1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. I'll have side podcasts except 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: for what's Welcome to another edition of the Around the 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I've joined 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: in a room build with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey Dan? Happy 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Happy Flagship Show. Week four in the NFL. 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Three more overtime games. I know we didn't like in 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: this room how all of them turned out, Mr Sizzler, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: But the greater point is that football is damn good 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: right now in terms of, uh, how competitive the games are, 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: how fun they've been to watch, and you're not seeing 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: those think pieces Greg, like you saw this time last 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: year about how there's something wrong with the sport. Well, 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: it does go to show that Points cell I was 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: thinking about that on Thursday night because we were talking 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: about what a class the game that is, and everyone 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: that watched at home came out of that game feeling 18 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: like the NFL. It's it's why it's our favorite start 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the Rams and Vikings, and it's because Points. Ultimately, people 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: do like Point, but it's more complex and that there's 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: been more entertainment, there's been more late game drama. There's 22 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: been a lot of on stage on big stage, absolutely, 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: but also there's been more points and we Mark, you 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: know that Mark's leg is elevated right now? Is this 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: very health reasons? Uh? I was carrying too, I guess 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: is it a chord of firewood? I was carrying to 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: collections of firewood into West's house one night's Friday night 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: and collapsed to the like totally crumbled in the driveway 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: and landed on my left knee. And it's I'm just 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: sort of I don't have ice, but it's the version 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: of ice sing. It just putting my knee up on 32 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: the table to deal with the setback in it's a 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: health issue, okay. Um, I was gonna say last year 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: we were giving it to the NFL. This is not 35 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: just us, you know, being so you know pro we're 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: in the bag for the league. Last year there was 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: a bad football, especially in prime time. We've been lucky 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: this year, so there was bad energy around a lot 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: of NFL stuff a year ago. And I think right now, 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: and it's crazy that that Thursday night game that we 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: went to feels like a million years ago and a 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: million great games ago. At this point, there's great energy 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: around this season right now and what's happening. I think 44 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: it says a lot when the piling on the quarterback 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: rule is the biggest problem the NFL has had, Like 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: that's not You're right, Like tomorrow there's gonna be a 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: terrible story that ruins. There are as many flags this 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: year as last year. But last year it was a 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of flags and not much football action. This year 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: there's enough football action that people can put up with. 51 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: It does help that, like eighteen, NFL defensive coordinators are 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: systematically drugged before each game so that they have no 53 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: idea what's happening by the end of the first quarter. 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I am gonna try to be a professional and get 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: through this podcast. Taking Mark seriously with the leg up. 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: This is wild. What's happening? This is how I get through. 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm sustaining and I listen. I tried to firewood into 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: West's house. Did well? All right? We got a lot 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: of games to get to, a lot of fun football 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: to talk about. Week four Sunday, Let's start with one 61 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: of those overtime thrillies. Mariota throws in the end zone. 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Manister tutt T davis first ever text tex fis stamp. 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: That's why you picked him. That's why you want him. 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: That's why Marcus Mariota is Chevy w g f X. 65 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Clip that off. That's in the running for call of 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the Year. Marcus Mariotta connected with Corey Davis and a 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: ten yard touchdown passed just before the end of overtime. 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans beat the Philadelphia Eagles to twenty three. 69 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: What a game, A tough loss for the defending champ Eagles, 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: who blew a fourteen point second half lead and a 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: three point leading overtime. Greg this tight, this team, they 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: don't and the way that they did it has me 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: thinking they have a chance to be special this year. 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: It's one thing to win with Blaine Gabbert over the 75 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Texans with some crazy plays. Another you win in Jacksonville 76 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: nine six. The fact that they won by being aggressive, 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field from the very first 78 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: quarter and I know it was seventeen three midway through 79 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter, but there was actually a lot of action, 80 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: a lot of interesting moments in this game. But from 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: that point on, Mariota completed I believe at least fourteen 82 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: straight passes after they were down seventeen three, they scored 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: seventeen unanswered. You see Corey Davis playing like a number 84 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: one receiver, and you see Marcus Mariotta throwing the ball 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: down the field, and you start to see, Okay, this 86 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: is what Matt Lafleur, this uh acolyte of of Sean McVeigh, 87 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, someone who learned from Sean McVeigh and Sean 88 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: you know Kyle Shannon. You started to see that offense 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: take shape, and you started to see Mariota throw well 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and move very well. And the fact that they overcame 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen in overtime, fourth and four, and then 92 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: you had a moment at fourth and two where you 93 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: were gonna kick a field goal to tie the game 94 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: in overtime, and Vrabel has kind of his come to Jesus, 95 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go for a moment, takes the time out, 96 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: decides to go for it, gets it to Dion Lewis. 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: They marched down the field and win the game. That 98 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: that changes at at the course of a season. I 99 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: think they're just gonna be so fired. And that was 100 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: a trend in Week four. Coaches and big decisions, either 101 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: changing their minds or making unorthodox decisions. There it worked 102 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: out for the Titans. Vrabel said after the game that 103 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: he put that kick team on the field on purpose 104 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: to stop any confusion that the offense was going to 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: have because he knew he was going to take a 106 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: time out regardless, which is a little bit different than 107 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: what happened in the Colts game. We'll get to that, 108 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: but but Brabel seemed to keep his head about him there. 109 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that Vrabel, prior is someone with 110 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: zero pro football coaching experience, and along with Matt Neggie, 111 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: looks like one of the best new hires right now, 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: and and did not have a great track record as 113 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator in the NFL. But this Titans defense 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: has been playing really well, and they've been creative, and 115 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: they gave problems to the Eagles, who I think overall 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: they should not Eagles fans should not be panicking. I 117 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: think you saw a lot in this game actually to 118 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: be excited about. Carson Wentz looked much better. You're getting 119 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: something out of Jordan Matthews, which I think just adding 120 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: to the mix is nice. And Auson Jeffrey was back 121 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: and made a huge difference eight for one oh five 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: and one for Jeffrey Carson wentz thirty three fifty three, 123 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: eight and two touchdowns. So yeah, this is it wasn't 124 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: like a dark day for the defending champs. It's just 125 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: the Titans might be for real this They deserve respect 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: and UM, I personally would not call them the Titoons anymore. Decision. 127 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: Jarrell Casey playing as well as Fletcher Cox this year. 128 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: He's been awesome today. Harold Landry is one of the 129 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: impact rookies on defense to Dan, A lot of there 130 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: already there. I've received probably twenty five strongly worded tweets 131 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 1: UM directed essentially at us to corral you on this issue. 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: Where are you with this is how? This is how 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: you generate heat and popping buzz around your podcast. Titoons 134 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: win some games in December. Nice job. In September, just 135 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: beat the a f C, the you know, the the 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: division leaders, guys who made the cover chain. They beat 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl chain and they and what I 138 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: liked is they changed their plan. They couldn't run the 139 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: ball and they just started to throw it like crazy 140 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: because that was who cares what I what I call them? 141 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Enjoy your your team, Tennessee. I think some people do 142 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: care d Tennessee region. I think they're going to be 143 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: enjoying them this year. It's fun squad, all right, let's 144 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: uh move on weeks with the snap, it's down, Daniel, 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: what the whole fair Bears kick is off and it's 146 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: good and the Texans win it over time at the buzzer, 147 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: fair Bear drills it and the Texans get their first 148 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: k I l t Mark VanderMeer with a call one 149 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 1: of my favorite names in the game right now. Kaimi 150 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: Fairbar took advantage of a second chance at a game winner, 151 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: connecting on a thirty seven yard or as time expired 152 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: an overtime to give the Houston Texans a thirty seven 153 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: thirty four win over the Indianapolis Colts. Bareburn missed the 154 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: first kick. Why left, but the Cults it called time out. 155 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: He didn't miss what it counted, Mark. That's how it ended. 156 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: But this game will be remembered for an extremely gutsy 157 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: or extremely dumb decision by Frank Reich. Absolutely, it's fourth 158 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: and four with twenty seven seconds left in overtime, and 159 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: they are sitting at the Culture, sitting at their own 160 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: forty three yard line, and they dial up a pass 161 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: that falls incomplete from Andrew Luck to Chester Rogers, and 162 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: right away Twitter lights up with people asking why on 163 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: earth did coach Frank Reich go for this this way? 164 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: Why be this aggressive when there were other ways out 165 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: of this game? He came out very strongly afterwards explaining 166 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: why he did it. Do we want to get to 167 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: that sound clippe? We're not playing the tie? I mean 168 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: when we're going for that ten times out of ten, 169 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's just the way it's got a role. Yeah, 170 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't normally normally like push uh 171 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: like Erica into soundclip world. So I I was in 172 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: a new honestly, like you stuck the landing there. You 173 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: just had to trust your instincts. That extra couple of words. Well, 174 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: if I you know, I do that maybe once a 175 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: year on the show. So next year at this time, 176 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll do a better job. And I hear it one 177 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: more time, I thought, because I wasn't listening, Um, you know, 178 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: just address it now. I mean we're not playing to tie. 179 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean when we're going for that ten times out 180 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: of ten, I mean that's just the way it's got 181 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: a role. West did you like it? Well? The philosophy 182 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: is the same as Rabels, But the execution was faulty, 183 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: and I think you can criticize Frank for taking the 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: time out the play before to try to get the 185 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: defense to jump off sides, leaving himself with little wig 186 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: room there. You can also fault him for not choosing 187 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: on a fourth and fourth play, say your best two 188 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: point conversion type of run play, which would have left 189 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: the other team with no time on the clock had 190 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: they gotten the ball back. What do you what do 191 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: you mean that the clock stops the second you run 192 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: the ball, So that's gonna running play will take more 193 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: time than a passing play, but it still would have 194 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: left you with about twenty seconds I think, if not 195 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: a thing less than that, right, I mean, there were 196 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven seconds at the at the point of the snap. 197 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: It went down to twenty four on the incomplete pass. 198 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna change possession and the clock is gonna stop. 199 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: Maybe it's an extra three or four seconds. Maybe, But 200 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: I like the idea in general, the execution and the 201 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: spot on the field and the way that game was flowing. 202 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: I can understand the criticism, but maybe kind of like Mark, 203 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, not quite trusting the process there, it was 204 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: the right idea and the long In the long term, 205 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna help out and you're gonna have 206 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: some learning learning the right idea on the other team's 207 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: forty three yard line and not your own. Well that 208 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: makes that That's that I agree is I think that 209 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: where it was on the field, you're just are asking 210 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: potentially for disaster. Here's the thing that you can make 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: a better throw, you can also make a better play 212 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: on defense. You had to give up a lot of 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: ards immediately on defense, and that's exactly what they did 214 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: to lose the game. So it's on players too. Deshaun 215 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: Watson first play after this fourth down failure connects with 216 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hawkman's twenty four yards. They spiked the ball and 217 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. So even even after that that 218 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: went sideways on the Colts. If they just put up 219 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: a little bit of a fight and get a stop, 220 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: even an incompletion that affects the time situation, you probably survive. 221 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: But they just didn't execute. And what should have been 222 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: lost in this game is how great Andrew Luck played. 223 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: Um This a week after a lot of handwringing and concerned, 224 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: concerned about how Luck has looked and how maybe that 225 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: shoulder is permanently damaged to the point where where he'll 226 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: never be the same guy. He made a lot of 227 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: great throws in this game. He he had some drives 228 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: where again he's just an easy guy to root for, 229 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: where I felt like, yes, Andrew Luck, you still can 230 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 1: do this thing. Yes, I think if you are a 231 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Colts fan or a Texans fan, there is something to 232 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: be optimistic about. Both offenses, both passing games, I should say, 233 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: finding their way in this game as it went on 234 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: and on to the point where you really knew the 235 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: Texans we're gonna run. I look at this. This Cults 236 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: ground attack, though, is absolutely a mega disaster. This is 237 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: the most in balanced team in the a f C. 238 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: It is. It is hard to watch how it balanced 239 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: there and for their efforts. They played nineties snaps today 240 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: and they are on a short week to play against 241 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots. T why Hilton has a hamstring injury and 242 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Frank Reich does not expect and they're in a good 243 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: luck with that, they're in a good division. I think 244 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: the Titans and Jags are both playoff type of teams. 245 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: They're at three and one, and maybe that's why you 246 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: are should be aggressive that you need wins not tied. 247 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: That ends a nine game losing streak for the Texans 248 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: that dates back to last year. And hats off to 249 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Adam Viny Terry, now the all time UH field goal 250 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: UH leader after kicking UH converting late in the first half, 251 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: let's move up cross Scott airs it up deep down 252 00:12:49,800 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: the right side of all the spot Rad Sham k 253 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: r l D with the call, Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott, 254 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: just like you just heard, connected a huge thirty four 255 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: yard reception late in the fourth quarter. Prescott put it 256 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: right where it needed to be and Elliott made the 257 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: play Rett Mar mayor mar Mar thirty eight yard field 258 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: goal in the final seconds. Cowboys win over the Lions 259 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: at Jerry World. It was a career day for Zeke, 260 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: who piled up two hundred forty all purpose yards and 261 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown carrying a Dallas offense that needs it more 262 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: than ever. Big win for Big D Chris Westley. Yeah, 263 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: this game could have gone either way, and the Lions 264 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: took the lead right before that play we just heard 265 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: announced Ezekie Alliott over the shoulder grab against Gerard Davis 266 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: and coverage thirty five yards down the field. Just a 267 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: phenomenal play from a running back. And Zeke last week 268 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: moved the chains but had some critical airs that cost 269 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. This week, he moved the chains and kept 270 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: making big play after play. The best player on the 271 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: field in this game. You called this his best game 272 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: yet as a Dallas Cowboy. Wow, Yeah, it's going out 273 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: on a limb, but I do think it was. When 274 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: you watch the game, the impact that he had, and 275 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: he's probably the best running back in the NFL. He 276 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: either him or talk early well. He's also so important 277 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: to them because they just have so little else He 278 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: he made up more than half of the team's total 279 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: offense in what was their best day offensively of the season. 280 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: He is easily half the teams shows you how the 281 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: low of the bar is for Dallas. That this is 282 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: their best offensive game of the season. Their leading receiver 283 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: outside of Elliott was cold easily with four catches for 284 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: fifty three yards and this but I thought this was 285 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: also a positive game. This is no make make no mistake. 286 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: Zeke is the reason they won this game. But Dak Prescott, 287 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: who has been getting a lot of criticism lately, he 288 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: actually was able to produce. He had gone eight straight games, 289 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: I believe, without a two hundred yard game through for two, 290 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: didn't throw a pick, had two touchdowns, so a positive 291 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: game for him as well. He was fine, not nearly 292 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: impact that DeMarcus Lawrence had. He had another three sacks. 293 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: He's got twenty sacks in his last twenty games, and 294 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: he has headed for a contract showdown with the Cowboys 295 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: in the offseason. Yeah, he's gonna be rich because he's 296 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: coming off of a franchise tag that already pays him 297 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: seventeen million, and you're making your top ten m v 298 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: P cannits. I don't know how many defensive players are 299 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: going to get on that, but if if any are, 300 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: I feel like Lawrence other than Khalil Mack would be 301 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: in that defensive Player of the yumit because he's one 302 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: of the few defensive players that shows up every single week. 303 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: You can expect something from him. I don't know if 304 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: like a best defensive player on a two and two 305 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: team is going to be in my hear look at 306 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: this game by Golden Tape. By the way, eight targets, 307 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: eight catches, a hundred and thirty two yards to score. 308 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: He was making mincemeat out of the Cowboys cornerbacks just 309 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: could not tackle him. He's so good after the catch, 310 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: and their cornerbacks outside of Byron Jones, just weren't that good. 311 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: By the way. I don't know if you guys heard, 312 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: but Jason Garrett said after the game that that passed 313 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: that we heard the play Dak Prescott zeke that was 314 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: officially a nut cutting throw. Talk of he said, talk 315 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: about a nutcutting throw. That's just a visual that I 316 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what that what that means, but 317 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: I think that's good. I think well that I was 318 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: just about to say, Wes, you watched this game a 319 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: lot closer than I did. I kind of just caught 320 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: the end of it. That throw from Doc was a 321 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: beautiful throw. They need their quarterback to step up and 322 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: make plays, and that was a crucible moment in that game. 323 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: That was a nutcutter, Ald nutcutter. He's lucky that the 324 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: last play people remember was not the spin that he 325 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: took to move his team out of field goal range 326 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: on the third day. Something jarring when when Garrett goes 327 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: blue like he like when in that show, it's something strange. Also, 328 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: Jared Jones who's known to feel himself after games like these, 329 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: always fun in the luxury box immediately after a crushing 330 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: loss or a win. He fainted, uh, or he did 331 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: He acted as if he had fainted right after the kick. 332 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: And then I think Jane Slater on Instagram got a 333 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: video of him walking through the tunnel, uh, making the 334 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: comment we're worry' all worried about anything. Talking to the media. 335 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Who does a bad job and laughs? At least some 336 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: of them doesn't. It's like, alright, like go crazy boasting 337 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: to get to two and two with the narrow home 338 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: win over the Lions. I don't know, the Cowboys, the ramps. 339 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: Let's just reality against and this is another frustrating loss 340 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: for the Lions who were unable to build on that 341 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: Patriots win. And this is another one where they got 342 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: their hearts ripped out at the end. So the Lions 343 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: back to square one. Let's move up twelve seconds to 344 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: go touched Bengals. I love it. I love when the 345 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: booth guys, the radio guys, their homers at heart and 346 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: they just say, if it, We're pumped right now. That 347 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: was Dan Horde and Dave Lapham of the Bengals Radio network, 348 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: w c k Y with the call. Andy Dalton through 349 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: a thirteen yard touchdown pass to A J. Green with 350 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: seven seconds remaining, lifting the Cincinnati by Angles to a 351 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: thirty seven thirty six win over the Falcons. Dalton moved 352 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: the Bengals seventy seventy five yards and just four minutes twice, 353 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: keeping the drive alive on fourth down with completions the 354 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd mark a huge road win for the Bengals 355 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: and a crushing setback for a Falcons team that knows 356 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: this feeling all too well. Falcons team that's one in 357 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: three and the Bengals team that's three and one that 358 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: looks to me like a playoff team. Fifty two points 359 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: to the point of everything we're saying about defense or 360 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: offense and defense in this league at this point, fifty 361 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: two points scored in the first two quarters, which is 362 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: the most by any team this season in the first half. 363 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: And here is what I thought said so much about 364 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: this Bengals offense that we have been on board with 365 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: since August. They lose Tyler Eiffert. They're tight end to 366 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: a gruesome lower it's a fractured ankle. I believe he 367 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: has minutes seconds into the third quarter and and it 368 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: was such a terrible injury and he was carted away 369 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: shedding tears. At the entire Bengals offense I think was 370 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: emotionally affected by it. They completely went asleep. Seconds later 371 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: a blocked punt, then in the next possession punt and 372 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: then Andy Dalton threw a tipped pass that got picked, 373 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: and you could feel this game floating away from Cincinnati 374 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: on the road. And instead of crumbling, which we've seen it, 375 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton do the Andy Dalton who threw four picks 376 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: last week. Typically, if he's gonna go down the dark 377 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton path, he's gonna he's gonna account for another turnover. 378 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: They would hand this to an excellent Falcons offense. Instead, 379 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: he dialed up a field goal and that final touchdown 380 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: drive that you mentioned. This was one of the I 381 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: hate this word, but one of the guts here Bengals 382 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: victories that I've seen in years. It's a huge one. 383 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: It's not a lockup up though. What happens to me 384 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: in these football weeks is either everything goes right, which 385 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: is rare, or everything goes wrong. And I I locked 386 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: up the Falcons, and I also got stuck writing this game, 387 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: which took about forty five thousand hours. This game went 388 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 1: on for two and a half years, and I had 389 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: the Texans ones too. It's like, please throw me into 390 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: two darker corners at the same time. I have no 391 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: idea what's happening hanging there? We we talke last week. 392 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I think Mark you you yourself had said maybe for 393 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: the preview for this game, you don't want to put 394 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: too much on Andy Dalton because he's not quite at 395 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: that level as a quarterback. This was I think one 396 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: of his signature wins of his career and one of 397 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: the signature throws. The Falcons deserved to take heed for 398 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: not being able to close this out, but that play 399 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: that was a perfectly thrown ball to the perfect spot, 400 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: the receiver ran a perfect route. Cincinnati just outplayed the 401 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: Falcons in the biggest point of this was a defense 402 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: free game, and Dalton had his way, as did Matt Ryan. 403 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: How many teams have scored more points than the Cincinnati 404 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: Bengals this year more points, I'm gonna say none. The 405 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: way you set it up too, Sean mcveigh's Los Angeles 406 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: Rams are the only team that will probably have more 407 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: after Monday Night's game. But the Bengals are a top 408 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: five offense so far this year, and the Falcons basically 409 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: are too. I would say the last three weeks they 410 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: are the fourth, and they lose two straight games at 411 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: home like this to the Saints and and to the Bengals. 412 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: And I saw the stat that teams were three hundred 413 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: and eighty six in one when they When you score 414 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: thirty seven points with no turnovers before the Falcons lost 415 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: last week, this year, they score thirty six points one 416 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: less with no turnovers. I mean you usually at home 417 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: that that's that, and you usually you win those games. 418 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: I mean it's not like up for debate. But the 419 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: NFL is a little different this year. This has been 420 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: a it's been kind of shielded by some other quarterbacks 421 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: that have been playing out of their mind. But this 422 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: has been a brilliant three week stretch from Matt Ryan. 423 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: So for them to come out of September one in 424 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: three is bitterly disappointing. And you have to wonder losing 425 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: their top defenders two season ending injuries. This is just 426 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: what the Falcons are gonna be this there eight or 427 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: nine wins and and their defense is just not gonna 428 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: let them close out games. This is what you expect 429 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 1: to happen when you lose the backbone of your defense. 430 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: They can They're the best one in three team in 431 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: the league off the top of my head, and they're 432 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: not a one in three team that I would rule 433 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: out right. It does. It does every every week though. 434 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: They're right there with good teams, and they find a 435 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: way to lose. They can climb out of this far 436 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: feet dead. But they've got some some issues that aren't 437 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: about to go away. Let's move on. Tradition returned right, 438 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: He's got Debriel for the touchdown, bright fright corner of 439 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: the end zone. Six touchdown pros today My second year quarterback, 440 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: Mitch Trabinsky. Who Jeff John Janiak w BBM with the call, 441 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: Mitch Trabinsky, Yeah, that guy through a career high six 442 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: touchdown passes just one. Show the NFL record what the 443 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears the team around the NFL destroyed the Bucks. 444 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: Rabinsky had never thrown more than two touchdowns in a 445 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: game before Sunday's explosion. Maybe stole that fits magic from 446 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was benched in this one. Greg. This 447 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: is what you call breakout performance for young Mitch. It 448 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: was for him in the entire offense, for Matt Naggy 449 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: calling up the right plays where guys are just streaking 450 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: wide open, and in this game, Trabinsky was decisive and 451 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: hitting him. And he did have a few dimes, one 452 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: to Tarik Cohen I can think of, one to Trey 453 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: Burton where he was wide open but it was a 454 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: perfect throw, and and another to Taylor Gabriel. So he 455 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: was making chunk plays down the field. He was confident 456 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: he was there leading Russia. Robisky can move. I mean, 457 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: he is a He's a great uh runner when he 458 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: wants to be. And they did call a run that 459 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: was a key play in the first half. And so 460 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: I just think Matt Naggi has just so obviously made 461 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: a difference and so obviously looks like the Chiefs offense. 462 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: And the biggest difference today was he was playing the 463 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: box who are one of the worst defense in the 464 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: league and are so predictable and Mike Smith's gonna lose 465 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: his mind and the number two Strabisky hit his shots. 466 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: He hit the Let's let's hear what Dirk Cutter, the 467 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: head coach, had to say about the effort by his 468 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: defense and whether or not maybe the defensive cording to 469 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: Mike Smith could be in danger of losing his job. 470 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: We should fire every person that was on that field today, 471 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: starting with me. That was that was horrific. That would 472 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: cause some chaos, anybody any ideas? Right the Glazers, the 473 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: ownership there really worried about Man United, who's having their 474 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: own struggles right now. How about that for a little 475 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: Premier League knowledge they're falling. That's a big bounce back 476 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: after the war that west Ham Jersey and got killed 477 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: for it also known as Greg's fashion apocalypse. Say, I 478 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: don't I have no regrets west Ham with a big 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: win over over Man. Don't know Greg wore a west 480 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: Ham kit. I think they call it to our Saturday 481 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: UM media tour when we were in England, and I 482 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: think he did it. He's like, oh, this is gonna 483 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: give me a lot of points with the locals. And 484 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: he didn't realize in London west Ham is a hated team. 485 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: Just that's where you are killed. Just every team is 486 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: hated because there's only you know, you got killed five 487 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: hours straight up. Just to be clear from a visual angle, 488 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: he wasn't wearing the shorts and the shin guards in 489 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: the socks was actually better than an antagonist rule anyway, Right, Oh, 490 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: I liked. I liked. You know, at least people are 491 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: given some sort of reaction. It's like the Bears. The 492 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Bears used to be a team. There was no reaction 493 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: to Now I'm looking forward to watching them. Are you 494 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: feeling yourself just a little bit because you're accountable? Hot 495 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: take from our Twitter show is looking well, you've you've 496 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: essentially probably already succeeded at it. But that was that. 497 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: That was after the second week. Yeah, I said that 498 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston would be the starter after the bye, and 499 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: this game was not Ryan Fitzpatrick's fault, but he had 500 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: a fumble, he had an interception, and they had five 501 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: first downs and six drives, and and they wanted to 502 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: give Jamis Winston some work because I think all along 503 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: their cutter wanted to go back to him if he 504 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: had any I mean, we there was a report that 505 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: their cutter wanted to put Ryan Griffin in the Monday 506 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: night football game. So this was always to do this apparently, 507 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: and now he has his opportunity. I think, Greg, your 508 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: prediction is gonna come to fruition. Yeah, anytime you can 509 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: replace like one of the league's most productive quarterbacks with 510 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: the guy who led the NFL and fumbles the year before, 511 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: you have to do it well, Fitzpatrick, I think we've 512 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: seen who he is, and I think that's just what 513 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: they're over. And you refused to acknowledge that Winston's played 514 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: three years. I am definitely willing to believe. Here's the 515 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: thing that I'm definitely willing to believe that a twenty 516 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: four year old has room to grow in his career 517 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: year and he's shown a lot of good things. But 518 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: this isn't the time for that. It's time to give 519 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: a little props to Khalil Mack. Four straight games with 520 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: a forced fumble in a sack of outrageous and hit 521 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's arm on a play that turned into an intercept. 522 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: This is he had to turn two more turnover today. 523 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: And they listened to West about Terrico and gave him 524 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: the ball all day and and he was the guy 525 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: not Jordan's house team who the Bears, the team of 526 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: a T not the Bucks. Who's better than the Bears? 527 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: Definitely the Ram the team of a T N. Maybe 528 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: the Saint in I want to see more from the 529 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: offense on a consistent basis. The defense, I think is 530 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: a top five defense, no doubt, one of the only 531 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: difference making defenses. I need to see more from the 532 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: offense than one fire show against the Bucks are dreadful. 533 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: Every mind you of the Rex Grossman bears right now? 534 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Do you Mark? Do you remember the sitcom in the 535 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: eighties head of the class? Remember the cool kid that 536 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: used to sit in the back with the computer of 537 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: his leg up all the time? That's you right now. 538 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: I having a do every show that in every video presentation. 539 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: This it changes your entire delivery system. It just everything 540 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: seems flip and casual, and you're a little detached, but 541 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: you're relaxed. I woke up feeling largely lost. I still 542 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: feel that way. This feel is appropriate the way I'm sitting. 543 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: It's the I D what is it? I D F 544 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: I D A F oh, I don't give a Yeah 545 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: that guy, you're that guy. Yeah, don't tell the employer, 546 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: but it's very true. Let's move on out of the 547 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: shotgun takes the hand off to Timmy grand What side 548 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: of the pylon? Tous down here? The north ends out 549 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham he enjoys a lambow leaf. Wayne Larvey 550 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: w T m J Packers Radio Network, Aaron Rodgers and 551 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Grin connected on their first touchdown past of the year. GENA. 552 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Packers put together a really nice effort defensively, at least 553 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: a twenty two zip shutout win over the Buffalo Bills 554 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: have come down to earth after that excellent effort against 555 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: the Vikings last Sunday, so they can carry it over 556 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: in the NFC North Um. We we talked about this 557 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: last week. Aaron Rodgers needs help. He needs his own 558 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: his teammates to to kind of come in and and 559 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: help lift him when he's beat up and doing everything 560 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: he can. He got that today. Aaron Jones West who 561 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: you who? You like a lot? His numbers aren't gonna 562 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: jump out at you, but he really ran the ball well. 563 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: Gave them a lift um and a touchdown um. The defense, though, 564 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: and this has been a defense that Mike Petton was 565 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: supposed to improve it and it hasn't really happened through 566 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: three weeks. Yes, it's the Bills and and Josh Allen 567 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: rookie who looked lost in this game, but they get 568 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: their first shutout since two thousand ten and made Josh 569 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Allen just look. Lost three turnovers, two interceptions of fumble, 570 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: sixteen of thirty three for a hundred and fifty one yards, 571 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: And uh so the Packers do what they have to do. 572 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: They take care of business. They did with the Vikings 573 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: should have done. But Aaron Rodgers said it himself after 574 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: the game, Uh this was a really great effort by 575 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: by our defense, but our offense. This was a non 576 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: playoff caliber effort by our offense. And they still have 577 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: work to do on that side of the ball. What 578 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: percentage of outside of Green Bay football fans knew the 579 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: name Kyler fact Roll before today, who had three sacks, 580 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: who has been a whipping boy among Packers backers? Who 581 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: want that guy off the roster right when you when 582 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: you like Aaron Rodgers needs more help, I think of 583 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 1: the defense and the pass rush. Clay Matthews and Nick 584 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: Perry have been disappointing this year up until this game, 585 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: and fact Rol is usually their fourth ad dresser I think, 586 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: behind Reggie Gilbert too. So so this is a game 587 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: where you kind of expect Mike Patton to cook up 588 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: something that's gonna scramble a rookie's brains and that's exactly 589 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: what he did. And Clay Matthews, Yes, we don't have 590 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: to play any sound from Clay. He did get he 591 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: was active, and he had half a sack but no penalties, 592 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: and he was no fact rol because there's only one 593 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: fact Roll and that's Kyle. You're saying fact rol. I'm 594 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: not fat girl, right fact Rol. No, No, I'm not 595 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: saying fat girl. I'm not I'm not saying zaftig woman 596 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: like zat tig um and any other thoughts in this game. 597 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't really know where to go after what what 598 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: just happened here, but I didn't again casual cool, detached market. 599 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: Next time I look over, you're gonna be smoking a cigarette. 600 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be a cigarette, um my. My only 601 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: other thought on on the Bill side of the ball 602 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: before we move on is Lashawn McCoy, who I know 603 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: is banged up but completely invisible to start this season, 604 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: and he carried a mediocre Bills team on offense last year. 605 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: I think he accounted for a third of their offense. 606 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: It has not been the same thing, so I don't 607 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: know if it's him being getting older, banged up off 608 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: the field issues. But Lashawn McCoy is no longer a 609 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: guy that's bailing out the Bills offense. I'd like to 610 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: see that. Let's move on. Lettis turns up the field. 611 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: It's funny right to the time to the five to 612 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: own touchdown. Patriots, welcome to New England. See pay there's 613 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: your first moment. I'm gonna get this wrong. Twitter user 614 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: for rated me recalling Bob Socci by the like mispronouncing 615 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: it for five straight years. You should know Greg can 616 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: help me. Bob Socy. I thought you could just got 617 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: it right the first time, anyway, Bob soci Patriots Radio 618 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: Network w b Z with the call Great. Tom Brady 619 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: threw for two seventy four and three touchdowns of Patriots 620 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: hand in Miami, their first loss of their season, thirty 621 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: eight seventh detonation in Foxborough. Tom Brady improved the fifteen 622 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: and one in his career. First the Dolphins, who came 623 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: crashing back down to earth after that three and oh 624 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: start West, the Pats of effectively restored order in the 625 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: a f C East. I think they've restored order, but 626 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: I'd stop shy of saying they fixed what was ailing 627 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: them on offense. They came out and against a defensive 628 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: and duo of Cam Wake and Robert Quinn that has 629 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: about a hundred and sixty career sacks. They decided to 630 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: see if these pass rushers can stop the run, and 631 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle ran through big holes throughout the first half. 632 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: James White was really good as a runner and a receiver. 633 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots looked at the Dolphins said we 634 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: can push them around, and we don't trust their linebackers. 635 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Let's take advantage of them, and that's what they did. 636 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: It was not some game where braiding the passing game 637 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: got healthy. Philip Doorsett made a nice touchdown catch but 638 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: also dropped Tom Brady's best throw of the day downfield 639 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: called Darryl Patterson's touchdown came on a pick play at 640 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and with Davy and Howard got 641 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: lost and basically busted coverage. Uh. James White scored on 642 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: a twenty two yard TV one play after Tannehill botched 643 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: a shotgun snap and Kyle Vannoy scrambled for the ball 644 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: and got it. This was more to me like the 645 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Patriots got the brakes and imposed their will rather than Hey, 646 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots offense is backing, you better watch out. But 647 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: the defense showed up. As a as a Patriots fan 648 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: to see that the Dolphins didn't have a drive longer 649 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: than five plays until garbage time. I've talked a lot 650 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: in the podcast that they're gonna have to win games 651 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: different types of ways because I don't think the offense 652 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: is ever going to get to the levels it's been before. 653 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: And they had a game plan that just absolutely shut 654 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: down Miami. I'm not sure exactly what the game plan was, 655 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: but there was no running game and they concentrated on 656 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: Tannehill's legs too. They did not want him breaking the 657 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: pocket because I think they thought he's more dangerous as 658 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: a runner than a passer. What was that, Erica? Alright? 659 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: West and Gregg picked the Patriots. Oh yeah, I haven't 660 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: seen like that since the Invasion of Normandy. You're not 661 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not. I don't even worry about this. I 662 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: don't get three, and I don't get the locks because 663 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: then you pick the Rams at home against the Chargers, 664 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't mind. Anyone can take any locks, right they. 665 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking in the mirror on this one against the 666 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: three and O Dolphins, a team that Greg said have 667 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: major issues for the Patriots. They were in worship. You're 668 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: you're the culprit on this one, West because you're saying 669 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: you're trying to stick it to Greg because you never 670 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: were bleeding in the Dolphins, so you're using Gregg's explanations 671 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: as your cover, and that doesn't They have no issue 672 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: looking in the mirror against the three and O. T. 673 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: Mark knows what I'm talking about. That I will say that, 674 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, we look back at our grandfathers has courageous figures. 675 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: I think that our grandchildren this is the moment they 676 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: can I did. That's why I'm letting you off a 677 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: hook on this. The reason I did pick him as 678 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't look in the mirror and pick the Patriots 679 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: at home America. Help me a break, give me a break, 680 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: and I see what you're doing. West. You're playing it 681 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: too safe, and I'm not playing it safe. It Oh, 682 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: you're worried that I'm four and oh and kicking your 683 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: ass in the game you invented. I'm telling you you 684 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: you need to man that I'm running away with the 685 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: title like the Boston Red Sox and it's not gonna work. 686 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: I looked in the mirror I saw a brave pick 687 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: against the undefeated team. Hey, you can stick it where 688 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: the sun throat seine coming in Erica. What were locked 689 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: arms when we get through this firestorm? What were the Dolphins? Well, 690 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: they definitely were m I A hey, now yeah, Dolphins fans. 691 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pile on here, but anybody that was 692 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: coming after people in this room on Twitter, Uh, this 693 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: was kind of the game A lot of people saw 694 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: coming that the Dolphins were maybe not for real and 695 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: the and they really got sent back to the drawing 696 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: in a in a really positive game for Sony Michelle. 697 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: And I know he was on your radar West as 698 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: a guy who was struggling. I heard from one of 699 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: our super listeners, Uh, a mention to all of us, 700 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: Mike Burkewitz, who thought you were too tough on him 701 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: last week? He did have out of his fifty yards 702 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: last week, thirty five or after contact. Rewatched re watch 703 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle last week the mistakes did he made? Yeah? Mentally, 704 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is he's run hard, and today he 705 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: had fifty yards after contacts so far, so far through 706 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: two weeks, more than half his yards after conning. And 707 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: that's what I like to see he's leading. He was 708 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: not that impressive today. These were big holes he was 709 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: running through. I counted maybe once or twice where you 710 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: made a guy missed. This is not this, Sony, Michelle. 711 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: We saw it, Georgia. Maybe he will be that guy, 712 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: but he wasn't that guy today. Let's move on on 713 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: the right sideline up Dotamon Creep in to fifteen to 714 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: the Tana vide touchdown along the right sideline portals COmON 715 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: Creep star Frank Frangie w o k V with the call. 716 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles through two touchdown passes, including that sixty seven 717 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: yard or to donte Mont Creep, and then the Jacksonville 718 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars used a dominant defensive outing performance, handling the New 719 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: York Jets easily h thirty one to twelve. The final 720 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: Bordles career high three eight yards passing uh And for 721 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: the Jaguars fans who were scratching their heads after last 722 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: week's nine and six loss to the Titans. Loss at 723 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: home to the Titans, this was a welcome sight. Um 724 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: watching the game. You'll and you you boys will see 725 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: it as well. This would not be a game where 726 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at what Blake Bortles did, and I'm marveling 727 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: at his ability to stick things into the not the 728 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: corn hole, the turkey hole. You gotta be careful and uh, 729 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, looking off receivers and going through our defenders 730 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: or going through his progressions in some type of magnificent way. Uh. 731 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: The Jets played a very soft defense, uh, coverage that 732 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't quite figure out, and just portals did a 733 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: nice job carving them up on just crossing patterns over 734 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: and over again, ten yards for attempt Jaguar Jaguars just 735 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: kind of running these little crossing patterns maybe seven yards 736 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: over the field and then heading up field twelve to 737 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: fifteen yards gains. It felt like all day and um, 738 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: this game wasn't even as close as the score indicates. 739 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: The Jets almost from the first series, UM, were outclassed 740 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I think out coached, and and they 741 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: did not look good at all as a team. Uh. 742 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: And the Jaguars defense, although they're they're not as turnover 743 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: minded as they were last year. Uh, they definitely stifled 744 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: the Jets on offense. Uh, Jets offense. I'll also add 745 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 1: that I'm very concerned about Army Bates Uh, the offensive 746 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: coordinator and the and the scheme that he's cooking up, 747 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: and whether he's giving Donald a chance to succeed here 748 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: because it's highly conservative. Why at this point, Well, it 749 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: just kind of let it. It's I would say he 750 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: would probably say we need to be conservative, especially with 751 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff underneath, because Donald's not getting a 752 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: lot of time. The offensive line was overwhelmed in this game. 753 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: It's a tough matchup. But this is now three straight 754 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: weeks and Jet fans were used to this type of stuff. 755 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: But Week one against the lines, they put up thirty 756 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: one points of the third quarter and a total wipeout 757 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: on the road. And this Jets team has just been 758 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: terrible for three straight weeks now, so they've come crashing 759 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: down to Earth. Jaguars take care of business. I imagined 760 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: that my father would not be happy with today's efforts. 761 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: So let's hear from him. His name is Key, He'll 762 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: doubt about it. He's a big fan. Well is he 763 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: this day? Do you think today's performance by the Jets 764 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: was pitiful? I don't know what kind of defense was 765 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: being called by the coaches today, but it appeared to 766 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: be some sort of a zone defense. Which was so 767 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: totally ridiculous because everybody was so wide open that it 768 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: was almost it was so easy for Bottles that it 769 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Um offensively the Jets, I don't know where 770 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: uh donald is going, but he certainly again for the 771 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: third straight game, has played worse each each week. Uh 772 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: this week he really should have had three picks and 773 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: luckily uh three of them were dropped. But once again, 774 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: a poor performance by Donald, poor performance by the Jets defense, 775 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: even though they had a chance to come back a 776 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: little bit. I thought the coaching staff was also to 777 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: be accountable for not being prepared to play against the Jaguas. 778 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to let um, Thank you dad. I 779 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: don't want to let Donald off the hook either. My 780 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: dad's right, he is. He missed on throws in this game. 781 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: He got away with some easy interceptionce Jalen Ramsey had 782 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: a gimme that he dropped. Um. So he doesn't look 783 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: good right now either. Everything seems to be going wrong 784 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: for the Jets. And keep an eye on this now, Mark, 785 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: you brought it up last on the preview show. Is 786 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles in trouble? I really didn't think so. After 787 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: the Browns game. But when they get out classed like 788 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: this and you see it before, this is this is 789 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: the type of thing that can lead to w f 790 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: an callers staging a revolt against the coaching staff. Bowls 791 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: has got to get this team turned around quickly. It's 792 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: one thing if you if they all thought the offensive 793 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: coordinator was was this gem inside the coaching staff that 794 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: could maximize and make the most of your quarterback that 795 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: you're centering the franchise around. If that's not the case, 796 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: what is the selling point for this coaching staff right 797 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: out of time? And uh, it just makes you wonder, 798 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: why go if you're gonna have that short of hook, 799 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: why why bring it back in the first place? And 800 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: it makes you think back to when they first hired 801 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, And I think that was on Doug Marone's 802 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: mind as uh he called on a fourth or after 803 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: their last touchdown, he called for a two point conversion 804 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: up twenty nine to twelve with twenty seven seconds left, 805 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: And I think that was absolutely something that was inspired 806 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: by how the Jets treated him when he was up 807 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: for that job. And I thought for the first time, 808 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: it might have been the first time in NFL history 809 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: that a coach was running up the score on an 810 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: opposing beat writer. That basically, and then know that the 811 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: New York Daily News and Minish Meta did everything they 812 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: could to make sure Doug Maron didn't get that job, 813 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: and he enjoyed where his team is at compared to 814 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: right now. That also feels very jetsy that they're getting 815 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: punished because the beat writer for the Daily News hated Doug. Yeah, 816 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: that's not just not feel fair to the fin mini's 817 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: not dealing well with the beat writer title. Well team columnists. 818 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: Back then, it might have been let's uh, Mark, let's 819 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: check in with the other sad team in the roof. Well, 820 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: the win, good winding, the church spells the Raiders are 821 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: a winner. Just finished Barby, not my church. That was 822 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: Brent Musburger. Guys, it was kg MZ with the call. 823 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: I forgot that he does radio for the Raiders. Now. Uh. 824 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders got a touchdown on a two point 825 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: conversion to tie the game late in the in regulation, 826 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: then got that short field goal from Matt mccrane late 827 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: in overtime, securing a wild forty two win over the 828 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who have reasons to be ticked off and 829 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: We'll get to that later, but Mark, let's start with 830 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders and John Gruden, who persevered finally gotten the 831 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: wind column. Howd they do it? Well? They did it 832 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: by doing what they've not done this season, which is 833 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: getting back into a game that they looked out of 834 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: early on and holding on to victory and holding on 835 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: for the win by absolutely mauling Cleveland's defense down the 836 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: down the stretch. I mean when this got into overtime 837 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: and the way it got there we can dig into 838 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: in a minute. I struggled watching this because as much 839 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: as Cleveland was doing itself to move the ball, and 840 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: there's reasons with this very young offense in Cleveland to 841 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: be encouraged. Uh, they are defense, which has played well 842 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: this season, had no answers at all for Jared Cook 843 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: for everything else that at Oakland was doing through the 844 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: passing game. This thing is about a nineties seven minute 845 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: long UH War epic on game pass. So please uh 846 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: A plan accordingly? That was, and let's get to it. 847 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: The Browns got screwed. They should have won this game. 848 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: They got a screwed as Clay Matthews and the Packers 849 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: got screwed. In my opinion, this was a game they 850 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 1: were attempting to close out with an eight point lead, 851 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: about midway through the fourth quarter, maybe later than that. Uh, 852 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: they get a Carlos Hyde rush and Carlos Hyder is 853 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: running really well. On third down, he comes down his 854 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: elbow with the ball down on the l O first 855 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: down line. Of course that's not official, but they put 856 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: the ball down spot. It measures the first down by 857 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: half of the nose of a football. The repo was 858 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: inside two minutes. Uh, so the replay comes from upstairs 859 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: and they respot the ball and take the first down 860 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: of the way and and that stunning because there was 861 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: no evidence to indicate that he was short of the line. Uh. 862 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: That led to a punt and the subsequent game tying score. 863 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: So bad on the Browns not getting the stop. But 864 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 1: this game should have been over. Yeah, I these things happen. 865 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: But the one thing about this particular call on the 866 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: spot is that's one call that really how many times 867 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: this season is that kind of call overturned when the 868 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: visual evidence is so strong. I don't, I don't, And 869 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: you know what, you can choose to get super bitter 870 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: about it, But it's just one of these turns of events. 871 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: Where if you're Cleveland, I don't know what you say, 872 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: because this they also had a defensive There was one 873 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: other play where they essentially maul Derek Carr. He lost 874 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: the ball and the Browns picked it up and started 875 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: to run in for a touchdown, and they whistled a 876 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: dead saying that forward motion had not been it had 877 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: been stopped. And it's like the replay there also showed 878 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: very clearly which should have been a Brown's defensive touchdown. 879 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: So it was, from an officiating standpoint, a super odd game. 880 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: There were so many moments where it felt like the 881 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: Browns had won the game. I mean that that was 882 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: one of them. Then again, in such an offensive game, 883 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: it's unfair to put much on Baker Mayfield or the offense. 884 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: But they had a chance there to put the game away. 885 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: They went three and out. They did get the ball 886 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: with thirty seconds left, and they were kind they were 887 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: just about on the edge of being in position to score. 888 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: Mayfield forces one and gets picked off, and they did 889 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: get the ball in overtime, So this wasn't a just 890 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: go down the field or anything. They got the ball 891 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: in overtime and they went three and out there, so 892 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: they just ran out of gas offensively, and car who 893 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: was maybe a little up and down this game, he 894 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: threw some dimes. I mean, there's very few guys who 895 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: have the same touch on those over the top of 896 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: the zone defense passes as David Carr Derek Carr. The 897 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: Browns got the ball back after a fifty yard miss 898 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: by the Raiders kicker near midfield and they went three 899 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: and out, So they definitely have their chance. They just 900 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: needed the three. They couldn't get it done. And this 901 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: was almost like an NBA game to me, where NBA 902 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: games are kind of defined by runs a lot by 903 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: each side, where it felt like one team took over, 904 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: the other team fired back, and they just went back 905 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 1: and forth. It's exactly how one The one thing I'd say, 906 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: the one thing I'd say looking at Cleveland's just their 907 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: box score, is this is an incredibly young team. None 908 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: of almost none of these players have really played together 909 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: for more than a month or two. And it isn't 910 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: It is a game that's so set aside from any 911 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: other Brown's performance over the last five years that you 912 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 1: have you can't come out of here feeling hopeless. You 913 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: have to look at it and say there's something to 914 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: build off of here. Even with the mistakes Baker Mayfield made, 915 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: there's an act. There's an element of activity to this 916 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: offense with him on the field that you just have 917 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: not seen for a fun and clepetitive every week. This 918 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: reminds me of Michael Lombardi used to say how Greg 919 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 1: Williams is the battleship type of coordinator in some weeks, 920 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,959 Speaker 1: like the stuff he does up just doesn't work. After 921 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: the game, Gruden said he thought Rodney Hudson was the 922 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: m v P of the game because he called out 923 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: and recognized who's the center for the Raiders, who called 924 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 1: out and recognized every blitz that Williams was sending at them, 925 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: and they had him all protected up and it made 926 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: life East. That's encouraging Browns getting close. They could be 927 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: four and oh there one, two and one, but I 928 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be in the mix. Mark Hey, at 929 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: least they're scoring for them something points in their heartbreaking losses. 930 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: Now right, let's move on here. Coumps that pressure fallows out, 931 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 1: follows out in the ground, stooped up by the Chargers. 932 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle has it turned over Charger ball Derwin James 933 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: knocks it out. We know that voice Matt money Smith 934 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: k f I with the call. Isaac Rischelle's interception was 935 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: the ruling on that with less than three minutes to 936 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: play was the decider. The turnover that helps security Chargers 937 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: win over the forty nine is playing their first game 938 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: without Jimmy Garoppolo. Wes Rochelle made the big play, but 939 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: another l A defender caught your eye in this one, 940 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: Derwin James. There's no safety currently in the NFL who 941 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: plays like him. You have to go back to Troy 942 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: Paula Malo to see a safety this disruptive at the 943 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and Derwin James might be even more 944 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: disruptive at the line of scrimmage than Troy Polamalo. This 945 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: guy is in the backfield constantly every single game the 946 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: Chargers play. I tuned. I tuned in about the second 947 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: quarter and immediately saw him hit the quarterback Batta pass 948 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: sacked the quarterback, and then late in this game, another 949 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: hit on beth or caused caused that um interception by Rochelle. 950 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: But Derwin James was the star of the game. And 951 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: give give a hand to these Chargers running backs. Melvin 952 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 1: Gordon and Austin Ekeler are averaging two hundred and six 953 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: point five yards per game and one point seven five 954 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: tds per game. Compare that too, Ingram and Kamara had 955 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: about a hundred ninety yards per game last year and 956 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: in a touchdown and a half. The Tevin Coleman DeVonta 957 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: Freeman backfield the year before that had about a hundred 958 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: and fifty five yards per game and a touchdown and 959 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: a half. So Gordon and Ekeler, the season is still young, 960 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: but they are on a record pace right now. They're 961 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: going against the NFL norm right now where the tight 962 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: You know, the Titans don't have any running game and 963 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: they're scoring thirty five points. The Colts same with him. 964 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: All these teams are doing it with almost no running well, 965 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: and the Charges are in old school. The Charges are 966 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,760 Speaker 1: going most of it through the air. With Gordon and Neckler, 967 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean Gordon had a hundred yard game, but most 968 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: of their damage this year has been through the air. 969 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: And and for the forty Niners, I thought Bethard played alright. 970 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: The one note I have on him, and this goes 971 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 1: back to last year. Every time I watch this guy play, 972 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: I admire his toughness and think there's no way he's 973 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: lasted more than a month with all the unnecessary hits 974 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: he takes. He will sit in the pocket and take 975 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: your best shot before he releases the boat every time. 976 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: But he just keeps getting hit over and over again. 977 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: You don't want that kind of curt You know what else? 978 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: I don't want Caleb Sturgis on my team. Let's let's 979 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: keep it real here, miss the field goal, missed two 980 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: extra points, over two on extra points, Robbie Aguayo, It's 981 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,760 Speaker 1: time to dig him up and get him on the fielder, 982 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: at least bringing some kickers, because again, week after week 983 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: after week, the Chargers get undermined by their kicking. That's 984 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: that's true, and you never want to see a kicker. 985 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: Missed two extra points, but he did hit some field 986 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: goals down the stretch. They were shorter field goals, but 987 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: at least he hit him. But I got ye. Your 988 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: point is, well, take special teams are still an issue 989 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: with this team, and it's not just the kicker. I 990 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 1: think the teams that passed on Derwin James that badly 991 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: needed safeties. The Bucks come to mind. I gotta figure 992 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: out havens come to mind to fit the Bills, the mind, 993 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Raiders, the Bucks. Yet all those teams, 994 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: and that was one of those on drafted where all 995 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 1: the fans are like, why are you taking Derwin jameson? 996 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: For once? By the way, on NFL dot Com about 997 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 1: a month ago, someone in this room list of Derwin 998 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: James is the Rookie of the year candidate was Greg 999 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: Dan or West. It might have been West, might have 1000 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: been Greg, but I know I know what person did 1001 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: just it wasn't Eric either. We did West? Just go 1002 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: third person? Mark he was He was number one on 1003 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: All right, well, that will be fine. We'll move on. 1004 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: That did not go well, Erica and offen tide. Hay, 1005 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: he's got a big hold. He's to the thirty five 1006 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 1: to thirty tone to the five touchdown Alan Camara forty 1007 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: nine yards and that'll do it. From here in New York, 1008 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Zack Street w w L with the call. 1009 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara ran for three second half touchdowns and that 1010 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: dormant Saints defense finally showed up an oppressive thirty three 1011 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: eight team win over the Giants at MetLife Stadium. Um, 1012 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: you know, g Man let me down, eating a big 1013 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: old L. This is why you're upset about because that 1014 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: took another L. No, it is all about your decision 1015 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: making west my decision knowing that I got behind the 1016 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: team that wasn't a heavy favorite, but I thought they 1017 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 1: had a chance. Should have stuck with my texts. Well 1018 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: getting behind a winner. But well, then pick the Patriots 1019 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: every week. Do that, I'll pick take the trophy home. 1020 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: I'll pick the right matchup every week against an undefeat 1021 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,919 Speaker 1: the team. I know when you look in the mirror, 1022 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: you see ghosts. I see let's see four and oh baby, 1023 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: will let's um hit four field goals for the Saints. 1024 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: Early they were knocking on the door time and time again, 1025 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: and they were struggling in the red zone. The Saints were, 1026 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,240 Speaker 1: and you were thinking that would come back to haunt 1027 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: them because the Giants would eventually start racking up yards 1028 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: because the Saints been getting killed, especially on chunk plays. 1029 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: But something odd happened, or maybe not odd. Maybe there 1030 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: is an explanation. And Tony Romo, who called the game 1031 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: um or did the color for this game, pointed it 1032 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: out in the fourth quarter that the way to beat 1033 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: the Saints defense early on the season is attack them 1034 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 1: downfield and they don't have an answer. But the Giants 1035 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: offensive line is in such a state that they can't 1036 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: even do that. So when they're down in this game, uh, 1037 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: sixteen points early in the fourth quarter and they need 1038 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 1: a quick score to get this game under control and 1039 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: have a chance, they can't even attack with downfilled passing 1040 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: because every time Eli takes a snap, he drops back 1041 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: and there's somebody in his face. So that's a major 1042 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: issue for the Giants still, even they were a lot 1043 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 1: better last week obviously, uh, when they got got things 1044 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: together and got their first win, But that is still 1045 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: something that's an issue with this team. But give the 1046 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: Saints credit because they not only did find a way 1047 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: to slow down an offense that looked really good last week, 1048 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: they were able to close this game out. And I 1049 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: know that, Um, they're getting your boy mark Ingram back 1050 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler next week. But Alvin Kamarah is fine all 1051 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 1: on his own because he is just an ass kicker, 1052 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: and he put this game away the biggest drive of 1053 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: the game. In fact, the Giants had um cut the 1054 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: game to one score eight points and the Saints took 1055 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: over fourteen play seventy four yard drive that covers almost 1056 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: seventeen minutes, chewing up almost half the fourth quarter, took control. Uh, 1057 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: and then the play you heard there, Kamara putting it 1058 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: away with a long run. So a nice a nice 1059 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: victory for the Saints who needed it. Dan, where are you? 1060 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 1: You're sort of a closet Giants fan? I would say, 1061 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: you're not really? Uh, Okay, well you are. There's something 1062 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: about you and the Giants that is linked. Where are 1063 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: you with the Pat Shermer experience at this point? Because 1064 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: some of these Giants games feel a lot like Pat 1065 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 1: Schremer's first coaching stint in Cleveland. To me, I don't 1066 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 1: I don't really have a strong opinion, to be honest 1067 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: with you, Mark, What I can say is that Pat 1068 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 1: Shermer took over a team that has a horrendous offensive 1069 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: line and an aging quarterback who doesn't move too well, 1070 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: and uh, this is proving to be highly detrimental to 1071 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: their success in you can like, you can say that 1072 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: they can't protect against the Saints, and I get that that, 1073 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: but the Saints have a bad pass rush. And I 1074 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: looked in the fourth quarter of this game, and the 1075 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 1: and the Giants didn't have a passing play over eleven yards, 1076 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: like you have to try, like you I don't, I 1077 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: don't know. You have to take shots. You just have 1078 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: to give it it try. Like for instance, their pass 1079 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 1: blocking for whatever it's worth, rated out as as like 1080 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: a positive plus today for Pro Football Focus. I don't 1081 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: think they've been as bad in previous years. And either way, 1082 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,720 Speaker 1: you have to give it a shot. C J. Beathard's 1083 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: taking those shots. Eli Manning's not. Well, we'll see. It 1084 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 1: is interesting watching Odell Beckham, who for most of this 1085 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: game was catching balls within about two yards of the 1086 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, seems like a wasteful use of the 1087 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,720 Speaker 1: game's most talented mode receiver. Saints might be the biggest 1088 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: climber up Mount ever this week. I mean, Camara is 1089 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: ann got to get you got set up there? You 1090 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: plug The Twitter shows Every Tuesday one thirty Pacific, four 1091 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: thirty Eastern our live Twitter video show. Uh, we do 1092 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 1: a power rankings of sorts that are called Mount Everett 1093 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: and the Saints are making their move. We are are 1094 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: we doing that every week? Not every week but maybe 1095 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: this week. We haven't had our pre production meeting yet. 1096 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: We are constantly working through our issues on this show. 1097 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: A hundred and eighty one yards from scrimmage. He's up 1098 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: to five hundred and eleven. He is an alien. On 1099 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: the week that Alvin Camara and the week that you know, 1100 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,799 Speaker 1: the Carter five came came out, I feel like he's 1101 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: the NFL equivalent to Little Wayne There right't there's no 1102 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: one like him. He's an alien, Greg Squeez and he 1103 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: he does. He likes authon camera. Do you like the 1104 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: Carter five? Oh yeah, you're in the other night now, 1105 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: this is I mean, it's twenty three songs, so you 1106 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: maybe have to make your own little twelve song version 1107 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: of it. But oh yeah, it's Did you have the 1108 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 1: colored flames out? Oh? We had magic flames out? Beautiful? 1109 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: We had some casualties passed out in the grass for 1110 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: a while. I heard there was the rare person passed 1111 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: out while the sun was still up with that's confirmed. 1112 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,919 Speaker 1: She had rallied and was back back in the mix. 1113 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 1: By the time I was in. She had a She 1114 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: had a tremendously impressive second win after being out for 1115 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: three hours shot with I mean, how often do you 1116 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 1: find like just a female passed out in your yard 1117 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: and then way in this fashion. It was disquieting that 1118 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: that yeah, in fact, never greg that happened before her 1119 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: arrival at my house. I was busy cooking dinner while 1120 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: this was all going. Did anybody make sure that her 1121 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: air passage was clear? Yes? I. I outfitted her with 1122 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: a blanket and checked on her several times. West was 1123 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: a very caring in his but you knew she was 1124 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: breathing because you said she was snoring like oh, like lumber. 1125 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: I gotta get her on the show. Was impressive. Let's 1126 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: move on from fifty to Michael Dixon puts it down. 1127 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: The kick has got legs, it is there. Sebasti jannet 1128 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: dicks it through. The Seahawks win on the last playing 1129 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: the game. I love it, Steve Rabel, all right, oh 1130 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: with the call. Sebastian Janetkowski, who had missed two kicks 1131 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: earlier in this game, knocked through the fifty two yarders 1132 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: time expired, giving the Seattle Seahawks seventeen win over the Cardinals. Uh. 1133 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen was making his first start for the Cards, 1134 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,080 Speaker 1: could not get a w but showed some signs. The 1135 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks um are now two and two, but the victory 1136 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: comes at a brutal cost. Greg. Yeah, Earl Thomas had 1137 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 1: a fracture in his lower leg. Late in the game. 1138 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: He was carted off the field. He was famously, as 1139 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: everyone listening to this probably already knows by now, seeing 1140 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: uh flashing a middle finger. No confirmation exactly, look at 1141 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,600 Speaker 1: the bird towards the Seahawks, you know, sideline, But no 1142 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: one knows exactly who was at or what was going on. 1143 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: It did come after a long emotional period where both 1144 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: teams kneeled around him. Everyone knew right away how serious 1145 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: this was. Pete Carroll came over and talked to him, 1146 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: and he was understandably distraught. And this, you know, it 1147 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: was his worst nightmare. I mean, it came on a 1148 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,919 Speaker 1: touchdown throw. It was just it was just a bad moment. 1149 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: And then twenty minutes later, here are the Seahawks two 1150 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: and two. Despite this ugly start that they've had, they're 1151 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: kind of in fine shape. I'm sorry, I'm looking to 1152 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: see what the injury was last year? Was that the 1153 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,959 Speaker 1: same injury? Did? I think that was a nice traumatic pass? 1154 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 1: I was the longest wreck, the longest just silence we've 1155 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: had on this show in a while. I was doing 1156 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: some work behind the scenes to keep the show moving, 1157 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: so I wasn't ready to jump in. Mark's got his 1158 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: leg up. He checked out about fifty minutes. I thought that. 1159 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was definitely a toss to West type moments, 1160 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: so I was gonna let West go there. Let me 1161 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: let me give a little more context, uh for this game, 1162 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: Phil Dawson, I think I don't think you mentioned this. 1163 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: He missed the forty five yard or that would have 1164 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: given Arizona the lead with one minute fifty seconds to play. 1165 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: There now oh four. And Josh Rosen greg who started 1166 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: very slowly in this game, um did seem to show 1167 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: some things in the second half. Yeah, he his best 1168 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: four throws were all in the fourth quarter. He moved 1169 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 1: the ball on a couple of drives. They were down 1170 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: seventeen to ten. He had he tied up the game 1171 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: with some dimes, and then he set up what should 1172 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: have been the go ahead score. But instead of being aggressive, 1173 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: Mike McCoy and Steve Wilkes, who are on my radar, 1174 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: just called three straight eight runs, including on third and six, 1175 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: to set up a forty five year old a forty 1176 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: five yard field goal. And maybe that was a slip 1177 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: of the tongue because Phil Dawson is about forty five 1178 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: years old. He had missed the kick earlier in the game. 1179 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: And I hate this kind of coaching, and I hate 1180 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,479 Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll did the exact same thing a couple 1181 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: of minutes later. Carol got away with it. Sea Bass 1182 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: that wouldn't miss a couple of kicks, nailed one and 1183 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: made him look better. But this insanely conservative play calling 1184 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: of running and not trying to get closer for field goals. 1185 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: McCoy and Carol, they made me sick. It's two thousand 1186 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: and eighteen. Wake up, You're getting passed by all these 1187 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: offensive teams. Sea Bass in a Seahawks uniform is one 1188 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: of the most bizarre things about this I was confused 1189 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: when that highlight came up because I was like, heait, 1190 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: what game is that? It's borderline Jerry Rice and a 1191 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Broncos uniform. I thought, honestly, I forgot they signed him, 1192 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: and I thought an offensive lineman was coming into kick 1193 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: last week when I saw him, he needs to go up. 1194 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: It's jarring. You think he's gotta go. You think a 1195 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: little it's a little build. It's like a sausage case there. 1196 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: But but I did I was encouraged by Rosen. I'm 1197 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: not encouraged by the Seahawks just seemed a little too 1198 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: happy to whenever they would take a small lead in 1199 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: this game that to just get the game was over. 1200 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,919 Speaker 1: Cardinals owned four for the first time since nineteen eighties six. 1201 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: They are gonna be picking in the top three. They're 1202 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: bad in April, and that takes us to Sunday Night football. 1203 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Black O, umfy down the right shot, Wine upen is 1204 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: John Brown for the touchdown, and here we go. I 1205 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: don't know if we're getting a shootout or not, but 1206 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: we're off to a fast start. We did not get 1207 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: a shootout, but Joe Flacco and John Brown got the 1208 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Ravens off to a very hot start, a fourteen nothing lead. 1209 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: Uh in the first quarter. The Steelers came back, made 1210 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: a game of it. We went into the third quarter tied, 1211 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: but then Justin Tucker did his thing and the Pittsburgh 1212 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Steelers often sputtered again for the second straight weeks. Shut 1213 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: out in the second half to fourteen win for the 1214 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Ravens over the Steeler as you dropped a one, two 1215 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,520 Speaker 1: and one. Mark Sessler. Tough day for the Browns, but 1216 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: whenever you see Big Ben and the Steelers get beaten up. 1217 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: It's a good night, isn't it. I'm really I'd be 1218 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: really concerned about the Steelers if I'm within a thousand 1219 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: miles of Pittsburgh right now. Forty seven yards or so 1220 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: in the second half, the team completely went to sleep. 1221 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: At least in the past, even when Pittsburgh's defense would 1222 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: would be up and down, and it's been a very 1223 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: sloppy affair all season so far. You could count on 1224 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: this offense, especially in a Ravens game, to find a 1225 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: way to make it tight at the end in Baltimore 1226 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: dominated them over the final thirty minutes. It's another performance 1227 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: by the Ravens that I think just points to them 1228 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: as an overt uh favorite in the a f C, 1229 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: a playoff type team that could go as far as 1230 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: anyone could imagine. In this game would have been an 1231 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: even bigger bow if Alex Collins hadn't fumbled the ball 1232 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 1: on the goal line. It's it's great when the team 1233 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: that's clearly better wins the game. And for the most 1234 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: of this game, the Ravens look like the better team, 1235 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know what they're doing exactly at halftime 1236 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: on defense, you know, Wink Martindale deserves some credit, uh 1237 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 1: their coordinator that they haven't given up a touchdown in 1238 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: four games because they just were lights out and they're 1239 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: a defense where you're looking for individual players that are 1240 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of standing out to talk about, and they're not 1241 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: really that defense there a the sum is greater than 1242 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: the whole, is greater than the sum of its parts. 1243 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey is one player at cornerback that's been standing 1244 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: out this year, but other than that, it's just a 1245 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: deep group that gets after you. Rookie linebacker Kenny Young 1246 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: has been really good. I think you look at the Jags, Bears, Redskins, Rams, 1247 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: and Ravens. Is the top five defenses in the NFL 1248 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: right now, and the Ravens have the best kicker in 1249 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. They've got a quarterback who will be somewhere 1250 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: on the periphery or around the last, around the nine 1251 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: ten area in my top ten MVP candidates, Mama Mia, 1252 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is off to the best start since his 1253 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve Super Bowl season. He looks good. John 1254 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Brown looks good. Okay, this might be I don't think 1255 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 1: this is going out a limb. This might be the 1256 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 1: most balanced, well rounded a FC team right now. Joe 1257 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Flacco two three sixty two touchdowns. That is the most 1258 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 1: yards he's ever thrown against the Steelers. And on the 1259 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 1: other side, you know Levy on Bell there now the 1260 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 1: report is that there the Steelers are actively trying to 1261 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 1: move him into trade but they they're they've been unable 1262 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: to find a suitor. Well, I'm wondering, and I'm sure 1263 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 1: sports talk radio UM in Pittsburgh it's gonna start getting 1264 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: louder the drum beat to get this guy in the 1265 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: building because they need help and Ben Roethlisberger has not 1266 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: been able to carry this team. Uh and James Conner 1267 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: in this game nine carries nineteen yards. They seem to 1268 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: be missing something. Is it Levy on Bell? What can 1269 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: they do to get him in the building? That would 1270 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: be my I mean, I don't think they can locker 1271 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: room on him in the building. I think they I 1272 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: think they'd be happy to have him. But you're right West, 1273 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: they're not giving him a contract extension, So there's there's 1274 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: in They totally changed their stance on that. They're just 1275 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 1: waiting for him. And this is two out of the 1276 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: last three games James Conner has been held under twenty 1277 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: yards rushing. He's not the problem. He's catching passes. It's 1278 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: just the whole offense in general has disjointed. Antonio Brown's 1279 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 1: not quite been himself. Certainly make him in the locker 1280 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 1: room tonight. And we did ask I we asked the 1281 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: question going into the season. Was Ben Ben finished last 1282 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: season strong but it was an up and down year? 1283 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Was that a sign of some slippage? And so far 1284 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 1: this year he hasn't played as as well as you 1285 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 1: would expect him to. The problems some problems in Pittsburgh. 1286 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: Did they get it straight down right? Now? They're tied 1287 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: with the Browns at the bottom of the n f 1288 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: C North. So the Baltimore Ravens three and one looking feisty, 1289 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers in trouble. Uh, there's one more game on 1290 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 1: the week four schedule. Uh. That is the chief with 1291 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: you guys, Thank you um and you will hear us 1292 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: recap that game the next time we're all together in 1293 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: this room. That is our Tuesday a t n Twitter 1294 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 1: video show, So make sure you check that out on 1295 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Twitter at one thirty Pacific four thirty Eastern Tuesday. We 1296 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: have a lot of fun Connie Fox has involved Reggie Bush. 1297 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh it's a gay time had by all that's that 1298 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: that it is wonderful. And then the next time you'll 1299 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: hear this slogan, yes, a gay time had by all 1300 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 1: the around the NFL podcast And then next time you 1301 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: hear from us in a podcast form of course, Wednesday. 1302 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: So thank you to everyone for listening. Uh, that is 1303 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 1: it for the Flagship Show Week four. Dan Hans is 1304 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: signing off for The Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Old Boss, 1305 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and the Loose Cannon, Ricky Hollywood Erica Temposey Behind the 1306 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Glass Tail Tuesday,