1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast, where we 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: explore some of the big money issues in the world 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: of sports on Michael Barr along with Damien Sassaur and 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Rich Truman. And you know what that combo means. It 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: is Fantasy Football Wednesday. That's the crowd going wild a 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: lots to talk. We're into week eight, gentlemen, My goodness, 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: where did the time go? Oh man, more than halfway 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: through the season. Your teams, both of you guys have 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: good teams right now in our league. What you guys 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: are what five and two? Right? Well, I would say 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: I would say Rich has got a good team. I 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: have a great team. I'm six and one, he's five 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: and two, I think. But he we're playing each other 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: this weekend, so we're gonna have a better sense on 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: who is you know, where the cream rises. But I'm 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: not so great. He's he's so much better. He's so 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: much smarter than me. Well he has Damien speaks fact 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: and you're interrupting him. Besides, and we're not more than 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: halfway through the season. Damien's absolutely true, more than halfway through. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Because in a regular season, you know, in fantasy regular football, 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: you go up to fourteen weeks. I hope you guys, 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: there's an extra week of the season this year. Well, 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: but if you're playing in weekends, that's starting week that, well, 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be playing in week eighteen. I mean that's 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: still fifteen sixteen seventeen. Those are the playoffs in the 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Anyways, Uh boy, I tell you what it's 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: like today. Hostility in the room. Well that you know, 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: that's because you know, you get like that. You know, Hey, 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: we decided to take a look if you had to 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: redraft now, or at least look at the top ten 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: people that you would take a look at. And uh, 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: as of now, with the snapshot of the season, who 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: would you take now? So let's start this our. By 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: the way, are we allowed to well, I guess we're 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: not allowed to copy him now because you know, if 36 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: you pick somebody, I can't pick that person. So somebody 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: need depends. I'm just gonna be writing this down, allright. 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: We need a corporate secretary here, alright. I'll be the 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: corporate secretary to help you. Al right, gentlemen, h all right, 40 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: you're up first, Rich you know I we go with 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: the Austin the first shocker shocker Los Angeles Rams running back. 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I'd be the Chargers, by the way, Um yeah, I'm 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna can I go second second? I really 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: like see Kwon Barkley here. That's why your Damien's team 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: is so good because he has both running back once again, 46 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: the Mr Obvious so Ekeler with the Chargers, Barkley with 47 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the Giants, who, by the way, are surprising me with 48 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: great right, but giving you a two picks in a row, Michael, 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: I am giving you two picks in a row. Obviously. 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: I gotta take the only thing out here with that, 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: like Cooper Cup there he is, gotta take Cooper Cup 52 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and uh let's see. Uh boy, now this one is, oh, 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta take j J justin jokes. 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna do. And you know when 55 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: I wrote my list at those are the first four 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: picks I had. I'll go with the fifth pick. I'll 57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: go with Jamaar Chase mar Chase. Well, I think he's 58 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: coming back here. That's interesting, man. So here's here's where 59 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: I think we go off the reservation a little bit, 60 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: because you know, I know Christian McCaffrey has been traded 61 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people saying that's not a good thing 62 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: for him. You know, there's a lot of mouths to 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: feed in San Francisco. Now you've got Deebo, you've got 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: a Yuk. He got kiddled. But I still like Christian McCaffrey. Here. 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna show up in the second half 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: of the season in that offense under Shans Holt for 67 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: a second. Alright, Now here's the argument. Is he more 68 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: valuable as a fantasy player as a Carolina Panther where 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: he's pretty much the only option, or as a forty Niner? 70 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: What do you think is would be? Is he where 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: would he get more fantasy points? I would argue the 72 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. I no, I agree with you, because now 73 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of components on the forty Niners. 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, I had Jeff Wilson and I 75 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: went hog while trying to get him. And now you 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: know he's great. If you know, Christian gets hurt. But 77 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, now it's been rendered you. I know what 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: you're saying, but I think you know for me, the 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Panthers have struggled to get the ball in the red zone. 80 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: They struggled to do anything. I think he's gonna get 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: a lot more red zone looks on San Francisco. I 82 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: hear what you guys are saying. He got all the touches, 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: and there's something to be said for that and a PPR, 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: which is what we're talking about here. You get a 85 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: lot more you know, a lot more receptions, all that 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: good stuff. I don't know, I like them in San Francisco. 87 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I like the way it smells out there. I'd be 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: I I you know that that'd be my pick, and 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: that'd be men pick over. By the way. The one 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: name that's missing up here, Mr Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, and 91 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: uh as we restart, because we're going to three and four, 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm sneaking. I'm definitely gonna take Stefan Dix. Mr. Oh, yeah, 93 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: that's a good one. I'm definitely taking him. Uh And 94 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Mr Taylor hasn't exactly had a 95 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: great season so far, at least not to where we 96 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: thought where he was going to be when you started 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: this entire draft. And I'm not crazy about Indianapolis of 98 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: what's going on. So i gotta take a man who's 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: another running back who's kicking, but Nick Chubb. Chub taking 100 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: Nicky Chubb. Love that guy. I wanna go with an 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: under like guys on the Valion. I will go to 102 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. There he is. Do you want to go again? 103 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: You want me to go again, you can go again. 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I'll go again. I'll go with Josh Allen, Josh Allen 105 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks early. You know that does make sense. I see 106 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: what you're saying there, But you know that's why I 107 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: have a better recommend you. I probably go Derrick Henry next. 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: You know, I know it's PPR, but the man is back. 109 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: He looks tough, he looks he looks like a world 110 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: beater again, So I probably I think this is about 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: the time I go Derrick Henry. Get you get the 112 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: last pick, Michael, and I get the last pick. Boy, 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: this is yeah, the guy with the worst record, I've 114 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: the ways got six picks in our man, I am 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: four and two now, man, you know what am I thinking? 116 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey. There he is well done. Yeah. 117 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: Now here's one guy that we left off the list. 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. Josh Josh Jacobs has been fantastic. I mean 119 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, I think went in the last three games. 120 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: He's had of the snap count. I mean, he's just 121 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: been an absolute beast. Yeah. No, I love Josh Jacobs. 122 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: Here by the way, by only two teams are on 123 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: the by but oh man, one is Kansas City, Oh yeah, 124 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: the other one Los Angeles. And I tell you what, 125 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: the Chargers, Uh, always someone's missing from their one up. 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: This week he's talking about you, I hear. What's interesting. 127 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: What's interesting is you know you mentioned Josh Jacobs. I 128 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: think you know if you look at that game that 129 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans Las Vegas, and that is going to be 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: a shootout, huh. And there aren't that many of them 131 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: this week. I mean, by my reckoning, you've only got 132 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: that one. And then the Dolphins Lions Mr Barr the 133 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: only teams with over unders over fifty. But you know 134 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: the one name that I like in that biggest scenes matchup, 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: chrysal Man. He has been so good, he's my best 136 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: bet of the week. He leads the NFL with nine 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve air yards and he's only played six 138 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: and a half games this year. Man, Well, I gotta 139 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: ask now the biggest disappointment guys, did you think so 140 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: far this season? Who? Let me start with you, Rich 141 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: biggest disappointment so far. Well, if you go on chronological order, 142 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: you have to say Jonathan tell it. He was the 143 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: first pick in the draft and he has been a 144 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: major bust. And then on a personal level, I'll go 145 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts. I took him in my other league 146 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: over Mark Andrews, and besides that, I had a great draft. 147 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: But that, I mean, I still can't believe I did that. 148 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: I think Kyle Pitts and Jonathan Taylor to me at 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: two big disappointments. You were bragging about him when you 150 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: told me you got him right. Yeah, you know, I 151 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, you know, I mean, I'm gonna go 152 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: a little bit further down, you know the food chain there. 153 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: You know, how do you not call Tom Brady at 154 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: disappointment this year? I mean, here is a quarterback who 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: you know last year wanted for a lot of fantasy teams. 156 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he was out of control. But this has 157 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: been a huge drop off, and I don't think it's 158 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: just him. I mean, you saw Mike Evans had a 159 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: wide open touchdown on the first quarter. Dropped it, dropped it. 160 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not getting any help from offensive line, 161 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: is he was? You know, he really went like ninth 162 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: or tenth out of the quarterbacks in the draft, but 163 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: he shouldn't even be going there. He's not a starter. 164 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: He's getting dropped in most leads and Rogers has been 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: a huge disappointment also, but he's on Michael Boers team, 166 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: so that's good because some stupid guy, you know, I, 167 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: you know, just here, take Joe Burrow here. I'll give 168 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: you another huge disappointment. And it was one of my 169 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: predictions at the beginning of the season. Naji Harris. Yeah, 170 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: I predicted he would not be a top eight running 171 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: back this year, and he's been terrible. But then again, 172 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: I said, Kyle Pitts me a top two tight ends 173 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: kind of evens itself out. I gotta tell you, I dropped. 174 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: I had to make the call. I had to drop 175 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I had to make a call. Yeah, yeah, 176 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: I had to because another quarterback you gotta drop now 177 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: is Matt Ryan. He really quick. We got to talk 178 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: about that before we wrap things up. Matt, right, is 179 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: it the end of the line for Matt Ryan? Now? 180 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately it was about two years ago. More important, but 181 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: he's great. More importantly, Breece hole injury how you just 182 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: say right now, and well, James Robinson as a new 183 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: LEASA and like, how about Ryan Tannel's going to be out? 184 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: We make out our first look at Malik willis Ce 185 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Liberty University. Baby, So you know there's a bunch of 186 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: them out there. I think Zeke is questionable. Um, you've 187 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: got obviously now Shrubba Hubbard Hubbard sub Hubbard. I mean 188 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: that means and without McCaffrey there, who's left deante foreman. 189 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: So I mean like there's tons of guys and this 190 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: is gonna be a big week. I mean with Casey 191 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: and the Chargers UNPI and then all of these injuries. 192 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be it's gonna be very very 193 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: heavy Waivers week. You got Guste Edwards out there and 194 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: there's another injury. Uh, and you talk about it. It's 195 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: already stinking with tight ends. And in my other legue, 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: I had my man, you know, Travis Kelsey. I was like, 197 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm not worried because I got David and Joe who 198 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: who's gonna fill in for him? And he's been great also, Oh, 199 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: he's been excellent. And then all of a sudden, it's 200 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: like he gets injured we first thought, it's like, well, 201 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's not gonna be serious. Well two 202 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: to five weeks later, it's pretty dull, gone serious with 203 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: a high ankle spring. Let me give you a couple 204 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: of value picks before we wrap this up. I like 205 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Rahee mostered against the Lions. I'm gonna write him, Let's 206 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the Dolphins to get out the lead little on the 207 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: ball out Detroite defense is horrible, the worse against the run. 208 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: I'd also go with Kirk Cousins at home against Arizona 209 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: like those. I like those. I like luster gentlemen. By 210 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: the way, again, Kansas City l A Chargers, get him 211 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: out of your line up. Yeah, because uh and boy, 212 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: I know it hurts because you also lose Trick Mahomes 213 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: like a certain Anyway, this has been the Bloomberg Business 214 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: of sports podcast Fantasy Sports Style, and we explore some 215 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: of the big money issues in the world of sports 216 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: on Michael Barr along with Damien Sassaur and Rich Truman, 217 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: the brain trusts of this whole program. By the way, 218 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: you can catch our podcast every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: and download them wherever you get your podcast