree in the bio.
Speaker 3: And I guess now with this amendment, I guess I'll
Speaker 3: have to change the tour image.
Speaker 1: So it's okay, there's still time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still plenty of it.
Speaker 1: And when does the tour start?
Speaker 3: The tour? The tour starts, God, it starts March twenty sixth, sixth, sixth.
Speaker 3: That's a hard word for that's a really tough word.
Speaker 1: Six It starts March twenty sixth, six aries.
Speaker 3: How do you say it?
Speaker 1: March twenty sixth, Sam, You're doing a really good job
Speaker 1: with your lisp. It's actually like almost gone.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go back, Let's start a new episode of
Speaker 2: our podcast and go do our first segment.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's start a new episode, I think, and let's
Speaker 1: actually scrap those three.
Speaker 2: I wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think we can use them for Patreon
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got network notes network notes, and they really
Speaker 2: didn't like it. I'm reading the network notes now and
Speaker 2: I actually can't read them out loud because they're pretty cruel.
Speaker 1: And Richard, we think you have such a unique voice,
Speaker 1: like we've always loved you.
Speaker 2: We've always felt that way.
Speaker 1: We find ourselves though, being kind of the only ones
Speaker 1: in the room that do.
Speaker 2: It's just tough when a voice is so unique, It's like,
Speaker 2: who will this connect with? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes unique is not necessarily good unique.
Speaker 3: That was the song you were singing.
Speaker 2: That was the song.
Speaker 3: So now in this podcast, whenever I hear unique, I'll
Speaker 3: go nurse.
Speaker 2: That's right. Also, you know, it's funny. I wonder if
Speaker 2: people that go to that live and say England who
Speaker 2: go to Uni. Go uniqu.
Speaker 3: Ni back in Uni. We met in Uni.
Speaker 2: That's where you are.
Speaker 7: Unique.
Speaker 3: Get on the tube towards Uni.
Speaker 1: I'm that bad.
Speaker 3: From Uni. Oh I love that? All right, My cast
Speaker 3: starts now, okay, podcast podcast start.
Speaker 2: I want to introduce her first segment, our first second
Speaker 2: culture Shooters and the same We're going to ask you shues.
Speaker 2: You have a five questions this thing or the other thing.
Speaker 2: The only follow ups. You can't ask an follow up questions.
Speaker 2: I'll scream at you so fucking loud.
Speaker 3: Are you fucking kidding?
Speaker 1: Richard? This is a children's show. You can't say the
Speaker 1: f slur.
Speaker 2: We just fun.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is crazy. I'm just like overwhelmed. No,
Speaker 3: I know, it's just like too many things are going
Speaker 3: are you okay? No, I'm fine. It's just like a
Speaker 3: lot of like we just recorded so many episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm just like we have to bank them though, because
Speaker 1: Sam and I have really busy schedules, like we'll do
Speaker 1: like three, four, five, six in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, let's do our for at segment and
Speaker 2: then we can go back to doing a bit Okay, fine, Okay,
Speaker 2: Richard Stiggy's yogurt or Piggy pudding.
Speaker 3: I actually did not hear what you said with the
Speaker 3: first one, but I'll say the second one.
Speaker 7: Okay, rich bitch, Richard, pay attention, No it did, Okay,
Speaker 7: attention Okay.
Speaker 1: Calling triple A or eating Chipotle a.
Speaker 3: Wo I love that these ryes eating Chole okay, Richard.
Speaker 2: Signing up for a mailing list, or saying up with
Speaker 2: a little lisp.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say sup with the little list.
Speaker 1: Richard, ADHD or all eyes on me in the center
Speaker 1: of the ring just like a circus.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: All the second ones are like, I'm gonna do you
Speaker 3: think people.
Speaker 1: With ADHD like shouldn't have rights or like be recognized
Speaker 1: as people by the state. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3: Those are the rules of the game.
Speaker 2: Is that you want any.
Speaker 1: Follow up questions.
Speaker 2: You pick one to have rights, you pick one to
Speaker 2: have right, you pick one to have right. No one's
Speaker 2: ever figured out what this game is, and basically you're
Speaker 2: picking which one has rights.
Speaker 1: Damn, Richard, you finally unlocked it. It's the way the
Speaker 1: game works. You have to pick one of the two
Speaker 1: to have rights.
Speaker 2: Don't make me choose okay, Richard, the lost daughter or
Speaker 2: the found footage. That's good?
Speaker 3: Whoa the lost daughter?
Speaker 1: That was a really difficult one. Richard going on a
Speaker 1: booze cruise, or being addicted to youtubees.
Speaker 3: Being addicted to YouTube?
Speaker 2: Okay, Richard, the fast and the furious, or a cat
Speaker 2: who is curious?
Speaker 3: My cat, who's curious?
Speaker 1: Life is good? Or wife make food?
Speaker 3: I say life is good?
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks? Oh so, wait, the wife doesn't deserve rights?
Speaker 3: I thought we changed the rules. Don't make me sound bad, Hi, Richard,
Speaker 3: don't make me sound bad.
Speaker 2: I'm here.
Speaker 1: This is the fourth podcast recording. You think women don't
Speaker 1: deserve rights. You think people with the eighty agent you
Speaker 1: got the serve to be legally recognized by the state.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is.
Speaker 2: Crazy, you guys.
Speaker 3: First of all, I thought this was the fifth episode.
Speaker 3: I'm just so confused. And then now you're trying to
Speaker 3: make me sound bad.
Speaker 1: Where's makeup girl?
Speaker 3: Makeup girl? Or look there's a squirrel.
Speaker 2: Don't mock us.
Speaker 1: I just want And by the way, here's your officials.
Speaker 1: Here's your official score. Your official score disqualified from zero
Speaker 1: to one thousand of your official score is disqualified.
Speaker 2: No, is that the low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, congratulations.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel like I just bomb.
Speaker 2: I'm so it wasn't you.
Speaker 1: It was a crowd. It's just like a I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the fifth recording of the day. Like we're also
Speaker 1: not doing great, but also you are doing so well,
Speaker 1: but you're crushing. But like the reason doesn't like is
Speaker 1: because of other things not in your control. You know
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with you, so pretty much that.
Speaker 2: Should we do our topic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would actually love it, Richard, if you could
Speaker 1: tell us what your straight topic is and what's straight
Speaker 1: about it. And I know this is your least favorite
Speaker 1: part of it because you hate put it being put
Speaker 1: on the spot. You knew this was coming.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, like, you know, my idea
Speaker 3: is like, Okay, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna try
Speaker 3: to go try to go for it. Hi, guys for
Speaker 3: listening to Thanks for listening to this portion of the episode.
Speaker 2: I mean of the recording.
Speaker 3: And my topic for today's radio lab is with let's
Speaker 3: say it all at the same time. One, two, three, toys.
Speaker 2: Toys.
Speaker 1: That's me saying brattycers is boys, but it's toys.
Speaker 3: Look at how they look at it. Looks like everyone
Speaker 3: needs one toys, toys.
Speaker 1: I've been busy thinking about toys, toys.
Speaker 3: Blocks, doll always busy thinking about action figures.
Speaker 2: Legos, Richard, what about toys is straight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I think I grew up playing just a
Speaker 3: little like contacts, Like I grew up playing with toys,
Speaker 3: playing with toys and looking.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something I said last night that
Speaker 1: I thought I trust set off the cuff and it
Speaker 1: bombed so hard. Sorry, and then we'll go back to
Speaker 1: toys because I just thought of the phrase I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with when politicians are like, and that's personal to me,
Speaker 1: Like it's like when they're talking about helping them, like
Speaker 1: that's personal to me. So I said something about like
Speaker 1: I was like talking about getting married, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, and same sex marriage is personal to me,
Speaker 1: And I thought that that would like be something. I
Speaker 1: understand that it's not a complete joke, but I thought
Speaker 1: that like people would like get the reference and the
Speaker 1: way people were looking at me completely blank anyway, So
Speaker 1: toys are personal.
Speaker 3: For you, Yes, toys are personal for me because I
Speaker 3: grew up playing them with them, and I probably grew
Speaker 3: up playing with toys till I was like sixteen on
Speaker 3: if I'm being honest. But when I was like thinking
Speaker 3: about picking a topic, I was like, well, toys are
Speaker 3: like when toys are brought into your life at least
Speaker 3: an hour generation and generations before. I don't know what
Speaker 3: people are what toys look like now necessarily, but I
Speaker 3: feel like instantly it's like it adheres to like gender
Speaker 3: stuff and like yes, how or normal, Like it's instantly
Speaker 3: like Okay, you're gonna play with these toys like right
Speaker 3: off the bat, and it's like not really like it
Speaker 3: just happens, and I'm like, oh, I have hot Wheel totally,
Speaker 3: and I have this, and then you do kind of
Speaker 3: find your taste sometimes, like you know, and also like
Speaker 3: if you have like a sister or something who has
Speaker 3: toy and you can mix toys and be like okay,
Speaker 3: like I have a Barbie in this universe that I'm building,
Speaker 3: Like there's some of that, but I think that, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think toys have a heteronormative nature to them.
Speaker 2: When you were a child, if you can remember back
Speaker 2: this far, was there ever a like toy that you
Speaker 2: had where it was like, oh, he's gonna be LGBTQ plus.
Speaker 1: Richard's parents in the early nineties being like, is he LGBTQ.
Speaker 3: Plus I mean low key? Because my mom she worked
Speaker 3: at Toys r Us.
Speaker 1: So it's personal for you.
Speaker 2: This is personal for you. This is yeah.
Speaker 3: She worked at Toys r US for a little bit
Speaker 3: when when I was growing up, and she was like
Speaker 3: in like the she did something in like stock room
Speaker 3: or something, and she would like get us toys sometimes.
Speaker 3: And also like her and my dad separated when I
Speaker 3: was like really little, so like he kind of would
Speaker 3: like spoil us a little bit and be like, I'm dad,
Speaker 3: I'm fun. Here's toys, you know, And I'd be like yeah.
Speaker 3: And so I was obsessed with Toy Story the movie,
Speaker 3: and I wanted and my dad got me like me
Speaker 3: and my brother, you know, most of the characters from that,
Speaker 3: most of the cast. But we didn't have bo Peep.
Speaker 3: And I wanted bo Peep.
Speaker 2: Really really bad.
Speaker 3: And so I'm asking my mom if she could like
Speaker 3: hook it up from her job at Toys r US.
Speaker 3: I was like, and so I was like, did you
Speaker 3: get bo Peep? Mom? Did you get bo Peep? Mom?
Speaker 3: Did you get bo Peep? And then one day we're
Speaker 3: on a family vacation or We're like driving to the
Speaker 3: beach in Jersey and like, my mom has on like
Speaker 3: a cassette tape, but she played in the car and
Speaker 3: it's whatever her music, and then it just cuts and
Speaker 3: it's this audio of me being like, Mom, did you
Speaker 3: get bo peep? Mom? Did you get peep? She was
Speaker 3: secretly recording me asking her about that, and everyone laughed, wait.
Speaker 1: Which I assumed she was secret recording because she wanted
Speaker 1: to remember what you asked for. Was she doing it too?
Speaker 2: Might have been.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was to bully me.
Speaker 1: Was she being like, doesn't Richard sound LGBTQ plus in
Speaker 1: this clip?
Speaker 3: I think that was it. She was looking for evidence?
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 2: She's like, I've got it. I'm going to the cops.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm not sure why she recorded it,
Speaker 3: but but yeah, And I remember I was like really embarrassed. Yea,
Speaker 3: And she was like I'm sorry, but but yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound gay here, like I'm sorry, but you
Speaker 2: do sound gay.
Speaker 1: Here, like don't shoot the messenger and I love you,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you do sound gay.
Speaker 3: You sound a little gay wanting this ship?
Speaker 2: So so did you ever get it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't think I did. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I remember why you're a comedian, and that's where that's
Speaker 1: why you're searching for both people.
Speaker 3: You still didn't think I was gonna get so personal.
Speaker 2: Well, it's personal to you personal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. This topic is toys are very personal
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Toys are personal to you because you were given them
Speaker 1: by both your father and your mother, and in that sense,
Speaker 1: they re uh, you know, like reified the gender binary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because as it you were, like, toys can come from
Speaker 1: two places, man or woman literally literally.
Speaker 2: Okay, Richard, I have another question if you remember childhood,
Speaker 2: but you're already doing such a good job of Yeah,
Speaker 2: was there ever a toy that you had that you
Speaker 2: really loved that said, Wow, our boy is gonna be
Speaker 2: fucking straight as hell. This guy's gonna fucking pound poon
Speaker 2: in a way that no one else ever has.
Speaker 3: Probably the first thing that jumps to mine is like
Speaker 3: Spider Man's like abs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a toy, just Spider Man's Abs.
Speaker 1: No, I had like broken toys.
Speaker 3: They're scary like Sid like sid and uh toy story.
Speaker 2: My favorite toy is Spider Man's abs abs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Spider Man, But I felt like I was.
Speaker 3: I remember just being really like like fixated on his body.
Speaker 3: He had a really you know, he had a nice body.
Speaker 1: He had a really tight but it was sort of
Speaker 1: more Twinkie like you weren't into like Superman.
Speaker 3: No, he was like he was like upside down triangle,
Speaker 3: like like big shoulders, little ways.
Speaker 1: Like that's not really true to what I can that
Speaker 1: what you know, what I grew up with.
Speaker 3: Well, this was the nineties.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, yeah, George, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I tell you, like, yeah, I think spider Man, this
Speaker 3: is before before time.
Speaker 2: You've been like so poisoned by the media, like you
Speaker 2: have such different expectations of what Spider Man should Even so, do.
Speaker 1: You think Peter Parker is like a meathead?
Speaker 2: Look, we're not saying that. We're just saying he's like.
Speaker 6: He just has brod shoulders, bubble broad shoulders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, yeah, he's kind of like, Well, I.
Speaker 1: Will say to sort of bring it to toys as straight,
Speaker 1: toys as straight I do think you're absolutely right. The
Speaker 1: toys are one of the first avenues through which children
Speaker 1: are introduced to gender roles and to gender differences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did y'all play with toys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that I believe we did.
Speaker 2: So this is actual really personal to both of us
Speaker 2: because we actually played with toy We.
Speaker 1: Both played with toys. One of the first things we
Speaker 1: bonded over.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll never forget meeting Georgia, our Wicked Lady in
Speaker 2: Bushwick and going, wait a minute, did so? Oh no?
Speaker 2: I was like, God, I was so weird growing up,
Speaker 2: Like I love toys? Were I love toys? Yeah?
Speaker 1: When I could tell you know, I said you were different?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like And I was like, hold on, did
Speaker 2: you play with toys?
Speaker 1: And then we've been in separate, in separable ever since.
Speaker 2: I do have a toy story of my own. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've told you on this pod before,
Speaker 2: but when I was really young, I was obsessed, obsessed,
Speaker 2: obsessed with Little Mermaid toys, which was my big single
Speaker 2: that I was going to be an LGBT plus American.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: To the point where I was like maybe like three,
Speaker 2: and I dropped my Little Mermaid in the pool and
Speaker 2: I fell in the pool to try to get it,
Speaker 2: and the life card had to save me. Oh no.
Speaker 1: And then at the end he was like probably like so,
Speaker 1: like how did you get is everything okay? And you
Speaker 1: were like my mermaid.
Speaker 3: He's like this kid.
Speaker 2: Is bro pause bro you old you BTQ plus. But
Speaker 2: there was my mom always the story. Well, it's funny.
Speaker 2: She used to tell it, like like when I was straight,
Speaker 2: she would be like, you know, you're like people would say,
Speaker 2: don't play with that because you know it'll make him gay.
Speaker 2: It'll make him gay. Don't let him play with those dolls.
Speaker 2: And we showed them.
Speaker 1: That is such a funny way of being accepting, being
Speaker 1: like I was a progressive parent because I knew he
Speaker 1: was straight, Like you couldn't play with dolls, he could
Speaker 1: put on dresses. Who cares? Like I knew my boy
Speaker 1: was straight.
Speaker 3: That's so funny.
Speaker 2: But I was obsessed with Mermaids, in particular the hair underwater.
Speaker 2: I had like multiple Mermaid dolls the hair underwater, So yeah,
Speaker 2: haul to me.
Speaker 3: And I love the bikini top.
Speaker 2: And I love the bikini top.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: It's so devilicious stepa Trump.
Speaker 3: It is fab Yeah, especially seeing the way like the
Speaker 3: hair move around and dancing, just dancing.
Speaker 2: I just fill up the sink dipper in there. Watch
Speaker 2: the hair flow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, I want like I love.
Speaker 1: Just practicing disrespecting women's bodily autonomy, as as white gay
Speaker 1: men in our later life when we're just Oh, give
Speaker 1: us another album. Oh, get back in the studio, bitch.
Speaker 2: Oh you flopped.
Speaker 1: Oh your song, your song didn't charge.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 1: This is a thread of Katie Perry's worst moments. That's
Speaker 1: all because of Pal.
Speaker 2: George. You have an LGBTQ plus toy story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 1: I loved toys. It's actually per call for me.
Speaker 2: So this is really personal, really personal for me.
Speaker 3: I didn't know we had so much to gain.
Speaker 2: This is like so personal to all of it.
Speaker 1: It's really personal for me. I would say I loved
Speaker 1: Power Rangers. I was obsessed with like the way that
Speaker 1: their heads would switch from costume to not costume. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Of course, I love the Power Angers toys.
Speaker 1: I love the Power Rangers. I loved uh Like, did
Speaker 1: they have Action Man in the US?
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with this, Okay, it's just like.
Speaker 1: A It's an action figure who was kind of military coded.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. Sounds not very thought out for sure.
Speaker 2: Action Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was so hot, So I would make
Speaker 1: Action Man in my sister's barbies have sex and even
Speaker 1: threesomes because I actually only had one Action Man, but
Speaker 1: I had my sisters had probably like over five barbies.
Speaker 1: If I were to guess, well.
Speaker 2: That's cool that you had polytoys, that's really Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of it, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of toxic in this way where like the man was
Speaker 1: had a harem of women rather than a bit it
Speaker 1: was a bit religious in the Yeah, it was more
Speaker 1: that rather than like kind of latigra queer polyamory.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I had that, but I so obviously, yes,
Speaker 1: girl toys are dolls. Girl toys are like kitchen appliances,
Speaker 1: easy bake oven, and then boy toys are cars, trucks,
Speaker 1: action figures, guns. Yeah, so we can all agree on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of toys.
Speaker 1: One of the parts of toys that was again so
Speaker 1: personal to me was the kind of sublime of going
Speaker 1: into a toy store. There is something that as a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what church must feel like to
Speaker 1: someone who was religious. Did you, like, did you ever
Speaker 1: go to just like a big, big big toys like
Speaker 1: I have a memory of like toys or yeah, like
Speaker 1: toys r us like my pay. So when we before
Speaker 1: we originally moved here. The first time I came to
Speaker 1: New York, we went to Fao Schwartz and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is America, Like I can't.
Speaker 2: Still have never been either, is it, George, You're so privileged?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I went when I was like six
Speaker 1: years old.
Speaker 2: Fuck, we've never even been.
Speaker 3: We've never been.
Speaker 1: And I was told from a young age, and I
Speaker 1: really internalized this that the toys were of a higher quality.
Speaker 1: My parents were like, you know all these other toys
Speaker 1: made in China. At Fao Schwartz, there are elves basically
Speaker 1: making them backstage.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And so we got these two stuffed animals. One was
Speaker 1: a hippo, one was a dolphin. And the way that
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to take good care of
Speaker 1: these because they're going to be worth millions one day.
Speaker 1: And I still have them and they look pristine, to
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 2: And they're worth millions, and they're worth millions. I actually
Speaker 2: one of the darker things about childhood is how early
Speaker 2: you worry about the worth of your toy.
Speaker 1: Like a producer is saying, oh my god. Olivia's parents
Speaker 1: told her fo Schwartz was a museum and she couldn't
Speaker 1: touch anything.
Speaker 3: I mean, but it was sort of it you can't touch.
Speaker 1: So you've still never been to Fao Schwartz. I maybe
Speaker 1: I was just so young that it made an impression
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 3: Is it's still open?
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. And if it is, then
Speaker 1: it's under like you know, probably owned by some venture
Speaker 1: capital firm, so we'll never get to go.
Speaker 2: Basically, never get to go at.
Speaker 1: Its best though. You know, it was like you wouldn't
Speaker 1: believe now here, you don't you want to know my
Speaker 1: white whale. And with toys, uh huh m hm, the
Speaker 1: Spice Girls barbies you had this? Why they didn't have them?
Speaker 1: I knew that would be too LGBTQ plus for me
Speaker 1: to even ask for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right, you said, honey, that's even too LGBTQ
Speaker 2: plus for me. Yes, and I'm LGBTQ plus.
Speaker 1: But you know what I did is when my sister
Speaker 1: was born, I they told me I could get her
Speaker 1: a gift, and I got her the Britney Spears barbie
Speaker 1: so I could play with it myself.
Speaker 2: Smart, very smart, of course, very very smart. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I remember. Britney Spears was like the first album I
Speaker 3: ever own.
Speaker 1: Mine was Spice Girl, So again, what was your sam?
Speaker 2: I think it might have been Backstreet Boys cut maybe
Speaker 2: Millennium even.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm on the uh. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but I'm on the press list for the Sphere in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and so they tell me whenever there's a
Speaker 1: new residency there, and the Backstreet Boys are doing Millennium
Speaker 1: there like three weeks and they recreated the photo shoot
Speaker 1: where they're all wearing all white in front of like
Speaker 1: a silver and white background.
Speaker 2: Wow, let's go, let's go, let's fucking go.
Speaker 3: But guys, I'm torn.
Speaker 2: I'm sort out of Vegas Day, Vegas Da Vegas Day.
Speaker 1: Outside of the Sphere, I'm having so much fun being loose,
Speaker 1: And then there's a part of me that's like, I
Speaker 1: actually think toys as straight culture is so smart that
Speaker 1: I want to like really really get into.
Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean, Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: I want to say, I think it's funny when boys
Speaker 2: just do love trucks. You'm always like, huh so it's
Speaker 2: like just that literal huh like, and no one.
Speaker 1: Wants to talk about this. Of course, not all boys
Speaker 1: love trucks, but boys not all boys. But the thing
Speaker 1: is eighty percent of them literally do deeply and with
Speaker 1: an uncontrollable urge to just what.
Speaker 2: What is that? That like scares me the way that
Speaker 2: boys loved Truck.
Speaker 3: It didn't happen to me.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen.
Speaker 3: I love people, God, I love I love dinner Party creatures,
Speaker 3: I love Pikachu, I love like Peep.
Speaker 2: I actually think Pokemon is an interesting that bridges the
Speaker 2: gap because boys girls.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's such a good point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pokemon was everything.
Speaker 2: Well, of course there's a girl Pokemon.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Yeah, you raise your hand in
Speaker 1: the classroom, you say, I like jiggly Puff. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be bullied out of the entire state.
Speaker 3: Video games like picking like Super Smash Bro was like
Speaker 3: picking which characters and I'm like, oh, I want to
Speaker 3: be like what's her name, like Zelda, or there's one
Speaker 3: Chic or whatever her name is, like she turns into
Speaker 3: Chic and I'm like, I want to do that one,
Speaker 3: and I would do it.
Speaker 1: Here's the question, because I think this is a little counterintuitive.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's straight or gay to be like
Speaker 1: a progressive mom who's overly concerned about what gender norms
Speaker 1: the toys are instilling in her kids. Because I actually
Speaker 1: think that's very straight. It's a very straight woman who
Speaker 1: went to Barnard and thinks that it like is paying
Speaker 1: so much attention to whether he or not her kids
Speaker 1: play with dolls or trucks.
Speaker 2: To me, it's still gay.
Speaker 3: To me, I agree, I think it's Wait, so toys
Speaker 3: are gay?
Speaker 1: Toys are like imagine a mom, imagine a mom that's
Speaker 1: like we sorr. I remember this actually when when we
Speaker 1: were young, there was this line in this sort of
Speaker 1: like rich person toy story, there was a line of
Speaker 1: like Barbie like dolls called Smarties Smarties because they were
Speaker 1: smart and each of them had a different high power job,
Speaker 1: so there was like lawyer, doctor. Now one might ask,
Speaker 1: doesn't Barbie also have those jobs? Yes, but this was like,
Speaker 1: you know, branded in a way to be feminist, and
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like, I wouldn't buy that for
Speaker 1: my kids.
Speaker 2: Well, there's something that's like overthinking that, like the gender neutrality,
Speaker 2: and yeah, what does this mean for my kid? I
Speaker 2: think it's so LGBTQ.
Speaker 1: Plus, Yeah, it's true, you're right.
Speaker 2: In a way that's like admirable, but also is like
Speaker 2: chill out, like there is something where it's like it's fine,
Speaker 2: like it's actually fine either way.
Speaker 1: I'm also always worried that kids are going to rebel
Speaker 1: against whatever they are raised with, which is why legitimately,
Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding, can't raise them too progressively because
Speaker 1: they will become right wing. Like you actually have to
Speaker 1: raise kids as neutrallly as.
Speaker 3: Possible, be like, hey, play with these toys, you yeah,
Speaker 3: like play with this truck, Like you have.
Speaker 1: To tell them trucks are for boys, and dolls are.
Speaker 3: For yeah, blue blue, blue.
Speaker 1: Them if they don't like their assign.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really fun. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean fuck y'ah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: I love toys so much and I just want to
Speaker 3: play with them again, you know, actually recently, not recently.
Speaker 3: This was a few years ago when am I saying
Speaker 3: my cousin, like we used to all play together, like
Speaker 3: my brothers, my cousin, my neighbors, Like we'd play like
Speaker 3: cops and robbers, or they come up with these games
Speaker 3: or like different scenarios where like like we're in a
Speaker 3: castle and we have to whatever, defend like whatever. And
Speaker 3: I was always cast or usually I was cast as
Speaker 3: like the bad guy or like the villain and to defeat.
Speaker 3: And I think I was just like I had fun
Speaker 3: doing that and just kind of playing into that character.
Speaker 3: But my cousin thinks that like that has that like
Speaker 3: speaks to like my like queerness. Oh interesting or something
Speaker 3: like you know, like a Disney villain gay or whatever
Speaker 3: the way, like being like you'll.
Speaker 8: Never you'll never figure this one out and then it's
Speaker 8: a gotam and then and they all went, well, it
Speaker 8: certainly speaks to you being a performer, that's true.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a meteor role. Yeah, you're losing yourself in character.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I would feel that way with like toys,
Speaker 3: like I would be put in those similar dynamics like
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, like we're playing with toys and and
Speaker 3: I have to lose.
Speaker 2: Wait what because because.
Speaker 1: Because you're the villain, so like the narrative demands that
Speaker 1: ultimately you don't get your way. Yeah, oh that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Because what message for that sound if the villain won?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a LGBTQ positive one.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 9: Toys, toys, toys, I like toys, toys, toys in BS,
Speaker 9: toys and bars.
Speaker 3: George Froes, George Oh, my God, hold on, George, George, George, George, George, George, George, George.
Speaker 2: We like George George.
Speaker 3: George bias. We love him, we love him.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm back.
Speaker 2: Oh you missed it.
Speaker 3: We just didn't run it.
Speaker 1: I heard George, George George and then and then I
Speaker 1: cut Okay. I was sort of contemplating bringing it to
Speaker 1: a place of.
Speaker 2: Like the way queer.
Speaker 1: Tender, queer people talk about sex toys and whether that
Speaker 1: is related to toys.
Speaker 2: Actually, glad you're going here, And so.
Speaker 1: I know I'm coming at this in a sort of
Speaker 1: like already, I don't feel confident. It's it's it's a
Speaker 1: flaccid suggestion, but I'm like there is something there, because
Speaker 1: there's something. And I would almost go so far as
Speaker 1: to say this has to do with like sex positivity
Speaker 1: writ large, where it's kind of like bringing a childlike
Speaker 1: wonder to sex.
Speaker 2: I find it mostly like a cringey approach to sex.
Speaker 2: Like I think there's such a thing as a sex nerd.
Speaker 2: This is a theory I've been working on. And I
Speaker 2: think like a sex nerd really makes sex unsexy. And
Speaker 2: and I think when someone's really like, you know, like
Speaker 2: try using a toy to or you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to get into toys and like make sure the
Speaker 2: toy is a quality toy. Like they're saying, like toy
Speaker 2: with this way, I get like grossed out by it
Speaker 2: and like it's like I don't think of it as
Speaker 2: a sex toy. I think it's a sex tool.
Speaker 1: I like, you know, a serious business.
Speaker 2: It's serious business, and it's like has a use and
Speaker 2: a purpose, like I don't take them out and I'm like,
Speaker 2: how fun, let's let's play with this toy. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's like opening up a hole or being a hole.
Speaker 2: Like it is, like it's not a it's not like
Speaker 2: creating imagination. It's simply like a tool for physically feeling
Speaker 2: different things.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, and also bringing this childlike energy into sex
Speaker 1: is like I of course understand the instinct to destigmatize
Speaker 1: it because it should not be shameful, but of course
Speaker 1: what's exciting about it is that it's forbidden. So if
Speaker 1: you bring in if you're like, oh, toys, Oh we're cuddling,
Speaker 1: Oh cuddle party like blah blah blah, then it's like okay,
Speaker 1: well now I feel weird because it feels like you're
Speaker 1: talking to me like I'm a kindergartener.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know any of this really, You're like,
Speaker 3: I don't kind of just I feel Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm just far away from this topic.
Speaker 2: What do you mean sex? Have you had sex?
Speaker 3: I forget honestly at this point.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: If you asked me five years ago, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: That would have maybe said something else.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do our final segment.
Speaker 2: I have a shout out. Okay. I finally was called
Speaker 2: shout Outs, and in this segment, we pay and watch
Speaker 2: the Grand Street vision of the radio shout out and
Speaker 2: shout out anything that we enjoy. People play sustinct ideas
Speaker 2: and I thought I didn't have one, but I actually
Speaker 2: do have one, and I'm excited to do it. Okay,
Speaker 2: do it? What's up freaks, losers, perverts all around the
Speaker 2: globe from seed to Shining Sea. I want to give
Speaker 2: a huge shout out to the John Early, Kate Burnlanout
Speaker 2: Peacock special that Richard is in called would It Kill
Speaker 2: You to Laugh? I watched this last Weekend for the
Speaker 2: first time. Yes, it came out three years ago, so
Speaker 2: what was so assuming? I watched this for the first
Speaker 2: time last weekend, and I was saying, Damn, this is
Speaker 2: funny as hell. I you know, John and Kate are
Speaker 2: already well respected in our community, and but it's so
Speaker 2: they're so funny, and you watch it and you're like,
Speaker 2: it's so fun it's so funny, it's well performed, it's
Speaker 2: well written, it's playful. I'm so in awe. And I
Speaker 2: was like, damn, they really did it. And honestly, I
Speaker 2: was like, I can't believe this isn't more popular. I
Speaker 2: think this should be a damn classic. And it was
Speaker 2: so good. Richard, You're incredible in it, of course, And
Speaker 2: I think if you never watched it, because it came on,
Speaker 2: I think when Peacock was quite new, and so maybe
Speaker 2: it was like kind of it was like where do
Speaker 2: I watch it? What's Peacock now? But you probably have
Speaker 2: Peacock now to watch Traders? And I want to say,
Speaker 2: go ahead and watch. Would it kill you to laugh?
Speaker 2: It is great? Xoxo Sam.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's literally a miracle when good things
Speaker 1: get made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you people don't know.
Speaker 1: I like you fucking literally you don't know. You think
Speaker 1: you know, you think you're like, oh, yes, we get it.
Speaker 1: Like Hollywood is consolidated and uh sort of like evil
Speaker 1: people with bad taste for making decisions. It is quite literally,
Speaker 1: not exaggerating, twenty times worse than you think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Honestly, like most movies or anything I watch, I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's amazing it happened. Yes, No, I know, I know,
Speaker 3: which if there's like anything good in it, I'm not
Speaker 3: quick to be like I hate that. Yeah, so, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, it depends. I feel like I'm like, whoa, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm quick to do that if it's like a Star
Speaker 3: Wars property or like I'm.
Speaker 2: Quick to hate on like Marvels, like big big things.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right right, But even that, I obviously I
Speaker 1: am too. But then you just think about all the
Speaker 1: people that were employed and how it all came together,
Speaker 1: even if it's a terrible movie, the fact that it
Speaker 1: all just came together to produce like a two hour
Speaker 1: piece of entertainment. I would love to see the Trump
Speaker 1: administration produce one Marvel movie because they couldn't.
Speaker 2: They couldn't not with boj Okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go what's up, cinephiles, butletterbox users around the world,
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to the film
Speaker 1: The House of Yes. Of course I knew this was
Speaker 1: a cult classic. The cover of Parker Posi holding the
Speaker 1: gun behind her back wearing the Jackie olok is a
Speaker 1: classic early Blockbuster memory. I remember looking at that and
Speaker 1: being like, that is inappropriate for me. I can tell
Speaker 1: that that's like somehow not safe for kids, and at
Speaker 1: the time I was playing with toy so this is
Speaker 1: personal for me. I watched it for the very first
Speaker 1: time last night, and I have to admit I had
Speaker 1: no idea what it was about. It is so much
Speaker 1: more crazy and fucked up than I thought, and it
Speaker 1: is so weird. It is such a specifically, it has
Speaker 1: such a specific nineties indie energy. It is Parker Posy
Speaker 1: at her finest. And I specifically want to give a
Speaker 1: shout out to Tory Spelling's performance. She's a really good
Speaker 1: comedic actress, and she's also really good in the movie,
Speaker 1: which I have shouted at on the pod before. I
Speaker 1: know that you know, her life has not gone the
Speaker 1: way she has wanted it to go, and I don't
Speaker 1: think you exactly. I don't think she'll be making her
Speaker 1: return to the screen or stage anytime soon, but there
Speaker 1: is footage of her acting, and she is good and
Speaker 1: I enjoyed her performance, and I think she has some
Speaker 1: screen presence, sue me. So shout out to Tori Spelling,
Speaker 1: of course, her memoir storytelling and the film The House
Speaker 1: of Yes. Is it a House of Yes or the
Speaker 1: House of Yes.
Speaker 2: I've actually never seen it and I don't know it.
Speaker 3: House yet House of Yes.
Speaker 2: So that's crazy because I just thought that was a
Speaker 2: venue in Bushwick.
Speaker 1: It's the House of Yes.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Wait do you?
Speaker 1: Oh you if you google it, do you recognize that
Speaker 1: cover from Blockbuster? To me, it's so iconic.
Speaker 2: House of Yes.
Speaker 3: House I'm thinking of House of Wax, but that's a
Speaker 3: different movie, House of Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have never seen this trailer, this image in my life,
Speaker 2: not once.
Speaker 1: Wait do you, Richard? Do you know the House of Yes?
Speaker 2: The movie?
Speaker 3: No, I just looked up a picture.
Speaker 1: She looks, I don't, honestly, all right, well but I
Speaker 1: love this out. Okay, So she is just quickly since
Speaker 1: you don't have a heart out, she's holding a gun.
Speaker 1: She hold she is she plays this sort of you know,
Speaker 1: in nineties terms, before we knew about how to be
Speaker 1: non ablest, she was an insane person. That had just
Speaker 1: gotten out of an asylum, and she's obsessed with Jackie.
Speaker 1: Oh so she calls herself Jackie O and dresses like
Speaker 1: Jackie O. And you find this out honestly ten minutes
Speaker 1: into the movie. But the entire movie is about incest.
Speaker 1: She's in love with her brother. Oh wow, so that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I thought I always knew there
Speaker 1: was something inappropriate about it, but I didn't know that's
Speaker 1: what it.
Speaker 2: Was interesting And toy Space, that's like, Yeah, George, that
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like a movie i'd want to.
Speaker 1: Watch, showing is the brother's fiance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, George, I don't think I'm gonna later that movie.
Speaker 3: That's weird. I don't know why I didn't watch that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, George, could you not talk about that? Hey, Olivia,
Speaker 2: could we caught that? That's weird?
Speaker 3: No, I would I would watch this.
Speaker 2: No, it's very I'm sick and twisted.
Speaker 1: It's like peak. You know when you think of Parker
Speaker 1: Posey as a cult id.
Speaker 3: This is it.
Speaker 1: It's like this party girl and like day Trippers and like.
Speaker 3: And Tory Spelling is like. Also, I first saw her
Speaker 3: in Scary Movie Too.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot you She's the best scary movie.
Speaker 3: She's so oh No, three is the best one. Sorry three,
Speaker 3: I mean from what I remember, I remember just like laughing.
Speaker 1: And she also, you know, people like Tory Spelling, people
Speaker 1: like Christy Ally, they were like Kathy Griffin. They had
Speaker 1: like this sort of self aware sense of humor about
Speaker 1: their own place and celebrity culture before that was something
Speaker 1: that everyone had to do in order to do, like
Speaker 1: you know, Vanity Fair Video My Life and looks.
Speaker 3: Oh my God.
Speaker 1: Totally they were ahead of their time, like Tori Spelling
Speaker 1: having a reality show you know, sorry, sorry, Gilly Vibes,
Speaker 1: The Simple Life Gilly Gilly Sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah God and non record Zaga zaa Bubble.
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, so stupid. I love it's so funny to
Speaker 2: have a podcast and you can just like quote for
Speaker 2: like one minute.
Speaker 1: By the way, you know, barbarin Star is so good.
Speaker 10: I love that freaking movie, George God to be Sad
Speaker 10: It had to be Sad is fab and it made me,
Speaker 10: It made me laugh and it made me so I
Speaker 10: love sweet.
Speaker 3: I love when a movie does both.
Speaker 2: I love what was fucking fun. No one wants to
Speaker 2: have fun?
Speaker 3: I know literally, you know what I think.
Speaker 1: I think Tory Spelling wanted to have fun, and then
Speaker 1: she was punished for it, and now she has to
Speaker 1: be you know, she's like sort of in the tablet.
Speaker 1: It's like if everyone had embraced Tory Spelling being kind
Speaker 1: of a joke in this like fun way, then she
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to be a joke in a tragic way.
Speaker 1: And that many such cases, to quote President, in.
Speaker 2: Many such cases, many such cases, Richard, When you're ready
Speaker 2: to give a shout out, please take the reins.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let's go. Hey, what's up everyone? I want
Speaker 3: to give a shout out to the television show Arrested Development.
Speaker 3: Since we're talking about cinema and media and things like that,
Speaker 3: I feel inspired to give a shout out to this
Speaker 3: iconic television show. I recently watched a compilation YouTube video
Speaker 3: of Hello Wow, like laugh out loud moments from Arrested Development,
Speaker 3: and that show is just so funny and one of
Speaker 3: the greatest things ever created, which has shaped an entire generation.
Speaker 3: It's so influential. So I want to say thank you, guys,
Speaker 3: Thank you Ron Howard and Mitchell Hurwitz for doing that.
Speaker 3: ROSSI and the cast, the cast, the cast, you guys,
Speaker 3: you guys killed it, Michael Sarah, Michael, Michael Sarah Michael.
Speaker 1: Are you.
Speaker 2: Alia shotcat Alia?
Speaker 3: Alia?
Speaker 2: David Kross Krass?
Speaker 1: You know Will Arnette just spot I read he bought
Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar home.
Speaker 2: I saw this as well actually, and guess what he
Speaker 2: deserves it? Where Yeah, my words, I would never need
Speaker 2: a twenty million dollar house if uh huh, if I
Speaker 2: tomorrow run into one hundred million dollars, it is a
Speaker 2: lot still going to be like suly, I think that's
Speaker 2: a three million dollar house is plenty, and literally just
Speaker 2: like keep it in the bank account.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then invest invest, invest, right, and also donate.
Speaker 2: I just want like to live my life.
Speaker 3: Also, I just want like a cute ass apartment. Helly,
Speaker 3: I'm like happy with that. I'm happy to have a
Speaker 3: beautiful apartment. And then you know, if I do something
Speaker 3: smart with the one hundred million dollars, I'm like, I'll
Speaker 3: get another cute apartment somewhere on.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know what, you know, my ass wants to
Speaker 1: have an art collection. You know, I want to be
Speaker 1: one of those rich people as the music like the
Speaker 1: broad in La where it's like a family house.
Speaker 3: Wait, where do people like keep that.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you can also lend it out to
Speaker 1: the museum and it can be like m Jay Lenderman out,
Speaker 1: it can be like from the George same Taggart family collection.
Speaker 3: It's literally like that, just like I don't know what
Speaker 3: his music sounds like, but is it something like that? Wait?
Speaker 1: Speaking of music, shout out our friend Baths whose album
Speaker 1: dropped today. Will shout out shout out to Will do
Speaker 1: It this morning to album dropped, Loving.
Speaker 3: God, I listened literally to. I mean so fucking good.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I know the body, the body, and honestly shout out
Speaker 1: to Will being snatched as hell.
Speaker 3: Hello body, honk Honky Honkynky, spider Man, Letterman who never
Speaker 3: be Cassis, Peter Parker, guess why to Hunky? He's too hunky.
Speaker 3: He's fab Yeah, he's he's fabulous, fab.
Speaker 2: And we're proud of him too.
Speaker 1: Well everyone, Yeah, and we're proud of him too because
Speaker 1: we all know him and we're friends with him. And wait,
Speaker 1: that's also Kristen Wig And.
Speaker 2: So I.
Speaker 3: Actually worked on the album and I m together and
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Speaker 1: Actually the album right now, Actually I was the original
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Speaker 2: What a beautiful like stage, like.
Speaker 3: Clear it out? Oh my God? Would you guys want
Speaker 3: to talk about like one more thing.
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