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Speaker 1: What's Good Commands Family.

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Speaker 2: Brian Copra Junior here, and this is the Next Man

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast where we talk to your favorite Commanders players.

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Speaker 1: But it's not so much X and O's. We get

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Speaker 1: to know the man behind the helmet.

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Speaker 2: And our next man up is no other than Chris Paul,

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Speaker 2: our second year offensive lineman. Chris talks about his family

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Speaker 2: being immigrants from Nigeria, playing at Tulsa, being a part

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Speaker 2: of mental health advocacy, and wanting to meet the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul.

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Speaker 2: This brother is definitely a renaissance man. You're gonna want

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Speaker 2: to tune in. One of the best conversations I've ever

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Speaker 2: had with an individual, and it all starts right now.

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Speaker 1: What's Good, Commanders Family?

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Coper and this is the Next Man Up

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Speaker 2: Podcast where we talk to your favorite Commandis players.

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Speaker 1: Not so much about X and O's.

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Speaker 2: We want to get to know the man behind the helmet,

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Speaker 2: and our next man up is no other than Chris Paul,

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Speaker 2: the real Chris Paul.

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Speaker 1: Chris, how you doing today? Brother? Ah Man, I'm blessed man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 2: I know you're busy, man, I know we're pass halfway

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Speaker 2: through the season, So you got a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit about football, but I

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Speaker 2: mostly want to talk about you, where you're from and

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Speaker 2: what makes you? You cool with that? Let's do it

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Speaker 2: all right, let's do it man. First thing is for

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Speaker 2: you from Houston. Yes, what is being like? There's a

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Speaker 2: lot of pride in Houston, right, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Houston pride. What's being from Houston mean to you?

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Speaker 3: I mean it means everything. I mean I feel like

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Speaker 3: when we were Dallas. Yeah, anybody from Houston is gonna

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Speaker 3: make sure you know that. You know, like, I'm from Houston,

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Speaker 3: no nowhere else, no confusion. So that's definitely where I'm

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Speaker 3: I really do love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And you talk about Dallas real quick, So

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Speaker 2: where you hype when you found out, like, Yo, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna get to play Dallas twice a year and beat

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Speaker 2: up on them with your little height.

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Speaker 3: I was very high, very hard like. So that's definitely

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Speaker 3: an honor for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, being from Houston, Man, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: things that can you know, distract a young man trying

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Speaker 2: to come up. How did you avoid, you know, those

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Speaker 2: on because you're very focused and driven individual.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say it really all depends.

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Speaker 3: Like Houston, it has a lot of neighbor different pockets

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So thankfully, my parents made it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about your brothers, man, you have two brothers, right,

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Speaker 2: there's three of you guys. Right, you have a older

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Speaker 2: you're the middle, and then it's younger Yes, all yaller athletes. Yes,

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Speaker 3: It was so much fun, so much fun. I just

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Speaker 1: Our own Yeah. Yeah, is there any competitive spirit there? Right?

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Speaker 1: How has that healthy competition helped you be where you

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Speaker 2: That's fire man, that's really really cool. And then you know,

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's always asking me questions and shot he's given

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, man, how would it be you know, he

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Speaker 3: Man, that would be the world because if you think

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Speaker 2: That's really really cool man. And clearly, man, your parents

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Speaker 1: How inspiring are your parents to you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are the most inspiring people to me

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Speaker 4: Knowing their journey. My mom really came here the youngest.

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Speaker 4: And just to kind of see them take on that journey,

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Speaker 2: And you being a Nigerian man, what does Nigeria that

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Speaker 2: being from there and having that pride Nagia. Yes, you're

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Speaker 4: I have? I have so much love.

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Speaker 3: And really, when you talk about like my background and upbringing,

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Speaker 3: So I lived in Nigeria for about three to four years,

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Speaker 3: And so those are like, you know, pivotal moments of

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Speaker 3: It made me like well rounded, multi dimensional, Like I

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Man, I mean that's very young, right to being in

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Speaker 1: What are the challenges you faced going through that?

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Speaker 2: Which is cool as it it's just really cool and

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Speaker 2: it's amazing that your parents did that.

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Speaker 1: It was very very smart.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be attached to your roots. But what are

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Speaker 3: I mean there's challenges. Luckily, I'll say culturally there's challenges

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Speaker 3: two years to lose while I came back. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: How now, because you know, you're grown man, now you've

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Speaker 2: been in America a really long time, how do you

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Speaker 2: keep that attachment in those tides in Nigeria and stay

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Speaker 2: connected to you know, basically, what's the mother man?

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Speaker 1: For you.

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Speaker 3: I would say, we got to go back for Christmas

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Speaker 4: Wow, so that was that was pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: So it's still been a while since I've been back,

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Speaker 3: but I mean majority of my extended family I would

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Speaker 3: keeping up with them. You know, older people use Facebook

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Speaker 1: Man. That is so cool to hear. Man.

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Speaker 2: And if you haven't peeped already by talking to this brother,

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Speaker 2: it's very versatile. Yes, we know you're versatile on the field,

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Speaker 2: but life you're extremely versable.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You have a lot of passions, you have a lot

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Speaker 2: of things you care about. So let's get into that

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Speaker 2: a little bit. You end up going back to America

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Speaker 2: after in Nigeria and you start playing football. You didn't

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Speaker 2: start playing football right away right once you start playing.

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Speaker 4: I started playing sixth grade, so middle school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, middle school.

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Speaker 2: And I think I was telling you off air that,

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Speaker 2: you know, Kawan Martin was saying he played at five

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Speaker 2: years old. So you know, you're clearly a big dude.

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Speaker 2: You have stature. What sports war you playing? Leading up

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Speaker 3: The first sport I ever played was soccer, So I

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Speaker 3: think pee wee. That was probably what five years old, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, how do you get to this point though, right,

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Speaker 2: How did you get to that point into where you

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Speaker 2: We talked to I believe it was Jeremie Reeves and

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Speaker 3: Absolutely like what you just referenced, Like I call that

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Speaker 4: Me, it's music, Like that's how I like channel.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of how I unplug and like channels my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know to the casual fan that might not

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Speaker 1: How did you get into it?

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Speaker 3: That's your're talking like humming, humming, and like you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Really?

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Speaker 2: So what if you describe your style of music, your

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Speaker 3: I would say predominantly singer. And then when like you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I like that. You gotta throw me some tracks. Man,

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Speaker 2: I gotta hear what you work with. So you know,

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Speaker 2: clearly into a lot of things. Yeah, activism, music, athlete, family.

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Speaker 2: How have you managed to juggle all the things now

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I would say time management is very very important to me.

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Speaker 3: And like in college it was it was much easier,

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Speaker 3: And so, like I said, music for example, that's like

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Speaker 2: And a lot of athletes, like they'll say it, you know,

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Speaker 2: just play football, well, just play basketball? Like why are

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Speaker 3: That, I say, listen, like, there there really is. There's

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Speaker 3: you I guess you may have to like be in

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, practice, just just try a little bit and realize like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Person with a life outside of this under that helmet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to really help you understand and get

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Speaker 1: For sure, man.

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Speaker 2: And I mean I think even this conversation right here,

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Speaker 1: And now we're in year two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventh round pick right, I don't think people realize

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Speaker 2: could not make the team exactly, not only make the team,

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Speaker 2: How much fun are you having right now being at

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Speaker 2: this point in your CAREERCAU.

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Speaker 1: Working season is over, you know, the newness is over.

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Speaker 1: How much fun are you having right now?

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Speaker 4: First, like, God is so good, amen all the time,

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Speaker 4: He's so good, And I'm just I'm having the time

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Speaker 4: of my life.

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Speaker 3: Like a lot of times, I feel like time almost

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Speaker 3: like freezes when I'm out there and when I'm like

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Speaker 3: in the zone, and i just kind of like reflect

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Speaker 3: on like how far I've come to get to this point,

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Speaker 3: and I'm just I'm so thankful for the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: That is so cool. Man, I'm so happy for you.

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Speaker 1: Run out of time.

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Speaker 2: But I'd be remiss if I don't ask you about

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Speaker 2: the name brother man.

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul. How old is it? Ask you?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm like, man, he probably gets this all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's probably so annoyed because there is another famous Chris Paul,

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Speaker 2: and the ambient has been playing a long time, dang

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Speaker 2: near your whole life, chrisau NBA does that bother you?

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Speaker 2: The parallels between the days, and people be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Chris Paul, what like that bother?

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Speaker 4: You know, I can't say that about me.

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Speaker 3: I can't really, if anything, It's really like, it's more cool,

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Speaker 3: it's cool, if anything, because I mean, especially now that

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Speaker 3: I'm in the NFL, so like there's an NFL Chris

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Speaker 3: Paul as well, I want to meet the guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why why we haven't set set that up.

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Speaker 3: You know, he almost came to the Wizards, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that would have been the perfect, the perfect opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, commanders, come.

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Speaker 2: On, Commanders, come on, and Chris Paul, if you're watching this,

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Speaker 2: we got it.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool.

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Speaker 2: And Chris Paul seems like another guy that is into

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Speaker 2: a lot of different things. So I'm sure you guys

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Speaker 2: have a lot to talk about. We're gonna let you go.

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Speaker 2: I need one last thing from you, my brother. I

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Speaker 2: need you to look into that ISO camera right there,

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Speaker 2: and I need you to tell the commander's family who

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Speaker 2: is the NFL Chris.

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Speaker 3: Paul Man the NFL Chris Paul is you know if

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Speaker 3: I do say so myself, a great young man, a

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Speaker 3: very very multi dimensional young man. I'm a young man

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Speaker 3: that is just grateful to the Commander's fan base and

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Speaker 3: and grateful for this opportunity that I get to do

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Speaker 3: what I love, and a young man that intends on

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Speaker 3: using this platform that he's gracefully been given to make

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Speaker 3: a change.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, Chris Paul.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's been such a pleasure talk tell we should

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Speaker 2: talk to you for another thirty minutes. Man, I appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time so much. Command this family. This is Chris Paul.

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Speaker 2: This is the next Man Up Podcast. Chris Paul, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for the hand and we're gonna make

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Speaker 2: sure we get you that meeting with the end of

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Speaker 2: thea Let's do it, Fall do it?

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Speaker 1: What's good?

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Speaker 2: Commander's Family Love Podcast when we have a lot more

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Speaker 2: for you on the Commander's Podcast network.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: We have the Command Center podcast with Logan Paulson, Fred

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Speaker 2: Spoot and Santana Mass.

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Speaker 1: It's like hanging out with.

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Speaker 2: Your best friends but you're doing nothing but talking about

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Speaker 2: Commander's Football. Then you have the Players Club with Legends

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Speaker 2: London and Santana Moss sitting with your favorite Commander's players

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Speaker 2: talking football and only the way that those who played

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Speaker 2: the game can. Then we have the Get Loud Podcast

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Speaker 2: with Mike Jenkins and Fred Smooth and they do what

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Speaker 2: they do best, get loud and have a ton of fun.

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Speaker 2: The show definitely gets off the rails, but in a

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Speaker 2: very great rate. You don't want to miss that. And

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Speaker 2: then of course the net expanded podcast. We will be

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Speaker 2: back every Tuesday talking to your favorite Commander's player and

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Speaker 2: getting to know demand behind the helmet. All that and

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Speaker 2: more can be found on the Commander's Podcast Network or

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