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Speaker 1: Hey, Dad, you're in spring training right now. But before

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Speaker 1: you have a ton of them, we have to celebrate

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Speaker 1: because you were elected and inducted into the Stratomatic Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, which is so cool. And Dad, now you

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Speaker 1: are in the same hall of fame as our guest today,

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Speaker 3: Well, that's absolutely preposterous that I'm in the same hall

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Speaker 2: Of all time.

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Speaker 3: But I have really been surprised, Jeff, I must say

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Speaker 3: by the feedback I've gotten. This is taped. But I

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Speaker 2: Cardinals, I walked in news Off was at you.

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Speaker 3: Know, seven fifteen in the morning, and he said, congratulations

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Speaker 2: Fame I went into was two and a half years ago.

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Speaker 3: And he met the Stratamatic Hall of Fame, so I

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Speaker 2: That's all my brother and I did growing up, so

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Speaker 3: Words to be going in, but to be going in

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, and Keith Hernandez is going to be

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Speaker 1: He's a Mets broadcaster, obviously a former great, great Major

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Speaker 3: And Jeff, I was absolutely astonished that I was inducted

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Speaker 3: I got inducted in between Gero your Premian, the little

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Speaker 3: When I went in, I did ask. I asked before

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Speaker 3: I have to make a speech. They said, we'd love

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Speaker 3: you to keep it to thirty seconds or last thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: So I made a thirty second speech and I was

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Speaker 1: That is amazing. Well, we did send a little Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame acceptance. You weren't able to make it up

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Speaker 1: to the Stratamatic induction ceremony because of spring training. But

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Speaker 1: go to stratamatic dot com and watch Dad's videos or

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Speaker 1: see them on social media as well. So Dad, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to Keith Rnandez. We're going to do more

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Speaker 1: You were in Arizona. Now currently when we're recording this,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is my forty fifth spring training Jeff.

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Speaker 3: And fortunately I did not run into Ken Griffy Junior

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Speaker 3: Last year, we used to joke that on a scale

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Speaker 3: But let's be clear, Jeff, the Dodgers really know how

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Speaker 2: But I also had a really it was a really

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Speaker 3: Dustin May is coming back trying to pitch for the Doctors.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're a young guy, you're trying to make

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Speaker 2: The off season he talked about. I think he was

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Speaker 3: He went to Ireland, he went to Iceland, he went

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Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty neat too. Maybe that's why it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about Strata manic, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: But I've told you my story, Jeff, that I started.

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Speaker 2: Jeff say, Hello hi, There.

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Speaker 4: Jeff how are?

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00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 5: You?

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00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: Keith i'm, Great thank you so much for joining our.

441
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: Show And i'm proud to say THAT i was the

442
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: one who asked. You won't ask my dad to ask

443
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: you to be on the show because you two share

444
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: a very intimate connection in both being members of The

445
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Stratomatic hall Of. Fame, Officially dad was inducted In.

446
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: February how, great, congratulations and WELL i was inducted at

447
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 4: more Than i'm five years. AGO i Think i've always

448
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: helped out Strata. Maatic WHEN i went on the air

449
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 4: WITH sny and Doing met, GAMES i always mentioned, stratamatics

450
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: so they got in touch with. Me they're out On Long, island,

451
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: Right SO i always give them ratings of met players

452
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: at the end of the. Season. No one to four

453
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 4: and then one to eight or one to seventeen arm,

454
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: strength all that stuff that goes with strata.

455
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: Matic, keith when did you get interested in? Stratamatic when

456
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: did you start? Playing and did you play in a

457
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: league or did you play by? Yourself how did that

458
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 3: work as a young?

459
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 4: Man, well we used to always get when we were.

460
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 4: Kids we couldn't wait to get The street And Smith

461
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: spring edition of every baseball, season of, course and always

462
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 4: in the back there was this little ad in the,

463
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 4: back a black and white ad of a picture and

464
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: his wind up which was their. Logo, right always intrigued

465
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: me and and intrigued me WHEN i was in literally

466
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 4: AND i never bought the. Game and THEN i finally

467
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 4: WHEN i was in high school my junior, year OR

468
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 4: i decided my senior, year ACTUALLY i decided to buy the.

469
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 4: Game it was the nineteen seventy one, season AND i.

470
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 4: PLAYED i managed every, team SO i dual managed in the.

471
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: GAMES i made my own. Schedule, ACTUALLY i went back

472
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: and was able to find the schedules of the teams

473
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: as it was played in seventy. One but you, know

474
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: you didn't have what you have, today where you have

475
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: the actual, lineups the starting pitching and all, that you,

476
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 4: know where you can recreate the entire, season and you

477
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: don't have the computer to do the tabulation of the.

478
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 4: Stats SO i kept a little, notebook like a full,

479
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: notebook AND i put the line at, bat, games at, bats,

480
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 4: runs AND i would keep score With roman numerals or

481
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call those. Things and WHEN i

482
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 4: got to thirty, games it'd be around one hundred and

483
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: twenty at bats for the player one hundred and ten.

484
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 4: Depending THEN i would put them over AND i would

485
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 4: know month by month what they were. HITTING i played

486
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 4: that c seventy one. SEASON i never played The American.

487
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: LEAGUE i grew up In San. Francisco when The Oakland a's,

488
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 4: came that got our, attention but WHEN i was a

489
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: kid growing, up it was just The, giants so we

490
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: Were National league. Town SO i only played The National,

491
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: league AND i played every, game AND i was at

492
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty one games AND i got drafted

493
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: by The cardinals AND i had to go to spring

494
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: training AND i think you know this, story we'll tell.

495
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 4: IT i wanted to finish the season so bad took.

496
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: Place that's when they Had lee made before that big

497
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: trade With. Houston So joe began was With houston And

498
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 4: lee Made Tommy Helms Dennis menke were still With cincinnati

499
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: and had big trade For morgan And geronimo. Uh AND

500
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: i was someone else that made the Oh Jack, BILLINGHAM i.

501
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: Believe and it was a big trade that made The

502
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: reds and started The reds on their road to being

503
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: the Big red. Machine SO i packed my bag AND

504
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: i stuffed my game.

505
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: This box.

506
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: On the whole bottom of my, suitcase in the very

507
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 4: bottom of my. Suitcase AND i flew To tampa for

508
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: spring training the first TIME i never got on an.

509
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: Airplane AND i flew across the country AND i got

510
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: to my little flophouse motel Off Fourth street In Saint,

511
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 4: petersburg AND i just couldn't. WAIT i got into my

512
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: suitcase AND i went through my clothes and there was no.

513
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: Game SO i got on the. Phone and back then

514
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 4: there was a. Payphone there was no cell. Phones nineteen seventy,

515
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: TWO i call collecting my. Parents the, dad what you

516
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: do to my. Game he, said, SUDDEN i knew you

517
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: were going to try to break that. Game you need

518
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 4: to focus on, baseball not Straight SO i never finished that. Season,

519
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: Gie that is.

520
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: Hilarious that just go back for a second. Though so

521
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: you would get four hits in a high school, game

522
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: and when the game's, over you would go home and

523
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: play The cardinals against The cubs.

524
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: For the two hours at. Night HAVE i got that?

525
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: RIGHT i would play sometimes The Holy league two three

526
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 4: days of. GAMES i Mean i'd be there for, hours

527
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: and that's the day you roll the. Dice, no Then

528
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: i'm marking down at Bad dennis, mentally, okay At, bath at,

529
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: market at, Bath yes on my on my. Card because

530
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: they didn't give you when the game was. Over it

531
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: didn't give you everything you needed to know like you have.

532
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: Today it's so easy today with the. Computer your stats

533
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: go as you go forward and you play, today it's.

534
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: Great they do the tabulations for. You SO i put

535
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: all that extra effort in and back then they didn't

536
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: have left right, splits which to me was a great

537
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: transition of that. Game that made the game more interesting

538
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 4: because now you can really manage you, know if you

539
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: had you, know you had someone that hit three hundred

540
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: but only against left. Handers you, know he didn't have

541
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: that back, then so he could hit three hundred against

542
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: the right hander and he was only hitting like one

543
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: ninety against. Them so that to me was the, big

544
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: the big deal breaker right, Then i'm well not the deal.

545
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: Breaker that that sold me and that got me back

546
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: into playing stratumatic AFTER i.

547
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Retire, KEITH i have to, say hearing you tell that

548
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: story is so. Beautiful we launched this podcast opening day

549
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: last season twenty twenty, four AND i think my dad

550
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: has told that story four times on the, podcast and

551
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: it's even better hearing from you because here we, are,

552
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: right my dad taught me how to play strato. Maatic in,

553
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Fact keith with no ability statistic. Statistics WISE i would

554
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: make my own. Cards SO i made one named after my.

555
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: Grandfather But, keith he would have been the greatest player.

556
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: Ever he would have been sho hee o tani times.

557
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Two in, FACT i had The hall Of fame. Deck

558
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: but the year Before Cal Ripken junior was, inducted AND

559
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: i grew up In, maryland SO i Loved Cawrpken. Jr

560
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: SO i made him a. Card and If Cal Ripken

561
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: junior's card was. Accurate he would have hit twelve hundred

562
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: home runs In it's. Great but to your, point we

563
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: are in love with this, game and we all had

564
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: our own. Obsessions when you got, drafted you took the

565
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: game with. YOU i would make cards of PEOPLE i,

566
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Loved and it's just the only difference between my dad

567
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: AND i and you is one of the Greatest Major

568
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: league players of all, time and we're just kind of

569
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: nerds on our. Own but we all have this beautiful

570
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: thing in common WHICH i.

571
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: Love.

572
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: Well you know the comment From Blenny dykster when he

573
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: hit the walk off home run in The houston eighty

574
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: six playoffs when he hit the hit the game winning

575
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: home run off Of Dave, smith and then it was

576
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: a game three or. Four i'm not sure which. One

577
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: no would either be four or, five three or three or.

578
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: FIVE i think it was three Off Dave. Smith his

579
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: quote in the paper, WAS i didn't know he played strata.

580
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: Man he, goes, Well i've never hit a walk off home.

581
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 4: RUN i rolled him In Strata. Matic big kick out

582
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: of that is so.

583
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Beautiful So, daddy before we get off, this we have

584
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: a little we have a little surprise.

585
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: For, You.

586
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: Keith so we called up our Friend, Jerry Jerry malaney At,

587
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: stratamatic who we.

588
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: Love he's.

589
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: Great we strat simulations every week on our show last.

590
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: Season so what If Joe DiMaggio got traded For Ted.

591
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Williams you, know there was all that that rumor around.

592
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: There so we ran both their careers and saw what

593
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: if Lou brock didn't get. Traded you know all of

594
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: these great strat. Sims so we actually were able to

595
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: pull up your card from nineteen seventy.

596
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: Nine well that's a big.

597
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: Card oh that's a great. Card that's a big.

598
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Card, Okay i'm gonna have my dad send this to

599
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: you so you.

600
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Can see it.

601
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Afterwards BUT i brought my dice, out, okay or do

602
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: you have dice with? You do you want to roll

603
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: on your own?

604
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: Card hold on nineteen eighty six meths eighty two? Cardinals go,

605
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: AHEAD i love.

606
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: It, Okay i'm gonna roll on your. Card who are

607
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: we facing a righty or a?

608
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: Lefty? Here, WELL i.

609
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: Killed lefties that. Year give me a against the.

610
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: Left, okay we're gonna put you up against the.

611
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: Left he well, Sorr yeah he was, tough all, RIGHT.

612
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 1: A three and honest three was. ROLLED i was going

613
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: to reroll IF i got a four or five or

614
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: six for and that means we're on the batter. Card

615
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: here we go three to.

616
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Ten, walk we're gonna take. IT i, Walked, well, yeah you.

617
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: WALKED i think you walked a hundred times that, year didn't?

618
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: You seventy walk one hundred? Times? Once in my career

619
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: that WAS i think eighty eighty eighty OR i think

620
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: it was. Eighty uh walked one hundred times In Saint,

621
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 4: Louis So, keith eighty to ninety. TIMES i got in

622
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: the base for the big, boys, Right.

623
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: Keith Jeff keith had more walks than strikeouts in his,

624
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: career which never happens.

625
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: Anymore, WELL i got, ever got over a thousand.

626
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: WALKS i got over one thousand, strikeouts believe. Yes AND

627
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: i got over one thousand. RBIs and if we hadn't

628
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: had those strike, years you, know the we were locked.

629
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: OUT i went through two strikes and lost playing, time

630
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: so kind of diminished the numbers that would have been much.

631
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: Stronger but, Anyway So.

632
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: Keith have you played a stratomatic game with your own?

633
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: Card so you're playing with your own card you're playing

634
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: The cardinals in eighty two or The meds in eighty.

635
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: Six, yes of COURSE i played the eighty sixth season.

636
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 4: Twice we won every eighty two season five. Times why

637
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 4: DID i play it five? TIMES i played EVERY i

638
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: managed every. Team cardinals never won won the. Division montreal

639
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: was the best. Team all had a great. Team it

640
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: was one of the great mystery is why they didn't

641
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: win when they Had dawson And carter And Steve rogers

642
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: And Woody. Friman they were such a good. Team The

643
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: pirates as well In, philly but The cardinals in eighty.

644
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 4: TWO i had to. GO i kept on playing it

645
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 4: over and over because it takes forever to play a full.

646
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 4: Season you're, imagining you, know the whole. League you, know

647
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 4: if you're you know you're. Playing you got to play every? Game,

648
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: right great.

649
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Fun genuine, Question. Keith you know WHEN i would play

650
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: stratomatic AND i would get upset at a, player, RIGHT

651
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: i would, say, oh come, On, tony come, On Tony,

652
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: gwynn what are you doing when you would maybe strike

653
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: out in one of your Own do you say come, On?

654
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: Keith or you say come on? Me like do you

655
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: get upset at yourself when your card strikes out or does.

656
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: The only TIME i already got pissed WHEN i was

657
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: in high school and we got the famous, teams so

658
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: we got all the world championship, teams twenty Seven yankees and,

659
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 4: again AND i took what was? It what was the

660
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 4: year That cleveland lost to The New York giants when

661
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: they Had feller?

662
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: Right forty?

663
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: Eight?

664
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: Right and, no, no fifty, four fifty?

665
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: Four sorry they.

666
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: Won in forty. Eight they lost in fifty four to The.

667
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: Giants, yes in fifty four That, Garcia, Feller lemon and

668
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: the other great.

669
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: Pitcher early, win, yeah early.

670
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: Win Bob lemon was the only one that ever pissed me.

671
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 4: Off he'd walked a frettin'. BALLPARK i REMEMBER i was

672
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 4: playing upstairs When Pete sanchoris. House he was. Downstairs he

673
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: was our, manager And Joe demajo the summer, league And

674
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: pete was my, catcher and we went to school together

675
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: and played summer ball together and in high, school and

676
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: FINALLY i got so FRUSTRATED i threw his card up

677
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: in the. Air and he used to always, go, okay

678
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: he's walked two. BATTERS i was just on his.

679
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 5: Car i'd walked out And i'd just Get mossy. Up

680
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 5: he was their. Closer how Good massia could win With?

681
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 5: Bob i'm in A hall of, Famer.

682
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Jeff Bob levin is A hall Of.

683
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: Famer And keith throwing his card up in the, air

684
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: he walked the ball.

685
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: Bark oh my, Gosh, keith have you ever looked at

686
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 3: one of your cards and, said, like what are we doing?

687
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: Here i'm a one through twelve runner?

688
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: HERE i had you, KNOW i had sixty triples in

689
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: my career and you got me as a one through.

690
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: Twelve did you ever look at one of your cards

691
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 3: and say you got me wrong on. This i'm a

692
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: better buncher than, This i'm a better, Base i'm faster than.

693
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: This did that ever?

694
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 4: HAPPENED i THINK i was a one for. Twelve that's

695
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: a one for fourteen with two, outs now, right that's

696
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 4: right me. OUT i think one to thirteen is a

697
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: LITTLE i think that's the starting to get into the fast.

698
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: Territory, Right, keith the.

699
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: Lou, brocks the woman, mcgeez they were the one to

700
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 4: seventeen's AND i was not a one to. Fifteen AND

701
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 4: i wasn't the one to. Fourteen you can make an, argument,

702
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: well ONCE i got, GOING i MEAN i could score

703
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: on a. SINGLE i didn't have to. WORRY i can

704
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: score from first on a. DOUBLE i had a lot

705
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: of triples Because Saint louis that big ball, great you,

706
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: know and ONCE i got, GOING i could run.

707
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: Right speaking of, Triples, keith if you played today with

708
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: your sixty triples, career you would have the most triples

709
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: of any active. Player, really, Yeah Starling. Marte Starling marte

710
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: has fifty.

711
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Five he has the.

712
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: Most Starling marte has the most of any active. Player

713
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 3: so you have more triples than any.

714
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: Active, player how about? That, Yeah so.

715
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 3: It's not Just Saint. Louis it's THAT, a you got

716
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: a lot of, hits AND b when you hit a,

717
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: ball you Knew i'm gonna bust it out of the

718
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: box here And i'm gonna get to.

719
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: THIRD i didn't run the first base and go like

720
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: this to my. TEAMMATES i was running the first base

721
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 4: trying to think in that extra base all the. Time

722
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 4: let's astro. Turf the ball moved. Through even though today's

723
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: ballparks are like putting, GREENS i, mean the infields are so.

724
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: Fast the outfields are just as. Fast AND i think

725
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: one of the main reasons, too is that you've gotten.

726
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: AWAY a lot of stadiums don't have the arc and

727
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: the outfield from center. Field they come right right angle

728
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: Across philadelphia and Even City field and right city, field

729
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: so you lose that. Bend and so the, Gaps oh my,

730
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: god they're afraid to put the numbers up in the

731
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: gaps because you, KNOW i always look in terms Of Rigley.

732
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: Field Rigley field in the gap was three sixty. Eight

733
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 4: so WHEN i see a three fifty eight in the,

734
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: Gap i'm, going oh my, GOD i had lined. Drys

735
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: they go. Out they go out instead sit off the

736
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: wall or one hop the. Wall and these guys are

737
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 4: ALL i, mean we're a, generation generation and a half

738
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: away from WHEN i. Played i'm six feet. TALL i

739
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: played it six feet. TALL i haven't shrunk. Yet they're

740
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: all six five six. Six they're picked monster behemos and

741
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: defenses they brought. In AND i do think the ball

742
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: carries a little better.

743
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: TOO i think So, keith you played twenty and fourteen

744
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: games at first base in your, career and you played

745
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: seven games in the. Outfield do you do you remember

746
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: Those why would they take the best defensive first basement

747
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: of all time and play you in the, outfield even

748
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: for one? Inning do you remember one of those one

749
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: of those, Games.

750
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 4: YES i, DO i. REMEMBER i remember playing left field in.

751
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 4: Bush whitey was, crazy you know when he came over

752
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: he was going to Move Ted simmons in the. Offseason

753
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 4: he came, over he was going to Move Ted simmons

754
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: the first base.

755
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: And put you in the.

756
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: Outfield AND i, said, Okay i'll do, it But Ted

757
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 4: simmons said. Sure Then Ted simmons balked at, it and

758
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 4: then he traded. Him if you recall trade To. Milwaukee

759
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: he Traded, Fingers he traded For, Fingers he traded For.

760
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 4: Suitor this was the off season of eighty, one after

761
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: the split season when we finished in, second had the

762
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 4: best overall, record finished second in the first and second,

763
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: half so we didn't go to the playoff when we

764
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: had the best record overall that year in eighty. One

765
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 4: whitey was, furious so he wouldn't made the trade in

766
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 4: the off, season and then he Traded. Vukovich he traded

767
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: A pennant to The milwaukee and we got the point

768
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 4: out of, it which was the best part of that.

769
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: Deal lapointer was a good, pitcher but he played me

770
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: in left field once Against, montreal AND i REMEMBER i

771
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 4: had a great. ARM i had a very good, arm

772
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: AND i was more. Impressed carter hit a line drive

773
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: to left center. FIELD i was in the left AND

774
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: i went and't caught. IT i ran and caught it.

775
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: Backhand did. IT i did have one play against the.

776
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 4: Wall Luis melendez was playing center AND i went up

777
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: back to the wall And bush had the padding on

778
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: the wall all the way up and around a foot

779
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: was concrete to be at. Top SO i went to

780
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: jump AND i hit my shoulder into the padding and

781
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: it just smashed. ME i couldn't. JUMP i could have

782
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: caught it IF i had have jumped, earlier BUT i

783
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: had no. EXPERIENCE i Remember louise, said you got to

784
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: you gotta put your hand. OUT i. GOES i never

785
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 4: played The. Alpha come. ON i had one play WHERE

786
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: i had to throw home AND i KNEW i always

787
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: hit the cutoff man AND i threw of the base

788
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: hit and the runner was scoring AND i threw a

789
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: bullet home right to overtfell and he cut it off

790
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: AND i went. Darn it would have been a one.

791
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: HOUR i was right Accurate. CINCINNATI i was playing right.

792
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: FIELD i don't know. Why Maybe george was Hurt, Hendrick

793
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: i'm not. Sure and base hit the right field AND

794
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 4: i uh threw through the runner on FIRST i threw

795
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: the third base and it was a one hop to

796
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 4: the third. Basement it was just a little five feet

797
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 4: up the line towards the, outfield and he was safe at.

798
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: Sliding BUT i remember one. THING i remember the turf At,

799
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: riverfront and WHEN i got the ball on the, GROUND

800
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: i went to, throw and my step of my front,

801
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: foot my right, foot it was like instead of pointing

802
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: at my, throat it was. Here it didn't move because

803
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: it was the turf AND i HAD i WENT i,

804
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: went oh, My i'm going to blow my, knee AND i.

805
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: Didn't so NOW i knew why outfielders wore the rubber

806
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: nuves out in the, outfield not the not the, cleats

807
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: and on the. TURF i never would have realized, That

808
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: so it was kind of. Interesting you live and, learn

809
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 4: right learn absolutely never thrown me out, There.

810
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: Keith one question we love asking any guests on the

811
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: show is, like who did you grow up?

812
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: Watching who was your?

813
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Guy Like Willie mays obviously in that time as a,

814
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: kid or were you also A willie McCovey kid because

815
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: your first baseman was that your.

816
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 4: GUY i was a Big Jim ray heart.

817
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: Fan wow a number forty?

818
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: Three, yeah, YEAH i liked.

819
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: Him and he was a tough right hand, hitter big,

820
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: stocky line drive, hitter high ball. HITTER i liked. Him

821
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 4: If i'm looking at first, basements my dad would, say

822
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 4: we didn't go that many. Games we didn't have money to,

823
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: go and but when we, went it was always The

824
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 4: cardinals because Of. Stan usual when my dad were friendly

825
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: from the War World war, two serving in The navy,

826
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: Together stan would leave his, tickets so we. Would dad

827
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: would have us watch the first, baseman and, well when

828
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 4: it was The cardinals was Watched Bill. White he would just, Say,

829
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 4: okay this whole, INNING i just want you to Watch

830
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: Bill white and watch him and watch his footwork around the.

831
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 4: Back focus on that for an. Inning just look at

832
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 4: him and see what he does with his. Footwork West.

833
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: Parker of, course it never got An American league never.

834
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: Came it was So Vic power was With cleveland when

835
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 4: The American league never saw him, play but was very

836
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: much aware of. Him but you, know back in those,

837
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: days there wasn't a lot of great fielding first. Basement

838
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 4: you know it Was Lee may was at first base

839
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: for The. Reds oh, Gosh Doctor Strange glove was at.

840
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: Pirrates Dick stewart, right.

841
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: It's so. Great so keep back back to stand musual

842
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: for a. Minute you may or may not know. This

843
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: one year he had more triples than strikeouts twenty to,

844
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: eighteen twenty to. Eighteen in an era that we play in,

845
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: now guys strikeout eighteen times in a. Week he struck

846
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: out eighteen times in a season and had twenty. TRIPLES

847
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: i mean something like you talk about unbreakable records or.

848
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: Whatever no one's ever going to do anything like that.

849
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: Again Dam i'll look at that.

850
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Card, sure look what he.

851
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: Hit he had one HUNDRED, Rbi he had six, triples

852
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 4: thirty three, doubles twenty seven home, runs one hundred and nine,

853
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 4: rivis seventy five, walks only struck out in five hundred

854
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: and ninety four at, bats thirty nine times on, base

855
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 4: three eighty, six slug five twenty, two hit three ten

856
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 4: three ten for. Him was not. Good and they have

857
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: him at first, BASE a three right field of three

858
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: left field of, three one to eleven. Running he's getting

859
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 4: a little older because he could. Fly he was never

860
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: one for eleven right seventeen and It's.

861
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Keith is looking like he's about to make a call

862
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: and his voice straatematic for a.

863
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: Second, So, keith when you were The cardinals first basement

864
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: and a great, one you must have said to yourself

865
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: time and time, Again i'm playing the same position That

866
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 3: Stan musial played here In Saint louis at least half

867
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: of the. Time did that enter your mind that one

868
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: of my dad's, friends one of the greatest hitters of all,

869
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: Time i'm playing the same position in the same.

870
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 4: Town certainly? DID i? MEAN i grew up A cardinal

871
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 4: fan Because stan left his tickets and, candlestick AND i

872
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 4: remember we were old. Enough it was When Sally GMOs

873
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: was the, manager Before Johnny keene came. In stan's last

874
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 4: year was sixty three and they won in sixty. Four

875
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: stan never played in The Bush. STADIUM i played, it

876
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: and he played an old sportsman's. Park AND i remember

877
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: going into the clubhouse on getaway day AND i forget

878
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: it was sixty. Two sixty three doesn't really. Matter and

879
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 4: they're all getting dressed and stands there with his Tall

880
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: he's already, showered And dad was talking To, dad AND

881
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: i sat down on the stool next to, him like

882
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: an idiot taking someone's. Locker i'm like eight years, old you.

883
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: Know And Ken boyer came and sat his locker was

884
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: to my, right AND i looked. OVER i knew Ken boyer,

885
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 4: was and he rustled my hair like this and had

886
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 4: a big. SMILE i got a big kick out of.

887
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: That and little DID i know THAT i would be a.

888
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 4: CARDINAL i would play in the minor leagues For Ken.

889
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,959
Speaker 4: BOYER i would play in the big leagues For Ken,

890
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: boyer you. Know AND i remember WHEN i go Into

891
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: Candlestick park and, PLAY i would look to that locker

892
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 4: Where musual was and WHERE i, sat and Where boyer's locker,

893
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 4: was And i'd always they never lockered me, there BUT

894
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: i always had had to. Look WHEN i first the

895
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: first day of the, GAME i sauld look, like how

896
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: many years? FIGURE i was sixty, two so only fifteen years, Yeah,

897
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 4: NO i fifteen years. AGO i was sitting in that

898
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: stool next to the boyer and stand the.

899
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 3: Man that's, Incredible So, keith when you went to The.

900
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: Cardinals first, OFF i keep the greatest players of all

901
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: time from each. NUMBER i just stop at fifty. Five

902
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: it's easier that. WAY i call it From ozzy To.

903
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: Oral Ozzie smith Won Oral herscheizer fifty. Five you are

904
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: the greatest thirty seven because of your ten years In Saint.

905
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: Louis i'm just CURIOUS i should know. This how did

906
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: you arrive at number thirty? Seven it's an unusual number

907
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: for a baseball.

908
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: Player, Uh Nicky. MANTLE i got my First Nickey mantle

909
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: card WHEN i was five years. Old dad would come

910
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 4: home from the fire department and he'd bring Around it's

911
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: where five cents a, pack, remember, Right And i'm older than.

912
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: You it might be.

913
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: More three years, older, yes But i'm in the same.

914
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 3: Area bubblegum cards worst bubble. Gum worst bubble tastes like,

915
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: cardboard but it was the. Pack the back of the

916
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: cards were.

917
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: Great it was flat and the taste was. Flat SO

918
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 4: i got my First Nickey mantle card AND i was around.

919
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: Six so what DO i? DO i flip around the

920
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: back and From Oklahoma october, twentieth it's my. Birthday, cool

921
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: so we share a. BIRTHDAY i actually share a birthday

922
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 4: At Juan marischal, too and SO i was A Mickey mantle,

923
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 4: fan AND i always had a seven on my back

924
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 4: in the big. Leagues, now WHEN i got called up

925
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 4: as a, Rookie Butch, yaktiman the old clubhouse guy from the,

926
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 4: back you, know he was getting senile and he was,

927
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 4: old crusty. Guy and he was there when he Was

928
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 4: he was one of the clubhouse kids When Rogers hornsby

929
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 4: was playing in the. Twenties so he had gone through

930
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: the gas house gang as a clubhouse, guy The musual,

931
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: era The brock And gibson. Era he had been there

932
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: and we were the new, ones and he was like

933
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: eighty something years, old and he gave me. Eighteen WHEN

934
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: i got called up in seventy four From tulsa Late,

935
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: august lost my rookie. Status and WHEN i wasn't going to,

936
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 4: complain eight is my one. NUMBER i DON'T i don't

937
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 4: like even numbers AND i don't like, eight BUT i

938
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: put it. On i'm not gonna. Come i'm not gonna

939
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 4: go To buech and, say, HEY i don't like this.

940
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 4: NUMBER i couldn't wait for the next, year and it

941
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: was seventy. Five, Well Reggie smith is. Seven i'm not

942
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: gonna Say, reggie AND i have your. Number twenty seven

943
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 4: Was Mike, anderson who was our fourth out favor veteran

944
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 4: not gonna forty, seven WHICH i didn't. Want Was lynn,

945
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 4: mcgloughlin our right hand. Pitcher veteran seventeen Was Dizzy dean retired,

946
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: right SO i. Had the only thing left was thirty.

947
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: Seven that's WHY i took. It SO i always had a.

948
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: Seven WHEN i went To Saint louis and traded To Saint,

949
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 4: Louis Charlie. Sandrals our clubhouse guy, Goes, KEITH i can't

950
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: give you your number thirty, seven AND i, said, well,

951
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 4: whine he, goes That's casey Stengeles Dangle stumbers. RETIRED i

952
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: didn't remember here for that number. Seven that's. SEVENTEEN i, go, perfect.

953
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: That is.

954
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: Great, So, keith you hit one hundred and sixty two

955
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: homers in your, career WHICH i thought was kind of

956
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: cool because they play one hundred and sixty two.

957
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: Games it's a big number in.

958
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: Baseball and you hit one hundred and sixty two homers

959
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: and you never hit twenty in a, season, Right So

960
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: i'm going to tell you something that even you don't.

961
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 3: Know Ron fairly is the all time home run leader

962
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: without a twenty homer. Season hit two hundred and fifteen

963
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 3: but never hit twenty in a, season AND i was

964
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: wondering if you, were, like maybe second on that. List

965
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: BUT i found a bunch of other, Guys Tim, Rains

966
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: Bill madlock who hit more home runs than, you but

967
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,959
Speaker 3: fewer Than Ron.

968
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: Fairlely so.

969
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 3: You were not a home run, hitter but you could

970
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: hit the ball out the ballpark when you wanted.

971
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: TO i just thought that was kind of.

972
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 3: Cool it's hard to hit two hundred and fifteen homers without,

973
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: it and twenty at its.

974
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 4: EASY i, Agree AND i think IF i had played

975
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 4: in other, BALLPARKS i would have probably had two. Hundred

976
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 4: and also you've got strike years that. Hurt but In Saint,

977
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: louis and you remember that old, ballpark it Was Old Bush.

978
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: Stadium it was one street, level one one floor of

979
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 4: the low street level right and the oly it was

980
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: a colisseum and the only open area and that ballpark

981
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: was from left center field to right center, field and

982
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 4: it was above the fence and the it was open

983
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: air where the wind could blow in and when the

984
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: when the, sea when the summer came, in in the

985
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: humidity In june And july since Sometimes june that just it.

986
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 4: Was it. Was it was the second biggest ballpark in

987
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: The National, league And Houston astrodom was the. Biggest you

988
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: and it was. AstroTurf you had to hit line drives,

989
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 4: there AND i was NEVER i was always taught to

990
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: hit the top half of the, ball stay on, top

991
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: almost to a. Fault WHEN i went To, Shaye shaye was.

992
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: Fair you had to hit it. There AND i got more,

993
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: EXPERIENCED i got TO i learned how to get a pitch,

994
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: up and that was just sometimes just so. STUBBORN i

995
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 4: just think when your dad is the MINUTE i swung

996
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: up in batting practice when we were, Kids gary AND

997
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: i he go, up uppercut you, down came. Down you'll

998
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: think you're swinging, down but you're swinging the, level top

999
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: half of the. Ball no fly balls AND vp and

1000
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: it was just so ingrained in. ME i had PITCHES

1001
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: i could have got, out BUT i had particularly with The,

1002
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: METS i Had Strawberry, Carter George foster mc reynold's hitting behind.

1003
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 4: Me and my dad always taught us that you know

1004
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 4: today it's. Different you got THE dh, Now but the two,

1005
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: prestigious most prestigious positions in the batting order were three and.

1006
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 4: Four four was your home run, hitter your, power clean up,

1007
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: hitter Your harmon killer, brew Your Willie. Stargel and three

1008
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 4: was Your tony Lave, A tony Gwyn a. Line i'm

1009
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: not going to Put tony in. There tony was really

1010
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 4: a better lead, off second place. Hitter he wasn't a

1011
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: great clutch. Hitter it's a great. Hitter he wasn't a

1012
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: bad clutch. Hitter but your, third my dad always had

1013
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 4: a third head is the best hitter in the. Lineup

1014
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: he's a three hundred. Hitter he gets on, base he,

1015
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: walks and he also hits three, hundred and he drives

1016
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 4: the clutch hitter and he sets up for the for the, four, five.

1017
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 4: Six SO i Was that was, me and that was

1018
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 4: perfect that lineup In New york for, Me AND i

1019
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 4: could have lifted more WHEN i hit the eighteen home.

1020
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 4: RUNS i tried to hit twenty that. Year and what

1021
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 4: DID i? DO i HIT i had my average win

1022
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: AND i really, feel you, KNOW i hit well in the,

1023
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: clutch very well in the. CLUTCH i think If i'd

1024
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 4: had a little more of an, uppercut less dis, PLANNED

1025
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: i wouldn't have been that clutch, shitter AND i wouldn't

1026
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 4: have history hundred, Right.

1027
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: Keith before we get to The, Mets, jeff have you

1028
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: noticed WHAT t Shirt.

1029
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: Keith hernandez is?

1030
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 3: Wearing and don't tell me you haven't.

1031
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: Noticed OH i noticed very.

1032
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: QUICKLY i was gonna see if you were going to

1033
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: bring it.

1034
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: Out.

1035
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: Keith bullwinkle is the greatest cartoon in the history of.

1036
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: CARTOONS i will argue this.

1037
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: Point bullwinkle himself is the funniest cartoon character. Ever AND

1038
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: i talked my Son jeff into record just Like stratamatic

1039
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 3: at a young. Age bullwinkle is the funniest guy on.

1040
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: In the history of.

1041
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 6: Cartoons you learned things fairy tales and always it was

1042
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 6: just a, great a great, show one of my.

1043
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: Favorites he's being a father. NOW i have an eighteen

1044
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: month old, daughter right And i'm already starting to feel

1045
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: Like i'm turning into my lovingly stupid dad because it's

1046
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: of teaching me things like the ABC's and.

1047
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: Stuff he would teach me to go.

1048
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: To my, mom pretend to hit myself in the, head and, say.

1049
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 2: First day on the, job AND i already got a raise.

1050
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: Your daughter or, son baby girl, McKinley and.

1051
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 4: She gets old. Enough get the whole set Of bullwinkle

1052
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 4: because it's also educational and it's it's not, violent and it's.

1053
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 4: Funny it is the greatest cartoon. Ever nothing comes close to.

1054
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: ITHING i totally agree And keith not to, change not

1055
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: to change the, subject But Get. Smart it's my favorite

1056
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: sitcom of all, time all, right and my favorite cartoon Is.

1057
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: Bullwinkle and a guy Named Chris hayward was a writer

1058
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: For Get smart and For. BULLWINKLE i always regret THAT

1059
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: i never got to Meet Chris hayward because his sense

1060
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: of humor was one of the funniest Things i've ever.

1061
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: Seen Because bullwinkle was hysterically.

1062
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: Funny my favorite was When Don adams With heimie in

1063
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: the closet and then and he Goes.

1064
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: KEITH i Took jeffrey on trip to To cooper so one,

1065
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: year it's like six hours of the.

1066
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: CAR i bring all of My Get smart.

1067
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: TAPES i got every one of, them and we had

1068
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: A tv in the back of the. Car because he's

1069
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: eleven years, old he's not gonna sit up front with

1070
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: me and me telling baseball. Stories so he watched every

1071
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: episode Of Get smart on The Way up and The Way,

1072
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: back so he he doesn't know it LIKE i.

1073
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: Do But.

1074
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: Kill The light is one of the great ones.

1075
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: Ever my favorite Was.

1076
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: Bernie copple what Played Zeefried Jeff he then he played

1077
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: In The Love boat and was one of the funniest

1078
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: characters in the history of the.

1079
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: Show, keith this is.

1080
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: Unbelievable we are in The Strata Maatic hall Of. Fame

1081
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: we both love Gets, barred and we Consider bullwinkle the

1082
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: greatest cartoon of all.

1083
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: Time oh my, gosh you gotta be.

1084
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: Worried you're this you're this hook to, Me, keith Because

1085
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: i'm the weirdest man in the, world and NOW i

1086
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 3: find out so are.

1087
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 4: You the world's going to hell and a ham.

1088
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: Basket OH i love it all.

1089
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: Right we could laugh all, day and we've kept you

1090
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: way too. Long we have to ask a Gratuitous met,

1091
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: question even though it's just gonna completely put a halt

1092
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: to this tremendously fun.

1093
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: Interview but just tell.

1094
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: Me where The mets are now now that they've added

1095
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: seven hundred and sixty five million dollars to play the outfield.

1096
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: Well more, importantly they've added the best hitter in the

1097
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 4: game right In, soto and they Signed. Pete pete was

1098
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 4: floating around for a long. Time what surprised, me AND

1099
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 4: i just felt that if they, had If pete had

1100
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: been picked, up it it just would have been a.

1101
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 4: Swap but With soto And pete, together that is. Formidable.

1102
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 4: Now biento's had twenty seven homes home runs last. Year

1103
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: he's got to do it. Again he's very. DISCIPLINED i

1104
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 4: think he's going to be. Fine it's a veteran, team

1105
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 4: it's a team ready to. Win but unfortunately you've Lost.

1106
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 4: Manaya now with little, bleak you, know it's like the Suit,

1107
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 4: nazi no more setups for. You it's these are bleaks

1108
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 4: there eighty six to eight, weeks you. Know and he's.

1109
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: Out And madrigal evidently is a kind of. Shoulder he

1110
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: fractured his. Shoulder he was going to be a utility.

1111
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 4: Infielder but losing him And montas and and it's two

1112
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: starters in The Metzicanilla, ford they're gonna win or. Lose

1113
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: with they're. PITCHING i think their bullpen is a lot

1114
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 4: better than last, Year phillies are going to be. Tough

1115
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 4: they made some really good moves and that's. Starting rotation

1116
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: is really. FORMIDABLE i, mean you're going to go Into,

1117
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 4: philly you, know it's like going into WHEN i was,

1118
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 4: young you go Into pittsburgh and you'd Have Jim, Brooker,

1119
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: Candelarrea Ken, Brett Jerry, royce or you go To. Dodgers

1120
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 4: it was sudden the Balance auela you just don't get a,

1121
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: break you, know Sever, Kuzman. Madlack it's, like you, know

1122
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 4: you look ahead and you, go oh, BOY i got

1123
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 4: my work cut. Out that's what it's going to be

1124
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: like for For. PHILLY i, mean when you're going to

1125
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 4: play The. Phillies so but that's why they played the.

1126
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 4: GAMES i think they're going to be there in the,

1127
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 4: end but you, know the injuries are. Scary you just

1128
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 4: don't know how they're going to bounce back from injuries

1129
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 4: and those that when you make all the predictions you

1130
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 4: want in a season and you just can't predict, injury.

1131
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 3: RIGHT i Keep i'll finish with one final stratamatic, question

1132
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 3: when's the last time you played a? Game and will

1133
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 3: you play? Games you still?

1134
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 4: Play they have Now i've been on, there but BECAUSE

1135
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: i GOT i switched To apple around seven eight years,

1136
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 4: ago and they didn't have the game compatible for For.

1137
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 4: Mac and NOW i think they've made the, game uh

1138
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: compatible for A. Mac it's not the. Same there's they

1139
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 4: got to get some kinks out of, it but you

1140
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 4: can play. It and until they get the kinks out

1141
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: and make it like a REGULAR, Pc i'll play again

1142
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 4: in the off. SEASON i kind of like the fact

1143
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 4: that you know you can just it's fun to roll

1144
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 4: the dice you feel like you BUT i don't mind

1145
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: pressing the. Button you know you can hold that button,

1146
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 4: down let it roll for you fifteen seconds and then

1147
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 4: let go in coming, up.

1148
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: We need to get the two of you playing against each.

1149
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: Other that would be.

1150
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 4: Fun oh.

1151
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: That would me Against. Keith that that would be.

1152
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: Great just Say dad will set it up by button

1153
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: dialing you three or four.

1154
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 6: Times one more THING i got On, Yes, YES i

1155
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 6: played sixty three on.

1156
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 4: You The mets were, terrible right at least the sixty

1157
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: Two mets had, hitting and they were they had no

1158
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 4: hitting in sixty. Three they went they took a step.

1159
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 4: BACKWARDS i couldn't win with. Them this, Terrible.

1160
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: So, keith you're saying the sixty Three mets were even

1161
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: worse than the sixty Two, mets at least.

1162
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: Offensively, right, offensively they were.

1163
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 4: Terrible look at, That look at their?

1164
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: Lineup did you throw cards up in the air like

1165
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 3: you did With Bob? Lemon this is so. Good i'm

1166
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: so this is so. Great all, Right, keith thank you

1167
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: so much for joining. Us we could go on for

1168
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: three more. HOURS i told you fifteen. Minutes we went

1169
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: forty five because we got on The bullwinkle and hi,

1170
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: ME i, mean.

1171
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 4: It's Just ridiculousneen Forty cincinnati fifty Six pirates took At klementy's.

1172
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 3: Card oh, wow what's that throwing arm?

1173
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 4: THERE i love Playing the old leagues are kind of,

1174
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: boring especially in the fifties because especially in The American,

1175
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 4: League oh my, god it was just you, know three

1176
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 4: run home, runs guys that couldn't, run. Badfielders it was

1177
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 4: just a power. League where The National league integrated and

1178
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 4: had all that, speed and they were so, much so

1179
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 4: much more fun to play The National league because you

1180
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 4: can do so much. More you can hit and, run

1181
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 4: you can, steal and you know all those Great African

1182
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: american players that came. In you, know it just changed the, game.

1183
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: Really really, Did. Jeff they used to Play Aaron mays

1184
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: And clementing in the same outfield in The All Star

1185
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: game WHEN i was a little. Kid if you don't

1186
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: think that didn't resonate with me then and for the

1187
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: rest of my, life then you don't know.

1188
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: Me because those.

1189
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: Were the days THAT i, said this is what Major

1190
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: league baseball is all.

1191
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 4: About and The reds were the first team to have

1192
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 4: an all black Outfield. Cincinnati that Was Frank, Robinson Beda,

1193
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 4: Penson Beda. Penson you can make an argument for The

1194
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 4: hall Of.

1195
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: Fame hall Of, Famer, yes, Absolutely and.

1196
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 4: It Was Tommy HARPER i think was the other day

1197
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 4: he was outfield in Major league?

1198
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 3: Baseball, right those were the, days all, Right, keith thanks

1199
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: again so, Much, Jeff thanks thanks For.

1200
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: Keith that is a sight to be seen flashing his season.

1201
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: CARDS i feel like they want a Block jas table In.

1202
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 3: Vegas, keith thank you so so.

1203
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 1: Much All, Right thank you so much To Keith hernandez

1204
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: for such an incredible. Interview and we have very exciting.

1205
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: News this is our final off season podcast episode because

1206
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: in two weeks we are back kicking off the regular,

1207
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: season which means we're going weekly. Again But, dad we

1208
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: had so much fun in twenty twenty four that you AND,

1209
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,479
Speaker 1: i the only two members of THIS, llc the only

1210
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: two people who work on this, podcast have decided that

1211
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,959
Speaker 1: we are going to start doing two episodes a week

1212
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: Of Is this A Great?

1213
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: Game Or?

1214
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: What releasing Now tuesdays at Midnight Eastern Standard time And

1215
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: friday mornings at midnight On Eastern Standard.

1216
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: Time, dad this is.

1217
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: BIG i cannot wait to spend some more time with

1218
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: you talking. Baseball this has been a dream come true for.

1219
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: Me well me, Too.

1220
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 3: Jeff have you told your Wife emily that we are

1221
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 3: planning on doing this because your workload just got a

1222
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: whole lot bigger with a second?

1223
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: Episode is she aware of?

1224
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: This thank you so much for, listening. EVERYBODY i have

1225
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: to go tell her. Now, No, NO i did. AN

1226
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: i have to give my wife a lot of. CREDIT

1227
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: i was talking to her about the. Podcast this is

1228
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: right after you AND i had recorded a for an

1229
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: off season episode and we were sitting in. Bed we

1230
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: were talking about, it AND i, SAID i feel like

1231
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: this is really our year to like pedal to the

1232
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: medal With Is this A Great?

1233
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: Game or.

1234
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: What and she, said have you ever thought about doing.

1235
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: It twice a? Week? Wow AND i kind of.

1236
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: Said, yeah that WAS i was kind of kicking that.

1237
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: AROUND i, Know, dad you had been kicking it, around and,

1238
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: respectfully you would always said to, Me, jeff this is

1239
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: going to be more work for me Because i'm the

1240
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: one doing the editing and all of that. Stuff AND i,

1241
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Said i'm. In and my wife was the. Idea it

1242
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: was her, idea and you AND i are ready to.

1243
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Go so On march the, eighteenth it will be our

1244
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: first episode back for the regular, season and then that

1245
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: means On march the twenty, first That friday will be our.

1246
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Second we're going to be doing two a. Week tuesday

1247
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: mornings at midnight you can get, it And friday mornings at.

1248
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: Midnight it's a big, Undertaking, Dad BUT i wouldn't want

1249
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: to do this with anybody. Else Is this has been

1250
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: the highlight of my personal and professional. Career to be

1251
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: able to do this with, you well mine, Too jeff can.

1252
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 3: Wait so let's get Going march the eighteenth to a.

1253
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: Week thanks for, listening and as, always thank you for

1254
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: being a part of our.

1255
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: Family