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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And what a

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Speaker 1: slate of AFC Wildcard games just finished off with the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans defeating the Pittsburgh Steelers, and what a game

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Speaker 1: for them. Obviously we're gonna talk about the Bills and Jags,

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Speaker 1: and we got to talk about the Patson Chargers, but

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans looked like the class of the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Even on a day where it looked like everything that

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Speaker 1: could go wrong did go wrong for the Houston Texans offense,

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Speaker 1: the defense said, hey, don't worry about it. Don't let

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Speaker 1: him score, don't give him a pick six or let

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Speaker 1: him return the fun before touchdown. Will handle the rest.

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Speaker 1: It was a healthy dose of Will Anderson, Danil Hunter,

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Speaker 1: Kaylin Bullocks, Kamari lassiter Aziz, I'll shay here. Everybody got

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Speaker 1: in on it, and it was a beautiful, beautiful game

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Speaker 1: by that defense. I just love it. I enjoyed every

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Speaker 1: second watching that defense. At times, Mitchell, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: the offense to just take take a knee, go back

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Speaker 1: to the huddle, take another knee, go back to the huddle,

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Speaker 1: take another knee, and put the ball because I want

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Speaker 1: this defense back on the field. And I'm gonna use

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Speaker 1: a great, a hardball quote Mitchell because he always says,

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Speaker 1: who got it better than us? And you gotta say nobody.

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Speaker 1: And all I want to say is who want to

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Speaker 1: play the Houston Texas And the answer is nobody. And

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Speaker 1: I mean not a soul.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you, Rich You saw this one

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Speaker 2: coming too. You've been talking, You've been talking them up

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Speaker 2: for the last eight weeks. I feel like this defense.

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Speaker 2: I feel like ever since you sat down with this

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Speaker 2: secondary at Thursday Night Football when you were down in Houston,

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Speaker 2: you sung their praises and they delivered. I mean, for

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Speaker 2: a team, the Houston Texans really gave the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: a lot of opportunity, especially in that first class in

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Speaker 2: that first half.

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Speaker 1: CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud couldn't seem to hold onto the ball fumbled at

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Speaker 2: what five times? Two lost fumbles. I mean, if the

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Speaker 2: Steelers could have just taken advantage of those opportunities, this

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Speaker 2: game could have been so different. Because if you're just

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Speaker 2: flipping in now and you're seeing a final score of

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Speaker 2: thirty to six, I can promise you it did not

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Speaker 2: look like that throughout this game. The Texans defense, oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness, relentless, ferocious, Richard, this was a Richard Sherman game.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like you loved watching good defensive football,

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Speaker 2: and that's what we saw today. Offensively, though, the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 2: they got a guy who a resurgence of which, if

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Speaker 2: you want to call it that, Christian Kirk, What the

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Speaker 2: heck happened there? Eight receptions, one hundred and forty four

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Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown. He was a big bright light

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Speaker 2: for them on that offense, as well as Reddy Woody

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Speaker 2: Marks and then the battering ram Nick Chubb looked like

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Speaker 2: his old self. Forty eight tough yards. Richard, you love

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Speaker 2: this Texans team, but this was a dismantling in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. I gotta believe you love him even more now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them because they are who we thought

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Speaker 1: game for CJ. Strout, And I think I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: was old school football, the best kind of football. And

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Speaker 1: it didn't matter. The Neil Hunter was All Pro, Will

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Speaker 1: And when you've got guys, young guys who just don't

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Speaker 1: any team to deal with. And I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: be any kind of walk in the park. And obviously

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Speaker 1: they understand that the issues are what are the Houston

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Speaker 1: get that going? What are they gonna do again this

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Speaker 1: front of the New England Patriots. They're the number two

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Speaker 1: seed for a reason, but they haven't seen anything like this,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Richard.

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Speaker 2: The way you dissected Houston's defense got me thinking, here, man,

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Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of great defenses since the Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks have old won the Super Bowl. The legion of

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Speaker 2: boom Man, I mean ferocious. What you just described to

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Speaker 1: Richard.

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Speaker 2: Is this the closest thing we've seen to the legion

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, because we haven't seen the Seattle

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Speaker 1: and they've played fantastic all season long, so I can't

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Speaker 1: to audition for that seat as the best defense since

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Speaker 1: we stepped on the field. But with the teams that

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Speaker 1: sure Pittsburgh still had hope in this game. Hey, they

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Speaker 1: said they did the old school Mortal Kombat deal Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: They finished. They said, he took the heart, pulled it

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Speaker 1: and stepped on it. They closed that game. And that's

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Speaker 1: a regular season game. Versus two of these great defenses,

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Speaker 1: gonna be a defensive game that's gonna have me on

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Speaker 2: You could see the frustration just take over Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: went down ten points. Richard, Are we gonna see Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers back in Pittsburgh next year?

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Speaker 1: Or is this it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he looked a lot better than I think

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Speaker 2: Helped lead this team to the playoffs. You know, I

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Speaker 2: don't think this is a season that the organization is

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Speaker 2: this is a win for them all things considered. Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers did a lot with not much. I mean, his

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Speaker 2: primary weapon was DK Metcalf. They got Kenneth game well

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. I think he's still got something left in

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Speaker 2: the tank. Do you think we see him next year?

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Speaker 2: That's a That's a question I wish I could answer.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in that front offense. I'm not in that

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Speaker 1: I really, I really can't put it because they're the

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Speaker 1: don't know if I see Aaron Rodgers coming back with

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Speaker 1: Do these old older veterans who haven't been with Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: who had a fantastic season. Are they gonna pay him

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Speaker 1: He played a fantastic game in this get in this

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Speaker 1: they don't do what somebody else will. But I really

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Speaker 1: can't say. Next week will be a big week for

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers and they'll tell us a lot about

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Speaker 1: their future, no question about it. I know you're fired

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Speaker 2: You've had your reservations about Trevor Lawrence for years now,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes this this New England

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Speaker 1: And uh, but that the Chargers defense got to Drake

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Speaker 1: those issues dealing with Oh way, you think Oway was

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Speaker 1: season long? Ken Drake may have the time to be

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Speaker 1: do that, but he was able to do it in

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Speaker 1: game was a three to six ball game for a

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Speaker 1: lot of this game, and it was back and forth

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Speaker 1: that they couldn't get away. And a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Chargers issues are because they were without their two star

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Speaker 1: tackles and Rashaun Slater who they lost in training camp

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Speaker 1: midseason to that high ankle spring. They they couldn't they

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Speaker 1: couldn't protect her, and and the New England Patriots took

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Speaker 1: advantage of it. They sacked them six times. That defense

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Speaker 1: was roaring, they were, they were feisty, they were they

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Speaker 1: were running and hitting. I mean, they looked like a

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel coach defense, no question about that. But but

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Speaker 1: are they gonna be able to do that to the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans Now, the Houston Texans O line, they aren't

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Speaker 1: world beaters. They gave up some pressure to to to

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, no question about it, And and CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud fumbled the foot also, that's gonna be a concern.

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Speaker 1: H Clavon Chase On played really well in his game,

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Speaker 1: and Milton Williams they both had two sacks apiece. But

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Speaker 1: if CJ. Stroud can protect the football and they can

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Speaker 1: give it to Mars and they can do what they

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Speaker 1: need to do to run the football, a consistent show

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Speaker 1: up dose of Nick Chubb, they'll be fine. But we'll see.

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Speaker 1: As I said, Mike Rabel is gonna have them so prepared.

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Speaker 1: This is a big win against the Chargers. This team.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has said this Patriots team, they had such a

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Speaker 1: light schedule, such an easy, soft schedule, They're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to beat winning teams. And they beat a

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Speaker 1: very good Chargers team, a very good Chargers defense, and

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for it. If they can beat this Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans team, all bets are off. You know what.

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Speaker 2: They look confident and Drake maylook's poised beyond his years.

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Speaker 2: And then you add in the battering Rams at running back,

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Speaker 2: Travion Henderson and Remandre Stevenson. They've got the pieces available

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Speaker 2: at their to take carry Houston. Richard, how do you

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Speaker 2: coach the Patriots up offensively to beat a defense like Houston,

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Speaker 2: Because it seems like it might be an insurmountable task

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: It's it's about protecting the football, and it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: death five thousand cuts. You gotta take what the defense

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Speaker 1: gives you. There was some there was some success that

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers found, you know, running these corner corner

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Speaker 1: routes and attacking the edges of these defenses, the edges

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Speaker 1: of these zones and putting them in tough positions. So

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Speaker 1: if they can protect the drake nay long enough. There

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Speaker 1: there are some holes in this secondary holes in these

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Speaker 1: these zones that they run that you can take advantage of.

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Speaker 1: The problem is, it's a lot easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: But if they can block it up. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: been susceptible to some of these corner routes and if

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Speaker 1: you if you can get in the second window, these

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Speaker 1: dig routes, so there's a chance they can do that.

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Speaker 1: They can get that done. They'll have to really stick

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Speaker 1: to the run game, stick to run games, stick to

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Speaker 1: run game, stick to the running game, and you can't

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Speaker 1: go away from it. That's playoff football. And Mike Rabel

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Speaker 1: of course knows that run the football, don't turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over. Play great defense. That's that's how you went.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was an exceptional Wildcar weekend. You know what

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, Saturday night, wild finishes, Sunday good games.

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Speaker 2: I mean, which game impressed you the most? So, Richard,

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Speaker 2: which team really impressed you the most this Wildcar weekend?

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Speaker 1: The team that probably impressed me the most Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be a Houston Texans, just because they

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Speaker 1: just looked so dominant in this game. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: need their offense to show up on the field at all.

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Speaker 1: Their defense scored two touchdowns. If the offense didn't show

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Speaker 1: up at all, they still win that game. And that

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Speaker 1: is impressive. That's really impressive. They're going against the future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback and Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh, a

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Speaker 1: tough place to play in the weather, in the conditions,

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Speaker 1: and they walked all dog walked that offense all over

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Speaker 1: the field and had their way. And I expect him

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Speaker 1: to go to New England and really really be dominant. Well, Richard, we've.

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Speaker 2: Been doing this for a number of years now. You've developed,

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Speaker 2: you know, a good fan base, but also a certain

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Speaker 2: number of haters from different team markets. You know what

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Speaker 2: a lot of people coming at you in the comments

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Speaker 2: section all season long, but I gotta give it to you, man,

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Speaker 2: You're a savant six for six right in your calls

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Speaker 2: on wild Card weekend. So all the haters up in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay hate to tell you Richard was right. All

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Speaker 2: the haters in Jacksonville hate to tell you Richard was right.

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Speaker 1: Richard.

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Speaker 2: Impressive showing by you wildcard weekend. Impressive showing on Saturday

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Speaker 2: night in Chicago. It's been a hell of a weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's been a hell of a time all season long.

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Speaker 2: My man, we got another great one coming up next weekend.

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Speaker 1: Richard, always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you sign us off, my friend.

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